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After an anti-Zionist student group disrupted a panel she was on last Thursday, Batya Ungar-Sargon, the opinion editor of the Forward, said the students protested the event because the three panelists were Jewish and that intellectuals who stood idly by or cheered on the demonstrators bear responsibility for the spike in anti-semitism and even synagogue murders.

Ungar-Sargon also made these claims: 97 percent of Jews are Zionists; anti-Zionists in the Jewish community are as anomalous as Trump supporters who are black; she is the “number one publisher of Palestinian voices in America”; she has “spent my entire career embedded in the Palestinian community;” and she has done more than anyone else you will meet to get Israelis to vote for Palestinian politicians.

Some who attended the event or protested it have disputed Ungar-Sargon’s version of events.

The panel took place at Bard College in the Hudson Valley on October 10 in a conference on racism and anti-semitism. Titled “Who Needs Anti-Semitism?” the panel featured Ruth Wisse, the Harvard Yiddishist; Shany Mor, a Bard teacher who formerly served as director of foreign policy at the Israeli National Security Council, an official body; and Ungar-Sargon.

The Students for Justice in Palestine chapter at the school disrupted the event for several minutes chiefly because Ruth Wisse has made anti-Palestinian statements.

The next day Ungar-Sargon was on a second panel titled, “Racism and Zionism: Black and Jewish Relations.” She gave a short speech denouncing the earlier protest as anti-semitic and the conference-goers as handmaidens of anti-Semitism, and then walked out.

Ungar-Sargon said in her speech (and a subsequent op-ed) that she told the protesters they had chosen the wrong panel to protest, they should save it for the Zionism panel.

Their response was that the discourse of anti-semitism is inherently bound up in the Israel question. You know who thinks that? David Duke thinks that. David Duke thinks that talking about antisemitism hurts Palestinians. David Duke thinks that the actions of one Jew are the responsibility of another Jew. Thus I, the number one publisher of Palestinian voices in America– The Forward, a Jewish newspaper where I am the opinion editor, publishes more op-eds by Palestinians than the New York Times, the Nation and the Washington Post combined– I, who have spent my entire career embedded in the Palestinian community, who have convinced more Israelis to vote for the Joint Arab List than you will meet in your life– I am worthy of protesting when I try to talk, not about Israel, but about antisemitism… It is because I am a Jew.

She went on to blame her fellow conference-members for standing idly by as anti-Semitism ravages the Jewish community.

I’m bothered by the cowardice of my fellow conference goers…. None of you could find the guts to stand up and call out a blatantly racist act. [You say] “Oh they were protesting Israel, they were protesting Zionists.” 97 percent of Jews worldwide are Zionists. 97 percent!…. Why do think that is? There are the same number of antizionist Jews as there are black women who voted for Trump. Some of the Jews here will reassure you that it is fine. Would you allow Diamond and Silk [black women who are Fox News hosts] to tell you what’s racist? You certainly should not. I’m horrified by your cowardice…. I feel shut down. What have you done to help Jews as antisemitism as spiked across the nation.. as Jews have been murdered at their place of worship, and orthodox Jews beaten to a pulp day after day in Brooklyn? You can say, “I sat idly by as Jews were protested for trying to talking about antisemitism. I allowed a Jewish woman to be held accountable for the actions of a country half way around the world where she can’t even vote, because of her ethnicity. I egged that protest on, I applauded it, then I went to a party.”

Adam Shatz of the London Review of Books was a speaker at the conference. He repudiated Ungar-Sargon’s claims on twitter:

I was there, and what provoked the protest wasn’t the fact that the discussion was about anti-Semitism, but that the speaker was Ruth Wisse, a notorious anti-Arab racist and unconditional defender of Israel and its occupation. The notion that this woman from the Forward was protested because she’s Jewish is preposterous. A great number of speakers were Jews who are deeply aware of anti-Semitism – Etienne Balibar, Marc Weitzmann and others. None were protested because they were Jewish, or speaking about anti-Semitism. I would say at least a plurality of the protestors were young Jewish students. It’s also remarkable how right-wingers and defenders of Israel who complain about the ‘victimology’ of Arabs and black people slide so easily into claims of victimhood themselves.

A Bard student who is a member of SJP and tweets under the handles Akiva Hirsch and Yung Perchik was one of the demonstrators. He also dismisses Ungar-Sargon’s claims:

First, you made a comment about the fact that we were protesting a panel that was about antisemitism, not Israel/Palestine. But Israel/Palestine was one of the things Wisse focussed on in her speech, the other being Black Americans.

Now while the members of Bard’s SJP, myself included, are not fortune tellers, based on the horrifically racist things Wisse has said in the past, we had a feeling that was how her speech was going to go. That’s a big part of why we decided to protest.

Another big part of why we decided to protest is you. You have made a name for yourself by silencing Black Jews, and we don’t take kindly to that.

The other reason is that Mor, the third person at this panel, was the director of foreign policy on the Israeli national security board. So because of that, the panel always had something to do with Israel….

As for your talk of feeling frightened by the conference’s other panelists approval of our protest imagine how frightened a Palestinian student would feel knowing that Wisse said “all Palestinian-Arabs do is breed, bleed, and advertise their misery”

And yet she still managed to make the cut to be invited to this conference. And if you want to talk about Jews being silenced and ignored, talk about the Ethiopian Jewish woman who was told by Wisse that Black Jews are treated just fine.

