Send in the clowns

Israel/Palestine
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This is tragic. It appears that the 92d Street Y in New York is having an event on May 16 called “Time to Lead: A Blueprint for … the peace process”– featuring Jason Alexander, the loser character on Seinfeld, and Dennis Ross, the loser character in the peace process.

92d Street Y event May 16
92d Street Y event May 16 will feature (l to r) Jason Alexander, Dennis Ross, Daniel Lubetzky

Tickets, $29 on up. Promotion for the event: 

Join OneVoice [group headed by Daniel Lubetzky] and a panel of leaders from the diplomatic, religious, entertainment, business and civic sectors for a discussion about the challenges and opportunities facing the peace process, and how collaboration between these sectors can provide new opportunities to move the Israeli-Palestinian process forward.

This is further proof that Zionism has destroyed Jewish intelligence. At a time when Henry Siegman is explaining to a Capitol Hill audience that even a 6-year-old could conclude that the peace process was a scam, and when Ben Ehrenreich is reporting to New York Times Magazine readers on the noble resistance movement in Nabi Saleh, a leading institution of Jewish intellectual life in New York stages a travesty featuring a Seinfeld actor as an expert on the Middle East.

And as for Dennis Ross, Rashid Khalidi reports in his new book that during the Clinton era, Ross pushed the Palestinians to accept “sovereignty” on the West Bank without “control” — which Israel would continue to maintain. How can we have sovereignty without control? Palestinians asked. No wonder Ross produced nothing but more Israeli settlements.

Remember that the 92d Street Y has in the last year or so canceled two events featuring a Palestinian and a leader in the Palestinian solidarity movement: Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish, who lost three daughters to Israeli ordnance, and Roger Waters. Tragic.

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  1. W.Jones
    April 27, 2013, 9:34 pm

    Good sense of humor, Phil.

    What makes you think they “lost” the “peace process” though?

    To make peace in the normal sense of the word, naturally one has to have someone from the “other side”. So which one of the three primary speakers on the panel is Palestinian?

    The announcement says:
    “Join… a panel of leaders from the diplomatic, religious, entertainment, business and civic sectors for a discussion about the challenges and opportunities facing the peace process, and how collaboration between these sectors can provide new opportunities to move the Israeli-Palestinian process forward.”

    This reads like a business conference where the businesses are teaming up to achieve a goal. Who are the businesses?

  2. Daniel Rich
    April 27, 2013, 10:46 pm

    Q: Tragic.

    R: Under normal circumstances I Would fully agree with that sentiment, but given what has been going on over the past 6 or 7 years, this ‘act’ will only help in accelerating the disengagement of the rest of the world’s ‘guilt’ from this apartheid monster and reinstate the actuality of Israel’s real and lifetime actions.

  3. Pamela Olson
    April 27, 2013, 11:16 pm

    Yes… one cringes on their behalf… it’s incredibly embarrassing. I wonder if they will ever understand how embarrassing they are.

    If a tree humiliates himself in a forest and no one ever calls him on it, was he really humiliated?

  4. Kathleen
    April 27, 2013, 11:21 pm

    Jason Alexander expert on the middle east….tragic.

    • eGuard
      April 28, 2013, 7:35 am

      Maybe he is in the right place. The peace process is primarily an entertainment thing.

      • Kathleen
        April 28, 2013, 11:13 pm

        sad but true

      • piotr
        April 30, 2013, 10:15 am

        This is not the first time that “de-zombification” of the peace process is attempted (the term in quotes is more commonly used for banks, I kid you not). Who said that history happens for the first time as a tragedy, and then it repeats as a farce?

        In any case, I remember the last peace proposals of Dennis Ross and I think that he is a much better comedian that Jason Alexander. Mind you, he writes his own material!

    • Citizen
      April 28, 2013, 8:19 am

      Well, Alexander does host funnel a lot of money to the IDF soldiers. To US troops.vets? Not so much. And Ross is good at growing Israeli settlements.

  5. Blownaway
    April 28, 2013, 12:58 am

    Of course everyone knows that the US and Israel could conclude a peace agreement easily if the Palestinians are kept out of it. even a TV character a Israeli apologist and a gadfly can solve it at the Y in NY…as long as there isn’t a Palestinian in the room to gum things up

  6. Mike_Konrad
    April 28, 2013, 3:54 am

    Jason Alexander seems to be an expert on the Hebrew University in Jerusalem
    link to vimeo.com

    He might know something.

  7. Egbert
    April 28, 2013, 4:16 am

    The money machine will keep on flowing as long as the ‘Peace Process’ continues.

  8. MRW
    April 28, 2013, 5:39 am

    This is further proof that Zionism has destroyed Jewish intelligence.

