Israel is accused of abusing Palestinian children– again

Today, the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child  accused Israeli forces of torturing Palestinian children.

The report (pdf)comes within a year of three other reports: a UNICEF report on children in military detention last winter; a British report of a year ago, Children in Military Custody, which gained wide attention for its assertion that Israel was torturing children by holding them “routinely and for substantial periods in solitary confinement;” and this Breaking the Silence report last summer on Israeli soldiers’ abuses of Palestinian children, which included many reports of children getting beaten “to a pulp.” 

Reuters: Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

……….

“Palestinian children arrested by (Israeli) military and police are systematically subject to degrading treatment, and often to acts of torture, are interrogated in Hebrew, a language they did not understand, and sign confessions in Hebrew in order to be released,” it said in a report.

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“If someone simply wants to magnify their political bias and political bashing of Israel not based on a new report, on work on the ground, but simply recycling old stuff, there is no importance in that,” [Israeli Foreign Ministry] spokesman Yigal Palmor said.

The “old stuff” FM spokesperson Yigal Palmor is referencing is the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) February report Children in Israeli Military Detention, Observations and Recommendations (pdf) on the “widespread, systematic and institutionalized” abuse of Palestinian children held in Israeli custody.

After UNICEF released its report, Israel’s Foreign Ministry claimed in March that it would “study the conclusions and…  work to implement them through ongoing cooperation with UNICEF.”

But that didn’t happen. No; instead, in a bizarre twist, a month later UNICEF attempted to sanitize its own findings at a press conference in Jerusalem. 

No doubt Palmor would much rather deal with UNICEF than with the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, which issued today’s report, since Israel joined UNICEF’s board this year, and UNICEF’s new Jerusalem bureau chief has been very respectful of Israel.

Back to Reuters:

The U.N. committee [OHCHR] regretted Israel’s “persistent refusal” to respond to requests for information on children in the Palestinian territories and occupied Syrian Golan Heights since the last review in 2002.

Today is a good time to be reminding Israel to stop torturing Palestinian children. It’s World Refugee Day, established by the U.N. in December 2000, nearly 50 years after the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees.  It is observed every year on June 20th to raise awareness of the plight of refugees.

Palestinian refugees represent the longest suffering and largest refugee population in the world.

(Hat tip Taxi)

About Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani
Posted in Israel/Palestine, Israeli Government, Nakba, Occupation

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  1. just says:

    If the US government ignores this, then we are just as guilty and without soul as the Israelis.

    There’s no room for excuses, none. If this is how our ‘greatest ally’ behaves, then we should abandon them by $, veto votes, etc. And it should be said loud and clear.

    • Woody Tanaka says:

      The US government is just as guilty. It won’t respond because it doesn’t give a damn about human rights except as a slogan, to wave whenever it deems that it can gain some PR points over it. The American people don’t care because they either 1) agree with torturing Arab children, 2) don’t care, 3) don’t know about it, or 4) don’t think there’s anything to be done. Nothing will be done re: israel because the lobby is too powerful and the politicians too cowardly. They will spout a few platitudes and keep doing the donkey.

  2. MRW says:

    These are really horrible people. They have to be “reminded” not to torture children? Torture children? In 2013? Delegitimizing their bloody nation is the kindest thing that can be done to them.

  3. Mike_Konrad says:

    I do not mean to be disrespectful in this post:

    But the Palestine Refugees video belongs in a separate thread, because it will generate distinctive commentary. I would love to see the firestorm of threads about the right of return that video generates; both pro- and con-

    Torture is one issue.

    Who owns the land is another.

    You are going to get mixed commentary, when both issues are worthy of their own threads. They are both great topics, and should not be mixed.

    Good idea! Hmmm! And from a Christian Zionist.

    We do have them once in a while.

  4. Ecru says:

    Come on people, let’s be fair to the Israelis here.

    When you’re the nation of choice for people like Abraham Mondrowitz, fleeing charges of rampant paedophilia and rape, you have to let them blow off steam somehow and obviously since Jewish kids are sacrosanct when there’s an option available, why not stick the sickos in the IDF and let them loose on some unimportant Palestinian brats? Who cares what happens to the untermensch? Right? Right!

