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The news out of Hollywood is that Gal Gadot, an Israeli model/actress, will be playing Wonder Woman in a “Man of Steel” sequel due out next year:

[Director Zack] Snyder praised Gadot as an “amazing” actress who possesses “that magical quality that makes her perfect for the role.”

The Jerusalem Post is excited about the news. Abe Novick writes:

miracle of miracles, this new Wonder Woman is no shiksa goddess. Gadot was a 2004 Miss Universe contestant from Israel and was in three of the “Fast & Furious” franchise films, which just recently lost one of its costars Paul Walker. She also served in the Israeli army for two years as a fitness instructor and according to “Fast & Furious” director and producer Justin Lin, when he learned of this he went and altered the character’s back-story to a Mossad agent.

Zack Snyder is like the opposite of BDS, a full-employment program for Israeli actresses. He swapped out a British actress for an Israeli one 2 years ago.

Previously, Russell Crowe and Julia Ormond held the roles of [Superman’s mother and father], but new reports reveal that Ormond has been replaced by Israeli actress Ayelet Zurer….

Deadline broke the news of Zurer’s casting, but was unable to cite a reason for director Zack Snyder’s last-minute substitution.

I don’t know Snyder’s reason either. But I have to wonder. He directed “300,” a medieval historical flick that was seen by folks across the Middle East as promoting war with Iran–though Snyder denied that had entered his mind. John Burke at Nieman Watchdog:

300 seen as a tool to work up anti-Iran sentiment

The movie draws much attention and scorn, its East v. West theme is seen as Hollywood joining the Bush administration in the march to Tehran.

…The big screen blockbuster, 300, has raised concern around the world, not only for its subject matter, the battle between Spartans and Persians at Thermopylae in 480 BC in which the Persians play the “villain”, but for the timing of its release….

Critics everywhere have pointed out the parallels between its plot and the actual diplomatic crisis, have called the depiction of the Persians as blatant propaganda, and have linked neo-conservative ideals to that of the film’s Spartan army.

 

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  1. Woody Tanaka
    Woody Tanaka
    December 9, 2013, 1:20 pm

    “miracle of miracles, this new Wonder Woman is no shiksa goddess”

    Someone aught to kick Abe Novick in the nuts for using this disgusting, bigoted, sexist slur.

    [Director Zack] Snyder praised Gadot as an “amazing” actress who possesses “that magical quality that makes her perfect for the role.”

    This just shows that Snyder’s a moron (if this is true.) Galot is a horrible actress who is wrong for the part.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      December 9, 2013, 4:11 pm

      this new Wonder Woman is no shiksa goddess

      Pleased to see that casual racism lives and thrives in the Jewish community, to this day.
      What’s next? Some demographic fear-mongering about the prospect of her finding a dangerously attractive goy on film set and starting a relationship?

      After all, do we want her to go down the path of Bar Refaeli?

    • goldmarx
      goldmarx
      December 10, 2013, 12:53 pm

      Woody: Sure, after we hang you by your family jewels for calling European Jews thieves and rapists.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 10, 2013, 3:40 pm

        goldmax,

        Typical that you’d jump in to defend such a vile racist and sexist slur.

        And nowhere have I ever made any such claim. Certainly those European Jews who invaded Palestine with the intent of stealing the land from the Palestinians were of course thieves. You might also call them, rhetorically, rapists of the land, for sure.

        But you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to lump those criminals in with the European Jews who never did anything wrong.

        So I guess we can add “liar” and. “bigot” to the words used to describe you.

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        December 10, 2013, 5:55 pm

        for calling European Jews thieves and rapists.

        What are you yapping about you deluded moron?
        Give us a quote where Woody said anything like that.

        Also, interesting that you completely skipped the racial slur used by Abe.
        A failure to condemn is a silent approval.

      • goldmarx
        goldmarx
        December 11, 2013, 12:06 pm

        Krauss: There was no ‘failure to condemn’. I was simply pointing out Tanaka’s hypocrisy in going after one bigot without taking a look into the mirror.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 11, 2013, 12:40 pm

        “Krauss: There was no ‘failure to condemn’.”

        Really? Then please show where you condemned Novick for his racist, sexist statement…

        ” I was simply pointing out Tanaka’s hypocrisy in going after one bigot without taking a look into the mirror.”

        LMAO. Oh, I look in the mirror quite a bit. And as I’ve said repeatedly here, I’m all for everyone, from the Med to the Jordan, to have absolute equality, with all civil, political, and human rights and equal access to the vote, without regard to ethnicity or religion.

        Can you see the same?? Or do you favor an ethno-religious Apartheid state, simply because the top dogs in this particular situation happen to be of your ethnicity. So, instead, you lie about me, which is stupid, given my statements praising everyone Israelis, Europeans, Americans, Jews or otherwise, who are fighting to end the oppression of the Palestinians.

