Americans oppose Netanyahu invite 2-to-1, but Dershowitz is all for it

Spiegel online interviewed Isaac Herzog, the Labor leader in the election campaign in Israel. He says that Benjamin Netanyahu should cancel his scheduled speech to Congress next month:

I think it is totally unnecessary. He should cancel this speech. This appearance in Congress is adverse to Israeli interests and will only hamper further the relations between the government of Israel and the US administration.

An important CNN poll is out showing that overwhelmingly Americans regard the invitation to Netanyahu to speak to both house of Congress to attempt to overturn our president’s policy re Iraq as inappropriate, 63 to 33,  and that an even larger number of Americans wants the U.S. to be neutral in the Israel-Palestine conflict. From CNN:

A large majority of Americans believe that Republican congressional leaders should not have invited Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak to Congress without consulting the White House, according to a new CNN/ORC survey.

The nationwide poll, released Tuesday, shows 63% of Americans say it was a bad move for congressional leadership to extend the invitation without giving President Barack Obama a heads up that it was coming. Only 33% say it was the right thing to do.

“The endgame on Iran is coming, and that’s what’s driving this,” Aaron David Miller says to Wolf Blitzer, at the link. (One pro Israel guy talking to another, that’s the discourse.)

The CNN poll– 1000 people between Feb. 12-15–  also shows greater distance from Israel among young people.

But Americans overall believe the U.S. should stay out of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with 66% in the new poll advocating the U.S. remain neutral. Of those who do support picking a side, the majority, 29%, back Israel, while only 2% support Palestine…

And a significant age gap suggests U.S. sentiment may, in the long term, be moving further in favor of neutrality in the conflict. While 56% of those age 50 or older believe the U.S. should stay out of the Israeli-Palestinian fight, that number skyrockets to 75% of Americans under age 50.

The New York Times has a piece up (echoing the Washington Post’s David Ignatius) saying that the U.S. is freezing Netanyahu out on details of its diplomatic plans. And why the hell wouldn’t you, if the man is coming to torpedo your policy? David Sanger reports:

With the Obama administration racing to negotiate the outlines of a nuclear deal with Iran by the end of March, aides to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel have charged in recent days that they are being deliberately left in the dark about the details of the talks. The Americans have said that is untrue, but even one of Washington’s closest negotiating partners reports being warned about being too open with the Israelis, “because whatever we say may be used in a selective way.”

The tensions between the United States and Israel over negotiating with Tehran have a long and twisted history, and they plunged to a new low when Mr. Netanyahu engineered an invitation to address a joint meeting of Congress, in less than two weeks, to warn against a “bad deal.”

Now, with Mr. Netanyahu maneuvering to survive a March 17 election, and Mr. Obama pressing for a breakthrough agreement that could end three decades of enmity with Iran and reduce the chances of a military confrontation, it seems that Washington and Jerusalem are engaging in the diplomatic equivalent of posting notes to each other on the refrigerator door.

Netanyahu continues to be great copy, though. Slate:

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sara spent $68,000 in two years on makeup, hairstyling, and “presentation,” a report by the country’s comptroller says.

This on top of the bottle-deposit scandal. Delish:

It emerged on Wednesday [late January] that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s wife, Sara Netanyahu, kept thousands of shekels from deposits on empty bottles that were returned, on her orders, to supermarkets in Jerusalem over the course of several years even though the bottle deposits were state property.

Mort Klein of the Zionist Organization of America on the Steve Malzberg show last week spoke of the pressure on Netanyahu to cancel. Missed this:

“The odds are 50/50 that he will come and 50/50 he’ll back out. He’s under enormous pressure now from many political people and Jewish leaders.”

That was before Netanyahu doubled down, said he was coming. Here’s some of his advance work, on twitter:

This isn’t a partisan issue. It isn’t a Democratic issue; it’s not a Republican issue. It’s an Israeli issue. It’s an American issue.

And:

It’s a global issue. We believe the current proposal by the P5+1 to Iran is dangerous to Israel, to the region and the peace of the world.

I’m not going to believe that till Jeffrey Goldberg says so.

