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Mleeta (photo: Annie Robbins)

Mleeta,Lebanese resistance Museum and tourist attraction marking the location of the base that launched decisive battles where Hezbollah forces defeated Israel in 2000, ending the decades long Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon. Under the supervision of the Lebanese Association for Tourism and Heritage. (photo: Annie Robbins)

In a decision that could have diplomatic repercussions, Lebanon’s new government has agreed to a compromise policy statement giving all Lebanese citizens the irrefutable right to resist Israeli attacks and attempts to violate their sovereignty.

The language in the policy statement came after weeks of bitter dispute between the March 8th Alliance and March 14th Alliance  (respectively Hezbollah and Christian General Aoun versus political opponents former Prime Minister Saad Hariri’s Sunni-led party and Christian right-wingers) that Haaretz says “brought the government to the verge of collapse”.

Haaretz reports the policy statement “falls short of explicitly enshrining Hezbollah’s role in confronting Israel”, but the message is clear; ‘citizens’, not just the army, should be allowed to be armed for the sake of resisting external hostilities.

Lebanon ‘affirms right’ of citizens to resist Israel :

“Based on the state’s responsibility to preserve Lebanon’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity and the security of its citizens, the government affirms the duty of the state and its efforts to liberate the Shebaa Farms and Kfar Shouba Hills and the Lebanese part of Ghajar through all legitimate means,” the government statement said.

It also “affirms the right of Lebanese citizens to resist Israeli occupation and repel aggressions and recover occupied territory”.

Agreement on the declaration paves the way for Salam to put his government to a vote of confidence, almost exactly a year after he was first asked to try to put together a cabinet following the resignation of his predecessor, Najib Mikati.

The decision comes one day after rounds of Israeli artillery were fired into southern Lebanon, in an attack Israel says was retaliatory, stating they targeted “Hezbollah terror infrastructure” following a bombing on the border between the two countries.

Reportedly the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant has claimed responsibility for the blast but an Israeli spokesperson said the bombing had a “suspected Hezbollah connection”.

It’s been a busy week for Israel. Bombing Gaza in the south, relations with Jordan hitting rock bottom after the assassination of one of their judges on border, and now this skirmish with Lebanon. And all coming down during the final stages of the “framework agreement”, whose promise of continued negotiations become slimmer by the minute. Last week, even John Kerry “expressed skepticism that Israel and the Palestinians would even be able to agree on a framework.”

Meanwhile, hostilities continue.

Naharnet, Israelis Fire at ‘Suspects’ Near Border with Lebanon :

Israeli soldiers opened fire Saturday at “suspects” who approached the border with Lebanon, a military spokeswoman said.

“A certain number of suspects approached the Israel-Lebanon border. Soldiers fired in the air to warn them away, and they moved off,” she said.

No one was injured, she added.

An Agence France Presse correspondent in northern Israel said the “suspects” were apparently shepherds who approached the border by mistake.

Media said the incident happened near the village of Ghajar, not far from the disputed Shebaa Farms area.

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  1. just
    just
    March 15, 2014, 8:35 pm

    All I can say is..

    It’s fair in the face of state sanctioned aggression practiced by Israel and supported by the US.

    I’m reminded of that saying: “what goes around, comes around.” Israel has demonstrated over and over and over again that they have NO interest in peace with their neighbors. NONE.

    The complicity of the US in Israel’s crimes does not leave us inviolable, either.

  2. American
    American
    March 15, 2014, 8:55 pm

    Good.
    And good catch annie.

  3. ivri
    ivri
    March 15, 2014, 8:59 pm

    Annie, I am afraid you missing the real context here. In practice this is clearly a meaningless move – after all Hezbollah had just as a free hand in its fighting with Israel, with or without a formal permission from the Lebanese state, because they are the most powerful and most armed group there.
    This essentially propaganda move is aimed to distract attention from an on-the-ground dramatic shift: Hezbollah, in the recent year, has actually changes warring arenas. At the behest of the Iranians (whose requests they cannot ignore even if it wanted to because they are the paymasters) it is now fully engaged in the war in Syria and in that they are in effect, in unintentional way, also doing Israel`s bidding, which is just as worried as they are from Al Queida gaining power in Syria. This is an amazing strategic shift that has been lost on many and consequently Israel will not want to harm Hezbollah as long as the war in Syria goes no (which is seemingly forever) – apart perhaps from active blocking of the transfer of long-range missiles to Lebanon, which serves no purpose in the fight in Syria and is just a threat to Israel. Now who would have predicted this development? Things are that volatile in the Mid-East.

    • annie
      annie
      March 15, 2014, 9:16 pm

      what ‘propaganda move’ are you referencing. the political fight between the mar 8 and 14 alliances or the recent border thing. and fyi, i am not seeing any upside in hezbollah setting off some blast on the border. and nasrallah generally makes some fiery speech when they carry out actions.

      so whose propaganda thing? if you open the Saad Hariri embed, that does sound like some propaganda. and i think israel’s action do sound dramatic. but i put in the last blockquote for a reason. israel is always breaching lebanon’s sovereignty, so i don’t really get why this blast went off other than trying to influence this ‘decision’ in lebanese politics.

      because they are the most powerful and most armed group there.

      because most lebanese support them and appreciate the protection they provide.

      in effect, in unintentional way, also doing Israel`s bidding, which is just as worried as they are from Al Queida gaining power in Syria.

      oh plllease.

      • ivri
        ivri
        March 15, 2014, 9:38 pm

        Annie: “What `propaganda move` you are referencing”
        The thing is that there is a huge criticism in Lebanon for the involvement of Hezbollah in Syria because they are afraid, rightly, that it will bring the war there (by retaliatory moves) – as already happening to some degree. There is also criticism from other Arab quarters to their moves because they side with Assad. The one sure way in the Arab world to deflect criticism is to show their “steadfastness” in the fight against the ”Small Satan” and this (practically vacuous) move “reminds” everybody that they didn`t forget their “primary mission”.

      • annie
        annie
        March 15, 2014, 9:45 pm

        The one sure way in the Arab world to deflect criticism is to show their “steadfastness” in the fight against the ”Small Satan” and this (practically vacuous) move “reminds” everybody that they didn`t forget their “primary mission”.

        lol, is this your ‘theory’? you think hezbollah set off a little blast to get on everybody’s good side? surely you jest.

      • just
        just
        March 15, 2014, 10:09 pm

        ivri– do you really think that all people on this planet are so dumb?

      • annie
        annie
        March 16, 2014, 3:32 am

        exactly just, he must think we’re all idiots. and what to make of this:

        they are afraid, rightly, that it will bring the war there (by retaliatory moves)

        ‘it’ will bring the war there? like the saudi/us/is trinity triathlon? making their retributions for lebanon not playing by their rules? lil lebanon has got some serious muscle. be careful when you preach democracy, because some people just might take it to heart, like the lebanese.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 16, 2014, 3:22 am

        “”Small Satan”

        Don’t flatter yourself. Ivri; the actual buzzword for Israel is “cancer” and the majority of the Lebanese are solidly behind Hizbullah in its fight against Israel. After the last elections, the US openly admitted to having spent $400 million to try to defeat it politically (after its failure to do it militarily 3 years earlier).

