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Naftali Bennett at an Israel Project event in Jerusalem. (The Israel Project/Flickr)

Naftali Bennett at an Israel Project event in Jerusalem. (The Israel Project/Flickr)

Naftali Bennett, the star of the Israeli right, is nothing if not brash and confident. His cockiness shone through at a New York appearance last night. He bragged about his “landslide” HaBayit HaYehudi primary victory, about how he sold his tech companies for millions of dollars and why he’s Israel’s “innovation czar.”

He had plenty of reasons to act that way at Manhattan’s 92nd Street Y. The audience clapped at every opportunity as his perfect English was aired throughout the event space (which was hardly sold out). The only signs of dissent were a handful of young Jewish protesters who stood outside, and who were mocked by Bennett at several turns. And his interlocutor, neoconservative Dan Senor, was a decidedly friendly host, mostly throwing softballs at Bennett, who was blunt about the peace process and subtly racist about the larger Middle East.

Members of the All That's Left activist group protest outside Bennett's appearance at the 92nd Street Y. (Photo: Alex Kane)

Members of the All That’s Left activist group protest outside Bennett’s appearance at the 92nd Street Y. (Photo: Alex Kane)

Bennett’s appearance at a key Jewish cultural institution on Manhattan’s Upper East Side largely repeated the typical tropes of Israel advocacy. The conversation with Senor ran the gamut of Israeli politics: the role of the Haredim and Palestinian citizens of Israel; the high-tech economy; the Arab Spring; the peace process; and Israeli public relations. It took about 40 minutes of banter before Bennett, the head of the religious nationalist HaBayit HaYehudi party, and former Mitt Romney spokesman Senor got to the main event: Iran.

Senor asked Bennett about the West’s argument that failure in Geneva could lead to a path where the only two options are an Iranian nuclear weapon and an Israeli or American bombing campaign. Bennett, echoing his boss Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said that a “bad deal will lead to war.” It was a message Bennett had been hammering home on his jaunt to the U.S. He has met with Congressional officials to persuade them to pressure the Obama administration away from what looks to be coming down the pike: a first-step agreement on Iran’s nuclear energy program.  At the same time, he emphasized that the Obama administration was a strong friend of Israel.

Bennett admitted that Iran doesn’t want a nuclear weapon today. But he said they want one tomorrow. In other words, Bennett was arguing that Iran wants the capability to produce a weapon, and that the talks in Geneva should seek to prevent the country from reaching that capability. His pitch was that it was the time to ratchet up sanctions to increase American leverage at the negotiating table.

The talk came three days before negotiations with Iran that could lead to an agreement kick off again in Geneva.

Bennett also didn’t shy away from conjuring up worst-case scenarios when it came to Iran.

“These are very fateful days,” Bennett told the crowd. “If a decade from now, God forbid, a nuclear suitcase blows up in an American city, we will be able to trace it back to these days…If a nuclear missile hits Rome or Paris or Tel Aviv five years from now, it will be because of these days.”

He also called Iran the world’s biggest exporter of terrorism. “We’re not talking about Switzerland,” said Bennett. “These guys aren’t dancing ballet. These are terrorists operating over five continents, 24 states, and supporting terror from Kazakhstan to Thailand to Israel…It’s not some beautiful state.”

The talk began with Senor asking Bennett about his personal path from New York City-resident and tech mogul to commando in an elite Israeli unit. Before long, Bennett turned to typical Israeli hasbara. The Arab Spring is turning into a “Muslim winter.” And Israel is not just about the conflict. It’s the “lighthouse nation,” he repeatedly said. It’s also the “cucumber nation,” repeating a line that he has used before. It’s a reference to how Israeli agricultural techniques have helped India’s cucumber crop. He added that if Israel builds “500 water centers in Africa, Africa won’t be talking to us about the conflict.” Bennett also praised Senor for writing the book Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle. The crowd applauded loudly for Senor.

Despite the ongoing negotiations with the Palestinian Authority, Bennett was sour on the prospects for peace. He questioned whether an agreement could be sustainable without buy-in from Gaza. “Do we have to give up all of Judea and Samaria, and then we’re left with one-and-a-half million who say, ‘we’re not part of the deal, we still want to kill you.’ It doesn’t seem to me good business to do that.”

The right-wing politician also dismissed those who refer to Israel’s occupation of the West Bank by pulling out a coin–supposedly from the year 66—that referenced “Zion.” “Can I ‘occupy’ my own home?” Bennett asked, before pushing for his plan to annex Area C of the West Bank and give citizenship to 70,000 Palestinians, which he said would not threaten Israel’s Jewish demographic majority.

