Dear friends,
I’m finished with Beirut; I’m moving to Israel.
There is a remarkable philanthropic organization called Nefesh B’Nefesh seeking people just like me for “the first ever formal initiative to populate Israel’s northern region with English speaking Olim.”
My options are a little limited; I can only move to the Galilee or the Golan Heights to qualify for the benefits package. But what a package it is! Take a look:
- Regional workshops on technical aspects of Aliyah
- Social programs with other Olim [immigrants] and Israelis in the area throughout the year
- Dedicated regional employment assistance, helping with job search resume writing skills, etc.
- Monthly contact with Nefesh B’Nefesh staff via phone calls and emails
- Guided assistance in dealing with government offices
- Transportation assistance to ulpan [language training]
- Financial incentives
Yes! Financial incentives! Personally, I love money. Really, I do. But I would have been willing to “Go North” for no money at all. I have a strong pioneering spirit – and the allure of so much Golan to settle sets me tingling.
I can picture myself there now: sun shining brightly in my lustrous curls, the top two or three buttons of my shirt undone, sleeves rolled up to just below the elbow, skin bronzing. I’ll cast my keen gaze out over my domain, from my heights… as I water my lawn. Frontier living! What an adventure…
I have lots of decisions to make. I’ll need a car so I’m going to lease a Prius. I don’t really have the money right now, but my friends at Nefesh have that covered. I’m going to get “up to $16,000 over a period of two years” to “purchase or lease” a car. Fuck Yeah!! I get a new car!
But I’ll need furniture, too. And a new wardrobe; I can’t be a frontiersman in just a t-shirt and jeans – I’m after the whole lifestyle aesthetic. Well, no problem. My Nefesh money-tree just spouted another $25,000! That’s right – I get another $25,000 just for moving!!!!
I love your money, Israel… (Ahem) excuse me… I love you, Israel.
Wish me luck. There’s an application process and I haven’t applied yet. I think I’m a shoo-in though. I’m a college graduate who speaks English and loves free stuff (or at least, stuff other people are paying for). I mean, what could go wrong? It’s not like I’m a refugee or anything. Well… OK. I am a refugee, but I don’t have to tell them that. And I’d like it if you didn’t either.
Thank you, Mr. Tony Gelbart. As the philanthropist behind this dazzling scheme, I really can’t thank you enough. Really. I’m hoping that one day you’ll abandon your investment company in Boca Raton and move to Israel with me. We could get houses right next to each other and play badminton on weekends. We’ll be best friends!
XXX (hugs and kisses)
Ahmed
It’s not fair! Ahmed gets all this cool stuff and I don’t, just because I happen to be an Israeli citizen already. This is discrimination. I’m calling Abe Foxman, right now.
You do know that as a Toshav Khozer (returning resident, i.e. repatriated citizen) you do get benefits, though not as lucrative perhaps.
By the way, if you were an Arab (Palestinian) citizen of Israel your “returning resident” package would not be approved. You’ll most likely have to take the case all the way up to the Israeli high court.
What other formulas do they offer? Will they offer tour guides in the enemies field? Will i be allowed to see how Pals look like?
Apparisian,
You obviously lack the pioneering spirit that Ahmed has oozing from his pores. You’d never make it through the personal interview.
Haha :-) I m already black listed. JIDF listed me in bad boys list on twitter. Do you know about JIDF ?
Jewish Internet Defense Force sounds like a nerdy Jew troll organization of pre-teens operating out of the basement of their parent’s home.
Are they the people who made the S.H.I.T. Jew (self-hating Israel threatening) list? Aparisian should feel honored by being noticed by them.
lol this is great. Ahmed: here’s the problem. For the goyim like you, Israel makes you pay a price for aliyah. You have to help sweep the mines and cluster bomb-lets out of southern Lebanon, because Israel is considering re-occupying and setting up new colonies for Somali and Haitian Jews!