        If I condemn a European Jew who is a thief or a rapist, the condemnation is for the thievery or the rape, nothing else, and I would condemn the same thief regardless of his nationality, citizenship, ethnicity and religion. And you’re a craven liar if you claim otherwise.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 11, 2013, 4:01 pm

        “Krauss: There was no ‘failure to condemn’.”

        Really? Then please show where you condemned Novick for his racist, sexist statement…

        ” I was simply pointing out Tanaka’s hypocrisy in going after one bigot without taking a look into the mirror.”

        LMAO. Oh, I look in the mirror quite a bit. And as I’ve said repeatedly here, I’m all for everyone, from the Med to the Jordan, to have absolute equality, with all civil, political, and human rights and equal access to the vote, without regard to ethnicity or religion.

        Can you see the same?? Or do you favor an ethno-religious Apartheid state, simply because the top dogs in this particular situation happen to be of your ethnicity. So, instead, you lie about me, which is stupid, given my statements praising everyone Israelis, Europeans, Americans, Jews or otherwise, who are fighting to end the oppression of the Palestinians.

        If I condemn a European Jew who is a thief or a rapist, the condemnation is for the thievery or the rape, nothing else, and I would condemn thieves and rapists regardless of his nationality, citizenship, ethnicity and religion.

  2. dimadok
    dimadok
    December 9, 2013, 2:29 pm

    But, but I thought that the suppose target of BDS should be Israeli institutions or officials within?
    Or just because she’s Israeli Jewish woman it gets you attention?

    • annie
      annie
      December 9, 2013, 2:49 pm

      there was a tad of a firestorm of response to this casting on twitter because apparently one prominent distinguishing feature of wonder woman, according to comic experts, is she is supposed to be an amazon. whereas gadot is tiny. so there was more than a bit of ‘why her?’ criticism.

      she is cute tho. i’ve never heard of her or seen her act tho. there was a lot made of her being in the iof, but all jewish israelis have to do that so it’s not that remarkable. it’s not like holding a gun and being in an occupying army in real life qualifies someone to be a wonder woman. the opposite actually because of the moral component.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        December 9, 2013, 3:41 pm

        she is cute tho. i’ve never heard of her or seen her act tho.

        I have been drawn into this movie, video game, superhero world by my kids. gadot isn’t much of an actress from what I’ve seen, despite what snyder says (although my daughter did cry in public when her character died in ‘Fast 6’). for what it’s worth, there is more than a handful of ‘actresses’ who would seemingly be better suited for the part, including gina carano. although if it’s cardboard you (not ‘you’ personally) want, Affleck is the perfect pairing for gadot.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 9, 2013, 5:35 pm

        Seriously does this look like Wonder Woman?

        http://tinyurl.com/lcrwnq7

        I know it’s unfair to compare her to Linda Carter, who was born for the part, but come on!

        As one poster put it, where are the uhumm…wonders?

      • just
        just
        December 9, 2013, 6:54 pm

        exactamundo.

        Lynda Carter was superbly cast. This woman is beautiful, but it takes more than beauty for the part, imho.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 6:33 am

        “This woman is beautiful, but it takes more than beauty for the part, imho.”

        So she’s just a 32B, does it mean that she should be disregarded? Angelina went from 36C (padded to make them 36D in Lara Croft) to 36 period and she still looks great.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 6:58 am

        So she’s just a 32B, does it mean that she should be disregarded?

        Short answer yes.

        Angelina went from 36C (padded to make them 36D in Lara Croft) to 36 period and she still looks great.

        Angelina was never anorexic.

      • OlegR
        OlegR
        December 9, 2013, 4:12 pm

        She is 1.75 m that’s hardly tiny for a woman.
        Besides size never stopped dudes like Tom Cruise to act in action
        movies.

        Never seen her act either though.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 9, 2013, 5:14 pm

        “She is 1.75 m that’s hardly tiny for a woman.”

        Wonder Woman isn’t supposed to be just some woman. That’s part of the character.

        “Besides size never stopped dudes like Tom Cruise to act in action
        movies.”

        Nonsense. The fact that Cruise is as short and small as he is was one reasons, if not the reason, why the Jack Reacher film failed to meet expectations. Because the character is not some small little dude like Cruise. Same here.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 9, 2013, 5:25 pm

        She is 1.75 m that’s hardly tiny for a woman.

        That’s not tall and she looks anorexic.

        Besides size never stopped dudes like Tom Cruise to act in action movies.

        Tom Cruise never played superman either, but it is true that being short was never a problem for on screen actors.

        Still, the thing about the WW character is that she’s so iconic. Unlike Batman and Spiderman, WW and Superman are two characters that require very specific physical attributes.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 6:48 am

        “she looks anorexic”

        Last week, we dragged the corpse of a long-dead maestro over the coals for having been an Israel-freak, or something along those lines. This week it’s the turn of an Israeli starlet because she doesn’t have big boobs. Can’t wait for next week’s artist.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 7:04 am

        I don’t know why you are being so argumentative Walid.

