As Dems vote against Palestine, Cornel West warns it is the ‘Vietnam War’ of our time

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In the continuing saga of the presence of Palestine in the Democratic Party platform, Clintonites on the platform committee yesterday voted down any reference to settlements and occupation and the misery of Gaza in the draft document. Progressives booed and shouted about the influence of AIPAC, the Israel lobby group, and a dozen stormed out of the hall in Orlando, FL, CNN reports.

Cornel West and Maya Berry of the Arab American Institute made inspiring speeches, to naught. West said that Palestine has become the “Vietnam War” issue for young Americans, to raucous applause. And said that the Democratic Party’s indifference to Palestinian rights recalled the party’s indifference to “these Negroes” in the Jim Crow era.

Here is video of yesterday’s meeting. Consideration of Israel/Palestine planks begins at 7:38:30.

The proposed language, “an end to occupation and illegal settlements,” draws strong applause from the gallery. Maya Berry of the Arab American Institute speaks for the resolution.

“This does not have to be a controversial, contentious amendment. We are simply stating a matter of fact. There is an occupation. More than 4 million people live under occupation.”

Berry quotes Hillary Clinton’s own words on the humiliations of occupation, also Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai. She says this amendment is easy: “This is not something that warrants us taking each other apart on.”

Cornel West speaks inspiringly at 7:44, and explains that this is a “moral issue.” And that the party has been in denial too long about Palestinian rights.

Both groups have been terrorized and traumatized and stigmatized. But when you talk about occupation. If there was a Palestinian occupation of Jewish brothers and sisters, we ought to be morally outraged. If there is an Israeli occupation of Palestinian brothers and sisters we ought to be morally outraged. This is a moral issue. It’s an issue of our time, and it has spiritual and moral implications. It’s not just about politics. Not just about the next election. And for the younger generation it is becoming more and more what Vietnam was to the 60s or what South Africa was for the 80s. [Rousing cheers]

Democratic Party, you’ve been in denial too long, Palestinians ought to be free.

Former ambassador Nancy Soderbergh speaks against the amendment at 7:47. She says the amendment “undermines the ability” of the United States president to lead negotiations toward an end to the conflict.

The resolution was then voted down, 95-73.

Debate over Maya Berry’s resolution calling for the rebuilding of Gaza, because the U.N. reports that it is becoming uninhabitable, begins at 7:52.

“This is a territory twice the size of D.C. This is a humanitarian plea to do the right thing. It does not impact the other language… It merely suggests that we have a heart and compassion and we’re capable of applying it to both Palestinians and Israelis.”

West then gives a speech that will be watched down through the ages. You can start now, at 7:55. He begins by quoting Rabbi Abraham Heschel saying that indifference to evil is more evil than evil itself. He describes the repeated assaults on Gaza:

Over 2000 were killed and over 500 babies killed and not a word from our political elite.

What is going on in this country What is going on among our elite, are we so paralyzed? Are we so debilitated by either the money flowing or indifference in our hearts, I would hope not. That’s what the legacy of Martin Luther King and Dorothy Day and so many others was all about….

If we are not able to deal with that then we’re in the same condition this party was in 80 years ago when it didn’t want to deal with Jim Crow, didn’t want to deal with lynching, locked in a state of denial and saying, Somehow these Negroes are going to make it through with this misery. We refuse. I refuse to reach that conclusion.

Phyllis Bennis quotes Cornel West saying the vote reflects racism.

The occupation is now nearly 50 years old, but the Democrats cannot come out against it. This is surely about fundraising for the Democrats. Note two liberal Dems saying this spring that the role of Jewish pro-Israel money in Democratic fundraising is “gigantic” and “shocking.”

CNN’s Eric Bradner reports that when the Clinton team brought down the hammer, there were the loudest boos of the day.

Clinton’s backers argued that the current language in the party’s platform, calling for negotiations for a two-state solution in Israel to give Palestinians a homeland, are enough and that going further would inflame tensions and undercut U.S. diplomats’ ability to lead future negotiations.

 But Bernie Sanders’ supporters — as well as dozens of young people in the crowd in an Orlando hotel ballroom for the Democratic National Committee’s platform drafting committee’s two-day meeting — said the language they’d proposed simply repeated a position Clinton herself has taken in the past…
The amendment was voted down, 73-95. Its rejection led to the loudest boos of the day, with one man being escorted out after he stood up and declared that Democrats had “sold out to (American Israel Public Affairs Committee).”
A furious group of more than a dozen young people who’d been in the audience stormed out of the room, some shouting at the delegates.

In a longer analysis at the Nation, Bennis says the party platform includes some “significant progressive positions,” but it folded on antiwar issues. On Palestine, this defeat is actually a movement victory, she reasons, inasmuch as the left has managed to get reference Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions into the Democratic Party platform because it is a powerful movement that the establishment needs to attack.

The US wars were hardly mentioned, but Israel-Palestine, for so long excluded from any mainstream debate, was a major focus of the committee’s public hearings.

Pro-Israel lobbies and Clinton’s support for Israeli occupation and apartheid stymied a progressive position on Palestine.

The reason is easy to see. The movement to end US support for Israeli occupation and apartheid and to support Palestinian rights is at this moment probably the only part of the broad anti-war/anti-militarism movement that is really on the rise. It’s energetic, empowered, creative, and grounded largely among young people, many of them people of color. It’s had enormous successes in recent years, resulting in massive shifts in public discourse on this issue. The strength of that movement is certainly a large part of the reason that Bernie Sanders chose Jim Zogby and Cornel West, longtime supporters of Palestinian rights, among his appointees to the platform committee. Their presence on the committee, reflecting the Palestinian rights movement outside, transformed the debate.

The success of the movement, and the presence of West and Zogby on the platform committee, resulted in a huge reversal of position, in which the issues of Palestinian rights, Israeli violations of international law, and the problems caused by US support for Israel were all central and mainstream discussion points. So even though plenty of people inside the DC bubble either ignore or are unaware of the shift in public discourse, and apparently still believe that criticizing Israel constitutes political suicide, Palestinian rights and the need to change US support for Israel, were in the platform debate—because there was a powerful movement demanding it.

Bennis notes that the platform parrots Netanyahu and AIPAC in its support for the “Jewish and democratic state,” thereby legitimizing apartheid. But it shows the power of the BDS movement.

The broad opposition to UN efforts to identify and condemn Israel’s violations of human rights and international law is an outrage for a party that claims, elsewhere in the platform, to “believe that global institutions and multilateral organizations have a powerful role to play” (even if they go on to define them narrowly as “an important amplifier of American strength and influence”).

The specific condemnation of BDS reflects, on the one hand, the growing influence of the global BDS movement in the United States. The movement, based on a call from Palestinian civil society in 2005, brings nonviolent economic, cultural, and academic pressure to bear on Israel until it ends three sets of violations of international law: the 1967 occupation, the discrimination against Palestinians inside Israel, and the denial of the Palestinian refugees’ right of return. The movement is growing around the world and is particularly strong in Europe, and the result has been recognition by many Israeli officials and analysts that it is this nonviolent movement, much more than the threat of military attack from Iran or anywhere else, that threatens Israel by undermining the legitimacy of its actions. But the rising power of BDS has led to a harsh backlash from Israel’s supporters, and the inclusion of a specific anti-BDS reference in the platform reflects the power of uncritically pro-Israel forces in the Democratic Party and points to the increasing repression facing BDS activists across the United States and around the world. As governments give in to pressure from pro-Israel forces to stamp out BDS, the result is a serious threat to First Amendment rights in places like New York and other states and on college campuses across the United States.

