Israeli soldiers in the village of Nabi Saleh arresting a Palestinian (Photo: Nariman Tamimi via Haaretz)
Last week’s episode of “This American Life,” the popular public-radio show hosted by Ira Glass, included a striking 23-minute segment about the Israeli occupation of the West Bank. The piece was reported by Nancy Updike, an award-winning producer who’s been with the show since it began in 1995.
Titled “Photo Op” (audio here; transcript here – scroll down to “Act One”), it begins with Updike describing a video taken by Bilal Tamimi, a resident of the village of Nabi Saleh, as Israeli soldiers invaded his home at 1:00 a.m., woke up his children, wrote down their names and ID numbers, and took their pictures – then proceeded to do the same at a dozen other homes in the village.
Although Nabi Saleh, even more than other West Bank villages that frequently host protests, is well known for army violence, on this occasion there’s “no violence, no yelling, no confrontation.” But Updike, who mentions that she’s “been coming to the West Bank reporting on and off for 15 years” (and has also reported from Gaza, Iraq, and Egypt), perceptively suggests that the kind of quiet, routinized harassment the video depicts is also a big part of the answer to a fundamental question: “Israel went into the West Bank 46 years ago. What does it take to control so many people so effectively for so long?”
The villagers tell Updike that the Israelis use the photos of the children they take in the middle of the night to help them identify and then arrest stonethrowers they videotape during Nabi Saleh’s weekly demonstrations. But – and this is the most interesting part of the segment – she gets a different answer when she starts asking former Israeli soldiers who have taken part is such nighttime operations, which they call “mapping,” about their purpose. Yehuda Shaul, the heroic co-founder of Breaking the Silence, and several other vets explain to her that their superiors actually had no interest in the notes and photos they collected during such exercises – in fact, they routinely directed the soldiers simply to discard everything.
The real goal of these operations, the former soldiers explain, is to “make your presence felt,” to convince every Palestinian that “We’re breathing behind you. We’re always there. We’re always watching. You never know where we’re going to be, when we’re going to show up, how it’s going to look like, what we’re going to do, when it’s going to start, when it’s going to end, right?”
The vets go on to explain another type of operation they routinely carried out, the mock arrest:
Nadav Weiman, former intelligence chief for a special forces unit: And we’d go in the middle of the night, and we surround the house. And we shout, come out with your hands in the air. And we throw stun grenades, or we fire bullets at the walls of the house. Or we throw smoke grenades.
And then somebody comes out and is afraid, and he doesn’t know what is happening. And we arrest him. And we shout a lot in Hebrew and Arabic. We arrest him. We put him inside a Jeep. And then we do like two or three rounds–
Updike: Driving around the village.
Weiman: Driving around the village. And then after, like, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, maybe the whole night, we put him back inside his house and drove away from there. And the goal in that operation, the goal is creating the feeling of being chased in the Palestinian population.
Updike: To create the feeling of being chased in the Palestinian population was an explicit goal that Nadav says he saw many times typed out in the PowerPoint presentation his team would be shown before a mission, right there along with all the other official information.
One telling touch: the soldiers explain that before they could carry out one of these mock arrests, they were required to check first with the Shabak, the Israeli internal intelligence agency, and get confirmation that “everybody in the house is innocent and not connected to terror.”
Predictably, the piece includes several passages clearly intended to provide “balance”: “For sure, there are people in the West Bank who want to kill Israelis,” and some army operations are actually directed against such targets. A Palestinian was recently convicted of throwing stones that caused an accident that killed an Israeli father and his baby. “You could argue that creating the feeling of being chased in the Palestinian population has worked, that mapping is important to Israel’s security. And it doesn’t matter whether data is kept or not.” And of course there’s the obligatory acknowledgment that some Israelis are troubled about what their sons and daughters do across the Green Line: Tamimi’s video of the nighttime operation in Nabi Saleh even aired on Israel’s Channel 10 and generated a flurry of discussion on Facebook and Twitter.
I suppose Updike could also be accused of glossing over the worst of the occupation: after all, real arrests occur every day, and they’re obviously worse than mock ones; violent raids are probably more common than the quiet ones in the video she focuses on.
Still, her report offers an unvarnished look at at least some of the routine abuses that underpin the occupation, and that’s still rare enough in American media to be worth celebrating. “This American Life” has an enormous and devoted audience, and it’s hard to see how anyone except hardcore Zionists could sit through last week’s episode and not come away appalled by what Updike describes.
