Olympian at the checkpoint: why a Palestinian swimmer couldn’t train in Jerusalem

Israel/Palestine

Yesterday, Palestinian swimmer Mary al Atrash, swam for the first time in the Rio Olympics, in the 50-meter freestyle. She finished third in her heat and finished in 28.76 seconds, beating her personal best of 29.91. That finish did not affect the broader ranking: Sadly, Mary finished 63rd of 91 athletes, and will not be taking part in the semi-finals, which feature only the 16 best swimmers.

Last month we interviewed Mary al Atrash, a 22-year-old swimmer from Beit Sahour in the West Bank who was part of the largest delegation Palestine has ever sent to the Olympic Games.

She told us about her difficulties to train in a swimming pool that does not match the Olympic standards, and explained that although she technically lives close to Jerusalem, where such swimming pools, exist, she could not go there to train.

After our story was published, a controversy started: Israeli authorities explained that Mary never applied for a permit to train in Jerusalem. Other media outlets declared that Olympic-sized swimming pools existed in the West Bank. We investigated this complex situation.

After COGAT –the Israeli Ministry of Defense organization coordinating civil affairs between Palestinians and Israelis in the Palestinian territories- published a statement saying Mary al Atrash never applied for a permit to train in Jerusalem, we contacted Mary and the organizations that supervise her training such as the Palestinian Swimming Federation and the Palestine Olympic Committee.

Indeed, it seems that Mary never applied for a permit, and neither did a lot of other Palestinian athletes. They explain this situation by emphasizing their movement restrictions. They say they can be stopped at any point while going from one place to another and therefore don’t feel safe moving from one city to another. They also mention that roads or checkpoints are sometimes closed which implies a chance of wasting time that they could use to train.

The Palestinian Swimming Federation stressed “the difficulties, that all the athletes face, to enter Jerusalem for training” and that “permits are for a limited time” and that athletes still have to go “through checkpoints” even if they have a permit to train in Jerusalem which makes their situation unstable and puts them at risk of wasting their training time.

To understand the difficult situation and the restrictions of movement for Mary al Atrash, here are options to reach Jerusalem, where she could find an Olympic-sized swimming pool to train, from Beit Sahour, where she lives.

She could go through Beit Jala, a village between Jerusalem and Bethlehem, there are 2 checkpoints to cross (one in Har Gilo and one through tunnels on Road 60).

She could also first go to Bethlehem and then, from this city, drive to Jerusalem, and she would still have one checkpoint to go through (nearby by the separation wall). The Rachel’s Tomb Checkpoint, also known as Checkpoint 300, reportedly sees thousands of people crossing daily. It is considered to be one of the busiest checkpoints between the West Bank and Israel.

Lastly she could travel straight from Beit Sahour to Jerusalem, where she would also have to cross one checkpoint, off the Road 60, on Road 398.

It should not be more than 15-minute long drive but then, it depends on how long you spend at the checkpoint (it can be several hours), where you also have to change public transportation, since no Palestinian plated car can enter Jerusalem.

Besides, there was a controversy regarding the absence of an Olympic-sized swimming pool in the West bank. The Jerusalem Post conducted an investigation and finally concluded that there are no 50-meter long swimming pools meeting the Olympic standards in the West Bank although there is an ongoing project to build one.

 

About Chloé Rouveyrolles

Chloé Rouveyrolles is a Paris-born journalist covering Middle East affairs with enthusiasm. She's currently based between Israel and the Palestinian territories. You can follow her on Twitter @tweetingchloe.

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  1. asherpat
    August 13, 2016, 3:17 pm

    OMG, the bloodthirsty regime allowed a whole delegation of the oppressed ones to travel to the Olympics, to represent the non-existent State of Palestine?

    There are swimming pools in the water-starved oppressed occupation riven areas (though not 50 meters!!!)

    What is the wolrd coming to??!! Very soon, someone will stand up and say: hey, these people aren’t oppressed anywhere near the people of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, why have we been paying so much attention (and money) here?

    • Marnie
      August 14, 2016, 12:18 am

      “OMG, the bloodthirsty regime allowed a whole delegation of the oppressed ones to travel to the Olympics, to represent the non-existent State of Palestine?”

      Yeah, it would have been a public relations nightmare for the bloodthirsty regime if it had instead shot the athletes feet and legs to keep them from competing in the first place. I guess the bloodthirsty regimen can be taught something.

      A ‘non-existent’ state wouldn’t be able to compete in the olympics would it? Hasbara fail. Again.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 16, 2016, 9:30 am

        “A ‘non-existent’ state wouldn’t be able to compete in the olympics would it?”

        The IOC makes exceptions, though the UN classifies Palestine as a non-member observer.

        There is even a team of 10 refugees competing this Olympiad, primarily Africans fleeing Islamic terror and violence.

      • oldgeezer
        August 16, 2016, 10:58 am

        @CPD

        How utterly dishonest of you to leave out the word state. Palestine’s UN status is as a nonmember observer state and not merely an observer.

        Equally dishonest is your assesment of the athletes overall abilities.

        Proper training facilities play a significant role in an athlete’s performance although how much better she may, or may not, have performed is pure speculation either way. Just pure off handed bigotry from another zionist. Never a surprise.

    • Empiricon
      August 14, 2016, 4:29 am

      “Allowed” is the key word here. Says it all. asherpat sees freedom of movement as a privilege to be granted by ubermensch Israelis to Palestinians.

      • Marnie
        August 14, 2016, 11:17 am

        You are absolutely right.

      • affinity292
        August 18, 2016, 10:52 pm

        You do realize you are talking about allowing Non-Citizen foreigners to come into your country. Heck, they are non-citizen foreigners whose government pretty much exists in state of war with your country.

        This has nothing to do with anyone being an ubermensch. It is just common sense.

        Mexico is not at war with us and we still control who comes into our country from Mexico.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 19, 2016, 2:38 am

        palestinians are not foreigners in palestine. you can’t change the name of a place and then claim indigenous people there are therefore foreigners. clueless idiot.

    • eljay
      August 14, 2016, 9:12 am

      || asherpat: OMG, the bloodthirsty regime… ||

      You forgot oppressive, colonialist, intransigent, belligerent, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist.

      || … allowed a whole delegation of the oppressed ones to travel to the Olympics … ||

      It should not be the business of the “Jewish State” regime to determine whether or not non-Israelis get to go to the Olympics.

      || … Very soon, someone will stand up and say: hey, these people aren’t oppressed anywhere near the people of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Lebanon … ||

      Meanwhile, Zio-supremacists already say Israel isn’t quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali and African “hell-holes”.

    • Talkback
      August 15, 2016, 2:36 am

      Asherpat: ‘Very soon, someone will stand up and say: hey, these people aren’t oppressed anywhere near the people of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, why have we been paying so much attention (and money) here?’

      It is true! Whenever a Zionist develops a spine and learns to stand up the first thing he does is to distract from Zionist crimes. It’s the result from prenatal brainwashing. I’m actually amazed that you can utter the words ‘State of Palestine’. Is there any chance that you or your ancestors legally acquired Palestinian citizenship before 1948? Or are you alien intruders from the Kahane Continuum where Palestine wasn’t recognised as a state within the UN in 2012?

