Netanyahu’s touchdown: David Gregory interviews ‘the leader of the Jewish people’ without talking Palestine

Netanyahu and Gregory

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was in regular form today on NBC’s flagship show Meet the Press. His hyperbole included this gem, per Talking Points Memo: “[Iran is] in the red zone. You know, they’re in the last 20 yards and you can’t let them cross that goal line. You can’t let them score a touchdown because that would have unbelievable consequences — grievous consequences for the peace and security of us all, of the world really.”

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And while Netanyahu’s interview capped off a week of bad optics for the US-Israeli relationship, he did manage to score his own touchdown: not having to talk about Palestine.

Host David Gregory–who is being mocked for his assertion that Netanyahu is “the leader of the Jewish people”–let Netanyahu prattle on for 15 minutes without mentioning the word Palestine or Palestinians. This is Gregory’s fault–he could have easily asked one question about the unending expansion of Israeli settlements, or racist mob violence in Jerusalem. Or how about the Palestinian Authority’s planned bid to once again go to the United Nations to ask for international recognition of statehood?

Alas, Gregory was solely focused on Iran, as is Netanyahu. Any gaze turned away from Israeli expansionism and apartheid is a victory for Netanyahu, no matter if he has blundered badly in his public hectoring of the Obama administration. Netanyahu–and AIPAC–have won for now by turning the world’s attention away from Palestine.

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  1. I don’t know why you’re mocking Gregory’s assertion that Netanyahu is the leader of the Jewish people. Gregory is a devoted student of the subject:

    “What I decided was [that] what mattered was not just a sense of actual knowledge” or attending High Holiday services, “it was to understand how to live Jewishly … [and] find daily meaning in Judaism.” (David Gregory, 2008)

    • seanmcbride says:

      If Benjamin Netanyahu is the leader of “the Jewish people,” then “the Jewish people” are responsible for Benjamin Netanyahu and his policies. The implications in this situation are, uh, problematic. “The Jewish people” might want to think twice about tying their reputation and destiny to Benjamin Netanyahu — but what do I know.

    • radii says:

      Well, at least Tom Friedman – sometime punching-bag here on Mondoweiss – openly referenced the settlement issue as a key problem over on the other network’s Sunday news show (right in front of Haass, one of israel’s key Fifth Column people here in US policy circles)

    • chinese box says:

      it was to understand how to live Jewishly … ” (David Gregory, 2008)

      What the heck does this mean? How about just living as a human being?

  2. Mooser says:

    “Host David Gregory–who is being mocked for his assertion that Netanyahu is “the leader of the Jewish people”–

    Why is he being mocked? I’m sure he’s a much more experienced and aware man then I am, and then there’s his job, which keeps him in contact with world figures. I’m sure he knows these things.

  3. ColinWright says:

    ,“it’s the same fanaticism that you see storming your embassies today. Do you want these fanatics to have nuclear weapons?”

    Of course, there is the possibility that the fanatics who stormed the embassy are the same as the fanatics who already have nuclear weapons. In that connection, funny how well that attack works out for you.

    • Not so long ago ( 2008 ) King David hotel held a memorial for those killed in the terrorist attacks by Stern gang , a Jewish nazi-supporting outfit of 19040s. It chose the wrong person .It recognized and remembered only one person. He was one of the terrorist killed along with western diplomats who went unmentioned . Those fanatics have the nukes and they will use it against the West as scholar (US)and military analyst(Israel) have warned the West but in a way that justifies the use of those nukes .

      • ColinWright says:

        Izzat a fact? I’ll happily retail it — but first, this is literally true?

        They memorialized one of the bombers?

        • Colin , it took me a while to locate this article.
          Sorry for the delay.It was in LA Times March 25th 2010

          “To cite just one example of many, in July 2006 a plaque was unveiled in Jerusalem’s King David Hotel honoring the men of the Irgun terrorist group who bombed the hotel in 1948, killing 92 people. In response, the British ambassador to Israel issued a statement declaring, “We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated.” Among those attending the ceremony honoring the mass murderers was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. One of the perpetrators of the crime was on hand to provide guided tours.”

          link to articles.latimes.com

        • ColinWright says:

          Thanks for looking it up. Worth keeping on file.

  4. This guy has been humiliated and snubbed by US President and his bluff has been called by his own colleagues. Still he walks and talks like a king. He has no shame let alone any guilt. I guess it helps not to have these traits for “‘one, that Arabs only understand force and, two, that the biggest weakness of Arabs is shame and humiliation.’”
    Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Ghraib
    By Seymour M. Hersh

  5. Mooser says:

    Quite a contrast between Phil’s analysis of this interview and Alex Kane’s.

  6. seanmcbride says:

    Josh Marshall reports that David Gregory is trying to back away from his statement that Benjamin Netanyahu is the “leader of the Jewish people”:

    “Gregory Declares Bibi King of the Jews”
    link to talkingpointsmemo.com

    Helping matters somewhat, Gregory went on Twitter a short time ago and clarified that it would have been “better to say he’s leader of jewish state.” To which I would say, yes, much better. In fact, probably best to say, he’s leader or Prime Minister of Israel.