Also folks keep sending me this link to a story that the Obama administration is giving it to Israel by declassifying a document about Israeli nukes from 1987. Mark Gaffney says Obama is playing hardball with Israel, at last.

Finally. After many years of official hypocrisy, a US president appears to be playing hardball with Israel. The other day, the US government declassified a 1987 report documenting Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program.

Dubious in Dubuque– I’m told that the same doc showed up in a 1989 NYT story.

 

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My favorite tweet wrt the Netanyahu excesses came from Yousef Munayyer:

“He just couldn’t resist Abouelafiya’s manaeesh RT @washingtonpost:Netanyahu spent $24,000 on takeout food http://wapo.st/17pPZ6L

https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/568042767936573440

A great rundown, Phil. You are especially humorous today! So wry:

“I’m not going to believe that till Jeffrey Goldberg says so.”

lolol!

Only 2 per cent of Americans support the Palestinian side? That is very sad, and very telling. Neutrality will not occur till more Americans support the Palestinian side to counterbalance the zealots on the other side. I think a little truth telling about things like the USS Liberty, the Iraq War and 9/11 could shift support among a lot of Americans.

I posted this on another thread but it is more suited to this newer thread.

The head of Israel’s election commission acted on Monday to limit any pre-election boost Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may get from a March 3 speech to the U.S. Congress, in which he will warn of the threat from Iran’s nuclear program.

The speech has caused controversy in Israel and the United States, where Democrats and the White House are angry that the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner, invited Netanyahu to speak at a sensitive time in the nuclear negotiations between Iran and six big powers including Washington, and only two weeks before Israel’s closely fought March 17 election.

Following complaints from opposition parties, election commission chief Salim Joubran decided that Netanyahu’s address should be broadcast with a five-minute delay in Israel, giving news editors time to cut any statements deemed partisan.

“Editors-in-chief of broadcast channels will watch and make sure that nothing the prime minister says can be construed as election campaigning,” Joubran said in a statement. “Any campaigning will be omitted from the broadcast.”AJ

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/2/16/israeli-election-chief-puts-curbs-on-netanyahu-speech-to-congress.html

Poor nettie , anti semites coming at him from all directions.F–k them bibi, you go get those congress critters—please.

that number skyrockets to 75% of Americans

The trajectory is clear as the younger generation doesn’t buy into hasbara. The old farts need to die for there to be peace on Earth.

“In an unusually harsh attack by an American politician on an Israeli prime minister, former Vermont governor and Democratic chairman Howard Dean lambasted Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday, describing him as “a disaster” whose decision to address Congress in March was “a stupid thing to do that has harmed U.S.-Israeli relations greatly.”

“I don’t trust Netanyahu. I think he’s not served Israel well,” Dean added.

In an appearance on MSNBC’s Morning Joe program, the outspoken Dean, who was a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, said, “It’s outrageous what’s going on. Imagine Obama going to Israel two weeks before the elections and giving a speech to the Knesset where he told the Israelis how they should run their foreign policy. I think [Republican House Speaker John] Boehner was just trying to get some political advantage. I think he made a mistake but the guy who really made a mistake was Netanyahu by accepting. I think it was a really stupid thing to do and I think he’s harmed U.S.-Israeli relations greatly.””

~Running to the rescue of a foreign PM, the predictable Islamophobe, Peter King~

“Also appearing on Morning Joe was Rep. Peter King, a Republican Congressman from New York, who staunchly defended Netanyahu and the speech, while pinning the blame for tensions between Washington and Jerusalem on Obama’s shoulders. “Israel has been a bipartisan issue, but this administration has been hostile to Netanyahu since 2009, when there was a suggestion of moral equivalency between Israel and the Palestinians as well as the snubs that have been given to Netanyahu.”

“But apart from that we are now racing to an agreement with Iran,” King added, “and it’s important for the American people to hear his version of why he thinks it’s wrong. Israel is threatened by it, and I think having the foremost leader of an ally in the region come and explain why this agreement is dangerous is important to the American people as an educational tool.””

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.643068?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter