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Jewish members of Congress all say Israel has a right to exist– but 10-20% of Jews aren’t so sure

Last week all 25 Jewish congresspeople condemned Amnesty International's Paul O'Brien for questioning Jewish support for Israel. But they and O'Brien have raised a key issue. Just how many American Jews oppose the idea of a Jewish state?

Last week all 25 Jewish congresspeople took the highly unusual step of signing a statement condemning Paul O’Brien, director of the U.S. branch of Amnesty International, for remarks opposing Israel’s definition as “a state for the Jewish people.” O’Brien said his “gut” tells him that polls that show overwhelming Jewish support for Israel are misleading: American Jews don’t want a state so much as “a sanctuary that is a safe and sustainable place that the Jews, the Jewish people can call home.”

The Congresspeople responded angrily: “Mr. O’Brien’s patronizing attempt to speak on behalf of the American Jewish community is alarming and deeply offensive.” Antisemitic, too: O’Brien has added “his name to the list of those who, across centuries, have tried to deny and usurp the Jewish people’s independent agency.”

The Congress members were acting strategically: trying to discredit the recent Amnesty report that Israel practices “apartheid.” They said the report delegitimizes the “Jewish people’s right to self-determination.”

But they and O’Brien have raised a key issue. Just how many American Jews oppose the idea of a Jewish state?

The simple answer is between 10 and 20 percent. According to a survey of Jewish voters conducted by the Jewish Electoral Institute last summer, 9 percent of respondents said that “Israel does not have a right to exist” — presumably as a Jewish state.

And 20 percent of Jews in that survey favor an outcome that would end Israel’s character as a Jewish state:

Establishing one state that is neither Jewish nor Palestinian, and includes Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza under a single government elected by Israelis and Palestinians

These attitudes are generational. One out of five Jews under 40 say Israel doesn’t have a right to exist. Above age 64, the number was 3 percent or less.

The survey supports O’Brien’s “gut” inasmuch as it found that 38 percent of Jews said they did not feel “emotionally attached” to Israel (62 percent do). Other polls have shown growing “alienation” from Israel.

Let me add my gut sense: Older Jews overwhelmingly support Israel, and young Jews are alienated by Israel and are even anti-Zionist, but many are afraid to come out because it really is a heresy to oppose Israel’s existence. Almost every mainline Jewish organization and religious body supports Israel. Zionism is the official position of the community and its donor/board class– and duly reflected by the 25 Jewish members of Congress.

In mainstream Jewish life, it is still the case that To be Jewish means To be a Zionist. Even liberal older Jews reflect the late Leonard Fein’s view that the creation of Israel was the greatest Jewish achievement of the 20th century. While propagandists for Israel say that 97 percent of Jews support Israel– and only a fringe of crazies aren’t for Israel.

These claims of Jewish unanimity are battered by trends. Jewish Voice for Peace is now 25 years old, proudly anti-Zionist, and has the largest number of chapters of any Jewish social justice organization in the US and is said to have the biggest social media reach of any US-based Jewish organization. As Jeffrey Goldberg said ten years or so ago, Israel’s refusal to end its occupation means that anti-Zionists are going to have the wind at their back. And we have. Israel’s declaration in 2018 that it is the Nation State of the Jewish people, in which Arabs have lesser land and language rights, only cemented this process of alienation– and triggered the Human Rights Watch report of last year saying Israel practices apartheid.

In the last year two or so two former liberal Zionist intellectuals with stature, Peter Beinart and Ian Lustick, have both thrown in the towel on the Jewish state and called for democracy in Israel and Palestine: it should be a state of all its citizens. That’s the 20 percent group in the survey above.

Among young Jews it is a minority position to be pro-Israel (as Israel advocates often bewail), and the idea of a Jewish state seems very unpopular in my encounters.

It is still not easy to be anti-Zionist. There are strong community norms at work. The Jewish community has maintained its coherence as a minority in western countries over many centuries by enforcing unspoken rules on conduct with respect to the wider society, which cannot be fully trusted (the goyim means the nations, and the word is full of contempt). The long shadow of the Holocaust and Israel’s “existential” battles with Arabs reinforced these norms of not criticizing Israel publicly. Add to that the religious idea that Jews in Israel are higher than Jews in the western world, and at far greater risk too– so keep your mouth shut. Henry Siegman, the former head of the American Jewish Congress, has said that members of his own family didn’t talk to him after he began criticizing Israel. Richard Goldstone got disinvited to his grandson’s bar mitzvah in South Africa after he came out with the UN Human Rights Council report accusing Israel of war crimes in 2009.

When I became an anti-Zionist, I was told I was antisemitic, helping Israel’s enemies, and betraying my community. Those charges are getting stale but they have not lost their sting.

People still lose their jobs for questioning Israel’s right to exist. Jessie Sander, a 26-year-old teacher, was allegedly fired from a New York Reform temple job last year because during the Gaza onslaught of May 2021 she had called on American Jews to emulate her “anti-Zionist journey”– and recognize that “American Jewish support for israel has enabled the genocide in Palestine.”