    But it’s too damned late — the cat is out of the bag. David Gregory provided a window into the cult thinking of most Zionists (certainly most religious Zionists). We’ve got the picture.

    • braciole says:

      Gregory really is a tosser – doesn’t he understand that the leader of a republic with a parliament is the president rather than the prime minister. All the prime minister can depend on is that at any particular moment, he enjoys the support of a majority in that parliament. If he loses it, he is history.

    • munro says:

      The interview was pre-taped, they could’ve edited the phrase “leader of the Jewish people” but chose to leave it in. The look in Bibi’s cow eyes gazing deep into the camera at “easily moved” American idiots reminds me of Manny Horvitz, Philadelphia mobster on Boardwalk Empire (starting again tonight incidentally).

    • American says:

      @ sean

      It’s funny, not haha, but odd, because I had just made this statement elsewhere:

      “I think we all see what has happened with Israel and the Jews. Zionism has morphed Israel from the original safe haven theory and even morphed Judaism for many Jews, into ”Jewish Nationalism” whereby all Jews everywhere are members of this Jewish Nation and must act in it’s- Israel’s- their real nation’s, National interest. ”
      &
      “This is now the zionist appeal and the rallying cry for Israel….it demands of Jews their Jewish Nationality peoplehood membership supersede any other nationality or national interest they might have.”

      And Gregory stepped right in and confirmed it….THIS is how the zionist see it…Jews are a Nation of their own and whoever is President of Israel is President of all the Jews.

      • Citizen says:

        @ American
        Bibi told Gregory & the audience for Meet The Press, “You are us, we are you.”
        Can’t get much plainer than that on US mainstream media’s gold standard Meet The Press.

        Bibi (and Gregory) sees himself as the leader of all Jews everywhere, and also of the USA’s 98% non-Jewish peoplehood, who all move easily, compliantly, for him. Any elected POTUS, in Bibi’s eyes, is either his lackey, or a minor bump on the road, “easily moved.”

  7. seanmcbride says:

    Host David Gregory–who is being mocked for his assertion that Netanyahu is “the leader of the Jewish people”–let Netanyahu prattle on for 15 minutes without mentioning the word Palestine or Palestinians. This is Gregory’s fault–he could have easily asked one question about the unending expansion of Israeli settlements, or racist mob violence in Jerusalem. Or how about the Palestinian Authority’s planned bid to once again go to the United Nations to ask for international recognition of statehood?

    Most Jewish mainstream media pundits, like most Jewish politicians, are highly vulnerable to financial, psychological and social pressure from the Jewish community, the Jewish establishment, the Israel lobby and the Israeli government on Israeli issues. And this is why they are highly unreliable when it comes to providing objective analysis of Mideast politics from the standpoint of the American strategic interest or universal human rights. They simply can’t do it. They don’t dare challenge their “community.”

    And now the United States is facing a probable foreign relations (and domestic economic) catastrophe.

    • Citizen says:

      “And now the United States is facing a probable foreign relations (and domestic economic) catastrophe.”

      All around the world the Muslim community is protesting the US heavy hand, so long oppressive, indirectly by its support of Arab tyrant regimes, and by direct support of Israel in its oppression of the Palestinian Arabs and continued stealing of the little land they have left. In short, US interventionism is seen for what it actually is in its impact on the daily lives of Arabs–for many decades. The eruptions came in the form of the Arab Spring against the lackey tyrant Arab regimes, and now, in the Arab Summer, it comes again, against the US; the Arab Fall will direct its anger at Israel more directly too. Meanwhile, both US candidates for POTUS are falling all over themselves, competing for Israel’s favor.
      Bibi N knows all of this. He wants another pound of US flesh. Question is, who wants to be POTUS more, Obama or Mitt? The one who agrees with Bibi N that the “red line” triggering bombing Iran is “nuclear weapons capability,” as distinguished from actually having a single nuclear weapon. Bibi’s trap is that Iran already has the necessary uranium threshold, if it chooses to build a nuclear weapon. The set-up is in, the only question is how soon before Bibi’s Israel forces US to join it’s attack on Iran.

      The core protests against Bush JR attacking Iraq, after a decade, are now conventional wisdom. In other decade, it will be the same re attacking Iran. That is, if we survive WW3.
      “The Leader of the Jewish People” could care less about any negative fallout other than in Israel. Perhaps he should study Jewish history a tad more.

  8. ColinWright says:

    Wasn’t it yesterday Phil was hoping Gregory would ask Netanyahu the tough questions? It was going to be a real grilling, as I recall…

    I had a feeling Phil was going to be disappointed…Netanyahu’s not going to go into something like this unless he’s seen the script first.

  9. NickJOCW says:

    It seems a bit unfair to Jews.

    • ColinWright says:

      This is why God created Israel.

      He felt Jews were too proud. Israel is to teach them humility.

      Of course, this leaves unanswered precisely what sin the Palestinians committed…

      • amigo says:

        “Of course, this leaves unanswered precisely what sin the Palestinians committed…” Colin.