      • ivri
        ivri
        March 16, 2014, 10:34 am

        Walid, be careful with phrases if you truly care about the Arab region:A cancer can kill the whole body…

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 9:45 am

        Ivri, I don’t usually use such terms to describe Israel; I just wanted to help you understand how Israel is being described and these nasty terms aren’t used only by Arabs. “Little Satan” sounds like a cute cuddly thing, which doesn’t fit Israel’s behaviour in the neighbourhood.

      • talknic
        talknic
        March 16, 2014, 7:20 am

        @ ivri Every state has the right to request and receive help from their allies in times of trouble with their borders. The Syrian Government, as does any Government whether we like them or not, has the right and a duty to the majority of its citizens to attempt to maintain order and quell any armed uprising by minority groups.

        Until such time as a majority opposition voice is heard, neither the UN or anyone else has a right to intervene openly or covertly.

        Thus far a majority opposition to the Syrian Government has not emerged. It did in Libya and UN sanctioned action was taken.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 7:01 am

        A cancer can kill the whole body…

        And ultimately kill itself.

    • talknic
      talknic
      March 16, 2014, 7:51 am

      @ ivri “Hezbollah had just as a free hand in its fighting with Israel, with or without a formal permission from the Lebanese state, because they are the most powerful and most armed group there”

      Bullsh*t! Hezbollah like ’em or not, are the official Lebanese resistance movement to Israel.

      Were the Lebanese military to engage with Israel it would be state against state. Read UNSC res UNSC Res 1701 At the top: “SECURITY COUNCIL CALLS FOR END TO HOSTILITIES BETWEEN HIZBOLLAH, ISRAEL,” http://wp.me/pDB7k-uD

      “At the behest of the Iranians (whose requests they cannot ignore even if it wanted to because they are the paymasters)”

      Drivel

      ” it is now fully engaged in the war in Syria and in that they are in effect, in unintentional way, also doing Israel`s bidding, which is just as worried as they are from Al Queida gaining power in Syria”

      Al Qaeda doesn’t have the means or any political and/or military structure to gain power of much significance in any country.

      Meanwhile a majority opposition has yet to emerge in Syria therefore the incumbent Syrian Government, like ’em or not, has the right and duty to try to maintain order within its borders on behalf of the majority of its citizens against armed minorities and to seek and get assistance from any allies it chooses.

      ” This is an amazing strategic shift …..”

      You’re blowing hot air. It’s quite normal to seek and receive help from one’s allies in times of trouble.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 16, 2014, 8:37 am

        “… It’s quite normal to seek and receive help from one’s allies in times of trouble.”

        It was more a question of Hizbullah looking out for itself much more than about helping Syria to which it is indebted in any event. The al-Nusra terrorists had served notice that as soon as they’d finish their job on Syria, they’d be entering Lebanon and Israel to continue their endeavors there. Hizbullah decided to simply meet them head on in Syria before they’d get the opportunity of turning Lebanon into another Syria, and at the same time they’d be giving a hand to Syria to whom they owe a lot. It was a strategic decision. A couple of hours ago, Syria announced that it had mopped-up the Yabroud border area between it and Lebanon as the al-Nusra crowd fled. The not so nice part of the story is that the hundreds of fighters that fled, did so into Lebanon. Now Syria is shelling areas inside Lebanon where it’s believed the terrorists are sheltered.

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        March 17, 2014, 7:12 am

        “The not so nice part of the story is that the hundreds of fighters that fled, did so into Lebanon.’
        According to Al-Akhbar only a fraction did, Walid. A huge part fled/rertreated to Ras Al-A’in and Rankoos. Another fraction to Fleita and Ras ul Ma’arra close to the Lebanese border. A fraction did also flee to Lebanon.

        أما عملية الانسحاب فجرت في اتجاهات متفرّقة. إذ انسحب قسم كبير من المسلّحين باتجاه قريتي رأس العين
        ورنكوس، علماً بأن الأولى تضم مقرّ «النصرة» في القلمون. كما انسحبت مجموعات أخرى باتجاه بلدتي فليطا ورأس المعرّة السوريتين القريبتين من بلدة عرسال اللبنانية. وقد أكمل مسلّحون آخرون مسيرهم حيث تمكنوا من دخول الأراضي اللبنانية
        http://al-akhbar.com/node/202759

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 7:54 am

        I sure hope so, TGIA, last night at 11 they set off another bomb in the Hermel.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 10:09 pm

        TGIA, the roadside bomb on Chebaa Farms that injured the 3 IDF soldiers last Friday was al-Nusra’s “hello, we’re here” to Israel. Hizbullah has its hands full now in Syria, in keeping an eye on the south and with the car bombs that are aimed at its people in the north to start playing games with Israel on the Farms. And Israel knows it very well, but it seems that panic has started in Israel about al-Nusra starting to attack it. Al Nusra, contrary to Hizbullah, specializes in attacks on civilians. So Israel put on a small PR show of firing a few shells into Lebanon that damaged a couple of homes and killed a dozen sheep to lull Israeli public opinion on al-Nusra.

      • annie
        annie
        March 18, 2014, 11:16 pm

        the roadside bomb on Chebaa Farms that injured the 3 IDF soldiers last Friday was al-Nusra’s “hello

        i didn’t here about the bomb on friday injuring any israeli soldiers , but today ….Four Israeli soldiers injured in Golan Heights blast

        http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/explosion-injures-three-israeli-soldiers-golan-heights

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 19, 2014, 1:05 am

        “….Four Israeli soldiers injured in Golan Heights blast”

        That was a second “hello”, Annie. Netanyahu had welcomed wounded al-Nusra fighters on the Golan, treated them, gave them food and arms and sent them back to fight in Syria. It was a great PR stunt that reminded of Israel’s humanitarian mission with the dogs during the Haiti earthquake that packed up and left as soon as the news cameras stopped rolling. Ironic as I said, because al-Nusra promised to take on Israel and Lebanon when it would finish with Assad in Syria and here you have Netanyahu helping these people. The current leader of the Free Syrian Army, Abdul-Ilah al-Bashir, has been trained inside Israel.

        Al-Nusra whose efforts in Syria are fizzling out is trying to get Israel to retaliate by openly entering into the Syrian conflict.

    • Walid
      Walid
      March 16, 2014, 9:52 am

      “At the behest of the Iranians (whose requests they cannot ignore even if it wanted to because they are the paymasters)”

      Paymasters have nothing to do with it; you’re repeating Israeli talk about Hizbullah’s relationship with Iran. Shias everywhere adhere to a religious and political imam, called the Grand Ayatollah and in the case of Hizbullah, they adhere to the Grand Ayatollah Khamenei of Iran. Other Lebanese Shia adhere to either Ayatollah Fadlallah, son of the late Grand Ayatollah Fadlallah of Lebanon or to Grand Ayatollah al-Sistani of Iraq. This is where Hizbullah’s natural affinity to Iran comes from and why Iran is naturally helping Hizbullah politically, socially and militarily.