  2. Citizen
    August 13, 2016, 4:53 pm

    Hasbara bots on Twitter specify three pools in OT meeting Olympic standards, and also show pictures of nice shopping malls in OT.

    • asherpat
      August 14, 2016, 3:17 am

      Well, no doubt, this is an embarrassing loss for the anti-Israel crowd. You win some, you lose some. You are obsessed with finishing us, we are obsessed with surviving.

      • Marnie
        August 14, 2016, 11:00 am

        Seriously asherpat, you see the end of the occupation and apartheid as ‘finishing us’?

        I agree you are obsessed. You’ve made your survival dependent on the continued murder of Palestinians. I can’t believe you’re nonchalance about it, but what’ve you got to fear, right? It’s not like the UN or the US is going to stop you.

        At least any time real soon.

      • asherpat
        August 14, 2016, 4:46 pm

        Marnie, your views are warped.

        “What have I got to fear”? Let me tell you what have I got to fear:

        – a crowd of Muslims shrieking “Itbakh el-Yahood”, in the ‘time-honoured’ 1929, 1936, etc fashion;
        – a Muslim with a knife plunging cowardly from the back into my neck;
        – a Muslim yelling “Allah hu akbar” and pulling the string of a nail-filled bomb in a Sbarro restaurant, full of mothers and children
        – a Muslim nuclear bomb in the hands of the Mullahs that sent the young sons (of others) to clear minefields with their feet and who believe in the apocalyptic war to reveal the Mahdi and who, foam around their mouth chant “death to America, death to Israel” and who said not once that Israel “shud be wiped from the face of the earth”.

        That’s what I fear. You may not like me, but if you are a sane and fair person, you must accept that at the least, I think and behave rationally, in the modern (one wud say “Western”) meaning of this word.

      • Mooser
        August 14, 2016, 5:32 pm

        “You are obsessed with finishing us, we are obsessed with surviving.”

        Nobody ever told you about the birds-and-the-bees thing, “asherpat”?

        “Surviving” usually entails…no, it’s too lascivious. Anyway, “asherpat” Zionism has got Jews obsessing over a lot of things. It’s sort of laughable to say “surviving” is really one of them, given Zionism’s actions. And if you’ll excuse my saying so, Jews don’t seem to concerned about “surviving” on your terms, anywhere in the world.
        But yeah, whatever, give ’em the “surviving” schtik.

        Hell, “asherpat” I’m the one who has increased the Jewish population to 200 million!

      • Mooser
        August 14, 2016, 7:32 pm

        “What have I got to fear”? Let me tell you what have I got to fear:”

        Yes, as you say, that’s what you fear but as your fears (and your willingness to state them in those terms) plainly show, you are screwy.

        Remember to check under the bed for Muslims tonite, “asherpat”, You’ll sleep better.

      • talknic
        August 14, 2016, 10:12 pm

        @ asherpat August 14, 2016, 3:17 am

        “Well, no doubt, this is an embarrassing loss for the anti-Israel crowd”

        Hasbara bullsh*t, the ongoing illegal occupation of non-Israeli territories , the dispossession of non-Jews from land and territories the Zionist Movement‘s state covets and ignoring the basic tenets of Judaism are an embarrassing loss for Israel.

        ” You are obsessed with finishing us”

        Uh?

        ” we are obsessed with surviving”

        Go survive in Israel, that’s what it’s for surely

      • Talkback
        August 15, 2016, 2:49 am

        Asherpat: ‘You are obsessed with finishing us, we are obsessed with surviving.’

        That’s what Afrikaners said, too. Is this a psychological disorder that comes with settler colonialism and its crimes against the natives?

      • Marnie
        August 15, 2016, 7:36 am

        asherpat –

        Sticks and stones dude, call me whatever you need to but you aren’t helping your ’cause’.

        You’re first point being the massacre in Hebron (where over 400 Jews were saved by their Palestinian neighbors, which you bots NEVER, EVER ACKNOWLEDGE).

        You’re fear of being murdered is not rational, unless you are someone who has stolen the treasure of another person and your conscience is driving you a little crazy so you live in constant fear of retribution. Don’t paint all Palestinians with the settler brush.

        Why is the entire world held hostage because of zionist fear- and-war-mongering. Are the lives of the other billions of inhabitants on earth of lesser value?

        I’m more afraid of Netanyahooo and all the eastern european thugs who won’t hesitate to outmurder him if given the chance, and are counting on diehard zionists to vote them into power or maybe there’ll just be a good old-fashion coup. How about Yehuda Glick, now an MK, who wants to blow up Al-Aqsa mosque to build the 3rd temple? You had better believe you won’t be dealing with just angry Palestinians then. But hey, with the way things are going, what could possibly go wrong?

        P.S. “God is Great” is the truth, isn’t it? How do you feel about “Death to Arabs”, “May your villages burn”, etc.

      • Mooser
        August 15, 2016, 11:59 am

        Asherpat: ‘You are obsessed with finishing us, we are obsessed with surviving.’

        Look, “asherpat” there’s too many women (“Annie”, “Marnie) around to discuss this.
        But if we can sneak out for a smoke, I’ll explain to you how that “surviving” thing is done. It isn’t that hard to do, and can even be sorta fun. We seem to have lost the knack.
        Okay, the first thing you don’t want to do is cut off your own…Oh, ooops, forgot about all the womens. We’ll talk about it later.

      • Mr.T
        August 15, 2016, 2:32 pm

        “That’s what I fear. ”

        Well, since all those fears stem from the atrocities that the Zionists have inflicted on the region, then I’d say the only rational response would be for you to rightfully blame the Zionists who started and who continue this conflict, apologize to the Palestinians for your part in the crimes against them and make amends to your victims by finding a country outside of the middle east who might take you in as an immigrant.

      • asherpat
        August 17, 2016, 4:07 pm

        I’m not sure that my response will be published, I guess that my logic began to overwhelm the monderators.

        However, that doesn’t mean that you guys, the frequenters of Mondoweiss aren’t pathologically obsesses with Israel. I from my side can’t fault even a Muslim terrorist who murders a 2 year old girl in her sleep for trying to defend himself when Zahal comes to pluck him from his hideout. I can understand him, even if I wish he’d never see the light of day.

        But you here, try to bring logical arguments why I shud roll over and die, why I shud not care about surviving just because in your opinion I took over a piece of Dar el Islam? Your obsession blinds you to basic logic.

      • Mr.T
        August 17, 2016, 6:54 pm

        “But you here, try to bring logical arguments why I shud roll over and die, why I shud not care about surviving just because in your opinion I took over a piece of Dar el Islam? Your obsession blinds you to basic logic.”

        Please stop being such a drama queen. No one wants you dead; you’re not that important.

        What people want (aside from asking you to stop your gross religious bigotry) is for your state to stop making Palestinians dead and to stop enforcing an evil ideology on your behalf.

        Look at the swimmer in this article. She doesn’t want you dead, she wants you and your government to get off her back and let her swim. It’s a disgusting blood libel for you to claim otherwise as you do.