He closed out the night by saying things like, “in this region, nice songs are not really appreciated,” before launching into a discussion of why Israel’s future is so bright. “I think Israel is exactly heading in the right direction,” a message that put Bennett’s contradictory messages–Israel faces peril, but Israel is a “lighthouse” spreading its technology around the world–on full display.

Meanwhile, about a dozen young Jewish protesters from the All That’s Left collective stood outside the talk with protest signs and engaged in arguments with audience members as they filtered out of the 92nd Street Y. The protesters from All That’s Left, an anti-occupation activist group formed in Israel, held up model settlements with inflammatory Bennett quotes painted on them.

“Naftali Bennett doesn’t speak for me,” All That’s Left member Dana Mandler told me. “He speaks the language of violence and racism.”

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  1. Tzombo
    Tzombo
    November 18, 2013, 1:04 pm

    The more they peddle this stupid crap, the less serious the world takes them on any subject.

    • FreddyV
      FreddyV
      November 19, 2013, 11:54 am

      I don’t get all this enrichment stuff. Doc Brown just got a load of Plutonium from those Libyan guys in the VW camper bus to fuel his De Lorean.

      OK, so you still can’t get it at every grocery store, but how hard can it be exactly?………..

      We’re only 2 years off from having hoverboards for frick’s sake!

  2. seafoid
    seafoid
    November 18, 2013, 1:28 pm

    A nuclear suitcase- would it cost 3 trillion to sort out? Would it result in the deaths of 5000 Americans?

    That was what the Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost in American lives and treasure. Israel wanted them. Bennett is another snake oil salesman.

    Hard to disagree with Brzezinski

    http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/brzezinski-the-syria-crisis-8636

    Brzezinski:
    “But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream.”

    • HarryLaw
      HarryLaw
      November 18, 2013, 3:14 pm

      Sorry seafoid your suitcase is too small, according to Harvard University Kennedy School of Government, the combined cost of the two wars is getting on for 6 trillion dollars http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-203012-US-wars-in-Afghanistan-Iraq-to-cost-$6-trillion and this is what 6 trillion dollars looks like http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/calculations.html.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        November 18, 2013, 3:26 pm

        Cheers! 6tn is around 3 times the annual IRS tax take. Wallahi.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        November 20, 2013, 7:14 pm

        Fantastically expensive blunders. Iraq and Afghanistan.

    • American
      American
      November 18, 2013, 5:23 pm

      @ seafoid

      Brzezinski – smart. Israelis -stupid.
      Size matters, of both land mass and population, natural resources matter and no matter how many weapons you have, in a conventional non nuke war you have to have the resources to keep it going for the long haul.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      November 19, 2013, 4:27 am

      Right now it looks like 100 US senators have done a good job for many decades controlling the region in question in behalf tiny Israel.

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        November 19, 2013, 5:41 pm

        Fantastically expesnive US military adventure in Iraq probably did not do all that much good for Israel. Even if a major purpose off the invasion of Iraq was to benefit Israel.

  3. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    November 18, 2013, 1:28 pm

    I’d be very surprised if the USA (maybe NYC where I live) is not already “host” to an Israeli nuke. Israel has nukes and to spare, and it needs to wield power over the USA (and in fact seems to do so). There was a long period when the USA was not even making a pretence of checking cargoes arriving in our ports by ship. Easy as pie.

    Also, Israel delights to accuse others (usually Palestinians) to acts which Israel has already done. Thus, accusing Palestinians of planning to overrun Israel by use of “salami-tactics” which, as we know, is Israel’s own favorite tactic for overrunning Palestine.

  4. German Lefty
    German Lefty
    November 18, 2013, 1:32 pm

    OMG! I just read this on the German BILD website: In an exclusive interview, Netanyahu stated that “Iran wants to level nuclear missiles at German cities”. He warned Germany against making too many concessions to the Iranian regime.
    http://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/benjamin-netanjahu/exklusiv-interview-iran-will-atomraketen-auf-deutsche-staedte-richten-33447450,var=a,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html
    The article is behind a pay wall. The quote is from the headline.

  5. seafoid
    seafoid
    November 18, 2013, 1:42 pm

    Donkey fellatio has a price in lost influence

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/08/us-unesco-voting-funds-palestine-decision

    “American influence in culture, science and education around the world took a high-profile blow Friday after the U.S. automatically lost voting rights at UNESCO, after missing a crucial deadline to repay its debt to the world’s cultural agency.
    The U.S. hasn’t paid its dues to the Paris-based UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization in protest over the decision by world governments to make Palestine a UNESCO member in 2011. Israel suspended its dues at the same time and also lost voting rights on Friday.
    The suspension of U.S. contributions, which account for $80 million a year — 22 percent of UNESCO’s overall budget — brought the agency to the brink of a financial crisis and forced it to cut or scale back American-led initiatives such as Holocaust education and tsunami research over the past two years.
    It has worried many in Washington that the United States is on track to becoming a toothless UNESCO member with a weakened voice in international programs fighting extremism through education, and promoting gender equality and press freedoms.