      In spite of this great Hizbullah-Iran affinity, Hizbullah is against instituting the Iranian religious doctrine in Lebanon, known as Wilayat al-Faqih or in English as Guardianship of Islamic Jurists because it respects the presence of Christians and Sunni Muslims in the country. Hizbullah doesn’t take orders from Iran.

      Wilayat al-Faqih explained:

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 16, 2014, 7:47 pm

        you people here are pretty hysterical. with all your talk and commentary on the power of the Israeli lobby and the power of the purse they hold you then throw out words like “drivel” and “nonsense” when it is suggested that Irans influence over Hizbollah derives from it being a ‘paymeaster’ or holding strings. Also curious is but not surprising is how easily folks here GUSH about a state acter in the region basically telling its citizens to ‘go ahead, go commit whatever acts of violence you see fit to commit’. I can imagine if Israel enacted such a specific law. And of course nobody is mentioning the fact that the UN gave its stamp of approval to Israeli withdraw from southern Lebanon years ago when the blue-line was established and borders were checked. the shebaa farms was always an Arab device to keep Lebanon and therefore Hizbollahs war against the Jews alive and funds flowing in freely. Such hypocrisy takes real dedication and a solid set of blinders.

        As for ‘ivri’ pointing out that Hizbollah has shifted its military attentions towards Syria? Why so thickheaded about acknowledging the obvious? So easy to ascribe plots to Israel but when the same is said about Israels enemies….its all “drivel…..nonsense…lol…etc.” typical.

        and walid- as to the “cancer” comment and “most Lebanese”….90% of Arabs in general support Hizbollahs desire to destroy the ‘zionist entity’ even if most Arabs in general hate Hizbollah so its not surprising or shocking that ‘most Lebanese’ support this ‘goal’ of its own ‘cancer’ thats festering in the countries south.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 17, 2014, 12:27 am

        Dabak,

        You’re just sore cuz the hizb kicked your idf asses too many times – and the next time will be the knockout kick. I’m personally looking forward…

        The Axis of Resistance is coming to liberate the Galilee, the Golan, The Jordan Valley, Jerusalem, Gaza, and every other inch of historic Arab Palestine… all the way to Elat.

        The euro colonialist zio “cancer” implant will be successfully removed.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:05 pm

        I’m sure you are excited and I can imagine the mess your drool over the keyboard has caused. If you want to continue believing that the withdraw from southern Leb. was a massive military defeat it is perfectly fine with me. Egypt and Syria still describe the ’73 war as a victory and its not uncommon in arab culture to portray EVERY battle-be it a humiliation, loss, inconclusive or draw-as a supposed ‘victory’. Israelis understood that the withdraw from Gaza as well would be turned on its head into Israel being ‘chased’ out in a humiliating defeat. As a matter of policy though -Israel does not pretend to be all omnipotent and overly confident and takes Hizbollah quite seriously but will not engage in bragging and embarrassing displays of pre-outcome giddyness and gushing about events which havn’t even taken place yet and which-undoubtedly- will end many lives on both sides of the border. At least your unhinged display of glee and lip-smacking joy at the thought of Israel being destroyed is an honest portrayal of what too often passes as ‘genuine concern’ for the jewish nation.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 5:05 pm

        Egypt and Syria still describe the ’73 war as a victory

        It was in many ways, seeing as it was such a strategic failure for Israel. It led to Israel rethinking Sinai and returning it.

        Israelis understood that the withdraw from Gaza as well would be turned on its head into Israel being ‘chased’ out in a humiliating defeat.

        Don’t be stupid. Israel left Gaza for very pragmatic reasons. They wanted to turn the place into a warehouse to lock up the Palestinians and utilize the resource to stealmore of the West Bank.

        And to make sure it wasn’t turned into a humiliating defeat, Israle fired 7,700 shells into Gaza as a parting gift over a period of 10 months.

        As a matter of policy though -Israel does not pretend to be all omnipotent and overly confident and takes Hizbollah quite seriously but will not engage in bragging

        Rubbish. The biggest problem Israel faces after 2006 was the loss of what they perceived to be their deterrence capability. In fact, they were so desperate to get it back that they claimed to have re-established it after the turkey shoot in Gaza in 2008. That’s about as sick as a street get getting rolled by a rival gang and then mugging an old lady to re-establishe their street cred.

        At least your unhinged display of glee and lip-smacking joy at the thought of Israel being destroyed is an honest portrayal of what too often passes as ‘genuine concern’ for the jewish nation.

        Nice straw man Mr Hasbara, but I can assure you Taxi has no concern for the Jewish nation, not that there is any such thing anyway other than in the giddy minds of you messianics.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 9:39 am

        “90% of Arabs in general support Hizbollahs desire to destroy the ‘zionist entity’ ”

        DaBakr, you join Ivri with your self-importance. The majority of Arabs probably couldn’t identify a Zionists if he was to come up close and to pick their pocket. There’s no need for Hizbullah to spook you guys; you’re doing it to yourselves without any help.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:22 pm

        hizbollah is the only military organization whose soldiers have any integrity as an integrated force afaict. that said- i don’t think it is a stretch to claim that 90% of Arabs support Hizbollahs goals in regards to Israel yet regard Hizbollah itself as a parasite and so-called ‘cancer’ in the region. and this is despite all that hizbollah does in the public policy arena for shi’a in the south. And just because most Arabs coudn’t “identify a Zionists(sic)…” does not stop them from hating all zionist and many/most Jews with reckless abandon. it is not a matter of “self-importance” to read things like- The Protocols of the Elders of Zion along with Hitlers Mein Kampf are perpetually on the top 10 lists of best selling books in Arab lands. Or, that Jews are forbidden from entering some Islamic nations. Or, that Arabs and/or Muslims see no issue with claiming proudly that their nations are Islamic yet have no tolerance for a small Jewish Nation.
        In fact-I think the Muslim/Arab mindset in the region has always been-in a nutshell:
        ‘who the hell do these Jews/Zionists think they are….etc . etc. we allowed them to live in relative peace UNDER muslim authority for centuries after we invaded and conquered the region so where do they get off thinking they can ever have any ‘Jewish’ authority especially over a Muslim? Never. Period’. Every other issue is just…..commentary.

        I could go on…but its pretty disingenuous to claim its ‘self importance’ when one compares the number of Jews worldwide who support Zionism and Israel vs. the Jews that do not and check that against Arab pov. If Arabs really had no problems with Zionism the Palestinian Arabs would probably have their ‘bi-national’ state by now since they would have integrated into Israeli society in much greater numbers then had the few hundred thousand fled and the other half been chased out because of the increasing violence

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:50 pm

        In fact-I think the Muslim/Arab mindset in the region has always been-in a nutshell:

        In a nutshell that sums up Zionism. It was Clinton who said that having had to deal with Israeli leaders, you have to ask which one is the super power and who is the recipient of economic, military and diplomatic support.