        The role is for an iconic superhero comic book character who’s associated with having a large bust, hips and who looks like she can kick the asses of bad guys. This girl doesn’t have an of that, which is no criticism of her (he is beautiful) but she doesn’t fit the part.

        Like I said, it makes as much sense as casting Justin Bieber or Pewee Herman for the Hulk.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 10, 2013, 7:07 am

        Oh, give it a rest. There is no connection between that story and this. (And calling this woman an “artist” is a stretch, considering how bad she is at her supposed art. I saw her in an interview once and she wasn’t even believable as herself). The fact is that Ms. Occupation Nation is so wrong for this part and brings nothing, acting-wise, to the table, that it begs the question of why she was chosen for such a high profile part.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 7:51 am

        Relax, Shingo and Woody, I’m just having a bit of fun.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 8:01 am

        Thanks Walid,

        Wow, she’s a worse actress than I could have imagined.

      • annie
        annie
        December 10, 2013, 8:50 am

        This week it’s the turn of an Israeli starlet because she doesn’t have big boobs.

        walid, this is the 2nd time you’ve injected boobs into this critique. what’s with that? i said amazon, not big boobs. just said ” it takes more than beauty for the part” and you mention her bra size? shingo says anorexic and for some reason you’re reducing all these critiques to boobs. why is that? boobs was the last thing on my mind. i meant muscle, stature. wonder woman is an icon representing an force of power and this actress is more of a pixie character. she’d be more believable as peter pan or tinkerbell. maybe she can transform herself, who knows. but ignoring what people are saying and pretending this is some obsession about boobs is disingenuous. at least deal w/the critiques put forward.

        and this clip you’ve posted does reflect what i’m talking about. she lacks stature. whereas an actress like uma thurman does not have big boobs (as i recall) and she can seriously throw weight around in fight scenes, has muscle and stature. that’s what i mean. not boobs. someone who could look physically threatening if they’re an adversary.

        and another thing, it’s not what men think of her, it’s what women think, that’s who wonder woman is representing.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        December 10, 2013, 8:59 am

        This week it’s the turn of an Israeli starlet because she doesn’t have big boobs.

        I agree walid. first mildly unpleasant things were said about a dead conductor, and now this metaphorical lynching of a fashion model. oh when will the persecution of former miss universe contestants end?!

      • miriam6
        miriam6
        December 10, 2013, 9:03 am

        Face it Annie – Walid is a confirmed ‘boob’ man.

        After all – every one of his comments on here on m.w represents one giant ‘boob’ after another..

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        December 10, 2013, 9:27 am

        Walid is never booby; and in any case, being a boob is still by far better than a ziobutbot.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        December 10, 2013, 9:44 am

        here’s a clip of gina carano, annie.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UTRX8SajY

        now that’s acting.

      • annie
        annie
        December 10, 2013, 1:19 pm

        Gina Joy Carano (born April 16, 1982) is an American actress, television personality, fitness model, and former mixed martial artist. Carano began her training with straight Muay Thai to competitive MMA where she had tenures in organizations such as Strikeforce and EliteXC and has been featured in ESPN The Magazine as well as Maxim. Her popularity with fans and audiences has helped her garner the title of being the “Face of Women’s MMA”[1] and was ranked on the “Top Ten Influential Women of 2008” list on Yahoo![2]
        She was formerly the third best 145 lb (66 kg) fighter in the world, according to the Unified Women’s MMA Rankings.[3][4] On August 2009, Carano would also headline Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg with Cristiane Santos, which marked the first time two women headlined a major MMA event.[5] As a competitive fighter, her standings consists of a 12-1-1 Muay Thai record and a 7-1 WMMA record. [6]

        ouch!

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        December 10, 2013, 1:26 pm

        That about Cruise is so true! My son is a Lee Child fan, but was absolutely dismayed by that casting. He says he’ll be unable to watch even if it’s on tv. Simply cannot wrap his head around that twerpy shrimp* in the part!

        * He knows plenty of shrimps who are not twerps – including his best mate since the age of 3.