Despite the terrible language, though, it’s still an important victory that the issue of Palestine and Palestinian rights played such a central public role in the debate over platform language. It’s a lesson for those of us who work in the Palestine and broader anti-war movements for sure, but for all of our movements too. It shows us how the lack of our attention—movement attention—and reliance solely on elected officials’ own priority choices mean that way too many of our issues will continue to be ignored. But it also shows us how a powerful movement—even one that has not yet succeeded at changing actual policy—can have enormous influence on the debates at the highest levels of power. Bernie Sanders’s campaign certainly played a part in it—but it’s our movements that matter most.

This vote would seem to be reminiscent of the Gov. Andrew Cuomo rebuke of BDS last month: the establishment is transparently corrupted on this issue, and the movement is strong.

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  1. Blownaway
    July 10, 2016, 2:52 pm

    I appreciate Phil’s positive take on this debacle but it’s still polishing a turd. The best thing that can happen actually is for the US to be booted out of the “peace process” business

    • amigo
      July 10, 2016, 2:58 pm

      “The best thing that can happen actually is for the US to be booted out of the “peace process” business.” Blownaway.

      Hear , Hear.

    • Kay24
      July 10, 2016, 3:48 pm

      Good point. We are no trustworthy negotiators who can remain neutral in these situations, and show the world that we are honest brokers, sincere enough to put the needs of the suffering first, and be firm with the occupier. We have the upper hand and can threaten to stop the flow of billions of dollars and weapons that keep going to the evil empire. They have built too many illegal settlements and killed too many civilians with what we keep sending them.

      Hillary and her ilk have lost all credibility and many votes, because of this shameless protection of an alien nation, that no one in the world respects and very much disliked. The Clintons have always shown that they will pander to those who throw campaign donations their way.
      I have lost all respect for this woman, and wish the first woman to become President, had honesty and integrity. She is a big embarrassment to the women in this country.

      • Marnie
        July 11, 2016, 1:19 am

        Blownaway, Amigo, Kay24 – amen and amen! The united states is not the moral arbiter nor has it ever been! Truthful article after article here at MW about the occupation and the united states intransigence. Fuck it – the united states will continue to do nothing unless there is an explosion of citizen’s anger and frustration with their government! This is so incredibly shameful! As Mr. West noted wrt the refusal to give African americans their rights with the wishful thinking (not giving a damn) that somehow or other Negroes (as they were called) would accept their 2nd or 3rd class citizenship and just STFU. This is the Vietnam moment. The democratic party is nothing more than a low fat, watered down without substance version of the republican party, otherwise known as likud.

        The united states can’t have any part of any process wrt Palestine – it is too corrupt and has too much Palestinian blood on its hands.

        Cornel West is so eloquent – what a treasure he is.

      • Emory Riddle
        July 11, 2016, 10:55 am

        It is infuriating to:

        1. Watch the control the racist Zionists have over the Democratic party;

        2. Watch the mainstream media bury this fact.

    • Robert D. Brooks
      July 11, 2016, 9:31 pm

      I agree, it is turd polishing. The DNC Platform Committee vote, for me, is the last straw. Heretofore I have struggled to avoid becoming a one issue voter. I will now change my registration to Independent and hope the Green party is available in Florida.

  2. amigo
    July 10, 2016, 2:55 pm

    Anyone care to tell me what exactly is the difference between the Dem,s and the GOP on the issue of Palestine.

    Even the highest court in Israel has ruled that Israel holds the Palestinians “Under Belligerent Occupation”.

    What we have here are a bunch of paid off political whores who some day will be vilified for their failure to support human rights for all and selling their dignity for a few shekels.

    The Democrats should change their party name to ” DFS”

    • Blownaway
      July 10, 2016, 5:46 pm

      But for a couple of “social issues” I defy anyone to tell me anything different between the two parties

  3. hophmi
    July 10, 2016, 3:16 pm

    Replace BDS with Nazi, and Phyllis Benni’s could have written the same article.

    Big kisses are always cast as victories among radical, who needs to tell themselves these things to keep the charade going.

    But their movement remains a moral outrage that most Americans view as antisemitic.

    • Dutch
      July 10, 2016, 7:25 pm

      [antisemitic]

      So ‘most Americans’ promote the Israeli crimes that are being targeted by BDS as ‘jewish crimes’. That’s a dangerous stereotype, don’t you think? Most Europeans view such standpoints as antisemitic.

    • MaxNarr
      July 11, 2016, 1:29 am

      Totally agree with hophmi and I must applaud his steadfast battle against the antisemites on this website. BDS is a moral outrage, antisemitic will be abolished worldwide.

      • Mr.T
        July 11, 2016, 10:35 am

        “BDS is a moral outrage”

        No, it’s the moral response to the moral outrage that is the creation of the Zionist state, one of the great crimes of the 20th Century.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 10:54 am

        “Totally agree with hophmi and I must applaud his steadfast battle against the antisemites on this website.”

        Even if “Hophmi” is a ‘liberal Zionist’ and is on the Board of Dectors of an outreach effort to combine Judaism and Islam?

        (PS “MaxNarr” don’t overdo it! Economy of words is your advantage. Keep blabbing, you’ll give the game away.)

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2016, 12:16 pm

        “No, it’s the moral response to the moral outrage that is the creation of the Zionist state, one of the great crimes of the 20th Century. ”

        It says a lot about you that in a Century that featured the Holocaust, the Killing Fields, Soviet repression, and countless other atrocities, you view the founding of a Jewish state as one of the great crimes of the 20th Century.

        “There was a time when it was only leveled against someone who just plain disliked or hated Jews.”

        Actually, antisemitism is a philosophy that opposes the influence of Jews and Jewish culture in society. It’s completely apropos to describe the paranoia that leads people to worry about the influence of Jews in secular society, or to put it as Keith does, “the Judaization of the elite,” because, you see, when Jews are in a position of power, they’re in a position of power as Jews, their influence is “Jewish,” and they act in their own interest, rather than the interest of the countries they inhabit. That’s how that philosophy goes.

        Some people here may find Keith’s bluntness a step too far, but he really does a very good job at doing what Phil does in a less nice and even more offensive way. He takes the euphemisms out.

        “I am actually quite proud that you once labeled something I wrote antisemitic.”

        I’m sure you are. I’m sure that you feel quite ennobled when you think you’re in the right and someone else calls you on your bias and privilege.

        “When your JSIL experiment has run its bloody course I will be proud to point to that if anyone asks me how I stood on this issue.”

        I certainly expect that you will, whether Jews are massacred in the process or not.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 1:29 pm

        “It says a lot about you that in a Century that featured the Holocaust, the Killing Fields, Soviet repression, and countless other atrocities, you view the founding of a Jewish state as one of the great crimes of the 20th Century.”

        Holy Mackeral, “Hophmi” you are hilarious! Maybe the Holocaust, the Killing fields, Soviet repression, were all part of the establishment or expansion of states?
        Maybe, just maybe The Jewish State shouldn’t repeat that history. (But here’s a tip: if you have to beg approval and permission from the world to perform atrocities to make your State, you probably shouldn’t)
        Of course, we must look at the numbers involved, living space for 200 million Jews is a hard thing to deny, a number which obviates petty notions of right and wrong.

      • eljay
        July 11, 2016, 1:39 pm

        || hophmi: … It says a lot about you that in a Century that featured the Holocaust, the Killing Fields, Soviet repression, and countless other atrocities, you view the founding of a Jewish state as one of the great crimes of the 20th Century. … ||

        It may not be “one of the great crimes of the 20th Century”, but the Zio-supremacist “Jewish State” project…
        – which includes terrorism, ethnic cleansing, occupation, colonization, devastation, oppression, torture and murder; and
        – which is almost seven decades old and shows no sign of letting up,
        …is most definitely a (war) crime in both the 20th and 21st Centuries.

