Anti-occupation activists stand with Black Lives Matter as Jewish orgs attack movement over Israel criticisms

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The Black Lives Matter movement’s advocacy for Palestinians has caused a rift to open over Israel between younger and older American Jews, and there’s no sign of it mending any time soon.

This week, activists from Jewish Voice for Peace and other groups stood behind Black Lives Matter while more conservative parts of the American Jewish community condemned the movement after it criticized Israeli policies towards Palestinians, which it characterized as “genocide,” and endorsed the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement in a newly-released platform titled “Vision for Black Lives.” It’s the latest example of how the growing Palestinian rights movement has driven a wedge in the American Jewish community. The controversy follows familiar pattern, activists say, of punishment for disloyalty to Israel.

In its platform, Black Lives Matter called for the U.S. government to stop supplying military aid to Israel, which it uses to further the occupation of Palestinian territory. The statement from the Movement for Black Lives, signed by dozens of affiliated groups, framed the question as an issue of civil rights just as it does its own movement.

“The US justifies and advances the global war on terror via its alliance with Israel and is complicit in the genocide taking place against the Palestinian people,” the statement read.

“Israel is an apartheid state with over 50 laws on the books that sanction discrimination against the Palestinian people. Palestinian homes and land are routinely bulldozed to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers also regularly arrest and detain Palestinians as young as 4 years old without due process. Everyday, Palestinians are forced to walk through military checkpoints along the US-funded apartheid wall.”

The statement elicited outrage from groups like the Jewish Community Relations Council of Boston, which said in a statement on Wednesday that it planned to “dissociate” itself from Black Lives Matter.

“To conflate the experiences of African-Americans and Palestinians oversimplifies complex matters and advances false equivalencies that diminish the unique nature of each,” read the statement, signed by JCRC Boston President Adam Suttin and Executive Director Jeremy Burton. “JCRC cannot and will not align ourselves with organizations that falsely and maliciously assert that Israel is committing ‘genocide.’”

While it pursued “dissociation” from Black Lives Matter, the group said it would still support racial equality and fair policing in the United States.

“As we dissociate ourselves from the Black Lives Matter platform and those Black Lives Matter  organizations that embrace it, we recommit ourselves unequivocally to the pursuit of justice for all Americans, and to working together with our friends and neighbors in the African-American community, whose experience of the criminal justice system is, far too often, determined by race,” adding that black Americans in remain “cherished partners here in Boston, a community that has staunchly supported Israel’s existence and rights as a nation.”

The Black Lives Matter platform also received push back from more left wing groups than JCRC, including T’ruah: The Rabbinical Call for Human rights. They too bristled at the word “genocide,” saying that while what Israel does to Palestinians is worthy of condemnation, it doesn’t qualify as “genocide,” a punishable criminal violation of international humanitarian law.

Israel’s “military occupation does not rise to the level of genocide—a term defined as ‘the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.’ While we agree that the occupation violates the human rights of Palestinians, and has caused too many deaths, the Israeli government is not carrying out a plan intended to wipe out the Palestinians. There is no basis for comparing this situation to the genocides of the 20th century, such as those in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Rwanda, or Armenia, or the Nazi Holocaust in Europe, each of which constituted a calculated plan to destroy specific groups, and each of which killed hundreds of thousands to millions of people,” the organization’s statement reads.

To Jewish American activists working for Palestinian rights, these kind of statements bear a hypocrisy that will further alienate them from what they call the Jewish American Establishment.

Two young women, part of IfNotNow, an anti-Occupation protest group that staged a protest at ADL’s offices over Passover, identified JCRC with the Establishment that they say is putting roadblocks to peace and human rights between Israelis and Palestinians, and now in the United States.

“JCRC’s statement distancing itself from the Movement for Black Lives because that movement dares to criticize the Israeli occupation provides further evidence of how out of touch the leadership of the American Jewish establishment truly is,” wrote Ally Little and Michelle Weiser in an opinion piece for the Forward titled: “Don’t like Black Lives Matter? Get ready to lose young Jews like us.”

“JCRC is obstructing racial justice work, erasing black Jews, and attempting to maintain a status quo of Jews who are progressive on all issues except for Palestine,” they added.

Rabbi Brant Rosen takes on the T’ruah statement, which he says he finds, “much more disturbing than the one released by the Boston JCRC. While the latter group has always sought to counter the growth of the BLM movement, T’ruah purports to stand in solidarity with them.” Rosen continues, “T’ruah does not give the BLM ‘the benefit of the doubt’ when it issues an immediate counter-statement such as this; tantamount to a group in a position of power saying to an oppressed group, ‘we will stand in solidarity with you but only on our terms.'”

One striking contrast between the words of JCRC and of the activists is that they recognize that some Jews in the United States are people of color too, while JCRC treats the two groups as separate. Jewish Voice for Peace, another activist organization that marched with Black Lives Matter in Philadelphia last week during the Democratic National Convention, said it both endorsed the platform “without reservation,” and was starting to work with Jews of Color in Solidarity with Palestine, another group. The JVP statement says, “These Jewish organizations are rejecting a thorough and inspiring transformational set of policy ideas developed by a broad coalition of Black leaders simply because these Black leaders have explicitly linked the experiences and struggles of Palestinians with their own.”

In their statement, JVP recognizes its own leadership is made of European, Ashkenazi, Jews. and was modifying its tactics with that in mind.

“Because the leadership team of JVP is currently all white Ashkenazi Jews, we are slowing down to ensure our members who are Jews of Color can lead the way, particularly in matters of racial justice,” the statement reads. “This is part of our ongoing project to dismantle white supremacy inside of JVP.”

Jewish people advocating for civil rights of people of color is nothing new in American politics. Indeed, two Jewish civil rights workers, Andrew Goodman and Mickey Schwerner, both New Yorkers, along with black Mississippian activists James Chaney, were executed and buried by the Ku Klux Klan in Philadelphia, Mississippi in 1964. Their crime was attempting to register black voters, a direct challenge to White supremacy in the state.

At that time, however, Jewish identity in the United States had not become entangled with loyalty to Israel, and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip had not even begun. That occupation, Black Lives Matter activists say, resembles what they see in their own communities in the U.S. That the word “genocide” would find its way into the language of their criticism of these repressive policies is not surprising. Indeed, one Chicago police reform group is called “We Charge Genocide.” But that word, one that had to be invented after the holocaust to describe the monumental crime, elicits outrage from groups who stand by Israel and dismiss criticism against the troubled Middle Eastern country as not recognizing the “complexity” or the situation.

“By dismissing the entire platform over its critique of Israel, JCRC is complicit in perpetuating both racism and the occupation while standing in the way of black liberation,” write Little and Weiser in the Forward.

“The Jewish community can’t keep boasting about our involvement in the civil rights movement while giving half-hearted support to the civil rights movement alive in our streets today. We can’t let the knee-jerk dismissal of any criticism of Israel force white Jews to choose between being part of the Jewish community and standing with black lives,” they write.

Amid all this, Jews of color have to navigate a world in which Ashkenazi Jews typically occupy positions of privilege in American society, just as white Christians do. The Ashkenazi Jewish establishment, as identified by JVP and others, is now having to start answering to Jews who do not consider themselves white.

Rachel Angel, 25, is an American Jew from Miami, and part of IfNotNow. She is of Sephardic descent, and her grandparents, spoke Ladino, a melange of Hebrew and Spanish.

 The holocaust killed most of the people in the Jewish village Thessaloniki. When they came to Coney Island, Russian Jews denied their Jewish identity. With tan skin, she gets questioned about her Jewish bona fides.

“I guess it I just feel like I don’t fit in anywhere,” she said. “Because I feel like in a lot of ways Jews have become ‘White’. People question me about my ethnicity.”

Angel added that, beyond skin color, allegiance to Israel has become the barometer for legitimacy as a Jew, at least in the eyes of the Jewish establishment. That sentiment trickles down to personal relationships too. Angel cited dissenting Jews like Bernie Sanders and Simone Zimmerman as examples of victims of a “witch hunt” by Jews against fellow Jews.

“It’s happened to me. I’ve lost friends for being vocal about my values,” she said. Hardest is the contradiction between Jews proudly wearing the patch of social justice advocacy, but not extending that to Palestinians. Angel feels it is hypocritical to pay lip service to civil rights for black Americans, but not extend that same sympathy to Palestinians, especially when Jews have suffered so much under white supremacist systems themselves.

“It puts you in a cognitive dissonance. I didn’t grow up being ‘white’,” she said. “I also don’t really identify as a person of color, but I also don’t identify as white,” she explained.

“I feel like I can’t stand with these racist-ass people when the tribalism gets pushed so far because of this obsession with Israel.”

JCRC did not reply to a request for comment for this article.
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  1. Boomer
    August 5, 2016, 2:34 pm

    Thanks for this. Prior to reading your report, the first I knew about the Black Lives Matter statement was via a WaPo article, which focused on the negative reaction to it:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/08/05/jewish-groups-decry-black-lives-matter-platforms-view-on-israel/

    • Mooser
      August 5, 2016, 2:46 pm

      Good Lord, “Boomer”!
      That article: “Jewish groups decry Black Lives Matter platform’s view on Israel”
      is under the heading: Acts of Faith!!!!