        That,s easy, They just wont lie down or preferably disappear.

      • seanmcbride says:

        ColinWright wrote:

        This is why God created Israel.

        He felt Jews were too proud. Israel is to teach them humility.

        More confirmation that I was wise to trust my initial gut instincts about Colin Wright’s antisemitism and Judeophobia. His agenda extends well beyond an argument with Zionism. Colin believes that he is mired down in a grand kulturkampf with “the Jews.”

        • ColinWright says:

          seanmcbride says: ‘More confirmation that I was wise to trust my initial gut instincts about Colin Wright’s antisemitism and Judeophobia. His agenda extends well beyond an argument with Zionism. Colin believes that he is mired down in a grand kulturkampf with “the Jews.”’

          Too much. When I posted that, I wondered if Officer Sean would be superficial enough and obsessed enough to immediate seize upon it to make on of his little ideological denouncements.

          He was. Like catching a smallmouth during the pre-spawn. A hit on every cast…

          What a pathetic little Stalinist wannabe…and the inane intellectual pretensions. Define ‘kulturekampf’ for us, sean. Show us how it relates to what I said at all.

          I stand by what I said. It’s an interesting if obviously flippant thought — and there’s nothing remotely anti-semitic about it.

          You ‘were wise to trust initial gut instincts’ indeed. The ever-vigilant Chekist. Such probably are indeed your ‘gut instincts.’ So much the worse for you.

          Please. Continue with this. Make an even bigger ass of yourself than you have already. You’ll show me! Hit the next lure too.

        • seanmcbride says:

          I am sure you are right, Colin: you are manipulating me in our exchanges and are coming out ahead. :)

        • Mooser says:

          “You ‘were wise to trust initial gut instincts’ indeed. The ever-vigilant Chekist”.

          In case you didn’t know Colin, it’s called a gut-chek. You should try it sometimes.

        • Mooser says:

          “I am sure you are right, Colin: you are manipulating me in our exchanges and are coming out ahead. :)”

          He is one weird dude, huh Sean. Oh well, just think of what he might be doing if he wasn’t here. It’s almost like we’re performing a public service or something.
          Too bad he’s not as smart as Krauss. Now, there’s a cage-match I’d pay to see, providing Krauss was properly handicapped, of course. That +15IQ is a big hurdle, and it’s not fair to make Colin jump it.

        • Mooser says:

          Jeez Sean, it’s hard to see a man who says “God created Israel” as an anti-Semite. Much easier to see him as a Zionist who just hasn’t discovered himself as such yet.

        • Mooser says:

          “When I posted that, I wondered if Officer Sean…”

          Gosh, and all was all set to deride you, and you come up with a time-stamped twitter, or e-mail or a notarised statement to prove you were wondering that before Sean posted. And I was going to say you just made that part up. But nope, that Twitter, e-mail or notarised statement is pretty irrefutable.

        • ColinWright says:

          Mooser says: “…And I was going to say you just made that part up. But nope, that Twitter, e-mail or notarised statement is pretty irrefutable.”

          Well, you’ll just have to trust me on that…but I clearly recall speculating about it before I posted it. After all, Sean has been almost comically assiduous.

        • seanmcbride says:

          Mooser wrote,

          “He is one weird dude, huh Sean.”

          Colin’s anti-Jewish remarks are “lures” dangled by a clever mastermind to entrap his hapless Chekist enemies. Right. :)

        • seanmcbride says:

          Colin,

          To bring you up to date on the Samson Option:

          Mitt Romney discussed a variation on this scenario in that video that was just released:

          “If I were Iran, if I were Iran—a crazed fanatic, I‘d say let’s get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and then if anything goes wrong, or America starts acting up, we’ll just say, “Guess what? Unless you stand down, why, we’re going to let off a dirty bomb.” I mean this is where we have—where America could be held up and blackmailed by Iran, by the mullahs, by crazy people. So we really don’t have any option but to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.”

          link to theblaze.com

          Now, imagine that this crazed fanatic possesses a large arsenal of WMDs and state-of-the-art nuclear weapons technologies (including mini-nukes) and is being faced with imminent destruction by the world at large.

          Are you beginning to get the picture?

          Mideast policy analysts have been thinking and worrying about this realistic scenario for decades. It could happen. Try to get up to speed. Pick up a book or journal now and then.

        • Mooser says:

          “Well, you’ll just have to trust me on that…but I clearly recall speculating about it before I posted it.”

          Sure, Colin, whatever you say dude, of course you did, you even wrote it down a scrap of paper, but the dog ate it. Nothing unusual about that, my dog eats paper all the time.

        • ColinWright says:

          seanmcbride: ‘…Colin’s anti-Jewish remarks…”‘

          What’s unfortunate about your tactic is that it’ll work. If you just repeat a lie often enough, people will start to believe it.

        • ColinWright says:

          seanmcbride says: “…Try to get up to speed. Pick up a book or journal now and then.”

          You’re pathetic.

        • Taxi says:

          Sean,

          You just love to be right (not Wright) don’t you? Even at the expense of world peace.