Hatian Jews, eh?
How many underwent “emergency field conversions” in the last month?
Palestinians should just convert to Judaism. Just for kicks, to see what excuse Israel is going to come up with then.
As I understand it, the problem with that solution is that the only conversion allowed is an Orthodox one, and that involves the acceptance by an Orthodox Rabbi and 6 months or more of “study”. Mubarak Awad, the non-violence advocate deported from the OT years ago, threatened to convert and return and Israel sent out an alert warning all Orthodox Rabbis not to accept Awad as a convert candidate.
hey Avi, hasn’t that schtick been tried before — “we’ll convert to your religion so we can get along…??”
link to scripturestudies.com
(please excuse the Arabic numerals. they are ante-semitic.)
RE: “Haitian Jews”
SEE: Does Gilbert Bigio make Israel look good?, By Paul Woodward, War in Context, January 25, 2010
(EXCERPTS) When Amos Radian, Israel’s Dominican Republic-based ambassador to the nations of the eastern Caribbean, spoke to the Jerusalem Post last week, he was unequivocal in expressing appreciation towards the Bigio family.
Gilbert Bigio, a Syrian Jew and honorary consul for Israel in Haiti also happens to be among the wealthiest men in that impoverished nation. The day before Israel’s relief team was due to arrive in Haiti, Ambassador Radian spoke to Reuven Shalom Bigio, son of the business magnate.
“Tomorrow the Israel Air Force is coming with two jets and 250 people and I have no place to put them,” Radian told Bigio. The response was swift as the Israelis were provided with Bigio-owned land to set up a field hospital. Radian said that the assistance provided “made us look so good”…
….In 2004, the Miami Herald reported on Haiti’s tiny and wealthy Jewish community and spoke to its de facto leader. Bigio saw no reason why the huge disparity between his own wealth and the poverty of those around him should breed in them any resentment. Bigio, 68, lives in a big, beautiful house in Petionville, one of the few upscale neighborhoods in Port-au-Prince. Behind the well-guarded house is a luxurious swimming pool and a gazebo for outdoor parties…
…Cite Soleil, a seaside shantytown of more than 300,000 people residing in homes made of cinder blocks with tin roofs, has been described as poorer than India’s infamous slums of Calcutta. It is also the home of the Bigio business empire…
ENTIRETY – link to warincontext.org
ALSO SEE: Battle Begins Over Who’ll Get Lucrative Haiti Cleanup Contracts, by McClatchy Newspapers, 02/09/10
(EXCERPT) As Haiti begins digging out from under 60 million cubic meters of earthquake wreckage, U.S. firms have begun jockeying for a bonanza of cleanup work.
At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business. It’s unclear at this point who will be awarding the cleanup contracts, but there is big money to be made in the rubble of some 225,000 collapsed homes and at least 25,000 government and office buildings.
At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business.
Randal Perkins, the head of Pompano Beach-based AshBritt, has already met with President René Préval to tout his firm’s skills. To press his case, Perkins, a big U.S. political donor with a stable of powerful lobbyists, has lined up a wealthy and influential Haitian businessman, Gilbert Bigio, as a partner.
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to commondreams.org
Beautiful, Ahmed! And don’t forget the ultimate perk of living in Israel. You get to self-govern! Something Witty has assured me a Jew can’t do anywhere else.
You are Jewish, right? Did they tell you about that little requirement to get all this largesse? You don’t have to take up the religion. Atheism is acceptable, you just have to ditch your parents, or at least your mother, and get a nice Jewish lady to claim you as her own. I’m sure your own mother won’t mind being disowned as long as she knows its all for the benefit of her darling son.
Maybe we need a League of Jewish Mothers willing to claim Palestinian sons and daughters as their own. Palestinians could gain their right of return and get compensated by Nefesh to boot! And Witty could be happy because Israel would remain a “Jewish” state.