        It says a lot about you that you hypocritically and steadfastly support the immorality and injustices of the colonialist and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” project and despise the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality.

        || … I’m sure that you feel quite ennobled when you think you’re in the right and someone else calls you on your bias and privilege. … ||

        That’s an excellent description of the attitude of Zio-supremacists.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 1:39 pm

        “the Judaization of the elite,”

        And if anybody tries to pin that “Judaization of the elite” stuff on Israel, they must be an antisemite! In Israel the elite are supposed to be Jewish! And not just “Judaized”, they’re Orthodox!

      • Mr.T
        July 11, 2016, 2:00 pm

        “It says a lot about you that in a Century that featured the Holocaust, the Killing Fields, Soviet repression, and countless other atrocities, you view the founding of a Jewish state as one of the great crimes of the 20th Century.”

        Oh, it wasn’t the political act of founding of the state that was the great crime, it was the oppression, murder and ethnic cleansing of the native population that accompanied the political act that was the great crime. And unless you happen to think that it is okay to oppress, murder and ethnically cleanse innocent people for political ends (or maybe you think it’s fine to do that to people other than to your people), this should not be a controversial issue. Says a lot about you that you take issue with it.

      • Keith
        July 11, 2016, 7:03 pm

        HOPHMI- “Actually, antisemitism is a philosophy that opposes the influence of Jews and Jewish culture in society.”

        It is not everyday that one hears ethnocentric tribalism and kinship nepotism described as “Jewish culture.” And all of this time I thought that was a consequence of the Zionist led resurrection of the ideology of the medieval Judaism of Maimonides. Go figure.

        HOPHMI- “It’s completely apropos to describe the paranoia that leads people to worry about the influence of Jews in secular society, or to put it as Keith does, “the Judaization of the elite,”

        My words exactly! Jeez, I can’t even celebrate the incomparable rise of Judeo-Zionist power within our society without being labeled an anti-Semite? But Hophmi, Zionist Jews ARE disproportionately powerful.

        HOPHMI- “…because, you see, when Jews are in a position of power, they’re in a position of power as Jews, their influence is “Jewish,” and they act in their own interest, rather than the interest of the countries they inhabit.”

        Surely, you will agree that Zionist Jews support Israel right or wrong? And yes, Jewish elites, like all elites, place their own interest above the 99%. And yes, most of the Jewish elites have a self-serving tribal orientation which has worked well for them, particularly recently. Unfortunately, this self-serving power-seeking is firmly anchored in imperialism which Zionist Jews loyally support. Zionism has effectively crippled progressive Jews in favor of blood and soil nationalism. Israel uber alles. No wonder you hate Phil and Noam and Norm but find it more convenient to attack me.

      • Keith
        July 11, 2016, 7:18 pm

        MAXNARR- “Totally agree with hophmi and I must applaud his steadfast battle against the antisemites on this website.”

        Well you would, wouldn’t you? So does Yonah Fredman. It says volumes about the intellectual caliber of Zionist commenters that Hophmi is who you all look up to.

      • kalithea
        July 12, 2016, 3:18 pm

        Using the label “anti-Semite” loosely to muzzle criticism and target individual criticism of Zionist injustice should be considered slander and defamatory. Actually, I would go as far as criminalizing the usage of such a label so loosely especially the act of destroying someone’s reputation and career as Zionists have repeatedly done after their tarred and feathered respected individuals to preserve their criminal operation called Zionism.

    • Qualtrough
      July 11, 2016, 3:10 am

      Hopfmi – You really are wearing out that charge. There was a time when it was only leveled against someone who just plain disliked or hated Jews. Nowadays more often than not it just means dislike or hatred of Zionists/Zionism, which is not at all the same thing as much as you would like it to be. I am actually quite proud that you once labeled something I wrote antisemitic. When your JSIL experiment has run its bloody course I will be proud to point to that if anyone asks me how I stood on this issue.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 11:04 am

        ” I am actually quite proud that you once labeled something I wrote antisemitic.”

        And I am quite proud that “Hophmi” has never, and will never label me as “anti-semitic” . He wouldn’t dare!
        He knows what will happen if he tries that!

    • Mr.T
      July 11, 2016, 8:27 am

      “Replace BDS with Nazi,”

      Dumbest statement ever.

    • Boo
      July 11, 2016, 9:38 am

      Here we go again with that conflated, overblown definition of “antisemitism”. A definition that’s so stretched and distorted as to be almost unrecognizable — a veritable political goatse.

      • eljay
        July 11, 2016, 10:45 am

        Zio-supremacist hypocrites like hophNarr (Maxmi?) despise and routinely rail against the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality. They believe that people who choose to be Jewish are entitled:
        – to a religion-supremacist state in as much as possible of Palestine; and
        – to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

        MaxNarr playing Chester to hophmi’s Spike is amusing. :-)

    • Marnie
      July 11, 2016, 1:04 pm

      I don’t think americans are quite as stupid as you treat them hophni.

      • Citizen
        July 12, 2016, 5:20 pm

        I do think most Americans pay no attention at all to foreign policy unless they, or their family members and friends are getting drafted, or in danger of being drafted. Major obsessions are jobs & related education, sports, child-rearing, female apparel,fashion.

      • Marnie
        July 13, 2016, 1:07 am

        You’re right on that – too many other worries.

        But being burdened by financial and health concerns and being stupid are two different things. I work in health care and am shocked at the horrible choices people have to make, i.e., not taking medication because the cost is prohibitive (see this a lot more than I feel comfortable with), not getting treatment needed or that operation, no insurance, etc.

        If the united states provided all of its citizens with universal health care like the UK or France and free college, I’d bet Americans would be a heck of a lot more invested and interested in world affairs. It’s incredible what you have time for when you aren’t under the oppression of poverty and bad health.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 13, 2016, 1:41 am

        But being burdened by financial and health concerns and being stupid are two different things.

        actually, it’s 3 different things.

      • Marnie
        July 14, 2016, 1:19 am

        Thanks for pointing that out, but I was hoping there was more to take away my post than math errors. Guess not!

      • Annie Robbins
        July 16, 2016, 1:52 pm

        marnie, i didn’t mean to imply there was no other take away. i thought about it actually (your point) and i wasn’t sure, i guess i thought it was speculative. i’m not certain if americans got free health care it would result in them thinking more about (or being more invested in) world affairs. it’s an interesting theory but i’m not sure how one would test it. while i might be thinking less about other people suffering in the world if i was sick (and couldn’t afford treatment or medicine) it might also prompt me to relate more to others suffering. either way, i totally think we should have universal health care.

  4. MHughes976
    July 10, 2016, 3:41 pm

    Not much difference between UK parties either! The Conservatives are electing a new leader – I was trying to find out what the candidates, May and Leadsome, those good Christians, had said about the ME. They both seem to be conventionally pro-Israel, though they don’t seem, as as far as I could see, to have made such a point of it as Gove or Johnson, who have assassinated each other.

    • amigo
      July 10, 2016, 4:16 pm

      Hello MHughes, Not being a UK resident , I skipped over all the parochial politics and tried to find their respective views on the P/I subject.

      Found this on Theresa May.Didn,t check Leadsom–doesn,t look like she will win.
      You might use this link to get an insight.She starts with thanking the ” Conservative friends of Israel ” who she refers to as “fellow conservative FOI ” and moves on to talk about Israel,s right to security and a quick reference to the Palestinian “desire” for self representation.No right offered there. Musn,t upset the hosts with such nonsense.