      • Mooser
        August 17, 2016, 7:00 pm

        “I’m not sure that my response will be published, I guess that my logic began to overwhelm the monderators.”

        That must be it!
        Whatever you do, “asherpat”, don’t get the idea they are simply letting you make a fool of yourself, and letting you expose the thinking of Zionists. That can’t be it.

        No, your logic “began to overwhelm the moderators”. Why, a couple more comments, and I bet you can annex the entire site!

        “Your obsession blinds you to basic logic.”

        Yeah, unlike that list of fears you gave us. That’s all eminently rational.

  3. ClearAndPresentDanger
    August 13, 2016, 6:58 pm

    It is not uncommon for swimmers even in the US to have to train in 25m pools for long course (50m) events.

    But lessee, al Atras swims the 50m free, two laps in a 25m pool but just one straight sprint in a 50. And she (and you) are complaining?

    She is welcome to take a flip turn in the middle of her sprint to comport with her training. Or she could just swim.

    • inbound39
      August 14, 2016, 5:59 am

      She is indigenous to Palestine. Her country of birth. She should have NO restrictions on movement in her own land and should be free like many other people to realise her dreams and aspirations. Israeli’s are illegal occupiers and land thieves that operate without legal justification or without predominant World support outside their declared Borders. Israeli’s from Europe protested at similar treatment under the German Occupation yet Israeli’s seem fine imposing their illegal will on Palestinians. Israeli’s supporting their national policies will never know peace nor be accepted in a friendly fashion globally because their behaviour is so abhorrent and inhuman. They have NO defense for what they do and Palestinian responses to Israeli actions are entirely understandable and are no different to how other people globally would respond if faced with similar actions Israeli’s included.

      • asherpat
        August 14, 2016, 10:20 am

        “similar treatment under German Occupation”?! Self-hatred blinds.

      • inbound39
        August 16, 2016, 2:58 am

        Hardly self hatred on my part Asherpat but you seem far from being a happy ZioCamper…..guess you feel lonely in your isolation.

    • Talkback
      August 14, 2016, 6:22 am

      Do Jews have the same problems or are you trying to distract from Israel’s Hafradaheid policies?

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 15, 2016, 8:10 am

        “Do Jews have the same problems”

        The Palestinians have supposedly chosen to not build Olympic pools, although there are reports of 2 in Gaza as well as one in Beit Sakhour, Ms al-Atrash’ hometown.

        Nor have they chosen to declare their nation and build a country, instead being content with first Egypt and Jordan preventing them for decades from having their own nation, then allowing kleptos like the Egyptian Arafat and now Abu Mazen to do the same, and in the process siphoning off the billion$ of foreign aid they have received.

        Telling choice of words, though, “Jews” instead of “Israelis”.

      • talknic
        August 15, 2016, 9:22 am

        @ ClearAndPresentDanger – does a Ziodump

        “The Palestinians have supposedly chosen to not build Olympic pools…”

        Says who?

        “Nor have they chosen to declare their nation”

        Catch up. They declared in 1988, offering to accept only 22% of their rightful territory for peace with Israel. It’s been on offer for almost 30 years. Israel’s answer is to illegally settle more and more

        ” and build a country”

        Impossible under a military occupation that dispossesses, illegally settles, restricts trade imports and exports, withholds taxes, destroys infrastructure, steals resources, slaughters at will and has isolated Gaza & the West Bank from each other

        … instead being content with first Egypt and Jordan preventing them for decades from having their own nation”

        Neither Egypt or Jordan prevented them from anything. Egypt occupied Gaza via the Armistice Agreement with Israel and per the UN Charter Chapt XI. Israel signed the Armistice Agreement with Jordan and Jordan legally annexed the West Bank as a trustee at the request of the majority of the legitimate inhabitants.

        Israel’s gluttony for non-Israeli territory and the ongoing military occupation has prevented a Palestinian State gaining independence

        ” then allowing kleptos like the Egyptian Arafat “

        The final audit for the International Monetary Fund says you’re spouting Ziopoop
        From the NY Times (SUBSCRIPTION REQUIRED)
        “In total, the Fund estimates, the amounts diverted from the official budget from 1995 until 2000, when the diversions stopped, may have exceeded $898m. IMF officials say $799m was returned to the PA, with the difference accounted for by investment losses………the bulk of the money diverted from the budget – including all the Swiss bank accounts – was either given back or invested in companies that became part of the PIF, an assertion backed by the IMF”

        ” and now Abu Mazen to do the same, and in the process siphoning off the billion$ of foreign aid they have received”

        Evidence please … I’ll wait

      • oldgeezer
        August 15, 2016, 11:16 am

        @talknic

        More zionist projection. They seem incapable of electing leaders who are not guilty of corruption and fraud.

        He sidestepped your question about apartheid policies of course as your use of the word Jews was quite appropriate when questioning apartheid policies. His sidestepping was the part that was telling.

        Israelis live a first world lifestyle due to the massive handouts they receive but it is closer to a 3rd world country in most respects.

      • Talkback
        August 15, 2016, 11:50 am

        ClearAndPresentDanger: ‘Telling choice of words, though, “Jews” instead of “Israelis”.’

        Indeed. It wasn’t Nonjews who illegally annexed Jerusalem and closed it off for the natives or expelled and denationalized them. So do Jews have the same problems or not?

      • Mr.T
        August 15, 2016, 2:35 pm

        “Telling choice of words, though, “Jews” instead of “Israelis”. ”

        When the Jews who run the Israeli state assert that it is a state for al Israelis, and not a state for all the world’s Jews then you might have a point. Otherwise, you’re simply a hypocrite.

    • Blake
      August 14, 2016, 7:12 am

      I don’t see Americans living under occupation or having to apply for permits to allow them to swim in a pool closest to their home or any that are refugees awaiting their right of return home – or are you going to make an excuse for that too?

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 14, 2016, 2:49 pm

        US mentioned only as an example, it is true in many countries around the world.

        In the US there is an added wrinkle – club, secondary schools, and even Uni still compete in many events using English system, yards, not metres.

        Ms al Atrash’ predictably dismal performance in Rio was not due to a lack of training or alleged lack of access to to an Olympic pool – her times show that she is simply not even close to elite level. Elite swimmers are a rare breed, times were well below those normally required for entry to the Olympics. Hell, her times would not even come close to qualifying for the US Junior Nationals, Junior being 18 and under.

        She was given a special pass to be there, one allows athletes who have not attained the qualifying time to participate in the games.

        On the order of 4-5″ slower, a veritable lifetime on a 50m course, no amount of training can change that. Ludicrous. Pretending that she is elite and deserved to be there does a disservice to her and all the qualified competitors.

  4. Mayhem
    August 14, 2016, 4:56 am

    Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment. They don’t have the wherewithal. Their presence at Rio has nothing to do with them having any sporting prowess; they are showing up just to win propaganda points.

    Mohammed Abu Khoussa, the first Palestinian runner to compete in the 100-meter event in the Olympics ran the worst time 11:89 of all competitors in the heats of the event. He had hoped to beat his current best time of 10:55, especially after just having completed 10 months of training on the African Island nation of Mauritius.