          And so damn fearing the israelis and their samson option, you STILL want to protect the jews of israel above all others in the region.

          Yeah right you’re not a bundle of contradictions at all.

        • re Colin’s comment on Jewish pride: I always thought it was interesting that in Christian ethics, pride is not just one of the seven mortal sins, but the prime sin from which all the others are thought to follow. But “chutzpah” is the title chosen by Alan Dershowitz for a book about “what it means to be Jewish”.

          (Sure hope this doesn’t get me indicted by seanmcbride’s indigestion.)

        • Shmuel says:

          PTJ,

          Dershowitz is not exactly a shining example of Jewish (or any other) ethics. The sin of pride in Jewish ethical thought is actually quite similar (and in some cases, e.g. the work of Isaac Nathan of Arles, directly related) to the Christian view.

          The only “good” thing that Jewish religious teachings have to say about “chutzpah” is that its proliferation is a sign that the time of final redemption is near.

        • seanmcbride says:

          ColinWright wrote:

          You’re pathetic.

          In response to:
          BEGIN QUOTE
          To bring you up to date on the Samson Option:

          Mitt Romney discussed a variation on this scenario in that video that was just released:

          “If I were Iran, if I were Iran—a crazed fanatic, I‘d say let’s get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and then if anything goes wrong, or America starts acting up, we’ll just say, “Guess what? Unless you stand down, why, we’re going to let off a dirty bomb.” I mean this is where we have—where America could be held up and blackmailed by Iran, by the mullahs, by crazy people. So we really don’t have any option but to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.”

          link to theblaze.com

          Now, imagine that this crazed fanatic possesses a large arsenal of WMDs and state-of-the-art nuclear weapons technologies (including mini-nukes) and is being faced with imminent destruction by the world at large.

          Are you beginning to get the picture?

          Mideast policy analysts have been thinking and worrying about this realistic scenario for decades. It could happen. Try to get up to speed. Pick up a book or journal now and then.
          END QUOTE
          Is that an adequate reply to the issue discussed in my comment? Or do you think the Samson Option (and MAD in general in international politics) is too trivial to pay attention to?

  10. just says:

    I was taken aback at Gregory’s coronation as well, and Netanyahu’s neglect in correcting him.

    And for the two of them to speak only about Iran as the biggest threat to the world, the many “suicide bombers” and the relentless use of the word “fanatics” was telling………. oh yeah, and the election- ha ha.

    No mention of Palestine or anything else at all.

    Pathetic.

    • seanmcbride says:

      just wrote:

      “I was taken aback at Gregory’s coronation as well, and Netanyahu’s neglect in correcting him.”

      Can one picture anyone ever describing the heads of state of Ireland, Germany, France or Italy as the leaders of the Irish, German, French or Italian people *worldwide*?

      It would never happen.

      Zionism is a most peculiar ideology indeed. And if it is succeeding in generating a great deal of friction with the world in general, it needs to look to its own beliefs and attitudes to understand what is going on.

      Irish, German, French and Italian Americans (like most Americans of all ethnic backgrounds) are fully integrated into American society. They would never permit themselves to be defined as the subjects or tools of Ireland, Germany, France or Italy.

      Increasingly, Israel is emerging as a threat to the best interests of Diaspora Jews, most of whom owe their undivided loyalty to their respective nations of citizenship.

      • Mooser says:

        Increasingly, Israel is emerging as a threat to the best interests of Diaspora Jews, most of whom owe their undivided loyalty to their respective nations of citizenship.”

        Oh, don’t be silly. If that was so, there would be non-Zionist Jewish congrgations, and openly shrilly so, all over the world, declaring the Zionists their enemies. Man, even Protestants can do that when they need to.
        There’s a big difference between something which is a threat, and something you would just prefer wouldn’t shed so much of its dirt on you.

  11. seafoid says:

    The person to be called the leader of the Jewish people was crucified.

    BNRI has a nice ring to it.
    But what is it about “the Jews*” that a thug like Bibi could rise so high?

    * with apologies to Mooser

  12. Ctwosides says:

    David Gregory’s interview is disgusting;

    1, Where were the hard questions like, Mr Netanyahu, Will you now acknowlege that the statement “Iran Threatened to Wipe Israel off the Map” was a mistranslation ?

    2. Where did you get your Nuke Program, when did it start and why haven’t you signed agreements for inspection of your program since you insist on Irans program being inspected ?

    3. Is Israel somehow entitled to special treatment?

    4. After all Iran hasn’t attacked its neighbors in over 200 years, but Israel on the other hand has attacked many of its neighbors, so are we more in danger from Israel or Iran?

    Would we not expect such questions if other country’s were involved and pushing toward war ?

    The public should raise hell over the one sided Media masking of the real facts and problems. NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL THE PUBLIC INSISTS ON REAL RESPONSIBLE REPORTING/QUESTIONING. Any Idea’s ?

    • dbroncos says:

      @Ctwosides

      And how about:

      It’s been reported that you (Bibi) played a role in smuggling nuclear material out of the US to help build Israel’s nuclear arsenal, can you tell us what your role you played?

