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Julian Assange interviews Hassan Nasrallah on World Tomorrow

In one of the most anticipated news programs this year,  Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is once again making big waves. According to CNN, The World Tomorrow on RT  has created a stir in global media circles, and that’s no exaggeration. While under house arrest in Britain, Assange still has the kind of access others dream of: in episode one Assange interviews Hezbollah’s Sayyid Nasrallah, speaking from a secret location in Lebanon, his first interview in over six years.

In anticipation Twitter hashtags #ExpectAssange and #TheWorldTomorrow trended globally on Tuesday and Assange’s crew blacked out show credits in a controversial protest to protect themselves from possible threats by security agencies due to legal repercussions.

“The US, Israel, Canada and The Netherlands deem Hezbollah a “terrorist group,” while the UK and Australia deem Hezbollah’s military wing a terrorist group, and there may be laws against contact with this political party”, explained Lavelle.

“In a recent US Supreme Court decision (Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project, June 21, 2010) the Court upheld material support provisions that prohibit otherwise protected free speech. The Court said that Congress could prohibit conflict resolution, humanitarian aid and other groups from providing training or expert advice to terrorist groups, even when that assistance is aimed at preventing violence.”

This is a fantastic interview. Regardless of one’s opinion of Hezbollah or Nasrallah, it’s a rare glimpse for western audiences, who are generally shut out from getting any views of the man or the organization that are not filtered by mainstream censors. His strong charismatic personality comes thru loud and clear, whether he is speaking of the Arab Spring, Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestine, his childhood or human instinct. It’s a must-watch interview with one of the most galvanizing leaders on the world stage.

Hezbollah urged the Syrian opposition to engage in dialogue with Assad’s regime, but they refused…..

“This is the first time I say this – We contacted […] the opposition to encourage them and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the regime. But they rejected dialogue,” he revealed. “Right from the beginning we have had a regime that is willing to undergo reforms and prepared for dialogue. On the other side you have an opposition which is not prepared for dialogue and it is not prepared to accept reforms. All it wants is to bring down the regime. This is a problem.”

…Stressing that Hezbollah supports dialogue, Nasrallah points out that without it, “civil war is the only alternative.” In his words “this is exactly what America and Israel want… Arab states are ready for tens of years of dialogue with Israel but won’t have two months to try a political solution in Syria.”

CNN states:

“RT is rallying a global audience of open-minded people who question what they see in mainstream media and we are proud to premiere Julian Assange’s new project,” Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan said in a statement on the television network’s website.

“We provided Julian a platform to reach the world and gave him total editorial freedom. He is absolutely the right person to bring alternative opinions to our viewers around the globe.”

“The World Tomorrow” will be broadcast [simultaneously] on three RT channels, in English, Arabic and Spanish.

“RT is the first broadcast licensee of the show, but has not been involved in the production process. All editorial decisions have been made by Julian Assange,” the website said.

The New York Times sounds a tad miffed:

Mr. Assange, whose show is carried by RT, a Kremlin-backed news network and Web site, boasted that it was Mr. Nasrallah’s first interview in the West since 2006. And the two wanted men had a cozy chat, even though they weren’t on the same couch or even on the same continent.

…….

Mr. Assange says the theme of his half-hour show on RT is “the world tomorrow.” But there is something almost atavistic about the outlet he chose. RT, first known as Russia Today, is an English-language news network created by the Russian leader Vladimir V. Putin in 2005 to promote the Kremlin line abroad… It’s like the Voice of America, only with more money and a zesty anti-American slant. A few correspondents can sound at times like Boris and Natasha of “Rocky & Bullwinkle” fame. Basically, it’s an improbable platform for a man who poses as a radical left-wing whistleblower and free-speech frondeur battling the superpowers that be.

……

His reputation has taken a deep plunge since he shook the world in 2010 by releasing, in cooperation with The New York Times and several other news organizations, masses of secret government documents, including battlefield reports from Iraq and Afghanistan. Most news organizations edited and redacted the papers to protect lives. Mr. Assange put everything on his Web site. To some he was a hero, to others a spy, but nowadays he is most often portrayed as a nut job.

In a preshow promotional interview with an RT reporter, Mr. Assange said he chose that network because it has greater penetration in the United States than Al Jazeera and because no other networks would have him. He isn’t looking forward to the reviews of his show. He predicted that The Times, among others, would dismiss him as “an enemy combatant and traitor getting into bed with the Kremlin.”

Of course, practically speaking, Mr. Assange is in bed with the Kremlin, but on Tuesday’s show he didn’t put out.

Moscow is at odds with Washington over Syria, and RT accordingly colors its reports from Damascus with sharp digs at the West and American support of opposition fighters that RT describes as “terrorists.”

About Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani
Posted in Arab Spring, Israel Lobby, Israel/Palestine, Israeli Government, Media, Middle East, Nakba, Neocons, Occupation, Reports/Video, US Policy in the Middle East, US Politics, War on Terror

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  1. Les says:

    The Times was hoping Ethan Bronner, who is transitioning from his full time job with the paper and his part time job doing pr for Israel’s Zionists, might be interviewed and thus deserve a more positive story. The Times seems to have turned its television “news” to purely opinion.

  2. pabelmont says:

    The USA (blessed be it, someday!) makes it a crime to materially support an organization listed as an international terrorist org. I daresay that Assange, RT, and who knows how many others are now — by their acts of helping Hezb to speak to the world — subjected themselves to criminal liability under this barbaric statute. Perhaps, who knows, without being USA citizens or on USA territory.

    UK has similar laws. Not the same.

    Oh well. Even Stalin and Mao, had they shared inventive thoughts, couldn’t have come up with such a totalitarian statute. Speaking to “terrorist” probably constitutes giving material help. (At least, unless you are a USA big shot such as those — Giuliani, Dean — who spoke to MEK, also a listed org. In that case it is still a crime, but by selective prosecution you probably will not be punished.)

    Gotta give credit to the USA where credit is due.

    • ritzl says:

      With the publicity that Greenwald has given the MEK (soon to be???) scandal of major US players accepting money from a listed terrorist group to argue for their “de-listing”, there has to be a selective enforcement hiatus from the aggressive “material support” interpretations of HvHL. This may be OK for a bit.

      Or there may be a proactive defense against prosecution. Maybe.

  3. lysias says:

    Glenn Greenwald has a good piece on this interview today: Attacks on RT and Assange reveal much about the critics .

    • ritzl says:

      Thanks, lysias.

    • yes thank you lysias, i had not read greenwald til now, still reading actually, just got to the nyt part and realized we chose the same blockquote. the nyt really chewed him up and so did many others. i thought of providing all the links. they all called it a ‘talk show’ insted of a news program for one thing. i don’t really know the definition of a talk show but there was something in the way they stuck together. so snide. anyway..back to greenwald.

      edit, one more thing. it’s against the rules to link to RT at dkos. lol. funny. at least it used to be.

      • lysias says:

        “b” of Moon of Alabama doesn’t have much to say about the interview, but he did start a thread on it on which a lot of people have made comments: Real Journalism?.

        • yeah, that’s where i first saw it yesterday and saw the nyt link in the comments too. i actually drafted most of this last night.

          i owe a lot to b, he’s taught me a different way of viewing the media and a whole slew of other things. too many to mention. he’s a wonderful person. i’m fortunate to have spent some quality time with him offline as well.

          i can honestly say i don’t think there is any posting b’s ever written on that site i have ever missed, not one. moa is a mainstay for me and has been since the day it began.

          (have you ever opened the daily palestinian link on the left lower side of the homepage? moa is where i first learned about the nakba and put palestine on my radar)

      • “edit, one more thing. it’s against the rules to link to RT at dkos. lol. funny. at least it used to be. ”

        No, there was a diary on DKOS linking to Assange’s interview on RT link to dailykos.com
        I think you are thinking of Press TV, the Iranian network. Press TV has been declared an antisemitic network, so people (like me) can’t link to their corespondent in Gaza Yousef Al Helou link to youtube.com

  4. Wow, Annie! That blew me away! If this guy is a terrorist, the rest of us are as well.

    In all his answers, even on the question of a monotheistic hegemony, his answers were those of a rational person who is comfortable in his faith, as opposed to that of a religious fanatic. He talks of people living together (he even talked about his faith being an Abrahamic one – which is a unifying rather than divisive concept, as opposed to asserting that his faith is an Islamic one).

    Being an atheist, I may not share his views, but I certainly did not find them threatening or fanatical in the least.