    “The United States must not voluntarily forfeit its leadership in the world community,” Rep. Keith Ellison, a Democrat from Minnesota, told The Associated Press in an email.

    UNESCO Director-General Irina Bokova lamented the changes that are not only seeing America silenced within her organization but also bringing UNESCO financially to its knees.
    “I regret to say that I’m seeing, in these last two years … a declining American influence and American involvement,” Bokova told The Associated Press.”

  6. James Canning
    James Canning
    November 18, 2013, 2:01 pm

    Let’s hope at least some rich and powerful Jews in New York tell Bennett to stop growing the illegal colonies of Jews in the West Bank.

  7. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    November 18, 2013, 2:43 pm

    One of the difficulties of the present impasse is the right or lack of right for Iran to enrich uranium to 5% on Iranian soil. Back in 2008 the Iranians proposed that an International consortium be set up to do just that on Iranian soil. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/may/23/iran.nuclear” Most importantly, it calls for “establishing enrichment and nuclear fuel production consortiums in different parts of the world – including in Iran”. Would it not be possible that this consortium also be responsible for all checks and inspections under the relevant treaties, surely this would be better than the nonsense I have just heard from Hollande in Israel .. “put all the Iranian nuclear installations under international supervision, right now”. a clear loss of sovereignty no self respecting Nation could put up with.

    • marc b.
      marc b.
      November 18, 2013, 3:25 pm

      they should require all nuclear powers to provide signatures of whatever enriched materials they produce. or do they already supposedly do that?

    • James Canning
      James Canning
      November 20, 2013, 7:17 pm

      In 2008, Dick Cheney was still VP. He did not want the US to act intelligently toward Iran.

  8. Ecru
    Ecru
    November 18, 2013, 2:53 pm

    A suitcase nuke detonating in a Western city? Alas that wouldn’t surprise me in the least, Israel would probably love nothing better than to pin a nuclear false flag on some Muslim nation.

    Though I doubt they’d target the USA (what and risk all that lovely moolah on American reconstruction efforts?), more likely a European city I think. Possibly London (they do seem to have an abiding hatred of Britain) most probably any nation that’s a member of NATO so they’d be sure of getting American involvement.

    In fact I have to wonder if in part they actually want another Middle Eastern nation to get nukes just so they can false-flag nuke somebody.

  9. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    November 18, 2013, 3:30 pm

    Another brainwashed nuthouse.
    Although now we know who would attack west with suitcases and then blame Iran.

  10. Walid
    Walid
    November 18, 2013, 4:14 pm

    In spite of the hugs and kisses in front of the cameras, things between Hollande and Netanyahu are not as rosy as they first appeared after the blockage by Fabius last week-end. Hollande in Jerusalem after having been welcomed to the Knesset and to Jerusalem the Jewish capital since 3000 years by Netanyahu, in a speech to the Knesset said that colonization of the territories had to stop and to stop for good and that Jerusalem should be the capital of both Israel the Palestinian state.

    Things aren’t looking good for Netanyahu on Iran from France either. While he’s asking for a total stop of Iranian nuclear activity, Hollande is willing to live with Iran’s enrichment at 20% provided there is a good inspection program in place. Hollande is also refusing to go along with Netanyahu’s demand to dismantle the plant at Arak as he’s willing to allow work on it during the proposed 6-month probationary period.

    Hollande also received today, a petition signed by 400 prominent Iranian dissidents living in Iran and elsewhere, asking Hollande to not pull another blockage of any deal with Iran as they the dissidents are willing to give the new Iraqi president the opportunity to prove that he really wants to change things for the better in Iran.

    • lysias
      lysias
      November 18, 2013, 5:57 pm

      While he’s asking for a total stop of Iranian nuclear activity, Hollande is willing to live with Iran’s enrichment at 20% provided there is a good inspection program in place. Hollande is also refusing to go along with Netanyahu’s demand to dismantle the plant at Arak as he’s willing to allow work on it during the proposed 6-month probationary period.

      Those sound like terms the Iranians could accept.