My last thought on the protest: as a White Jew, I will NEVER allow hateful bigots like Wisse to claim that they represent me, and I will do whatever I can to make sure that she and those who hold her same values don’t have a platform…

Last thing before I go to sleep: I derive no pleasure from protesting the only all-Jewish panel at the @Arendt_Center’s conference. But I can’t help the fact that they chose awful people for this panel, and no amount of being Jewish can fix someone’s awfulness.

Kenneth Stern formerly of the American Jewish Committee, now at Bard, was also at the conference and published a letter at the Forward disputing Ungar-Sargon’s op-ed’s claims.

I was in all the rooms she describes… At the Bard conference on Thursday, the students marched to the front and held signs. When one was asked to lower her sign so people could see, she did. When a couple of them interrupted the talk, security officers and deans were right there to ask them to leave, and they did without incident…

Ungar-Sargon was right to note that the panel the students chose to protest was all Jewish, but her leap to the conclusion that it was protested because it was all Jewish, or that perhaps there should have been some special dispensation from protest because it was all Jewish, is misplaced. It was exceptionally clear to me as an audience member that these students protested because they strongly disagreed with Wisse’s views. not because of her Jewishness….

Ungar-Sargon wrote that Wisse’s talk was only about anti-Semitism, not Israel. But Wisse did speak about Israel, and of course she has written about it extensively. Ungar-Sargon’s assertion that bringing Israel into a discussion of anti-Semitism is inherently racist is mind-boggling. I speak regularly to Jewish audiences and on college campuses about anti-Semitism, and generally say little about Israel up front, but Israel is the topic audience members — frequently from the right, politically — most often focus on in the question-and-answer period.

Rebecca Vilkomerson of Jewish Voice for Peace denounced the claim by Ungar-Sargon that anti-Zionist criticism of Israel is part and parcel of attacks on synagogues. No progressive should believe this, she said, and “to the extent they do they shouldn’t call themselves progressives AND that is the unfortunate success of repeating a lie so many times it feels true.”

Vilkomerson said the claim is being advanced by Bari Weiss of the New York Times, too.

This has gotta stop. It is dangerous. It cheapens & destroys any collective understanding of what antisemitism is, ignores and discounts racism and Islamophobia, and tries to undermine any proper attention to Palestinian human rights and Israeli culpability for violating them

MJ Rosenberg describes Ungar-Sargon’s version of the event as “lies” of an ideological character: “The worst thing about @bungarsargon’s lies about what happened at #Bard is that it detracts from the violent #antisemitism emanating from the right to focus on peaceful protest by #progressive Jewish students against the #occupation and its defenders.”

Dani Dayan, the Israeli consul general in New York, cheered Ungar-Sargon on.

“Batya and I disagree on many issues. But when a Jew is attacked by antisemites and responds this way – I stand up and applaud with admiration.”

Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL also applauds.

Bravo @bungarsargon for sharing how she encountered ugly #antiSemitism at @BardCollege — at a panel on anti-Semitism no less. It’s a case study on the very real issues facing Jewish students on college campuses today and shows how hate manifests on the far Left.

Mairav Zonszein writes:

If this is how the @ADL does its research into what constitutes an anti-Semitic incidents, it calls into question everything they do.

I believe Ungar-Sargon’s claims are tactical: she is alarmed at the growing support in progressive circles for anti-Zionism and wants to stem the tide. To do so, she claims that anti-Zionism is a self-hating 3 percent fringe in the Jewish community, like black Trump supporters. This is a wobbly number: Ungar-Sargon herself said last November that 95 percent of Jews are Zionists; now she says 97 percent.

In fact, a growing number of vocal, younger Jews is openly questioning the need for “the Jewish state” and saying the Zionist ideology is racist. Jewish Voice for Peace is a burgeoning justice group, and it is anti-Zionist. The young Jewish group IfNotNow is also burgeoning, and includes some anti-Zionists.

These progressives obviously have traction inside American politics; 56 percent of Democrats say they would support sanctions against Israel over its settlement project. Two supporters of boycotting Israel are now in Congress, and party leaders have been fighting this trend vociferously.

It is also true, as Michael Koplow, a liberal Zionist says, that the Jewish community is largely Zionist, and the establishment organizations are committed to that ideology: “[E]very major American Jewish organization of any significance supports Israel not only in practice but specifically as a Jewish state and… over 90% of American Jews say they have favorable feelings toward Israel.”

Thanks to Dave Reed, James North, Scott Roth, and Donald Johnson.

Correction: This post initially stated that Kenneth Stern’s letter was written by Natasha Roth. Apologies to both writers!

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  1. Donald on October 14, 2019, 10:54 am

    “ Natasha Roth formerly of 972 was also at the conference and published a letter at the Forward disputing Ungar-Sargon’s op-ed’s claims.”

    This is wrong. The letter is by Kenneth Stern. What makes that interesting is that he is a Zionist and not allied with the students, but is evidently an honest man.

    • philweiss on October 14, 2019, 11:18 am

      Thanks for that note. I have corrected the piece.

      • Donald on October 14, 2019, 12:15 pm

        Bari Weiss endorsed the Batya piece on her twitter thread.

        I think the Kenneth Stern letter will probably keep this from becoming a NYT endorsed example of those awful antisemites on college campuses. You have a guy who is Zionist , opposed to BDS and very concerned about antisemitism and he contradicts Batya on virtually everything she said.

