The interview that Mike Wallace did of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 2 years ago was aired on C-Span recently, and a diligent blogger has reported on what "60 Minutes" cut out of the interview when it aired. When Wallace confronted Ahmadinejad with the "wipe Israel off the map" threats, Ahmadinejad said that "the solution is democracy" in Israel and Palestine, a suggestion that he favors a one-state solution. I agree with blogger Tom Murphy that "60"'s edits misrepresent Ahmadinejad's thrust, making him out to be far more confrontational than he is, especially after Wallace promised Ahmadinejad that he would listen to his complete answers to questions. And yes, that this amounts to "suppression of basic facts concerning Israel and the Palestinians."
Here's Murphy's data:
The text in red was edited out of the 60 Minutes broadcast:
MR. WALLACE: You are very good at filibustering. You still have not answered the question. You still have not answered the question. Israel must be wiped off the map. Why?
PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: Well, don't be hasty, sir. I'm going to get to that.
MR. WALLACE: I'm not hasty.
PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: I think that the Israeli government is a fabricated government and I have talked about the solution. The solution is democracy. We have said allow Palestinian people to participate in a free and fair referendum to express their views. What we are saying only serves the cause of durable peace. We want durable peace in that part of the world. A durable peace will only come about with once the views of the people are met.
So we said that allow the people of Palestine to participate in a
referendum to choose their desired government, and of course, for the
war to come an end as well. Why are they refusing to allow this to go
ahead? Even the Palestinian administration and government which has
been elected by the people is being attacked on a daily basis, and its
high-ranking officials are assassinated and arrested. Yesterday, the
speaker of the Palestinian parliament was arrested, elected by the
people, mind you. So how long can this go on?
We believe that this problem has to be dealt with fundamentally. I
believe that the American government is blindly supporting this
government of occupation. It should lift its support, allow the people
to participate in free and fair elections. Whatever happens let it be.
We will accept and go along. The result will be as you said earlier,
sir.
MR.
WALLACE: Look, I mean no disrespect. Let's make a deal. I will listen
to your complete answers if you'll stay for all of my questions. My
concern is that we might run out of time.
PRESIDENT
AHMADINEJAD: Well, you're free to ask me any questions you please, and
I am hoping that I'm free to be able to say whatever is on my mind. You
are free to put any question you want to me, and of course, please give
me the right to respond fully to your questions to say what is on my
mind.
Do you perhaps want me to say what you want me to say? Am I to understand –
MR. WALLACE: No.
PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: So if that is the case, then I ask you to please be patient.
MR. WALLACE: I said I'll be very patient.
PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: Maybe these are words that you don't like to hear, Mr. Wallace.
MR. WALLACE: Why? What words do I not like to hear? [the words highlighted in red and edited out of the interview]
PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: Because I think that you're getting angry.
MR. WALLACE: No, I couldn't be happier for the privilege of sitting down with the president of Iran.
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Tom Murphy manages the following URLs:
http://representativepress.org
http://neoconzionistthreat.com
Well color me impressed.
Great job on catching this and putting it out there Mr. Weiss.
Sincere praise here, and a sincere Thank You for reporting this.
And thanks to RepresentativePress for the great work it's doing.
Phil Weiss also conveyed how '60 Minutes' was/is refusing to cover the Mearsheimer/Walt book (www.israellobbybook.com) in the following blog entry (scroll down to the comments section there as well if interested further):
Walt & Mearsheimer's Proof That 'Tail Wagged the Dog' Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos:
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html
Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
http://tinyurl.com/3aprxd
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I think The producer ought to get sued for doctoring up Akmadidijads interveiw . I think he should return that emmy. Get zionism out of CBS and then Me and others might start watching it again. We will expose the truth. I have a u-Tube of it.
And again, as per the Iranian news agency:
Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map
Tehran, Oct 26 – Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday called for Israel to be "wiped off the map".
"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the President told a conference in Tehran entitled 'the world without Zionism'.
"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.
"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to the late founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Imam Khomeini.
Addressing some 4,000 students gathered in an interior ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come.
"The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland," he said.
Regarding the Zionist regime's retreat from the Gaza Strip he said, "we should not settle for a piece of land".
"Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world," Ahmadinejad said.
"Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognise Israel face the wrath of their own people."…
And again, you can even see it reported on Al-Jazeera and other agencies:
http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4384264.stm
I quickly googled "wiped off the map mistranslation" and clicked on the very first link. Ahmadinejad did not say that. Why should we believe any of the incendiary statements attributed to him when the media has been caught editing out his peaceful remarks and mistranslating non-aggressive remarks in what is now clearly recognizable as a mandate to vilify him? Doesn't matter if you put their lies in bold. They're still lies… or at least anyone with a nano-particle of fairness left would have to assume so.