    Now contrast this with the picture that has been painted for us about the barbaric, blood-thirsty terrorists, hell-bent on the destruction of the Israeli people. This is how we wage wars. We demonize our victims, thus justifying their annihilation.

    I am completely stunned!

    This needs to go viral.

    • hey! i had a very similar response. it totally made sense to me how popular he is. did you notice how he started smiling when asked about his childhood (about 20 minutes in), when he answered, about palestinians? and then he kept it up almost thru to the end. i think this person loves life.

      • Yeah! This is a human being with very human emotions and aspirations. He is no different than you or I.

        The difference between the reality of Hezbollah and what is constantly hammered into us by the MSM and Israel is so stark in this video, that it is frightening! It causes me to question everything that I have come to believe over time. I have not been exposed much to the going-ons in Lebanon, and even though I didn’t really believe that the freedom fighters there are terrorists, I am struck by how similar they are to us – and what a contrast they are to their Israeli counterparts.

        This is the power over our subconscious that we have allowed the MSM to have. It is enough to turn anyone into a conspiracy theorist!

        Wow!

        • lysias says:

          I had the same reaction when I recently read Fidel Castro’s autobiography: My Life: A Spoken Autobiography. He spoke like a thoroughly reasonable person. I’m afraid our governments have been telling us lies about him for decades, lies that fooled me for a long time.

        • I’m afraid our governments have been telling us lies about him for decades, lies that fooled me for a long time.

          Our government, and a very powerful Cuban lobby – not as influential as the Israel lobby, but still very formidable.

    • eljay says:

      >> In all his answers, even on the question of a monotheistic hegemony, his answers were those of a rational person … He talks of people living together (he even talked about his faith being an Abrahamic one – which is a unifying rather than divisive concept … ).

      I agree that he spoke well and didn’t come across as a fanatic. Nicely done.

      His description of his faith as Abrahamic was, IMO, nothing more than a nice little bit of PR. Even though he claims that there’s only one “god” and one truth and we’re all just one big happy family, I’m willing to bet that you won’t find him encouraging Muslims to abandon Islam and embrace Judaism any time soon. ;-)

      • lysias says:

        The idea that Judaism and Christianity are, like Islam, religions of the book appears already in the Koran. It’s dictated the policy of Muslim governments towards Judaism and Christianity for many centuries.

        • eljay says:

          >> The idea that Judaism and Christianity are, like Islam, religions of the book appears already in the Koran.

          Of course it does. Mohammed was a shrewd fella, and he realized that there’s no better way to attract converts to your new religion than to say it’s the continuation of earlier religions. He was very smart to anoint himself the next – and the last – messiah. Nicely done, Mo! :-)

        • RoHa says:

          “He was very smart to anoint himself the next – and the last – messiah.”

          Of course, Baha’u’llah says Muhammad was the last of the series. The Bab and he kick off the new series.

        • eljay says:

          >>> Of course, Baha’u’llah says Muhammad was the last of the series. The Bab and he kick off the new series.

          Why…that’s a miracle!! 8-o

          ;-)

      • Frankie P says:

        @eljay,

        You attribute the constant spin and manipulation of PR exercised by western and Israeli politicians to Nasrallah in saying that his faith is Abrahamic. He claims that there is only one “god” and one truth, and that we’re one big happy family, but he never said anything about abandoning faith. I see this man as speaking from his heart without the need to manipulate his audience. He sees the truth as enough of a weapon; he doesn’t need nor want spin. It goes against his grain. He has always done so, and it’s not surprising that when he makes a public speech that is videotaped, Israelis watch it to learn the truth that is not forthcoming from their own politicians.

        FPM

        • eljay says:

          >> Frankie P @ April 18, 2012 at 7:54 pm

          This is not intended as a flame, but I honestly have no idea what your point is.

          Nesrallah’s reply to the question about freeing people from the hegemony of religion was that we’re all part of one big happy family under one paternal god (my paraphrasing). That’s all very nice, but you won’t see him accepting any religion other than Islam as the “correct” religion, or Allah as the “correct” (interpretation of) “god”. No surprise there.

          So, my point was simply that while his proclamation sounded very nice, it was nothing more than PR. He was right to employ it, but it’s nothing to get excited about.

        • do you think he knew assange was going to ask him that? don’t religious people all believe their religion is the way to god?

          encouraging Muslims to abandon Islam and embrace Judaism

          do any religious people do that? encourage people of their own religion to abandon it and embrace another religion? i have never really heard of that. do christians do that? jews?

        • eljay says:

          >> do you think he knew assange was going to ask him that? don’t religious people all believe their religion is the way to god?

          No, I don’t think he anticipated the question and, yes, I’m pretty sure that all religious people believe that their religion is the way to god. That’s why I commented that, IMO, his describing himself as part of the “Abrahamic” tradition was nothing more than PR.

          >> do any religious people do that? encourage people of their own religion to abandon it and embrace another religion? i have never really heard of that. do christians do that? jews?

          No, I don’t believe that religious people – Jews, Christians or Muslims – generally encourage people of their faith to abandon it and embrace other religions. That’s why I said that, IMO, Nesrallah’s claim was nothing more than PR. It was good PR, but nothing to get excited about.

          Really, my comment was just a pretty straightforward observation. It should not be a revelation in any way or to anyone.

        • sorry eljay, i wasn’t sure your meaning before, off my radar. i didn’t pick up on the reference to abrahamic as being unusual, but then i don’t follow what normal religious references are. i did notice assange used the term monotheism when asking the question.

        • Frankie P says:

          @eljay,

          Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment. I wasn’t flaming you either, I just thought that you were attributing Nasrallah’s statements as spin to please his audience:

          “nothing more than a nice little bit of PR”

          I agree that religious people, especially leaders, never encourage people of their faith to embrace other faiths. It would be a contradiction, as they see their faith as the true path to God. That said, I don’t think that Nasrallah panders to the audience in this, or any other interview. His statements are thought out and heartfelt.

          FPM

        • Saleema says:

          eljay,

          We are part of the Abrahamic tradition, whether you believe it or not does not change that for us. We are not saying that to please the Christians or the Jews. Except for some interfaith circles, the Jews and the Christians have always rejected us as being part of that continued tradition, as do many atheists, and others. However, it doesn’t put a dent in our belief that we are indeed the children of Abraham, spiritual and otherwise.

          Abraham is no minor figure in the Quran. He’s the “Friend of God,” and very near and dear to Muslim hearts. I don’t really understand your dismissive attitude about what Abraham means to us. We believe Abraham was a “Muslim,” not a Jew, not a Christian, not a founder of a “new religion.” He was a Muslim like others before him were too, who believed in One God. He has more prominence because his progeny really spread across the Earth. A Muslim doesn’t encourage believers to convert to Judaism or Christianity because we believe that the Jews and then the Christians brought changes to God’s religion and altered the book, so reverting back to the “original” Abrahamic faith would be going backwards and accepting those changes that corrupted the Word of God.

          I hope that explains that it’s not a PR stunt when we say that we indeed have a very real spiritual connection with Abrahim (may Allah bless him).

        • Taxi says:

          Eljay,

          Arabs making reference to their “Abrahamic” faith is the norm in Arab countries – it’s no “PR” spin my dear. Abraham, after all, IS their grandfather.

          Islam embraces both judaism and christianity. Moses is a most beloved prophet to them – which is why many Arabs name their sons, Mousa (Moses in Arabic). They also recognize jesus as a most lofty prophet – yes they reject the idea that he is the ‘son of god’ cuz they don’t believe god is inclined to procreating through a human womb – but they do actually pay serious homage to him and to his mother, Mary, often calling their sons ‘Eessa’ (Eessa is Arabic for Jesus) and Mariam (Mariam is Arabic for Mary). In fact many Lebanese moslems carry the surname Issa too. I’ve actually met a guy called Mohammad Issa – that would be: Mohammad Jesus, in English.

        • ToivoS says:

          Saleema I think we are in at least 99% agreement. You talk about one God as the true God. That is good. When Abraham pushed that notion, which Jews, Christians and Muslims seem to accept there were dozens of deities competing for acceptance. Throw in the Egyptian and Greek deities as well as the Sumerian and Akkadian religions than I think we can accept that those middle eastern peoples from 2 to 4 thousand years ago believed in many Gods. This is not to mention the many Gods my ancestors believed in during those times (Viking and Finno-Ugrian people). There have to be at least 100 Gods here if not a thousand.