    • ErikEast on October 14, 2019, 3:41 pm

      Ungar-Sargon’s op-ed effectively slandered him, the Conference he helped organise and fellow panellists. Therefore, his rebuttal is not that surprising despite his Zionist credentials. What is vulgar is Ungar-Sargon’s misuse of the antisemitism charge.

  2. Stephen Shenfield on October 14, 2019, 11:04 am

    The Zionists feel such a desperate need for anti-Semitism, and specifically of the left-wing variety, that they will go to any lengths to fake it.

    • Keith on October 14, 2019, 4:13 pm

      STEPHEN SHENFIELD- “The Zionists feel such a desperate need for anti-Semitism, and specifically of the left-wing variety, that they will go to any lengths to fake it.”

      Charges of anti-Semitism have been weaponized. Batya Ungar-Sargon is a professional Jew (not to be confused with a Jewish professional) and a professional exploiter of victimhood, real or imagined. A panel on anti-Semitism? I have yet to see any evidence that anti-Semitism is a significant problem in the US. As for Europe, it was Zionist Jews like Victoria Nuland who helped to bring neo-Nazis to power in the Ukraine. When is Batya Ungar-Sargon going to protest this? Did the panel discuss this? Zionists have no problem working with Nazis and neo-Nazis when it serves their purpose.

      • wondering jew on October 14, 2019, 6:12 pm

        To Jews who go to synagogues and attend Jewish Centers, violent murderous antisemitism is a significant problem. I suppose you would call this paranoia. I would not. Jewish parents who take their kids to shul on Shabbos are very conscious of Pittsburgh and murderous right wing nuts. Turns out that the threat from Muslims that followed 9/11 never materialized against synagogues in America in a major way, but the right wing nuts in America have now changed the situation for American Jews. Jews who never find their way to a synagogue unless there’s a journalistic story there, then maybe they are not concerned, but if they have kids and go to shul because it’s shabbos, you better believe that Jewish parents are concerned.

      • oldgeezer on October 14, 2019, 9:49 pm

        @wondering jew/yonah

        No it’s not paranoia. Perhaps someone might say it’s overblown and you have a better chance of x,y,z in the mold of getting hit by a bus. Not an argument I care to make and have no data. The reason to fear is real and events prove that.

        Now you have to reconcile that with Israel supporting the right wing both in terms of countries, groups and individuals.

        Square the circle that has Israel supporting and aiding those who endanger Jewish people the most and tell me it’s good for Jewish people.

      • Mooser on October 15, 2019, 12:46 pm

        “To Jews who go to synagogues and attend Jewish Centers, violent murderous antisemitism is a significant problem.”

        Yeah, that left-wing antisemitism is sure oppressive and murderous, ain’t it?

      • Keith on October 15, 2019, 3:59 pm

        WONDERING JEW- “I suppose you would call this paranoia.”

        Yes I would. Zionist propaganda has intentionally frightened Jews into believing that they are on the cusp of a massive pogrom even though there is no evidence that Ashkenazi Jews are less safe than non-Jewish whites and infinitely safer than Blacks. I would love to see data on Jews broken out so that we could put this matter to rest, but that will never happen. The ADL may do some tracking but will never release data which goes against their victimhood meme. Some relevant comparative data below.

        “Lethal attacks on U.S. Jews in their homeland have been very rare, with Saturday’s mass shooting in Pittsburgh more than doubling the total number of fatalities”https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-from-lynchings-to-mass-shootings-the-history-of-deadly-attacks-on-jews-in-america-1.6601089

        “Since 2014, there have been 334 mass shootings per year, on average, in the US. (The Gun Violence Archive defines a mass shooting event as one in which at least four people were killed or injured.) With so many mass shootings every year, the probability is high that on any given day there is more than one incident.” (Amanda Shendruk) https://qz.com/1681373/multiple-mass-shootings-in-24-hours-is-nothing-new-in-the-us/

        “During 2015–2016, the age-adjusted homicide rate for the total population increased from 5.7 to 6.2 per 100,000 standard population (an 8.8% increase). The rate increased from 2.6 to 2.9 (11.5%) for non-Hispanic whites, from 20.9 to 22.8 (9.1%) for non-Hispanic blacks, and from 4.9 to 5.3 (8.2%) for Hispanics. In both years, the homicide rate for non-Hispanic blacks was approximately eight times the rate for non-Hispanic whites and four times the rate for Hispanics.” https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6715a8.htm

        There have been 1,300 school shooting incidents since 1970.
        2018 had the greatest number of incidents since 1970, with 82 recorded incidents. The next highest year was 2006 with 59 incidents.
        2018 was the highest year for the number of victims killed, including the shooter, with 51 killed.
        https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/safety/k-12-school-shooting-statistics-everyone-should-know/

      • wondering jew on October 15, 2019, 6:17 pm

        Keith- how many jews would have to be killed in north american synagogues in the next 36 months to justify real fear rather than paranoia? Give me a number, so I understand the difference between reasonable fear and unreasonable fear? by the way if someone shoots up a mosque in new zealand and a doorway of a synagogue in the former east germany, are these incidents allowable to help justify fear or must it be always focused on jews at prayer rather than muslims at prayer and must it only be in the united states? If a synagogue hires a security guard, is that paranoia or being real? and if someone takes note of the presence of the security guard is that natural or paranoia? How many Americans celebrated at the news of the pittsburgh shooting, 10s of thousands or 100’s of thousands?