      Well, well, well, looks like our “Negro Problem” has become Jewish holy scripture. Thank you, Washington Post, thank you Zionists.

      I think there’s about half that bottle of gin left yet…

      • Emory Riddle
        August 5, 2016, 3:24 pm

        Black Lives good.

        Jewish lives better.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 5, 2016, 4:13 pm

        i wonder if wapo thought the BLM platform was worthy of coverage otherwise, or was the “angered major Jewish organizations” the only thing that prompted the article. the platform was published on monday .

      • inbound39
        August 5, 2016, 9:08 pm

        Don’t worry Mooser….here is something the Zionists can’t argue with…it’s cast in iron clad proof!…….http://www.palestinechronicle.com/palestine-made-metal-sewage-covers-refutes-israels-claim-territory/

      • silamcuz
        August 6, 2016, 12:23 am

        Black Lives good.

        Jewish lives better.

        All Jews are superior. But white Jews are more superior than others.

      • Mooser
        August 6, 2016, 3:41 pm

        “here is something the Zionists can’t argue with…it’s cast in iron clad proof!…… “

        Thanks, “Inbound39” Like they say: ‘There are no atheists in a manhole.’

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 5:29 pm

        “All Jews are superior. But white Jews are more superior than others.”

        Nice work, “Silamcuz”,
        You got your basic philosophy into two short sentences.

      • silamcuz
        August 8, 2016, 12:44 am

        “You got your basic philosophy into two short sentences. ”

        Everything boils down to pretty much that, not just Israel but pretty much every other Western capitalist nations.

  2. Annie Robbins
    August 5, 2016, 4:07 pm

    thanks wilson, excellent news and excellent coverage.

    question:

    “The Black Lives Matter platform also received push back from more left wing groups than JCRC”

    i didn’t realize the Jewish Community Relations Council was a “left wing” group.

  3. hophmi
    August 5, 2016, 5:50 pm

    Is this a platform for BLM or a platform for some groups associated with BLM? Everyone seems to be conflating the two, even though major BLM leaders like Deray McKesson aren’t part of it.

    • inbound39
      August 5, 2016, 9:11 pm

      Take a valium Hophmi and calm down….they are merely telling the truth about Israel. Honesty, as you know, is the best policy.

  4. Marnie
    August 6, 2016, 1:37 am

    “Hardest is the contradiction between Jews proudly wearing the patch of social justice advocacy, but not extending that to Palestinians. Angel feels it is hypocritical to pay lip service to civil rights for black Americans, but not extend that same sympathy to Palestinians, especially when Jews have suffered so much under white supremacist systems themselves. ”

    I wonder if Angel is referring to nazism? There was a time in the u.s. when Jews weren’t allowed to join certain country clubs , live in certain neighborhoods or when Jewish doctors weren’t given privileges in most hospitals . I think in the u.s. though that Jews have, for the most part and certainly more than African Americans (who’ve been there much, much longer), done very well. (I realize Michael Oren grew up with the horrors of antisemitism at every turn, literally having to fight his way through childhood, etc….). I’m not sure and hope to be corrected, but I don’t think there was an organized terrorist organization lynching Jews or burning synagogues and Jewish schools. I’m glad that she sees there is something very, very wrong with Jews supporting the civil rights of anyone except Palestinians. Not the same but much worse imo is the conditional support some Jews will give Palestinians (provided they remember their place and don’t push it, with such action like boycotts, or using such inflammatory or offensive (to them) language to describe the ‘peculiar institution’ of occupation like genocide). This conditional support of some Jews and non-Jews alike, this lip service, the garbage – yes we know things are bad, but just be patient, now isn’t the time, etc., is the same patrician, ‘Father Knows Best’, condescending behavior of the West towards the rights of Palestinian this crap that was used on African Americans for decades which I think led to the civil rights movement and the latest social justice movement Black Lives Matter. Any suffering by Jews in america is nothing compared to the indigenous people of the country and the people who were stolen from their country to build what became the u.s.

    • echinococcus
      August 6, 2016, 10:43 am

      Marnie,

      Hardest is the contradiction between Jews proudly wearing the patch of social justice advocacy, but not extending that to Palestinians. Angel feels…

      Were it just for that contradiction…
      Have a look at the picture on top.
      Those kids have been brought up so goddam clueless in the tribal cocoon that they are flashing the main symbol used by the State of [email protected]@$$ Israel!
      As if all the world was obliged to know all about obscure religions, property over symbols, yadda yadda. Like walking in an antifascist demo proudly carrying a Hakenkreuz: later trying to discuss Hindoo happiness symbols won’t help you.

    • Doubtom
      August 6, 2016, 12:39 pm

      Gosh, Marnie, I think we should all line up and after a proper ritual involving painting our bodies blue and dancing round the fire, commit mass suicide in retribution for our common sins, or those of our ancestors. Would this right the wrong?

      • Marnie
        August 6, 2016, 11:50 pm

        Gosh Doubtom, I don’t know where you’re coming from or going with that remark but self-pity and mockery is certainly a lot easier than just doing the right thing and has been the road well-traveled thus far.

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 1:20 pm

        ” I don’t know where you’re coming from or going with that remark”

        “Marnie, I think he is trying to remind us that the indomitable will of 200 million united Jews can establish their own notions of right and wrong, and don’t have to answer to anybody.
        And he is probably right.

  5. James Michie
    August 6, 2016, 8:53 am

    HEY! That’s GREAT, Jewish Voice for Peace! Now how about a banner and movement for “PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER”! If you can support Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against Zionist Israel, why not support “PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER”, as well as “PALESTINIAN INDEPENDENCE MATTERS” and “PALESTINIAN FREEDOM MATTERS” and “PALESTINIAN JUSTICE MATTERS” and “PALESTINIAN EQUALITY MATTERS”!

    Why not, Jewish Voice for Peace?

    Jim Michie, Member, Jewish Voice for Peace

    • Annie Robbins
      August 6, 2016, 7:31 pm

      Now how about a banner and movement for “PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER”! If you can support Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against Zionist Israel, why not support “PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER” …

      Why not, Jewish Voice for Peace?

      maybe it just never occurred to jvp before to make a banner and movement supporting palestinian lives, freedom for palestinians, or justice for palestinians.

      • James Michie
        August 6, 2016, 11:33 pm

        Perhaps not, Annie, so I think I’ll make that suggestion at the next webinar. Hope to see you there. Cheers!

      • Annie Robbins
        August 10, 2016, 5:26 am

        i was snarking james. try googling “jewish voice for peace free palestine” by image. you’ll encounter an already existing movement, including many banners. as a fellow member, i assumed you knew that. ciao

  6. Shingo
    August 6, 2016, 10:53 am

    I wonder what these hypocritical pro Israeli groups have to say to BLM about the fact that Israel buddied up to apartheid South Africa while the rest of the world was boycotting it?

  7. James Michie
    August 6, 2016, 12:01 pm

    Well, Annie, I see that you killed my comment on this piece and I’d like to know why? Is it because you don’t like the thought of Jewish Voice for Peace coming up with a banner and movement, “Palestinian Lives Matter”, or “Palestinian Independence Matters”, or Palestinian Freedom Matters”, or Palestinian Justice Matters”, or Palestinian Equality Matters”? And especially since these suggestions came from me, one of your “favorite” commenters, Jim Michie, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace? So what’s your problem, Annie?

    • Annie Robbins
      August 6, 2016, 7:48 pm

      Is it because you don’t like the thought of Jewish Voice for Peace coming up with a banner and movement ….

      jvp is already engaged in a movement (w/many banners) for palestinian lives, independence, freedom and justice.

      i put your comment back and responded to it above.

  8. Boo
    August 6, 2016, 2:08 pm

    “To conflate the experiences of African-Americans and Palestinians oversimplifies complex matters”

    Israel has long been delighted with most black churches’ unexamined good feelings toward it, prompted largely by black Christians’ understandable historical identification with the Exodus narrative. In former times, this identification stood up quite well to scrutiny, nevertheless being more intuitive than complexly reasoned.

    Its instinctive carryover to the nation of Israel was equally uncomplex, but throughout the last 50 years we certainly haven’t heard the Israeli government term it an “oversimplification of complex matters”. On the contrary — when it crossed their minds at all — they reveled in it.

    Now black people and black churches have begun to examine the sociopolitical situation much more closely, and they’ve discovered that the old analogy no longer holds water. Indeed, they’ve begun to apply it to the distress experienced every day by the new Israeli millennium’s “hewers of wood and drawers of water”, today’s Palestinians (and kushim.)

    There’s nothing complex about this at all. It’s patently obvious to even the most casual observer. But trust Israel to insult people of color everywhere by claiming spuriously that it’s too deep and subtle for our feeble powers of comprehension.

  9. Jackdaw
    August 6, 2016, 2:45 pm

    I was at the community pool today, here in Central Israel.

    Lots of young parents playing with their kids. Quite a few pregnant women.
    Everyone I saw looked happy, hopeful and unconcerned. A day of relaxation.
    Tomorrow, it’s off to work, and a better future.

    Israel will survive BDS and BLM and JVP. Israel will survive without the USA.
    The Arab world is crumbling around her, and all the King’s men can’t put that back together.
    If Israel must mow the lawn in Gaza or take some lumps in a war with Hezbollah, well, there’s always the morning after.

    • Mooser
      August 6, 2016, 3:45 pm

      ” Quite a few pregnant women.”

      Yes, they may be pregnant, but that doesn’t tell you who the father is. Like it was any of your business, of course.

      The Jews of the rest of the world will, and soon repudiate Zionism. That, of course, won’t be enough, but it will help.

      And “Jackdaw” every post you make will help convince us that for Judaism to survive, Zionism must be expunged from it. Thanks.

      • Jackdaw
        August 7, 2016, 2:10 am

        @Mooser

        “And “Jackdaw” every post you make will help convince us that for Judaism to survive, Zionism must be expunged from it. Thanks ”

        All I’ve done is slipped a contemporary snapshot of Israel into the Mondoweiss echo chamber. Sorry if I’ve disturbed your vespers, or whatever it is you guys do in there.

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 1:26 pm

        “All I’ve done is slipped a contemporary snapshot of Israel into the Mondoweiss echo chamber.”

        Exactly! Every comment from you does exactly that, and has the effect I noted.

        I’m glad you agree. Thanks for backing me up.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 7, 2016, 4:27 pm

        RE: “If Israel must mow the lawn in Gaza or take some lumps in a war with Hezbollah, well, there’s always the morning after.” ~ Jackdaw

        MY COMMENT: Yet another bull on parade! ! !

        ■ Rage Against the Machine – Bulls on Parade (SNL 1996)

        . . . Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
        Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
        I walk tha corner to tha rubble that used to be a library
        Line up to tha mind cemetery now
        What we don’t know keeps tha contracts alive an movin’
        They don’t gotta burn tha books they just remove ’em
        While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells
        Rally round tha family, pockets full of shells

        Rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
        They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells (i.e., ammunition)
        They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
        They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells

        Bulls on parade

        Come wit it now!
        Come wit it now!
        Bulls on parade!
        Bulls on parade!
        Bulls on parade!
        Bulls on parade!
        Bulls on parade!

        P.S. Read about the what made the above performance by RATM on SNL in 1996 so controversial. – http://www.musicfanclubs.org/rage/snl.htm

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 7, 2016, 4:54 pm

        RE:“[T]here’s always the morning after.” ~ Jackdaw

        MY COMMENT: Now poor Jackdaw is channeling Maureen McGovern!* Who’s next, shock jock Michael Savage? Or, will it be Howard Stern (as in trashing Roger Waters)?

        * Maureen McGovern – “The Morning After” from The Poseidon Adventure 1973

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 5:38 pm

        “RE:“[T]here’s always the morning after.” ~ Jackdaw

        From what “Jackdaw” tells us, he doesn’t get too many of those.

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 6:13 pm

        “JLewis”, wasn’t there a US submarine (Just pre WW1 or between), which gulped a bunch of water during a sea-trials dive, and stood on end in about 150 feet of water until they could cut through the small section of the stern projecting about water and release the crew?

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 7, 2016, 10:50 pm

        USS Squalus Disaster

        ■ The Greatest Submarine Rescue Ever: Saving the Squalus – http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-greatest-submarine-rescue-ever-2/

        ■ Squalus: Terror at 243 Feet – http://www.nationalgeographic.com/k19/disasters_detail3.html

        The Terrible Hours: The Man Behind the Greatest Submarine Rescue in History
        Hardcover – Deckle Edge, September 22, 1999 – https://www.amazon.com/Terrible-Hours-Greatest-Submarine-History/dp/0060194804/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 12:30 am

        That’s right, the “Squalus”. Thanks.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 8, 2016, 12:44 am

        I was at the community pool today, here in Central Israel. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/occupation-activists-criticisms/#comment-850225

        RE: “I was at the community pool today, here in Central
        Israel.”
        ~ Jackdaw

        ■ PHOTO

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 12:53 am

        No, not the “Squalus”. This other one was earler.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 8, 2016, 12:59 am

        ONE MORE TRY (IGNORE THE ABOVE POST):

        RE: “I was at the community pool today, here in Central
        Israel.”
        ~ Jackdaw

        ■ PHOTO

      • Jackdaw
        August 10, 2016, 10:48 am

        @Mooser

        ‘ Yes, they may be pregnant, but that doesn’t tell you who the father is ‘

        You were never a suspect.

      • Mooser
        August 10, 2016, 12:25 pm

        “You were never a suspect.”

        As I am a Jewish man married 27 years, I would certainly hope not!

        I don’t even raise my eyes above a strange woman’s ankles. Especially if they are well-turned.

      • Mooser
        August 10, 2016, 12:32 pm

        “I was at the community pool today, here in Central Israel.”

        I’ve been reading that sentence for two days, and I still read it as “Central Islip”, every time.

        What does he mean by “Central Israel”? Oh, I see: “Central Israel. Focused around the dynamic city of Jerusalem, Israel’s capital and home to holy sites for the world’s three major monotheistic religions” Ho-kay!

      • Mooser
        August 10, 2016, 12:39 pm

        “You were never a suspect.”

        Yup, you are right. I really can’t see myself making mamzers for Zionism.
        Besides, 200 million of us is enough to get the job done.

      • RoHa
        August 11, 2016, 12:27 am

        “Focused around the dynamic city of Jerusalem”

        Dynamically driving Palestinians out of their homes?

        “Israel’s capital”
        ? Tel Aviv?

        “and home to holy sites for the world’s three major monotheistic religions”

        But there are only two major monotheistic religions. They are Christianity and Islam. Using standard figures, Christianity has about 2,100,000,000 followers (around 33% of humanity) and Islam has something like 1,500,000,000 (21.5%). No other monotheistic religion comes close to those numbers. All the other monotheisms are minor religions.

        The third biggest is Sikhism, with a bit more than 27,000,000 (close to 4%, if you do a bit of imaginative rounding up ) but there are no Sikh holy sites in Jerusalem.

    • inbound39
      August 6, 2016, 4:56 pm

      That’s right Jackdaw…you keep looking at your simplistic view of things as you are without taking your gaze off yourself and thinking maybe you do have some faults that need addressing. The fact is a wake up call of large proportions is heading for Israel and whilst it may or may not survive it hopefully will never,ever be the same again. The Germans and Japanese learnt….so will Zionist Israelis. The World rejects Supremacists with quite a thump once the covers are fully drawn back to expose ALL their dirty little secrets. As it stands you won’t find many people willing to lend Israeli’s a helping hand at the moment.

      • Jackdaw
        August 7, 2016, 2:14 am

        The Japanese were only felled by atomic bombs dropped on their cities and the Germans were felled by the equally evil Soviets.

        Whose the person with the simplistic views? Not me.

      • gamal
        August 7, 2016, 9:01 am

        “felled by atomic bombs”

        “the Germans were felled by the equally evil Soviets.”

        “Whose the person with the simplistic views?”

        its a trick question right?

    • Mooser
      August 6, 2016, 5:56 pm

      “Everyone I saw looked happy, hopeful and unconcerned. A day of relaxation.”

      Did anybody look “Arab”?

      • gamal
        August 7, 2016, 8:49 am

        “Did anybody look “Arab”?”

        that is why you are the man, now that i have changed am able to breathe again and my nasal passages are coffee free,

        check this out, looking Pakistani and reading, she is a psychotherapist so this possibly be anti-semitic as well, but from Leeds so perhaps not, northern people are not really English, real Englishness happens in the home counties, as everyone knows, i am from Surrey, my English is pure and intense. next time i fly i am taking that excellent airport reading al-set mariam’s “call to global Islamic insurrection” i may get an upgrade.

        https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/aug/04/british-woman-held-after-being-seen-reading-book-about-syria-on-plane

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 2:17 pm

        ” i am from Surrey, my English is pure and intense.”

        Me too.
        You can tell, because I’ve got just a fringe on the top.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 7, 2016, 3:44 pm

        OKLAHOMA ~ “The Surrey With The Fringe On Top”

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 5:50 pm

        What Curly does at about :54 doesn’t ring true. Laurie would never allow herself to be grasped and led by the upper arm. Many a new day will dawn, many a red sun will set, many a blue moon will shine before she do!

        Maybe she is just humoring him till Aunt Eller gets back with the 12 gauge,(he has got a gun!) and the wedding can start.

        “Watch that fringe and see how it flutters”

        Yup, that’s me driving with the window open.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 7, 2016, 11:26 pm

        RE: “Yup, that’s me driving with the window open.” ~ Mooser

        MY RETORT: Yuck, gag me with a spoon! I absolutely refuse to breathe any air that has not been subjected to HEPA (High-Efficiency Particulate Arrestance) filtration or better!

        My will specifies that I am to be cremated only if it can be done without the use of any nonrenewable energy, especially hyrocarbons (or energy derived therefrom). Ideally, I would like my body to be cremated in a solar oven, or by dropping it into the lava flow from an erupting volcano.

