Ehud Barak says a Palestinian state would be ‘non-viable’

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Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak says it is urgent to establish a Palestinian state– but he assured an Israeli audience that that state will be “non-viable.”

Barak, a Labor leader who has challenged the current Prime Minister from the left, was speaking to the Herzliya conference, in remarks published yesterday. He said Israel’s future is in jeopardy because the world sees that Netanyahu is not sincere about a two-state solution. He went on:

No one in the world thinks that we are Switzerland here, but I’m telling you, with full responsibility, no one in the world understands how come the government of Israel sees in a Palestinian state which is demilitarized– almost completely not viable, surrounded by the Israeli forces– the strongest army in the world, almost a nuclear superpower, backed by America, including technologies that they didn’t even give to their own soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan– how can this non-viable state, which is surrounded, be an existential threat on Israel?… Existential threat on Israel? This sounds like either fabricated or visionary or completely crazy planning.

Barak came close to negotiating a peace deal with the Palestinians at Camp David in 2000 under the so-called Clinton Parameters; but even then Israel was unwilling to give up more than 93 percent of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and the talks fell through.

International mediators who have worked (endlessly, fruitlessly) for a Palestinian state have said that state must be “viable” — meaning it must be sustainable on its own economically and politically, and capable of granting real freedom and opportunity to its citizens.

But Ehud Barak’s vision of Israeli control over Palestine suggests clearly that the state would have no meaningful sovereignty.

“It is agreed by all of us that we are present in Judea and Samaria because it is our privilege. Not because of power. We have a historical, moral, natural right, as it says in the declaration of independence,” Barak said.

He said Israel must be a security state. Israel is still “a villa in the jungle,” facing threats from Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and ISIS. “Therefore we have to be with sword in hand and a finger on the revolver, and we have to defeat any threat.”

But Barak said that the extremists in Netanyahu’s government who have a “one state agenda” are the only existential threat to the Zionist enterprise.

One state from the Jordan to the sea will be one with an Arab majority and a civil war or an apartheid regime that deals with violence and threat of collapse.

By holding on to all of the territories, Israel was threatening the support of the United States and the world. “It’s not by chance that 90 percent of the high echelon officers in the army, in the police, in the Mossad” all call for a Palestinian state with a permanent border, he said. “Those people who planned the security of Israel, creating an iron wall, most of them were what their people call today leftists. Jabotinsky’s iron wall was created by the security forces.”

Ze’ev Jabotinsky was the rightwing Zionist who said in the 1930s that Arabs would never accept the existence of a Jewish state so Jews would have to create a majority-Jewish society and then surround it with an “iron wall” of security forces to maintain its existence. In a word, Sparta– as Hannah Arendt said at the time.

But Netanyahu has taken the country toward the precipice with a politics of fear and isolation, Barak said. “History will never forgive us if we don’t stop in time the new incarnation of Jewish blind zealousness and bigotry,” he said. “I call upon everyone. This is an hour of test and crisis before we going to get to fascism… or god forbid to apartheid.”

 

 

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  1. Mooser
    June 23, 2017, 11:24 am

    “It is agreed by all of us that we are present in Judea and Samaria because it is our privilege. Not because of power. We have a historical, moral, natural right, as it says in the declaration of independence,” Barak said.”

    “Not because of power” you bet. We will hold Palestine by “historical, moral, natural right”. That’s the way the world works.

    Jews sui generis!

  2. eljay
    June 23, 2017, 1:20 pm

    … “It is agreed by all of us that we are present in Judea and Samaria because it is our privilege. Not because of power. We have a historical, moral, natural right, as it says in the declaration of independence,” Barak said. …

    privilege: a right … granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor

    Mr. Barak is partially correct: Zionists and their oppressive, colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” construct are present in geographic Palestine because of a special right not enjoyed by others. But they are also there because of power.

    The religion-based identity of “Jewish” does not comprise an historical, moral or natural right to Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine.

  3. LHunter
    June 24, 2017, 10:56 am

    “History will never forgive us if we don’t stop in time the new incarnation of Jewish blind zealousness and bigotry,”

    Not new, perhaps more overt and unabashed. History will forgive once the Palestinians have, and even then likely only to the extent that the Germans have been forgiven. The road map is there already – instead of Shindler’s List we will be watching Birnbaum’s List. Deja Vu for the Zionists.

    “I call upon everyone. This is an hour of test and crisis before we going to get to fascism… or god forbid to apartheid.”