Thank you for covering this! I too feel it's criminal that this interview was doctored and sold to the American people. This is yet one more example of the corruption of our mainstream media. Shame on them!!
SEE THE VIDEO OF THE EDITS: Mike Wallace Interviewed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 60 Minutes, see what was edited out
99,
You Googled it and guess what? He did say it.
It wasn't a "mistranslation".
That's why it was reported by the Iranian site that I posted- as well as by AL-Jazeera and others.
When Leo Strauss sat down and thunk up the notion of 'noble lies', I wonder if he envisaged a sub-category of 'noble omissions', into which these weaselly edits could slip comfortably, next to say Stalin's airbrushing of photos.
Leo would be proud of a busy little sayan like you Madfish, relentlessly doling out pre-digested slabs of deceit for The Cause. He'd be giving you a virtual pat on the head, to be sure.
He'd be happy with Mike Wallace too, though Mike doesn't have hasbara as an excuse for his sins of omission, just cravenness and stupidity, though I do wonder about the imperatives of his production team, or editors or owners.
Winners apparently don't need to wait around to write history any more; they can write the news itself, and cut out the middle man!
"though Mike doesn't have hasbara as an excuse"
Why not? Mike is Jewish and a Zionist.
'"though Mike doesn't have hasbara as an excuse"
Why not? Mike is Jewish and a Zionist.'
Well, blow me down.
Another one!!
The aim of this propaganda (and there is no other word for it) is to scare and antagonise, deliberately and in a premeditated manner. (I would dearly like to know, who actually sat down and cut that tape. There must be the name attached to that edit).
Who benefits from scaring Israel public? To create the conditions for Benni Morrises of this world to openly discuss the preemptive use of nuclear weapons against Iran? How does it shape the world viewpoint of those Israeli politicians who have access to nuclear triggers?
99,
He did say it, damn it, because Stinkfish Hasbara said he did!!! Didn't you see the bold font? Doesn't that get through to you?
Now get it right, or we'll find out your name and label you anti-semite!!!
Stinkfish Hasbara says that the Palestinians cannot have a state, so they can't.
Stinkfist Hasbara says that Phil Weiss is irrevelent, and so is Meretz USA. That means that they are irrelevant!!! Damn it!!
Hey Stinkfish!!! If Phil is so irrelevent, why do you bother with the endless stream of bullshit???
Glenn, I'm enjoying your writing more and more as I see more and more of it, but I disagree with the following…
"Leo would be proud of a busy little sayan like you Madfish, relentlessly doling out pre-digested slabs of deceit for The Cause."
The part I disagree with is the description of Stinkfish Hasbara's deceit as "predigested slabs". To me, they smell more like a morning dump after a feast of pig knuckles washed down with a crate of Guinness Stout!!
PM
Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map
Tehran, Oct 26 – Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday called for Israel to be "wiped off the map".
"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the President told a conference in Tehran entitled 'the world without Zionism'.
"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.
"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to the late founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Imam Khomeini.
Addressing some 4,000 students gathered in an interior ministry conference hall, Ahmadinejad also called for Palestinian unity, resistance and a point where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come.
"The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland," he said.
Regarding the Zionist regime's retreat from the Gaza Strip he said, "we should not settle for a piece of land".
"Anyone who signs a treaty which recognises the entity of Israel means he has signed the surrender of the Muslim world," Ahmadinejad said.
"Any leaders in the Islamic umma who recognise Israel face the wrath of their own people."…
Eva,
Robert G. Anderson was the producer of the Mike Wallace Ahmadinejad interview segment.. The following are his words in response to a question about the edit:
Robert G. Anderson responded:
"I made that edit and I stand by it and completely disagree with your
misinterpretation."
Clearly then, he didn't see the article from the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting News Network that stated that he did say that.
Oh well.
This "Israel must be wiped off the map" mantra is a favorite line of the Faux News(Fox) Network and many ultra radical right wingers that insist Ahmadinejad meant kill every man, woman and child and bomb the land of Israel into oblivion. That is how the Zionist state of Israel wants you to accept the inference. That garners much more sympathy for them. The fact that he was speaking about the criminal regime being removed, even some of the Israeli citizens agree with him on that point,the anti-semitic slur loses all of it's power. The state of Israel is not a theocracy and you can hate the policies and not the people.