    • radii says:

      5. And what about your role in smuggling US nuclear triggers out of the US in the 80s – an act of espionage punishable by death?

      • And that is the prime example of how fucking damnable all this attention to that creep is, coming here for his first visit since his treachery regarding stealing nuclear secrets and materials has been revealed.

        He committed major espionage against the USA, and the operation he was part of left a superfund nuclear contamination site behind them in Pennsylvania.

        Will he pass his whole visit here without anyone bringing it to his face? What slithering slimeballs our MSM talking heads are. When it comes to their not confronting this guy on his espionage, they truly are Israel-Firsters.

        This may be the first time I’ve used that term.

  13. just says:

    Oh, I had to grimace when Gregory said that Israel got money from American Jewish and Christians………….

    Interesting that the money that our government allocates is from US taxpayers, not all of whom are of either one of these faiths!

  14. giladg says:

    Radical Islam is waiting around the corner for a future Palestine as well, especially a Palestine that will be beholden to radical regimes pumping money to them. Alex, why pretend they are different?

    • braciole says:

      And who is responsible? America of course. They pimped Islam to counter the threat of socialism during the Cold War. And who funded this, the Saudis. Doesn’t Washington ever learn.

    • Watch out and act now for somethimg might happen. Keep quiet over same thing as that is happening and has happened before. In this Likud centric world, words are more powerful than the accomplished deeds that those very words may or may not cause in the future.
      .

    • Mooser says:

      “Radical Islam is waiting around the corner for a future Palestine as well, especially a Palestine that will be beholden to radical regimes pumping money to them”

      Giladg, thanks for more support that the policy of the Zionists, as soon as the movement got going, should have been ‘There must be no benefits to Jews without benefits to Palestinians’ Just think what a little bit invested then would have accrued you in Palestinian good will! You know, catch more flies with honey, than vinegar.
      I know, I know, the very idea of sharing the benefits of Zionism with the Palestinians, disgusting, isn’t it? Oh well, I guess we’ll just have to gather up the pieces, when the time comes, and put them in a bag and give you and the rest a decent Jewish burial, if we can find them.
      Not my job to protect you against people you pissed off when you didn’t have to. Sorry, my tribal loyalty doesn’t go that far.

  15. eljay says:

    >> Host David Gregory–who is being mocked for his assertion that Netanyahu is “the leader of the Jewish people”–let Netanyahu prattle on for 15 minutes without mentioning the word Palestine or Palestinians.

    Bibi is Mr. Gregory‘s leader, so it makes sense that he would be deferential… ;-)

  16. libra says:

    AK: This is Gregory’s fault–he could have easily asked one question about the unending expansion of Israeli settlements, or racist mob violence in Jerusalem.

    Kane is being disingenuous to heap all the blame on Gregory. Surely it would be both shocking and surprising if any journalist on any major US network asked such questions of Netanyahu? And that is the real issue that Kane has neatly avoided. The problem is much deeper – and wider – than just Netanyahu and AIPAC.

    • Alex Kane says:

      Heh. I’m avoiding the issue of mainstream media’s treatment of Israel/Palestine? Where have you been?

      • an excellent article alex, thanks

        • Mooser says:

          I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again (if it gets past The Moderators, which is so not the name of my next band. However, I might consider “The Deleters”): One of the primary pleasures of Mondoweiss is having read Alex Kane’s first articles, and seeing him go from strength to strength thereafter.

    • Kathleen says:

      They were talking about Iran and Gregory did not even have the balls to say anything about Iran being a signatory to the NPT, has the right to enrich up to 20% and that Israel continues to refuse to sign the NPT and has massive stockpiles of nuclear weapons. This would have been totally appropriate, fact based and deals with the facts. David Gregory could not even get close to asking. Pathetic

  17. notice his repeated references to those “storming” our embassies…

    the hit in libya was done by professionals, def under saudi direction, possibly israeli influence, and perhaps even some in the USG having knowledge.

    the protests in egypt (originally) had nothing to do with the “film”, and were about the blink sheik in US jail for the 1993 WTC bombing—- the sheik a CIA asset before, and perhaps *when* the 1993 bombing went down. who knows who pushed this egyptian protest to coincide with the anniversary of 9/11…. not a logical decision when almost all muslims not only condemn those events, but the majority also believe that the USG and/or israel were responsible, not some random collection of islamist terrorists.

    news clip with an agenda, but it does tell the truth about the original protests…. *not* related to the “film”-
    link to youtube.com

    gordon duff and others talking about the film, indicating all these things are a psyop, and gordon duff indicating an israeli role (yes gordon duff is often way over the top in fingering zionists, but sometimes he also has good intel)-
    link to presstv.ir

    this whole interview is BS, and we should note bibi harps on
    1) the iranian nuclear weapons program that DOES NOT EXIST
    2) he joyfully brings up the recent protests and embassy stormings…. something he may have had a hand in (cui bono?)