That reminds me of all the good hearted Americans who fly to Haiti to adopt orphaned babies. Do any of them realize that the US is responsible for creating a million orphans in Iraq in the last 7 years alone? Why aren’t they being adopted? Why is it that the US grants illegal immigrants from Haiti automatic green cards, but refuses to allow but a mere 7000 of the 4,000,000 Iraqi refugees it created to come to the US?
I’m not talking about adopting babies, although I get your point. I’m talking about women claiming grown men and women as their own so that those men and women can return, or “make aliyah”. It wasn’t really a serious suggestion, but I would love to see the ethnocratic system turned on its head by such an occurrence.
Your point was actually rather clear. The adoption issue just reminded me of Iraqi orphans so I added it below your post.
Yes, it’s a good point about the Iraqi orphans. Perhaps it will evolve the way it did for Vietnamese orphans. During the war there was little concern, it was only after we as a nation stopped seeing the Vietnamese as the enemy that Vietnamese orphans became acceptable to adopt in the US. Its a monstrous pity that we as a nation feel compelled to make those children orphans in the first place. Shame on us!
Well Ahmed Moor, I am not going to advise you against your plan to a country which has been polled as No.4 most dangerous country to live in or one-third of country’s childrens living under poverty line – but I would like to share with you the experience of Dr. Izseldin Abuelaish 54, who worked in an Israeli hospital and looked after hundreds of Jew patients while working in Israel. Now, he a Torontonian like me.
In memory of my three daughters
link to rehmat1.wordpress.com
‘Jew patients’ is pushing it Rehmat. ‘Jewish’ is the proper nomenclature.
The nomenclature is de minimus compared to what that doctor went through losing his daughters.
I agree. Rehmat has spoken that way before though, and someone pointed it out to him then as well.
He just makes a post here, linking to his blog, and leaves. Not like he isn’t contributing, but it’s just silly little things like this that derail the overall message (the doctor and his great loss).
I feel like BSDNow all of a sudden…
“I feel like BSDNow all of a sudden… ”
Ugh and how double-darn creepy!
I feel like BSDNow all of a sudden…
Yikes! Kinda like that story where the guy wakes up in the body of a bug, I imagine.
I think Mondo should start a campaign of inundating NBN with applications (fake, of course). Everybody, think of a Jewish name and apply. Tell your family members to apply. Tell your friends to apply. Tell everyone you know to apply. NBN’ll be bogged down with so many applications it’ll grind their admin to a halt. How will they differentiate between fake applicants and genuine ones?
If Mark Thomas can do this sort of thing, so can we. Let’s do it!
Great Idea Ihsan, you think that will help the Palestinians get a state any faster?
This is proof that your hatred for everything Israel is much more powerful than your care for Palestinians.
This is a great idea for Mondoweiss as the bulk of you hate Israel much more than you care for Palestinians.
*yawn*
Welcome back, sunshine.
thanks Cliff, it was a nice week long sabbatical. I promise to be even more of a troll now.
You’re off to a great start.
*yawn* is the least of it. yonira should peddle his or her anti-Mondoweiss pablum elsewhere.
How could we possibly get the Palestinians a state with your lot wondering about their lands like Gypsies? Arrogant, racist and abusive Gypsies no less. No offence to any Gypsies out there, but at least they move on, after a while.
The more you pontificate about how I hate everything Israel, the more I actually hate Israel. Grow up.
I’d love to flood NBN with applications. If anything, it’d keep their arrogance in check.
Your record is stuck, yonira.
Anyone who chooses to leave beautiful Lebanon for uglyfied Israel is an idiot.
No amount of money can sweeten the stench of illegal Israeli settlements in Golan or anywhere south of the Litani.
I really do hope that your letter to us is meant as tongue-in-cheek.
If it isn’t, then I’m very sorry for you. Didn’t your mother ever tell you: there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Taxi, Ahmed is a Palestinian refugee. It was definitely meant to be tongue-in-cheek.