          As an atheist myself we are in at least 99% if not 99.9% agreement. We both have rejected 99 or 999 Gods. As for myself I have rejected just one more than you have. Shouldn’t that be a sound basis for all of us to get along without more war to solve this 1% or .1% misunderstanding.

        • Walid says:

          “Abraham is no minor figure in the Quran. He’s the “Friend of God,” and very near and dear to Muslim hearts.”

          “friend of God” in Arabic is “al-Khalil”. Al-Khalil is also the Arabic name for the city of Hebron, where about 500 Zionists are making life miserable for 175,000 Palestinians. Crazy numbers.

        • Walid says:

          “they don’t believe god is inclined to procreating through a human womb”

          Although the Quran denies any paternal connection between God and Jesus, it does acknowledge the virgin birth of Jesus.

        • Walid says:

          “You attribute the constant spin and manipulation of PR exercised by western and Israeli politicians to Nasrallah … ”

          Frankie, here’s one side of Nasrallah you’ll never hear about in the western press; it’s his sermon against the use of drugs, especially against selling it to the Israelis as it’s claimed in Israel as this is forbidden in Islam. This contrasts with Israelis that poison water wells of Palestinians. At the 8th minute mark, he describes in a funny way how Israelis discovered a poisonous fish and named it “Nasrallah”.

        • Walid says:

          “So, my point was simply that while his proclamation sounded very nice, it was nothing more than PR. He was right to employ it, but it’s nothing to get excited about.”

          Eljay, you appear to be the only Zionist to not be excited about the man. From Haretz a couple of years back:

          “Hezbollah chief’s speeches sway Israeli opinion more than any Arab leader

          Hassan Nasrallah is the first Arab leader in 30 years to affect the Israeli public through his rhetoric, according to military intelligence report.

          By Amos Harel

          … Nasrallah’s speeches were widely covered in Israel during the 2006 war and drew harsh responses from senior political and military officials. Ronen says the rhetoric and content of the speeches were influenced by Nasrallah’s understanding of the development of the war, based on information from the field. He argues that had Israeli decision makers analyzed these speeches in real time it could have altered the course of the war.

          The main term that Nasrallah repeated throughout the war in his speeches was “sumud,” Arabic for “standing firm” or “steadfastness.” Ronen says that Nasrallah’s rhetoric was aimed at supporting and strengthening the “steadfastness” in terms of social unity and solidarity among the Lebanese; among the Hezbollah combatants and the Shi’ite civilian population; and in the context of deterring Israeli attacks.

          Nasrallah focused on what he took to be proof of the IDF’s weakness. He prided himself on “surprises” such as the missile assault on an Israel Navy destroyer and tried to create a deterrent against an Israeli ground offensive. Israel’s weakness, as Nasrallah saw it, was its concern about the economic damage and the loss of human life in Israel resulting from Hezbollah rockets.

          “The Israelis are interested in blood and money,” Nasrallah said in one speech.”

          link to haaretz.com

        • eljay says:

          >> I don’t really understand your dismissive attitude about what Abraham means to us. We believe Abraham was a “Muslim,” not a Jew … A Muslim doesn’t encourage believers to convert to Judaism or Christianity because we believe that the Jews and then the Christians brought changes to God’s religion and altered the book, so reverting back to the “original” Abrahamic faith would be going backwards and accepting those changes that corrupted the Word of God.

          I do understand what Abraham means to you. In the above paragraph, you have encapsulated it perfectly.

          My original point – made in reference to CloakAndDagger’s comment that Nasrallah “ … even talked about his faith being an Abrahamic one – which is a unifying rather than divisive concept … ” – was merely to point out that Nasrallah’s description of his faith as an Abrahamic one is nothing new, nothing surprising, and nothing to get too excited about.

          And that was it. :-)

        • eljay says:

          >> Eljay, you appear to be the only Zionist to not be excited about the man.

          I’m a Zionist now? This is news to me.

        • Saleema says:

          Are people fighting over God? That’s news to me. I think people fight over resources, people fight for power and people fight because their greed can’t be satiated. I have no problem with atheists. To you, your way, and to me, mine.

        • The main term that Nasrallah repeated throughout the war in his speeches was “sumud,” Arabic for “standing firm” or “steadfastness.” Ronen says that Nasrallah’s rhetoric was aimed at supporting and strengthening the “steadfastness” in terms of social unity and solidarity among the Lebanese;

          i don’t have any recollection of the msm here covering any of nasrallah’s speeches. i remember that highly anticipated speech he was going to make involving the israeli spy ring they busted implicating israel in the death of hariri and then israel did some tree triming on the border the morning of the speech and all hell broke loose. the speech was delayed. but it think i watched part of it, although there may have been subtitles there was no translator.

        • Sumud says:

          Eljay, you appear to be the only Zionist to not be excited about the man.

          Walid, I think you have yours wires crossed. Eljay is most definitely *not* a zionist.

        • My original point – made in reference to CloakAndDagger’s comment that Nasrallah “ … even talked about his faith being an Abrahamic one – which is a unifying rather than divisive concept … ” – was merely to point out that Nasrallah’s description of his faith as an Abrahamic one is nothing new, nothing surprising, and nothing to get too excited about.

          Didn’t want to get into this debate, however, my sense from watching that video was that it was a statement from someone with convictions about its veracity rather than PR.

          I certainly left with the sense that his utterances were those of a charismatic leader, rather than those of someone using words to create a false illusion or spin.

        • Walid says:

          “Walid, I think you have yours wires crossed. Eljay is most definitely *not* a zionist.”

          Apologies to Eljay for the insult. Haven’t been paying attention lately and mixing up the good guys with the bad ones.

        • eljay says:

          >> Didn’t want to get into this debate, however, my sense from watching that video was that it was a statement from someone with convictions about its veracity rather than PR.
          >> I certainly left with the sense that his utterances were those of a charismatic leader, rather than those of someone using words to create a false illusion or spin.

          Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. :-)

        • eljay says:

          >> Apologies to Eljay for the insult.

          No worries. Believe it or not, I’ve been called worse! ;-)

        • Sumud says:

          Haven’t been paying attention lately and mixing up the good guys with the bad ones.

          It’s all the white noise: there has been an influx of ziobots lately. That, and eljay’s bone dry sense of humour lends itself to misinterpretation…

        • piotr says:

          Actually, the “Abrahamic” part is very important in Islam, hence popularity of Muslim names like Daud or Ibrahim. Arabs use Torah to argue that Ibrahim is their ancestor. Ayyub (peace be upon him), i.e. Job, is a Muslim paragon of piety and submission to Allah.

          Similarly, Miriam mother of Isa is a cited example of a virtuous woman, and Shiah (like Nasrallah) use a verse from Quran that praises Miriam and refers to her face as a proof that covering of female faces is not required by Quran but instead is a Wahhabi superstition.

        • Walid says:

          “… i remember that highly anticipated speech he was going to make involving the israeli spy ring they busted implicating israel in the death of hariri and then israel did some tree triming on the border the morning of the speech and all hell broke loose. the speech was delayed. ”

          Annie, it was a press conference in 2010, very long (2.5 hours), very technical and naming names and places that would probably be meaningless to you. In a nutshell, the first hour covers how Israel had set up HB to take the fall from as early as 4 years before the actual assassination up to the time it happened and the Israeli PR machine went into overdrive in accusing HB of having done it.

          The second hour describes the complex network of spies Israel had set up within Lebanon’s cell phone networks that were instrumental in framing HB’s circumstantial involvement in the assassination and how HB had been hacking into Israel’s video drone transmissions for years, how HB caught an Israeli drone transmission of a video tracing Hariri’s route that he took on the day he was asassinated and how at the moment of the assassination, an Israeli drone and AWAC were in the sky over Beirut and Israel refused to provide details of the flights to the UN investigators (some experts believe Hariri was killed by a satellite-guided missile fired from a drone).

          It was from such hacking of drone transmissions that HB got wind of a planned Israeli landing in Lebanon a few years before the Hariri assassination, laid a trap and succeeded in killing about a dozen invading commandos. The released HB video of the planned by drone mission and of the actual botched mission are now the subject of a claim against their government by Israeli families of the killed commandos as they had been lied to about how the commandos had died. They had been told that the commandos died in an accident. BTW, most HB members are fully fluent in Hebrew. If any non-Zionist had to venture a guess on whodunit, based on track records of which party is in the habit of assassinating people and stood to gain most by the assassination, he’d easily pick Israel.