      • James North on October 15, 2019, 8:15 pm

        I agree with Yonah. Until Pittsburgh, maybe fear at synagogues would have been unreasonable, but no longer. I don’t go to them (or any other houses of worship) often, but the next time I visit one there will certainly be some fear in the back of my mind. I would have the same feeling at a mosque. I would not feel the same way inside a church.

      • jrg on October 15, 2019, 6:21 pm

        Keith: “Charges of anti-Semitism have been weaponized.” Why should you object to that, Keith? Anti-Semitism was weaponized over a century and a quarter ago, something with which you evidently have no problem. The explanation for this anomaly appears in your very next sentence:
        “Batya Ungar-Sargon is a professional Jew…” Any person who uses or thinks it’s OK for someone else to use a phrase like “professional Jew” is by definition an anit-Semite. “I have yet to see any evidence that anti-Semitism is a significant problem in the US…” Gee, what trees?, asks Johnny Appleseed. Ever hear of a city called Pittsburgh, Keith? How about San Diego? Ever hear of a creep in Ohio named James Reardon? No doubt, you’ll try to wave all that away as somehow insignificant while secretly cheering on such things. You no doubt find anti-Semitic events exhilirating while outwardly belittling them. This manifests itself in your idiotic claim that “Zionist Jews like Victoria Nuland….helped to bring neo-Nazis to power in the Ukraine…” That was really a way to justify your statement that “Zionists have no problem working with Nazis and neo-Nazis when it serves their purpose.” Your real purpose here is to equate Jews with Nazis so we can conclude that the Holocaust wasn’t such a big deal after all.

        As eljay as repeatedly refrained: You, sir, are a hateful and immoral hypocrite, and a malicious snake to boot. Mondoweiss ought to exclude you from it site. Here are a couple of alternative ones that you should find more to your taste:

        http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

        https://stormfront.org/

      • Keith on October 15, 2019, 9:09 pm

        JRG- “You, sir, are a hateful and immoral hypocrite, and a malicious snake to boot. Mondoweiss ought to exclude you from it site. “

        And you are an anti-Gentile Zionist attack dog. And you have no sense of shame in being part of a group that knowingly helped known neo-Nazis to power in the Ukraine and then complain about a rise in anti-Semitism in Eastern Europe. Why am I the one on Mondoweiss to complain about US support for Svaboda and Pravy Sektor while you complain about me complaining? Thanks but no thanks for the links to a couple of your favorite websites. Nice to see where Zionists spend their free time.

      • Keith on October 15, 2019, 9:23 pm

        JAMES NORTH- “I agree with Yonah. Until Pittsburgh, maybe fear at synagogues would have been unreasonable, but no longer.”

        Why am I not surprised? The belief in Jewish peoplehood and of serious ongoing anti-Semitism runs strong and deep on Mondoweiss. As such, I am routinely pilloried in the comments section (if I pass moderation) for questioning the notion that Jews are relatively unsafe compared to Gentiles. Show me the numbers to support this belief in eternal anti-Semitism and I will apologize. Fair enough?

      • echinococcus on October 15, 2019, 9:47 pm

        Pishtush, North.

        Religion is always dangerous, I keep saying but nobody listens. Churches? Let’s have a quick look:

        *h_tt_ps://*www.thedailybeast.*com/police-in-pelham-new-hampshire-respond-to-shooting-at-church-shooter-in-custody

        *h_tt_p_s://*en.wikipedia.*org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting

        h|t|t|p|s://*www.tennessean.*com/story/news/2019/09/03/emanuel-samson-antioch-church-shooter-sentenced-additional-charges/2197239001/

        h(t(t)p)s)://*www.cnn.com*/2017/11/06/us/texas-church-shooting/index.html

        If you now want links about Buddhist temples, there is a good number of those, too.

        Let’s not be ridiculous, please.

        Note: the links won’t work as is, you gotta clean them first.

      • Keith on October 15, 2019, 10:02 pm

        WONDERING JEW- “Give me a number, so I understand the difference between reasonable fear and unreasonable fear?”

        How many non-Jewish children would have to be killed at school in the next 36 months before you would feel that Gentiles were justified in mass home schooling? The question is one of relative safety. Jews remain relatively safe compared to non-Jews. Re-read my numbers. Gun violence has become prevalent in the US, with an average of 334 annual mass shootings since 2014. Apparently, prior to Pittsburgh, Jews were relatively untouched by this. The fact that this may no longer be true (Pittsburgh was an anomaly) does not indicate that we are in the midst of an anti-Semitic pogrom. Would you feel safe at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas? Attending class at Sandy Hook?

        WONDERING JEW- “How many Americans celebrated at the news of the pittsburgh shooting, 10s of thousands or 100’s of thousands?”

        Interesting comment, Yonah. I think that it says volumes about you.

      • Keith on October 16, 2019, 10:51 am

        JAMES NORTH- “Until Pittsburgh, maybe fear at synagogues would have been unreasonable, but no longer.”