Ahmed, you need to also build on the notion that your ancestors actually were Jewish people who converted to Christianity and then Islam and now you want to return to your roots. It’s actually much more plausible than the notion of the Shin lung and the Venda being descendants of lost tribes.
Also, a short cut would be to claim that your mother’s father married a Jewish woman which would make you Jewish. Russians were able to get away with this even if the one Jewish grandparent was an atheist descendant of a tribe that converted to Judaism centuries ago.
Ahmed,
pretty childish post. other than UNWRA who considers you a refugee? Palestinians are the only ‘refugees’ in the world who will have 5 and 6th generation ‘refugees’ I really don’t understand it. Isn’t that a shitty way to live your life, always striving for something you’ll never get?
Geez, Yonira, look at your own self. You seem to think that Jews have an inalienable right to the area that dates back two or three thousand years, regardless of whether a particular Jew can even trace his ancestry back there.
You’re a hypocrite. Did all those Jews live a shitty life? Really, your empathy is just so underwhelming. Your loathing of Palestinians is showing again. Time to freshen up up those classes on fake sympathy.
Ahmed is poking fun at the reality that Israel has to monetarily entice Jews to come to the land that they are all supposedly yearning for, according to Zionists, and your only response is to get incensed that he calls himself a refugee. I think he hit a nerve, and you are hitting back with hatred.
He is as much of a refugee as my native american girl-friend is a refugee.
he was ethnically cleansed he didnt choose to leave and he will go back to Palestine sooner or later.
he is 25, so is my girlfriend. neither of them were ethnically cleansed.
You live in the US, right? Your native american girlfriend lives in the country(US) that oppressed and ethnically cleansed her ancestors, and she lives here as a full citizen of the US. Its the least that the US can and does offer her, and it is much, much more than what Israel offers Ahmed, which is nothing but the kind of abuse you heap on him. Shame on you for your insensitivity. It seems to be a prerequisite for believing in Zionism.
right so why Jews have the right to return to Palestine? does that mean Jews dont have the right to Aliyah?
Your 25 year old girlfriend was born a full citizen of the US, to parents than became full citizens in the 1920′s or 30′s. They were not refused entry into the US, they were not at that point, denied their rights as residents here. Your girlfriend is not in the same situation as Ahmed. Her grandparents and greatgrandparents were, but, guess what? Times change? Do you suppose your girlfriend’s greatgrandparents lived a “shitty life”, “always striving for something (they’d) never get”? How about the blacks under slavery, “striving for something they’d never get”? Change happens because people strive for things they’ll never get. And we all all the better for it, including you and your girlfriend.
Ahmed is an American citizen, just like she is. Yes she gets benefits, but mostly from her tribe, the US government gives her very little.
I am quite sensitive to the plight of the Palestinians, but he is a citizen of the United States. Even if he were born to a refugee (which I believe he was) I still don’t understand why HE is considered one. No other ancestors of refugees are considered such, only Palestinians.
The difference between Palestinian refugees and others is that Palestinian refugees have been continuously denied their right of return for over 60 years. As soon as a right of return is proffered and then either rejected or accepted, then the refugee status will end. You can’t continue to refuse a refugees right to return and then insist that his/her descendants do not inherit the right that was denied to the parents or grandparents. If you want the end of refugee status for Palestinian descendants then you have to support their right to return. Until that right is granted, there is nothing wrong or “shitty” about continuing to call Palestinians, who should by rights be Israeli citizens, true refugees. You aren’t very sensitive at all, despite how you might view yourself.
The US offers your girlfriend citizenship in the land where she and her parents grew up. She was not forced to grow up in another land far from where her parents lived, prohibited from ever returning. Until Israel offers the same thing to the Palestinians that the US offered to the American Indian, Ahmed’s situation will not be the same as your girlfriend’s, even though your girlfriend’s situation is far from ideal.
oh yeah and the Jews who make Aliyah they have no nationalities? Answer my question, troll?