    • John O
      August 14, 2016, 9:13 am

      Hello, Donald. Taking time off from campaigning to practise your next bilious brain-dump on a randomly chosen website?

    • CigarGod
      August 14, 2016, 10:34 am

      Are they really?
      You and Asherpat don’t know anything about athletics or the Olympics, do you?
      First of all, the Olympics are where the best athletes of each nation come to compete. You seem to think it is a place for the best athletes. The large nations have such a deep talent pool, so much money and such great facilities that small nations would have no chance.

      Here is an example you will appreciate:
      A so-called Israel Bobsled team did their best to get into the 2002 games in Salt Lake. They were Americans, not Israelis. Israel denied they had a bobsled team. Given fibt rules, there are loopholes…which they took advantage of. Anyway, though they were good athletes in other sports, they sucked at bobsled. They mostly crashed and of course didnt qualify. They haven’t had much luck since. I think their skeleton athlete got a bronze in Americas Cup years ago. Fyi, AC is the very lowest rung of competition in the sport. What were you saying about an embarrassment?

      • ritzl
        August 14, 2016, 10:43 am

        Thanks Cigar God.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 15, 2016, 7:36 am

        “First of all, the Olympics are where the best athletes of each nation come to compete.”

        And from other entities that the IOC has chosen to allow to attend (e.g., Palestine). And for 2016, even a ‘Refugee’ squad comprised of mostly African athletes fleeing Islamic violence.

        It is unclear how many (if any) of the Refugee squad posted scores that actually qualified for inclusion in the Olympics, the terms ‘selected’ and ‘invited’ pursuant to a special programme figuring in many of their curriculum vitae.

        Only 2 of the 6 athletes representing Palestine actually qualified for the Olympics, the rest having been “invited”. Ms al Atrash being one of the invitees (as was Khoussa), her personal best was >4″ slower than the Olympic qualifying benchmark. A veritable lifetime in a 50m sprint. No amount of training or access to Olympic pools would close that gap.

        Ms al Atrash’ times would not even qualify her for the US Junior Nationals, those being for 18 and under.

        So, their attendance is a bit of a joke, a whiff of the Special Olympics within the real competition.

        “You seem to think it [Olympics] is a place for the best athletes.”

        That is what World Championships are for, more meaningful competitions since they are not as limited in contestants per country. The Olys get the the press due to media billion$, but World Championships are more respected amongst the athletes.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 15, 2016, 11:17 am

        ” there are loopholes…which they took advantage of.”

        One of the 6 Palestinian competitors in Rio is a white German dude in his mid-50s named named Christian Zimmermann, competing in Dressage.

        Only 2 of the 6 are actually from Palestine.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 15, 2016, 12:19 pm

        Christian Zimmermann is palestinian

        He obtained dual citizenship in 2011, when he became a naturalized citizen of the State of Palestine. He switched his national allegiance from Germany to Palestine in 2013, becoming one of only six Palestinian equestrians registered with the International Federation for Equestrian Sports.[3] He chose to switch to Palestine after meeting a Russian diplomat with Palestinian roots, which made him think about the German role in the history of Israel and Palestine.[3][4]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zimmermann

        either way, it’s not uncommon in sports for people of other nationalities/citizenships to represent other countries.

        you seem to be obsessed with palestine being included in the olympics. or palestinian athletes altogether. why would that be?

      • Mr.T
        August 15, 2016, 2:42 pm

        “Only 2 of the 6 are actually from Palestine.”

        And half the Israeli team were born in Russia, Ethiopia or other places, and not JSIL.

      • Mr.T
        August 15, 2016, 2:45 pm

        “And from other entities that the IOC has chosen to allow to attend (e.g., Palestine). ”

        Palestine is a nation, not just an “entity”. Most of the world’s population and countries recognize it, even if your shitty little Apartheid state doesn’t.

    • ritzl
      August 14, 2016, 10:42 am

      I can never wrap my brain around the level of spiritual disease it takes to think this kind of garbage – let alone take the time to write it out for all to see.

      Spoken like a true Israeli, sir. Congrats.

      • CigarGod
        August 14, 2016, 1:04 pm

        “Spiritual Disease.”
        For years I have been looking for a better description than “evil.”
        Thanks.

    • zaid
      August 14, 2016, 5:54 pm

      “Mohammed Abukhousa (C) of Palestine receives assistance after being injured during the men’s 100m heats of the Rio 2016 Olympic Games Athletics, Track and Field events at the Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 13 August 2016.”

      http://www.newsday.com/sports/olympics/rio-olympics-pictures-track-and-field-events-on-day-2-1.12172177

      He finished 6th in the Preliminary which is something Israeli Athletes only dreams of in the iconic 100m

      He was injured but yet he completed the run with a bad timing of course. Respect.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 15, 2016, 7:52 am

        “He [Abukhousa] finished 6th in the Preliminary which is something Israeli Athletes only dreams of in the iconic 100m”

        There has yet to be a Palestinian athlete who has qualified for the 100m, Abukhousa having been “invited” despite times >2″ slower than the top qualifiers. 2″ is time enough for a spot of tea and a trip to the loo.

        His 6th in the Preliminaries was against competitors from the likes of Micronesia, Malta, and Tuvalu.

      • zaid
        August 15, 2016, 9:25 pm

        Maybe so, but still,his time is something Israeli runners dreams for.

      • Marnie
        August 15, 2016, 11:44 pm

        @CPD –

        Maybe you should write to the Olympic higher ups and register your grievances. Gee whiz, you sound scared to death of any venue that treats Palestinians as equals. You sound like the AWM that pissed and moaned about allowing African Americans to play baseball in the major leagues or football in the NFL. Now they dominate.

        Why do Palestinians have to suffer because of your inferiority complex?

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 16, 2016, 1:28 am

        “Maybe so, but still,his time is something Israeli runners dreams for.”

        Lol!! good one, zaid.

        Yes, I am sure that is every Israeli runners’ dream to tot up a 11.89″ in the 100 meters

      • ritzl
        August 16, 2016, 9:40 am

        @CaPD

        In your lust to denigrate [the efforts of] a Palestinian competitor in the Olympics you keep using the wrong time.

        Abukhousa’s time in the preliminaries was 10.82 sec. That qualified him (#6/21) for the first round where he injured himself but still finished with a 11.89 time.

        https://www.google.com/search?q=Abukhousa&oq=abu&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i60j0j5.6866j0j4&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#mie=oly%2C%5B%22%2Fm%2F0wxqzj2%22%2C2%2C%22o%22%2C1%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2C0%5D

        BTW Abukhousa’s 10.82″ time is well within the range for US Division I (major college) NCAA recruiting for track scholarships.

        http://www.athleticscholarships.net/trackandfieldscholarships.htm

        Surely this means he will be recruited by every Israeli university. But sadly Israel will probably (as it does so often) just let him leave and bar him from ever coming back. Check that box, eh?

        You sound confused. Seems like you should be touting him in order for there to be one less Palestinian in Palestine. And maybe just maybe he would take his whole family with him. Zionist nirvana.