        If it is not possible for my body to be cremated in the manner prescribed by me, I am directing that my body be placed in a hermetically sealed vault equipped with perpetual HEPA filtation powered by solar cells (and rechargeable batteries) with any excess electricity being sold to Georgia Power. All of this is very important to me.

        After all, you only die once!

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 12:25 am

        “After all, you only die once!”

        My doctor said it’ll spontaneous combustion. Says I’m a prime candidate for it.

        Somebody should make a horse-drawn conveyance with an icebox on the roof.

      • JLewisDickerson
        August 8, 2016, 12:37 am

        RE: “What Curly does at about :54 doesn’t ring true. Laurie would never allow herself to be grasped and led by the upper arm” ~ Mooser

        ALSO: Curly wears his hat way back on his head more like a cowgirl than a cowboy, not that there’s anything wrong with that (or the silk surrey top, but the fringe might raise a few eyebrows at the local honky-tonk). You go, Curly!

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 1:05 am
    • Marnie
      August 6, 2016, 11:55 pm

      While you were in the pool,

      “Israeli mayor: No Arabs in our pools because their ‘hygiene culture is not like ours’ FeaturesIsrael/Palestine Kate on August 5, 2016 Last week the head of the Lower Galilee Regional Council, Moti Dotan, said he didn’t want Arab citizens of Israel using community swimming pools because they have a different “hygiene culture” that is “not like ours.” A Haaretz editorial says Dotan isn’t a racist outlier, but a reflection of the Israeli mainstream: “Dotan’s statement is fed by a leadership that has made the exclusion and isolation of this country’s Arab citizens the backbone of Israeli patriotism.”

    • Marnie
      August 7, 2016, 12:06 am

      @Jackdaw

      I was at the community pool today, here in Central Israel. Lots of young parents playing with their kids. Quite a few pregnant women. Everyone I saw looked happy, hopeful and unconcerned. A day of relaxation. Tomorrow, it’s off to work, and a better future. Israel will survive BDS and BLM and JVP. Israel will survive without the USA. The Arab world is crumbling around her, and all the King’s men can’t put that back together. ”

      Everyone looked happy, hopeful and unconcerned – well, looks are deceiving. Trying to paint a normal picture of a very abnormal place isn’t working. You claim the zionist enterprise will survive BDS, blah, blah, blah, but at what cost Jackdaw? Will it survive as it is now, a virulently racist, violent society that takes shabbat off to pretend it’s a normal place and we all just chill at the pool after a week of lawn mowing, hedging, pruning, etc. So-called israel may survive BDS, blah, blah, blah, but its the rot from within that will ultimately finish it. So please keep your passport updated and handy for that eventual get outta Dodge you’ll be facing when Jews start the cull amongst themselves in earnest. Israel will survive without the united states – that’s been said for years but you keep cashing those checks!

      Israeli mayor: No Arabs in our pools because their ‘hygiene culture is not like ours’
      Kate on August 5, 2016 13 Comments
      – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/israeli-hygiene-culture/#sthash.1l8mHJo1.dpuf

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 10:59 am

        “It does not have the defenses.”

        Doesn’t really matter, if you’ve got thepopulation, and land mass. God forbid anything like this could happen, but Israel could easily sustain several million casualties, move the population to the interior, and punch back.

        And remember, the vast majority of Zionists in Israel have no place else to go. They’ve got to stand and defend. It’s not like they could hop a flight and get out of there.

      • Mr.T
        August 10, 2016, 12:21 pm

        “Israel is a democracy…”

        Nope. Half of the people subject to its rule are disenfranchised and 20% of the remaining are subject to the worst kinds of Jim Crow oppression. That’s not democracy, that’s Apartheid. You insult the notion of democracy by claiming that JSIL is a democracy.

        “…that wants nothing to do with her neighbors.”

        Except when it wishes to commit unprovoked and offensive acts of war against them, which it has repeatedly done against every single neighboring state.

    • Froggy
      August 7, 2016, 3:13 pm

      jackdaw :: “Israel will survive BDS and BLM and JVP. Israel will survive without the USA.

      The Arab world is crumbling around her, and all the King’s men can’t put that back together.

      If Israel must mow the lawn in Gaza or take some lumps in a war with Hezbollah, well, there’s always the morning after.

      You are praising a new Thousand Year Reich.

      As for you pretty pool scene, there’s nothing new about that either.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt2dxGqtTmQ

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvr0qsdkhA0

      • Marnie
        August 7, 2016, 11:58 pm

        ‘Spot on’ Froggy –

      • inbound39
        August 8, 2016, 7:57 am

        Jackdaw does project a superiority complex. He suffers the delusion that Israel is invincible. Hezbollah has tens of thousands of missiles aimed at Israel. Iran has hundreds of thousands. He forgets that Generals in the IDF have said Israel could not withstand a saturation attack of missiles. It does not have the defenses. One stray missile on Dimona and Israel is glass.

      • eljay
        August 8, 2016, 8:56 am

        || inbound39: Jackdaw does project a superiority complex. He suffers the delusion that Israel is invincible. … ||

        Zio-supremacists love to brag that their “Jewish State” will last a Thousand Years. Well, that’s the boast you’ll hear whenever they’re not busy wailing that the “Jewish State” is perpetually on the verge of being wiped off the map and pushed into the sea.

      • yonah fredman
        August 8, 2016, 1:22 pm

        eljay-the thousand year brag, link to it? or drop it, please.

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 2:43 pm

        “eljay-the thousand year brag, link to it? or drop it, please.”

        Why “Yonah”? You think it’ll be a lot less? So do I.
        How many years you think they’ve got left to run this Zionism fraud?
        But you are wise not to commit yourself to the big mil.

        Oh, and BTW,”Yonah”, he doesn’t have to “drop it” if he doesn’t feel like it. So why make a fool of yourself demanding it?

        Man, I cannot figure you guys at all.

      • eljay
        August 8, 2016, 3:07 pm

        || yonah fredman: eljay-the thousand year brag, link to it? or drop it, please. ||

        Drop it yourself. Here are just a few examples of the Zio-supremacist boast:

        Mikhael: Israel is here to stay as a Jewish state long after we are all ground to dust.

        NormanF: Its safe to say Israel will outlive [the Arabs] and the land will remain Jewish forever …

        MaxNarr: … 1,000 years is not forever, the Jewish people waited a lot longer than that to return to Israel. Maybe you should up it to 10,000.

        MaxNarr: … “West Bank” is a very recent and made up nomenclature, it’s been Judea and Samaria for thousands of years and this it will remain.

        Efraim Halevy: … The total of all our capabilities, both defensive and offensive, are such that we can be sure and assured, that the existence of Israel is assured for the next 1000 years….

      • Jackdaw
        August 10, 2016, 10:51 am

        @Froggy

        How’s it going with that Syrian refugee you said you were sponsoring?

        BTW. Germany was a dictatorship that invaded her neighbors in wars of conquest.

        Israel is a democracy that wants nothing to do with her neighbors.

      • Annie Robbins
        August 10, 2016, 11:55 am

        Israel…. wants nothing to do with her neighbors.

        they’ll take the land and water as their own tho.

      • eljay
        August 10, 2016, 12:55 pm

        || Jackdaw: … Israel is a democracy that wants nothing to do with her neighbors. ||

        Where “democracy” = oppressive, colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist state.

        || … that wants nothing to do with her neighbors. ||

        The rapist, too, wants nothing to do with his neighbours. The acts of injustice and immorality that take place in his basement are none of their business…

    • JLewisDickerson
      August 7, 2016, 3:39 pm

      RE: “The Arab world is crumbling around her (i.e. Israel)” ~ Jackdaw

      MY COMMENT: The Arab world is crumbling with a lot of help from the U.S. and Israel! Remember George W. Bush’s totally excellent invasion of Iraq? Not to mention Hillary’s bombing Libya to hell.
      Also, Israel created Hezbollah with its 1982 invasion of Lebanon, and then gave them a big boost with its re-invasion of Lebanon in 2006.

      ALSO SEE: “How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas”, By Andrew Higgins, The Wall Street Journal, 01/24/09

      [EXCERPT] Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.
      “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.
      Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. . .
      . . . When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ’80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.
      “When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,” says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early ’90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. “But at the time nobody thought about the possible results.” . . .

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

    • Talkback
      August 7, 2016, 5:43 pm

      Jackdaw:. ‘Israel will survive BDS and BLM and JVP. Israel will survive without the USA.’

      Sure. South Africa survived Apartheid, too.

      • Kay24
        August 8, 2016, 7:14 am

        What chutzpah from these moochers. When there was the possibility of Congress cutting back many welfare programs, Israel sent hordes of agents to beg/lobby them to NOT stop the aid package from flowing to zio land, wanting to be first in line before the American people. and Israel also depends on the US to shield it from UN censure, whenever it behaves like a rogue nation breaking international laws. They could not have come this far without the US, but their arrogance gets in the way of acknowledging this.

      • Jackdaw
        August 10, 2016, 10:52 am

        Indeed it did.

      • Mooser
        August 13, 2016, 3:37 pm

        What Israel, more than almost anything else, cannot survive is its own success!