      • tree
        tree
        December 10, 2013, 1:46 pm

        Walid,

        Being anorexic has nothing to do with not having “big boobs”. With plastic surgery these days even anorexic models can have a D cup. Being anorexic has to do with having no discernible fat OR MUSCLE. Seeing the picture Shingo posted, its obvious that Gadot is anorexic. If you can drag your eyesight away from the boobs and the face, look at the stick-like arms and legs on her. There is no indication of any musculature on either her arms or legs. Her face may be attractive, but she doesn’t have the body for playing Wonder Woman. One has to wonder about the reasons for casting her. It would be exactly like casting some good looking guy with no muscles to play Superman.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        December 10, 2013, 2:39 pm

        @ annie

        unfortunately carano got her clock cleaned by ‘cyborg’ and her medicine chest. no ‘boob’ pun intended.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 4:40 pm

        tree, everyone here is clamoring for an Amazon-like woman with big boobs to play the role of WW. The one that would qualify the most, and nobody caught the pun, is Angelina Jolie. This is because the definition of an Amazon is a woman that has cut off her breast so she could better aim her bow and arrow. Wiki has a long article on the women warriors; here’s the part about the boobs:

        “… Among Classical Greeks, amazon was given a popular etymology as from a-mazos “without breast”, connected with an etiological tradition that Amazons had their right breast cut off or burnt out, so they would be able to throw their javelins…”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons

        Since Angelina Jolie has already done away with not one but with 2 boobs, that would make her a super Amazon.

        Now Annie will really think I’m a pervert.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 4:56 pm

        Wrong miriam, I’m really I’m a face man. Boobs are way down at the bottom of the list.

      • annie
        annie
        December 10, 2013, 5:46 pm

        no i don’t think (for a second!) you’re a pervert walid. you’re too cool for that.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 5:56 pm

        Thanks, Annie.

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        December 10, 2013, 6:00 pm

        Thanks Walid,

        Wow, she’s a worse actress than I could have imagined.

        Hilarious :D

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 6:14 pm

        tree, everyone here is clamoring for an Amazon-like woman with big boobs to play the role of WW

        I think what they are channeling for is someone who fits the profile of a comic book hero.

        The Hulk is expected to be a green, muscle bound Neanderthal, not a vegan yoga instructor.

        WW was clearly intended to represent a fantasy. I’m not saying it’s right or appropriate, it just is what it is.

      • tree
        tree
        December 10, 2013, 6:19 pm

        tree, everyone here is clamoring for an Amazon-like woman with big boobs to play the role of WW.

        You seem to still be clinging to the idea that the opposite of anorexic is big boobed. Its not. And no one is calling for a big boobed woman, just a woman with sufficient heft and muscularity to fit the Wonder Woman type. (This may come as a shock to you, but boobs are made of fat, not muscle. That’s when they aren’t made of silicone, of course.)

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 8:27 pm

        Carano is impressive but I am not sure she would be all that great a candidate.

        Look, there are very few actors that would suit this role. They have to be beautiful, sexy, athletic, charismatic, they have to be accomplished actors and they have to have a magical quality that connects with the audience.

        Look at Henry Cavill in Man of Steel. I cannot imagine more perfect casting He’s an amazing looking man who closely fits the comic book illustrations, but above all he’s an very accomplished actor and demonstrated a breath and depth of emotion in his performance. The expectation would have been enormous, and yet he played a tough guy with a soul who appealed to both men and women.

        I don’t think there is any requirement for actors playing super heros to be all that skilled at fighting these days. They just need to have the appearance of someone who could conceivably pull it off.

        Digital doubles have not only replaced the need for actors to do their own stunts, but for any stunt doubles at all – especially in these kinds of action flicks where they have to pull off impossible feats at frenetic speeds.

        Today’s Audience expectations about feats of superhuman prowess are off the charts and made it impossible for even the most amazing elite athletes/fighters/gymnasts to satisfy expectation.

        99% of the fight scenes in Superman and Spider-Man were almost entirely CG, with no sets or actors involved.

        Long gone are the days where Linda Carter can throw a punch and convince the audience that she had powers beyond those of mere mortals.

        It doesn’t matter how bad ass Gina Carano might be, the minute she throws a punch or a kick, she becomes human. The action in this clip might satisfy the realism of the Bourne movies, but WW will be expected to do that to 4 or 5 guys at the same time.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 8:47 pm

        I agree Annie,

        But anyone who went to watch Kill Bill did not have any expectation of what the Uma Thurman character is supposed to look like. A martial arts master can be any shape or size.

        The sad reality is that WW has to be both a warrior and tick the boxes in terms of a man’s fantasy. So she has to be both tough and nails while also displaying huge amounts of sex appeal, femininity and vulnerability.

        That’s why so few would be suited to the role. Again, I refer to Henry Cavill’s performance in Man of Steel. He was a hunk but humble, amazing looking and yet a geek, powerful and yet vulnerable and tender.

        And in order for this to transfer to the screen, you have a truck load of charisma and acting talent.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      December 9, 2013, 3:04 pm

      “But, but I thought that the suppose target of BDS should be Israeli institutions or officials within?”

      As far as I’m concerned, it should be anyone, israeli or not, that supports the oppression of the Palestinians. This woman not only joins the israeli terror squads, but does cheesecake propaganda photos, and had not used her notoriety to fight for the liberation of Palestine. BDS’ing her and this movie is appropriate.

      “Or just because she’s Israeli Jewish woman it gets you attention?”

      What does the fact that she’s Jewish matter? She’s an abettor of the oppression of the Palestinian people and she should be condemned accordingly. Her religion is irrelevant.