        PS. I suspect that the fact that he injured himself yet finished despite the injury (they make movies of this stuff) shows a spirit that scares the bejeebers out of you all. Hence the extaordinarily (even for Zios) bizarre castigation of a profoundly noble effort and act of courage. Just imagine the possibilities if that spirit were applied to making Palestine free or demanding equal rights. Zionist hell.

    • Talkback
      August 15, 2016, 3:02 am

      Mayhem: ‘Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment. They don’t have the wherewithal. Their presence at Rio has nothing to do with them having any sporting prowess; they are showing up just to win propaganda points.’

      Like Jewish colonialists showing up at the UN or even worse at its human rights council. Ttotal embarassment, no wherewithal at all, just showing up to win propaganda points. I wonder how they qualified at all.

      • Mayhem
        August 21, 2016, 8:24 pm

        The Palestinians disgraced themselves with the Munich massacre back in 1972. The Olympic movement has embarrassed itself ever since by never properly acknowledging this massacre at the Olympic Games. The world has been bullied into accepting the Palestinians by the pro-Palestinian propaganda machine; to do otherwise would be to invite terrorism and threats of intimidation to your nation’s doorstep.

      • Mr.T
        August 22, 2016, 10:53 am

        “The Palestinians disgraced themselves with the Munich massacre back in 1972.”

        And Israeli Jews did far, far worse to the Palestinians both before and after.

        “The Olympic movement has embarrassed itself ever since by never properly acknowledging this massacre at the Olympic Games.”

        Oh, get over yourself. They broke their policy of not politicizing the games in 2012 to appease you whining babies by recognizing this attack without, of course, recognizing all of the worse attacks on Palestinians and Palestinian athletes which you evil people have inflicted over the years. If the Olympic movement has anything to be embarrassed about it’s for not kicking the Israeli fascist Apartheid-loving barbarians out of the Olympics all together.

    • talknic
      August 15, 2016, 5:15 am

      Mayhem Ziodumps on the Palestinians August 14, 2016, 4:56 am

      “Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment. They don’t have the wherewithal. “

      That’s why you’re here I guess. A wee Ziotirade, a tired Ziotactic. Attack in order to defend the indefensible

      Who should be embarrassed tho? They haven’t the wherewithal for anything much. It has been Israel for the last 68 years preventing the establishment of a Palestinian State, 68 years actively preventing Palestine’s economy from growing and who now withholds taxes, destroys Palestinian infrastructure, destroys simple water projects funded by international donors, agriculture, destroys businesses, prevents Palestinian exports, creating a situation where now thousands of Palestinians sneak unapproved into territories Israel has illegally acquired by war just to earn a meager living. Proving BTW, the separation barrier isn’t effective in stopping suicide attacks

      “Their presence at Rio has nothing to do with them having any sporting prowess; they are showing up just to win propaganda points”

      Oh FFS All your comments are entirely just to win propaganda points. At which failing spectacularly seems to be your forte. Can’t be difficult the way the wholly holey Hasbara leaks crappolla

      “Mohammed Abu Khoussa, the first Palestinian runner to compete in the 100-meter event in the Olympics ran the worst time 11:89 of all competitors in the heats of the event”

      No disparaging remarks about any other of the plethora of competitors who came last … why not? tch tch tch!

    • a blah chick
      August 15, 2016, 8:44 am

      Wow, just when I think you can’t sink any lower you succeed in outdoing yourself.

      “Mohammed Abu Khoussa, the first Palestinian runner to compete in the 100-meter event in the Olympics ran the worst time 11:89 of all competitors in the heats of the event.” Not true. He made it through the first round heat that was conducted for the lower ranking sprinters. I give him enormous credit for trying his best, eventhough it was obvious that he was injured as both thighs were heavily bandaged. This usually usually indicates a hamstring string injury. He ended his last Olympic race writhing in pain on the track, and what does Mayhem do? Laugh at him. Pathetic.

    • eljay
      August 15, 2016, 1:19 pm

      || Mayhem: Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment. … ||

      But Zio-supremacists the world over are hateful and immoral hypocrites. That’s nothing to (jim) crow about.

    • Kay24
      August 15, 2016, 1:38 pm

      “Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment.”

      Then imagine how big the embarrassment should be for Israel’s DECADES of occupation, and the shameful land grabs. Of course anyone thick skinned….

    • John O
      August 15, 2016, 4:03 pm

      @mayhem

      “Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment.”

      Reminds me of the classic exchange in an episode of “Fawlty Towers” –

      Basil: Sybil! You’re embarrassing the guests.

      Sybil: No, Basil. I’m embarrassing you.

    • amigo
      August 15, 2016, 5:01 pm

      “Palestinians competing at the Olympics are an embarrassment. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/checkpoint-palestinian-jerusalem/#comment-171226” Mayhem.

      Says the illegal squatter from the gladiator state of Zioberia which happens to have a grand total of nine Olympic medals —not one of them Gold.This from a state of 8 million.Ireland has half that population and has nineteen medals , of which nine are gold.From where I sit , zioberia,s participation is a joke.I would have thought that Israel,s most moral army could dominate the track , given the amount of running they do , both chasing down Palestinian children and hightailing it away from serious opponents.

      Go back to sleep mayhem , you are an embarrassment to decent Jewish people.

      • Kay24
        August 15, 2016, 5:26 pm

        Thanks for those interesting stats Amigo. It seems those who brag that all humanity should be grateful for their endless inventions and making (stolen) lands bloom, are full of hot air, and no Gold medals. Heh.

        Mayhem must have a thick skin and head, because he got embarrassed by excellent comments here in response to his lame comment, but like a gnat keeps making a nuisance of him/her self in MDW.

  5. Talkback
    August 14, 2016, 6:31 am

    I was hoping for an explanation after the COGAT’s response. Even the settler state’s Apartheid permits for Nonjews don’t gurantee that their human right of freedom of movement is not violated.

  6. Blake
    August 14, 2016, 7:10 am

    No one seems to be bothered that she even needed to apply for a permit in the first instance?

    • asherpat
      August 14, 2016, 12:25 pm

      why should Israel let a non-citizen without a permit? I wonder if an Israeli Jew will get a permit to visit say, Nablus? “Nobody seems to be bothered” about it either, isn’t it?

      • echinococcus
        August 14, 2016, 4:06 pm

        Ascher

        why should Israel let a non-citizen without a permit?

        Don’t tell me you don’t get why an illegitimate invader entity with no right to even be there would not have the right to decide to admit or reject any of the owners of sovereignty over the whole country.
        You really can’t get that?

        I wonder if an Israeli Jew will get a permit to visit say, Nablus?

        Why, if the person –no matter hisher actual religion– is a descendant of legitimate Palestinian citizens as of the start of the invasion, of course visiting or residence cannot be refused. Would be scandalous otherwise. All others will need an immigration permit from the owners of all sovereignty over Palestine: the Palestinian people.

        “Nobody seems to be bothered” about it either, isn’t it? – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/checkpoint-palestinian-jerusalem/#comment-851149

      • Talkback
        August 15, 2016, 3:12 am

        Asherpat:’why should Israel let a non-citizen without a permit?’