      If you haven,t read it , here is the link. 2 minute read.

      http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/may-conservative-israel/

      Btw , is there a “UKIP AC” ?.

    • RoHa
      July 11, 2016, 11:01 pm

      This article suggests that the loathsome May is a staunch Zionist.

      http://www.redressonline.com/2016/07/watch-new-uk-prime-minister-theresa-may-pledges-loyalty-to-israel/

      I don’t know much about the (probably equally loathsome) Leadsom, but I would not be surprised to find a fair amount of sucking up to Israel in her background as well.

  5. Henry Norr
    July 10, 2016, 4:35 pm

    I wrote an op-ed for the East Bay Times (the successor to the late, unlamented Oakland Tribune and several other local papers) calling out our Congressional Rep, Barbara Lee, for voting with the Clinton gang against the Sanders appointees on Palsestine and on TPP at the meeting last month of the 15-member committee that worked on the draft. I made it excruciatingly respectful of Ms. Lee, first of all in hopes of getting it into a mainstream pub, and because I hoped to reach some of the many local progressives who think she’s god.

    http://www.eastbaytimes.com/opinion/ci_30103083/commentary-tpp-and-palestine-barbara-lee-doesnt-speak

    I hope other people will find ways to protest these votes to anyone from their area who voted against the amendment about the occupation and settlements, as well (at least to my mind) anyone who voted against the rejection of TPP and against Bill McKibben’s proposals for a fracking moratorium and a ban on leasing of federal lands for fossil fuel extraction. In most cases – at least in the previous meeting, and I’ll bet in this weekend’s also – it was the same people voting against all the Sanders amendments. In a way, that’s to our advantage, as it gives us more chances (as the Sanders campaign in general has) to cement the connection between the cause of Palestine and other progressive causes.

    • MHughes976
      July 10, 2016, 5:45 pm

      Well done, Henry, for getting into that mainstream pub! You will have made many people think.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2016, 12:17 pm

        Yeah, Henry, I’m sure you’ll do great calling out Barbara Lee for being insufficiently progressive. #fringeelement

      • Henry Norr
        July 11, 2016, 11:50 pm

        @hophmi: Fringe element? Remember, as I noted in the op-ed, Bernie Sanders outpolled Hillary Clinton, in Barbara Lee’s district, and I’m sure virtually all of those voters were aware of his comments on Israel and Palestine, since they were so heavily publicized. I’ll admit that only a relatively small (though growing) number of people, even in the East Bay, share anything like my own views of the situation in Israel/Palestine. But my views were not what was up for discussion in the Democratic platform committee, or in my op-ed. The contents of the amendment Lee voted against are anything but fringe politics. In fact, if you’ve watched the video Phil posted in this piece, you’ll see that even Ms. Clinton has repeatedly used the same terms the proposed amendment did. The Dems just didn’t dare include them in the platform for fear of offending the real fringe element – Haim Saban and the other rich ultra-Zionists who are providing most of the money for Clinton’s super PAC.

  6. MaxNarr
    July 10, 2016, 8:09 pm

    I feel really bad that Cornell West has sunk so low. I really enjoyed his book “Blacks and Jews” and I honestly thought he was interested in increasing our bond. It’s really sad that two groups that have so much in common, both were slaves to foreign masters, and both were pushed from our land. Now Jews have returned and we are staying. I will always appreciate the words though of the great zionist Martin Luther King. The Alice Walkers, Louis Farrakan’s and Cornell Wests of the world do no justice to Jews or Blacks!

    • lonely rico
      July 10, 2016, 10:38 pm

      >MaxNarr

      … two groups that have so much in common, both were slaves to foreign masters, and both were pushed from our (sic) land.

      I have read of the African slave trade, an appalling enterprise involving millions of Africans, thousands of ships, tens of thousands of slavers and sailors, stretching over several centuries. In passing some of the criminals involved in this ugly commerce were Jewish.
      But Max, until now I was unaware of the forcible removal of thousands/millions of the Jews from the ME. When did this happen? How was it achieved? Were there thousands of slave ships involved? Who were the depraved slavers who dealt in this bestial trade? Where did they drive these human chattels?

      • kalithea
        July 12, 2016, 3:38 pm

        ….Meanwhile Jews in present-day Israel treat Palestinians like their human chattel and then we have hastrolls here pretending kinship in oppression with Black America.

        Zionist crock.

    • Marnie
      July 11, 2016, 1:30 am

      When were you slaves? Seriously, you’re trying to make a comparison? What is your bond to ‘black’ people MaxNarr? That you stole their birthright perhaps? That some Jews bankrolled the slave trade? That some Jews lived on plantations and owned black people? If you’re going by ‘the book’ Jews weren’t ‘pushed’ out of the land but were kicked out because of their disobedience. They didn’t honor the God as they promised to do and they were forced out. Africans weren’t ‘pushed’ from their land, they were ripped from the womb of their land and taken away on ships. That never happened to white Jews.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 12:37 pm

        “What is your bond to ‘black’ people”

        Well (about 50 years ago) we used to sing “Go Down,Moses” in Hebrew school. I hasten to add this was Reform Temple.

      • kalithea
        July 12, 2016, 3:45 pm

        Zing!

        It’s truly pathetic when a hastroll has to go back over a thousand years to find a pretend link with oppression against blacks that is still happening in the present and only to satisfy a b.s. narrative that justifies the oppression by Zionist Jews of millions of Palestinians.

        Hastrolls have so much hubris they go around insulting everyone’s intelligence all day long on every site just to propagandize, aggrandize and legitimize their miserable, stinking criminal operation…Zionism.

    • Mr.T
      July 11, 2016, 8:31 am

      “Cornell West has sunk so low.”
      Sunk so low? Risen so high.

      ” I honestly thought he was interested in increasing our bond.”
      The problem is that you and those Jews who support the Israeli state have decided to join the ranks of the oppressors. Why on Earth would a good man like West lower himself to do such a thing?

      “the great zionist Martin Luther King”
      LOL!! If you think that today, after 50 years of the most brutal occupation and oppression, that King would choose the side of the brutal occupiers, you have a hole in your head.

    • Talkback
      July 11, 2016, 8:34 am

      MaxNarr : “Now Jews have returned and we are staying.”

      The problem is not that Jews have “returned” or that they are “staying”, but that racist Jews like you expelled Palestinians and prevent them from returning. And that is not the only racist crime you commit.

    • eljay
      July 11, 2016, 8:40 am

      || MaxNarr: … Now Jews have returned … ||

      “Returned” – another perfectly good English word desecrated by Zio-supremacists.

      || … and we are staying. … ||

      And not just for a decade or two, but for a Thousand Years!

      You’re funny. :-)

      • Citizen
        July 11, 2016, 11:28 am

        I remember mama, and also the thousand year third reich.

      • aloeste
        July 11, 2016, 1:00 pm

        the jews of Islamia lived as dhimmi for > 1000 years. why shouldn’t the Arabs live thusly under jewish rule?

      • eljay
        July 11, 2016, 1:27 pm

        || aloeste: the jews of Islamia lived as dhimmi for > 1000 years. why shouldn’t the Arabs live thusly under jewish rule? ||

        If dhimmi status was so great, Jews should be happy to continue to live thusly everywhere.

        If dhimmi status wasn’t so great – if it involved inequality (among other things) – no-one should have to live thusly anywhere.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2016, 1:51 pm

        “the jews of Islamia lived as dhimmi for > 1000 years. why shouldn’t the Arabs live thusly under jewish rule?”

