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This is part of Marc H. Ellis’s “Exile and the Prophetic” feature for Mondoweiss. To read the entire series visit the archive page.

If President Obama agreed with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House yesterday that “Iran’s conciliatory words have to be matched by real actions – transparent, verifiable, meaningful actions.  Iran is committed to Israel’s destruction,” the President should apply the same principle to Israel: “Israel’s conciliatory words have to be matched by real actions – transparent, verifiable, meaningful actions.  Israel is committed to Palestine’s destruction.”

It’s so obvious.  I doubt the thought escaped our clever President.

On Iran, President Obama continued:  “We have to have actions that give the international community confidence that in fact they are meeting their international obligations fully and they are not in a position to have a nuclear weapon.  We have to test diplomacy.  We have to see if in fact they are serious about their willingness to abide by international norms and international law and international requirements and resolutions.”  The President might just as well have been referring to Israel.  The only change would be – “have a nuclear weapon.”  Israel has quite a few already.

Sanctions are as sanctions go.  In the past, I have argued for military intervention to drive Israel back to its 1967 borders.  Perhaps I jumped the gun.  The United States should impose sanctions on Israel first.  Sanctions would be lifted when Israel abides by “international norms and international law and international requirements and resolutions.”

US government sponsored BDS.  Imagine Samanatha Power announcing that at the UN right before Netanyahu speaks today.

Think what threatening Israel with sanctions would do for America’s standing in the world.  To begin, it would level the playing field and place Israel, AIPAC and, yes, J Street on notice.  The extended honeymoon for these various Jewish establishments is over.  Rhetorical posturing is out.  It’s time to get serious.

Time to get serious about Egypt, too.  Egypt’s military is now cleaning out any and all dissenters to its martial law overreach and its treatment of prisoners, including Westerners, is abominable.

On Syria, why isn’t the Russian-American alliance working to end the bloodshed rather than concentrating on the bogus issue of chemical weapons?

The list goes on and on.

Today, however, Netanyahu will up the rhetoric to hide the reality of Israeli expansion and its brutality against Palestinians.  Since Netanyahu knows the international score the question is obvious:  How does he and Israel get away with this subterfuge?  How long can such deception last?

Marc H. Ellis
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Marc H. Ellis is Professor of History and Jewish Studies and Director of the Center for the Study of the Global Prophetic. His latest book is Finding Our Voice: Embodying the Prophetic and Other Misadventures.

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  1. seafoid
    seafoid
    October 1, 2013, 10:18 am

    I don’t think Israel can sell “we love peace” for much longer since it is blatantly obvious nobody anywhere near power in Zionism is interested in 2 states.
    And “poor us” isn’t going to work much longer either, not to mention “we are just like you” which is also patently bullshit.

  2. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    October 1, 2013, 10:26 am

    Why wouldnt the deception last? People in general are ignorant, they buy those lies by netanyahu.

  3. eljay
    eljay
    October 1, 2013, 10:39 am

    >> On Iran, President Obama continued: “We have to have actions that give the international community confidence that in fact they are meeting their international obligations fully …

    On Israel: “We have to have actions that give the international community confidence that in fact they are meeting their international obligations fully … ”

    On the U.S. itself: “We have to have actions that give the international community confidence that in fact we are meeting our international obligations fully … ”

    C’mon, Barry, you can do it!

    (No, he can’t. Actually, he can. But he won’t.)

    • Donald
      Donald
      October 1, 2013, 6:27 pm

      “C’mon, Barry, you can do it!

      (No, he can’t. Actually, he can. But he won’t.)”

      You’re right.

      On a somewhat related note, I keep seeing Westerners giving credit to the harsh sanctions on Iran for Rouhani’s peace offensive. No one ever questions the ethics of hurting (and probably killing the most vulnerable) ordinary Iranians in this way. If the same thing were done to Israel there would be weekly stories in the NYT about the suffering of ordinary Israelis and the outcry would be deafening. Of course it wouldn’t happen in the first place.

      The world is run on two sets of principles, as always–one for the strong and one for the weak.