        Some additional thoughts. Due to neoliberal globalization and other factors, our society has entered a period of social disintegration. Over 20 years ago the military predicted that the increasing divide between the “haves” and the “have nots” would lead to social turbulence and violence. And it has. The police have been transformed into paramilitary forces of occupation. The military is making plans for potential urban warfare in US cities (no joke). Increasing violence and mass shootings (bombings?) will likely affect us all. The Pittsburgh synagogue was selected because of its publicized role regarding refugees, a situation which didn’t exist 20 years ago but is increasing. To label the consequences of neoliberal globalization and environmental catastrophe as manifestations of anti-Semitism is a gross misunderstanding of the forces causing this social breakdown. Currently, people of color are bearing the brunt of the violence, police shooting of Blacks off the charts. The class war is turning violent and those at the bottom are in dire peril. In the long run (20 years?) we all are.

      • Donald on October 16, 2019, 11:42 am

        ” I don’t go to them (or any other houses of worship) often, but the next time I visit one there will certainly be some fear in the back of my mind.”

        I went to a local temple several months ago–there was an open to the community meeting with speakers about the immigrant issue. And I did think somewhat idly about which way to run (no Walter Mittyesque fantasies about charging the gunman) if an antisemitic lunatic walked in. Anti-immigration sentiment along with antisemitism inspired the Pittsburgh shooter.

        I don’t know what the statistics are regarding the actual level of danger for temples vs, say, black churches. But in the Trump era there seem to be more of these white nationalist types being more open about their hatreds and a few of our mass shootings are inspired by them. The main problem is that we are a country with daily mass shootings.

      • Mooser on October 16, 2019, 12:17 pm

        Dear “jrg”,
        Around here we follow the first rule of Mondo commenting very strictly! And that rule is :
        NOBODY can say anything worse about Jews that is worse than what Jews say about anybody else.

        Maybe you should try staying within those limits.

      • Mooser on October 16, 2019, 12:33 pm

        “How many Americans celebrated at the news of the pittsburgh shooting, 10s of thousands or 100’s of thousands?” “wj”, who else?

        Well, “Yonah”, I Googled the phrase “How many Americans celebrated at the news of the pittsburgh shooting”.

        Mostly I got stuff like this: Muslims Raise $180K For Pittsburgh Synagogue Victims …

      • Mooser on October 16, 2019, 12:42 pm

        “actual level of danger for temples vs, say, black churches”

        Not even close. Generally you’re much safer in Temple. Of course, if your Temple devotes itself to HIAS … but that’s up to each Temple. If you want to be all-right, go Right.

      • Mooser on October 16, 2019, 12:46 pm

        “Note: the links won’t work as is,”

        Gee, funny, isn’t it? The links to “Stormfront” and “Vanguard” came right through Askimet, no problems at all.

      • eljay on October 16, 2019, 2:16 pm

        || Mooser: … Well, “Yonah”, I Googled the phrase “How many Americans celebrated at the news of the pittsburgh shooting”.

        Mostly I got stuff like this: Muslims Raise $180K For Pittsburgh Synagogue Victims … ||

        There’s nothing worse than Muslims who are so anti-Semitic they don’t even know how to be properly anti-Semitic!

      • wondering jew on October 16, 2019, 3:42 pm

        There was a Jew murdered in Poway California synagogue, in a synagogue that had zero HIAS history as far as I can tell. How many people gathered in Charlottesville? And our president says there are good people on both sides. there are many people who are filled with hatred in this country. and the internet besides encouraging political independence (a good thing) encourages political nuttiness (a bad thing).

      • eljay on October 16, 2019, 4:37 pm

        || wondering jew: There was a Jew murdered in Poway California synagogue …

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-neo-nazi-support-american-public-charlottesville-white-supremacists-kkk-far-right-poll-a7907091.html ||

        … Heather Heyer … killed after a car ploughed into a crowd of anti-fascist protesters …

        In February, an Indian-born engineer was shot dead in a Kansas bar, with witnesses telling reporters the gunman shouted “go back to your country” before opening fire.

        In May, Jeremy Joseph Christian spewed anti-Muslim “hate speech” to a young woman wearing a hijab on a train and her friend. After other passengers intervened, he pulled out a knife and slashed their throats, with two people left killed and a third seriously injured. …

        Looks like both Jews and non-Jews need protection and justice. Neither requires a supremacist state of any kind.

      • Mooser on October 16, 2019, 6:22 pm

        “And our president says there are good people on both sides”

        Exactly, “Yonah”. You’ve got to take the bad with the good. Don’t you think the Jerusalem Embassy, and US cover for Israel’s actions, and all the US money, is worth a little tsuris back here in the US? Can’t you embrace the Jewish coalition with the right which has brought so much to Israel? Remember, ‘as goes the Right, so goes the all-rightnik“.

      • echinococcus on October 17, 2019, 1:59 am

        “Gee, funny, isn’t it?”

        It’s even funnier than that, Mooser.

        Those links were not to any Stroptront or Stuermer, just to some local paper etc.
        The mention of your obsessive phobias was only a gratuitous propaganda attempt at creating the impression of some association with them. Congratulations.

      • Mooser on October 18, 2019, 12:57 pm

        “Those links were not…”

        Have you tried those links? They are at the bottom of “jrg’s” 6:21pm comment, above.

    • JWalters on October 14, 2019, 7:18 pm

      Batya uses the standard Zionist tactics of (1) dodge the issues being raised, and (2) brazenly lie.

      Batya should rename her magazine the Backward, because she wants to take humanity backward 25 centuries, to re-create the glorious Jewish invasion and slaughter described in her holy book.

      If the “Zionist project” were not being bankrolled by an ocean of war profiteers’ money it would be an absurd, fake fantasy.