        Yeah why should a colonial state allow a native to freely move inside his homeland, but outside of his bantustan enclave? That wouldn’t be Apartheid at all.

      • eljay
        August 15, 2016, 11:10 am

        || asherpat: why should Israel let a non-citizen without a permit? … ||

        Israel should not be occupying and colonizing the Free City of Jerusalem or determining who should be permitted or denied access to its swimming pools.

        || … I wonder if an Israeli Jew will get a permit to visit say, Nablus? … ||

        Wonder all you want – it won’t make the past and on-going (war) crimes of the “Jewish State” any less unjust and immoral.

      • MHughes976
        August 16, 2016, 12:57 pm

        Israel or anyone would be exceptionally and conspicuously mean actively to obstruct someone pursuing an honourable ambition just because of being a non-citizen. And Israel has not done this. But in all the circumstances one recalls that the tender mercies of oppressors are quite harsh.

  7. John O
    August 14, 2016, 11:56 am

    Of course there’s another reason – “hygiene” – why the Israelis don’t want this woman in their swimming pools:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/israeli-hygiene-culture/

    • Marnie
      August 15, 2016, 12:20 am

      I think you’ve gotten to the meat of the matter John O – lest we forget about the israeli predilection for hygiene (not personal so much, just everyone else’s).

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 16, 2016, 10:07 am

        “@CPD – Gee whiz, you sound scared to death of any venue that treats Palestinians as equals.”

        Not at all, I am an active supporter of the Special Olympics and such, giving people a leg up, as it were.

        But the implication that Ms al-Atrash’ performance was due to alleged lack of access to an Olympic pool… the truth being that she is simply not elite calibre, no amount of training in any pool could bridge the gap. Kudos for her tying though, she admits that she was not there for the event, but for political reasons..

        “Now they [Yank blacks in baseball] dominate”

        More like Latinos, primarily from Caribbean countries, really.

        Lol, and not AWM, a lass of Irish & Welsh parents, Navy brat so lived all over, half-years in far-eastern Western Cape, but live in States now, Down East Maine.

      • Marnie
        August 17, 2016, 6:29 am

        “More like Latinos, primarily from Caribbean countries, really.”

        Really. I see you’re also ignorant about the fact that the Caribbean was a testing ground for Africans on their way to the Americas. Have you ever been to Brazil? African descendants everywhere. Same with Cuba.

        “Not at all, I’m an active supporter of the Special Olympics and such, giving people a leg up, as it were”.

        – Maybe living all over, a navel brat and all, hasn’t given you the opportunity to develop any class, be you an innie or outie.

        “Lol, and not AWM, a lass of Irish & Welsh parents, Navy brat so lived all over, half-years in far-eastern Western Cape, but live in States now, Down East Maine.”

        – WFD –
        the clear and present danger is you? Lol.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 17, 2016, 1:24 pm

        Marnie spaketh thusly: “Really. I see you’re also ignorant about the fact that the Caribbean was a testing ground for Africans on their way to the Americas.”

        Hardly, most Caribbean Latinos are mostly or of at least some African descent, but you said ‘African-Americans’. The demographic stats are published by MLB, their categories. African-Americans’ exodus from baseball at all levels has been so marked that even MLB is concerned, and has instituted several outreach programmes.

        “Africans on their way to the Americas”

        Mmmm, not so much, the Caribbean being the final destination for a shite-ton of slaves in the Atlantic trade. That is where Spain, France, and Britain, even the Dutch and Danish, brought the vast majority of their slave trade. Even esteemed American historian Henry Gates estimates that the trade to the 13 Colonies was ‘only’ ~300,000, scant solace to one of the 300,000 though it be. The Yanks were not even the last to abolish slavery in the Americas, by several decades.

        But the Portuguese were the giants of the trade, almost half the Atlantic trade ended up in Brasil.

        And the Atlantic trade paled in comparison to that off the East coast of Africa by Arab traders, a trade that continues to this day.

        “the clear and present danger is you?”

        You appear to be ignorant of the seminal Free Speech USSC opinion in Schenck v. US, dealing with sedition. The CAPD test having been replaced by “imminent lawless action”, but CAPD is the catchier phrase, what?

      • Marnie
        August 18, 2016, 1:28 am

        @ClearAndPresentDanger

        “The demographic stats are published by MLB, their categories. African-Americans’ exodus from baseball at all levels has been so marked that even MLB is concerned, and has instituted several outreach programmes.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/checkpoint-palestinian-jerusalem/#sthash.8RmEmLaa.dpuf

        I found an interesting article addressing exactly that (no mention of outreach programs) and why, which you either missed or dismissed, kind of in the vein of your ‘special olympics’ remark.

        “I have nodded and uttered mmmhmms on many occasions listening to Rock dissect American race relations. Thus, I was eager to hear his comedic analysis explaining why black people have fallen out of love with America’s pastime. During a segment on HBO’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, Rock expressed his disappointment with Major League Baseball’s cold-shoulder treatment of African Americans. “It’s the only sport where there’s a right way to play the game—and it’s the white way,” Rock drolly asserted. He referred to himself as an endangered species—“a black baseball fan”—and impugned the game as being “old-fashioned and stuck in the past” with the “white hair, white guy announcers [and] cheesy old organ music.” This led to Rock to wonder, “Where’s the Beats by Dre?”

        Rock, moreover, bewailed baseball’s infatuation with tradition, its love affair with reenacting games first played in the mid-19th Century when slavery abound, and its insistence on building antique stadiums that hearkened back to the 1930s and 1940s when black Americans confronted white segregationist violence in its quotidian variety. He also sneered at the MLB’s dullness, its seeming penchant for being anti-fun. While the Caribbean Leagues have transformed baseball games into carnivals and the Korean Leagues have ritualized bat-flipping, Rock taunted MLB’s knack for keeping America’s pastime boring. It is not as if baseball has not tried to adopt more entertainment and swagger. As Rock stated, “Baseball has tried every trick in the book to be hip.” Unfortunately, it has never come off the right way. Rock, for example, ripped MLB for making even President Barack Obama and rapper 50 Cent appear un-cool, citing their awkward delivery of opening-game pitches. These developments, Rock insisted, have driven African Americans—both as fans and players—away.

        Rock’s assessment has legitimacy. As of the 2015 season, only 7.8 percent of MLB players are black—a stark contrast to the all-time high of 19 percent in 1986 when Rock’s own favorite team, the New York Mets, captured the World Series with black baseball stars like Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Kevin Mitchell, and Mookie Wilson. Since that time, the percentage of black baseball players has dropped precipitously. The 2014 National League Championship Series is illustrative of the decline in African American Major Leaguers. Neither the San Francisco Giants nor the St. Louis Cardinals featured a black player on their respective teams. As Rock put it, “How can you ever be in St. Louis and see no black people?” Worse, the crowds have been over 90% white—a disparity that might only be resembled by the Ferguson Police Department. The decline in African American baseball interest can even be observed at HBCUs. The predominantly black Stillman College has thirty-six players on its baseball team—all but one is white. Howard University ridded its baseball team while keeping sports like lacrosse and volleyball intact.