The apartheid charge and the natural response to it –BDS — are still anathematized in the Jewish community, including by the liberal Zionist group J Street. And no surprise, Congress gets into the act when it can, too.

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So Israel was okay when Pegasus spyware was used to spy on US officials, but blocked Ukraine when it wanted to use it to get information on Russia.

I would say I am not surprised, but American leaders seems unable to comprehend just how dishonest and devious Israel is, as we keep sending billions of dollars to this parasitic nation.

“Israel blocked Ukraine from buying Pegasus spyware, fearing Russia’s angerRevelation of denial offers new insight into the way Israel’s relationship with Moscow has undermined Ukrainian objectives

Israel blocked Ukraine from buying NSO Group’s Pegasus spyware for fear that Russian officials would be angered by the sale of the sophisticated hacking tool to a regional foe, according to people familiar with the matter.
The revelation, following a joint investigation by the Guardian and Washington Post, offers new insight into the way Israel’s relationship with Russia has at times undermined Ukraine’s offensive capabilities – and contradicted US priorities.

The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has been critical of Israel’s stance since Russia launched its full and bloody invasion of Ukraine on 24 February, saying in a recent address before members of Israel’s Knesset that Israel would have to “give answers” on why it had not given weapons to Ukraine or applied sanctions on Russians.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/23/israel-ukraine-pegasus-spyware-russia

I wonder if Zelensky realizes his decision to leave the committee that overlooks Palestinian concerns, was worth it now. Israel has let Ukraine down, to be nice to Russia.

“People still lose their jobs for questioning Israel’s right to exist.”

We can have a better discussion about Israels ‘right to exist’: every single right you have comes with responsibilities and restrictions. Free speech? Sure, but you don’t have the right to lie about the stocks you’re selling, there are libel laws, community standards ( https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/901/community-standards ), you can’t use racial epithets, you don’t have the right to yell ‘fire!’ in a crowded theater.

Does Israel have a ‘right to exist’? If it does, that right has to come with responsibilities and restrictions, just like every other right. And what are they?

https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-glasgow-university-smeared-its-own-journal-anti-semitic/35036
“How Glasgow university smeared its own journal as anti-Semitic”
David Miller The Electronic Intifada 22 March 2022
“Glasgow university censored a paper examining the pro-Israel lobby.”
EXCERPT:
“A Scottish university refused to properly assess pro-Israel complaints about a peer-reviewed article in one of its journals.
“Instead of sending the complaints to the author of the paper for further peer review, the university asked a staff member ‘close to the [subject] area’ to give an informal view.
“University documents released under freedom of information rules show it was agreed that the paper – which discussed the Israel lobby in Britain – should also be sent for external review, but this seems not to have been done.
“But even this was only agreed after the university had already decided on its response – to endorse the baseless smears of the complainants.
“The university is still refusing to reveal who complained about the paper. But extremist anti-Palestinian blogger David Collier has been public about his involvement.
“The original article by Jane Jackman – published by eSharp, a University of Glasgow journal, in 2017 – examined the propaganda activities of the Israel lobby in the UK.
“After complaints by pro-Israel activists in 2020, the university last year appended a statement to the article alleging it contained problematic features, including the idea that it promotes ‘an unfounded anti-Semitic theory regarding the state of Israel.’
“After a high profile open letter to the university signed by 500 prominent academics including the linguist & political analyst Noam Chomsky, the university removed the reference to anti-Semitism.
“But it refused to remove the baseless claim that the paper had used a ‘biased selection of sources,’ claiming that the article promoted ‘what some would regard as an unfounded theory.’ This wording obviously still implies that the article is anti-Semitic….”

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‘Israel has a right to exist’ … does it, though? Does – any – nation have a fundamental entitlement to exist? Sure, nations have emerged from conflict or merger or 18th & 19th Century colonial diplomacy, but most evolved over time to formalize geographical areas of cultural or linguistic groups … what’s more, the great majority of modern countries recognize their neighbours’ borders and maintain standards of civility and law necessary for acceptance in the international community – they earn recognition and respect and – welcome – within the community of nations …

On what basis does Israel claim entitlement to dispossess an existing indigenous Arab population and occupy their farms and villages? Don’t even start with ‘God said–’ … That is simply a non-starter … the Balfour Declaration? Alright, the letter does permit Jewish immigration into Palestine to establish a ‘national home’, but that’s only half the story; Balfour’s missive specifies that ‘it be clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.’ Does Israel have the right to point at the declaration’s first phrase but ignore the second? In a word, no.

My point is not to de-legitimize Israel, only rescue it from the embrace of deluded entitlement … the world is better off with an Israel that rejects narcissistic mythology and instead behaves with the civility expected in a modern nation, declaring and respecting borders, encouraging equality among every resident within it and abiding by international standards of trade and diplomacy …

Israel has no special dispensation or ‘right’ to exist outside, and apart from, the other nations on Earth … that’s just a stone age echo …

I don’t think Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state, not a “state of all its citizens” — or rather, as a state of all the people under its power. And I am well over 65.
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