Now if Ira Glass himself would produce something similar…
Fascinating, if disturbing insight into the moral depravity and corruption of the IDF and all the other so-called ‘security’ agencies. So their purpose is not a military or security one, but a cynical, vindictive and supremacist one of cold, calculated harassment, causing trauma and distress, terrorising innocent people into making them feel destabilised, subject to violence and arrest at the capricious whim of a totalitarian force (not to mention the appropriation of their land and water, and the destruction of their infrastructure). Now that is what i would call an existential threat , and not just a threat, but a reality. You know, the kind Israelis always wheel out to hide their crimes, and one which they are not remotely in danger of. The sadism is appalling – this is what Israel has become. Thuggish, brutish and merciless. An example to dictatorships and totalitarian states everywhere.
I think we’ve been critical of NPR on this site for a long time – and for damned good reasons, too.
Updike’s report is a welcome addition, but it’s still only an abberation from a long-standing bias. Most of their foreign policy journalists are old, Jewish white men who are Zionists. One of them even volunteered to interview Lieberman(!) when he was in D.C. and smiled with him when Lieberman made a joke. That’s how bad it is.
Thanks, Henry, for great work, as always. About Ira Glass: I hadn’t heard “TAL” for a while, til a friend played this fascinating reflection for me yesterday,
Audio: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/491/tribes
Transcript http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/491/transcript:
“This guy I know, David Rudis….is concerned about the fact that… fewer Jews are joining Jewish organizations and identifying as Jews. He thinks those organizations need to make themselves more relevant to modern Jews.
“And I[said], that’s fine for him, but that is just not my thing. Yes, I’m Jewish, but I don’t believe in God. I married a non-Jew. I’ve been eating bread all this week during Passover. I have plenty of interesting Jews in my life and feel no need to meet any more. Why would I ever join a Jewish organization?
“This, of course, led to the brief obligatory discussion of the Holocaust, which is what we Jews always talk about at a point like this in a conversation like this. And David was very insistent that it doesn’t matter if I think of myself as a Jew. I just am a Jew.
“David Rudis: I think, Ira, you don’t even begin to realize how much this identity has affected your life. As an avid listener to your show, there is something profoundly Jewish in the contents of what you’re producing, whether you know it or not.
“Ira Glass: I’m so surprised to hear you say that you think of the show as a Jewish kind of cultural product, because I don’t think of it that way at all.
“David Rudis: See, I actually think it is. If you’re playing morality plays to get into the hearts and heads of people on a weekly basis, what is more Jewish than that, than telling and interpreting a story? It’s in your DNA.
“Ira Glass: I suggested to him that telling stories is kind of something that every culture does, not just the Jews. David says sure, but so what?
“David Rudis: Literally what you’re doing really is profoundly Jewish.
“Ira Glass: It was a weird conversation. David thinks that in our big, multicultural world, of course it is just old-fashioned for people to identify strictly with their own ethnic tribe….But at that same time as he was saying this he says– no contradiction here– he just likes having his own tribe and would like me to come join the herd.”
*****
The audio’s intriguing, especially the urgency in David Rudis’s tones, anxious that Glass discard a universal kinship in favor of a particular bloodline. I wonder when Ira and the other storytellers at “TAL” will join us here–not as part of a herd–but because they’re now grappling with the mysteries Phil, Adam, you, and all our online friends at MW.net search out and sort out, each in different ways.
Wait, are you saying that Ira Glass did not produce this or consent to its being produced and reported on his show? Or, is it not his show and he is just one of several hosts or just a spokesperson for someone else’s show?
thank you, Henry. I was a little put off by Glass’ intro to the segment explaining that it’s no surprise that people would disagree about the photos because they are from “a part of the world where people disagree about how to interpret so, so many things”. I expected the segment to include a Palestinian viewpoint, but Updike only presented two very slightly different versions from IDF soldiers! (neither of which explained that Palestinians protesting on their own land were being abducted and killed by the IDF.) I was so bummed.
But more than that, I was stunned by the explanation that “mapping” is probably successfully keeping violence against Israelis down. After the two shows on the violence suffered by high school kids in the southside of Chicago (“Harper High School” etc), would Updike and Glass consider “mapping” to solve things there?
Can you imagine that?? If it works for Israelis, why not here?? How can it not sound sick and twisted to Updike? Maybe people in THIS part of the world disagree more about how to interpret things than they do in the middle east??
And today in the news, there is an FBI sting that effectively eliminates a Muslim kid from Chicago by hooking him into joining fighters in Syria… is this the FBI’s form of “mapping”?