      • OlegR
        OlegR
        December 10, 2013, 6:53 am

        That’s what i like in MW.
        The constant foxus on the important stuff.No stone unturned.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 7:00 am

        That’s what keeps you coming back obviously Oleg.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 10, 2013, 10:05 am

        >> The constant foxus on the important stuff.No stone unturned.

        “foxus” – nicely done.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 10, 2013, 5:58 pm

        Don’t fox around with his foxus, Eljay.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      December 9, 2013, 4:18 pm

      Or just because she’s Israeli Jewish woman it gets you attention?

      No it’s because she’s anorexic and a lousy actress, albeit a beautiful girl.

      She’s supposed to have curves, a bust and a booty and Gadot has none of these.

      Wonder Woman is supposed to be an Amazinian Princess who can send men across the room with a punch. I am sure they could have found a dozen other women far more suitable for the role – even other Israeli women.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 10, 2013, 10:06 am

        >> She’s supposed to have curves, a bust and a booty and Gadot has none of these.

        Ummm…she definitely has all of those attributes. :-)

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 10, 2013, 6:57 pm

        I beg differ Eljay,

        You could put Olive Oil in that pose and she would look curvaceous. That’s a chassic pose in boudoir photography.

    • Cliff
      Cliff
      December 10, 2013, 8:39 am

      Nah, she doesn’t fit the part dim.

      They should have gotten Jaimie Alexander.

  3. Walid
    Walid
    December 9, 2013, 2:34 pm

    Great-looking gal.

  4. Shingo
    Shingo
    December 9, 2013, 2:57 pm

    I actually worked with Zak Snyder on some of his movies (300, Sucker Punch and Legend of the Guardians) and have to say I never picked up on any felt that he was biased towards Israeli actresses.

    None of the actresses in Sucker Punch featured any Israeli actresses. None of the roles in Legend of the Guardian were Israelis either. Not aware of any on 300.

    I found him to be pretty nice guy.

    Still, the casting of Gal Gadot is a joke. One has to wonder who made the decision – but I suspect it was industry execs not Snyder. The fact that Snyder made a glowing statement about her might have been something he was called upon to do for publicity.

    You should read the comments over at Huffington Post in response to this. Out fo the hundreds of comments, only one was positive.

    One of my favorites was that they would not be casting Justin Beiber as the Hulk.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      December 9, 2013, 4:21 pm

      I actually worked with Zak Snyder

      Now you’re obligated to tell us more. How did this come about, how was the work itself, I’m guessing you’re doing technical work on the film set?

      Still, the casting of Gal Gadot is a joke.
      One of my favorites was that they would not be casting Justin Beiber as the Hulk.

      Could there have been better actresses for the role? Sure. But she fits the ethnographic profile. Dark hair, slender, brown eyes. The Bieber/Hulk comparison is not valid at all.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 9, 2013, 5:09 pm

        “But she fits the ethnographic profile.”

        Not really.

        “Dark hair, slender, brown eyes.”

        Wonder Woman is not slender. She’s tall, muscular, athletic and not a frail, wispy model-type. Further, Wonder Woman has blue eyes, not brown.

        “The Bieber/Hulk comparison is not valid at all.”

        Actually, it’s pretty funny. But a better one would be Bieber as Thor.

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        December 10, 2013, 6:03 pm

        [Fitting the ethnographic profile]Not really.

        She kind of does. White, dark hair. Blue/brown eyes is a minor detail.

        Wonder Woman is not slender. She’s tall, muscular, athletic and not a frail, wispy model-type. Further, Wonder Woman has blue eyes, not brown.

        She kind of is. At least this is how she’s been cast by real actors before:
        http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16000000/lynda-wonder-woman-16087419-1494-1007.jpg

        That woman is not really muscular. She’s definitely slim. Not as slim as Gadot, but certainly not muscular/buff.

        [The Bieber/Hulk comparison is not valid at all]Actually, it’s pretty funny. But a better one would be Bieber as Thor.

        Funny is not the same thing as valid/realistic comparison. After all, a lot of humor is based on hyperbole.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 11, 2013, 7:12 am

        “That woman is not really muscular. She’s definitely slim. Not as slim as Gadot, but certainly not muscular/buff.”

        I think that point might have been relevant if I objected because she didn’t look like Lynda Carter. The character, as depicted in the art, is definitely tall, muscular and athletic and not a frail, wispy, model-type like this woman. (And my “muscular” I mean it in an athletic, and not extreme body-builder way.)

        “Funny is not the same thing as valid/realistic comparison. After all, a lot of humor is based on hyperbole.”

        True, but that’s partly why I think the comparison to Thor is better. (Mostly because the Hulk, as conceived in the art, has a physique that no human being could have, so it would be an unfair comparison to any actor.) The character has certain physical attributes that are not shared by someone like Justin Beiber, the same here with regard to WW/Gidot.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        December 9, 2013, 5:20 pm

        How did this come about, how was the work itself, I’m guessing you’re doing technical work on the film set?