          If you want to watch the English-dubbed video:

      • Walid says:

        Eljay, for a little while back in 2006, Israelis believed him more than their own leaders. From YNet:

        Poll: Israelis believed Nasrallah over Peretz

        Polls conducted by Dr. Udi Lebel, political psychology lecturer, found sad picture of Israeli PR

        Anat Breshkovsky Published: 09.03.06, 16:38 / Israel News

        During the poll, entitled “the management of Israeli PR during the second Lebanon war,” members of six groups were asked to watch video recordings of Israeli PR in Israel and abroad, and to answer questions. Lebel says he held polls in the past on issues of strategic press, political psychology, and army-media relations. The result of his latest poll show that Israeli PR was so lacking, that in my cases the public was forced to rely on the reports of Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah…”

        link to ynetnews.com

  5. Frankie P says:

    Contrast Nasrallah’s sane, rational analysis and his goals of protecting his country and facilitating human and civil rights for the people of Palestine with the hate speech and warmongering of Bibi Netanyahu. Remind me now, who is the terrorist?

    FPM

  6. HarryLaw says:

    I have watched Nasrallah speak on many occasions on press tv he comes across as a very knowledgeable and well read Leader he is an avid reader of the Western press and therefore can predict their machinations. He is admired throughout the Arab World he is simply a defender of Lebanese sovereignty and Palestinian freedom and for both stances I fully support him. If that does not comply with US/UK Law I say to those Lawmakers GoFYSelves

  7. marc b. says:

    the nty piece is just crap. it’s not even clever crap, just catty, juvenile garbage. speaking of which, what’s with the ‘journalist’ a.stanley? she goes from moscow and rome bureau chief, to ‘television critic’? now there’s a promotion. as if television needs a critic. tv has long ago ‘jumped the shark’, turning itself inside out in a meta-parody, climbing up its own *ss. stick to poorly written ‘mad men’ reviews, a.stanley, where no one gets hurt when you don’t know what the eff you’re talking about.

    • she goes from moscow and rome bureau chief, to ‘television critic’?

      who knows, maybe they grabbed her to write this hit piece and wanted to stash it under ‘television’. it was pathetic.

  8. calm says:

    I thought his comparison between media coverage of Syrian conflict and the Israel-Palestinian conflict was quite good.

    …. That the U.S. media all appeared to be breathless with a sense of urgency towards the protests in Syria because so many people were being injured/killed while the Israel-Palestine conflict has been happening for 40 years.

    Everytime I view Anderson Cooper, I will think of this comparison.

    Calm

  9. Les says:

    A great comment made a minute ago on WBAI’s Off the Hook program. RT’s coverage of Occupy Wall Street is good as is the New York Times coverage of protests in Russia. What a great thing it would be if Russians could have the Times coverage of their protests substituted for what they get now and if Americans could have the RT coverage of Occupy Wall Street substituted for what we get now.

  10. dbroncos says:

    Hezbollah has been accused many times of the Beirut barracks bombings, 1983. Never proved. Hezb has also been accused of bombing a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires. Also never proved. These bombings are cited over and over as the primary reasons why Hezb is named a “terrorist organization.” Where’s the proof? Argentina botched the investigation (the bomber’s head was thrown in the dumpster). In 2007, 14 years after the bombing, American congressman, Mario Cafiero, felt compelled to weigh in with a verdict. He cited the testimony of two members of the Peoples Mujahedin of Iran (MEK) as proof of Iran’s involvment. The MEK rings some bells, no? Still nothing solid connecting Hezb to the bombings in Buenos Aires and Beirut. Yet our reps and the MSM blithely state it as fact that Hezb is responsible. Is there anything else Hezb has done to earn its spot on the US “terror”
    list? As far as I can tell, Nusrallah has a well earned rep as the leader of an organization whose only crime is effectively fighting the IDF, and kicking them out of Lebannon.

  11. dbroncos says:

    Several years ago, there was a group of Presbyterians travelling in the Levant on a ‘fact finding’ mission ahead of their recommendation to divest from Israel. One of their members was ‘caught’ saying that the group received a warmer welcome from Hezbollah reps in Lebannon than they did from their Israeli hosts. Well! The outrage! This case of bias towards a “terrorist organization” threw cold water on their divestment plans. I’ve seen it reported more recently here on MW that a Presbyterian divestment is moving forward.

  12. gingershot says:

    Amazing interview – I wonder when Terry Gross is going to interview Nasrallah on NPR?

    But then Terry Gross would actually be being of service to the American people to counteract the pervasive trance of Israeli Media Mafia instead of being an enabler

  13. Great article by Philip Giraldi about the Hezbollah “sleeper cells” in the US:

    link to original.antiwar.com

  14. Mayhem says:

    Has anybody considered that a dialogue with Assad might be pointless?

    • i’m sure the empire has concluded just that actually, if they count as ‘anyone’.

      • Izik says:

        I have no qualms with you supporting Iran, Hamas, Assad, Hezbollah, Moscow and any force that presents itself as ‘anti-Imperialist’. What’s devious here is your adoption of “rights speech”. You use a vocabulary of justice and rights, but you end up aligning yourself with the most backward forces in this world.

        • Shingo says:

          You use a vocabulary of justice and rights, but you end up aligning yourself with the most backward forces in this world.

          There’s nothing backward about resisting occupation or imperialism.

        • Izik says:

          There is definitely something backward about supporting those who enforce Shari’a law and use suicide bombers and rockets to murder civilians.

          You don’t need to support Israel, but your so-called struggle for Human rights would have far more credibility if you condemned religious oppression in Muslim countries as you do settler violence against Palestinians.

          This Nasrallah you admire so much is considered a terrorist by the west, and supports enforcing Shar’ia on his own people.

        • rockets to murder civilians

          squack squack..and what about drill props?

          link to mondoweiss.net

        • Walid says:

          “This Nasrallah you admire so much is considered a terrorist by the west, and supports enforcing Shar’ia on his own people.”

          No he doesn’t enforce anything on anybody, Izik, as a Shia, he’s more into the Walayat al-Fakih of Ayatollah Khamenei (as in Iran) and has declared that although it’s his first choice, Lebanon’s 17 different Christian and Muslim sects make it impossible to be applied there so he is perfectly happy with Lebanon’s current form of government and wouldn’t want to see it changed.

        • izz: The world cannot be explained with kindergarten reductionism.

          ;)

        • Izik says:

          Yet, you did not provide a material response. Why do you side with all the primitive forces, just on their basis of being “anti-Imperialist”? You despise Mubarrek, but adore Assad. You admire Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas, although all of these forces advocate a very oppressive religious school of thought.

        • Walid says:

          “You admire Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas, although all of these forces advocate a very oppressive religious school of thought.”

          Izik, you have lots of misconceptions about what’s really happening. Nothing oppressive about them eventhough I don’t agree with some of their religious thoughts. The majority of Iranians voted for the current government, the majority of Palestinian voters wanted Hamas and the majority of Lebanon’s Shia voted for Hizbullah and the majority of other Muslims and the Christians there (which makes it about 75% of the country) are with Hizbullah on its positions against Israel. Where do you see the oppression?

        • Izik says:

          I wonder whether your friends also believe that Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah are “non-oppressive”. It would show once and for all that they are not fighting for human rights, but rather, against them.

        • Shingo says:

          I wonder whether your friends also believe that Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah are “non-oppressive”.

          No more so than Israel, and none of them are fascist, brutal occupiers.

          It would show once and for all that they are not fighting for human rights, but rather, against them.

          Human rights have always suffered during war and occupation. These groups at least have the excuse that they are resisting occupation.

          Israel has never fought for human rights under any circumstances.

      • Mayhem says:

        I am soliciting the opinion of the Mondoweiss coterie. Would you make a deal with a Sadaam Hussein. Mubarek, Gaddafi or Ben Ali? Would you grant legitimacy to a despot who has murdered thousands of his own people?

        • Walid says:

          “I am soliciting the opinion of the Mondoweiss coterie. Would you make a deal with a Sadaam Hussein. Mubarek, Gaddafi or Ben Ali? Would you grant legitimacy to a despot who has murdered thousands of his own people?”

          The coterie wouldn’t, but the US, the UK. France and Israel sure did. With all of them.

        • Shingo says:

          Would you grant legitimacy to a despot who has murdered thousands of his own people?

          You mean like Mubarak?

        • MarkF says:

          “Would you make a deal with a Sadaam Hussein. Mubarek, Gaddafi or Ben Ali? Would you grant legitimacy to a despot who has murdered thousands of his own people?”

