of soldiers mocking a blindfolded Palestinian prisoner and making him say stuff, to laughter. Added today on youtube. Seems abusive. Can someone translate?
Update: Steve R informs below that the soldiers are getting the Arab to ask them in Hebrew to sodomize him with a carrot. Steve R then trivializes this conduct. Imagine for one second this happening in New York, with the police here, and it being caught on a smug video. Imagine advocates for the police rushing out to defend the behavior! Still, thanks to Steve R
Absolutely disgusting. It's pretty clear what's going on. An audience of about 25? It goes on all the time!!!!!
Wow, Phil can't understand Hebrew! Shocking for an "expert" on Israel!
The guy is being told to repeat what the soldier is saying–things like "I want the Golani to put a carrot in my ass"
Golani is a branch of the IDF since you probably didn't know that either.
The guy doesn't seem to understand any Hebrew, so his lack of knowledge of what he's saying is part of the joke (along with the accent).
Unseemly, but pretty mild stuff considering what those soldiers are expected to put up with.
Wow, Phil can't understand Hebrew! Shocking for an "expert" on Israel!
The guy is being told to repeat what the soldier is saying–things like "I want the Golani to put a carrot in my ass"
Golani is a branch of the IDF since you probably didn't know that either.
The guy doesn't seem to understand any Hebrew, so his lack of knowledge of what he's saying is part of the joke (along with the accent).
Unseemly, but pretty mild stuff considering what those soldiers are expected to put up with.
didn't speak Afrikaans either
i guess i blew that one too
Not too late to learn Afrikaans either . .
Wow, you're gonna ride that Israel=Apartheid hobby horse of yours for the rest of your life? Good luck.
Meanwhile, Barry Hussein is helping me to live the dream of a better America
America, Phil, not Palestine.
"Update: Steve R informs below that the soldiers are getting the Arab to ask them in Hebrew to sodomize him with a carrot. Steve R then trivializes this conduct. Imagine for one second this happening in New York, with the police here, and it being caught on a smug video. Imagine advocates for the police rushing out to defend the behavior!"
EXACTLY! Thanks Phil, I was hoping this would be pointed out. I was going to do it myself, but I got caught up responding to Richard in another post…
The IDF does a lot of cruel and bigoted things but this video this doesn't seem one of them. Mostly it seems good natured hazing (albeit by guys with automatic weapons).
Yes, Duscany, its just like the fraternity boys at Abu Graib…
you people are insane, minimizing this scene as hazing. it's a failure of empathy on a massive scale and indicates some sort of personality disorder. exactly, duscany, the soldiers have weapons. the inequity in power could not be greater. can you imagine, no you can't because you have a personality disorder, being powerless, not knowing the language, depersonalized, completely at the mercy of a gang who are known to be brutish?
Peters,
It's difficult for these IOF soldiers to feel empathy, as they have been conditioned that Arabs are lower than people… subhman. The "Light of Nations" has morphed into, to paraphrase your words, a nation of mental illness.
Sure wish Rahm would make aliyah, and take Witty the like with him.
PM
A lot worse goes on in IDF relations w. Palestinians. But this is certainly abuse.
My tentative translation is something like: "The Golani will shove a carrot up your ass."
And yes, it's just hilarious…
Steve R.: You're pathetic. Because Phil doesn't know Hebrew means he can't have intelligent things to say about Israel?? Gimme a break.
"Imagine for one second this happening in New York"
Or Germany.
Abuse is abuse.
It is NOT an example of civilized behavior.
It should not be acceptable policy, acceptable behavior, not enabled by indiscipline.
How others treat you, is NOT a rationale for treating others inhumanely.
That being said, it would be interesting to candidly examine the behavior towards minorities or captured prisoners in Palestinian and other Arab custody.
Paul, if you want to be "shocked" by racism, I suggest you watch the TV of the Palestinian Authority, HAMAS or HIZBULLAH. Endless descriptions about how the Jews are "decendents of monkeys and pigs", how they are subhuman, traitors, etc, etc. Just like some of the things you read in the comments on this site.
Oh, yes…regarding treatment of prisoners…do you all recall when the HAMAS forces took control of Gaza and they took IIRC a couple of FATAH gunmen prisoner, handcuffed them, then took them up to the top of a multi-story building and then pushed them off? There is abuse, and then there is abuse.
Richard Witty nails it!!!
"How others treat you, is NOT a rationale for treating others inhumanely."
In a nutshell, the creation of Israel on Arab land after the Holocaust.
PM
bar_kochba,
Quit trying to pull the wool. The racism of the groups you mention is REACTIONARY.
It is a reaction to the non-stop oppression of the Palestinians in the cases of Hamas and the PA, and to the holding of civilians as "bargaining chips" as well as the ongoing occupation of parts of Southern Lebanon in the case of Hezzbollah.
Let's face it. The Arabs lived side by side with Jews in the Middle East for years, in peace, and in many countries, until the Jews came and started their ethnic cleansing.
I don't excuse the racism of those Arab groups. I equate it with yours.
PM
It effects the current behavior.
Israel forming was NOT an expression of hatred, but of survival.
Richard,
affect (verb)
effect (noun)
By the way, I never said the forming of Israel was an expression of hatred. Your quote says it best, so I'll paste it again.
"How others treat you, is NOT a rationale for treating others inhumanely."
It was not formed as an expression of hatred, but it did and does continue to treat others inhumanely, and for the most part it uses as an excuse for this the inhumane treatment that European Jews received at the hands of the Nazis.
PM
The link no longer works. Instead, the YouTube put the following:
This video has been removed due to terms of use violation
Interesting. Why has YouTube removed the video? Surely we have seen worse things left up on the site?? I bet the zionist hasbara "volunteers" (the DIShonest Reporting gang, etc.) have reported it.