        I worked on 3D effects and 3D animation. In Montreal for 300 and Sydney for the other 2 films. Given how effects laden films are these days, a lot of the film making takes place in the computer so you are working closely with the director.

        Snyder was pleasant, easy going, laid back and very LA, if you know what I mean.

        But she fits the ethnographic profile. Dark hair, slender, brown eyes.

        The profile also requires WW be an Amazonian warrior princess and physical attributes obvious in the mountain of comic book illustrations is a profile Gadot most certainly does not meet.

        My choice woudl have been the Bond girl, Berenice Marlohe. Stunning woman, tall, shapely and a superb actress.

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        December 10, 2013, 5:17 am

        “Could there have been better actresses for the role?”

        To stay in the model category Kate Upton looks a much more convincing WW. And SHE is cute..

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        December 10, 2013, 6:29 pm

        Lmfao, Kate Upton. She’s a Marilyn Monroe carbon copy, though. But a dark-haired, fierce woman? No. She’s buxom but not very muscular/fit.

        Also, it’s not just about the physique. The girl has to project strength too. Think Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider (or really any movie she is in).

        Does Kate Upton have that natural charisma and confidence? No.
        And we don’t even know if she can act(probably not).

    • annie
      annie
      December 9, 2013, 6:46 pm

      One of my favorites was that they would not be casting Justin Beiber as the Hulk.

      lol! that’s funny.

      • just
        just
        December 9, 2013, 6:55 pm

        it is really funny.

  5. MRW
    MRW
    December 9, 2013, 3:20 pm

    Wonder Woman was a Mossad agent? Oh, that’s going to go over with Middle America, bigtime. Not.

    • just
      just
      December 9, 2013, 7:07 pm

      sadly, I don’t think they’d mind a bit…..

      Is she gonna don the red, white and blue outfit and belt and boots of the original made in the US? I ask because her outfit spangled with stars was based on the US flag.

      Maybe they will be another kind of star and a lighter shade of blue.

  6. Krauss
    Krauss
    December 9, 2013, 4:18 pm

    Critics everywhere have pointed out the parallels between its plot and the actual diplomatic crisis, have called the depiction of the Persians as blatant propaganda, and have linked neo-conservative ideals to that of the film’s Spartan army.

    While the first part of that quote is correct, it’s simply hilarious to state that 300 is somehow a “neocon” movie. The Spartans acted in self-defence against an overwhelmingly more powerful enemy who invaded their homeland.

    Neocons are often agitating towards offensive wars. Its certainly true that the movie may have been seen as a tool for war, but the movie itself, it’s themes, are not neoconservative. There’s more than a slight hint of “The civilized West vs the barbarious Arabs/Persians/Middle Easterners”, however, so if anything the right frame to view it is through Huntington’s “Clash of the Civilizations” hypothesis.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      December 9, 2013, 5:22 pm

      Well, when the movie came out, I remember conservatives from all types, including the neocons, were salivating over it, claiming it as a statement of their ideals. For what it’s worth, I found the movie laughably campy, extremely racist, but with some interesting visuals and a very psychedelic-comic-book feel to it.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      December 9, 2013, 7:00 pm

      300 was based on a comic book and came out roughly the same time as Sin City, so there was a trend towards stylizes illustrative renderings and color grading.

      This idea that it was anti Persian is a little silly. Did the Germans complain when “Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow” came out?

      Anyway, I remeber when V came out and the necons and republican were outraged. They were also outraged at the sub text in “Phantom Menace” and “Avatar”.

      I remember when I was working on Legend of the Guards (a Snyder movie that flopped) and some nut case had posted a Youtube clip that claimed the movie was filled with occult symbolism because it was about owls.

      I mean seriously, WFT?

      There are obviously some propaganda movies and others that are just movies.

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        December 10, 2013, 6:43 pm

        There are obviously some propaganda movies and others that are just movies.

        Sure. Although every movie – or at least most movies – are informed by the political and social convictions of their creator(s). So I’d argue most movies are political to some extent.

        A lot of conservatives thought the last Dark Knight movie in the Batman triology had a lot of conservative themes, and I tend to agree.
        V for Vendetta had a very strong populist message, but I’d hesitate to call it left-wing. You could call it libertarian as well.

        But then there are outright propaganda movies, which are not that many, but Avatar could to some extent be classified as one, although it’s propaganda I mostly agree with.

        Well, when the movie came out, I remember conservatives from all types, including the neocons, were salivating over it, claiming it as a statement of their ideals. For what it’s worth, I found the movie laughably campy, extremely racist, but with some interesting visuals and a very psychedelic-comic-book feel to it.