    No shit, sherlock. That and 68 years of obfuscating quasi-dialogue pretending to be intelligent about the issues yet incapable of resolving them or even addressing them intelligently. Jewish intellectual life in America has gone the way of the general population here. Small-minded. Categorical. Petty. Knee-jerk pilpul.

    Pity.

    Behavior/action/thought determines the culture. Culture rewires the brain.

    • American
      April 28, 2013, 6:59 pm

      ‘Behavior/action/thought determines the culture. Culture rewires the brain.”…..MRW

      Yes….. believe there’s a lot to that in cases like the zionist…what else can explain the cognitive dissonance in their mental functions, which they think is normal while other people’s mouths drop to the floor at their fantasy type reasoning.

    • American
      April 28, 2013, 7:18 pm

      Actually this is my bible for understanding Zionism in relation to the Jews and the Non Jewish world.
      The Oxford Handbook of Analytical Sociology, Peter Bearman and Peter Hedström, Oxford: Oxford University Press.
      To wit:
      “”The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come ‘true’.
      This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning.””
      In other words, a positive or negative prophecy, strongly held belief, or delusion –declared as truth when it is actually false – may sufficiently influence people so that their *reactions * ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.
      The term “self-fulfilling prophecy” was coined in 1948 by Robert Merton to describe “a false definition of a situation evoking a new behavior which makes the originally false conception come true” (Merton 1968: 477).
      Merton concluded that the only way to break the cycle of self-fulfilling prophecy is by redefining the propositions on which its false assumptions are originally based. ”

      Unless the original ‘false definitions” for and by Jews and for and by non Jews is acknowledged by both to be mutually false the beat will go on and on.

  9. sky7i
    April 28, 2013, 5:53 am

    In denial about your bald apartheid? Come to the Y and discover whether the toupee or the comb-over is the better hairpiece-process. $29.95!

  10. amigo
    April 28, 2013, 7:19 am

    Desperate times require desperate measures.

    Good ole Dennis Ross, the modern day Lord Haw Haw.

    Tragic figure that he is.

  11. quercus
    April 28, 2013, 7:24 am

    They are all “losers”!

  12. Shmuel
    April 28, 2013, 8:17 am

    Amateurs. Real clowns, like Ivan Prado support Palestinian rights (and scare the living daylights out of humourless Shin Bet agents).

  13. iResistDe4iAm
    April 28, 2013, 11:53 am

    @IJasonAlexander is worried that the US Congress is “officially owned” by a domestic lobby (but has no qualms about it being owned by a foreign lobby).

    Our Congress is officially owned but not by us. 90% of us wanted gun reforms. We got shot. That’s NRA. And that is representative govt. now.

    link to twitter.com

    • Menachem
      April 29, 2013, 1:27 pm

      thats funny resist, because the majority of Americans support Israel, hence Congress votes in favor of Israel. It is the exact opposite of what Alexander is saying in the quote above. Not sure I am following your logic here.

  14. miriam6
    April 28, 2013, 11:57 am

    This is the pot calling the kettle black.

    Yet again.

    “Yes… one cringes on their behalf… it’s incredibly embarrassing. I wonder if they will ever understand how embarrassing they are.”

    “If a tree humiliates himself in a forest and no one ever calls him on it, was he really humiliated?”

    “Jason Alexander expert on the middle east….tragic.”

    If you fervent Anti -Zionist types can call upon such towering intellectuals giants such as the Chilli Peppers — Alicia Keys,—Chaka Khan ( a magnificent singer but no intellectual expert) Macy Gray?! Tilda Swinton! to boycott Israel and be on YOUR ANTI-ZIONIST side then why shouldn’t the pro- Zionists call on Mr Jason Alexander’s expertise?

    You are the clowns.

    The real tragedy is that in this age of kow-towing to shallow celebrity and the general dumbing down of political debate celebrity is that a mere blogger and former – here – today – gone – tomorrow ex hack like Philly Weiss , a character who recently wrote an article on this site comparing the plight of “caged” Palestinian’s to “caged” pigs, can set himself up as an authoritative “expert” on the Middle East and be taken at all seriously.

    That’s the great tragedy.

    “Yes… one cringes on their behalf… it’s incredibly embarrassing. I wonder if they will ever understand how embarrassing they are.”

    INDEED.

    link to mondoweiss.net

    link to mondoweiss.net

    • Justpassingby
      April 28, 2013, 4:24 pm

      You seems to miss the point deliberately. The artists you mentioned have decided not to have concerts in Israel, nothing else, compared to Jason Alexander they havent taken the role of some “peace-maker” engaging actively in conferences and alike.

      Looking at your previous post I understand your frustration with articles here on Mondoweiss, when youre having such love for the occupier.