    • Cliff says:

      Oh look another criminal who flees to Israel using the Law of Return. He’s a rapist, and the rest are thieves.

      • just says:

        Such a ‘law’! Why can’t the Palestinians have the same?

        Why do the Israelis want Pollard to come “home” so badly?

    • Mike_Konrad says:

      Jewish kids are sacrosanct when there’s an option available, why not stick the sickos in the IDF and let them loose on some unimportant Palestinian brats? Who cares what happens to the untermensch? Right? Right!

      Mr. Mondrowitz is in an Israeli prison.

      He is guilty of abusing Jewish kids, not Arab kids.

      I understand your point, but it is off topic, and inaccurate. (Click Here)

      Moreover it assume a racism that Mr. Mondrowtiz did not have.

      He was a menace to Jews, NOT Arabs.

      • Ecru says:

        A menace to Jews huh? Tell that to the Italian American children he raped and abused. The ones he was initially charged over because the Jewish community, and it’s “Police Yourself” attitude thought protecting a Rabbi more important than protecting its children.

        As for in prison, not as of this time last year and I can’t find any reference to him being in prison now.

        link to nypost.com

        Nor is he the only one.

        link to nypost.com

        Curious that in both cases those wanted were able to flee the country just before the police came calling. One might almost suspect they were tipped off…….

        And if Israel won’t protect Jewish children from abuse by giving refuge to those wanted on such heinous charges, why on earth should we be surprised it sanctions the abuse of Palestinian children. As in the case of the children cited in a Defense for Children report who claim they were sexually abused by IDF soldiers.

        link to haaretz.com

      • Ecru says:

        One other thing

        ….Jewish kids are sacrosanct when there’s an option available

    • quirx says:

      Harsh, but good point nonetheless. It just speaks volumes about the culture: allowing fellow members of ‘the tribe’ to have sanctuary no matter what their crime (or alleged crime(s)), seizing, detaining, torturing children (or as the Hasbara manual & the Orwellian-titled “Global Language Dictionary”at docstock.com would prefer to call them, “youths”), rampant racism, misogyny, hate crimes, ‘nationalistic crimes’ (read: price tag) and so on. Sure, there are problems in other countries, but seriously, this one is really, really far down the path of the abyss. Sad to say but true. Sometimes the truth is harsh, and someone has to say it, harsh or not.

    • a blah chick says:

      I had not heard about this Mondrowitz person, so I got on the intertubes to educate myself.

      Disgusting.

      What his case proves is one of the dirty little secrets of Zionism, that even Jews can be sacrificed if that is what it takes to preserve the system.

  5. Taxi says:

    Zionism is so disgusting! Twenty years in prison for a ‘stone-throwing’ Palestinian kid. Unbelievable! Come forth mister and missus israel and explain to us this ugly thing you call your ‘jewish democracy’. Is it like some sort of mish-mash of Apartheid and Stalinism and nazism? Cuz it sure sounds like it, looks like it, IS in fact IT.

    May israel never ever ever ever EVER live in peace. May zionist israel overdose on it’s own cruelty and die a memorable and horrendous death. And it’s about time it died – for all the diabolical crimes against children it’s been committing since 1948. Dear lord, may I live to see the day when all the children of Palestine dance on its grave.

    • yrn says:

      Tazi I agree with every word.
      You are completley not surprising , we always knew what the other side thinks.
      You just said it all.

      • , we always knew what the other side thinks.

        does that work the other way around? does ‘your side’ all speak in one voice too? my hunch is, if the world was ignoring a report about decades of systematic torture of jewish children there would be some equivalence of outrage expressed from ‘your side’.

        • yrn says:

          Annie

          One of the main aims of this blog is

          “To publish a diversity of voices to promote dialogue on these important issues”

          If Taxi words, that you try to defend is your understanding of promoting a Dialogue, between Israelis and Palestinians, I guess you and this blog lost your case.