        So let’s say Israel gets the job done. Won’t it be fun to go through the 21st Century as “The Religion Which Successfully Wiped Out the Palestinians?”
        That’s the kind of thing which will command respect and admiration for Jews throughout the world, for decades to come.

    • JLewisDickerson
      August 7, 2016, 5:56 pm

      RE: “If Israel must mow the lawn in Gaza or take some lumps in a war with Hezbollah, well, there’s always the morning after.” ~ Jackass . . . Oops, my Freudian slip is showing; I meant Jackdaw, of course.

      MY COMMENT: Fortunately, some folks ask a little more of God than that there just be a ‘morning after’.*

      * VIDEO: I Only Ask Of God (Video Official) – Outlandish “Con Letra”

      “I Only Ask Of God”

      I only ask of God
      He won’t let me be indifferent to the suffering
      That the very dried up death doesn’t find me
      Empty and without having given my everything

      I only ask of God
      He won’t let me be indifferent to the wars
      It is a big monster which treads hard
      On the poor innocence of people
      It is a big monster which treads hard
      On the poor innocence of people . . .

      ENTIRE LYRICS – http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/outlandish/ionlyaskofgod.html

      Outlandish
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      [EXCERPT] Outlandish is a hip-hop music group based in Denmark. Formed in 1997, it consists of Isam Bachiri (born in Denmark and of Moroccan background), Waqas Ali Qadri (born in Denmark and of Pakistani background), and Lenny Martinez (born in Honduras and of Cuban and Honduran descent). All three members are religious, with Isam and Waqas being Muslims and Lenny being Catholic. . .

      SOURCE – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlandish

    • biggerjake
      August 7, 2016, 7:25 pm

      “If Israel must mow the lawn in Gaza or take some lumps in a war with Hezbollah, well, there’s always the morning after. ”

      What kind of a lowlife would say something like that?

      Israel can go ahead and kill 2000 innocent Palestinians including 500 children and …oh, well just another day in the racist apartheid state.

      That just goes to show how far you Zionists have sunk…. You have lost your humanity and all regard for the lives of others. You have become animals…the worst kind…the kind that preys on the young and the weak.

      May you die a miserable death and burn in hell forever…..

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 9:42 pm

        “What kind of a lowlife would say something like that?”

        A man who knows the power of 200 million Jews, (80 million in Israel) can make their own rules!
        Oh, shoot, I forgot about that damned comment again! Screw it, the guy must be wrong, there must be 200 million, or very little makes sense.

      • Mr.T
        August 8, 2016, 10:56 am

        “What kind of a lowlife would say something like that?”

        The Jewish equivalent of a Klansman, which is becoming a greater and greater % of the Israeli population.

    • oldgeezer
      August 7, 2016, 8:34 pm

      @jackdaw

      That is great news jack. Now tell me of all the existential threats that force you oppress other peoples and build a racist state.

      Enjoy your moments. The vile racism in Israel can’t withstand a humanity in which every life has equal value.

  10. inbound39
    August 6, 2016, 4:58 pm

    And just one more thought Jackdaw….maybe you need to look at mowing your own lawn before your neighbours mow it for you.

    • Jackdaw
      August 7, 2016, 2:16 am

      I just fired my Arab gardener after he vandalized the sprinkler system.
      He was well paid too. Go figure.

      • Marnie
        August 7, 2016, 10:59 am

        I think you’ve sealed your fate in the karma department with all of your superior race rhetoric on this thread alone.

      • Mooser
        August 7, 2016, 1:29 pm

        “I just fired my Arab gardener after he vandalized the sprinkler system.”

        “All I’ve done is slipped a contemporary snapshot of Israel into the Mondoweiss echo chamber.”

        And it’s echoing nicely, thank you.

      • Talkback
        August 7, 2016, 5:39 pm

        @Jackdaw

        Even your jokes sound like antiarab modifications of antisemitic Nazi rhetorics.

      • mcohen.
        August 7, 2016, 7:05 pm

        The Arab gardener can be a useful addition to the household along with the Rhodesian cook boy.In my day one had to be careful about what one said as word would get back to the natives and difficulties could arise.however “certain activists” have been put on notice by the authorities.
        Times they are a changing

        Hope your annie sprinkler recovers

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 12:45 am

        “The Arab gardener…/…sprinkler recovers”

        My, what a nasty little git you are “mcohen”. One of the world’s premier asses.

      • Jackdaw
        August 8, 2016, 3:19 am

        There is a lot of home construction going on in my neighborhood. When a dwelling is 3/4 completed, the homeowner is approached by ‘The Bedouin’ who offers the homeowner ‘protection’ from overnight vandalism. Most homeowners pay the $700 dollars.

        Life in Israel.

      • inbound39
        August 8, 2016, 8:03 am

        Silly thing to do Jackie boy……Look at all the Jaffa oranges the Arabs grew. Then you Zionists came along and relieved them of the oranges and sold them as their own. Problem is horticulturally the orange trees show genetic links to those trees found in Spain, cuttings of which were sent centuries ago to Palestinians as a gift from Spain.

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 10:39 am

        “‘The Bedouin’ who offers the homeowner ‘protection’ from overnight vandalism. Most homeowners pay the $700 dollars.”

        “Jackdaw” with 80 million Jews in Israel backed by another 120 million in the rest of the world, you shouldn’t have to put up with crap like that.
        You let that Bedouin know how many Jews there are, and they will get the message.

      • Mr.T
        August 8, 2016, 10:58 am

        “There is a lot of home construction going on in my neighborhood. When a dwelling is 3/4 completed, the homeowner is approached by ‘The Bedouin’ who offers the homeowner ‘protection’ from overnight vandalism. Most homeowners pay the $700 dollars. Life in “Israel.” ”

        LOL. Poor home”owner”. Can’t enjoy his stolen piece of Palestine in peace.

      • Marnie
        August 8, 2016, 12:08 pm

        Life in israel? You don’t live in israel Jack.

        I thought you’d hit rock bottom with the ‘firing the Arab’ bit, but you’re just getting started aren’t you? That tells me you’re scared [email protected]$%less of Palestinians because of your theft of their land, for starters.

        God only knows what else you’ve done, or likely watched someone else do to protect you and the other thieves.

      • Mooser
        August 8, 2016, 2:47 pm

        “When a dwelling is 3/4 completed, the homeowner is approached by ‘The Bedouin’ who offers the homeowner ‘protection’ from overnight vandalism. Most homeowners pay the $700 dollars.”

        ROTFLMSJAO! Of course, the poor Bedouins have to split that with the Israeli security forces, or the whole thing won’t work.
        So they do. Still, everybody makes out, except the (ROTFL)”homeowner”.

      • Jackdaw
        August 8, 2016, 2:57 pm

        I inadvertently rattled your cage, and your reaction is, well, like a bunch of psychos.
        Psychos.

        God knows what you’ve done to your lives.

      • Jackdaw
        August 8, 2016, 5:09 pm

        @Mr t

        “LOL. Poor home”owner”. Can’t enjoy his stolen piece of Palestine in peace.”

        LOL. I rent.

        Tell us Mr t, where do you live, that isn’t stolen?
        *no answer as Mr t heads for the high grass*

        We know Mooser lives in Seattle on land stolen from Native Americans. What about you.

      • talknic
        August 9, 2016, 6:49 am

        @ Jackdaw

        “LOL. I rent”

        LOL You rent ‘real estate’! Territory on the other hand belongs to all its legitimate inhabitants whether they won real estate, rent real estate or live under a bridge. It does not belong to an Occupying Power such as Israel

        “We know Mooser lives in Seattle on land stolen from Native Americans”

        So does AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America.

        BTW the US, UK, Australia, stopped colonizing decades ago. Israel continues TODAY to colonize non-Israeli territories and dispossess the legal inhabitants of the territories Israel covets

      • Marnie
        August 9, 2016, 7:03 am

        “I inadvertently rattled your cage, and your reaction is, well, like a bunch of psychos.”

        Thank you for making it crystal clear that your only purpose for trolling this site is to distract and disgust. I don’t live in a cage and am pretty sure the only people on these pages that actually do live in cages are yourself, the jon’s, and the other irregular regulars. You are definitely imprisoned by your ideology.

        What I’ve ‘done to my life’, I’ve done only to my life.

      • Mooser
        August 9, 2016, 12:46 pm

        “We know Mooser lives in Seattle on land stolen from Native Americans”

        Actually, out where I live, I’m mostly betwixt and between all kinds of Native American land. Starts about two block from my house.

      • Mr.T
        August 9, 2016, 4:57 pm

        “Tell us Mr t, where do you live, that isn’t stolen?”

        I live in the land of my forefathers, who were the first humans on this continent.

        “*no answer as Mr t heads for the high grass*”

        No, I’m not one of the IOF cowards.

      • Mooser
        August 9, 2016, 8:47 pm

        “God knows what you’ve done to your lives.”

        ROTFLMSJAO!! I’m allright, “Jack”. I don’t feel compelled to sit at a computer and give “hits”, “UPVs”, and “sessions” to a website I despise.
        And give everybody an awful picture of the Zionist character on top of it.
        But please, don’t stop. Post more, lot’s more. I want you to have a happy, fulfilled life.