    • piotr
      piotr
      November 18, 2013, 7:23 pm

      The bottom line is that USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia and some other want to keep Iran week, nukes or no nukes, while Russia and China want a balanced situation and the market for their products, moreover a bunch of countries would welcome cheaper oil. If it becomes clear that USA and stooges in Europe want to maintain sanctions regardless of compromises offered in talks, Russia, China and a number of other countries can end sanctions. Something that would also happen 5 minutes after an attack on Iran.

      This is a diplomatic game on a large board known as The Great Game. Israel is just a little pebble in this context. Even though it gets inordinate amount of attention, there are more important players in Eurasia, and they are sufficiently important that they do not need to say much. China says next to nothing in public recently, but do you really think that China does not matter here? Or Germany?

      Right now, people with money are betting on a successful preliminary agreement with Iran (“light sweet crude” down to 92.99, I highly recommend — simply delicious, and with the name “light sweet”, I guess not fattening).

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        November 18, 2013, 7:51 pm

        piotr – – Iran would be far richer and stronger today, if it had not restarted its programme of uranium enrichment. Far richer, far stronger.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 19, 2013, 4:54 am

        @ james Canning
        Really? You mean because there would’ve been no sanctions against Iran? Or what?

      • James Canning
        James Canning
        November 19, 2013, 5:44 pm

        @Citizen – – Iran’s nuclear programme has damaged the Iranian economy by at least $1 trillion. And not one kilowatt hour of electricity has been generated by nuclear fuel Iran will be able to provide, once contract with Russia expires. And yes, there would be few sanctions on Iran, if Iran had never restarted enriching uranium.

  11. Krauss
    Krauss
    November 18, 2013, 4:27 pm

    Some of you may or may not remember, but the “suitcase hasbara” goes back to the Iraq war mongering. It’s typically reserved for America as the average American isn’t going to believe Iran is going to launch an ICBM against American cities because it’s very far away, the U.S has much better defence capabilities and people just don’t see it as a threat.

    Thus, the “suitcase hasbara” comes in play. For Europe, which is much closer to Iran than America, they make the ICBM argument in part because Europe hasn’t really needed a strong ICBM defence post-1990 fall of the Soviet Union.

    But both arguments are made out of hay. It also shows a certain level of desperation that they are merely recycling old stuff.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      November 18, 2013, 4:30 pm

      P.S.

      Is Bennett being groomed as Netanyahu’s successor? He seems to revel in the same kind of fearmongering Neyanyahu does and he has worked for him in the past, too. You get the sense that he trusts Bennett a lot more with this mission than he does with Lapid. Interestingly, Lieberman is nowhere to be seen, even if he’s supposed to be the foreign minister.

      They say Lieberman wants to take over Likud. From my viewpoint, Bennett is the natural successor to Neyanyahu. A tech-savvy Bibi 2.0 fluent in English and with parents from California. Easy to sell him to the American Jewish fundraising circuit.

  12. Krauss
    Krauss
    November 18, 2013, 4:39 pm

    WE HAVE TO STOP A NUCLEAR 9/11!!!!1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyZ2mzmGPA

    Somehow we missed this blowhard interview via Faux News this week. Well, I never watch it, so that’s my excuse. After this article, I just went on YouTube and searched his name within this week and found the clip above.

    The guy’s a nutjob. I’m sure there are people who believe him. He says a nuclear 9/11 and ICBMs hitting Rome(!). Who seriously thinks the Iranians are going to nuke Rome? This is why they’re losing the PR debacle.

    • lysias
      lysias
      November 19, 2013, 2:53 pm

      The Iranians may not hit Rome, with a nuclear weapon or otherwise, but a false flag attack that is made to look as if it is the work of Iranians seems altogether more likely.

  13. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    November 18, 2013, 5:06 pm

    Bennett say’s “it’s the lighthouse nation”, yes, all alone, out at sea, with no friendly neighbors. It’s also “the cucumber nation”, yes, and forever sticking it up it’s neighbors..

  14. bilal a
    bilal a
    November 18, 2013, 5:15 pm

    Where would Israel (I mean Iran) get a suitcase nuke that is ‘deniable’?

    “THE CONTINUING debate over Russia’s command and control of its nuclear arsenal intensified on September 7 when retired General Alexander Lebed, former secretary of the Russian Security Council, told the CBS news program “60 Minutes” that he believes more than 100 “suitcase sized” nuclear weapons are unaccounted for. Lebed’s charge elicited an immediate response from several senior Russian government officials, including Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, who denied the existence of these weapons—known in the West as atomic demolition munitions (ADMs)—and argued that the Russian arsenal remains safe and secure. The State Department also reiterated its strong confidence in Russia’s command and control system. Lebed’s account is detailed in a new book, One Point Safe, by journalists Andrew and Leslie Cockburn”

    http://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997_09/lebedsept

  15. atime forpeace
    atime forpeace
    November 18, 2013, 6:37 pm

    from the master of the emp Dr Gordon Prather…

    “Of course, it is one thing for Russia or China to have that capability. It is quite another for a “potentially hostile state or non-state actor” to develop or acquire such a capability.