    • Misterioso on October 15, 2019, 8:55 am

      Zionists had an easy ride for decades. Most Americans sympathized with “Israel” and viewed it as a gallant little resurrected “Jewish state” in the “Holy Land” fending off hordes of murderous Arabs. It was America’s sacred duty to support it financially and protect it in the geopolitical arena. Well, the ugly truth is now on the table. America and the world increasingly see “Israel” for the fascistic, racist, expansionist, brutal ethnic-cleanser of indigenous Palestinians it has always been and Zionists such as Batya Ungar-Sargon are in shock, desperately striking out when “Israel’ is criticized, spewing forth nonsense and obvious lies including bogus accusations of anti-Semitism. It’s only going to get worse for them and rightfully so.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on October 15, 2019, 9:53 am

        Reminds me of that expression “When all you’ve known is privilege, equality can seem like oppression”.

        Same for Zionists. They’ve pretty much always had things their way with the MSM. Now that the internet has allowed alternative views to be expressed, there is more of a level playing field. But that doesn’t feel like equality to them, it feels like good ol’ antisemitism. But then, pretty much everything feels like antisemitism to so many Zionists. Trouble is, that tactic really isnt’ working anymore.

      • echinococcus on October 15, 2019, 11:45 am

        “They’ve pretty much always had things their way with the MSM. Now that the internet has allowed alternative views to be expressed, there is more of a level playing field.”

        So why do I get the diametrically opposed impression? While the “MSM” (beats me why we don’t continue to call that “The Press”) is now wall-to-wall, monolithic in being for Empire, police state and Zionism, I can remember a time there was no such unanimity and some halfway decent journalism existed here and there.

        Corporate, colossal “MSM” (which includes the Godzillas of Internet search and traffic) versus marginal internet voices (most of them more scaredy-cat than what we used to have in some of the press) that reach no further than the choir does not look like a “level field”!

      • Keith on October 15, 2019, 5:44 pm

        ECHINOCOCCUS- “So why do I get the diametrically opposed impression?”

        Me too. There is a lot more to be said, however, I will only note that the internet has created the reality of an imperial virtual 5th column in countries targeted for destabilization. I doubt that all of those color revolutions would have been possible without the internet which the empire controls. Also, the internet has become so integral to economic activity that it can be compared to electronic oil. Finally, (I can’t seem to stop), social media has replaced religion as the opium of the people.

      • DaBakr on October 17, 2019, 7:05 pm

        @mdm

        What kind of idiot believes “zionists”, “….pretty much always had things their way….” “…with the msm..”?

        Your definition of “always” is either blind true believing mediocre minded thinking or just plain ignorant. Even the despised by both pro Palestine and pro Israel NYT can not be described as “always” giving zionists their way. And that’s not even mentioning the European, Russian, Arab nationalist, Chinese communist or South American msm.
        Try and be a little more precise of you want your anti zionism taken as anything except an excuse to hide your contempt for Jewish Nationalism and your support for Arab nationalism, to the exclusion of one yet not the other. Unless your notion of always is limited to 30-40 years and even then, the far left progressive msm turned against zionism if not after the 67 war then surely the second intifada.

  3. CigarGod on October 14, 2019, 12:03 pm

    I usually don’t comment on a persons looks, but I was immediately reminded of a brunette Ann Coulter.
    Does Ann have a sister?

    • Citizen on October 15, 2019, 12:41 pm

      I don’t see that at all.

    • DaBakr on October 17, 2019, 7:14 pm

      @cg

      Coulter is A) not Jewish, B) not as attractive physically and C)completely different from a political pundit standpoint but your level of disgust rings through loud and clear. Better to just say what you mean

  4. bcg on October 14, 2019, 2:00 pm

    From the Forward:

    https://forward.com/opinion/letters/433122/letter-to-the-editor-i-organized-the-bard-conference-and-batya-ungar/

    I Organized the Bard Conference, and Batya Ungar-Sargon Misrepresented What Happened….

    • RoHa on October 15, 2019, 3:13 am

      In that letter Berkowitz plainly calls this Ungar-Sargon a liar.

      ‘She said she “couldn’t proceed.” This is patently untrue. ‘

      ” To now find her accusing the conference of silencing her is deceptive and disingenuous. Her 30,000 Twitter followers have carried her untruthful account across the Internet …”

      And he offers proof of those charges.

      I would expect this would result in her dismissal from any journalistic position. Will my expectations be fulfilled?

  5. Marnie on October 15, 2019, 1:49 am

    Adam Shatz of the London Review of Books was a speaker at the conference. He repudiated Ungar-Sargon’s claims on twitter:

    “I was there, and what provoked the protest wasn’t the fact that the discussion was about anti-Semitism, but that the speaker was Ruth Wisse, a notorious anti-Arab racist and unconditional defender of Israel and its occupation. The notion that this woman from the Forward was protested because she’s Jewish is preposterous. A great number of speakers were Jews who are deeply aware of anti-Semitism – Etienne Balibar, Marc Weitzmann and others. None were protested because they were Jewish, or speaking about anti-Semitism. I would say at least a plurality of the protestors were young Jewish students. It’s also remarkable how right-wingers and defenders of Israel who complain about the ‘victimology’ of Arabs and black people slide so easily into claims of victimhood themselves.”