        • yrn, it’s true her words are inflammatory. and, i think it’s important to take into account people are not bots. sometimes they react in ways that could be construed as not promoting dialogue.

          and i would like to say that this situation is DIRE. it’s been documented over and over and over and nothing has been done that has alleviated the situation, in fact one could easily argue it’s gotten WORSE. (read the link!)

          these are CHILDREN! this is what we are talking about:

          link to telegraph.co.uk

          the reported practice of torture and ill-treatment of Palestinian children arrested, prosecuted and detained by the military and the police, and about the State party’s failure to end these practices in spite of repeated concerns expressed by treaty bodies,” the investigative body stated in its periodic review of Israel’s child rights record, released on Thursday.

          It continued: “[Palestinian children are] systematically subject to physical and verbal violence, humiliation, painful restraints, hooding of the head and face in a sack, threatened with death, physical violence, and sexual assault against themselves or members of their family, restricted access to toilet, food and water.

          “These crimes are perpetrated from the time of arrest, during transfer and interrogation, to obtain a confession but also on an arbitrary basis as testified by several Israeli soldiers as well as during pretrial detention.”

          we have documented time and again stuff like this: link to mondoweiss.net

          watch it, watch how they pile on this kid! and he was jailed for over a month before the video was released! and the soldiers lied, there was no evidence he was throwing rocks. and now they are charging children, 16 years old with no eye witness accounts of murder!

          and the UN bodies issuing these reports have done what to change this besides issuing reports? so at what point is ok to just scream! we are not bots. maybe you should listen to the kind of reactions a NORMAL person might have to this kind of information over and over and over and over with NO RELIEF in site. this is a state system of abuse.

          Come forth mister and missus israel and explain to us this ugly thing you call your ‘jewish democracy’.

          so what should we do? be patient? for a few more DECADES while another generation of children grows up with superbully gangs hunting them down?

          May zionist israel overdose on it’s own cruelty and die a memorable and horrendous death.

          well, personally i would not wish a horrendous death on anyone, nor do i think zionist israel should overdose on it’s own cruelty. but die? the zionist regime? well, there’s not a lot of indication at this juncture zionism can be rehabilitated. rehabilitated is the wrong word because it’s always acted as a racist enterprise. if it was a whole generation of jewish children (make that numerous generations) would you seek to rehabilitate their tortures or kill off the system that abused them? zionism has no inherent right to exist. it’s perfectly reasonable to want that system completely eradicated. and i dare say if it was, i too would dance on it’s grave.

        • yrn says:

          “yrn, it’s true her words are inflammatory. and, i think it’s important to take into account people are not bots. sometimes they react in ways that could be construed as not promoting dialogue.”

          Well you call it Not promoting Dialogue.
          Words like “die a memorable and horrendous death.”
          “May Israel never ever ever ever EVER live in peace.”
          “may I live to see the day when all the children of Palestine dance on its grave.”

          Means people here can freely post Hate posts against Jews and it’s legitimate for this blog as you mentioned “people are not bots. sometimes they react in ways that could be construed as not promoting dialogue.”

        • American says:

          ”zionism has no inherent right to exist. it’s perfectly reasonable to want that system completely eradicated. and i dare say if it was, i too would dance on it’s grave.”..annie

          Count me in on that grave dancing. It should be clear to everyone by now that Zionism is nothing but a ethnic criminal Cult that cares nothing about the lives of anyone including Jews. Everyone and everything is expendable in their power seeking cult enterprise.
          The sooner the Cult is destroyed… the better.

        • Hate posts against Jews

          yrn, calm down. she wrote ‘it’s grave’ . she’s not talking about the death of jews. she’s talking about zionism. here’s your first clue: “Zionism is so disgusting! ” here’s the second: “And it’s about time it died –” 3rd: “May zionist israel overdose on it’s own cruelty”

          think metaphor. political systems don’t actually have physical graves, nor do they have blood. but they can draw blood. like this: link to facebook.com

          this is what your zionism has led to. and stuff like this is all too common link to economist.com

          this difference in this last example being..when the victim turns out to be jewish the excuse is ‘we thought he was a terrorist’ whereas when the victim is palestinians the explanation is generally ‘he was a terrorist’. it’s racist apartheid and deserves to be buried (figuratively speaking).