          Nope, but hey, I wouldn’t need to. I would high-tail it out of the ME because I don’t live there, I don’t belong there, and I don’t want relations with them.

          But you come to the table with the neocon view of the world that has caused so much murder and “mayhem” in that area of the world, which states we have the right to invade and occupy ME countries to spread democracy. (so much for Christian just-war theory)

          You fail your own litmus test. Afterall, we, the U.S., have slaughtered tens of thousands of Iraqis, and I’m sure you would ‘make a deal’ with the U.S.

        • Kathleen says:

          Bush and Cheney sending American soldiers off to Iraq based on a “pack of lies”

        • Would you grant legitimacy to a despot who has murdered thousands of his own people?

          didn’t abraham lincoln do that?

          ROTFL

          just joking!

          sorry sorry, my sick soh is running away with me. i will stop now.

        • lyn117 says:

          Now here’s something I don’t understand – why is it worse for a despot to murder “thousands of his own people” than for some Israeli generals to murder 10s of thousands of people they considers less than fully human, in the process of ridding territory his state claims of those people they considers undesirable?

    • Shingo says:

      Has anybody considered that a dialogue with Assad might be pointless?

      No. Assad has accepted a ceasefire. The resistance has rejectected it.

      • Mayhem says:

        No. Assad has accepted a ceasefire. The resistance has rejectected it.

        From link to rt.com
        In a written report to the Security Council on Wednesday UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said the Syrian government had failed to send “clear signs” that they were complying with the peace plan.

        “The Syrian Government has yet to fully implement its initial obligations regarding the actions and deployments of its troops, or to return them to barracks,” he wrote in the letter.

        @Shingo: Why do you support Assad? He should be offering to resign; this ‘agreeing’ with a cease-fire now after he has managed to slaughter 1000s of Syrians is a last desperate tactic to hold on to power. Do you like him because he is a good model of a rabid anti-Israel demagogue like his partner in crime Nasrallah?

        • mayhem is excited about another libya.

          Xinhua reports from Damascus, Syria: Head of UN observers denies coming under fire in Damascus’ suburb

          Head of the UN advance observer team to Syria denied that his team came under fire in one of the hotspot suburbs of Syria’s capital Damascus on Wednesday.

          Speaking to reporters after finishing a tour in the Damascus suburb of Arbeen, Moroccan Col. Ahmed Himmiche said that his team didn’t come under fire there, …

          link to moonofalabama.org

          more from Xinhua (photos: “U.N. observers leave the Sheraton Hotel in Damascus, Syria, on April 18, 2012. The seven-
          man team, according to International envoy Kofi Annan’s spokesman, arrived in Damascus late
          Sunday to monitor Syria’s 4-day-old cease-fire.(Xinhua/Hazim)

          “We are going to do our best to accomplish our mission and our task,” he said, adding that “in order to establish this liaison, we need time and trust… we need to build confidence with all the parties in order to achieve our task.”

          On Tuesday, the UN team visited Syria’s southern province of Daraa, which is the birthplace of the domestic unrest in Syria.

          Earlier in the day, Himmiche said the number of observers is now seven and would reach 30 within a couple of days. He said that his mission is “technical,” and that their work is moving on ” normally so far.”

          The advance team of UN observers arrived in Damascus on Sunday night to monitor the implementation of a cease-fire which was brokered by the UN-Arab League joint special envoy Kofi Annan and went into effect last Thursday.

          Their arrival came a day after the UN Security Council unanimously approved the observer mission. The advance team will be followed by other batches of observers and the total number of monitors may eventually reach 250.

        • eljay says:

          Clinton on BBC: “Alqaeda, Hamas supporting Syria opposition.”
          >> On a February 26th BBC interview, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton admitted that Alqaeda, Hamas and other global US-labeled terrorist organizations were on the same side as USA official policy, supporting the opposition in Syria.

          Al-Qaeda infiltrating Syrian opposition, U.S. officials say
          >> Two bombings in Damascus in December, as well as deadly attacks on security and intelligence buildings in Aleppo last week, “had all the earmarks of an al-Qaeda-like attack,” Clapper said, adding that the network’s affiliate in Iraq “is extending its reach into Syria.”

          @Mayhem: Why do you support Al-Qaeda and Hamas?

        • Mayhem says:

          @eljay: The world cannot be explained with kindergarten reductionism. it is not just a contest between goodies and baddies. The opposition in Syria is riddled with questionable elements as it was in Libya.
          Anything is better right now than allowing Assad to continue with his brutal slaughter which has been supported by the likes of Ahmadinejad and Chavez.

        • Walid says:

          “Clinton on BBC: “Alqaeda, Hamas supporting Syria opposition.”

          It became obvious when they closed shop in Damascus and opened in Doha.

        • Walid says:

          “mayhem is excited about another libya.”

          So is France, Annie. While Syria won’t let in more than 250 observers, Moon over the UN wants 300 and Sarkozy keeps asking for a humanitarian corridor (like the one France and NATO set up for Libya). There are now over 200,000 displaced Syrians in addition to the already existing 400,000 displaced Syrians from the Golan since 1967 but nobody gives a damn about these. Sarkozy probably never heard about these 400,000 refugees because it has something to do with Israel.

        • eljay says:

          >> @eljay: The world cannot be explained with kindergarten reductionism.

          And yet you do this all the time when it comes to Israel and the I/P conflict: Jews are good! Arabs are bad and they hate Jews! Jews have a Biblical right to the land! Israel is entitled to self-defence! “Remember the Holocaust!”

          Too funny.

        • Daniel Rich says:

          Assad = Net-an-yahoo
          Syrian Freedom Fighters = Palestinians

          Take it from there.

        • this totally cracks me up. i can’t stop laughing reading some of this back n forth. izzie and mayhem are such lil tag teamers trying to catch themselves a big fish! why do you support sharia and pot pol? then walid says, he doesn’t support sharia (walid, you can’t fall for these traps) and mayhem shushes him up quiet! stay out of it, i am trying to engage the coterie! and then eljay reminds us it been reported for months AQ has been mixed with the opposition (more on that updated here, like everybody knows already): link to foreignpolicy.com and then asks @Mayhem: Why do you support Al-Qaeda and Hamas?

          and what does he say?!!!!!

          @eljay: The world cannot be explained with kindergarten reductionism.

          !!!!!!!!

          i have to remember that line the next time izzie asked me why i support big binny, oh no he’s dead he doesn’t count. it’s kim i love!!

          The world cannot be explained with kindergarten reductionism

          okay, i am going to go try it upthread.

          edit: how’d i do? link to mondoweiss.net

        • Izik says:

          “then walid says, he doesn’t support sharia (walid, you can’t fall for these traps)”

          LOL. Even a superficial knowledge of Hezbollah should introduce you to the fact that they wish to impose a religious, Islamic regime. Do you not find the persecution of gays, notion of dhimihood and other backward religious elements, a negative thing?

          It seems that you lack a moral spine.

          From the Hezbollah charter (the 1985 open letter)
          “Allah has also made it intolerable for Muslims to participate in an unjust
          regime, unjust for you and for us, in a regime which is not predicated upon the
          prescriptions (ahkam) of religion and upon the basis of the Law (the Shari’a) as laid
          down by Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets.

        • Shingo says:

          Even a superficial knowledge of Hezbollah should introduce you to the fact that they wish to impose a religious, Islamic regime.

          While there is no dispute your knowledge of Hezbollah us superficial, those who know anything about Hezbollah know fir a fact that they have no desire to impose Sharoah Law.

          Do you not find the persecution of gays, notion of dhimihood and other backward religious elements, a negative thing?

          Gays are not mentioned anywhere in the Likud Charter or Israel’s declaration of independence.

          Hezbollah’s charter mentions nothing about imposing Shariah on Lebanon.