        So none of what Rock said was incorrect. He was, however, incomplete. Absent in his breakdown was a deeper insight into MLB’s racial past and its ongoing rebuff of African Americans that repeatedly have turned off and/or away would-be black baseball enthusiasts and participants.”

        For the full story, see: Baseball’s Black Problem | Sport in American History
        https://ussporthistory.com/2015/05/04/baseballs-black-problem

        As far as your MW name and not being up on the latest USSC opinions dealing with sedition, right, I’m ignorant. I just thought your was an attempt by some lad trying to sound tough. But ‘a lass’, I was wrong. Sorry.

      • ClearAndPresentDanger
        August 18, 2016, 10:41 pm

        @Marnie

        Apologies for skipping threads, but the ‘Reply’ option does not exist for the original thread. Yea, verily, WP sucketh mightily.
        +++++

        Wrt African-Americans dominating[sic] baseball (your words):

        Marnie spaketh thusly “I found an interesting article addressing exactly that (no mention of outreach programs) and why, which you either missed or dismissed”

        I missed or dismissed this article? It seems that you did, else you might not have made that bald assertion that African-Americans dominate baseball. Or the why they make up only ~8% of the players now? I was simply responding to your assertion. I have no predetermined benchmark of what % blacks should be playing the game.

        As to “no mention of outreach programs” in the article that you pasted, the MLB outreach is at the youth level. And of course no mention in the article about a comedian – it runs counter to the narrative.

        I like Chris Rock, he is about the only stand-up comedian I will watch. Bur are his droll one-liners and toss-offs the dispositive word on why blacks *do not* dominate baseball, and whose #s are have dropped precipitously over the last 30 years? Not really…
        +++++

        “impugned the game as being “old-fashioned and stuck in the past””

        Well, it is the oldest pro sport in the States, and yes, it does have its traditions. One either likes them or not. The statistics, too, baseball is obsessed with statistics.
        +++++

        “its love affair with reenacting games first played in the mid-19th Century”

        Cannot say that I have ever seen this, it is certainly not common.
        +++++

        “its insistence on building antique stadiums that hearkened back to the 1930s and 1940s when black Americans confronted white segregationist violence”

        This smacks of the current admin’s lead guy in the National Park Service, specifically given the task of increasing minority appreciation and use of the National Parks. Two of his pronouncements thus far have been ‘blacks do not like the Parks because the trees remind them of lynching’, and ‘Hispanics do not like the Parks because the Rangers’ uniforms look like Border Patrol’; (they do not, but hey, he has to come up with something, what?). There is no great move to build ‘antique stadiums’ and the few that have been built to be ‘evocative’ mainly suck.

        I love the old ballparks, there are only 2 pre-’62 parks left now – Fenway and Wrigley. I am fortunate to have been to both several times, as well as Yankee Stadium, Tiger Stadium, Comiskey Park, and Candlestick, the oldest of the ‘new’ ballparks built in ’58, before they were razed and replaced. All brilliant examples of baseball’s grand architectural past.
        +++++

        “He also sneered at the MLB’s dullness, its seeming penchant for being anti-fun. Rock taunted MLB’s knack for keeping America’s pastime boring”

        The game does not lend itself to spiking the ball, or dunks, true enough. And it is a very deliberate game, certainly slower than Yank football, or basketball. An acquired taste, methinks Chris may not be as big a fan as is suggested.
        +++++

        “Rock, for example, ripped MLB for making even President Barack Obama and rapper 50 Cent appear un-cool, citing their awkward delivery of opening-game pitches.”

        ‘Making’? As in put pressure on them, and forced them to agree to throw out the first pitch? Really?

        Wrt to ‘appear[ing] un-cool’ and ‘awkward delivery’, I cannot speak to 50 Cent, but Obama throws like a girl, there is no getting around that. Not.his.game. He knows that, and could have easily declined if he was concerned about appearing ‘un-cool’ and ‘awkward’. Though he is not particularly athletic, I would wager that the prez was OK with whatever pitching he agreed to do.
        +++++

        “the crowds have been over 90% white”

        Any idea what the ‘correct’ ratio is supposed to be? Over the years all pro sports audiences have become increasingly dominated by corporate clients, the average person of any stripe can hardly afford the tickets, parking, etc. That has been noticeable to me over the years, and I attend a good number of baseball games over the season, Boston or Annapolis (Baltimore). I was down in Boston this past weekend to drop my niece off at Logan for her return to Cornwall, and stayed an extra night just to attend a BoSox game at Fenway. (and to make Da jealous).
        +++++

        But the Number 1 reason why the of blacks in the MLB has dropped is…. basketball. Yes, it is that easy.

  8. iResistDe4iAm
    August 14, 2016, 12:29 pm

    What Israel calls permits, South Africa used to call Pass laws.

    Israel Has 101 Different Types of Permits Governing Palestinian Movement
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-has-101-different-types-of-permits-governing-palestinian-movement-1.403039

    Checkpoints, Physical Obstructions, and Forbidden Roads
    http://www.btselem.org/freedom_of_movement/checkpoints_and_forbidden_roads

    “In April 2015 there were 96 fixed checkpoints in the West Bank, including 57 internal checkpoints, located well within the West Bank.

    In addition, the military erects hundreds of surprise flying checkpoints along West Bank roads. In April 2015 the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) counted 361 flying checkpoints…”

    In addition, Israel has blocked the access roads to some of the main traffic arteries in the West Bank by means of hundreds of physical obstructions, such as dirt embankments, concrete blocks, iron gates and trenches. The number of obstructions fluctuates often, depending on political and security circumstances. For the year 2014, OCHA counted an average of 358 physical obstructions a month…”

    • asherpat
      August 14, 2016, 2:43 pm

      and all these checkpoints and permits are with no justification?

      How about dozens of attacks on Jewish civilians? Violent resistance may be justified, but you can’t be genuine to claim that military response within the laws of war to any resistance isn’t justified – this simply can’t be genuine.

      • echinococcus
        August 14, 2016, 3:47 pm

        Don’t be absurd, Ascher, resistance is justified precisely because the occupier has no right to be there at all. The occupier’s very presence is the crime. The very basic single law of war is that you cannot avail yourself of it if you are the aggressor.

        Civilians? Who told the Zionist entity to put civilians in harm’s way by starting the 1947 war, and continue to import more civilians, then even over the abusive conquest line agreed by even its own sycophants and collaborators? How come they are still there, if their so-called government cared for them at all?

        Those who don’t want to be in the line of fire already had and still have the opportunity to clear out. Any Meistervolk Zionist entity citizen who exceptionally finds oneself without the right to 1, 2, 3… other passports is guaranteed to be taken up by the US and receive generous (“community”) welfare.

      • oldgeezer
        August 14, 2016, 4:07 pm

        @asher

        Give it a rest. When Israel protects Palestinians from attacks by the criminal settlers you may have an argument. Until then you don’t It is the responsibility of the occupying power to protect the occupied civilian population.

        Just another issue in the litany of criminality and GC violations by the rogue state.