        And who can blame them for thinking who the hell do these Jews/Zionists think they are? The Zionists began arriving on the shores of Palestine in the late 1800s declaring that they were going to take the land and that the Arabs would have to go. How he f%ck do you expect the Arabs to respond? Oh yeah that sounds like a great idea!! What a swell bunch of guys!!

        If Arabs really had no problems with Zionism the Palestinian Arabs would probably have their ‘bi-national’ state by now

        That’s about as nonsensical as saying if women had no problem with being raped, there would be no more rapes being perpetrated. Are you out of your mind? Zionism is a settler/colonial movement, which means conquering land against the will of the indigenous population. How can any native population not have a problem with it?

  4. just
    just
    March 15, 2014, 9:32 pm

    ivri–“I am afraid you missing the real context here. In practice this is clearly a meaningless move”

    This is “meaningful”. Enough is enough. Nobody in the region trusts or believes Israel anymore. Israel, through its ugly and egregious actions, has worn out everyones’ patience. Tell your fellow citizens to wake up and smell the coffee.

    I read this article in Haaretz this morning. Thanks to Annie, it is here now.

    • talknic
      talknic
      March 16, 2014, 10:25 am

      @ just “Tell your fellow citizens to wake up and smell the..” corpses

      http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/be07c80cda4579468525734800500272?OpenDocument

      • just
        just
        March 16, 2014, 10:37 am

        You’re right, talknic.

        Posters like ivri could care less, though. Disproportion is their normal.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      March 16, 2014, 7:55 pm

      “nobody in the region trusts or believes Israel”

      And so what the hell is any different then 1948? The Arabs have hated, mistrusted and have sought to destroy Israel since its inception. You acting like ‘oh, its too late now for israel…nobody trusts them anymore..” As if Israel has ever had an Arab partner for peace that did NOT mistrust and hate them. Israel only has Arab ‘friends’ becasue they offer something these Arabs need. Either protection, security, information, etc. Only the most ignorant or deluded Israelis believes otherwise.

      • Cliff
        Cliff
        March 16, 2014, 10:15 pm

        ‘the Arabs’ have done no such thing

        The various countries and non-State actors that have fought your apartheid Jewish country club, have done so because you STOLE Palestine from the Palestinian people.

        There is no Jewish State without a Jewish majority and there is no Jewish majority without the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        March 16, 2014, 10:17 pm

        Amazing isn’t it? A bunch of alien Jews from Europe–strangers to the land–invade Palestine and steal it from it’s sole rightful owners and the surrounding Arab states react negatively.

        But I’m sure if someone broke into your brother’s house, raped his wife, emptied his bank account, and murdered your nephew in cold blood, that you’d be a “partner for peace” and welcome the thief/rapist/murderer with open arms…

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:28 pm

        “sole rightful owners” pretty rich stuff. like to know which parcel of land your living on. until the quaker ideal of ‘no borders’ comes to pass we will continue to live in a world where the concept of “sole rightful owners” makes about as much sense as telling people that only YOU have ‘the truth’.

      • talknic
        talknic
        March 18, 2014, 7:04 pm

        DaBakr “As if Israel has ever had an Arab partner for peace that did NOT mistrust and hate them”

        Mmmm. There is Israel, in breach of hundreds of UNSC resolutions giving the Jewish state the opportunity to comply with the binding laws and UN Charter they reaffirm and emphasize and:

        there are Jews.

        Read the LoN Mandate for Palestine giving Jews the right to immigrate, gain citizenship, buy real estate, settle anywhere in their Historic homeland in Palestine (of 1922) , have freedom of religion. http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/7F0AF2BD897689B785256C330061D253

        Same was offered by the Arab States http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/MFADocuments/Yearbook1/Pages/5%20Arab%20League%20declaration%20on%20the%20invasion%20of%20Pales.aspx

        Israel’s independence was proclaimed effective at 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time) within the frontiers of UNGA res 181 http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#look , with Jewish forces “outside the State of Israel”..”in Palestine” http://pages.citebite.com/x1r0b4d1y6mkv The Arab states as regional powers had every right to try to expel Israeli forces from what remained of Palestine after Israel was declared independent of Palestine. That’s why there are no UNSC resolutions against any Arab State for their actions against Israeli forces “outside the State of Israel”..”in Palestine”

        Go bitch to the Zionist Federation for demanding a separate state, they took away the right for our Jewish fellows to settle anywhere in the Jewish People’s historic homeland in Palestine (post 00:01 May 15th 1948)

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        March 18, 2014, 7:22 pm

        Has Israel ever offered to negotiate through a representative who clearly trusted and respected Palestinians?

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 8:13 pm

        As if Israel has ever had an Arab partner for peace that did NOT mistrust and hate them.

        How can Israel expect up have an Arab partner for peace who didn’t mistrust them? Even Ben Gurion was honest enough to admit that if he were an Arab, he would not trust Israelis.

  5. thankgodimatheist
    thankgodimatheist
    March 16, 2014, 12:13 am

    The draft of the statement was bitterly fought and contested by the 14th March movement (Hariri clan and associates). In case you do not know, the US lackeys in Lebanon.

    • Walid
      Walid
      March 16, 2014, 5:10 am

      The Ministerial Statement, meant to be a road map of what the government intends doing during its mandate is comprised mostly of smoke and mirrors issues since very rarely a government succeeds at accomplishing more than 5% of what’s planned in it. It’s a signal for foreign governments to continue keeping the country in their good graces or to put it in the doghouse.

      Past governments of Lebanon have acknowledged the presence of Hizbullah in the political landscape by referring to it simply as the “Resistance” in mentioning its vocation of defending the country along with the army thus providing it with official government legitimacy, but this time around the pro-US faction had been insisting on this term’s total removal from the Ministerial Statement to comply with American demands. The US has been funding Lebanon for about $100 million yearly and doing so embarrassingly since Hizbullah (that it considers a terrorist entity) is officially sanctioned by the Ministerial Statement. This is what this what was being contested, as TGIA mentioned. A term convenient to both sides was found to break the deadlock by stating that all the people have the right to resist, thereby encompassing Hizbullah without referring to it by name.

      In spite of having appeared to have patched things up with terminology, there’s a chance that this Ministerial Statement (of convenience) will not pass the parliamentary vote of confidence next week because there are machinations underway to bring back Saad Hariri as Prime Minister, which would be a good for the country, since he appears to have made a small peace with Hizbullah.