    • and he didn’t “joyfully” bring up the protests/storming. more like happily brings it up again and again cause it fits the narrative he embraces and advances… a “clash of civilizations” and demonization of the irrational and nutty muuuuuuslims. and what do fringe sunni extremists/militants/guns for hire have to do with persian shiites in iran anyways??

      nothing.

  18. Ellen says:

    Just curious. Did any other media outlet give Benjy a platform? Would think his handlers tried to get him in everywhere. Or was it only Meet the Press with Dick Gregory?

    Netanyahu comes across as unhinged. Don’t think he is helping Israel much and now that Romney has attached himself to his hip, this interview will cost him more in the polls.

    • Abierno says:

      You’re absolutely correct. By focusing solely on Iran and the need for US military involvement in that exercise which were provoke a lengthy and bankrupting war,
      David Gregory created more of a touchback than a touchdown. With virtually 50 % of families in this country being touched by the middle east wars directly or knowing someone who has, Netanyahu was speaking to a very different audience than the US congress. This is not an audience which falls within the venue of Bibi’s commentary as “stupid” or “easy to move.” Many of our citizens have paid their dues for W’s middle eastern policies in death, dismemberment, disability and unemployment. From the comments around the internet, they view his comments as intrusive in the election process, insulting to the American public and outrageously insulting to a sitting president. The icing on the cake, of course, is mention on this program of the billions in foreign aid given to Israel while Republicans are insisting we can not – as a country – afford social security, medicaid, medicare, unemployment, health insurance, adequate VA services and all the other safety net services which are part of this country’s commitment to our most fragile citizens. If one wants to talk about the bus, its not Israel under the bus, its not a nuclear bus, – its our disabled, our senior citizens, and importantly, our vets and youth whom Netanyahu and his
      neocon US colleagues are throwing under the bus. This interview made a clear distinction in this election – there is no daylight between Mitt Romney and Netanyahu. A vote for Romney is a vote for nuclear war in the middle east, a war Obama has been desperately trying to stave off – in concert with military experts in Israel, Europe, Great Britain and here in this country.

      • seanmcbride says:

        Abierno,

        That is one of the most incisive and memorable comments I’ve ever seen on Mondoweiss — it cuts right through to the heart of the matter.

        Netanyahu, Romney, the GOP and many Democrats are throwing *Americans* under the bus for the sake of Israel — this is the basic situation we are looking at.

  19. Dan Crowther says:

    Did Alex Kane and Phil Weiss watch the same show?

    • ToivoS says:

      Yes they did. Since neither Alex nor Phil are mere scribes of official statements and since they are different people sensitive to different nuances it is only natural that they would emphasize different parts of this story. That is what makes them interesting since they often pick up things I would have missed.

    • ha ha… i think phil looks for the optimistic parts, but sometimes misses the bigger picture.

      gregory should have slammed him that
      1) there is NO hard evidence of an iranian nuclear program, and in fact NIEs and evidence points to the lack of such a program
      2) an attack on iran would in fact be a disaster, which would prompt iran to leave the NPT, shift to the *right*, and likely start an actual nuclear weapons program

      if we/israel attacks iran, we will then be “forced” by the powers that be to invade with boots on the ground, and/or turn all of iran into an open air prison like gaza, where we constantly patrol the skies with drones and jets, and blow up anything that could be used for military capacity….

      if bibi or the other powers that be spark off this iran “war”, we are utterly effed, as a GLOBE.

    • Mooser says:

      “Did Alex Kane and Phil Weiss watch the same show?”

      Well, when you’ve got someone who doesn’t distinguish between a “materialist” and being “materialistic”, these differences are bound to arise.

  20. dbroncos says:

    Journalists who have sided with Israeli fascism and who have done their part to decieve Americans about the Jewish colonial enterprise that has been the primary source of ME resentment against the US for more than 40 years: David Gregory, Isabel Kershner, Jeffrey Goldberg, Ethan Bronner, William Saffire, William Kristol, Charles Krauthammer…

    Its stunning how many of them there are. Completely understandable wrt how they fit into the larger web of media outlet ownership, advertisers, politicians, lobbyists, watch dog groups and activists.

  21. ColinWright says:

    Those ridiculous facial expressions of Netanyahu’s…

    I remember when he was Fox News’ ‘analyst’ during the Lebanon excursion. Confident, ‘objective’ dissection — that was the ticket. Of course, the joke was that 90% of the audience wouldn’t realize who he was.

    Now we’ve got the ‘grave concern over existential threat’ expression. Sort of like a really smart puppy that hopes you won’t put him to sleep…

  22. Did anyone ask Mr Netanyahu about how Israel treats the Palestinian People?

    It’s probably not important anyways.

  23. dbroncos says:

    One encouraging trend, though. The Zionist web is being challenged on many fronts.

  24. wes says:

    i would like to wish my fellow jewish posters a happy and prosperous new year
    shana tova
    i read this in haaretz and it should sound a timely warning to modern days jews who are being led by false messiahs

    On September 16, 1666, Shabbetai Zvi, the Jewish false Messiah who shook European Jewry to its foundations in the 17th century, informed the Turkish sultan of his readiness to convert to Islam.