    • libra
      April 28, 2013, 6:08 pm

      miriam6: …a mere blogger and former – here – today – gone – tomorrow ex hack like Philly Weiss…

      Oh dear, what did Phil do to upset poor Miriam so much? I think we should be told.

      • Djinn
        April 29, 2013, 5:00 am

        I’m pretty sure Phil has a gun to miriam’s head, forcing her to comment here, it’s the only explanation for the increasingly vituperative nature of her posts given this mere blog, run by a hack, is so inconsequential.

      • miriam6
        April 30, 2013, 10:23 am

        “Oh dear, what did Phil do to upset poor Miriam so much? I think we should be told.”
        says@ libra:
        Well, – wouldn’t you just like to know…
        Libra – I take it your commenter name is inspired by the novel by Don de Lillo..
        I would think it simply beneath an obvious sophisticate like yourself to have a name inspired by mere astrology..
        For the record I consider having shallow minded showbiz/ entertainment industry types like Jason Alexander or Alicia Keys offering their pearls of wisdom on BEHALF of Israel or for that matter AGAINST Israel as equally ridiculous and ruinous of the quality of our culture.
        Again I think it represents a dumbing down of our great Western culture.
        In the U.K. where I am condemned to live ( I just wanna live in sunny Australia!!) we have a political debate show on TV called “Question Time ” ( just the one programme – we can’t afford more than one! – as we are in the midst of a triple dip recession and austerity programme inflicted on us by the awful Tories, who themselves are all multi- millionaires and/or conveniently married to other millionaires and doing nicely for themselves.. thank you very much..)
        “Question Time” is a show filled with talking heads panellists, journalists or historians politicians fielding and arguing questions thrown at them by the Public.
        Usually the programme is dull to the point of insomnia because sadly nowadays party politics/ politicians are just so un- adversarial in nature.
        But at least those people on the panel are professional academics, business or trade union people and/or career politicians’.
        I.E. people QUALIFIED to talk about politics.
        Unlike Jason Alexander or the Chilli Peppers or Shakira whose only real business should be entertaining others.
        Nowadays every politician is fighting for space on a narrow political middle-ground.
        Due to the largely non- adversarial nature of it all this the” Question Time” programme has taken for decades now,to featuring non-political entertainment industry types– actors-comedians-musicians- and the like.
        Once they had ex- Sex Pistol John Lydon on as a panellist.
        Occasionally you get a more incendiary political figure on the “Question Time ” panel like Bob Crow, a Trade Union Leader ( yeah there are still some left here ) or god- help- me- I- hate- his vanity- so- George Galloway.
        Much as I generally loathe his more extreme anti-Israel posturing at least his arguments never fails to stir up the debate.
        There are loads clips of his appearances on t.v and radio online.
        Even though I dislike him , always worth seeking out.
        BTW Libra
        Your March fake agony auntie / uncle style letter from “BIBI” addressed to Dr Bio rabbi concerning Bibi’s romantic liaisons’ and entanglements on whether to settle for the Greek or the Turkish lady ( well, he wants both ,doesn’t he?) was a real scream.
        V funny.

    • MLE
      April 28, 2013, 6:24 pm

      Nobody is asking any of them to be on panels discussing the issues. Jason Alexander doesn’t really have an credentials that qualify him to discuss the issues besides the fact that he goes on some state sponsored tours of the region and thinks he’s suddenly an expert.

      • Sumud
        April 28, 2013, 9:12 pm

        Nobody is asking any of them to be on panels discussing the issues. Jason Alexander doesn’t really have an credentials that qualify him…

        I don’t have a problem with entertainment types getting involved in P/I, it’s just that Jason Alexander seems so random a selection.

        If he wants to style himself as an expert that is fine. Let’s see how intellectually honest he is about the current situation in mandate Palestine. I suspect given the Y’s recent cancellations – their inability to cope with dissenting voices – Alexander is going to be a bit of a ziobot.

      • Cliff
        April 29, 2013, 5:22 am

        He also fundraises for the IDF.

        He’s a hasbarat.

    • amigo
      April 29, 2013, 4:11 am

      “You are the clowns.” MI6

      Miriam , you seem pensive.

      The clowns must be doing something right .

    • Cliff
      April 29, 2013, 5:09 am

      Poor Miriam.

      Maybe he/she really likes Georgie Boy.

      Serenity now!!!

    • eljay
      April 29, 2013, 8:37 am

      >> That’s the great tragedy.

      The real tragedy is that hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists exist in this world; that they are able to commit immorality and injustice without any real accountability; and that while they continue to terrorize, steal, cleanse, colonize, hate, destroy and kill, they are openly proud of their immorality and supremacism.