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Some Jewish Onomastics
If You Don't Immediately Recognize Wallace as Jewish
Wallace == Wallach
Fallaci == Wallach
Bloch/Block == Wallach
Stone == Stein, Even, Lapid
Faraci == Peretz
Rather == Lieber
Redstone == Rothstein
Mountain == Berg
Gorny == Berger
Winograd == Weinberg
Sacerdote == Cohen
Khoury (Jewish or Christian) == Cohen
Priest == Cohen
Kahn == Cohen
Schiff == Cohen
Ship == Cohen
Kota == Gatto == Katz == Cohen
Montefiore == Blumberg
Benedict == Baruch
Benedetto == Baruch
Benes == Baruch
Hammer == Maccoby
Martillo == Maccoby
Martel == Maccoby
Martello == Maccoby
Adolescente == Jung (Jewish and Christian)
Belmont == Schoenberg
Rich == Reich
Tudescho/Tedeschi (50/50 in Italian) == Ashkenazi
al-Amani == Ashkenazi
Amani == Ashkenazi
Senior == Alter, Nasi
Sinyura (Arabic) == Alter, Nasi (probably via Signore)
Howard == Horowitz
Feith, Feith, Feitl == Haim
Light == Licht == Shraga
Vitali == Chaim maybe also Feibush
Vitale == Chaim or Meir or Feibush
Yuri == Uri, Uriel, Shraga or Meir or Feibush
Volpe == Wolf
Norman == Nachman (sometimes Nussbaum)
Witty == Klug, Kligman
Ruby == Ruben, Reuben, Rubenstein
Bellow == Blau
White == Weiss
Wisse == Weiss
Heart == Herz, Herzl, Lev
Baron, Duke == Herzog
Marcus, Mark == Marx, Mordecai
Korczak == Goldszmit (don't know why)
Black, Czarny == Schwartz
Joy == Simcha, Sima, Sasson, Freud
Ahmedinejad has said repeatedly that everyone – Jews, Muslims and Christians – in historic Palestine should vote to decide how the country should be governed. But of course he means that the Palestinian refugees must vote too, because he doesn't believe it was justified to displace them in the first place.
So in a sense, he is suggesting that Israel should be wiped off the map. But only where "Israel" = "a regime that privileges the Jewish part of the population in Palestine, even if it has to displace and disenfranchise a large part of the Arab population in order to gerrymander a Jewish majority".
If you believe that it's ok to discriminate against the non-Jewish majority, then obviously you have an interest in carefully editing what he says, so as to suggest that he is actually talking about the violent destruction of Israel. Because if you allow him to say he wants to see fundamental change in Israel/Palestine brought about through the ballot box, American viewers might just think that doesn't sound so bad after all, and we can't have that.
In suggesting that borders be revised, he is not suggesting ballot box but revolution.
"In suggesting that borders be revised, he is not suggesting ballot box but revolution."
Either way, it shouldn't be the concern or burden of a single American.
ROFL @ this faux saber-rattling! Its astonishing what these so-called zionists will do for power. Sort of like a lab experiment with unexpected results. Who knows what else this MSM has been editing…
Look at this article,and stop smoking all these things…"Wiped Off The Map" – The Rumor of the Century
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527
Iran's posturing most certainly be of America's concern.
Iran is making war on an ally, by funding, training, arming a proxy army on Israel's border.
Many US allies are very concerned about Iran's seeking dominance of the region, even as it fails to take care of its own.
The only for the US to not need be involved in the region is to become entirely energy independant, and independant of $, which won't happen.
We are all married now.
Of course Ahmadinejad ("A-man") wants Israel "wiped off the map." Well, that's not really what he said…
Here is what he really said: (from website below)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527
"THE ACTUAL QUOTE:
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel".
THE PROOF:
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
Here is the full transcript of the speech in farsi, archived on Ahmadinejad's web site
http://www.president.ir/farsi/ahmadinejad/speeches/1384/aban-84/840804sahyonizm.htm
-end of quote.
So, what does the "A-man" mean by "vanish form the page of time?"
Something like, "Zionism is a failed and bankrupt ideology of racism, hatred and bigotry, and has no place in the world. It will be remembered, if it is remembered at all, as an aberration, a stain on humanity like Nazism, the Afrikaaner Resistance Movement, and the Ku Klux Klan."
In light of A-man's statement (removed) to Mike Wallace that a referendum of all peoples should decide the fate of the lands occupied by the Zionist Entity, he is being consistent. Of course, if everyone, Palestinians and Jews, in the area were allowed to vote whether Israel should stay or go, it would vanish immediately. In any case, it will be gone, one way or another. The lifelines of the Zionist Entity are being severed every day, financially, militarily, politically, morally, psychologically, and materially (consumable resources). It is impossible for it to survive in a world system that is shifting dramatically from an industrial/financial model to a local/cooperative model.