They are Israeli after they make Aliyah, if you moved from France to Great Britain, you’d be British. not sure whats so hard there…..
i m not sure if i move to the UK kill brits and steal their homes i will become brit
how does that brief tutorial on anti-hasbara go:
Hasbara = we rock, they suck, you suck, everything sucks.
so, yawnira is on, “they suck” or “you [Ahmed] suck”, which one?
troll so why the hell then Jews have returned to Palestine? what about Aliyah?
Why are you so upset yonira? Let the boy dream. Some dreams do come true you know.
Would you feel better if Hamas offered you the same package but located in Gaza?
Would you take the money and the brand new car yonira? Honestly now, would you?
I won’t make Aliyah until the Palestinian issue is resolved.
I would consider moving to Gaza once the honor killings and female circumcision is outlawed.
oh yeah i thought circumcision was a Jewish tradition too?
I know honor killings, though rare, do actually occur (I hear Jordan is pretty bad on this too), but female circumcision in Gaza? I insist you supply a reputable link on this.
Otherwise you are practicing a blood liable against another semitic people.
Also, to use your native-American girlfriend as example is moot my dear. Though her ancestors were genocided, she is not a refugee because she has not be forced off her ancestral land and she certainly these days has human and civic rights that Palestinians can only dream of.
The way you go on yonira, your mean-streak, must make for a shitty life for your girlfriend. I wouldn’t blame her in the slightest if she threw herself off the nearest bridge one of these days – anything to stop the incessant wahwahwah that your discourse so often sinks to.
I won’t make Aliyah until the Orthodox goons and their ‘modesty squads’ stop throwing acid in the faces of women wearing pants and stop forcing women to the back of public buses .
I knew that Yonira wanted to say it, but was incapable. Psychologically speaking, that is.
very very few honor killings exist today even Hamas send those who comit it to Jail: link to haaretz.com
marcb.
You forgot to add the zealot’s tendency to spit en mass at non-observing pedestrians on Saturdays.
What the fuck is that about, yonira?! Why do they do that? Does it really make them feel good to spit on people, make them feel closer to god?! What will it be next, hissing, bansheeing and clawing?… oh right, they already do that.
You wouldn’t consider moving to Gaza, ever.
Marc,
I would just beat them up…. as an Israeli of course, i’d be deported otherwise.
I would just beat them up
A point of agreement, and a dialogue opens! . . . Er . . . I’ll have to reflect on this a bit. Not quite the opportunity it first felt like.
They are fucking idiots Taxi, once the Palestinians have their state and I make Aliyah, I will create my own goon squad to beat their asses (if of course I am not too old to still beat ass)
Yeah, it’s shitty, Israel should be offering the Palestinians all that money as reparations to help them move back home.
US of A just gave UNRWA $40million toward humanitarian aid for Gaza refugees.
First US pays Israel to kill Palestinians and destroy their livelihoods, resources, etc., they US pays to rebuild what Israel destroyed.
and people wonder what the mystery is behind Jewish financial success.
#1 Other than UNRWA and every other country in the world besides the US and Israel you mean? (and maybe Australia and Palau)
#2 If Palestinians are the ONLY refugees in the world with 5th and 6th generation refugees; it’s only because Israel’s obscenity of ignoring UN resolution 194 for 62 years; and not allowing the refugees to return is unique in the world.
#3 If Palestinians were given citizenship somewhere and better chances at rights and a decent life, maybe they could find more permanent settlement and not have to pine for the return to Palestine in squalid camps across the Middle East. Still, even a refugee I know in Cairo, Egypt who’s family is very successful vows to one day return to Ashkelon. Palestinians are the people of hope, and your pathetic post won’t ever change that
Hope doesn’t cut it.