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “Means people here can freely post Hate posts against Jews”

          You’re out of your mind, and you’re committing a slander. Taxi’s statements were clearly and specifically not aimed “against Jews” but against “Israel” which is a non-corporal state construct. It is a legal fiction. A governmental entity. And, yes, when such a construct acts in an evil fashion — even on which is created and run by Jews — it is the duty of every rational person to wish it end its evil or end its existence.

          The real question is why you are defending that evil…

        • seafoid says:

          YRN

          What sort of Israel could actually live in peace?
          Isn’t it time for another invasion of Lebanon?

        • Cliff says:

          yrn,

          you are not concerned with dialogue with the Palestinians

          unless you call talking them to death in the piece process, ‘dialogue’

          you want their land without them on it

          so don’t pretend to give a **** about ‘dialogue’

          you are a thief

        • Ecru says:

          Wishing the state of Israel dead is not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination as wishing Jewish people dead. The Scottish and Welsh independence movements would like the United Kingdom to die – they’re not suggesting murder and neither is Taxi. What’s more – you know it. You just want to throw some “boo hoo anti-semitic” hogwash around. Are you trying to get yourself on the list as Abe Foxman’s stand-in or something?

          As for “not promoting dialogue” since when are you or ANY Zionist ever interested in dialogue? Pull the other one – it’s got bells on.

        • talknic says:

          yrn “Words like “die a memorable and horrendous death.””

          Your dishonesty appears to be impeccable. It was specific to ‘zionist israel’ Here verbatim “May zionist israel overdose on it’s own cruelty and die a memorable and horrendous death. ”

          Yes please, the Zionist regime illegally in Jerusalem has caused enough death and destruction already, it is quite deserving of a long painfilled and horrendous death for having ripped off Jewish Israeli citizens by selling them land in non-Israeli territory. Purposefully endangering Israeli Jews by encouraging them to settle in non-Israeli territory. Robbing Israelis of their constitution and thus a legally elected government for 65 years. Lying to Israeli citizens and the world about its borders. Not to mention the vile crimes visited on the Palestinians.

          I suggest it be executed in the full glare of the public by first being booted out of the UN. Then having every one of its stinking lies headlined in every new service across the world. One lie per day. Mind you it’ll take a few decades. Watching it squirm under all that egg and under the financial weight of all those long over due Palestinian reparations as it tries to resettle all those ripped off Israeli citizens back in Israel would be a delight to behold. Then I might go visit Israel ….. after visiting Palestine first

          “Means people here can freely post Hate posts against Jews….”

          Quote a hate post from here against Jews …. thx

      • American says:

        ‘yrn says:
        June 21, 2013 at 4:50 am

        Tazi I agree with every word.
        You are completley not surprising , we always knew what the other side thinks.
        You just said it all.”">>>>

        Well Taxi isnt alone and her opinion is increasingly the opinion of the world’s majority on Zion Israel.
        There are what?…12 or 13 million Jews in the world…6 or 7 million of them Israeli Zionist?.
        And about 8 billion ‘Others’ in the world.
        Do the numbers, your never going to prevail ‘against’ the world majority.
        Reform yourselves while you still have the chance.

        • eljay says:

          >> May israel never ever ever ever EVER live in peace.

          I disagree with statement. I would rather see a day when Israel – having assumed responsibility and accountability for it actions, and having reformed itself from a supremacist “Jewish State” into a secular, democratic and egalitarian state of and for all its citizens, equally – will live in peace with all its neighbours.

          IMO, “Jewish State” must go, but Israel should remain.

    • jon s says:

      Taxi, Your sick, blood-thirsty hatred is what’s disgusting.
      Unlike you I hope and pray for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims and Christians live in peace.