        • Walid says:

          You’re superficial, Izik, latching on to only 2% of a document intended as an anti-US, anti-Israel, anti-USSR and anti everything manifesto written shortly after the Iranian revolution, Sabra-Shatila and the horrible Israeli occupation of south Lebanon. Had you been on the receiving end of Israel’s horrors during the occupation like being held at the mini-Auschwitzes Israel ran at the Ansar concentration and torture camp and at Khiam, you would have written a more bitter document. Here’s a small sample:

          “The sadism of the Israeli guards at Ansar rivaled the SS of World War 11. Prisoners were forced to “bark like the dogs you are” and to shout Long live Begin, long live Sharon.” The Israelis pulled into the jaws of Ansar every male Palestinian in Lebanon they could get their hands on. “There appeared to be virtually no Palestinian men between the ages of 16 to 60 left free in southern Lebanon.” One of these prisoners, who was held in Ansar for 155 days, testified that prisoners were laid “on special tables that have holds for legs and arms,” and then beaten with sticks and iron rods. He saw deaths as the result of torture. The bodies of seven young men killed in an Israeli detention camp near Sidon in the early weeks of the invasion were found with hands tied and signs of having been beaten to death by an Israeli guard. One Lebanese witness saw a prisoner beaten to death by an Israeli guard. (30)

          A Lebaneseprisoner in Ansar testifies that “prisoners were interrogated while being beaten with heavy clubs.” The most severe beatings were reserved for teachers, businessmen, students and journalists. These “interrogation sessions” lasted from ten minutes to half a day at a time, according to the whims of the interrogator-torturers. Prisoners were forced to sleep on the ground, without blankets in the cold nights. Some were sent to other camps in Israel. There prisoners were attacked by guard dogs, and those who tried to defend themselves from being bitten by these vicious dogs were beaten by their Israeli captors.

          Many prisoners were beaten with iron bars on the genitals, on the hands, and on the soles of the feet. One had four fingers broken. This man was hung by his feet “and they used me as a punching bag,” he testified. When prisoners begged for water they were given urine to drink. Prisoners were forced to run like cattle while being beaten with clubs. Once they were made to sit for a solid week, most of the time with hands on their heads.

          The worst times were Friday night and Saturday, when the guards celebrated the Jewish Sabbath by getting drunk and selecting some prisoners for special punishment, “to the accompaniment of laughter, full of hate.” (31)

          … The Israelis themselves have provided testimony to their barbaric behavior in Lebanon and to their aggressive designs on that country. ”

          Noam Chomsky also wrote about the Israeli horrors committed at Ansar. If the above is not gory enough for you; read the rest of it at:
          link to palestine-encyclopedia.com

        • eljay says:

          >> Many prisoners were beaten with iron bars on the genitals, on the hands, and on the soles of the feet. One had four fingers broken. This man was hung by his feet “and they used me as a punching bag,” he testified. When prisoners begged for water they were given urine to drink. Prisoners were forced to run like cattle while being beaten with clubs. Once they were made to sit for a solid week, most of the time with hands on their heads.

          Yes, but, you see: Jewish state. The only democracy in the Middle East. Not as bad as Iran or Iraq or Syria. The Holocaust. The homeland of the Jewish people. Jerusalem! AhmaHitlerjad. Wipe Israel off the map. Self-determination. Make the desert bloom. Why do they hate us for our freedoms?!

          Anyway, it’s a good thing they dealt with those prisoners the way they did. Otherwise, they might have become cyclists and REALLY threatened that immoral, oppressive, colonialist, expansionist, religion-supremacist, floating pee-stain of a state.

    • down with dialogue!

  15. OlegR says:

    Ah yes the body parts dealer form Lebanon finally crawled out from underneath the
    rock he is hiding since 2006 and gave an interview.

  16. Walid says:

    Oleg, I would have thought that you guys are too embarrassed to talk about body parts; have you already forgotten about the revelations in the Swedish papers about Israel’s coroner dealing in Palestinian and Israeli body parts with Israel’s universities even after having been convicted of the same crime a few years ago?

    About Hizbullah dealing in body parts, regettably it’s true but it’s a practice they learned from Israelis that started it years and years before Hizbullah started doing it. Look at all the bodies of Lebanese it had been keeping since over 30 years for that specific purpose.

    Most despicable among Israel’s actions in 2006, was having abandoned fallen Israeli soldiers in Lebanon because they were preoccupied with dragging across the Israeli border cadavres of fallen Hizbullah fighters to use in future trades. Those abandoned Israeli bodies and parts of other ones were used in the trade for Kuntar. You’d find more Mengele types in Israel than in Lebanon. Along with the dead Hizbullah bodies it took back to Israel, it captured an old ex-Hizbullah fighter suffering from schizophrenia that it kept in captivity for over a year in spite of the Red Cross having provided Israel with the sick man’s medical records. One can only guess what the Israelis did with him or to him during the year. Israel has a track record.

    • long track record. i’m with walid on this oleg, you sure you want to go there. we can talk about the lawsuit, the israeli insurance company who got caught paying for all those illegal transplants down in south africa..where the israelis would fly down there to get operations ..my memory is a little rusty but it was in all the major news outlets, the ones in africa anyway. the body parts came from poor people, alive poor people.

      you guys must be really desperate to drag body part dealers into this conversation.

      • OlegR says:

        You are forgetting the christian babies blood for pesah matza Annie come on…

        But please do continue praising Said Nasrallah it really reveals your moral world view or the lack of it to be precise.
        I guess there must be some hidden bug in the liberal left ideology that makes you go time and again and praise guys like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,
        Kim er Sung and now Nasrallah (not that i compare he is small time)

        • MarkF says:

          “I guess there must be some hidden bug in the liberal left ideology that makes you go time and again and praise guys like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,
          Kim er Sung and now Nasrallah”

          I guess there must be some hidden bug in the conservative right ideology that makes you go time and again and praise guys like Hitler, Trotsky, Neo-nazis,
          David Duke and now Breivik.

        • OlegR says:

          Trotsky was from the conservative right?
          OMFG
          LOL
          Faints…

        • ToivoS says:

          Oleg pretends to know something:

          Trotsky was from the conservative right?
          OMFG
          LOL
          Faints…

          But what she seems unaware of is that Trotsky was mentor to many of the founders of the neocon movement here in the US. You try hard Oleg but your knowledge base is just a little too deficient to play with us.

        • and i’ve never even heard of Kim er Sung.

        • RoHa says:

          “and i’ve never even heard of Kim er Sung”

          “Kim” seems to be the most common surname in Korea, so there probably is a Korean who has forgotten part of his name.

          “My surname in Kim, and Sung is the second part of my given name, but dammit, I just can’t remember what the first bit was.”

        • Daniel Rich says:

          @ RoHa,

          You’re right. When I yelled ‘Hey, Kim!’ in Seoul last year, a whole mob of angry faces wasn’t amused at all.

    • OlegR says:

      /Oleg, I would have thought that you guys are too embarrassed to talk about body parts; have you already forgotten about the revelations in the Swedish papers about Israel’s coroner dealing in Palestinian and Israeli body parts with Israel’s universities even after having been convicted of the same crime a few years ago?/

      Owhh blood libels Walid an oldie but a goodie.

      • Walid says:

        The blood libel is being pushed by Haaretz in 2010:

        Israel police uncovers organ trafficking ring in north

        Six men arrested, among them an IDF brigadier-general and two lawyers; woman was reportedly offered $100,000 for kidney.

        By Jack Khoury and Eli Ashkenazi

        Police on Tuesday arrested six men suspected of being involved in an organ trafficking ring in northern Israel. Among the suspects are an IDF reserves brigadier-general and two lawyers.

        The department for fraud and misappropriation in northern Israel has been conducting an undercover investigation which began following a complaint by a 50-year-old woman from Nazareth, who replied to an advertisement in Arabic offering 100,000 dollars for a kidney.

        The woman underwent medical examinations to ensure a match, and she was then flown a country in Eastern Europe where they extracted her kidney. The woman said that when she returned to Israel, she did not receive the money promised to her. Police say they have since received similar complaints.

        Police also said that during the investigation they uncovered a large, very well-organized industry of organ trafficking. The ring includes organ traffickers, agents, and lawyers.

        “The ring is operating throughout Israel and not only in the north, and appeals to the public through local media and internet,” a police official said. “The organ traffickers somehow receive details about potential transplant candidates and they offer them their services,” he said.

        Full article
        link to haaretz.com

      • Chu says:

        Selling of body parts is quite a weak point to argue, because when it blows up in your face you ‘re using the slanderous ‘blood libel’. You shouldn’t bring it up if it damages your argument. It’s like you don’t have a leg to stand on.

      • MarkF says:

        “Owhh blood libels Walid an oldie but a goodie.”

        Actually, blood libel is against Jews. Walid is talking about Israelis. Us American Jews tend not to do the things Israelis do.

        • Walid says:

          “Us American Jews tend not to do the things Israelis do.”

          I’m sure you and American Jews don’t, Mark.