Be careful dear ones, masters of hasbara are great at diverting the substance of a discussion into arguments over obscure and pedantic trivia. Note how we were sucked into a debate over whether the children of refugees are allowed to refer to themselves as refugees.
where else is that valid homingpigeon? the question still hasn’t been answered. diversion is a nice tactic but it only gets you so far.
The answer to your question: Do the children of refugees have the right of return to the lands of their ancestors was answered in the 19th century – I believe it’s referred to as Zionism.
Surely Jews that were exiled from Israel were no less refugees than the Palestinians who endured the same in 1948. Jews were driven out – i.e exiled. Wikipedia states that Palestinians fled or were expelled in 1948 – i.e. they too were exiled.
The dictionary definition of exile is “expulsion from one’s native land by authoritative decree.” The definition of expel is “to drive or force out or away; discharge or eject.” Exiled / expelled. Tomayto / tomahto. They are both the same thing.
Using Google as an example, the search term ‘Palestinians AND exile’ returns 554,000 results. The term ‘Jews AND exile’ returns around 3,760,000 results – that’s almost 7 times more references (remarkably similar to the bias in the media coverage of Palestinians and Israelis). We don’t often we see the word ‘exile’ used alongside ‘Palestinians’ because the term is most often reserved to describe Jewish suffering. As though Jews have a monopoly over suffering.
nice diarrhea of the keyboard, how long did you spend on that post to say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?
So basically your argument is saying that all Jews Abraham have the right to return to Israel and all Palestinians since 1948 have the same rights to return to the same land?
yonira,
Your first paragraph contradicts your second one asshole.
yonira,
Your first paragraph contradicts your second one a$$hole.
Taxi,
The guy isn’t worth it. Let him vent and be on his merry way.
yonira’s a guy? seriously? Well I’ll be damned!
I was saying that if Jews have the right of return then Palestinians do too. Contrary to what you may be thinking, there is NOTHING special about Jews that elevates them above Palestinians.
The difference between a Jew returning to “Israel” and a Palestinian returning is that the latter can testify “I lived here, in this exact spot.” Whereas, the former can only say “I will settle here.”
ihsan: The difference between a Jew returning to “Israel” and a Palestinian returning is that the latter can testify “I lived here, in this exact spot.” Whereas, the former can only say “I will settle here.”
Symbolically, it is the difference between the Zionist Law of Return and the Palestinian Right of Return.
Rehmat mentioned Izzeldin Abu Laish –
He spoke at a Jewish Community Center a while ago. Jews thronged the event, made them feel so good to trot out this elegant man, a Muslim, a Palestinian, who, try as you might, refused to utter words of hatred or vengeance over the deaths of his beautiful daughters, at Israeli hands.
Four Jewish people in the audience took the microphone, warned Abu Laish that they were holocaust survivors, and why the hell were Palestinians still refugees anyway, it was their own fault….
unbelievable that actual human beings can be so hateful. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it with my own eyes.
I guess this thread’s as good as any (after all, Ahmed has to make an informed decision about his upcoming aliyah) to report on the latest development concerning Beit Yehonatan – illegal settler high-rise in Silwan that Jerusalem’s mayor finally promised to do something about (after a scolding from the municipality’s legal advisor):
Yishai moves to legalize Jewish ownership of East Jerusalem building
Surprise surprise. Not even a fig leaf for the only democracy in the Middle East.
And the same thing is happening to the Supreme Court decision on Road 443.
Ministers will rule on Sunday on a plan to dodge a Supreme Court decision that allows Palestinians to use a West Bank highway – by annexing the road to Israel.
A ministerial legislative committee will discuss a proposal by MK Moshe Matalon (Yisrael Beiteinu) to make road 443, a route popular with Jerusalem commuters, part of Israeli territory.
Ministers seek to beat court by annexing West Bank Highway
So if I want to cross the road I will have to show a passport?
As long as you’re in a car with Israeli plates and don’t look conspicuously Palestinian (I was once stopped – must have been the particularly full beard I was sporting at the time), you will be waved through the checkpoint. Like most “security” measures, the apartheid practices on Road 443 only hurt ordinary people. Those intent on violence will find away around them.