      • jon, does the “sick, blood-thirsty hatred” behind the torture of children disgust you also? or mainly just this reaction to it. your selective disgust is glaring.

        what do you think of the jewish israeli “sick, blood-thirsty hatred” that’s developed this system of child abduction torture and confinement? no comment about that?

        and by all means explain to us what makes taxi’s reaction “blood-thirsty”. that’s not really a descriptor i’m familiar with you using with any israel supporters. or are they all sparkling compared to taxi’s alleged bloodlust?

        • jon s says:

          Annie, I’m sure you know that I’m horrified by any mistreatment of children, wherever and whenever, no exceptions.
          If any “Israel supporter” would wish the other side a “memorable and horrendous death” (Taxi’s exact words), I’m sure we would all condemn such expressions. Certainly I would.
          What about you, Annie? Or don’t you think Taxi’s words qualify as being blood-thirsty?

        • tree says:

          Annie, I’m sure you know that I’m horrified by any mistreatment of children, wherever and whenever, no exceptions.

          So, jon, then why no comment about the IDF’s torture of children? The damage done by the torture of just one child is eons beyond the damage to your sensibilities by a comment on an internet blog. And yet you chose only to blast the comment as disgusting, as opposed to what Taxi found to be disgusting: the torture of children. It appears as if you find a random angry comment to be more disgusting than child torture.

        • What about you, Annie? Or don’t you think Taxi’s words qualify as being blood-thirsty?

          jon, do you or do you not use the term “blood-thirsty hatred” when addressing jewish violence? ever? seriously, you’re acting like a drama queen.

          as a rule i don’t use terms like ‘bloodthirsty’ nor do i think this way unless i’m reading an anne rice book. please just link to some example of you referencing jewish violence as bloodthirsty because i need more context as this kind of lingo is generally reserved for accusations towards non jews (by jews) who use the bloodlibel accusations. i don’t like blood and would never even consider being a nurse for that very reason. so no, calling for a horrendous death of zionism is not bloodthirsty. it’s like calling for a horrendous death for apartheid. myself, i’d just call for the death of it. much simpler.

        • tree, jon had no reason to comment on this thread prior to taxi’s statement. he’s here to monitor the discourse and interject inflammatory ‘hate bloodthirsty’ crap. it’s called creating a false equivalence. between him and yrn’s always knew what the other side thinks the intention is clear. to try to mitigate the damage done on these reports by making sweeping broad brush suggestions the other side (us) is somehow worse or of the same ilk as these child torturers.

          besides, it’s all well and good to make sweet statements like ” I’m horrified by any mistreatment of children” but a statement like that holds no water when his alleged ‘horror’ is not even expressed once during the first 12 hours this article was sitting here.

        • yrn says:

          Annie

          Read Taxi words again
          “May israel never ever ever ever EVER live in peace. May zionist israel overdose on it’s own cruelty and die a memorable and horrendous death. ”
          You Mention
          “calling for a horrendous death of zionism is not bloodthirsty”.
          My Mother language is not English.
          But do you see Death of Zionism, equal to the death of “zionist israel”.

          Give me a break, Taxi wants the death of ISRAEL.
          You want the death of Zionism.
          And you defend him in such a way, I am not surprised then, that this is the answer you gave jon.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “If any ‘Israel supporter’ would wish the other side a ‘memorable and horrendous death’ (Taxi’s exact words), I’m sure we would all condemn such expressions.”

          That was not Taxi’s exact words, because you excised the part where she specified that she was talking about the non-living governmental entity called “Israel,” while you paint it as if she wished for the wide-spread death of people.

          But I guess it’s more important to you to devote your time to you panties being in a knot about Taxi, rather than expressing other than cursory condemnation of mistreatment of children. (And don’t think it’s lost on us that you didn’t actually condemn THIS mistreatment of these specific children by israel, but make a blanket statement which still permits to weasily argue, as zios are wont to do, that this torture and mistreatment didn’t happen…)

        • yrn, i fixed your quote because i am certain it was not your intent to misquote taxi. btw, if you don’t think capital letters mean anything don’t use them. but if you quote someone you can’t interchange capital letters as it suits your purpose. use single quotes if you’re paraphrasing.