        Yes, I think the movie had excellent timing. The West vs Iran meme was heating up, so they saw it as useful. On the other hand, I doubt Znyder had this mastermind plan of pushing for war against Iran. I think it was merely the neocons trying to hijack the movie for their gains. Very political people see openings everywhere, whether you’re a leftist or a rightist.

        Was the movie “extremely racist”, though? It wasn’t very deep, that’s for sure, but every movie has to be judged on its own merits and what it set out to do. 300 was a stylistic movie in many ways and it had a very unique style, then as now, as well as highly entertaining. I thought it was a good movie, so long as you didn’t compare it to masterpieces like the Godfather (I) or similar movies, but 300 was never intended to be such a movie. Just like, say, Forest Gump was never intended to be incredibly serious, but more of a casual comedy. Judge each film on its merits.

        One thing that caught my eye was the surprising amount of North Europeans in 300. I remember I felt it was a bit out of place to have a bunch of fair-haired Germanics in Greece. I don’t think it was intentional, its just those are the actors available. Then again, Alexander the Great was widely reported to have been blonde and/or ruddy-haired by historical accounts and there were many Germanic peoples moving into Greece during many centuries at that stage, so it might have been more plausible than we think.

        As for their portrayal of Persians; someone has to play the bad guy. So I guess Persians are not seen as multi-dimensional characters, but so aren’t a lot of villains in most action movies. I didn’t find anything overtly racist against Persians. Of course the director took sides, with the Spartans, but how can you not? A 100,000+ army, an invader, vs a small group of 300 people. Even if you don’t believe the story is accurate, there’s never any doubt on whose side most people will be on.

  7. craig higgins
    craig higgins
    December 9, 2013, 6:32 pm

    I think the casting of Gal Gadot in this role certainly should raise some eyebrows as to whether it was done as a way of countering the effect of the BDS movement on the popular conscience, although obviously there’s no way to know if this is the case. As Shingo pointed out above, this decision is something that might’ve been made over Zack Snyder’s head and even if he did tap Gadot to play Wonder Woman for whatever his reasons such a high-profile gig would have had to probably clear any of a number of executives and/or producers involved with the upcoming film. Personally, I’m not going to see ‘Batman vs. Superman’ because of the questions raised in my mind in this particular regard. If the intent was to give Israel a smiling face on the silver screen then supporting the film by seeing it tacitly gives approval to future pro-Israel images and productions (ala more stuff like Brad Pitt’s love letter to the IDF in ‘World War Z’) coming out of the American entertainment industry. Of course, all the Wonder Women in the world in comic book film adaptations cannot stop the arrival of things like Max Blumenthal’s ‘Goliath’. The truth is still going to get out there regardless of whether anyone in Hollywood wants to toss a little hasbara into a few big-budget productions, and ultimately I would question whether such a strategy, assuming such a strategy even exists, would be an effective one.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      December 9, 2013, 7:06 pm

      I think the casting of Gal Gadot in this role certainly should raise some eyebrows as to whether it was done as a way of countering the effect of the BDS movement on the popular conscience

      I don’t think it’s that deep. You know what they say about the casting couch? Sometimes it’s as simple as the fact some studio exec is sleeping with the talent or has the hots for them.

      Of course, the likelyhood that this might be a propaganda ploy should not be dismissed. Let’s remember who the owner of Marvel Comics is – none other than Haim Saban.

      Perhaps one of those execs is a pro Israeli fanatic and pulled some strings, but we can already tell this film is going to be a flop (just like ‘World War Z’ was) so if the agenda is really an attempt to counter the effect of the BDS movement, it’s going to fail.

      • Ecru
        Ecru
        December 11, 2013, 9:12 am

        “Let’s remember who the owner of Marvel Comics is – none other than Haim Saban.”

        Yes I’m outing myself as a comic geek but, just for the sake of it – Wonder Woman’s a DC Comics character. ;)

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        December 11, 2013, 10:01 am

        “Let’s remember who the owner of Marvel Comics is – none other than Haim Saban.”

        Nope. The Walt Disney Company owns Marvel Comics.

  8. Ecru
    Ecru
    December 10, 2013, 1:05 am

    Yes I actually posted about this a couple of days back.

    Snyder has previously replaced a good actress with a lesser Israeli one in “Man of Steel,” though this may have been a decision by a suit higher up. Whoever’s responsible though the question remains, is this down to pure casting decisions, best actress etc. or is this a push to make Israel more presentable as the “face” of a major cinematic characters? On balance and considering how deeply Zionists have infiltrated Hollywood, I tend to suspect the latter.

    Mainly because this model has all the acting range of an Ikea wardrobe (actually that’s not fair – an Ikea wardrobe can at least open and close) and is in no way imaginable as WW. Sorry I read the comic (the best to be honest of the New 52) and no way does this waif work. The fact anyone can use the word “waif” of someone cast as WW should be a MASSIVE alarm in the first place. WW is an Amazonian warrior first and foremost. Yes she’s a princess too but she’s an AMAZON princess. Now it’s true actors can bulk up for a role, but you have to have the skeletal framework to hold it. Has anyone seen this girl?