          As to the body parts that Oleg is refusing to accept, full essay on the subject including details on Israel’s chief pathologist involved in the business, Yehuda Hiss that also had a hand in covering up the missing Yemeni babies stories, and Zaki Shapira that had to relocate his harvesting business elsewhere. From the American Israel-watching organization, WRMEA:

          “… a lecture last year sponsored by New York’s PBS 13 Forum, Scheper-Hughes explained that Israeli organ traffickers, “had and still have a pyramid system at work that’s awesome…they have brokers everywhere, bank accounts everywhere; they’ve got recruiters, they’ve got translators, they’ve got travel agents who set up the visas.”

          Lest this sound simply like a successful international concern, it’s important to understand the nature of such a business.

          As Scheper-Hughes describes it, organ trafficking consists of “paying the poor and the hungry to slowly dismantle their bodies.”

          link to wrmea.com

      • ToivoS says:

        This is downright weird. Oleg brings up body parts trading. Seems totally oblivious to the sordid history Israelis involved in all sorts for body parts marketing — from using bodies as bargaining chips, to illegal organ transplant trading to unauthorized selling of cadaver parts by the state coroner. So when these details are brought up all she can do is scream “blood libel”

        Great debater you are Oleg — “it is antisemitism all the time, there is nothing else I need to say”.

      • RoHa says:

        “Owhh blood libels Walid an oldie but a goodie.”

        Blood libel, Jew hater, anti-Semite, what about Sudan, etc., etc., etc.

        Do they give you Zionists training in how to commit as many fallacies (and especially fallacies of relevance) as possible?

        Here are a couple of lists. Make sure you haven’t forgotten any. I expect to see them all in your posts. Don’t disappoint me.

        link to iep.utm.edu

        link to faculty.ccri.edu

  17. Chu says:

    Assange could one day act as a consultant to retrain the US media lackeys.

    I don’t think Anderson Cooper or any of the usual suspects could interview someone as important as Nasrallah. They would have to act as servant to the establishment.
    Part of the problem is the media has lost it’s way, but the other part is that society is slow to understand how they are being deceived by the media. (When was the last time we saw a poll on if the public trusts the US media)
    Alas, the internet is changing the so called ‘facts on the ground’. But often people don’t know the difference between Hezbollah and Hamas, yet they know about KONY 2012 and details like Mitt Romney’s dog is named Seamus.

    A few years ago Scott Pelli interviewed Ahmadinejad on behalf of 60 Minutes. His questioning was so staged and contrived, that the Iranian President was laughing at him and asking if was an agent of the CIA.
    I mean it was bad, really bad.

  18. Kathleen says:

    ““In a recent US Supreme Court decision (Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project, June 21, 2010) the Court upheld material support provisions that prohibit otherwise protected free speech. The Court said that Congress could prohibit conflict resolution, humanitarian aid and other groups from providing training or expert advice to terrorist groups, even when that assistance is aimed at preventing violence.”

    Unless Israel or the US are found to be funding, training and arming the MEK who has been on the US’s terrorist list for how long?

  19. Kathleen says:

    Assange “would you act as a mediator”

  20. Kathleen says:

    going to be great to listen to who Assange interviews next.

  21. ahadhaadam says:

    Hezbollah for Israel is a lot more than just a small militia that kicked it out of Lebanon. It’s an Arab fighting force that demolished the legend of Israeli invincibility with basic weapons and a couple of thousand peasants, many of whom orphans from Israel’s barbaric 18 year occupation of Lebanon.

    Israel’s entire strategy in the Middle East has always been the Iron Wall: beat the native “savages” hard and mercilessly so as to shatter their hope of ever being able to beat Israel on the battlefield. This is the hole that Hezbollah poked in the Israeli myth of invincibility. And just like you would expect from a bully, the bully doesn’t take defeat as a gentleman. He demonizes the enemy, designates him as a “terrorist organization” and goes on a murderous rampage of killing civilians, destroying infrastructure and wiping out entire residential neighborhoods, as Israel did in Lebanon in 2006. Hezbollah of course does not represent a threat to Israel but as long as it exists, there is a dent in the Iron Wall and that’s why Israel is eager for another round in which it hopes to obliterate it and thus restore the Iron Wall.

    If you open Israeli newspaper, you’d see every other day a made-up story by Israeli’s military apparatus about Hezbollah, whether it is about terrorist cells in Thailand, Sinai, South America, drug smuggling, just name it – all from a 2000 men local South Lebanese militia that was created for the purpose of fighting Israel’s occupation and without any shred of evidence of a single terrorist attack. In fact, while Israel killed about 20,000 Lebanese civilians and wreaked enormous destruction, Hezbollah fought fair and square exclusively against the Israeli military. You can see that Nasrallah is a man of integrity and character. It was almost entertaining that during Israel’s 2006 Lebanon invasion the Israeli public believed more Nasrallah’s statements than their own military….

  22. noland says:

    I did not watch the vid. and will not..over the years I’ve seen enough of nassarallah, but he is a fake. To say that you are fighting for a good cause then turn around and blame the dead civilians in syria for ” being stubborn” is just disgusting!!!!

    • Shingo says:

      You simply cannot stomach that Nassaralah kicked Israel’s ass twice and has benefitted politically as a consequence. Of course, he did not blame the dead Syrians for being stubborn, he was blaming the Al Qaeda backed resistance for rejected ting the ceasefire. They’re also killing civilians your puts.

      • noland says:

        funny how you assumed I am an israel supporter or a zionist or something!!

        I am a Palestinian whose parents in one day lost everything for no reason at all!! we lived injustice and I refuse to support it anywhere !!! the syrian government had horrible track records, human rights never existed in that country, and that is not based on CIA reports. what changed overnight?

        as for AL Qaeda lie, it has been done before!!! the arab countries always used that lie !! let’s find a new lie!! be creative a little bit…even Israel use al qaeda lie!!

        this website used to be one of my favorite sites but ever since the syrian revolution started I have been so shocked that the general mood is not for the people – the syrian people.

        • Shingo says:

          I am a Palestinian whose parents in one day lost everything for no reason at all!!

          Yeah, and I’m Bibbi’s lost half brother. Sorry if we don’t buy your BS, but guys like you have come and gone – claiming to be an Arab/Muslim/Palestinian yadi yadi yadi and turn out to be Zionist shills.

          Yes, the Syrian government has a lousy human rights record, as does every other country in the ME, including Israel. Like we saw in Lybia, there was a real uprising in Syria (albeit a minority) but like we saw in Lybia, it has been highjacked by Al Qaeda and the CIA. That explains the suicide bombers.

          link to asharq-e.com

          this website used to be one of my favorite sites but ever since the syrian revolution started I have been so shocked that the general mood is not for the people

          Yeah right, your favourite site that you never bothered to comment on. You’re hasbra slip in showing. Game’s up. Time for you to invent a new identity. Maybe you can come back as a liberal Zionist in your next life.

        • noland says:

          of course do not need to defend myself..seems if I disagree with you I must be a zionist..if you are really a palestinian then take a tour in the facebook world..all these palestinians must be zionists too.

          and talk about ignorance, I follow several websites and never comment on them..what does that mean? plus, I have commented here in the past before I was turned off by behaviors of people like you!!! do not know how you assumed that I ” NEVER” commented here in the past, it is easy to check out history of comments!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Shingo says:

          of course do not need to defend myself..seems if I disagree with you I must be a zionist..

          It’s not the disagreeing that gives you away, it’s your Zionist tone and your Zionist logic, as well as your trade mark Zionist ability to ignore mainstream reports about The involvement of Al Qaeda and Jihadist mercenaries backed by the Arab League.

          and talk about ignorance, I follow several websites and never comment on them..what does that mean?

          It means that given how there are topics of major relevance to the plight of Plaestinians posted here almost daily, and that you have ne ER seen fit to participate in the discussion until now that you are not who you claim to be.

          It’s a paradox how you Hasbrats spend so much of your existence lying, but as so bad at it.

        • noland says:

          You are right, you got me!!! No need to continue this argument , just take your logic to anybody with a brain and I am sure will agree with you!!! Not to mention I told you I have commented here before, not that I believe this is relevant , but you still chose to ignore
          simply checking that fact.

  23. noland says:

    back to Al Qaeda thing…if you know anything about the syrian issue you know that the big time supporters of the revolution can not be accused of being related to al qaeda…from samih shqauir the leftist who sang many beautiful songs for the oppressed palestinians and kurds to farazat the cartoonist who they broke his fingers in prison,to the writers, to the not so conservative actors and actresses and even singers/dancers ..can show videos if you wish!!

    this Al Qaeda garbage is just the same lie every other country in the area uses to oppress their people even more!!