          My Mother language is not English.

          not a problem.

          You Mention
          “calling for a horrendous death of zionism is not bloodthirsty”.

          exactly, just like calling for a horrendous death of communism is not bloodthirsty. it’s like squeezing blood out of a turnip. if something has no blood (like a political system) technically one can’t thirst for blood that isn’t there.

          But do you see Death of Zionism, equal to the death of “zionist israel”.

          well yeah. i’m not sure how israel could exist as a zionist state if there was an end to zionism.

          i’d like to state for the record if zionism were to exist without being racist (like on some island somewhere) i would not have a problem with it. i’ve stated this before. i’m not calling for the death of zionism. my sentiments are not in synchronization with taxi’s. however, do i think zionism deserves to die? yes.

          also, i see a distinction between the end of zionist israel and then end of israel. i think israel can exist without being zionist. for example, if there were equal right there for all people (end the 57 laws that privilege jews) then israel would still exist and zionism would not. and it wouldn’t have to be any kind of horrendous death either. this would be my preference.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          But do you see Death of Zionism, equal to the death of “ZIONIST ISRAEL”.

          Give me a break, Taxi wants the death of ISRAEL.
          You want the death of Zionism.

          Yes, and it is exactly analogous to, twenty years ago, wanting the death of the USSR and the death of Russian Communism. Only a fool would believe that this is a call for anyone to die. But because you are a fan (and beneficiary) of the evil racist system we’re talking about, you get defensive. Grow up and grow a conscience.

        • seafoid says:

          Zionism is going to die anyway. It’s a 1940s ideology. It’s as if Judaism had been redesigned by Dick Cheney.

          Judaism will continue. But Zionism won’t be there to butcher the neighbours into submission. It will be better for everyone.
          Zionism has proved itself incapable of running a country.

        • Cliff says:

          jon s,

          why aren’t you commenting first on this story?

          instead of the horrifying news that israel is once again abusing Palestinian children

          you chose to first respond to taxi

          and instead of identifying ISRAEL as the abuser, you say in a whitewash:

          “annie i’m sure you know that i’m horrified by ANY mistreatment OF CHILDREN”

          so in other words, you pay lip service in the usual vague way typical of two-faced liars and propagandists of your nationalist ideology

          you can’t stomach the courage to address this story directly and talk about it directly

        • Cliff says:

          yes yrn, Israel should die a horrendous death

          Israel is a political concept

          you recognize Israel as a Jewish majority

          and a Jewish majority only exists through war and discrimination

          so yes, Israel, like the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or apartheid SA should CEASE TO EXIST

          you concern-trolls never comment on these stories

          instead you comment on comments that are borne out of anger

          but you don’t address the source which is ISRAELI CRIMES

          so instead of dealing with the underlying issue

          Taxi isn’t abusing children

          YOUR COUNTRY IS

        • Taxi says:

          jon s says: “annie i’m sure you know that i’m horrified by ANY mistreatment OF CHILDREN”

          Notice how the defender of zionist torture against Palestinian children cannot bring himself to say: ‘annie i’m sure you know that i’m horrified by ANY mistreatment of PALESTINIAN children’. You can tell it’s agonizing for him to say ‘Palestinian children”. What a heartless conman!

        • It’s as if Judaism had been redesigned by Dick Cheney.

          seafoid, you have such a way w/words.

          Zionism won’t be there to butcher the neighbours into submission.

          no, it won’t. godspeed.

        • Talkback says:

          yrn says: “Give me a break, Taxi wants the death of ISRAEL.”

          And you want former mandated unitary State of Palestine to stay dead and its people expelled. So what?

      • Sumud says:

        Unlike you I hope and pray for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims and Christians live in peace.

        I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to aspire to jon s – but I also don’t think it is going to happen until…

        zionist israel overdose[s] on it’s own cruelty and die[s] a memorable and horrendous death.

        The problem is zionism, and jewish supremacist zionists who refuse to peacefully co-exist with the indigenous occupants of mandate Palestine.

