The other day I posted a video of Marc Zell, an American settler in the occupied territories, talking in the King David Hotel after the Romney fundraiser there on July 30.
Well here is another video of Zell, a lawyer, holding forth about American politics, in which he says he’ll be taking an active part.
Zell begins by saying he met with the New York GOP chairman Ed Cox ahead of the Weprin-Turner special election in Brooklyn last year in which Israel played such a large factor.
“We were able to push this button, this Israel button among the Jewish voters. And we made them focus on that.”
Zell then says, at about 1:20, that he will be taking an active part reaching out to Jewish voters in swing states, Ohio and Florida, in the coming election. He will be going over to the States to electioneer, including at senior centers. But there will also be “phone banks, from here.”
Zell says that many American Jews, even if they’re Democratic, will vote Republican because they see things from a Jewish perspective. What is that perspective? The message is simple: The state of Israel is being delegitimized. The Jewish people are under attack. There are only 13 million Jews on the planet and that number is not growing.
“If we the Jews can’t figure out how to vote in terms of our best interest in terms of Jewish issues, then no one else is going to help us… Put your Jewish concerns now… at the top of your list.”
I don’t know who the Israeli is who keeps engaging Zell during this conversation. By the way, Zell also notes that Obama’s chief of staff, Jack Lew, is an observant Jew, and credits Obama’s intelligence. But he says that Obama is “more or less indifferent to Israel, sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.” Obama genuinely wanted peace, but he “misconceived the role of settlements in the context of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.”
Obama genuinely wanted peace, but he “misconceived the role of settlements in the context of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.”
Damn right. Obama started nicely with settlement freeze demand, and then gutlessly dropped it like a hot potato.
I don’t see how Obama is any different then Bill Clinton in his approach on the conflcit- except Clinton had several different Israeli prime ministers which he got to work with, while Obama only had the “pleasure” of working with Netanyahu. If Clinton only worked with Netanyhu, considering how much they disliked each other, he would get the reputation of being “anti Israel” too.
How about a phone bank of US Jews calling Israelis to urge them to dump Likud-Beiteinu before Netanyahu-Lieberman launch another war of aggression that further destroys Israel’s credibility internationally, and risks dragging the US into another disastrous, un-winnable war of choice in the middle of the Asian continent, from which no good can ever come for anyone?
these settlers evidently didn’t see the latest poll in israel showing by 46% to 32% israelis themselves are opposed to a war with Iran … or that nearly 70% of American Jews are expected to vote for Obama
The latest poll in Israel according to the 927 site shows 44% in favor attacking Iran and 33% against it unless the US does it.
It’s some of the former military and intelligence officers in Israel that make up the brunt of the anti attacking Iran outcry….not the general public.
If this isn’t blatant manipulation of US politics by a foreign nation, I don’t know what is. I hope someone is going through every $ contribution to Romney from his last trip to Israel to ensure that it really came from an American citizen – if not, I hope they lock him up and throw away the key!
Now wouldn’t that be sweet if that happened and Ron Paul became the Republican nominee? It would be the most interesting presidential debates in a long time!
RE: “‘We were able to push this button, this Israel button among the Jewish voters. And we made them focus on that. . . Zell then says, at about 1:20, that he will be taking an active part reaching out to Jewish voters in swing states, Ohio and Florida, in the coming election. He will be going over to the States to electioneer, including at senior centers. But there will also be ‘phone banks, from here’.” ~ Weiss
MY COMMENT: The new “southern strategy”?
FROM GEORGE WALLACE (1963 Inaugural Address ~ January 14, 1963 ~ Montgomery, Alabama):
SOURCE – link to archives.alabama.gov
“If we the Jews can’t figure out how to vote in terms of our best interest in terms of Jewish issues,………. then no one else is going to help us… ”
Is there ANY group of victims of anything ever that have received anything like the compensation and help from the world that the Jews have?
If so I’ve never heard of them.
And yet every single Zio always begins with……’.no one has helped the Jews…’.the Jews can only depend on themselves….’the world is hostile to Jews…
Zell is so ful of it, one hardly knows where to begin, but I’ll address his last point. He claims that once Israle is convinced the US is firmly in her corner, she will take all kinds fo risks to make peace.
Bush was the most pro US president in history, and it didn’t happen. In fact, even Martin Indyk admitted that Washington had hoped that by givign Israel everything it wanted, Israel would make peace, but this strategy had backfired. By giving Israel everything it wanted, Israel had concluded that it didn’t need to.
Bingo.
I actually take Mr. Zell’s word seriously. His response is a such a stereotypical response that it ought to be used as an exhibit in classic hasbara.
Yet I still agree with him. Why?
Because he is right when he says that Israel needs psychological and moral support.
That is what this is about.
I also think he’s right in the sense that Obama doesn’t “feel” Israel(the kishkes question).
However, the reason why Israel needs this psychological and moral support isn’t because they are to be taking ‘risks’. The reason is because they know they are stealing Palestine in broad daylight and need and desperately crave the support of the United States. As Apartheid South Africa’s ambassador said to his U.S. counterpart in the 1960s when the campaign was heating up:
We all know that there is only one vote that counts in the UN and that vote is the vote of the United StatesLike Apartheid South Africa, Israel understands this too.
Note the utter fear in his voice when he says that Israel only has one real friend in the world and that’s America. (Canada is now vying for that spot, but Canada is far less powerful. The US is the only friend that ‘matters’ on the international arena).
Apartheid South Africa was carried by the U.S. for over 30 years because of it’s support against communism. You don’t have that large-scale threat today. Israel’s hasbaraists have tried to elevate Islam – with some modest success – but the policy elite in America understands that’s total lunacy.
And Israel’s relations with China are steadily improving, thereby undermining their claim to be an ‘indespenseable ally in all situations’.
What Israel needs is basically a president who will rubber stamp everything. Obama has done that, although reluctantly, but he has done that. And the way he has dragged his feet have exposed them to a certain extent.
Romney will not only rubberstamp everything, he will do it with a smile because Adelson will own him if he wins the election.
And that’s what excites Marc Zell.
Still, even if Obama is re-elected, the Zell’s of the world will mostly get their way. They’ll just get their way harder and harder, because in the end Washington and much of the MSM will not resist(see an earlier thread where Phil Donahue was pushed out because of his anti-war stance vis-a-vis Iraq).
It’ll come from the liberal grassroots and if Obama is in office and Bibi continues in Israel, then that tension will continue. Obama won’t pressure them, but his grassroots will and Zell understands this.
Nonetheless, even if Romney by all miracles wins this election, it’s foolishness to assume that just because a Republican is in the WH, things will take care of themselves. The liberal grassroots will in some sense be even more active in their opposition because now there’s two Likudniks in power in both countries and you won’t need to hold back because your candidate is in the WH.
“Indifferent”. Thank you. That’s the word I was looking for when I was trying to convince a fellow Jew that Obama isn’t anti-Israel. As in, “he is at worst indifferent to Israel”. Really though he is a supporter of Israel, just not as overtly as some would like.
Zell is like lets scare Bubby and tap into her fears about anti-Semitism so she will vote Romney. So predictable and unbelievably pathetic.