  6. brenda at fol
    brenda at fol
    March 16, 2014, 2:35 am

    Thanks, Annie, for sharing this on Mondoweiss. And thanks for pointing out that Hezbollah and its Resistance have keen support in Lebanon and amongst the many Lebanese expats around the world. This fact is not portrayed in mainstream media, for fairly obvious reasons, but it is indeed the reality. Also contrary to the narrative delivered by mainstream media, the raison d’etre of Hezbollah is defence. It “serves” neither Iran, nor President Assad. Its “mission” is in the name: Party of God. Hezbollah serves God. It defends, protects and nurtures the dignity and well-being of the Lebanese people. Just as importantly to note, we need to remember that Hezbollah doesn’t merely receive the support of the Lebanese people, it IS the Lebanese people. Granted not all the Lebanese people support Hezbollah, but Hezbollah is (and always has been) made up of Lebanese people who work to defend their own rights to be the Lebanese people as they themselves choose to be.

    • annie
      annie
      March 16, 2014, 3:22 am

      Hezbollah… IS the Lebanese people.

      thank you brenda (really). and yes, i know, it’s a citizen army.

  7. Talkback
    Talkback
    March 16, 2014, 3:12 am

    “Hisbollah” is Libanese for “Haganah”.

    • pabelmont
      pabelmont
      March 16, 2014, 9:24 am

      Talkback: That (“Hagana”) would mean that Hezbollah is a pre-state army or militia — but not terrorists — any more than (as some would say) Hagana was terrorists. so that in the event that there were multiple armed groups in Lebanon (official army, Hezbollah as “one”, and also other smaller ones), the other groups could “be” the terrorist groups like Israel’s Stern Gang, Irgun, etc.

      Principal difference here (or am I wrong?) would be that the various armed groups in Lebanon, as also in Syria, include groups funded and possibly actually directed by outsiders (Iran, Israel, USA, Syria) whereas in 1947-48, the Jewish armed groups in Israel were all internal, not “directed” although possibly funded from outside.

      In any case, Annie’s story tells us of a “policy statement” that declares a right of all Lebanese to defend Lebanon (and themselves) against Israeli attack. Not to do offensive war, but only defense. Not against all (possible) enemies but only against Israeli attack. That’s supposed to endear them to fuzzy ole uncle Sam?

      I wonder what it would take to get Hezbollah off the USA’s terrorist list? I wonder what it would take to get Israel on the USA’s terrorist list? After all, isn’t it all politics?

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 16, 2014, 10:07 am

        “I wonder what it would take to get Hezbollah off the USA’s terrorist list? ”

        It would have to promise to roll out the red carpet for Israel the next time it invades Lebanon. Assad had received a similar offer of falling into the US’ good graces if he’d abandon Hizbullah and Iran. He refused the offer and the sky fell on him.

      • just
        just
        March 16, 2014, 11:46 am

        Thanks, Walid.

        Annie– that is a stunning photo up top!

      • annie
        annie
        March 16, 2014, 10:14 pm

        hey thanks, i like it too. mleeta is….an amazing unforgettable experience.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      March 16, 2014, 8:00 pm

      So then…you must have a lot more respect and admiration for the Haganah then I ever could have imagined. Good for you. Israelis have a very healthy respect for Hizbollah as well. It is perhaps the first and only fighting force we have developed specific methods for fighting against. Nobody that I know of thinks the coming war with Hizbollah will be easy in any way.

  8. jsinton
    jsinton
    March 16, 2014, 7:44 am

    “Occupied” Shebaa Farms. Annexed by Israel in 1981. Never recognized by the international community. In other words, another festering canker sore on the Zionist body. It just won’t heal, and now ALL Lebanese citizens have a right to take it back, without state intervention.

    • Walid
      Walid
      March 17, 2014, 1:40 pm

      Like pinning the tail on a donkey’s ass, they stole it and pinned the Hebrew tag on it, “Har Dov”. That, in their minds made it legitimate. It’s only 9 square miles, but it’s full of wall-to-wall water because it’s on the snowy slopes of Jabal el Sheikh that was also given a Hebrew tag, Mount Hermon.

    • puppies
      puppies
      March 17, 2014, 2:29 pm

      @jsinton – All Lebanese had that right without waiting for politicians. See UN Charter.

  9. ivri
    ivri
    March 16, 2014, 10:26 am

    Well, I have a completely different take on things here. In my view Hezbollah caused a huge damage to Lebanon. That country used to be seen in past times as the jewel of the Arab world – modern, sophisticated, liberal (in Arab world terms), prosperous and what not. Troubles there began when it was “recruited” against its will to the “big cause”, namely fighting Israel, first by the PLO and then by Hezbollah – doing it in alliance with a non-Arab entity that looked for hegemony (it`s over now) in the region. Lebanon is another tragic casualty of the colossal Arab error of making Israel its main target with massive efforts dedicated to that “front” instead of to matters that have been far more important, even crucial, for the Arab world well-being. In Lebanon, this only got worse now with the involvement in the Syrian war. In the future Hezbollah will be remembered in Lebanon as the greatest disaster that ever occurred to it – I have no doubt about that.

    • Taxi
      Taxi
      March 17, 2014, 12:37 am

      ivri,

      You’re just another minion zio who’s jealous and petrified of hizb power. The Lebanese people ARE hizbollah – only an ignorant, brainwshed nitwit refuses to acknowledge this.

      And please spare us your cracked crystal ball visions.

    • JeffB
      JeffB
      March 17, 2014, 6:46 am

      @ivri —

      I think most Lebanese already view Hezbollah that way. Most Lebanese view Hezbollah as having started the 2006 Israel–Hezbollah War. Certainly they view Hezbollah as having driven Israel out in the early 1980s and that attitude hasn’t changed. But they don’t like offensive wars. While they consider Israel to be vicious they realize it was Hezbollah that kept sticking the crazy dog with a stick and got Lebanon bit. I think most Lebanese are starting to view their entire relationship with Syria in a new way as they see Syria as having driven Lebanon into fighting their war with Israel.

      That being said, Israel IMHO isn’t helping the situation by being so aggressive. I think a strong Israeli peace gesture at this point might work, a reiteration that Israel is willing to immediately sign a strong end of hostilities agreement. In my experience most Lebanese don’t seem to understand they are the ones who technically are refusing peace, making this apparent is a good idea IMHO.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 17, 2014, 11:06 am

        JeffB,
        “Most Lebanese view Hezbollah as having started the 2006 Israel–Hezbollah War.”
        Links? Polls? Cheap crystal ball?

        Clearly, you’ve never even met a Lebanese.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:40 pm

        again…such willful ignorance and blinders. don’t you recall the speech nasrallah made admitting that had he known israel would react so hysterically that he may not have launched the ‘resistance’ mission in the first place? i think you can extrapolate through that that the Lebanese not allied with hizbollah considered them responsible for opening the conflict. perhaps they also think Israel is to blame but your not suggesting that Lebanese are that clueless and stupid that they don’t know whats up or down? hizbollah could care less if Lebanons sunnis know they started the conflict. all they care about is portraying the incident as a ‘victory’ for Islam against the zionist entity. there is also only SOME truth to the statements here that “hizbollah = lebanon”. there are big limitations on how much love sunni Lebanese have for ‘the resistence’

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 18, 2014, 3:50 pm

        Dabakh,

        You must be a crypto Lebanese or something – you seem to know EVERYTHING and more about the hizb and the Lebanese. Apparently you know your Lebanon even better than Walid: MW’s regular Lebanese commentator. This must mean, therefore, that you already know that the axis of resistance is steadily inching towards you.