  4. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    October 1, 2013, 10:49 am

    The United States bottom line always seems to be our way or the highway, so that when Susan Rice said on the CNN interview several days ago “the US position on Syria is Assad must go” means regime change, totally in breach of International Law, but then not unusual for the exceptional nation. Then in reply to this question on Iran “Is it the position that the United States that Iran cannot enrich uranium?”
    RICE: “Well, Fareed, those words were chosen very deliberately. The United States has not spoken about a right of Iran to enrich. We have said that, as a member of the NPT, in the context of Iran meeting its international obligations.
    That means fulfilling it’s responsibilities under the IAEA resolutions as well as the U.N. Security Council resolutions”.
    Of course the UNSC Resolutions call for Iran to cease enrichment, I foresee the US being totally unreasonable here and for negotiations to break down over the right to enrichment on Iranian soil, as for easing sanctions, forget it those sanctions are in place until Iran cries uncle.

  5. amigo
    amigo
    October 1, 2013, 12:15 pm

    I am listening to this criminal on AJ.

    Thoroughly vomit inducing hasbara and lies.

    Hard to listen to him.

  6. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 1, 2013, 12:44 pm

    Yeah, I’ve long thought what we do to Iran we would be better off doing to Israel, for everybody’s benefit. Hard to believe the politicians don’t see this, the ones who are merely whores, used-car sales folks who convince themselves first of the crap they are selling to keep their comfy lives on track–as distinguished from the Zionist fanatics who never have even a moment’s introspection in this matter.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      October 1, 2013, 2:11 pm

      What a pathetic speech

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.549966

      7:40 P.M. Netanyahu: The Jewish people will never be uprooted again.

      >>> There seem to be an awful lot of Sabras in NYC

      7:37 P.M. Netanyahu: My predecessors and I have been willing to make painful concessions, but Palestinians have not yet been willing to do the same, and recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

      >>> More BS

      7:35 P.M. Netanyahu: Many Arab countries have recognized that Israel is not their enemy. Israel welcomes engagement with the wider Arab world and continues to seek a historic compromise with our Palestinian neighbors that ends our conflict once and for all.

      >>> Captain Pig to ground control – we have lift off

      7:34 P.M. Netanyahu: Against the threat of a rogue regime that threatens to wipe Israel off the map, Israel is forced to defend itself. If Israel is forced to stand alone, it will, but in standing alone we will know that we are defending many, many others.

      >>> Israel can’t do anything alone. Remember 1973 and the state of the underwear in the Kirya

      7:33 P.M. Netanyahu: If you want to cease Iran’s nuclear program, don’t let up the pressure. The greater the pressure, the greater the change. … Distrust, dismantle and verify.

      >>> Good advice to BDS

      7:28 P.M. Netanyahu: A nuclear Iran would trigger an arms race in the Middle East and would turn the prospect of nuclear-armed terrorism into a reality.

      >>> In other words, Israel would lose its hegemony

      7:27 P.M. Netanyahu: As dangerous as a nuclear-armed North Korea is, it doesn’t compare to a nuclear-armed Iran.

      >> > Poor Israel and its lost regional hegemony . No more bombing the crap out of Southern Lebanon every 7 years

      7:26 P.M. Netanyahu compares Iranian nuclear program to that of North Korea.

      >>>Israel’s is Shirley Temple

      7:25 P.M. Netanyahu: Rohani thinks he can have his yellowcake and eat it too.

      7:24 P.M. Netanyahu: Rohani thinks he can get away with his “smile offensive” because he’s gotten away with it before; his strategy of talking loud and doing little has worked for him in the past.

      >>>This is actually Netanyahu’s own strategy

      7:22 P.M. Netanyahu: Iran has one big problem: sanctions. The sanctions are bearing fruit, thanks to the efforts of many countries.

      7:19 P.M. Netanyahu: It’s not hard to find evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, it’s hard to find evidence that it doesn’t have one.

      >>> we know Israel has one

      7:17 P.M. Netanyahu: I wish I could believe Rohani but I don’t, because facts are stubborn things and the facts are that Iran’s savage record flatly contradicts Rohani’s soothing rhetoric.