    Is it conceivable that Iran could develop such a capability? Iran – one of the very largest producers of oil and natural gas in the world – can’t even construct the refineries it needs to produce enough gasoline for its population.

    In any case, if Iran was to somehow acquire a multi-megaton nuke (from the Russians or the Chinese?), why do the Likudniks think you’re stupid enough to believe their claim that the Iranians would choose some non-lethal use for it? Like using a magic carpet to haul it up 50 miles or so above Kansas and detonating it? Is that what you’d do? Or would you use eight tiny reindeer?

    Do the Likudniks really believe that you’re stupid enough to believe that if the Israelis don’t launch a “preventative strike” against the Mullahs and the Iranian IAEA-Safeguarded facilities this year or early next year that nine out of ten of us will – if we’re the lucky ones – freeze in the dark?”

    http://www.antiwar.com/prather/?articleid=13549

    • piotr
      piotr
      November 18, 2013, 7:28 pm

      Thanks to pointing out the real danger: Iran is the largest producer of carpets, quite possibly developing magic carpet capability. Experts predict that they could achieve the production of magic carpets in a matter of month.

      This is dire news. Even without magic invisibility, carpets have no radar signature and there are no known defenses. Armies of jinns mounted on magic carpets — they could bring havoc anytime, anywhere.

  16. atime forpeace
    atime forpeace
    November 18, 2013, 8:07 pm

    Here is the U.S Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack
    Volume 1: Executive Report 2004

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/congress/2004_r/04-07-22emp.pdf

  17. Shmuel
    Shmuel
    November 19, 2013, 2:40 am

    The right-wing politician also dismissed those who refer to Israel’s occupation of the West Bank by pulling out a coin–supposedly from the year 66—that referenced “Zion.” “Can I ‘occupy’ my own home?” Bennett asked

    I presume he pulled out a modern 10 shekel coin, which bears the image of a coin minted during the First Revolt (with the legend “For the deliverance of Zion”). Revolt? Deliverance? Against whom? From whom? Were the Romans occupiers? There are earlier coins bearing the words “Caesar Augustus”. How could the Romans occupy their own home?!

    • Shmuel
      Shmuel
      November 19, 2013, 3:01 am

      By the way, the legend on Bennett’s coin is written in the Phoenician alphabet, which “proves” (at least by Bennett’s numismatic standards) that the ancient Judeans were in fact … occupiers!

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra
        November 19, 2013, 5:12 am

        Greetings Shmuel,
        ….Bennett’s coin is written in the Phoencian alphabet……

        The Phoencians pave the way for us Euros & the peoples
        in the ME 1050BC after cuneiform of the Sumerians.
        The ancient Pharisees scribes used Cuneiform or later
        Greek before completing their Hebrew alphabeth in
        100BC!!! ( which is when they produced their vowels.)
        They were able to write their consonants in 1000BC,
        but had to verbalize their vowels which wasn’t very
        helpful in writing for prosperity which they didn’t.
        Their written Talmud, taken from the oral Talmud
        was drummed up after 536BC in Babylonia taken
        from the Antagonists & Deeds of the Cuneiform bricks
        of the Sumerians accomplishments & were thus Judaised.
        Two of which were the Sumerian portagonists Noah & Abraham!
        ziusudra

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        November 19, 2013, 7:24 am

        There’s a book by Gitler and Tal (too expensive for me) on the earliest coinage of Palestine, imported or imitated from Greece, centuries earlier than the one produced by Mr. B. The Oxford History of the Biblical World, a paperback I could afford, describes (p.311) the Yehud quarter-shekel, now in the British Museum, whose semi-pagan iconography is yet another illustration of the fact that ancient Palestine was highly multicultural, historically connected with Jewish and with many other people. And if Mr.B. thinks that you can’t steal something that once belonged to some of your ancestors he is mistaken.

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel
        November 19, 2013, 7:50 am

        And if Mr.B. thinks that you can’t steal something that once belonged to some of your ancestors he is mistaken.

        This is the missing rationale we discussed on another thread. The myths and the archaeology and the liturgy and the language and the faith and the messianic hopes are all fine, but how do they translate into “generally recognised principles of morality” (as you so succinctly put it)?

        Bennett was preaching to the choir, which feels somehow vindicated by such “props”, without realising that they are morally, legally and logically irrelevant.