        You guys better listen to “aloeste”! 200 million (by some estimates up to 2 billion!) Jews can easily dominate the Muslims in the Middle East.
        If it comes to war, we Jews have millions of young fighters to throw into the battle!
        And always remember, Zionist numbers and unity are assured! Judaism and Zionism is not a voluntary commitment people can back out of!

      • Mr.T
        July 11, 2016, 2:05 pm

        “the jews of Islamia lived as dhimmi for > 1000 years. why shouldn’t the Arabs live thusly under jewish rule?”

        Because it’s a violation of their human rights. The fact that your ancestors and collateral relatives suffered an oppression does not in any way, shape or form justify you in oppressing anyone else. The fact that Israeli supporters are so blind to such a basic moral concept shows the depravity of their ideology.

      • echinococcus
        July 11, 2016, 7:19 pm

        Al Oeste who sounds rather like a definitely un-Western Oriental:

        Dhimmi only means that you are a citizen who pays a tax (generally not too heavy) instead of sending your sons to die in wars. Not such a bad bargain; wherever dhimma existed there was not necessarily any other discrimination, and in most places the dhimmi were the most prosperous fraction of the population.
        Is that what the Palestinians, owners of sovereignty over all Palestine are experiencing (without even wanting to mention the fact that you colonial pirate horde have no right to be there)?
        There never was an Islamia –different countries, different sizes, different everything.
        Ignorants grown exclusively in the Zionist culture medium should keep their trap shut about things they have no friggin idea about.

    • Boo
      July 11, 2016, 9:49 am

      I feel really bad that you feel really bad. But any Narr can see that the tables have been turned.

      Most Americans, when they think of Israel at all, think of Charlton Heston as Moses. They should picture instead the Palestinians, stripped of their land and property, stripped of their precious natural resources, stripped of their human rights, as today’s slaves — and they should picture Bibi as Pharaoh, demanding that his slaves make bricks without straw — as though the Palestinians could make a life with no economic base, no resources, and no rights or protection under the law.

      Most Americans, when they think of Israel at all, think of that stirring melody and bombastic lyrics:

      “This land (Dum-da-dum-dum!)
      Is mine! (Dum-da-dum-dum!)
      God gave this land
      To me! (Dum-da-dum-dum!)”

      God gave it in the Book, yes, and took it away in the Book. Twice.
      God gave it contingent upon the people living morally with each other and with neighbors.
      God took it away — twice — because the people trampled God’s morality and God’s commandments into the dirt.
      You don’t really think the third time will be the charm, do you? Why so? Nothing’s changed.

      And your Holocaust certainly doesn’t justify your Palestinian Slowlocaust.

      Surely you can’t be surprised at the growing intersectionality between the causes of American blacks and Palestinians!

    • CigarGod
      July 11, 2016, 11:05 am

      Are you talking about Jewish slave labor in WW2, Max?
      Or are you talking about the Moses era?

      • kalithea
        July 12, 2016, 3:52 pm

        Who cares! Feed at your own risk.

    • zaid
      July 11, 2016, 11:23 pm

      “Now Jews have returned and we are staying”

      Staying only for a while since this is not their homeland in the first place.

    • kalithea
      July 12, 2016, 3:29 pm

      Ahhh ST_U!

      You! do no justice to Jews or Blacks. Blacks can only dream of having the social status Jews have today N…t w…t!

      Evil manipulation of the truth that’s your m.o. You tarnish the cause of justice for blacks in American with your fraudulent equivalency…Hastroll.

  7. Blaine Coleman
    July 10, 2016, 9:09 pm

    Your article says the BDS movement is based on a call from Palestinian civil society in 2005.

    Actually, the BDS movement was loudly promoted on some U.S. campuses from 2001 onwards.

    The first successful resolution for total divestment against Israel was approved on April 17, 2003 by the Wayne State University Student Council, in Detroit Michigan.

    You can read the Wayne State divestment resolution, as approved, here: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EbIZBUj7TAg/S9GHXfkzyeI/AAAAAAAAAIg/38lsFh4ofi0/s1600/WSU.bmp

    and here: http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/divestment-revisited/Content?mode=print&oid=2176015

    and here, at the top of the list of divestment victories: http://rahimk.tumblr.com/post/58642125362/us-student-victories-in-the-boycott-divestment

    That is why we ought to be impatient to spread the BDS movement to more campuses and city councils. 15 years is too long to wait. Many, many more BDS movements are needed. Now. This summer, before Israel bombs Gaza again.

    • echinococcus
      July 10, 2016, 11:14 pm

      Coleman,

      Of course boycott has been applied, in minor scale, in many countries including the US since 1947.

      The new management with the BDS name seems to be the one dating from 2005. And it definitely has a management problem, what with the voluntary restriction, both in the new charter and in action, to post-1967 occupation only. A boycott that agrees with the “liberal” Zionists, BTW.

    • hophmi
      July 11, 2016, 12:19 pm

      You’re absolutely right, Blaine. Now, perhaps you can admit that the idea that BDS is Palestinian-led is a bit silly.

  8. inbound39
    July 11, 2016, 1:33 am

    I cannot say I am surprised by the outcome the Dems and Clinton have chosen. What they need is the people of America to show them what they truly think come election day. Get out and protest their choice on the streets just like you did in opposing the Vietnam War…..Stop Work to Stop the Occupation.

  9. silamcuz
    July 11, 2016, 1:34 am

    Phil Weiss, do you not agree with Democratic Party on the basis of their very existence within the political framework of a settler colonial regime, is complicit in crimes that is equal or greater than that was done and being done to the Palestinians in Israel/Palestine by the Zionists?

    • Boo
      July 11, 2016, 10:05 am

      Despite the understandable claims of modern Americans that “I don’t own slaves” and “My parents immigrated after the Civil War and never owned slaves”, white privilege is real. And to the extent that the Democratic Party is led by and composed of whites, yes, of course, white privilege is very much at play and must be addressed.

      But to compare the treatment of Indians and Blacks in the first two hundred years of American history, with the treatment of Palestinians today, is to create a patently false equivalence and blatant double standard by which you apparently seek to excuse the Israeli government’s present-day abuses. Not gonna work.

      • silamcuz
        July 11, 2016, 10:27 pm

        But to compare the treatment of Indians and Blacks in the first two hundred years of American history, with the treatment of Palestinians today, is to create a patently false equivalence

        Oppressed is oppressed is oppressed is oppressed. Please do not engage in oppression olympics, there is absolutely nothing to be gained in doing so and only serve to hurt and offend those who are judged to be lesser oppressed, especially if the judgement comes from a privileged person sitting on the side of the oppressor.

        Black people and Natives have no obligation to pause their struggle and the fight for their rights until anyone you deem to be in a worse position get hold of theirs. White supremacy doesn’t care about Palestinians or the Tibetans or the Kurds, it only cares to relentlessly deprive the blacks and Natives of their full rights and privileges as fellow human-beings, as long as it remains the dominant social order.

    • Mooser
      July 11, 2016, 11:00 am

      “a settler colonial regime, is complicit in crimes that is equal or greater than that was done and being done to the Palestinians in Israel/Palestine by the Zionists?”

      The US is very powerful and big, Israel is weak and small, and Zionism is dying.
      It’ll be easy and fun to help push Israel over the cliff it’s already headed for.

    • kalithea
      July 12, 2016, 3:56 pm

      Why do I hear crickets when I should hear a resounding YESSSSSSSSS???

  10. yonah fredman
    July 11, 2016, 10:56 am

    As if the Vietnam protests did not have the aspect of a draft and a war with large losses of American lives. Vietnam altered a generation’s perceptions of government and warmaking.