Of course the Zionists will not go peacefully. They will exercise their "Sampson/Masada Option" and take everyone else with them. If the rest of the world wishes to avoid a Zionist-caused holocaust (the burnt-offering- as in nuclear fried- of all gentiles as an offering to God), the global leadership must press for exactly what A-man outlined- a democratic, One-State solution for Palestine with universal human rights guaranteed to all inhabitants.
God help us!
Richard, there is no reason for Americans to give a damn about Israel, and I am not maried to Israel. If Iran and Israel have a problem then it is their problem, and we don't need people with a primary loyalty to Israel clouding the issue, taking sides, or working against the best interests of the citizens of the United States.
If Israel and Jewishness mean so much to you, you should renounce U.S. citizenship and move to Israel.
Todd,
You are married to Israel, to Palestine, to Lebanon, to Saudi Arabia, to France, to Japan, to China, to Iran.
Sorry that you don't notice. When you don't notice, you will likely say and do inflammatory things.
It does matter what Ahmenijidad meant. Its very hard to know in fact. He led a conference on holocaust denial. He led a conference on the world without Israel (as Israel).
Its likely that he did not mean to initiate war directly. Its also likely that he is willing to blow Israel up if he has the opportunity and a provocation. (That is the danger of Iran's possession of nuclear weapons, that they don't have the world's confidence that with a gun in their hand, they won't respond in anger, in fact.)
And, as the quotation came from the Iranian Press Agency, which is responsible for English translations and has been for decades, it is reasonable to presume that their translation is what Ahmenijidad meant.
Again, every interpretation includes the intent to support regime change (and not by election of the governed).
His presumption is as religious in origin as the neo-orthodox presumption that the land is Jewish by Torah-decree.
That is that Jerusalem is Islamic.
Its not democratic in origination.
There is no need for the U.S. to serve the interests of any other nation, and to do so when national interests are harmed should be punished, whether the nation is China Israel, Mexico, or any other nation.
I understand my opinions, and I understand that I have formed my opinions from the outside, just as you have. The situation stinks, and I am just acknowledging it.
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Got honesty?
Marriage doesn't stink.
Good marriages are joys, comforts, cathartic.
Marriages that are ignored usually get to stink.
There is no US interest. It itself is too large an entity to have a single interest.
And, as the US is often an overbearing empire, to pursue US interest is definitionally going to conflict with more humane interests frequently.
Further, too many and too wide a range of communities are dependant on US health. We are our brothers' keepers.
ANY assertion that the US should withdraw is a silly and immoral one. The only question should be how US is involved, either to help, ignore, or harm.
The citizens have an interest in not having their money wasted or having to shed blood in the interest of traitors and foreigners.
America doesn't have to be an empire, and the whole mess should be scaled back, if not broken apart.
I don't believe that the average American or the average citizen of any other country benefits from the mixture of U.S. government and big business interests being projected abroad, any more than they do from a mixture of government and religion, special interests or ideology being projected abroad. In the end, all are prone to corruption and doomed to failure.
Why not admit that cosmopolitans, egalitarians and elites generally have a narrow set of interests that they benefit from just like all other groups, and that they fiercely guard their interests right or wrong just like most other groups.
If the world weren't dependant on the US for everything currently (currency, policing, academia), then your proposal might be a relevant option.
But thats NOT the current reality.
Nothing lasts forever.
The original Ahmadinejad quote said Israel would "Vanish from the pages of history." It was deliberately mistranslated by MEMRI, a known front for the Israeli government, and disseminated by Al-Jazeera – a network created by the BBC. Both groups have a vested interest in starting wars for profit. The problem is that Iran acts far too independently of western power brokers, therefore the order has gone out to put a hit on them.
Sorry Magnus.
In this case the quote was supplied to the press by the Iranian Information Service, translated by them.
I didn't hear of heads rolling (figuratively I hope) after the "mistranslation".
Did you?
Ok, You Israeli Firster. Even your torah says that Israel meaning (zionism) will go in with swords and illegally take over lands and kill people. But God will turn a blind eye and not hear the prayers. Its says that he will destroy Israel. All eurpoean jews have done is kill and tourcher and gotten us and the world into wars. So who are the evil ones? DEATH TO ISRAEL. God hates jews and so do I.
Veterans wide awake.
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Got honesty?
Well of course. I think Americans should vote in the affairs of Iran, too.
Israel want to wipe Iran of the map and already wiped palestine … what about that ?
Yeah….why didn't the european countries accept the jews when they were the ones who burned the jews? And why when we talk about the holocaust, it was the Nazi's work? Were'nt the German soldiers christians?
So are you saying they are Christians but the Nazi ideology overcame their faith?
The Germans has history of crusades slaughtering Jews those days.In world war 2 , they are Nazis, not Christians ????
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