Sorry RoHA, I guess you meant the annexation thing. The whole area was annexed de facto, long ago, and there is no access to the road from the surrounding Palestinian villages, anyway (the infamous wall takes care of that). The new law will just “legalise” the status quo.
I think if you are Palestinian you do not get to cross the road at all, if this annexation proposal goes through. The chutzpah of the whole thing is that when the road was first built, on confiscated Palestinian land, the authorities insisted that the confiscations were necessary in order to build a new road for the Palestinians to use. And this was one of the reasons given for the Supreme Court decision that ruled it illegal to prevent Palestinians from using it.
This kind of legislation is appropiately (in this case) called okef bagatz – “High Court bypass”. The basic idea is to preserve an illegal situation by changing the law. It doesn’t actually change anything on the ground (Palestinians already have no access to the road), but serves to impose the will of the executive and the legislature on the judiciary.
Shmuel, you are bashing non stop the image of the Israeli paradise, you are a self hating Jew :-) was kidding you man
I m reading Finklestein book “Beyond Chuztpah” and i m so disturbed by the cruelness of Zionists lies.
Achmed,
its too bad your ancestors passed up the chance to be Israelis when they had the chance, I don’t think it will be possible for you anymore.
You just keep getting more and more ridiculous….
That’s the sum total of of yonira’s “sensitivity” for “the Palestinian’s plight”. It’s all their parents or grandparents fault, for not staying and risking death, or fighting expulsion and being assured of death. It would be so much more convenient for yonira if Ahmed’s parents had died, then Ahmed could not be a refugee because he would have never been born. Yonira’s a very sensitive soul that way. Not. Zionism apparently does that to you, rips away your soul and your empathy for others not like you.
And in the meantime, he plans his own future aliyah, upset that Ahmed’s desire to retain his rights might interfere with yonira’s unearned privilege.
Cliff – you may add your “proper nomenclature” to these facts too.
Israel: World’s 4th most dangerous country
link to rehmat1.wordpress.com
Terrorists to train Indians to fight local terrorists
link to rehmat1.wordpress.com
does anyone read Rehmat’s posts, if not here is a taste of link #1:
YES – the western mainstream media owned by six Jew families have been brainwashing the world for decades that Muslim world is the most dangerous place to live or deal with. Well, they’re liars and I can prove it.
Which Jew families are you talking about you fucking assfuck
Funny how right of return looks from different perspectives:
Talking about the “entitlement” or not of the second and third generation, there are stacks of claims, by Jewish citizen of Israel, for return of Jewish property, lodged with government of Poland, together with sudden demand for Polish citizenship (since Poland joined EU) from both ex polish citizen and descendants of polish citizen who left Poland in nineteen forties, fifties and sixties.
Surely, (irony very much intended) they should have settled by now in their new countries, and forget those dreams of return……….
It really is ridiculous.
link to original.antiwar.com
Apparently, there are ‘Indian Jews’. A ‘lost tribe’ even!
I guess, I should pack my bags. Stolen Palestinian land/resources – here I come!
The Pashtuns of Afghanistan also consider themselves a lost tribe of Israel. Maybe half of Afghanistan will decide that they are the real Jews and want to make Aliyah.
These people, the Bnei Menashe, ‘Children of Mannasseh’ have been through this before, from 2000-2003, when some 1700 were brought to Israel, and settled in the Gaza Strip. Their conversion to Judaism dates back to 1951, when a Pentecostalist dreamt that his people’s pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel
link to en.wikipedia.org
BTW: if Palestinians convert to Judaism, they can gain Israel?
I suspected as much, but appreciated hearing this from someone in the know. Its amazing how much of a double standard there is, and how oblivious people like yonira are to it. Jews must never forget, Palestinians must “get over it” and never remember or ask for their rights.