      >>>> Rohani could say the same about Israel’s interest in peace

  7. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    October 1, 2013, 1:36 pm

    RE: “Today, however, Netanyahu will up the rhetoric to hide the reality of Israeli expansion and its brutality against Palestinians. . . How does he and Israel get away with this subterfuge? How long can such deception last?” ~ Marc Ellis

    MY COMMENT: As long as the U.S. Government (especially the Congress) and our mainstream/corporate media have Israel’s (and BiBi’s) back(s)! ! !

  8. James Canning
    James Canning
    October 1, 2013, 2:48 pm

    I do not think Iran “is committed to Israel’s destruction”. Iran has indicated it will accept 2002 Saudi peace plan if the Palestinians accept it.

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      October 1, 2013, 4:09 pm

      Huh? Of course Iran is not commited to that.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        October 1, 2013, 7:15 pm

        @Just – – Iranians have indicated a number of times they will accept whatever deal with Israel the Palestinians themselves accept.

  9. quercus
    quercus
    October 1, 2013, 3:00 pm

    I listened to the speech on c-span, and I found him funny in a pathetic, sad way. He was so predictable, with his little “amen chorus” applauding as he took to the podium. It was evident that most of the rest of those present (what there were of them) were not impressed, as the applause was extremely tepid at the end, despite his chorus.

    It is obvious he is addressing himself to the very religious, particularly when he mentioned about rebuilding the temple.

    A largely mythical ancient history he related and I wonder if it has ever occurred to this silly man, that the Palestinians may very well, are probably are in fact descendents of people who subscribed to the Jewish religion, but became Muslim converts? And just a few days ago, on this site and in a comment someone talked about “Jewish Arabs” or “Arab Jews” — they would be semites, yes? So what does that make Mr. Netanyahu and those who came from Europe? I think they are not semites.

  10. Mike_Konrad
    Mike_Konrad
    October 1, 2013, 5:31 pm

    Marc H. Ellis

    In the past, I have argued for military intervention to drive Israel back to its 1967 borders. Perhaps I jumped the gun.

    I’ll say! Nothing short of a third world war will drive Israel back.

    The United States should impose sanctions on Israel first.

    Dream on!

    Right or wrong, Israel will never retreat from Judea and Samaria.

    • Sumud
      Sumud
      October 1, 2013, 7:05 pm

      Right or wrong, Israel will never retreat from Judea and Samaria.

      Keep telling yourself that; keep ignoring reality.

      Apartheid is not a sustainable solution.

      Israel dealt itself a fatal blow in 1967 with the war and then the settlements. When Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territories demand a vote the world will join them.

      Israel can’t withdraw from the West Bank, and there is no way they can prevent all of mandate Palestine becoming a single state with a Palestinian majority who will enact right of return.

      Israel will simply cease to exist. Jewish Israelis do not have sumud.

    • Ron Edwards
      Ron Edwards
      October 1, 2013, 8:02 pm

      I didn’t quite catch that – never retreat from where?

      Sorry, again, didn’t hear it. From where?

      Ah! I see! From the illegal, brutal, immiserating occupation of the West Bank. Talk a little louder next time so we can hear you.

      Newsflash: there is no Judea and no Samaria.

  11. libra
    libra
    October 1, 2013, 5:52 pm

    Mike_Konrad: Nothing short of a third world war will drive Israel back.

    Surely you mean the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, don’t you Mike?

  12. October 1, 2013, 6:23 pm

    it will last just as long as he wants it to, at least in america!
    i’m convinced that most americans are some of the stupidest people on earth to have believed this piece of **** and his terror network as long as they have with no let up in sight. brainwashed idiots!

  13. tree
    tree
    October 1, 2013, 6:36 pm

    Nothing short of a third world war will drive Israel back.

    If the US, alone, or under UN auspices, sent a peace keeping force to Palestine, who, pray tell, would side with Israel in its belligerent occupation? You need to have nearly the whole world involved in opposite sides for there to be a World War. I don’t see it. I think you are channeling Chicken Little. Why?

  14. libra
    libra
    October 1, 2013, 6:47 pm

    Professor Ellis: How long can Netanyahu’s deception last?

    I don’t want to sound pessimistic here but I don’t think anyone will see through that comb over anytime soon.

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