    • Mooser says:

      “i read this in haaretz and it should sound a timely warning to modern days jews who are being led by false messiahs
      On September 16, 1666, Shabbetai Zvi, the Jewish false Messiah who shook European Jewry to its foundations in the 17th century, informed the Turkish sultan of his readiness to convert to Islam.”

      Frankly, wes, if Alex Kane, Phil Weiss, or Adam Horowitz want to convert to Islam, it doesn’t bother me one bit. They haven’t asked me to sell my stuff and jump off a roof, and they have a right to whatever spiritual comfort they can get in this life.

  25. Kathleen says:

    David Gregory begins the segment by saying that we will be getting “Israel’s view” As if the American people hear any other view up until recently. Ok David Gregory has never ever mentioned illegal settlements. But even on the Iran topic Gregory never even talks about how Iran signed the Non Proliferation Treaty long ago. Iran has the legal right to enrich uranium up to 20% for peaceful purposes. Why David Gregory could not have simply stated this fact. And ask Netanyahu why Israel continues to refuse to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty. On the topic.

    Whoa David Gregory did talk about the billions of dollars in aid to Israel

    Netanyahu seemed very conciliatory. Far more meek than usual

  26. Kathleen says:

    Sam Seder did an amazing job sitting in for Chris Hayes on Saturday. Have not watched the Sunday show. Met him at the Netroots gathering in Pittsburgh a few years ago…Such a easy going pleasant real person. On Saturday they dug into the protest, situation with Iran and Bibi’s tantrums. They actually talked about the illegal settlements.

    Bibi was so mild mannered on David Gregory’s And then he kept repeating that he does not want to interfere in the U.S. election….RIGHT

    The Chris Hayes program is breaking new ground in the MSM and especially at MSNBC

  27. Kathleen says:

    On front of Huff Po ” Ex Mossad chief attack Iran “stupidest idea I’ve ever heard” Things are not stacking up Bibi’s way for now

  28. Taxi says:

    No I will NOT watch the attached clip of warmongering Bibi doing hammy fringe theater. The mere thought of hearing the vile man’s voice and accent turns my stomach. But I’ve read the transcripts and that’s enough for me.

    Propaganda 101: if you want to get across to the 850 million Americans, just use either a baseball or football analogy.

    War criminal AND shyster!

    I very much doubt that the 50 million Americans Bibi alienated a few days ago on 9/11 would have changed their minds about him after this interview. His quote from 12 years ago “9/11 is good for israel” should have been the banner hanging right behind his big fat head.

    As to David Gregory, he’s one of them ‘liberal’ zionists acting like an israeli-firster during this interview, or any other interview pertaining to israel. I have nothing but disrespect and loathing for media whores like him.

    I also despise Netanyahu so deeply that I actually wish that Iran will have nuclear capability in “5 to six months”, just so that Bibi can go down in history as the israeli PM who COULDN’T stop the iranian bomb!

    Makes me sick to even type his fake surname, or his mickeymouse bubblegum nickname!

  29. ColinWright says:

    “Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu urged President Barack Obama on Sunday to emulate his predecessor John Kennedy and to set “red lines” for Iran in the same way that Kennedy set “red lines” for the Soviet Union in the 1962 missile crisis…”

    – Haaretz

    Absolutely! It’s out of the question for Iran to install nuclear tipped missiles in Cuba. I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Prime Minister on that one.

  30. ColinWright says:

    “…[Iran is] in the red zone. You know, they’re in the last 20 yards and you can’t let them cross that goal line. You can’t let them score a touchdown…”

    Maybe make a hasbara cartoon of this. The evil, scheming mullahs (I recommend red glowing eyes as well as beards) are inside the twenty…they’re going to score…linebacker Netanyahu glances desperately at the sideline…will coach Obama act…there’s only one time out left…

    Fade to black. Words on the screen: ‘It’s up to you, America.’

  31. Taxi says:

    “Red lines”.

    A reference to the color of sniffable ziocaine?

    Is that Mittzy rolling up his hundred dollar bill?

  32. seafoid says:

    It is all such mess. How did the Jews get into this?

    I wish there could be more of a focus on real Jewish history. It wasn’t all persecution, ever. There is a wonderful culinary history that indicates calm and decent values.

    Here is a nice looking recipe that should take the place of war talk .

    link to haaretz.com

    Mema’s old-fashioned honey cake, simplified
    2 eggs
    3/4 c. honey
    1 c. sugar
    1/2 c. oil plus 1 Tbsp.
    2 c. sifted flour
    1 tsp. cocoa
    1 tsp. baking powder
    1 tsp. ground cardamon
    1 tsp. cinnamon
    1/2 c. nuts
    1 c. strong coffee

    Beat all ingredients together for 5 min. Pour into 12 x 8 1/2 inch pan. Bake until done at 375 degrees Fahrenheit (about half an hour or until a knife inserted in the center comes out clean).