    Certainly the argument about the importance of the I-P conflict/oppression can be made, but vietnam, no argument had to be made, you had to report to the draft board, it was your front page news naturally. this is entirely different.

    But of course he was cheered by the crowd and that proves the historical accuracy of his comparison.

    certainly mw is trying to give momentum to the movement that views I-P as THE issue of the day.

    • kalithea
      July 12, 2016, 4:04 pm

      So exactly how many more decades of oppression must Zionists inflict on Palestinians before it’s considered the issue of the day in your so superior opinion, because obviously you relish the luxury of time moving ever so slowly for your side and against the cause for justice for humans you really care squat about, don’t you?

      • yonah fredman
        July 12, 2016, 4:46 pm

        kalithea- I was stating the obvious. That to compare Vietnam, which effected every American male turning 18, to an issue in which the only stake is justice, is comparing apples and oranges or is comparing something that effects the selfish aspect of a person rather than the selfless aspect.

        in the 1960’s there were two issues that burned and they were race and Vietnam. This is history. Since the 1960’s there has been no unifying issues compared to those two issues.

        A world that values justice would be a great world to live in. This is not the world that we have today and believing that it is, makes you vulnerable to all sorts of deceptions.

        in regards to israel palestine, the average american is more concerned about the recurrence of an orlando or a san bernardino, than they are about justice between israelis and palestinians. that’s a fact of life.

        an america that will turn on a dime and become an enemy of israel is an america that will not be trusted around the world and to believe that foreign policy should suddenly wake up and declare that it has seen the light is some kind of mind trip that some people think makes them admirable and just and clean and pure and superior and that’s your trip.

        i feel that the US should be honest with itself regarding the middle east and the first fact of honesty is this: most americans really don’t give a damn about things that take place overseas. and that fact is kind of like gravity. it makes it easy to walk around, but if you drop an egg, it’s going to break. both consequences of gravity.

        i wish the world was different, but it is what it is.

        cornel west is interested in making palestine israel the issue of the day. (foreign policy issue of the day.) i have news for him and you. muslim terrorism is the foreign policy issue of the day. you can blame israel for sirhan sirhan and for 9/11 and for san bernardino and isil and the war between iran and saudi arabia, but the american public is not buying your hooey. either that or they don’t have time to see the truth that you in your superior wisdom have garnered about the world. the american public is concerned about its own borders and keeping foreigners out. that’s one half and there is also the other half that doesn’t care about keeping foreigners out, but really doesn’t think much about the world outside of the us borders or if they’re not into politics, they’re not into thinking about the world outside of their neighborhood. that’s just a fact of life.

        i can’t rewrite history or human nature or the fact that gravity is a force applied by the earth at an acceleration rate of 32 feet per second per second, and maybe our european brothers will enlighten us what that is in meters per second per second, but beyond such translations, gravity is a fact of life. and if you can’t deal with human nature as given and if you can’t appreciate that justice didn’t cause americans to turn against the war in vietman but the draft turned the tide against the war, then i suggest that you fly to the moon and back because the laws of gravity don’t apply to you any more than the laws of human nature.

        so if you want to talk facts, we might have something to discuss. (might, like 1 in 20,000, because like most of the folks around here, you haven’t had a discussion with someone who didn’t agree with you in a few decades.) but if you want to pretend that american politics is some kind of a search for justice in foreign policy, then i’d suggest flying to the moon ten more times in the next day, because the laws of nature obviously mean nothing to you.

      • Mooser
        July 13, 2016, 12:14 am

        “I was stating the obvious…/…because the laws of nature obviously mean nothing to you -“

        Friends, this is what a pilpul overdose looks like.
        Sad, isn’t it?

  11. Citizen
    July 11, 2016, 11:48 am

    Earlier today, on Twitter, after commenting about the refusal of the Democrat Party Establishment to add the word “occupation” or “occupied” to the Democratic Platform re Israel/Palestine (while voting yes to aspirations of native Americans), I was confronted by a Gentile woman who replied there never was, or is, any Israeli “occupation.” I tweeted the high court of Israel said Israeli was engaged in “belligerent occupation.” This after she had already called me a Jew-hater who envied Israel, and as well, called Bernie & all his fans, Finkelstein, Jill Stein, Jew-haters or self-hating Jews. This woman had also said I was lying when I tweeted Britain had no legal authority to make its Balfour promise and the UN’s charter was violated by negating the Palestinian right of self-determination. The woman said I knew nothing about the subject and her guiding light was the ME scholar David Meir-Levi. She also said Arabs had it really good in Israel and the settlers were worthy of our support, etc.

    • Citizen
      July 11, 2016, 11:53 am

      She also agreed with Meir-Levy that only a few Palestinians were driven from their homes by the early Zionists; when I said the more accurate figure of those who left during the Nakba was 750,000, she tweeted back they left on volunteer basis as Arabs had told them they could return in a couple of weeks. She said Meir-Levy had gone into detail about the very few who had been forced to leave by Irgun, etc.

      • Misterioso
        July 24, 2016, 7:51 pm

        To quote John H. Davis, who served as Commission-General of UNRWA at the time: “An exhaustive examination of the minutes, resolutions, and press releases of the Arab League, of the files of leading Arabic newspapers, of day-to-day monitoring of broadcasts from Arab capitals and secret Arab radio stations, failed to reveal a single reference, direct or indirect, to an order given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave. All the evidence is to the contrary; that the Arab authorities continuously exhorted the Palestinian Arabs not to leave the country…. Panic and bewilderment played decisive parts in the flight. But the extent to which the refugees were savagely driven out by the Israelis as part of a deliberate master-plan has been insufficiently recognized.” (John H. Davis, The Evasive Peace, London: Murray, 1968)

        Mr. Davis’s observations are confirmed by the IDF Intelligence Branch Report dated 30 June 1948, entitled “The Arab Exodus from Palestine in the Period 1 December 1947 to 1 June 1948.” After studying the document, Israeli historian Benny Morris stated that “the Intelligence Branch report… goes out of its way to stress that the [Palestinian] exodus was contrary to the political-strategic desires of both the Arab Higher Committee and the governments of the neighboring Arab states. These, according to the report, struggled against the exodus – threatening, cajoling, and imposing punishments, all to no avail.” (Benny Morris, “The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: The Israel Defense Force Intelligence Board Analysis of June 1948: Middle Eastern Studies, Vol. XXII, no. 1, January 1986)

    • Mooser
      July 11, 2016, 12:49 pm

      “I was confronted by a Gentile woman…/… called Bernie & all his fans, Finkelstein, Jill Stein, Jew-haters or self-hating Jews”

      This is really bad. I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, but it was inevitable. So now the Gentiles are figuring out that Jews are plagued by self-hatred, and riven by internalized antisemitism.
      They will take cruel advantage of this breakdown in tribal unity, mark my words.

      • Keith
        July 11, 2016, 8:18 pm

        MOOSER- “They will take cruel advantage of this breakdown in tribal unity, mark my words.”

        Not if Hophmi can prevent it! He and his loyal sidekick Sancho Fredman do battle with the evil forces of the new anti-Semitism (led by you-know-who) as they fight to save Jewish culture on Mondoweiss. I best go back into hiding before they find me and slay me with ritual incantations. Jeez, I hope they don’t bring in their ultimate weapon: Israel Man! http://www.elivalley.com/political-comics/#/comics/israel-man-and-diaspora-boy/

      • Citizen
        July 12, 2016, 5:00 pm

        Not sure many Gentiles are guided by, have read, listened to scholar Meir-Levy–he’s even barely mentioned in a footnote by Finkelstein, to my knowledge. I will say I also go round and round on Twitter with a Gentile man about what’s fact, what’s myth re Israel’s history, policies, and conduct over the years. He does the same thing the Gentile woman does–after a long back and forth thread, he calls me a Jew-hater. OTOH, many pro-Israel Twitter accounts, especially those self-identifying as owned by a Jewish person, block me after I send just one tweet offering a different interpretation of the subject of their tweet.