  18. Walid
    Walid
    November 19, 2013, 2:58 am

    Just happened, double explosion 15 meters from Iranian Embassy in Beirut. 7 dead and 10 cars on fire with people inside them.

    • Walid
      Walid
      November 19, 2013, 4:15 am

      Number of dead still at 7 with 20 injured of which 4 need surgery. It’s being reported that 2 suicide bombers were involved. The first on motorbike tried to force his way into the Iranian Embassy but was shot by the Embassy’s security. The second in a car detonated the bomb.

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel
        November 19, 2013, 4:18 am

        Thanks, Walid. The reports are now starting to appear in the international press.

      • Walid
        Walid
        November 19, 2013, 4:40 am

        More details coming out. 2 suicide-driven cars involved. First tried to crash through the gate with the second one coming in behind him to detonate his bomb. The first detonated his bomb belt at the gate and the second in a car detonated 15 meters behind him. Iranian cultural attaché that happened to be entering the embassy was killed. Number of dead climbing towards 20 with over a hundred injured.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        November 19, 2013, 5:18 am

        @ Walid
        Number of dead is now at 22; consensus seems to be it’s a spillover from the proxy fighting in Syria–sending a message to Iranian-backed Hezbullah: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24997876

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        November 19, 2013, 5:21 am

        The bots and their allies always prefer the Lebanese cockpit. Zionist lives are sacred but Lebanese lives are expendable.

      • yrn
        yrn
        November 19, 2013, 7:41 am

        seafoid
        Iran backs the Hezbullah
        Hezbullah is fighting in Syria.
        So they attack the Iranian embassy
        Hezbullah is in Lebanon
        Iranian embassy is in Lebanon (sorry they don’t want an embassy in Jerusalem)
        So you don’t have to be a Genius to make the link don’t ye.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        November 19, 2013, 8:57 am

        who is ‘they’, yrn, as in ‘they attack the Iranian embassy’? and since SA and Israel are backing the Syrian mercenaries, and SA and Israel are spoiling for a war with Iran, maybe ‘they’ who attacked the Iranian embassy are sponsored by SA and/or Israel. ‘they’ (Israel and SA) have intelligence assets in Lebanon. it doesn’t take a genius to make the link.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        November 19, 2013, 3:08 pm

        Iran backs the Hezbullah
        Hezbullah is fighting in Syria.
        So they attack the Iranian embassy

        Try this.

        In 2009, the US and Iran were having nuclear talks and on the verge of the swap deal.

        The deal falls through but Turkey and Brazil revive it. Then Jundulla carries out a suicide attack against Iranian generals and the hard liners kill the deal.

        Now the P5+1 and Iran weer on the verge of a deal and this attack takes place a day before the talks start in Geneva.

        Kerry cancelled a visit to Israel because the relations with Israel are in such a bad state. Bibbi is desperate and more than capable fo organizing this attack with the Saudis.

      • Walid
        Walid
        November 19, 2013, 3:45 pm

        Shingo, your scenarion makes sense and most probably more dirty tricks along the way; tonight Israeli drone buzzed Beirut’s sky for an hour. Hizbullah served notice last month that any attack on it to dissuade it from fighting in Syria would only cause it to increase its manpower there tenfold. Drone probably sent in to monitor traffic flowing across the border into Syria.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        November 19, 2013, 4:05 pm

        Walid,

        The Israelis and Saudis have already signaled that they are willing to go it alone in their Iran policy, so this attack could have easily been organized with their combined resources.

        What matters now is how Iran responds . If the hard liners kill the talks, they will be playing right into SA and Israel ‘a hands.

        If however Iran don’t allow this to stop the deal, they could leverage it against France and the US. Remind them that they share a common enemy in AQ (aka SA).

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        November 19, 2013, 5:21 pm

        shingo, I doubt that SA and Israel are “willing to go it alone”. they are relying on the US obligation to intervene if Iran retaliates to an Israel/SA attack. or more likely, rely on Iran to understand that retaliation would result in US intervention. I personally think any joint SA/Israel effort against Iran would be the beginning of the end for SA royal degenerates.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        November 19, 2013, 5:40 pm

        I don’t disagree Marc.

        The whole going it alone trope is just a tantrum. Both know they are screwed without the US, but still believe they can act like spoiled brats because Daddy will always foot the bill and bail them out when they’re in trouble.