    Thank you for this but FFS quit finding it ‘remarkable’ when right-wingers and defenders of Israel who complain about the ‘victimology’ of Arabs and black people slide so easily into claims of victimhood themselves’, when that’s their go to segue into conversations they take over and twist to immediately make it about themselves. Paid professional victims, not meant to be taken seriously and should not be given the attention they are receiving. Batya, Bari Weiss, Ben Shapiro, et al cut from the same cloth and always make the discussion about victimhood, and as feral zionists, want to make sure that jews are at the top of the victim heap.

  6. brent on October 15, 2019, 2:11 am

    This appears to be an example of protesting speech being counter-productive.

    • Mooser on October 15, 2019, 1:16 pm

      “This appears to be an example of protesting speech being counter-productive.” “brent”

      Here comes Tex Antoine’s weather forecast again.

  7. Elizabeth Block on October 15, 2019, 8:40 am

    “The Forward, a Jewish newspaper where I am the opinion editor, publishes more op-eds by Palestinians than the New York Times, the Nation and the Washington Post combined” ?
    If this is true – and it may well be – shame on the New York Times, the Nation and the Washington Post. (Though it may have something to do with the fact that those other papers don’t focus exclusively on Judaism and Israel.)

  8. Misterioso on October 15, 2019, 9:50 am

    Very interesting and relevant:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/betty-mccollum-minnesota-israeli-palestinian_n_5d926349e4b0e9e760514c1f?ri18n=true

    “The Minnesota Congresswoman who Can Criticize Israel” Huffington Post, Oct. 11/19
    By Jessica Schulberg.

    “St. Paul’s Betty McCollum is radically progressive on U.S. policy towards Israel. Why don’t you ever hear about it?”

    EXCERPT:
    “Over the past few years, one member of Congress has stood up to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), denounced Israel’s policies, which she likened to ‘apartheid,’ and pushed laws that would place humanitarian conditions on U.S. military aid to Israel. Human rights advocates praise her, and she is popular in her progressive district. But she is neither the face of the progressive left nor the bogeyman of Fox News. Unless you’ve lived in Minnesota — or read MinnPost — there’s a good chance you’ve never heard of her.

    “Her name is Betty McCollum, and she has represented St. Paul for almost 20 years.

    “President Donald Trump — who loves to attack Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), one of the first Muslim congresswomen, for her criticism of Israel — has never once tweeted McCollum’s name. That the Democratic congresswoman who leads the vanguard of progressive U.S. policy toward Israel in Congress is not the subject of constant bad-faith attacks from the right is a testament to her pragmatism. But it also exposes the inconsistency of the outrage campaign directed at Omar and the other members of the so-called ‘Squad,’ a group of progressive first-term lawmakers who are all women of color.”

  9. Misterioso on October 15, 2019, 10:44 am

    Just released: A must read response to Princeton University’s Daily Princetonian by Dr. Norman Finkelstein:

    http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/10/a-response-from-norman-finkelstein-gs-87

    “A response from Norman Finkelstein GS ’87”

    EXCERPT:

    “The Daily Princetonian states that I delivered ‘anti-Semitic remarks’ at a panel on black and Palestinian solidarity. This is a most serious allegation. But is it true?

    “The article, which was subsequently ‘edited to better reflect the context and content of the panel as a whole,’ was originally a sustained libel against me to the exclusion of the other panelists. In the revised version, the other panelists are quoted, but the libel remains intact. Were it written by the Israeli consulate, the article would have made perfect sense, but the ‘Prince’ is supposed to prioritize the interests of the Princeton community.

    “The ‘Prince’ interviewed Jewish students who allegedly were pained by my remarks, but it apparently couldn’t find a single audience member who appreciated them, even as my intervention evoked loud applause. I went out for dinner afterwards with many of the attendees, including several Jewish students.

    “The ‘Prince’ managed to track down all the principals for a comment (sponsors, select audience members), but didn’t manage to solicit a comment from the headlined subject of the article.

    “The ‘Prince’ reported that Jewish students were scared for their safety, but missed the incongruity that, if they were so scared, why did these frightened persons come up afterwards to speak with me?

    “The ‘Prince’ noted that a dissenting Jewish student in the audience struggled to have his words heard, but it failed to mention that I was the one who firmly insisted dissenting voices from the audience be heard.

    “The oddest thing, however, is that the ‘Prince’ managed to report on every aspect of some Jewish students’ reaction to my talk, even on our private conversations afterwards, and to provide multiple hyperlinks to other alleged statements by me in the past, without once mentioning a single word about the subject of my lengthy talk: Gaza’s martyrdom.”

  10. James Canning on October 15, 2019, 11:37 am

    Is a Jew a Zionist if he or she thinks Israel should serve its own best interests by ending the occupation of the West Bank? Or an anti-Zionist?

    • eljay on October 15, 2019, 11:58 am

      || James Canning: Is a Jew a Zionist if he or she thinks Israel should serve its own best interests by ending the occupation of the West Bank? Or an anti-Zionist? ||

      If s/he believes in Jewish supremacism in/and as large as possible a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”, s/he is a Zionist.

    • Citizen on October 15, 2019, 12:54 pm

      A Jew is a Zionist if he/she thinks a single state with equal protection and full equal rights under the law should not apply across the land. Correct?

      • echinococcus on October 15, 2019, 1:55 pm

        Oh no!
        A Jew is a Zionist if he even thinks heshe has *any* rights anywhere in Palestine (except of course in the case of documented Palestinian ancestry, prior to the declaration of hostile intent by the Zionists.