        What else to say except: enjoy your knowledge.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:35 pm

        uch willful ignorance and blinders. don’t you recall the speech nasrallah made admitting that had he known israel would react so hysterically that he may not have launched the ‘resistance’ mission in the first place?

        You are interpreting the speech wrongly of course. Al this shows is that Nasrallah is not a psychopath who revels in bloodshed. Such cross border skirmishes were common place and never led to war, but months before it took place, Bush and Blair were alerted to Israel’s plans to start a war with Hezbollah based on any pretext.

        i think you can extrapolate through that that the Lebanese not allied with hizbollah considered them responsible for opening the conflict.

        You could try but you’d be wrong. As I explained already, Israel’s stupidity erased any criticism of Hezbllah’s actions when Israel began boming the Cristina suburbs to the north – hoping to turn them against Hezbollah – but the strategy failed and united the Christians with Hezbllah.

        hizbollah could care less if Lebanons sunnis know they started the conflict.

        Apparently, you could care less about the facts.

        there is also only SOME truth to the statements here that “hizbollah = lebanon”. there are big limitations on how much love sunni Lebanese have for ‘the resistence’

        Those limitations being that they are also beholden to Saudi Arabia to a large extent, so their criticism fo Hezbollah is based rivalry, not Hezbollah’s actions.

        After the 2006 war, Nasrallah became the most popular figure in the entire Arab word, Sunni and Shiite, so your theory is bunk.

      • kma
        kma
        March 17, 2014, 2:31 pm

        JeffB, you sound just like someone who learned everything they know from the US State Dept. What’s funny about people like that is their ability to dismiss the real-life opinions of the masses in America simply because they feel intellectually superior.
        I’m not trying to be insulting, I’m being honest. People who work for the US gov’t too long start speaking for people they don’t even know, and it starts sounding like our good old media when they make sweeping statements about Saudia Arabia’s opinions where they mean ONLY the royal family.
        I think you really are being earnest about your views, but I think you are in a bubble and the US is getting too corrupt to care what any real people think, whether Americans or Lebanese or Egyptians or anyone.

      • Sumud
        Sumud
        March 17, 2014, 10:24 pm

        Certainly they view Hezbollah as having driven Israel out in the early 1980s and that attitude hasn’t changed.

        You might need to brush up on your history there JeffB, oracle of the Lebanese people.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 2:02 am

        I think most Lebanese already view Hezbollah that way.

        No, just a faction from the Sunni block, but Hezbollah has enormous respect throughout Lebanon, with both friend and foe.

        It was Israel that started the 2006 war. The Winograd report stated this very clearly.

        While they consider Israel to be vicious they realize it was Hezbollah that kept sticking the crazy dog with a stick and got Lebanon bit.

        That opinion was immediately erased when Israel began bombing the Christian areas to the North, hoping to turn the Christians against Hezbollah, but only succeeded in uniting them.

  10. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    March 16, 2014, 11:58 am

    “I wonder what it would take to get Hezbollah off the USA’s terrorist list? ”

    Conversion to Judiasm followed by a submission to join the World Jewish Congress, then we’ll talk.

  11. Shuki
    Shuki
    March 16, 2014, 12:37 pm

    the decisive battle in 2000 when Hezbollah forces defeated Israel, ending the decades long Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon.
    —-
    Completely false. Israel unilaterally withdrew. Everyone knows this to be true.

    I suppose when you’re cheerleading for a terrorist group like Hezbollah, you have to perpetuate their propaganda.

    You remind me of the pathetic Iraqi generals who told the press that allied forces were being crushed while their soldiers were out surrendering to news camera crews.

    • tree
      tree
      March 16, 2014, 11:37 pm

      Completely false. Israel unilaterally withdrew. Everyone knows this to be true.

      Yeah, kinda like the US unilaterally withdrew from Vietnam. You can pretend it wasn’t a defeat if you want to, but the rest of the world knows the truth.

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      March 18, 2014, 2:48 am

      Completely false. Israel unilaterally withdrew.

      Which is a nice way of saying hey were unilaterally kicked out.

      I suppose when you’re cheerleading for a terrorist group like the IDF, you have to perpetuate their propaganda.

      You remind me of the pathetic Iraqi generals who told the press that allied forces were being crushed while their soldiers were out surrendering to news camera crews.

      You remind me of the pathetic IAF in 2006 who kept assuring the the ground forces that they were on the verge of clearing the way for the ground invasion every 48 hours for 2 weeks.

      You also remind me of the ground forces who kept declaring they were on the verge of reaching the Litani for the next 2 weeks, when it turned out, they barely managed to cross the border.

      generals who told the press that allied forces were being crushed while their soldiers were out surrendering to news camera crews.

  12. Les
    Les
    March 16, 2014, 12:57 pm

    Because the US denies the modern weapons necessary to defend Lebanon’s national air space, its coast, and its borders from invaders such as Israel, Hezbollah has opted to become the nation’s sole defense. If the US wanted to eliminate or weaken Hezbollah it surely knows how to do just that.

  13. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    March 16, 2014, 9:48 pm

    Annie- The caption under the photograph surprises me: “Lebanese resistance Museum and tourist attraction marking the location of the decisive battle in 2000 when Hezbollah forces defeated Israel, ending the decades long Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon. Under the supervision of the Lebanese Association for Tourism and Heritage.”

    My memory of 2000 was that there were no battles fought in 2000. Ehud Barak decided to withdraw Israeli troops and he withdrew them 6 weeks before the scheduled withdrawal, but I could find no (quick, superficial look) evidence of a battle in 2000, let alone a decisive battle that forced Israeli troops to evacuate.

    If I’m wrong, tell me I’m wrong. If I’m right, then this is another evidence of propaganda rather than reporting.

    • annie
      annie
      March 16, 2014, 10:22 pm

      yonah, i changed it to “marking the location of the base that launched decisive battles where Hezbollah forces defeated Israel in 2000, ending the decades long Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon.”

      according to the guides at the museum and the lebanese i spoke with, the whole south was occupied. given israel penchant for occupation and annexation, i tend to agree hezbollah ran them out of town, decisively. and there’s evidence to that effect at the museum.

      either way, they are no longer occupying southern lebanon, thanks to hezbollah.