  33. Theo says:

    “Nini is the leader of jewish people”

    The question arises “are americans with jewish religion, or atheist ex-jews considered to be jewish people?”
    Walking down the same road we have catholic people, protestant people, mormon people, moslem people, buddhist people, etc.
    Are all those not simply american people as religion do not count as a designation for peoples?

    What really bothers me is that constant jewish question, all other nationalities, (and being a jew not even qualifies as a nationality), became americans without any reservations at least after the second generation.
    We do not hear that Berlusconi was the leader of the italian people, meaning all italian decendents living in the USA or elsewhere. Hitler, a close brother-in-arms of Nini, both having very similar ideas and methods, never was called a leader of all germans of the world.
    If american jews want to survive the fall of Nini, they must distance themselves from him and his ideas. For 200 years no catholic candidate had a chance to become a president, although the pope certainly never would try to corrupt this nation as the zionists do. Now we are under the control of a foreign ideology and political system, and the backleash will come, the longer it takes, the more severe it will be.
    Simple laws of physics, action and reaction are equal in strenght.

  34. manfromatlan says:

    He really ought to keep addressing American voters. One way to ensure Obama’s re-election :)

    And an angry Obama might not be doing the settlements any favours for a while, just saying.

    • ColinWright says:

      manfromatlan says: “He really ought to keep addressing American voters. One way to ensure Obama’s re-election :)

      And an angry Obama might not be doing the settlements any favours for a while, just saying.”

      It’ll be interesting to see what a victorious Obama does. It seems incredible that he could repeat the puerile mistake he made in the Spring of 2009: thinking that he was in the Model UN at high school and everyone would just agree on a sensible plan if only he was willing to compromise. Hopefully, he learned from that (although I kind of resent having to suffer the consequences of him learning the basics of politics while on the job).

      On the other hand, he might lurch into Andrew Johnsonism: start fighting with most of Congress and lose the fight.

      Or, he might suddenly emerge as a leader of national caliber: sort of this butterfly coming out of the cocoon — only more like a grizzly bear or a fine big boar.

      It could happen…something will. Probably Huckabee in 2016.

      • manfromatlan says:

        I think the American people will be tired of Zionism, the covert or the overt kind, by then.

        I hope the Republicans will learn by then and get rid of the crazies. A moderate Republican will do better than a ‘centrist’ Democrat, imo.

  35. Kathleen says:

    So on Sunday morning on the MSM we get the Prime Minister of Israel repeating the bad bad bad Iran song and dance in a much humbler way. Bibi was far more mild and meek during this interview. Not quite as cocky as usual. Then the “I am not going to get involved with your elections” hooey.

    Sunday evening we get former Mossad head Dagan saying on 60 minutes “not now” on Iran. So both interviews no questions zero about Israel having a massive stockpile of nuclear weapons and being unwilling to sign the NPT. No comments about Iran having the right to enrich uranium as a signatory to the NPT. Just another twist in the selling of Israel and the I lobbies perspective. No in depth questions just the I lobby jig…dance around the more serious questions. More on not if but the when question. Dagan came right out and said he would rather see the U.S. strike Iran. Stahl did not press him or challenge him on the you guys do the bloody work strategy of the Israeli government

  36. talknic says:

    Talking about not talking about …

    link to muzzlewatch.com

  37. American says:

    Bibi the terrorist…here Gregory’s leader folks, a common terrorist and thug. Israel is a tiny country, everyone in it knows what’s going on all the time, everyone knew how Netanyahu stirred up violence Rabin that resulted his assassination….but they elected him, so he’s their problem.

    Right-Wingers Call for Israeli Prime Minister Rabin’s Death, Compare Israeli Government to Nazis

    Most Israeli lawmakers and politicians distance themselves from the Jewish extremists calling for the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin over the Oslo peace accords (see September 13, 1993). However, Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu actively curries their favor (see July 1-2, 1994). On the floor of the Knesset, he often attacks Rabin (see September 21, 1993) for giving away “parts of our homeland.” After one particularly fiery speech, thousands of right-wing protesters gather in Jerusalem’s Zion Square, where they put of posters of Rabin wearing a Nazi SS uniform, display banners calling Rabin “Arafat’s Dog,” and chant, “Death to Rabin! Nazis! Judenrat!”—a particularly odious epithet referring to the “Jewish councils” that were forced by the Nazis to expedite the transfer of Jews to concentration camps. Housing Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer is horrified by the frenzy of the mob, and tells Netanyahu, who is orchestrating the demonstration, “You’d better restrain your people. Otherwise it will end in murder. They tried to kill me just now.… Your people are mad. If someone is murdered, the blood will be on your hands.… The settlers have gone crazy, and someone will be murdered here, if not today, then in another week or another month!” Netanyahu ignores the warning, and, basking in the chants of “Bibi! Bibi! Bibi!,” takes the podium, where he is optimistically introduced as the next prime minister of Israel. [Unger, 2007, pp. 139-140]

    Entity Tags: Yitzhak Rabin, Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, Benjamin Netanyahu

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  38. yourstruly says:

    Netanyahu, leader of the Jewish people?

    over how many dead bodies? Seven billion?