        You accuse Taxi of “sick, blood-thirsty hatred” yet there is nothing bloodthirsty about calling for the death of a dreadful idea that has created endless misery for millions of people for 7 decades now.

      • American says:

        jon s says:
        June 21, 2013 at 6:34 am

        Taxi, Your sick, blood-thirsty hatred is what’s disgusting.
        Unlike you I hope and pray for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims and Christians live in peace.>>>>

        Your continued support and excusing of Israel cancels out any of your hoping and praying.
        It’s oxymoronic..just like the oxymoronic ‘jewish and democratic state’ oxymoron.

        • seafoid says:

          ” Unlike you I hope and pray for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims and Christians live in peace”

          Sure you do Jon. Just as long as you keep that Jewish standard of living and the Palestinians give up on those stupid rights they think they deserve. And don’t even go near the RoR. And that checkpoint duty will bring peace closer. And the chip stains will come out in the bath. Are you Shimon Peres by any chance?

      • Taxi says:

        jon s,

        How about you call zionism “blood-thirty” and uber hateful?! Or you think zionism is some kinda new age pacifist philosophy?

        If nazism is still around (it got KILLED OFF, remember?!) and it was abusing jewish kids the way israel abuses Palestinian children, you’d find me at the forefront of calling for the death of nazism and nazi germany – and I have no doubt that I would get YOUR FULL SUPPORT on this 100%. It boils my blood when kids are abused – ALL KIDS, not just Palestinian children. That you want people to put their hearts and tongues on ice when it comes to israel’s abuse of children is the height of hypocrisy – shame on you and that twerp yrn!

        I really resent you conflating israel and zionism with judaism. Always hiding zionist crimes behind the back of judaism AND the holocaust, allowing therefore zionist crimes to continue and to continue without consequences. Why don’t you just stop doing this?!! It won’t kill you, you know, to occasionally spank on israel when it steps outta the line of civilized behavior.

        As to yrn and his paranoid delusion: here’s my truth on zionism buster: I don’t give a rat’s behind what religion zionists are – their religiosity means NOTHING to me. I tend to loathe people for their evil ACTIONS not for their religious belief system. Now put that in your sandwich and bite you toothless racist occupier!

      • talknic says:

        jon s I hope and pray for the day when Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims and Christians live in peace”

        Bullsh*t! You support the theft of other folk’s territory.

  6. Citizen says:

    Hey, that reminds me, what ever happened to that Girls Gone Wild fella?

    Oh, OK, here he is: link to gawker.com

  7. Taxi says:

    How effing precious that oh-so-gentle zionists like jon s and yrn take umbrage with my words but not with the long litany of diabolical and systematic child tortures that the psychotic state of israel commits regularly, as government sanctioned policy, against thousands of hapless Palestinian children. How vividly disgusting of them to get fixated on my NORMAL RESPONSE to repeated evils committed against children, instead of focusing on the criminal committing these reprehensible cruelties.

    What the heck would you, jon s and yrn , be saying if jewish kids were being horrendously traumatized and tortured by Hamas in a Hamas prisons? Emotionally and mentally scarred by the savagery of the Palestinian Authority’s Security Apparatus?!!!

    Honestly guys, you are the flipping pits! Utterly morally bankrupt! Get the freak outta my face – you will NOT silence my humanity!

    • Taxi is right to feel rage at the abuse of children. But please, do not take Taxi’s words for anything other than a desire for revenge. She favors all non Palestinian Jews being shipped out. And when she wishes for a glorious end to Zionism she is talking about dead bodies and don’t think she’s not. If yrn objects to her words as not being in the spirit of dialogue, at least give him that. Taxi’s words are the words of anger, not of dialogue. The words of revenge, not reconciliation. She is usually proud of this fact. Don’t cover it up.

      • Taxi says:

        You’re confusing, conveniently, the different between “revenge” and JUSTICE SEEKING! Or do you think people who seek justice should speak in whispers?

        And speaking of “revenge”, when can we expect zionist euro jews to stop their holocaust “revenge” campaigns against the world’s entire population of goy?