    • Donald
      April 29, 2013, 11:11 am

      “a character who recently wrote an article on this site comparing the plight of “caged” Palestinian’s to “caged” pigs”

      That’s a lie. If you want to rant against Phil, pick a legitimate point where he might be vulnerable–don’t make things up. . The point about celebrities is a fair one. The pig issue wasn’t. Phil was talking about how radical activists sometimes sound to people who aren’t tuned into that particular issue. Even those who got into the animal rights issue in the thread underneath were careful to say they weren’t comparing human rights issues to animal rights issues.

      • miriam6
        May 2, 2013, 10:22 am

        Donald,

        “a character who recently wrote an article on this site comparing the plight of “caged” Palestinian’s to “caged” pigs”

        The point is that so-called Palestine solidarity types —- including Philip Weiss —- who have taken it upon themselves to save the poor Palestinians from a caricaturish “evil” Israel , HAVE INDEED used language and even pictures which turn Palestinians into mere objects of pity in a fashion which IS now analogous to the rhetoric employed by ” animal rights activists” in their campaigns to induce pity for suffering dumb animals.

        Also to my mind there is no such thing as “animal rights”.

        To my mind Phil’s consciously or unconsciously ultimately self – satirizing article was hugely insulting to anyone who values the human right of self determination and autonomy.

        He ought to have realised he was on dodgy ground.

      • Philip Weiss
        May 3, 2013, 11:30 am

        This is completely disingenuous. When I visited Gaza in ’09, a woman living in a tent, whose home near Beit Hanoun had been destroyed 6 months before so as to facilitate the land invasion, said to me, “They treat us like animals.” Her cry touched my soul, in that new Warsaw Ghetto built by Jews; and later I was moved when Jimmy Carter said, They are treated like animals. Our use of this metaphor bespeaks our belief in the dignity of all human beings, and our respect for Palestinian civilization.

  15. Bill in Maryland
    April 28, 2013, 3:55 pm

    Event signals Disneyfication of the “peace process”, now featuring safe, charming Jason Alexander on the marquee.

  16. Blank State
    April 28, 2013, 4:18 pm

    “……the Chilli Peppers — Alicia Keys,—Chaka Khan ( a magnificent singer but no intellectual expert) Macy Gray?! Tilda Swinton……”

    You’re right. Its absurd to call upon celebrity when the truth speaks for itself. A shame you zios rarely have the option to utilize the truth, though. So, hence the utilization of these jackasses like Alexander. Unfortunately for our side, we have no excuse. Cheer up, zio, at least you’ve got Chuck Norris.

  17. Blank State
    April 28, 2013, 4:19 pm

    Oh….

    …and…uh….

    ….Glenn Beck.

  18. Sumud
    April 28, 2013, 9:03 pm

    It’s tragic and it’s perfect at the same time.

    Alexander was once a star in ‘the show about nothing’ and here on the peace process he gets to reprise his role; nothing will happen, just a bit of busy work on the edges.

  19. Menachem
    April 29, 2013, 1:26 pm

    So Mondoweiss is anti-peace process?

    • Annie Robbins
      April 30, 2013, 1:03 am

      there’s been lots of process, but no peace. therefore, there is no peace no process. all it leads to is israeli expansion.

    • talknic
      April 30, 2013, 1:45 am

      Menachem “So Mondoweiss is anti-peace process?

      If you say so… no one else is…

    • Citizen
      April 30, 2013, 4:46 am

      No. Just against a “peace process” that for way too long now has yielded nothing but more home bulldozing, land theft, illegal Israeli settlements as “facts on the ground.” You need to watch somebody pretending to divide up a pizza, showing those around the table how he will slice it up–while gobbling that pizza up.

    • Cliff
      April 30, 2013, 4:49 am

      So Menachem is pro-bureaucratic/time-wasting/land-stealing vis a vis no preconditions + facts on the ground/ “piece process”?

      Stop saying you support BDS. Anyone can say anything online. As you do. You are a Zionist shill.

  20. piotr
    April 30, 2013, 10:58 am

    miriam6: clowns are but a kind of war of the ideas and they are deployed by both sides.

    The clown danger was spotted long time ago by Israeli security authorities. PA attempted to sponsor an international meeting of clowns but Israel averted the danger, returning the clowns back to their home countries at BGU. Palestinian clowns were deployed in some demonstrations, resulting in photos of baffled IDF soldiers. Not to be outdone, Hasbara projects involve comedy, like an entire line of videos spoofing peace activists etc.

    I spotted Dennis Ross a while ago as a rather unusual figure. He is not reciting standard Hasbara points, but being knowledgeable and hard thinking, he proposes original solutions that remind me a lot the jokes about Chelm Jews. Nothing in Ross’s background suggests familiarity with those jokes so I think that he arrived at his style of thinking on his own.

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