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I don't see two Gazas in these pictures. I only see one.
the true self defensive war was the one put up by Hamas. Similar to the senario in Lebanon in 2006, the continuation of rockets fired into Askelon ended the pogrom. I am with Micheal Neumann on this:
http://www.counterpunch.org/neumann01132009.html
I don't see two Gazas. I only see one. I am with Michael Neumann on this:
http://www.counterpunch.org/neumann01132009.html
I agree, Anon. Although Israel claims the right to self-defense, it's trumped by the Palestinians' right to resist occupation. Why doesn't anybody (except Neumann) talk about that? Everyone is so damned careful to preface any criticism of Israel with a statement about Hamas' "criminal" act of shooting firecrackers into the Negev. Go figger.
It does seem to me in retrospect rather stupid for all these 'militants' to have posed around in balaclavas for photos. I see those damn balaclavas on the front page of the web editions of Haaretz, JPost, and YNet, every bloody day. God knows how old most of them are – one guy glinting his steely eyes through the slit in the hood and brandishing an RPG (very scenic weapon, though not much found in Gaza) is the banner illustration Haaretz uses for all its 'terror' stories. It's rather like having a piccy of a hooded Klansman with a cross burning behind him every time you write about the USA.
Hm. First, these stupid rockets are by no means defending the Gazans. Killing an IDF soldier in Gaza defends the Gazans in theory, not lobbing rockets into Israel, mostly hitting empty space.
Now why do these guys in the pictures wear masks? I mean it can't be because they fear identification and subsequent punishment by Israel, since Israel punishs everybody anyway.
Why bother with the masks?
May be some of these "Islamists" are false-flag agents. Paid mercaneries/Mossad operatives that provide the pretext for Israeli aggression and land grabbing.
Of course it's just a theory, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities right?
Della.
Everyone is so damned careful to preface any criticism of Israel with a statement about Hamas' "criminal" act of shooting firecrackers into the Negev.
Until they read Henry Siegman's excellent article Israel's Lies in the upcoming London Review of Books here:
link to lrb.co.uk
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May be some of these "Islamists" are false-flag agents. Paid mercaneries/Mossad operatives that provide the pretext for Israeli aggression and land grabbing.
Of course it's just a theory, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities right?
Not a theory. Ha'aretz reported this about 10 days ago. I dont have a link. I downloaded the article but can't find it because I didn't put it in the right folder.
Then there is this:
A Hamas imam, who recruits for Hamas in the West Bank, was reported to have told Die Presse Vienna that elements of the Israeli army provided his group with weapons. The comments of Iman "Ali" were made during an undated interview with Die Presse and the interview was reported on December 3o, 2008.
When asked where Hamas gets its weapons, "Ali" replied, "Smuggling, for example from Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood supports Hamas. But the Mafia in the Israeli Army also sold us weapons during the Intifadah. Israel does that to this day. It often happens that Israeli soldiers lie that they have lost their weapons. In reality they sell them to Hamas. And Hamas takes them because it must have weapons, it makes no difference who they come from. Hamas is poorly armed. The explosives are handmade, just like the Qassam rockets."
When asked why Israelis would want to pass weapons to Hamas, Ali responded, "Israel's interest is that Hamas be well-armed so that the world sees that Hamas is militarily fully equipped. Two things can be said on that: First of all, Hamas knows about it. Second, Hamas has a weak army. The strength of Hamas is the loyalty of its members. They would not cheat the army. But Israel makes the press, the propaganda. For everything that happens Israel has a scapegoat: Hamas. Israel tends toward exaggeration only to show that Hamas is a terror movement."
It is well known that Hamas was created by Mossad to act as a foil against Yasir Arafat's Fatah movement. Apparently, the links between Israel and Hamas continue to this day.
Hamas fighter sporting Magen David
Steven Shalom Q&A on Gaza should help people respond to Israeli talking points repeated by neighbors and friends
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MR W, can we have a link for that story please? I have one that relates:
Weapons are smuggled into Gaza from Israel,
says Egyptian human rights official,
Daily Star (Egypt), Jan 23 2009
The question is not whether these weapons come from Israel or Egypt. The question is Can Hamas as the democratically elected government of Palestine owns weapons. and Can they use the rockets to break the siege which itself has been an ongoing act of war since its beginning in 2007.
according to Michael Neumann, yes Hamas has the right to have weapon and use it, even against Askelon and Sedrot. I tend to agree with him.
link to counterpunch.org
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Rowan.
Here. But it's behind a subscription.
link to waynemadsenreport.com
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Sort of like buying a redneck a sheet, even cutting the eye holes in it for him… Now that's not something very Ivy League. LOL
citizen.
Apropos that. Comment on Twitter in the @gaza discussion: "Israel is the KKK of the Middle East."
ahmed.
Steven Shalom Q&A on Gaza should help people respond to Israeli talking points repeated by neighbors and friends
Excellent.
"Can they use the rockets to break the siege which itself has been an ongoing act of war since its beginning in 2007. "
My point is: The rockets do nothing to break the siege. N-o-t-h-i-n-g. Want to break the siege? Sink an Israeli ship, for example the one that rammed the Dignity, were former US congresswoman Cynthia Mc Kinney was on board.
They only do one thing: Give Israel an excuse to attack, and Israel's supporters around the world an excuse to defend said attack.
Weren't explosives used to bring down the walls bordering Egypt that one time? If the rockets blew up portions of other walls, what then? The Egyptians are acting at the behest of the US and Israelis, are they not?
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uh, MR W, Wayne Madsen. I have noticed that nothing Wayne Madsen writes nowadays is ever subsequently corroborated. Verb. sap., as they say (means, word to the wise).