        The intent of most of these checkpoints etc is to make life miserable for the Palestinians. Hoping they go away. Israelis both a serial and massive violator of human rights.

      • zaid
        August 14, 2016, 5:57 pm

        The civilians you are talking about are illegal settlers, thus the only legal response for Israel is to evacuate them.

        This is international law.

        You dont have the right to restrict people in order to secure your theft.

      • Talkback
        August 15, 2016, 3:55 am

        Asherpat: ‘How about dozens of attacks on Jewish civilians?’

        Funny that the same pseudo arguments were used by all settler colonialists. Shouldn’t we rather introduce a permit system for non native Jews in historic Palestine? Just in case they come up with the idea of butchering, expelling or dispossesing Nonjews to acquire land by force, a majority by expulsion and establish an upgraded version of Apartheid?

        Asherpat: ‘Violent resistance may be justified, but you can’t be genuine to claim that military response within the laws of war to any resistance isn’t justified – this simply can’t be genuine.’

        Do you really think that anything that Zionist settler colonialism did to the Palestinians whether under British or Zionist gun has ever been genuine? Do you really think that securing a crime (like settler colonialism) isn’t part of the crime?

      • Annie Robbins
        August 16, 2016, 1:00 am

        The civilians you are talking about are illegal settlers, thus the only legal response for Israel is to evacuate them.

        the settlers are human shields — therefore their deaths are merely collateral damage according to israeli doctrine. maybe a knock twice 30 seconds notice to evacuate before a mass slaughter would make it a-ok.

  9. Qualtrough
    August 14, 2016, 11:13 pm

    Thank you asherpat for revealing Zionism’s truly ugly face for all to see. I suspect that other less hard-core Zionists are face-palming after reading what you spewed here.

    • a blah chick
      August 15, 2016, 12:49 pm

      “I suspect that other less hard-core Zionists are face-palming after reading what you spewed here.” I would hope so because it is quite vile. That Palestinian guy showed more heart and guts than that Israeli dude who won a medal.

    • inbound39
      August 16, 2016, 2:52 am

      I guess it is the inevitable result of decades of snorting Ziocaine that creates the bizarre thought processes of people like Asherpat.

      • MHughes976
        August 16, 2016, 12:49 pm

        No on can prove that an individual competitor would have done better in better conditions but what can be expected if there is an Occupation without a clear end in sight? It must mean coercive control, tending to increase rather than diminish, which will impose cost and trouble on the population concerned, holding them back whether they have special ambitions or just want to live normal lives. Sometimes there will be incidents that dramatise this underlying situation and despite all the bluster (it’s a sob story! She’s a born loser!) the reputation of the occupier/conqueror will take a slight dent.

  10. a blah chick
    August 15, 2016, 12:41 pm

    Annie Robbins sez: “either way, it’s not uncommon in sports for people of other nationalities/citizenships to represent other countries.”

    It happens a lot. A number of East Africans in fact have gotten Bahraini citizenship to compete internationally.

    Here’s a thought how many ex-Soviet athletes has Israel had on its Olympic teams? Also their 400m man is an African American married to an Israeli.

    • ClearAndPresentDanger
      August 16, 2016, 10:12 pm

      Annie Robbins sez: “either way, it’s not uncommon in sports for people of other nationalities/citizenships to represent other countries.”

      Sure, common especially in the pro sports – basketball, hockey, football (soccer), tennis – ex-pats living and playing in another country, either as a legal resident or having naturalised but maintained their original citizenship.

      But one does not see many in Christian Zimmerman’s (the irony in the name slays me) situation, obtaining citizenship in a tiny non-competitive country, living and training in his native land, yet competing for the small country. Zimmerman’s political feelings aside, it smacks of Nationality-shopping to gain access to the Olympics that he would not have in his native Germany. One wonders what the upside for Palestine was other than an admittedly spectacular Dutch Warmblood sporting Palestinian colours..

      “how many ex-Soviet athletes has Israel had on its Olympic teams”

      Unknown, fewer than one might think given that Jews were not a favoured class in the USSR. But they all made Aliyah and became Israeli citizens, and make their homes there.

  11. Ossinev
    August 15, 2016, 2:37 pm

    Lets see we have had JSIL whining and whinging about terrorism as in terrorism,economic terrorism,diplomatic terrorism,cultural terrorism to name but a few. It can`t be long before one of their fascist goon spokepersons pops up to complain about “sports terrorism”

  12. Mooser
    August 15, 2016, 7:04 pm

    I just don’t get it. Okay, first they come and sneer about Palestinian athletes, which only succeeds in giving people a bad impression,, to the point that I am never quite sure if they are doing anti-Semitic parody or are sincere. They sure do follow all the protocols for parody.
    Naturally, this generates a slew of responses.
    And then, having antagonized everybody, giving the image of Zionism a horrible voice, and generated lots of good stats for Mondo, they consider they’ve done a good days work.
    They’re like an Urkel possessed by a dybbuk.

  13. iResistDe4iAm
    August 16, 2016, 5:49 am

    The Immorality Games

    If there was an international competition to rank immorality, Israel would certainly be one of the top contenders.

    War Crime Category

    25 members of the Abu Jamea family, including 18 children wiped out in their own home
    http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20140721_killing_of_abu_jame_family

    29 members of the Samouni family wiped out when Israeli soldiers forced 100 people into one house and then bombed it
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/family-who-lost-29-members-in-gaza-war-we-envy-the-dead-1.5943

    Israel’s Mass Killing of Palestinian Families in Gaza
    http://imeu.org/article/israels-mass-killing-of-palestinian-families-in-gaza

    Israeli strike kills four Palestinian children playing soccer on Gaza beach
    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/israeli-palestinian-children

    Summary Execution Category

    Israeli soldier filmed executing wounded Palestinian man
    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/israeli-soldier-filmed-executing-wounded-palestinian-man/

    War crime: video shows sniper killing of wounded Gaza civilian
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/war-crime-video-shows-sniper-killing-wounded-gaza-civilian

    New video shows Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army on Nakba Day posed no threat to soldiers
    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/palestinian-israeli-soldiers

    Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinian schoolgirl
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

    Human Shield Category

    Using a child as a human bomb detector: Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldiers-human-shield-avoid-jail

    Palestinian teen describes being used as a human shield by Israeli forces in Abu Dis
    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/06/palestinian-describes-israeli/
    “soldiers forced him to sit on a revolving chair that spun as the jeep moved, giving them easier access to kick him from all sides” [1]
    [1] Note: Special commendation for ingenuity (Torture category)

    Ethnic Cleansing Category (21st century)

    Bombing towns “back to the Stone Age” using WMDs: 360-degree panorama of flattened town of Khuza’a, Gaza
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11012640/Gaza-conflict-360-degree-panorama-of-flattened-town-of-Khuzaa-Gaza.html

    New World Record for home demolitions: Israel demolishes Israeli Bedouin village al-Araqib 101 times
    http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=772398

  14. echinococcus
    August 18, 2016, 4:05 am

    Olympics, shmolympics. Check this out:

    https://www.rt.com/sport/356335-palestinian-flags-football-match/

    No need for a traveling Palestinian team, either.

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