    • kalithea
      July 12, 2016, 3:02 pm

      Better to be labelled a Jew-hater than someone who hates and denies the truth.

      Zionists love to label the rescuers of Zionism, like Bernie, Jew-haters or self-loathing Jews because guilt and shaming are formidable tribal weapons for keeping all Jews in formation with Zionism and it works and Bernie proved it today.

      Just like under Sharia you have the morality police; Zionism has it’s own police to keep Jews in line. Only Jews brave enough to renounce Zionism completely can be trusted to stand up for real justice and the truth.

  12. Ossinev
    July 11, 2016, 1:30 pm

    @MaxNarr
    “It’s really sad that two groups that have so much in common, both were slaves to foreign masters, and both were pushed from our land. Now Jews have returned and we are staying”

    Max methinks you are dehydrating again. Do get some water inside you before you really go off script.

    I don`t think your blond blue eyed Aryan European prototype JSILi Jews will take too kindly to you inviting all those unclean black untermenschen into the colony.

  13. Qualtrough
    July 11, 2016, 2:10 pm

    Anti-semitism, the Hopfmi definition:

    “Actually, antisemitism is a philosophy that opposes the influence of Jews and Jewish culture in society.”

    Anti-Semitism, according to others:

    “Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group” – Merriam Webster

    “The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish.” – ADL

    “The word antisemitism means prejudice against or hatred of Jews. “The Holocaust, the state-sponsored persecution and murder of European Jews by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945, is history’s most extreme example of antisemitism” – Holocaust Encyclopedia

    “Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites” – Encyclopaedia Britannica

    “Anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.” – Working Definition of Anti-Semitism by the European Monitoring Center on Racism and Xenophobia

    • kalithea
      July 12, 2016, 2:47 pm

      Quit indulging Hop’s “poor-us” Jewish navel obsession. It’s a distraction from the truth – Jews are better than okay in this world and need to stop hogging the victim card so that others with legitimate serious grievances who are really suffering can get the attention they deserve.

      The ancestry of many in our society have suffered genocide and you don’t see them using it as a weapon to deny justice for others and muzzle all criticism of their own actions like Zionist Jews use it.

  14. MHughes976
    July 11, 2016, 4:11 pm

    All these definitions raise questions for me. If we talk of ‘opposition to the influence of Jews’ that would seem to include opposition to any policy, at least on an important matter, that is being favoured or promoted at any time by a significant number of people who are Jewish. Or opposition to the general idea, regardless of particular policies, of the possession of influence (in disproportion to numbers?) by people who are Jewish? The first of these can hardly be considered morally wrong in all circumstances. The mere fact that a majority of my fellow citizens who are Jewish are reported to vote Conservative would, on this definition, make opposition to the Conservative Party anti-Semitic, but would not prove that it was wrong.
    If you restrict the definition to opposition to Jewish people because they are Jewish, because of their ancestry, it would be much more difficult to identify any attitude as actually anti-Semitic. The mere fact of disagreement with majority Jewish opinion would not suffice.

  15. kalithea
    July 12, 2016, 2:30 pm

    I just have to comment today about the Bernie Sanders betrayal. First I want to state a fact: blacks are the Palestinians of America, therefore there is a natural kinship there. Although, Palestinians have it much worse. In fact, blacks in America are subjected to the equivalent of two-tier Zionist justice which represents a gross injustice.

    Bernie Sanders has betrayed justice today and he proved conclusively to me that no Zionist can be trusted in regards to the defense of universal values in defense of the vulnerable in humanity.

    Everyone knows I’ve been defending Bernie passionately here and keeping an open mind about his Zionism, but today with his betrayal I’m convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zionism is a cancer in our society and an impediment to our evolution as compassionate human beings who’s main purpose in life should be to make this a better and just world for ALL people.

    Hillary represents the most corrupt Zionist nuance in our world: someone who uses social values both domestic and foreign to cover up an aggressive Zionist agenda that represents: occupation, oppression, exclusive and bigoted entitlement, 2-tier justice, collective punishment of civilians, destruction of property, military force, war and even genocidal war crimes. She is a promoter of the most disgusting means for imperial supremacy in our world and a promoter of the machinery of imperialism and Zionism both of which are supremacist and racist suppressing the rights of the vulnerable both domestically and globally while pretending social values and social justice.

    This woman is evil because she pretends to be a billboard for social values and equality only to further the machinery of the worst injustice in our world, and Sanders is indeed a Zionist in every sense of the word, and proved that a Zionist can never be trusted with the plight and evolution of humanity because you can’t serve two masters: Zionism and all mankind. He proved that the best Zionist is but a cover for the worst of Zionism.

    Alas, echino was right all along. My bad – fool me once shame on you; fool me twice…NEVER! I will never, ever put my trust in another Zionist again no matter how good and honorable he pretends to be! Bernie Sanders is proof that Zionism corrupts absolutely.

    • echinococcus
      July 13, 2016, 12:29 am

      Kallithea,

      I fully share your rage. Two quick notes, though:

      First, BS hasn’t betrayed anything or anybody, because he had announced right at the start in early May 2015 that he was running for the “nominee”, not even wink-and-nudge. It’s his followers that didn’t want to listen to the idol.

      Second, I’m as vain as the Evil Queen talking to her mirror, but I can’t feel so snug hearing what I was “right” about. It is God’s own truth that trusting any Zionist for anything at all is literally risking your life, of course. But the reason for never listening a single word ever of a Bernie or a Hillary or even a Kucinich is not Zionism. It’s their belonging to the Democrat or Republican wing of the Dictatorship Single Party.

    • Atlantaiconoclast
      July 13, 2016, 10:06 am

      How are Blacks treated like Palestinians ? They have full citizen and legal rights. They are NOT shot disproportionately by cops relative to the percentage of Whites shot who are involved in a police interaction. Their are laws which forbid all White settlements in this nation. There is this need to portray Blacks as eternal victims and it is getting old. It trivializes the Palestinian plight.

      • Keith
        July 13, 2016, 7:45 pm

        ATLANTA ICONOCLAST- “They are NOT shot disproportionately by cops relative to the percentage of Whites shot who are involved in a police interaction.”

        Nonsense. It varies from year to year and the figures are haphazard, however, over a recent forty year period, “a black person was on average 4.2 times as likely to get shot and killed by a cop than a white person.” http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-ferguson-race-data Furthermore, the rates of black versus white prison incarceration are even worse. Calling attention to the ongoing discrimination against non-white people in the US is a necessary part of bearing witness and hardly detracts from the plight of the Palestinians. This is particularly true in view of the militarization of the US police and their training involving Israeli population control techniques.

      • Keith
        July 13, 2016, 7:54 pm

        ATLANTAICONOCLAST- “There is this need to portray Blacks as eternal victims and it is getting old. It trivializes the Palestinian plight.”

        Acknowledging the reality of the situation does not in any way trivialize the plight of the Palestinians. What a strange thing for you to say. And if hearing about it is getting old for you, then just be grateful that you are not living it. Anyone who claims that we are living in some sort of post-racial America needs to get better informed.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 14, 2016, 1:00 am
  16. Citizen
    July 12, 2016, 5:26 pm

    Looks like Hillary Party and Trump Party on the same page: Fox News just said Trump spokes said the Trumpeters stand for Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and BDS as verboten in America. (My words, their essence)

  17. Atlantaiconoclast
    July 13, 2016, 10:02 am

    I don’t believe the likes of BLM will be in the streets demanding justice for Palestine any time soon. Identity politics among various Democratic Party demographics always trumps concern for the fate of other identities.