      • Jackdaw
        August 10, 2016, 1:25 am

        @ Mr t

        If you won’t tell us where you live, and whether it’s on stolen land, you are an intellectual coward.

      • Mr.T
        August 10, 2016, 10:45 am

        “If you won’t tell us where you live, and whether it’s on stolen land, you are an intellectual coward.”

        Jackdaw, forgive me for thinking you might be smart enough to understand from the statement I gave. I’ll explain at length so that someone with your limited mental gifts might understand:
        I live in North America. And it is stolen land, as it was stolen (by people who likely look like you and, at the very least, look a lot like the European Zionist thieves who stole Palestine) from my ancestors, who were the first humans on this continent. In my country, I have full political rights and legal equality, which is something which will never happen in Palestine until the evil ideology of Zionism joins its brothers — Nazism, Imperialism and racism — in the dustbin of history.

      • inbound39
        August 10, 2016, 8:42 pm

        You stated that America is a colonized land. That is true, Jackdaw, a defence Zionists use all the time ignoring the fact that during that era that America was colonized the action was LEGAL under International standards and laws of that era. What Zionists ignore conveniently is the fact Jewish European immigrants, many illegal immigrants colonized Palestine when under International Law during that era colonization was ILLEGAL. There, Jackdaw, is the reality you ignore conveniently to pervert and justify Israel’s criminal actions.

      • RoHa
        August 11, 2016, 1:02 am

        I think that is a good point, inbound.

        Of course, the colonization process in America was immoral, but Zionists have no understanding of morality. They do constantly claim legality for the creation of Israel, as though that were all that is required. If you can show it was illegal, then they will lose that claim.

        Not that Zionists pay any more attention to legality than to morality if it doesn’t suit them.

      • Jackdaw
        August 11, 2016, 1:33 am

        @ Mr. t

        If you are a full-blooded native american (I’ve met only one in my life), than I pose this question to you. Who is the indigenous people, or tribe, of Eretz Yisroel? Who can trace their roots to that area and can show that no SURVIVING PEOPLES OR TRIBE lived there before them?

        *high grass is thataway*

      • Jackdaw
        August 11, 2016, 1:51 am

        @inbound

        Illegal? Really.
        Didn’t the League of Nations invite world Jewry to return to Eretz Yisroel and ‘close settle’ the land and establish their own government?
        Didn’t some members of HMG actually promise the Jews a State of their own?
        ‘In a private conversation at Balfour’s House in the summer of 1921, both Balfour and the Prime Minister contradicted him [Churchill] and told Churchill that “by the Declaration they always meant an eventual Jewish State.” Martin Gilbert, Winston S. Churchill: Companion Volume, Vol. 4, Part3: April 1921-November 1922, p. 1559.(Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1975

      • YoniFalic
        August 11, 2016, 6:55 am

        Only a moron, an ignoramus, or a liar claims post-antiquity Judaic communities descend from Greco-Roman Judeans, who are ancestors of modern Palestinians.

        By the second century (and often earlier) Greek and Roman historians routinely distinguished between Judean and Judaic populations which comprised most of the people practicing Judaic religion by the time of Jesus and probably by much earlier. Judaic populations descended from converts and had no ancestral link to Palestine. Modern Jews of any definition descend solely from communities descended from converts.

        Below is Patrick Geary’s conclusion in Myth of Nations, pp. 118-119. It applies at least as strongly to so-called modern “ethnic Jews”. People like Jackdaw almost certainly count as genocide-inciters under the International Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

        Under customary international antigenocide law as expressed in the Nuremberg Tribunal such people can be hanged even if they have never personally harmed anyone and are not in a command role over armed forces that carry out genocidal acts. It is important to be clear about the capital nature of the crimes of Zionists and their supporters.

        Conclusion: Old Names and New Peoples

        The fourth and fifth centuries saw fundamental changes in the European social and political fabric. In the process, great confederations like those of the Goths disappeared, to re-emerge transformed into kingdoms in Italy and Gaul. Others like the Hunnic Empire or the Vandal kingdom seemed to spring from nowhere, only to vanish utterly in a few generations. Still other, previously obscure peoples, such as the Angles and the Franks, emerged to create enduring polities. But whether enduring or ephemeral, the social realities behind these ethnic names underwent rapid and radical transformation in every case. Whatever a Goth was in the third-century kingdom of Cniva, the reality of a Goth in sixth century Spain was far different, in language, religion, political and social organization, even ancestry. The Franks defeated by Emperor Julian in the fourth century and those who followed Clovis into battle in the sixth century were likewise almost immeasurably distant from each other in every possible way. The same was true of the Romans, whose transformation was no less dramatic in the same period. With the constant shifting of allegiances, intermarriages, transformations, and appropriations, it appears that all that remained constant were names, and these were vessels that could hold different contents at different times.

        Names were renewable resources; they held the potential to convince people of continuity, even if radical discontinuity was the lived reality. Old names, whether of ancient peoples like the Goths or Suebi or of illustrious families such as the Amals, could be reclaimed, applied to new circumstances, and used as rallying cries for new powers. Alternatively, names of small, relatively unimportant groups might be expanded with enormous power. The Franks were the most significant of these. In the third century, they were among the least significant of Rome’s enemies. By the sixth century, the name Frank had eclipsed not only that of Goth, Vandal, and Sueb, but of Roman itself in much of the West.

      • talknic
        August 11, 2016, 10:09 am

        @ Jackdaw

        “Who is the indigenous people, or tribe, of Eretz Yisroel? Who can trace their roots to that area and can show that no SURVIVING PEOPLES OR TRIBE lived there before them?”

        Completely irrelevant to Israel’s proclaimed and Internationally recognized borders and Israel’s subsequent illegal activities in territories“outside the State of Israel”

        Didn’t the League of Nations invite world Jewry to return to Eretz Yisroel and ‘close settle’ the land and establish their own government?”

        As citizens of the Nation State of Palestine … yes, according to Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for Palestine http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp#art7

        However, when Israel proclaimed its borders effective 1 minute after the Mandate expired midnight May 14th 1948, the legal extent of the Jewish State was limited to within those proclaimed and Internationally recognized borders http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf

        “Didn’t some members of HMG actually promise the Jews a State of their own?”

        So what? HMG Government DIDN’T! British White paper 1922
        Re-iterated in the British White paper 1939

        “‘In a private conversation at Balfour’s House in the summer of 1921, both Balfour and the Prime Minister contradicted him [Churchill] and told Churchill that “by the Declaration they always meant an eventual Jewish State.” Martin Gilbert, Winston S. Churchill: Companion Volume, Vol. 4, Part3: April 1921-November 1922, p. 1559.(Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1975”

        Interesting piece of history, but so what? Israel proclaimed and was recognized ” as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″ No more, no less.

        What Churchill might have said in private in 1922 became irrelevant the moment Israel proclaimed its borders

      • Mr.T
        August 11, 2016, 11:35 am

        “Illegal? Really. Didn’t the League of Nations invite world Jewry to return to Eretz Yisroel and ‘close settle’ the land and establish their own government?”

        No, because there is no such place by that name.

        Further, the League of Nations did no such thing with regard to the land of Palestine, nor did they have any legal basis for doing so, as the land was the property of the Palestinian people, not “world Jewry”

        “Didn’t some members of HMG actually promise the Jews a State of their own?”

        BFD. They had no rights over that land, any more than a bank robbers has the right to promise someone else ownership of the stolen loot.

      • echinococcus
        August 11, 2016, 1:44 pm

        Interesting piece of history, but so what? Israel proclaimed and was recognized ” as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″ No more, no less.

        To use your words, “So what?” They were illegally recognizing and approving a totally illegitimate act of conquest.

      • Jackdaw
        August 12, 2016, 1:07 pm

        @talknic
        @Mr t

        I’m aware of the Epstein letter, but not entirely sure what the term ‘frontiers’ means.

        https://books.google.co.il/books?id=QAd7F6T_Ys4C&pg=PA588&lpg=PA588&dq=frontier+diplomatique&source=bl&ots=fTD9cU7kdt&sig=3j-5toE9aGBXW2MTAZDHde_i8hw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpy-bPq7zOAhXJLhoKHWElBrgQ6AEISzAJ#v=onepage&q=frontier%20diplomatique&f=false

        That said. Jews were given the right to closely settle in all of Mandatory Palestine. They could have settled in Nablus, and the did settle in Gush Etzion.
        What extinguished that right to settle anywhere in Palestine? Epstein’s letter? The illegal intervention and occupation of the West Bank by the Kingdom of Jordan?
        Who nullified that right, and when?

      • YoniFalic
        August 12, 2016, 3:35 pm

        The international antigenocide legal regime supersedes any alleged rights claimed by white Euro genocidal racists to settle in Palestine. The State of Israel has in fact signed and ratified the International Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

        There is only one conclusion. For the international antigenocide regime to have any meaning. ME and international Zionist leaders must be seized for trials, and the State of Israel must be liquidated. The genocidal invader conglomeration must be relocated.

        All Zionist assets must be assigned to a trustee to hold in order to pay penalties and compensation for torts.