    I wish God took an active role in forbidding this – by my accounting she/he would be too late though – Israel is a fascist apartheid state. Perhaps Ehud should call upon everyone to realize this first, then we can discuss the 12 step program Zionists should undergo to wean off of their addiction to supremacy.

  4. echinococcus
    June 24, 2017, 1:58 pm

    Well, duh. He’s right, Bantustans are not viable. What he calls “Palestinian state” is no different than today’s situation made official.

    A real bantustan, officially acknowledged as “Palestinian State”, would be a smarter way for the Zionists to continue eating up Palestine and slowly “disappear” its owners. It would cause less of a reaction in the West; it would provide the complicit governments a better pretext to continue supporting Zionist invasion. It’s all in the name, after all. The rotting carcass by a nice new name would start smelling like a rose.

    The “Israeli” mob lathered up by a all the years of nationalist hysteria is now way too stupid to allow a smarter, dissimulating policy, and that is Barak’s complaint: without Zionist propaganda, no “Israel”; with it, no policy for long-term survival. As a result, media dictatorship in the US is now the only thread keeping the Zionist entity alive.

    As an officially acknowledged Bantustan, Palestine would disappear not under official military occupation, but as a client “state” agreeing to the rape. They could keep the Zio soldiery. They could keep the same PA personnel, including Abbas, and continue performing with only a police department and a jail for suppressing resistance. Worse than the “independent” French state in Vichy that the Nazi were smart enough to set up right at the start of their occupation: that one, at least, didn’t experience colonial settlement.

  5. James Canning
    June 24, 2017, 2:06 pm

    I think it obvious Palestine would not have an army, navy or air force. Not having those forces could be something of a blessing.

  6. Ossinev
    June 24, 2017, 3:07 pm

    “the strongest army in the world, almost a nuclear superpower”

    The strongest army in the world when it comes to 3 a.m. raids on innocent families and the snatching detention and torture 8 to 12 year olds. Strongest army my a…. The last time this mighty army took on a serious boots on the ground offensive against Hezbollah in 2006 they were left crying for their mamas.

    As for the almost nuclear superpower – whoops isn`t that giving the game away Ehud old bean.
    You are supposed to be all coy and might have might not have about your nuclear arsenal.

    Tick tick

  7. amigo
    June 24, 2017, 3:16 pm

    It is important to remember , when reading this guy,s advice that he is a major War Criminal.I suspect the beard is to make it easier to move around outside the Apartheid and rogue nation and avoid arrest and trial for his many many crimes.

    Isn,t this the guy who went further than any , blah blah blah.

    In case you are reading this Herr General , Israel is already a fascist Apartheid state.

    • jd65
      June 25, 2017, 3:09 am

      Yes, amigo. And you basically beat me to it:

      Barak: “History will never forgive us if we don’t stop in time the new incarnation of Jewish blind zealousness and bigotry.” Uhh… If we don’t stop in time? You’re a little late, Ehud. That train left the station ’bout a century ago.

  8. Qualtrough
    June 25, 2017, 2:23 am

    The normal and time-worn solution would be to have one state providing equal rights and representation for all those residing within its borders. That would be anathema to Zionists.

  9. Ossinev
    June 25, 2017, 7:59 am

    Speaking of war crimes Gruppenfuhrer Naftali Bennett has been spreading Zionist love and humanity again:
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-backs-probe-of-leftist-ngo-activist-who-claimed-he-beat-palestinian/
    “The IDF is the most moral army in the world. I served as a company commander in Jenin, Qabatiya, Ramallah and Gaza. We never, ever used unnecessary force.”

    This is the same Herr Bennett who when goosestepping around the occupied territories in his “most moral”uniform got a real kick out of killing Arabs:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/naftali-bennett-kill-arabs_n_3670767.html

    Apparently killing defenceless Untermenschen prisoners is not “unnecessary force” – no really it`s just well like the “moral” thing to do.

  10. shaun patrick
    June 26, 2017, 6:21 am

    Barak is a war criminal who did nothing to create a Palestinian state and he’s still spouting the same Iran Hamas crap to paper over and excuse his actions.

  11. Ossinev
    June 26, 2017, 9:03 am

    “This is an hour of test and crisis before we going to get to fascism… or god forbid to apartheid”

    An interesting train of thought. Apartheid coming after !! Fascism . As if Fascists would give a s… about accusations of Apartheid.

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