      • If yrn objects to her words as not being in the spirit of dialogue, at least give him that.

        why? jon miraculously woke from his slumber, yrn too. and lookie, we’re having dialogue tho not (shock of shock) about the systematic torture of palestinian children. taxi seems open to dialogue. and from the looks of it her comment has generated…. a lot.

        so yonah, are you interested in discussing the systematic torture of palestinian children? if you’re interested in dialogue how bout we discuss them? the children that is.

      • Sumud says:

        Taxi’s words are the words of anger, not of dialogue. The words of revenge, not reconciliation.

        No more dialogue with zionists – it is a cover for MORE ethnic cleansing, MORE house demolitions, MORE land theft, MORE resource theft, MORE settlements, MORE raw settler sewage polluting the West Bank, MORE crippled economy, MORE testing weapons on a captive population, MORE apartheid, MORE murder, MORE torturing children.

        Reconciliation comes after.

        You better believe it, a righteous anger is building around the world about Israel’s disgusting behaviour.

  8. yrn says:

    See your crowd, one by one, NO more Dialogue, as they ever wanted Dialogue.
    I think you better change your about main issue
    “To publish a diversity of voices to promote dialogue on these important issues.”

    • Cliff says:

      Oh still whining about dialogue whilst Jewish colonies expand?

      Still not going to address the topic?

    • Taxi says:

      yrn,

      Did anyone “dialogue with nazi Germany in 1942?

    • See your crowd, one by one, NO more Dialogue

      there you go again. not satisfied with your ‘big catch–proof’ you need to lasso the whole team. there is no one by one. besides, you’re not even interested in dialoguing about the topic yrn(remember the topic, israel systematic child torture, abduction and imprisonment?). ‘dialogue’ is not some alleged entrapment or gotcha/recognition we’re all genocidal* maniacs or something. and your tag team buddy jon comes in and raised the stakes with his ‘bloodthirsty hate’ comment. that’s not dialogue. do you think we’re all idiots?

      there are other sites where you can go myopically discuss the ‘deligitimizers’ in code or otherwise. we’re here to discuss the articles. if you have any kind of defense for israel torturing children and stealing them for months on end–have at it! but what’s the point of dialoguing about your trumped up broad brush allegations? that’s not dialogue.

      *one of the stake-raising comments that landed in the trash.

      • yrn says:

        Annie Robbins
        Did Haj Amin al-Husseini had a dialogue with Nazi Germany in 1942 or not.
        Is it the question Taxi asked ?
        When I have a question for her you interfere ?? .
        When I answer her you delete.
        What is wrong with my answer to Taxi question .
        Are you afraid of the answer.

        • yrn, i am not the sole moderator controlling this dialogue but i do have access to the trashed comments. whoever trashed your comment definitely made the right choice for you did a lot more than ask taxi a question. if you get a comment trashed try try again. and we’re not dailykos here, iow we don’t waste endless bandwidth on what’s ‘fair’.

          ;) have a good day!

          edit: and what on earth does your question have to do with israel torturing kids for decades? is this your idea of ‘dialogue?’

        • Taxi says:

          yrn,

          According to your known propaganda Haj Amin was ‘friends’ with nazi Germany and would therefore NOT need to “dialogue”.

          I’ll clarify my question further: Did the euro jews seek to ‘dialogue’ with hitler in 1942?

        • yrn says:

          Dear Taxi

          According to your known propaganda Haj Amin was ‘friends’ with nazi Germany.
          So because you mention it is Known Propaganda , according to your facts and Knowledge.
          Was Haj Amin ‘friends’ with nazi Germany?
          and why?
          Regarding jews seek to dialogue with Hitler in 1942?
          No idea that the JEWS had a Dialogue with Hitler, you can always contribute to the readers.
          Why and how ?

  9. Ecru says:

    Isn’t it telling that the Ziombies refuse to address the issue at hand and only want to wail about words they find “offensive”. Why is that I wonder? Could it be they can’t discuss the despicable abuse of Palestinian children without revealing they can’t see the problem humanity has with it since for them, if a Jew’s the one doing it it simply can’t be wrong?