      • Mr.T
        August 12, 2016, 3:39 pm

        “Jews were given the right to closely settle in all of Mandatory Palestine.”

        False. There was no such supposed “right” because the only people who could exercise the right to live in Palestine were the Palestinians. The Zionists who claim this right are akin to a fence attempting to claim legal title from a thief.

      • talknic
        August 13, 2016, 4:52 am

        @ Jackdaw August 12, 2016, 1:07 pm

        “I’m aware of the Epstein letter, but not entirely sure what the term ‘frontiers’ means”

        Uh huh. The Israeli Government (Eliahu Epstein was only the delivery boy) seemed to be quite sure in their replies to the UNSC May 22nd 1948. http://wp.me/pDB7k-Xk

        BTW Your link tells us nothing

        “Jews were given the right to closely settle in all of Mandatory Palestine.”

        As citizens of the Nation State of Palestine, per Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for Palestine.

        Ever read Article 7 of the Mandate? http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp#art7 …. makes interesting reading … try not to vomit to much

        “They could have settled in Nablus, and the did settle in Gush Etzion”

        As citizens of the Nation State of Palestine, per Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for Palestine.

        “What extinguished that right to settle anywhere in Palestine? “

        When they became ISRAELI citizens. Be they Jewish or non-Jewish, Israeli citizens are expressly prohibited from settling in non-Israeli territories held under Israeli military occupation

        “The illegal intervention and occupation of the West Bank by the Kingdom of Jordan?”

        “illegal intervention” under what ruling by which body?

        Transjordan and the other Arab States had a right to intervene in non-Israeli territories being invaded by Israel. There is no UNSC condemnation of the Arab State’s Declaration of the Invasion of “Palestine”

        Illegal occupation? Strange. Israel agreed under the Israel Jordan Armistice AGREEMENT. If the Jordanian occupation was illegal, so was the Israeli occupation.

        The West Bank as it is now officially named, was legally annexed at the request of representatives of the majority of the legitimate citizens of the territory. Jordan’s annexation was as a trustee only by demand of the other Arab states (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950) in keeping with the UN Charter Chapt XI

        “Who nullified that right, and when?”

        Israel, when it became a state with defined boundaries. Now Israeli citizens, including Jews, are expressly prohibited from from settling in non-Israeli territories held under Israeli military occupation.

        Try something else pal. Nothing you’ve said or will ever say can justify Israel’s illegal activities outside its proclaimed and Internationally recognized boundaries.

        Of course you will ignore what I’ve set out above, however you’ve afforded yet another opportunity to inform honest readers of some simple facts that show your rhetoric to be typical Zionist bullsh*t!

      • Jackdaw
        August 13, 2016, 1:54 pm

        @talknic

        “Ever read Article 7 of the Mandate? link to avalon.law.yale.edu …. makes interesting reading … try not to vomit to much

        What Mandate Article says that Arabs coming to Palestine are to be granted Palestinian citizenship?

        “They could have settled in Nablus, and the did settle in Gush Etzion”

        ‘As citizens of the Nation State of Palestine, per Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for Palestine.’

        Okay.

        “When they became ISRAELI citizens. Be they Jewish or non-Jewish, Israeli citizens are expressly prohibited from settling in non-Israeli territories held under Israeli military occupation.”

        You mean an Arab, granted Israeli citizenship was not free to move and settle in Nablus?
        Interesting. You mean a Jew or Arab could not settle in the West Bank of his own volition? The State of Israel was required to arrest and send him back over the Green Line?
        Interesting. Prove it.

      • talknic
        August 13, 2016, 10:16 pm

        @ Jackdaw August 13, 2016, 1:54 pm Does Ziodrivel 101

        “What Mandate Article says that Arabs coming to Palestine are to be granted Palestinian citizenship?”

        Strange, the conversation was about Jews. Here is what I answered to

        Didn’t the League of Nations invite world Jewry to return to Eretz Yisroel and ‘close settle’ the land and establish their own government?” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/occupation-activists-criticisms/#comment-850097

        Typical of a moronic Zionist propagandist to change the subject to suit the muck they have to offer

        “You mean an Arab, granted Israeli citizenship was not free to move and settle in Nablus?”

        Nablus is not in Israel.

        “Interesting. You mean a Jew or Arab …”

        I meant what I wrote. Israelis are prohibited by International Law from settling in non Israeli territories under Israeli military occupation.

        “The State of Israel was required to arrest and send him back over the Green Line? Interesting. Prove it.”

        Again? Why? RU really that stupid?

      • RoHa
        August 13, 2016, 11:00 pm

        “What Mandate Article says that Arabs coming to Palestine are to be granted Palestinian citizenship?”

        Article 7 says (a) a nationality law shall be enacted, and (b) this law shall make it easy for Jews to get Palestinian nationality/citizenship.

        Nothing in the Mandate says that Arab immigrants shall or shall not be granted Palestinian nationality/citizenship. Aside from making it easy for Jews, there is no proposal for the content of the nationality law.

        (Oops! I suddenly remembered that you think nationality and citizenship are different. I’ll go back and put “citizenship” in.)

        But why do you ask? Are you suffering from an attack of Peters?

      • Jackdaw
        August 14, 2016, 2:15 am

        @talknic

        “Again? Why? RU really that stupid? ”

        RU really that desperate?

        The League of Nations agreed that Jews, exclusively, should be given the right to settle in Palestine as citizens of Palestine. The Zionists made it clear to the League that once Jews became the majority in Palestine, the, the Jews, would opt for a Jewish State.

        A State cannot transfer it’s citizens to an Occupied Territory. That would be illegal. That’s not what happened at Hebron’s Park Hotel back in 1968. Those individuals had acted on their own. The government did move the citizens to a nearby military base, also not illegal.

        As far as the meaning of ‘frontier’, a frontier can be a border line and a frontier can be a zone.

      • talknic
        August 25, 2016, 9:44 pm

        @ Jackdaw August 14, 2016, 2:15 am

        // @talknic

        “Again? Why? RU really that stupid? ” //

        “RU really that desperate?”

        No. You are though. Desperate and stupid beyond belief

        “The League of Nations agreed that Jews, exclusively, should be given the right to settle in Palestine as citizens of Palestine”

        Word search for “exclusively” Result – 0 / Word search for “exclusive” Result – 0 http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp

        Read the Mandate

        Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine
        ——
        ART. 2.

        The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion
        ——–
        ART. 5.

        The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power
        ———
        ART. 6.

        The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions … etc etc …

        British White Paper 1922: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/brwh1922.asp

        Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become “as Jewish as England is English.” His Majesty’s Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.’ In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims “the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development.”

        It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

        Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status.
        ——

        British White Paper 1939: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/brwh1939.asp It has been urged that the expression “a national home for the Jewish people” offered a prospect that Palestine might in due course become a Jewish State or Commonwealth. His Majesty’s Government do not wish to contest the view, which was expressed by the Royal Commission, that the Zionist leaders at the time of the issue of the Balfour Declaration recognised that an ultimate Jewish State was not precluded by the terms of the Declaration. But, with the Royal Commission, His Majesty’s Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. That Palestine was not to be converted into a Jewish State might be held to be implied in the passage from the Command Paper of 1922 which reads as follows

        “Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that `Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English.’ His Majesty’s Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated …. the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the (Balfour) Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded IN PALESTINE.”

        But this statement has not removed doubts, and His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.

        ” The Zionists made it clear to the League that once Jews became the majority in Palestine, the, the Jews, would opt for a Jewish State”

        Jews didn’t ever become a majority in Palestine.

        “A State cannot transfer it’s citizens to an Occupied Territory. That would be illegal. That’s not what happened at Hebron’s Park Hotel back in 1968. Those individuals had acted on their own.”

        Read the 1949 Armistice Agreement

        Article IV

        3. Rules and regulations of the armed forces of the Parties, which prohibit civilians from crossing the fighting lines or entering the area between the lines, shall remain in effect after the signing of this Agreement with application to the Armistice Demarcation Lines defined in articles V and VI. https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/UNISPAL.NSF/0/F03D55E48F77AB698525643B00608D34

        ” The government did move the citizens to a nearby military base, also not illegal”

        Very funny. Hiding behind civilians

        “As far as the meaning of ‘frontier’, a frontier can be a border line and a frontier can be a zone”

        Read the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT statement of the 22nd May 1948 in regards to territories “outside the State of Israel”

        Keep up the good work

      • eljay
        August 25, 2016, 9:54 pm

        || Jackdaw: … The Zionists made it clear to the League that once Jews became the majority in Palestine … ||

        In the Palestine you Zio-supremacists insist never existed. Interesting.

      • talknic
        August 25, 2016, 10:44 pm

        “In the Palestine you Zio-supremacists insist never existed. Interesting:”

        LOL. They always slip up in their own bullsh*te

  11. JLewisDickerson
    August 7, 2016, 3:00 pm

    RE: “JCRC did not reply to a request for comment for this article.” ~ Dizard

    MY SNARKCASM: I don’t think you guys appreciate what a “complex matter” it is for an organization with a “unique nature” like that of JCRC to reply to a request for comment. If only you had given them a little more time . . .