    Maybe she can do it I could be wrong but I have my doubts. Especially since hearing defences such as “ah but she’s a superhero and magical so she doesn’t need to look strong.” Yes she does, it has to be believable on screen and unless you’re in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, a waif who can knock men through a stone wall isn’t really gonna cut it.

    So – she’s not a good actress, I haven’t come across anyone who tries to defend her on that front. She’s very skinny (she IS a model). She’s Israeli. She’s been cast ahead of much more suitable and established actresses (not necc. a bad thing). And the publicity’s already started to make use of her WaffenIDF background.

    I’m suspicious. And a movie I was looking forward to seeing I’ll now be boycotting simply because the doubts around her casting are too great. And this is the first time I have been concerned by casting to the point I’ll not see a film.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      December 10, 2013, 10:20 am

      ”On balance and considering how deeply Zionists have infiltrated Hollywood, I tend to suspect the latter.”

      I’m inclined to agree. I hadn’t heard of this ‘actress’ until about a week ago, but if the clip above is in any way representative of her ‘acting’, then I think we can safely say she ain’t no Cate Blanchett. Not that she needs to be for this role, but she does need to have at least minimal talent and presence, neither of which she appears to have. And while she’s certainly beautiful, she looks vacuous and empty – WW should be a woman of character. And that’s without going into her obvious lack of physical presence, as discussed previously.

      All in all, there’s really no reason whatsoever that Gadot should have got a part which doubtless every up and coming young actress in Hollywood was after. Or maybe there IS a reason?

  9. mcohen
    mcohen
    December 10, 2013, 5:39 am

    dammit phil and annie you just cost me $20 on a bet
    I said lets see how long it would take for mondoweiss to play the Gadot card.
    I lost………..you guys are fast and furious with the zing

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      December 10, 2013, 6:42 am

      “Gadot card”

      Pointing out she’s a crappy actress who’s wrong for the part is a “card”???

    • Cliff
      Cliff
      December 10, 2013, 8:40 am

      Who would you make this bet with? Your fellow golem/troll friends?

      • mcohen
        mcohen
        December 10, 2013, 3:09 pm

        Cliff says:
        December 10, 2013 at 8:40 am

        “Who would you make this bet with? Your fellow golem/troll friends?”

        “Fall off “must be your nickname

  10. Taxi
    Taxi
    December 10, 2013, 9:35 am

    Man of Zeal?

    Phil, why aren’t you writing about Bob Dylan’s recent racist slur:
    “If you got a slave master or [Ku Klux] Klan in your blood, blacks can sense that,” he was quoted as saying. “That stuff lingers to this day. Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood.”
    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/dec/02/bob-dylan-sued-racism-croatia

    • just
      just
      December 10, 2013, 10:26 pm

      Dylan is a vampire? wow. Really very weird statement coming from a very weird dude.

      he was once good, now he makes me weary at best.

      • Walid
        Walid
        December 11, 2013, 4:28 am

        Bloomberg’s take: In the cases of the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis, the singer named specific criminal organizations, not Americans or Germans as a whole.”

        And the claim against him in the French courts is due to his having erred in unjustly using the wholesale terms “Serbs” and “Croats” in the bloodthirstying analogy, Taxi. Can we say that this train of thought could also apply to our wholesale use of the word “Zionists”? Aside from the land-thieving Zionists that we know all too well here, there are others that paradoxically are fervent Zionists that are equally fervent supporters of the Palestinians’ cause, going out with them for the olive harvests or joining them in the demonstrations of Silwan and Sheikh Jarrah and so on, or probably others currently posting on MW that probably cringe every time we crucify Zionists collectively with disparaging adjectives. How to distinguish between the bad guys and the good guys, or is there really no difference, as is being demonstrated by the wholesale use of the term?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        December 11, 2013, 4:36 am

        Walid,

        At best, some zionists are misguided – but that’s a petty and unacceptable quantification for ethnic cleansing. The rest of the zonists?…. Well, just read my archives.

        How to distinguish between a bad nazi and a good nazi? That’s essentially a parallel to your last question – and the same answer applies to both questions.

        All zionists excuse, to varying degrees, the “necessity” of the Nakba.

      • Ecru
        Ecru
        December 11, 2013, 6:04 am

        @ Walid

        …there are others that paradoxically are fervent Zionists that are equally fervent supporters of the Palestinians’ cause…

        It’s easy to be a “fervent” supporter of a cause when you suspect it’s utterly hopeless and you’re in a position of power. The test will be if the Palestinians are ever allowed to come close to equality with Jews and I strongly suspect the vast majority of these “fervent supporters” at that point will join, happily and without a qualm, the other Zionists in oppressing a subjugated people.

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