    • tree
      tree
      March 17, 2014, 12:13 am

      Battle of Khiam, 2000

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khiam_(2000)

      This is the battle that forced the hasty early withdrawal of Israel from Southern Lebanon. Israel’s continued loses there and the likelihood of more loses with no appreciable gains is what led Barak to schedule the withdrawal for July 2000. On May 24th Israel announce it was withdrawing all troops in light of the collapse of its “Security Zone” due to the surrender of the SLA. By the end of the very next day, all Israeli troops were withdrawn. They were in essence chased out.

      http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/MIDDLE-EAST-ISRAELI-WITHDRAWAL-FROM-LEBANON-WRAP/ca210bcd833bbe9d20052d20d0a1e9aa?query=israeli+withdrawal+from+lebanon&current=1&orderBy=Relevance&hits=1252&referrer=search&search=%2fsearch%3fstartd%3d%26endd%3d%26allFilters%3d%26query%3disraeli%2bwithdrawal%2bfrom%2blebanon%26advsearchStartDateFilter%3d%26advsearchEndDateFilter%3d%26searchFilterHdSDFormat%3dAll%26searchFilterDigitized%3dAll%26searchFiltercolorFormat%3dAll%26searchFilteraspectratioFormat%3dAll&allFilters=&productType=IncludedProducts&page=1&b=a1e9aa

      • tree
        tree
        March 17, 2014, 12:22 am

        More about the dire straits the IDF was in on May 23rd with the widespread surrender of the SLA and the capture of much of the Israeli “Security Zone” in South Lebanon by Hezbollah. From the NYTimes:

        Israel’s Buffer Strip in South Lebanon Collapsing

        http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/23/world/israel-s-buffer-strip-in-south-lebanon-collapsing.html

      • tree
        tree
        March 17, 2014, 12:42 am

        From the NY Times report on May 23rd (a Tuesday):

        After meeting with army commanders on the Israeli side of the border on Monday[May 22nd], Mr. Barak reiterated his pledge to pull all Israeli forces out of southern Lebanon within ”a few weeks.” His office denied Israeli television reports that he had ordered the troops withdrawn by June 1, five weeks ahead of his original deadline.

        But in light of the Monday collapse of at least two battalions of the South Lebanon Army, the security cabinet was said to be trying to speed up the withdrawal, while reinforcing Israeli military installations immediately south of the border.

        After the late night security cabinet meeting on the 23rd, Israel hastily withdrew all forces on May 24th and 25th, bombed its own abandoned tanks and artillery in Southern Lebanon and reinforced its own side of its northern border with troops from within Israel. These are not hallmarks of an orderly unprovoked withdrawal. I’d say give Hezbollah credit where credit is due.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        March 17, 2014, 5:28 am

        tree- The original statement of the caption inferred that the battles were fought against Israeli forces, that they were the decisive battles that caused the withdrawal and that they were launched from that place. (I do not know how close the museum is to the battles that you cite, but I do know:) All the battles that you have cited were fought against SLA, not Israel. And they were not decisive in the decision to withdraw. The decision to withdraw was not arrived at as a result of those battles. (Hezbollah’s resistance over the 18 years or so of the occupation and the Israeli casualties were decisive rather than the battles of the year 2000.) The retreating/withdrawing IDF was leaving an inferior fighting force to take their place and found out that the SLA was not capable of allowing for an orderly retreat. Yes, it was a retreat under fire. But the battles you cited were not “the decisive battles when Hezbollah forces defeated Israel, ending the decades long Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon.”

        This was inaccurate and Annie amended the caption to reflect the facts.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 9:10 am

        ” SLA was not capable of allowing for an orderly retreat”

        That’s really putting it super-mildly, Yonah, there was no one firing at them at the time since they fled in the middle of night abandoning arms and munitions in their haste. I saw for myself what was abandoned as I toured almost the totality of the south from village to village on May 26th along with the hundreds of thousands that came to celebrate the liberation of 20% of the country. In the last months of the occupation, Israeli thieves had been carting away tons of Lebanese topsoil to farms inside Israel. When they were caught at it by the UN observers, they claimed that the the thefts were by private contractors that had nothing to do with the Israeli government

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 9:26 am

        “withdrew all forces on May 24th and 25th, bombed its own abandoned tanks and artillery in Southern Lebanon ”

        On their way out, Israelis also bombed a section of the 900-year old crusader Beaufort Castle. I was there on the 26th but no one was allowed inside because Israel had booby-trapped the whole place. Israelis eventually made a film about it.

      • tree
        tree
        March 17, 2014, 1:11 pm

        yonah,

        I’m not referring to annie’s comments. My reply was directed at your comments, which were wrong.

        My memory of 2000 was that there were no battles fought in 2000. Ehud Barak decided to withdraw Israeli troops and he withdrew them 6 weeks before the scheduled withdrawal, but I could find no (quick, superficial look) evidence of a battle in 2000, let alone a decisive battle that forced Israeli troops to evacuate.

        If I’m wrong, tell me I’m wrong.

        I guess you didn’t really mean that last sentence I quoted. There was a decisive battle in 2000. As a result of that battle the IDF was forced to evacuate its forces within 48 hours of the emergency security cabinet meeting dealing with the worsening (for the IDF) situation in South Lebanon, rather than 6 weeks later as planned. The fact that the battle was against the SLA, Israel’s proxy army in Lebanon, doesn’t make any difference because it was the precipitating event that led to the hurried withdrawal of the IDF under duress.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        March 17, 2014, 9:58 pm

        tree- Thanks for the info on the battles of 2000. I was thinking in terms of battles between the IDF and Hezbollah rather than the SLA and Hezbollah, but thanks for teaching me a bit of the history.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 2:19 am

        Mothers of dead IDF soldiers demonstrating everyday in front of the Knesset for Israel to withdraw helped in provoking the retreat and the 2 helicopters colliding and killing 73 IDF soldiers in 1997 was another factor. But the main cause of Israel’s withdrawal was its overall losses to Hizbullah that it couldn’t take anymore.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        March 17, 2014, 5:41 am

        “The original statement of the caption inferred that the battles were fought against Israeli forces, ”

        No, it didn’t. It might have implied that, but it certainly didn’t infer it. The speaker, writer, statement, premise or fact implies. The hearer/reader infers.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        March 17, 2014, 9:59 pm

        RoHa- implies not infers. thanks.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:46 pm

        “in essence” is not the same as literally being chased out as much as you squeeze your eyes and wish it so. i could just as well say that Israel as a whole was looking for an excuse to get out of leb. and in essence, created the situation which allowed them to withdraw with no further political debate.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:28 pm

        “in essence” is not the same as literally being chased out as much as you squeeze your eyes and wish it so. i could just as well say that Israel as a whole was looking for an excuse to get out of leb. and in essence, created the situation which allowed them to withdraw with no further political debate.

        In essence it’s the same thing. The only reason for Israel to want to want to get out of an occupation is because they are suffering sever losses and cannot sustain their efforts.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 4:07 pm

        hah. So…..THIS is your link to the “decisive battle” defeating and chasing the ‘Zionist’ out of Lebanon? There were no IDF in this skirmish. As soon as IDF pulled back support for Christian militia most crumpled and gave up immediately throwing themselves on mercy of victors. Others (brave or cowardly-depending on your pov) fled to Israel or abroad.
        You can wish it. You can lie, You can cheat and fudge as well. But you can not make up a “decisive battle” in Lebanon that defeated the Israelis. It was pretty much a ‘business’ decision as ongoing occupation was never the goal and it was too costly in terms of lives and equipment. It was definitely no victory for Israel so in fairness, I suppose it can be considered a defeat. Certainly a victory for Hizbollah but why lie and say there was a ‘decisive’ battle?