    • DaBakr on October 17, 2019, 7:17 pm

      @jc

      No. Not necessarily. But you might get that impression from some right to far right wing as well as some religious leaders and some left wing military. Still, the answer is, “no” and technically, still “no, but……(Shaking finger, gestures of angst, incredulity, etc”). And it’s still a matter of opinion wether this answer to your question is anything more meaningful then left or right, center right center left.

      I’m guessing the answer is important to a theorem you have.

  11. echinococcus on October 15, 2019, 2:19 pm

    PS.
    Separately, so as not to confuse the issues: in fact Zionism can be defined very clearly by three necessary tenets:

    1 . That Jews are Jewish even if non-religious (consistent with the hereditary character of the religion),
    and, as a corollary of the above, “Jews” are a constitutive “people” with a mythical common ancestry, albeit no common culture or territory. The above is not Zionism yet, of course, but (mytho-)racial nationalism;

    2. The belief in Romantic nationalism, ie that each “people” of putative common ancestry (or language, or culture) must have its own national-supremacist state in an exclusive territory. This belief is shared by several nationalist ideologies based on an existing common territory;

    3. The belief (and practice) that violation of the basic laws of civilized coexistence is justified by point 2, above.

  12. TaoofJesus on October 15, 2019, 2:19 pm

    I CANCELLED MY SUBSCRIPTION AND DONATIONS TO THE FORWARD LAST MONTH PRIOR TO THIS LATEST DEMONSTRATION OF FORWARD OP EDITOR, BATYA, LACK OF EXERCISING THE BASICS OF JOURNALISM 101 BY FAILING TO BE OBJECTIVE, IMPARTIAL, AND CONSISTENTLY TRUTHFUL.

    AFTER READING FOR A FEW MONTHS AS A NEW SUBSCRIBER I HAD TO REGRET I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THE FORWARD IS NOT JOURNALISM AS PRACTICED BY THE OP EDITOR, BATYA. SHE LEAVES ME WITH THE DISTINCT IMPRESSION SHE IS CONFUSING THE ROLE OF JOURNALIST WITH DOING PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR THE DEPLORABLE, TRAGIC AND RACIST REALITY ZIONISM HAS BECOME.

    ZIONIST JEWS HAVE BEEN LIKE HERETICAL FANATICS GOING OFF THE RAILS LONG AGO FROM AUTHENTIC SPIRITUAL JUDAISM CONFLATED AND MORPHED INTO ISRAEL’S AMORAL APARTHEID SOCIOPATH COLLECTIVE TREATMENT OF PALESTINIANS, WITHOUT ANY REMORSE OR APOLOGIES.

    IN CLOSING CLARIFICATION, I MUST MODIFY MY OVERALL EVALUATION OF FORWARD BY SAYING THAT OTHER WRITERS AT THE FORWARD HAVE DEMONSTRATED THEY KNOW AND USE THE EXPECTED JOURNALISTIC 101 CODE OF OBJECTIVITY AND AVOID ANY SUBJECTIVE REACTIONS THEY MAY PERSONALLY HAVE WHEN DESCRIBING A STORY’S FACTS, PERSONS, AND SUBJECT MATTER FAIRLY.

    ACTUALLY IF THIS CURRENT OP EDITOR, BATYA, WAS TO LEAVE THE FORWARD, I WOULD CONSIDER TRYING A NEW SUBSCRIPTION TO THE FORWARD AGAIN. BUT MY BOTTOM LINE FEEDBACK IS THIS FROM MY EXPERIENCE: IT SEEMS FORWARD’S IMAGE AND REPUTATION AS PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISM IS LOSING CREDIBILITY, WHEN OP EDITOR, BATYA, IS NOT PROVIDING THE PROPER TONE OF PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISM AT THE FORWARD.

    SHE ACTS MORE IN THE ROLE OF A PUBLIC RELATIONS FIXER TRYING TO REHABILITATE A CLIENT, ISRAEL, THAT IS LOSING PUBLIC APPROVAL RATINGS WITHIN ITS OWN CUSTOMER BASE. AND ISRAEL ZIONISM TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE APPEARS TO BE LOSING THE CONSENSUS OF YOUNGER PROGRESSIVE AMERICAN JEWISH POPULATION, WHO ARE CRITICAL THINKERS AND NOT LACKING A MORAL CONSCIENCE TO STEP UP AND BE SOCIAL JUSTICE ACTIVISTS DEMANDING HUMAN RIGHTS, FREEDOM AND DIGNITY FOR PALESTINE’S INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

    AND A CONCLUDING SENTIMENT CAN BE EXPRESSED HERE NEAR COLUMBUS DAY WITH A ROUGH BUT COMPELLING ANALOGY BETWEEN COLUMBUS’ EUROPEAN RACIST TREATMENT TO NATIVES IN AMERICA, WITH THE COMPARABLE EXAMPLE OF ISRAEL’S ZIONIST INHUMANE TREATMENT TO NATIVE POPULATIONS IN PALESTINE’S GAZA AND WEST BANK.

    WHITE, EUROPEAN, RACIST, AMORAL SUPREMACISTS DISRESPECTING THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS. TO BE ANTI-COLUMBUS IS IN SYNC WITH BEING ANTI-ZIONIST. IT’S A COMMON PROTEST AGAINST THE BULLY’S ABUSE OF POWER AND THEIR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

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