      • American
        American
        November 19, 2013, 5:56 pm

        Shingo says:
        November 19, 20
        Walid,

        The Israelis and Saudis have already signaled that they are willing to go it alone in their Iran policy,””>>>>>>>>

        Might have signaled but cant pull it off alone.
        The Sauds joined up with Isr *because* they hoped the Isr-Lobby influence could force O to attack.
        If they do attack it will be for the purpose of drawing the US in to do the full job.
        Why do you think they are wailing and flaying around and screaming and threatening still?
        They know they cant accomplish the whole job.
        They know the US knows they cant suceed alone.
        And they know the US knows that they know that we know they know they cant do it right.
        So the screaming and threatening panic show goes on and on.
        They mght finally try it—-but will be their last melt down full out panic resort.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        November 19, 2013, 7:57 pm

        Might have signaled but cant pull it off alone.

        True, but they can create a lot fo trouble and chaos. As has been reported, when Bandar tried to bribe Putin into backing the Saudi position in Syria, not only did he offer lucrative defense contracts, but he also he offered to protect the Winter Olympics (to be held in Russia) from any Al Qaeda type terror attack.

        So Bandar is willing to unleash his jihadist crazies to get his way. Combined with Israel’s ruthlessness, underhandedness and resourcefulness, there is no telling what the two of them could get up to.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        November 19, 2013, 9:01 pm

        If the Saudi authorities do cooperate with the Israelis in an attack on Iran, they will be risking a severe backlash from the Saudi people as well as destruction of their Oil industry on the Gulf coast.

        They could even have a mutiny in the Saudi military. I doubt that most members of the RSAF and RSADF would be happy to let the Israelis through.

        RSAF officers are professionals, often trained by the RAF. Middle ranking officers, at Group Captain and Wing Commander level are the ones most likely to lead a mutiny, and they are the ones the junior officers will listen to.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/goldbergs-war-drums.html#comment-226655

      • piotr
        piotr
        November 20, 2013, 12:04 am

        This is not a “message” but murder. Sometimes murder is just a murder.

      • piotr
        piotr
        November 20, 2013, 2:35 pm

        This horse is out of the barn. The folks variously called freedom fighters, taqfiris, Sunni extremists etc. are receiving a river of money, weapons and visa-free transit through Turkey, Turkey provides transit and modicum of regulation (primarily, they do not want activity inside Turkey), and Gulf monarchies provide the money.

        Clearly, in Lebanon they may receive money, weapons and itinerant volunteers from Syria, but also through other channels.

        It is an open question if a particular action follows instructions of Saudi intelligence or other sponsors, or it is personal initiative of taqfiris, and it makes only small difference.

        A separate crucial front is bribing governments to support taqfiris. What Erdogan government is doing seems stupid from the point of view of their own “moderate Islamic” ideology and electoral prospects, so I suspect that money did change hands to influence them. Bribing Western countries is more complicated, the exploits of taqfiris started to scare away many Western politicians. And you cannot simply wire money to politicians accounts. Hence lucrative defense contracts and so on. And bribing Russians or Chinese? If I had to have my guess, this would be bribing persons who freely decide how much they are worth, kind of a note with an infinite numeral. Putin or a top guy in China could replicate Luvre for private enjoyment, except that it would be somewhat detrimental to political stability, regardless if money come from Gazprom, Saudis or whatever.

  19. amigo
    amigo
    November 19, 2013, 6:36 am

    From a Haaretz article comparing Bennett with some allegedly moralistic Zionist General,

    “Apparently that is not the case with Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, who has said: “I’ve killed lots of Arabs in my life, and there’s no problem with that.” In other words, despite the killing he doesn’t suffer from sleeplessness or nightmares. Not the horrified look of a victim, not facial distortions of pain or astonishment, not a final tic followed by absolute quiet – none of those things disturb the minister’s sleep.”Haaretz

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.540964

    Why would Israel,s Jews give this criminal power over their lives.Are they suicidal or just too comfortable with their lives ,they don,t care about the atrocities being carried out by their chosen leaders in their names.

    Do they not know their train driver is drunk on power and greed and they are willingly going along for the ride.

    Bennett is pure slime and hopefully sane people will not listen to his insane outrages.

  20. piotr
    piotr
    November 19, 2013, 8:07 am

    Why are we informed about the most boring events at 92nd St Y? This sounds like more fun:

    Janis Spindel reveals the secrets to being successful in the dating world.

    Janis will address the common mistakes men and women make during and throughout the dating/relationship process. When you leave the lecture, you will never make the same mistakes again!

    Perhaps the most common mistake in NYC is dating a non-Jew, I wonder if it was included in the lecture. Does Mondoweiss have a correspondent who would tell us about it? It would be interesting to know if it was discussed as a mistake, and if it was not.