The above was in reply to eva’s post about Poland.
The literary editor of Ha’aretz, Michael Handelsaltz, was sharply criticised a while back for being one of those many Israelis who applied for Polish citizenship – proof, as it were, of his lack of “Zionism”. In his reply, he defended his decision, explaining that he (unlike others) had actually been born in Poland, spoke Polish, visited Poland and felt connected to the land, its people and its culture, and saw no contradiction between that and his Zionism or connection to Israel. He also got in a few licks on the subject of Israeli parochialism.
Shmuel,
What’s your take on why so many Israelis are applying for citizenship in European countries? Are they simply hedging their bets or are other forces at work.
From my viewpoint, I never understood why more Jews haven’t returned to their roots in Europe. It seems like abandoning Europe was equivalent, in a small way, to letting Hitler win.
tree,
I think it’s mostly pragmatic, although there is certainly a psychological element. With an EU passport you have fewer visa problems (particularly in the US), for work, study or pleasure, and you can travel more inconspicuously (a goal that, in itself, has both pragmatic and psychological reasons).
I think the psychological element is less a matter of an “insurance policy” in case the Zionist project fails and the Jews get “thrown into the sea” (as opposed to the US Jewish concept of the “insurance policy”), than an option for employment and possible escape from Israel’s “heaviness” (war, religion, ideology). It’s a ticket to “normality” that is a comfort just to have lying in a drawer somewhere.
Whatever bridges to Europe Israelis still had after the Holocaust, were burned long ago. There is little nostalgia and less identification. Many Israelis of European origin have not even maintained the original spelling of their surnames in Latin characters, using some strange re-transliteration from Hebrew, when necessary. Where personal feelings were not enough, the propaganda machine stepped in. Europe is a very very bad place, filled with anti-Semites (as any Israeli will tell you). Ironically, there is quite a large Israeli ex-pat community in Germany, although few with actual roots in Germany. It’s just the easiest place for Israelis (and Jews in general) to get a visa.
Shmuel, these days i try to watch Guysen a French Israeli CNN. And i must admit i m very shocked by the information treatment of this channel. Yesterday for ex: they will showing the results of what they called the terrorism sympathy of the Arab people, according to them Palestinians are the most extremists after Lebanese and Egyptians. The conclusion of their polls is that Arabs show more sympathy to the international terrorism.
They will also talking about Iran, saying i cite “Germany is a good student” because they accepted to cancel economic contracts with Iran after the demands of Israel. For them China is a partner with terrorism because they keep trading with Iran.
They also were talking about Peace process, saying Abbas as all precedent Palestinian leaders never wanted to sit on the negotiations time, from their point of view he is playing the card of time.
I mean how can any rational Israeli citizen believe this? How can we consider this as free media?
Thanks, Shmuel. I always learn something useful or just interesting whenever I read one of your comments.
I share that sentiment! – I also agree with the suggestion that for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted – all of what they wanted if their complaint was that Jews were foreigners and should not be citizens or residents of Euro countries. The Nazi manifesto was designed to appeal to people who thought like that.
MH: for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted
Jews left because their communities, families and lives had been destroyed. No one really cared at that point whether the anti-Semites were pleased or not.
Jordan has several Palestinian refugee camps, which house nearly 300,000 people.
Lebanon also has some large refugee camps, such as Shatila, Sabra, Bourj al-Barajneh, and Ain el Helweh, but has a more draconian policy towards Palestinian refugees than either Jordan or Syria.
Walk into Lebanon’s largest Palestinian refugee camp, Ain al-Helweh, at midday and you are struck by the number of school age children in the streets, many going to and from their UNRWA schools as they cannot attend state schools.
Palestinians in Lebanon are also banned from seeking state healthcare, owning property and even bringing in building materials into the refugee camps.
Excerpt from: Lebanon’s Palestinian refugees
link to english.aljazeera.net
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