  12. Talkback
    August 7, 2016, 5:39 pm

    @Jackdaw

    Even your jokes sound like antiarab modifications of antisemitic Nazi rhetorics.

  13. oldgeezer
    August 7, 2016, 8:06 pm

    It is obvious that if there is a genocide being perpetrated then it is of a slow motion kind. It is equally obvious that some historical attempts of genocide were not. It is uneqiivocably a genocide nevertheless. It takes a black heart to deny this. While it is slow motion many leading Israeli voices, including GoI members have advocated a larger and more significant scale operation.

    Zionists are racists. Their ultimate aims are no different than groups which attempted faster genocides. Polls show that Israelis support such moves.

    Appeasement doesn’t work. BDS, with emphasis on the S, is urgently needed.

    • echinococcus
      August 8, 2016, 1:52 am

      Old Geezer,

      Just so.
      Someone, I don’t remember who, wrote that the reason Lemkin wrote the international characterization of genocide so that it could be officially so classified and internationally denounced **before** it was successful.

    • inbound39
      August 8, 2016, 8:08 am

      Wholeheartedly agree oldgeezer…….sanctions are sorely overdue for Israel and no government in the World can justifiably or rationally support or defend Israel any longer. America and UK governments are beginning to look ridiculous doing nothing.

  14. gingershot
    August 8, 2016, 12:05 pm

    BREAKING:

    First black lives matters and now Jill Stein use the A – word in open forums accessible to the American public

    Green Party presidential candidate Stein: End military aid to ‘apartheid’ Israel

    J post headline Monday August 8, 2016

    Canada’s Green Party votes to support Israel boycott

    Times of Israel headline Monday, August 8, 2016 July

  15. Kay24
    August 8, 2016, 1:01 pm

    For those who want to know exactly how to question Israel about the treatment of the Palestinian people, watch this video. It seems the US and the rest of the world cannot ask the tough questions, and it is a real joy to watch Richard Boyd of Ireland, ask the hard questions American leaders do not have the guts to do.
    At the end of the questioning Mr. Boyd says he thinks Israel should be expelled from there. The Israeli ambassador must have been taken aback at the accusations.
    Well done.

    • Marnie
      August 9, 2016, 7:07 am

      Thanks Kay24! I’ve watched a number of times now and my most favorite part is in the first minute or so when the right honorable Mr. Boyd tells the dishonorable israeli thug and his idiot partner in crime that he wants him out of his country. It was just priceless. It was flawless. I hope to see more of the same from every country that has an embassy of apartheid and colonialism in their midst. Kick the bastards out.

      • Kay24
        August 9, 2016, 9:45 am

        I watched many times too, it was almost a relief to hear someone (good for Ireland) ask the questions we are longing to hear. It was one hit after another, all facts, and to which the almost speechless ambassador for evil was unable to address. I would like more of the same too.

  16. Ossinev
    August 8, 2016, 2:35 pm

    @Kay24
    As you say a real joy to watch. The JSILi Ambassador ( aka Hasbara mouthpiece) response was entirely predictable and followed the well worn but increasingly threadbare script. I started to yawn and switched off listening to him after a few seconds. What fascinated me and kept me awake was the body language of the female supporting actress beside. During Boyd`s comments she was either laughing or trying to suppress a laugh – a true reflection of the JSILi condescending attitude to non – chosen people. During the Ambassador`s propaganda puke she appeared to have got her mirth under control. Instead she increasingly looked as if a toilet break was in order.

    • inbound39
      August 9, 2016, 4:46 am

      I would say Kay that Richard Boyd won that bout hands down and has won the right to face off in the championship bout against Netanyahu, That would be a joy to see. The Zionist facing Boyd in his reply could not even look him in the eye. Sure sign he didn’t believe what he was saying to Boyd. Class Videocap!

      • Kay24
        August 9, 2016, 9:50 am

        We could do with a few of Richard Boyds in the zio controlled US. A few leaders with guts and sense of doing the honest thing for long suffering people, would do this nation a world of good.
        NOT ONE American leader or media person, would DARE speak this way to any Israeli agent here.

    • Kay24
      August 9, 2016, 9:47 am

      Yes, she looked like she was smirking at times. It is that zio arrogance that always shows. They know they can get away with murder all the time, thanks to Uncle Sam’s protection and support.

      • inbound39
        August 9, 2016, 10:08 am

        That’s exactly it Kay……they think they can get away with anything whilst hiding behind America. In my past I have watched Americans take a lot. On the battlefield and on the street. Once they decide they have had enough they get pretty determined and in many ways their are the gradual signs that point is not too far off. Whether Trump or Clinton gets in…..neither realise the catalyst for change they are actually becoming. And it won’t be the change either of them were expecting. It will look and sound more like a revolution….thousands of Americans stamping their feet and raising their fists saying enough!

  17. Talkback
    August 9, 2016, 11:53 am

    The good thing about the accusation of genocide is that all the Jewish fake activists and gatekeepers will distance themselves.

    • mcohen.
      August 9, 2016, 4:08 pm

      talkback

      “jewish fake activists”

      you truly are am anti semitic [..].

      • Mooser
        August 9, 2016, 8:50 pm

        I’m with you, “mcohen”. We are never “fake”!
        We are always authentic. Other people fake, but not us.

      • RoHa
        August 9, 2016, 10:58 pm

        Even without the accent?

      • echinococcus
        August 10, 2016, 12:28 am

        It’s not indispensable to be Jewish in order to be a fake activist. Other religions are also admitted to be fake activists –among other disgusting activities.
        So you see, McCohen, this is entirely equal-opportunity. An opportunity is offered to fakes, of any religion, to stop participating in the commission of it.

  18. amigo
    August 9, 2016, 4:05 pm

    Kay , his correct name is , Richard Boyd Barret and yes he is not shy about putting it right in the zionists face.

    Here is some info on that cretin with the smirk on her face.She is the wife of the ambassador who left his post last year.

    “Israel’s embassy in Dublin has been in the headlines many times over the last few years, not only because of the tense relations between Jerusalem and Dublin, but also because of embarrassing provocations by Israel’s envoys at the mission, who try to think creatively when it comes to public relations (hasbara).

    On Monday, ahead of the Christmas holiday, the embassy posted an image of the Virgin Mary to its Facebook page, accompanied by the following caption:

    “A thought for Christmas… If Jesus and mother Mary were alive today, they would, as Jews without security, probably end up being lynched in Bethlehem by hostile Palestinians. Just a thought…….”

    “The person who leads this provocative line in the embassy in Dublin is not only Ambassador Boaz Modai, but also his wife, Nurit Tinari Modai, who serves as deputy head of mission.

    Tinari Modai made it into the headlines when she carried out a provocation during a Holocaust Rememberance Day ceremony in Dublin last year.

    A few months ago, Israel’s Channel 10 published an email that Tinari Modai sent to senior Foreign Ministry officials in which she claimed that Israelis living in Ireland who criticize Israeli policy in the West Bank do it partly because of their sexual orientation.

    Tinari Modai even suggested that the embassy should act against Israelis in Ireland who criticize Israel, targeting them personally by making sensitive information about them public.”

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/diplomania/israeli-embassy-in-ireland-s-latest-facebook-post-if-jesus-were-alive-he-d-be-lynched-by-palestinians.premium-1.485443

    • Kay24
      August 9, 2016, 5:32 pm

      Wow a couple from Hell. That filthy thought on FB simply shows what kind of people these are, always trying to cause trouble for the Palestinians, casting a bad light on them, so that the zionists can benefit from it in devious ways we may never know. Israel has this dubious reputation for placing low caliber human beings as their representatives, one reason I guess is because they know they are rabid enough to cause trouble, and act so dishonorably, and will say/do anything to keep the master plan going, attacking anyone who dares to speak out against the crimes of their fellow zionists. There is something about these two people that gives me the creeps.

      Richard Boyd Barret must be very unpopular in the zionist world.

      I hope he keeps speaking the truth and asking the right questions. I have no hope I’ll ever hear
      an American leader speak so boldly.

  19. oldgeezer
    August 9, 2016, 8:02 pm

    The occupation itself may not rise to the level as the zionists note.

    Their words are carefully selected though as the settlement objectives, means and intent certainly do rise to the level of genocide. The occupation is merely one of the tools in their arsenal.

  20. Gregkin
    August 10, 2016, 3:50 am

    Dear friends,

    I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People, a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support.

    Here’s some more information about this petition: U.S. aid to Israel should be tied to settlement freeze, progress in peace process, and respect for Palestinian rights.

    The Obama administration is reportedly close to providing Israel with up to $40 billion in funding over 10 years, making it the biggest U.S. military aid package ever given to any country. However, if American taxpayers are going to foot the bill for financing the Israeli military, which continues to occupy 2.7 million Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, then conditions must be put on the deal. The proposed military deal comes at a time when Israel’s oppressive and discriminatory settlement policies in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem continue unabated. The Obama administration should make it clear that there are strings attached to U.S. aid and that Israel’s failure to comply with a settlement freeze will have financial penalties.

    Will you add your name to mine? If this petition gets 99,999 signatures by September 09, 2016, the White House will review it and respond!

    You can view and sign the petition here:

    https://wh.gov/iFAE4

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