  21. agatharchides
    agatharchides
    November 19, 2013, 12:41 pm

    In any case, suitcase nukes don’t exist. Iran will certainly not be making one.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-12-suitcase-nuclear-bombs_N.htm

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      November 19, 2013, 8:10 pm

      “In any case, suitcase nukes don’t exist.”

      Don’t spoil a good scare with your boring facts.

  22. Shingo
    Shingo
    November 19, 2013, 3:01 pm

    Bennett admitted that Iran doesn’t want a nuclear weapon today. But he said they want one tomorrow.

    Did anyone pick this up? Bennet has admitted Iran is not making nukes and has confirmed what all 16 US intelligence agencies have been saying for years – that Iran has not even decided to pursue one.

    Bibbi must be outraged.

    • traintosiberia
      traintosiberia
      November 19, 2013, 11:34 pm

      Noises even if they contradicted,the earlier noises ,will usually be ignored since lies ,false propaganda with ulterior motive expressed as consensus ideas guiding the mind and the supporting emotion are already in place. If tomorrow Nathahyu comes out with the same statement ( as of Bennett) , chances are zero that Graham,McCian,Fabius,or US congress will change their mind or their wys of pressurizing Iran.Lobby ,now and then , for record will allow one of their siblings say things that goes against the focus ,desire,plans,or narrative of the core features of the lobby. Those sayings,comments,or observation sometimes may be cited ,used,and relentlessly mentioned as an example of the Isareli position , more so, if things would end up in disaster.
      Other day , I came upon an article that was crucifying the current Isareli position on Syria .The article ends by alluding to the cautionary warning by Sharon against attacking Iraq! It is very much possible that Sharon said something like this at some stage of the game that was already decided and mapped out with his input with his full knowledge of his own contribution and power of his effective pressure .

  23. Walid
    Walid
    November 19, 2013, 3:11 pm

    Highlights of the offer to be made to Iran tomorrow:
    1. That Iran stops 20% enrichment at its Fordow plant located deep under the mountain near Qom. Bombs can’t get to this plant.

    2. That Iran “dis-enrich” its current stock of 195 kilos of 20% enriched by 50% to take it back down to the commercial grade 3.5%. Asking for only half is a comprise by the West.

    3. That Iran stop work on the completion of the heavy water reactor at Arak that is only a few months away from completion. No objection to Iran continuing work on ancillary plants to Arak.

    4. That Iran accepts unrestricted inspections at all its plants. Last month it had categorically rejected this demand.

    If Iran accepts all these conditions, several economic sanctions will be lifted.The US president will release about $20 billion of Iran’s frozen cash in the US and the Europeans will also participate by lifting the embargos on Iran’s importing of gold, precious metals, petrochemicals. Embargos to be also lifted on European companies, especially Lloyds that would be allowed to insure Iran’s tankers.Most important of all, the embargo on oil will be lifted.

    France will want to debate 2 points tomorrow:

    1. That the US not release more than $20 billions of Iran’s money.

    2. That the 3.5% enrichment by Iran have a set limit as to amount to be produced during the 6 month period.

    Negotiations on total lifting of sanction to take place in the next 6 months.

    http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/20131119.OBS6019/exclusif-nucleaire-les-dernieres-propositions-des-six-a-l-iran.html

    • Walid
      Walid
      November 19, 2013, 4:02 pm
    • Shingo
      Shingo
      November 19, 2013, 4:39 pm

      Yes that’s what I read to Walid,

      The other thing is that the Iranians are being very flexible. They insisted on their right to enrich being recognized and say they would be happy with a verbal recognition and that it did not even have to be in writing.

      • piotr
        piotr
        November 20, 2013, 3:02 pm

        I suspect that the enrichment program is a gigantic gambit, they truly do not need it, but they need a free access to conventional weapon technologies and other technologies — for industry and defense. This access was under sanctions from the time of the revolution, using concepts like “the list of terrorist states”.

        Iranian leaders can be flexible or obstinate dependent on their strategy. Clearly, a political faction that delivers some goodies to the citizens can increase its influence, and now the West have a choice: support the relative liberals, or go back to hardliners. Rouhani may be just a face for Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, but of course, he is much more than that, as Khamenei does not run the state affairs on day-to-day basis.

        In some paradoxical way, a partial theocracy like Israel can be much less rational then a complete theocracy like Iran. Israeli theocrats have a rather limited influence, and thus they can afford to be complete nuts. And mundane politicians are not much better as they enter some weird competitions who is more messianic then the rest of them.

  24. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    November 19, 2013, 5:51 pm

    Q: “If a decade from now, God forbid, a nuclear suitcase blows up in an American city, we will be able to trace it back to these days,”

    R: …and also know who poisoned Arafat, although that doesn’t kill anyone…

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