  18. biorabbi
    July 13, 2016, 1:16 pm

    While the facts of the article about the consternation within the democratic party may be accurate, Israel is also making her own advances on the diplomatic front I may have missed on Mondoweiss.

    Their diplomatic initiative in Africa, where Bibi was extremely warmly met in Kenya and other African countries, establishing new overt and covert diplomatic front. In addition, the diplomatic initiative between Turkey and Israel has led to warming ties, albeit based on realistic, cold gas initiatives that benefits both countries. Finally, the ties between Israel and Egypt are also warming up quite a bit.

    My point. Actually it’s two-fold.

    1. Yes, BDS may be a growing movement in the democratic party. But, there is considerable push back between elites versus activist base, but it is not a monolithic issue either…. as Trump does not represent all republicans…. neither does Cornell West represent all dems or liberals….

    2. Israel is also making their own diplomatic initiatives based on trade, defense, agriculture into Africa that is bearing fruit. See also India, Egypt and even Turkey as examples where realistic trade, military and diplomatic reasons exist for closer ties between Israel and the rest of the world(outside of the US and Europe).

    • Mooser
      July 13, 2016, 4:43 pm

      “Israel is also making her own advances on the diplomatic front”

      Thank you, Dr. Pangloss.
      And the imminent good-will tour by Chief IDF Rabbi Eyal Qarim will precipitate many advances, too.

    • Mr.T
      July 13, 2016, 5:58 pm

      Still an evil Apartheid state, though.

      • jon s
        July 18, 2016, 6:43 am

        Annie, I just wonder if a comment as vile as that one would have been allowed if it had referred, say, to the Qur’an.

      • silamcuz
        July 18, 2016, 7:00 am

        What does the Quran got to do with a comment condemning an apartheid state?

      • Mooser
        July 18, 2016, 12:39 pm

        “Annie, I just wonder if a comment as vile as that one would have been allowed…”

        Will you kindly stop whining?
        Listen “Jon s” if you’re tough enough to Nakba the Palestinians and propose rape as a military weapon, you can stand a little opprobrium.
        Unless, of course, your intent is to show just how weak-kneed and insecure Zionism is.

      • Mooser
        July 18, 2016, 12:41 pm

        “What does the Quran got to do with a comment condemning an apartheid state?”

        Take it easy, “Simalcuz”!
        Nobody is saying the Quaran would condemn an apartheid state.
        Not at all, set your mind at ease.

      • jon s
        July 18, 2016, 1:46 pm

        silamcuz,
        I mentioned the Quran because I doubt that a comment like the one regarding the Bible would have been tolerated , if it had referred to the Quran.

    • jon s
      July 14, 2016, 2:01 am

      Regarding Netanyahu’s recent trip to Africa, for anyone who may have missed Uganda President Museveni’s speech:

      • echinococcus
        July 14, 2016, 2:57 am

        Only a stupid Zionist would miss how brilliant it was.
        He didn’t once call your shitty illegal state its self-given absurd name.
        He made exceedingly clear that you bandits are squatting on Palestine. Try to remember that name. It is Palestine.

        He showed up British imperial hubris and the Balfour scam.
        He made total fun of the Zionist absurdity of “return” by unrelated strangers. He showed you embezzlers up: the only title you have being… the bible.

        He made clear that no matter where the Zionists go, they are a mortal enemy of the owners of the place. That they would have had to fight the Ugandans in Uganda. No lordless land.

        He also pretended to be dumb, so disarming the Yahoo’s reaction. And the Yahoo had to swallow it whole.

        All this at a very solemn Zionist entity ceremony imposed by blackmail upon Uganda.

        Bravo, Museveni!

        Brilliant. The Zionist morons themselves are distributing this.

      • jon s
        July 16, 2016, 12:24 pm

        echinococcus,
        Your response is almost as funny as Museveni’s speech.

      • echinococcus
        July 16, 2016, 1:00 pm

        John S,

        As already said, it’s extremely funny: even crouching slaves of the Zionists, like a Museveni who couldn’t even oppose a stupid invader celebration on his own airport, a guy you consider an inferior-race Schwarzer, no less, now can slap you in public. State that you are squatting in Palestine with only the […]-paper called Ancient Testament as justification. And you murderers and invaders have to swallow it, smile and say how funny.
        Even funnier is a John S, some American bumpkin playing the conquistador, not even realizing how funny that is.

      • jon s
        July 17, 2016, 3:47 pm

        Never mind that echinococcus can call me stupid and a murderer and a racist and an invader , all of which is not considered a “vicious personal attack” (see the comments policy) – but what about “Ancient Testament” (=the Bible) as toilet paper? how is that allowed?

      • Annie Robbins
        July 17, 2016, 4:44 pm

        jon, first — i wasn’t the moderator who passed that comment but i just edited the offending word. that said, if an ancient testament is used as a justification to pillage, rape, murder, push people off their land and other unsavory actions then calling it a kind of disposable paper should be the least of ones worries.

      • Mooser
        July 17, 2016, 4:06 pm

        ” but what about “Ancient Testament” (=the Bible) as toilet paper? how is that allowed? “

        Necessity is the mother of invention. I suggest you keep the holder filled, and take the Torah out of the bathroom.

      • echinococcus
        July 17, 2016, 5:15 pm

        Annie,

        You’re entitled to censor any posts, of course, it’s your site.
        Even if censoring attacks against religion (this is not a first) may be construed as a defense of obscurantism from free speech, you are not required to abide by the First Amendment. No problem.

        The really funny part is how smart John S. was in repeating the censored word. Priceless.

      • Mooser
        July 17, 2016, 8:23 pm

        ” how is that allowed?”

        “Jon s” at your own blog, you can make and enforce the rules. And here you are limited to Mondo readership. People who avoid trefa websites won’t see your comments.

        But I have no doubt the “Jon s” Israeli History Blog” will crush Mondo.
        So why be a parasite when you can be a predator, and eat Mondo for lunch?

      • Mooser
        July 17, 2016, 8:29 pm

        “Your response is almost as funny as Museveni’s speech.” “Jon s”

        “Echin” is a fool if he thinks the desires of 200 million Jews will not prevail in the former Palastine.

        Israel is not the kind of place to be thrown into crisis by the loss of a few soldiers or even 40 civilians. There’s another 199,999,960 ready to step into their place.

  19. biorabbi
    July 13, 2016, 1:40 pm

    One more suggestion for the Mondoweiss crowd. How about the Green party candidate Stein? She hates Israel; wouldn’t she be a perfect candidate for the dyspeptic left who can’t quite stomach voting for the moderate, corporate Hillary? Only problem, is that leaves us with President Donald Trump. I guess the left will just have to suck it up in November. Time for Hillary! =)

    • Mooser
      July 13, 2016, 4:37 pm

      “One more suggestion for the Mondoweiss crowd. How about the Green party candidate Stein?”

      I’m sorry, the “Mondoweiss crowd” doesn’t take suggestions from outsiders, who aren’t in with the in crowd.

  20. klm90046
    July 14, 2016, 4:06 pm

    Despite the power of the Lobby and its penetration into every corridor of policy, the vote went 95 to 73. That’s pretty damn close, far better than anyone could have expected.

    Thank you, Prof Cornel West, thank you James Zogby.

    On to 2020.

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