      • noland says:

        Annie,

        do not doubt there is a lot of made up videos…that is normal, even in the palestinian cause, same issue, but that does not mean crimes not real and innocent people not being killed.talk to the syrian refugee in northern jordan!!!

    • Shingo says:

      if you know anything about the syrian issue you know that the big time supporters of the revolution can not be accused of being related to al qaeda

      That might be true of those who originally participated in the demonstrations, but that hasn’t stopped Al Qaeda and those backing the counter Arab Spring Revolution, giving their full support of the revolution giving their support to it or participating.

      Are you suggesting that the BBC is helping Assad’s propaganda campaign or is Ayman al-Zawahiri a puppet of Assad?
      link to bbc.co.uk

      Have you already forgotten that the leaders of the Lybian resistance is intimately connected to Al Qaeda?
      link to articles.cnn.com

      None of this is any secret. Even Israel’s leadership has akowledged it. So how do you explain your own ignorance “trust me, I’m really a Palestinian” Noland?

      • noland says:

        really!!!!

        Al Qaeda claims to support every revolution, it is part of their propaganda. They also claim to support the people of gaza, do you think they too part of Al Qaeda plans!!

        as for CNN link..I do not believe you yourself read it!! it is all speculations, and it also says hezboallah might be involved in lybia too- but that can not be true since nasarallah has said they never get involved in another country’s revolution!!!

        but wait Al Qaeda involvement was acknowledged by Israel like you said….oh then it must be true!!!!!!!!!!

        • Shingo says:

          Al Qaeda claims to support every revolution, it is part of their propaganda.

          Like I already pointed out, the leads of the Lybian rebels are directly conne the to Al Qaeda.

          They also claim to support the people of gaza, do you think they too part of Al Qaeda plans!!

          Yes, the group that killed Vittorio Arragoni were Salafists with links to Al Qaeda.

          but wait Al Qaeda involvement was acknowledged by Israel like you said….oh then it must be true!!!!!!!!!!

          Why would Israel make sucha claim if it wasn’t true, when they themselves are supporting the rebels?

          You’re really not too good at this Hasbra thing are you?

        • Hostage says:

          but wait Al Qaeda involvement was acknowledged by Israel like you said….oh then it must be true!!!!!!!!!!

          There are plenty of ordinary Syrians among the revolutionaries, military defectors, and the leadership of the “Transitional Council”.

          But the overthrow of Assad has also been an acknowledged goal of Al Qaeda for several years according to Ayman al-Zawahri and other Al Qaeda strategists. Members of the movement in Iraq have taken credit for some of the actions taken against Assad’s forces. See the collection of articles at Prof. Jousha Landis’ Syria Comment blog. link to joshualandis.com

        • this is old news noland. i even think someone already posted this link on this thread. but here it is again in case you missed it. from February.
          link to washingtonpost.com
          Al-Qaeda infiltrating Syrian opposition, U.S. officials say

        • Walid says:

          Annie, we’ve been around the block on this with Noland last August here on the Libya threads and he’s still confused on what he wants. He doesn’t want the old dictators to hang around and he doesn’t believe that the Brotherhood is taking over everywhere. Now he doesn’t believe the part about al qaeda moving in and he supports the Syrian insurgents but doesn’t know that they want to make peace with Israel which would put the final nail in the RoR coffin. He believes Nasrallah but he doesn’t believe Nasrallah. Very confused.

        • Very confused

          probably because it’s all so complicated!

        • noland says:

          There is no confusion here!! Every day passes with these dictators in power, it is going back 100 years…you want confusion , it is you guys who forget about the involvement of the Syrian government in many massacres in Lebanon , that lead to death of many innocent Palestinian children and civilians.

        • noland says:

          So Al Qaeda moving in, and the insurgents wants peace with Israel ./. Does this make Al Qaeda wants peace with israel? Or they are not with the insurgents ???? Now you confused me!!!

        • Walid says:

          Noland, they have always played on the same team but wore different jerseys to keep everybody confused; you’re not the only one. Cheer up, the dictators are leaving one by one and in time, they will all be gone.

        • Shingo says:

          it is you guys who forget about the involvement of the Syrian government in many massacres in Lebanon , that lead to death of many innocent Palestinian children and civilians.

          Of course, Noland’s heros didn’t do any of that nasty stuff in Lebanon now did they? Sabra and Shatilla and Qana never happened, along with the 20,000 Lebanese that Israel laid waste to.

  24. AaronAarons says:

    It’s been quite normal for a long time for the U.S. and “Al Qaeda” to be on the same side while continuing to denounce, and even attack, each other. Before Syria there was Libya, before that, Kosovo, and, before that, Bosnia. And those are just the cases that come to mind.

    • Walid says:

      It has existed long before it was given a proper name of its own. There was a good essay on its roots here last September by Nu’man Abd al-Wahid that has it originating with British colonialism over a hundred yers ago and in time being taken over and still manipulated by the American one:

      “… All three strands of Islamism, the Egyptian, Saudi and Indian came to modern political formation during the British imperial reign in the Arab World and South East Asia. It is these three strands of Islamism that the United States “inherited” from Britain.”

      link to mondoweiss.net

    • Keith says:

      AARONAARONS- I’m glad you brought this up. I don’t know about Al Qaeda per say, but the Mujahadeen were a creation of the CIA used to destabilize countries targeted for regime change. Syria is targeted for regime change. US/NATO/Israel’s fingerprints are all over this imperial destabilization attempt. The empire seeks Middle East hegemony and stability, however, most folks don’t understand that “stability” refers to the power relationships, not to peace and tranquility, the bane of empire. Divide and conquer, divide and rule. The empire loves chaos, the opposition divided and fighting among themselves, no real organized opposition to speak of. The issues decided by military power where Uncle Sam reigns supreme. I am unaware of any instance of the empire acting out of humanitarian concern, humanitarian intervention a shopworn pretext for mass-murder followed by imperial control.

  25. The position of this web site vis a vis the Egyptian nonviolent protests of 15 months ago was- the people want their freedom and they should have their freedom no matter where it leads. Now the position of the web site vis a vis the Syrian uprising is- not so fast, we don’t know where this will lead. This seems to be inconsistent.

    • Philip Weiss says:

      im in a different spot from annie, wonder. im with the syrian rebels.

      • noland says:

        A friend of mine who grew up in yarmouk refugee camp in Syria said to me : everybody is discussing the Syrian situation with me from the Palestinian angel , but even if I believe that al-Assad is good for us, which I do not, this not about us the Palestinians,it is about the syrian people!!! Their years of struggle under this regime also been horrible!!

        • Shingo says:

          If you’re so concerned about the plight of Surian refugees Noland, the surely you would agree a ceasefire is necessary.

          Sohow can rejecting the ceasefire benefit the rebels? How could that strategy possibly benefit civilians and lessen bloodshed

      • Dan Crowther says:

        if you’re “with” them, why dont you write about them? i dont get the sense that you are all that interested in the “other” middle eastern countries – theres precious little here about the rest of the region; yet, without any explanation as to “why” you’re “with” the syrian rebels, you just throw it out there…..what gives? “with” them to the extent that the US gets directly involved? more importantly, what “rebels” are we talking about? the private citizens with legitimate beefs, or the foreigners (read: al qaeda)?? Money, arms and fighters are flooding into syria right now, you support this?

    • Shingo says:

      The position of this web site vis a vis the Egyptian nonviolent protests of 15 months ago was- the people want their freedom and they should have their freedom no matter where it leads

      Yes, the operative word being no violent and the fact that it was an Egyptian uprising, not one high jacked by Al Qaeda/Arab League/NATO as we w in Lybia. What’s more is that unlike Mubarak, Assad still enjoys majority support in Syria.

      I’m all for AssD being overthrown if that’s the will of the Syria.n public, but it’s obvious that the outside players are high jacking the uprising to isolate Iran.

  26. Keith says:

    PHIL- “im with the syrian rebels.”

    Yes indeed, Phil, you are a true blue liberal to the core! Never met a “humanitarian” intervention you didn’t like. It allows you to join the parade and root for empire without feeling guilty. And, my, didn’t things work out well in Libya! Tens of thousands killed, the infrastructure destroyed., their relatively high standard of living in the toilet, armed rebel factions roaming the streets out of control, ongoing ethnic strife, the country on the verge of splitting up. And now you want to duplicate this in Syria? God save the world from liberal good intentions!

    • Shingo says:

      Look on the bright side Keith

      Lybia’s oil resources are right back where they belong – in the hands of Europe. At least intervention pays dividends.