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:40 pm

        As soon as IDF pulled back support for Christian militia most crumpled and gave up immediately throwing themselves on mercy of victors.

        That’s because the IDF crumpled and ran back to Israel, just like they did in 2006. But it’s true there was no decisive battle in Lebanon that defeated the Israelis, much as the whole war. There was no decisive battle in Afghanistan that defeated the the USSR, but it’s clear the Russians were defeated by being bled by the resistance.

        It was pretty much a ‘business’ decision as ongoing occupation was never the goal and it was too costly in terms of lives and equipment.

        Rubbish. The goal was alasy occupation. Israel even installed a pipeline form the Litani to steal water and feed it back to Israel, so they clearly had plans to stay permanently, Israel has never returned land without suffering a strategic defeat.

  14. hophmi
    hophmi
    March 16, 2014, 9:56 pm

    Let me know when they recognize the right of their people to resist Syrian occupation and aggression. LOL.

    • Taxi
      Taxi
      March 17, 2014, 12:43 am

      shuki, ivri, hophmi, Dabakr,

      You guys have been eating hizb shorts since 1982 – LOL!

      Just FACE the facts, man.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        March 17, 2014, 12:13 pm

        You better hope Israel never faces the facts, Taxi, because if it really took Hizbollah as seriously as Hizbollah demands to be taken, a hell of a lot of Lebanese people would die in the ensuing war. Maybe Hizballah do something stupid, like kidnap a couple more Israeli soldiers, and then we’ll see who’s eating whose shorts.

        Only in the Arab world could a terrorist organization do this, and then claim victory after thousands of their own citizens die.

        So tone down your bravado, and stop helping this treasonous cancer in your country waste the blood of your countrymen. Hizballah is a fundamentalist Islamic organization that murders its political opponents, thumbs its nose at the UN, serves a foreign master that murders its own people with chemical weapons, and destabilized Lebanon by competing with its army.

        Your support of Hezboshaytan shows again that you care more about hating Israel than loving the Lebanese.

      • puppies
        puppies
        March 17, 2014, 2:56 pm

        @hop – “you care more about hating Israel than loving the Lebanese”
        Darn right. “Israel” is still a growing cancer on the world’s asscheek.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 17, 2014, 3:34 pm

        Hops,

        Man, you are so brainwashed. Whether you admit it or not, the hizb kicked your precious idf asses out of Lebanon several times over. Whether you admit it or not, the hizb is the BIGGEST immediate physical threat to Apartheid israel. Like it or not, the hizb is considered as a liberation movement to like 90% of the planet. Go ahead and cite one single PROOF that the hizb is responsible for ANY political assassinations. Dude the hizb as an organization is islamic but not “fundamentalist”. Hops, put a sock in your racist mouth for the stereotyping-slander of “Only in the Arab world…”. LOL! And don’t make me laugh with your triple-baloney stew: “[Hisballah] thumbs its nose at the UN, serves a foreign master that murders its own people with chemical weapons, and destabilized Lebanon by competing with its army.”

        I don’t defend Lebanon cuz it’s my country, (it’s not), I defend it because it’s a democratic, beautiful and vibrant country worth defending, unlike the criminal, terrorist Apartheid state of isreal.

        Interesting also that you use the buzzword “Hezboshaytan”, it’s only like Saudi fundies’ favorite term to describe the hizb. So how about that, hops – you’re sharing stupid jargon and propaganda with alqaida.
        (*Hezb = party and shaytan = satan, therefore Hezboshaytan = party of satan)

        You really don’t know sh*t about the hizb. And this is indeed, a very good thing for the hizb.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 18, 2014, 2:50 pm

        “… Hizballah is a fundamentalist Islamic organization.”

        Wrong on that one, hophmi. It’s definitely very religion-driven and ultra pious Shia Muslim, but it’s not at all fundamentalist. Fundies in general are Sunni (Wahabi)Muslims that would have everyone return to the fundamentals of the faith and of the way of living that prevailed at the time of the Prophet 1400 years ago, with no room for other non-fundamentalist Muslims, Christians or Jews in their landscape. Lebanon’s Shia which include Hizbullah are progressive; their staunchest allies in Lebanon are the Christians. In 2006 when the South’s Shia fled their villages during the carpet bombing, it was the Christians that sheltered many of them in their homes, schools and churches in the northern part of the country.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 3:56 pm

        you remind me of a schoolyard instigator chucking out insults trying to provoke a reaction. i don’t recall ANY Israeli (here or otherwise) making claims about hizbollah being anything other then a force to be taken seriously. as for your “eating..” comment. this is why the Arabs have such a problem with humiliation. i have to tell you though, real hizbollis do not engage in the kind of taunting you seem to enjoy. read the rare interview with a real ranking soldier and you will know there is deep mutual respect and animosity on both sides for each other. unfortunately-it is always going to be the Lebanese citizens who bear the brunt of the conflict w/o EVER having a say as to when and why fighting should ever begin. the fact that Israelis will suffer too is clearly a positive occurrence for you though surely not as important as the loss of non-Jewish lives will be.

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        March 17, 2014, 10:32 pm

        No, Iraqi Pete Taxi is right. Hizb’allah isn’t fundamentalist. No, no, it’s just Islamist. And their methods are democratic! And they’ve never assassinated anybody! And the moon is made of green cheese! And Qaddafi is still alive and living in Vegas with Elvis!

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 18, 2014, 3:20 pm

        hophmi,

        You need to learn the distinction between ‘islamic’ and islamist’. And you also need to learn the difference between an ‘organization’ and an ‘individual’.

        I asked you for PROOF that the hizb conducts political assassinations – you didn’t provide proof so sftu.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:58 pm

        No, Iraqi Pete Taxi is right. Hizb’allah isn’t fundamentalist. No, no, it’s just Islamist.

        How do you define fundamentalist Hop? If they were fundamentalist, then why are they not imposing Shriah on the entire region?

        And their methods are democratic! And they’ve never assassinated anybody!

        It’s take that as admission Hop that Israel is therefore a democracy, seeing as they have proclaimed assassination to be a state policy.

        Glad to see you coming around Hop.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 18, 2014, 12:45 am

        Dabakha,

        Hophs, your zio clone above, reckons that the hizb are NOT taken seriously in israel – just read his response to me (I know you haven’t!).

        And enough of your frigging racism – you think only “Arabs have such a problem with humiliation”?! How exceptionally subhuman of them, right?!! And your crocodile tears for Lebanese civilians killed by idf gunfire are really un-touching, so stfu.

        You cruising for a bruising in Lebanon? LOL! Go ahead, knock yourself out, literally – the hizb has tel aviv by the balls and you know it!

        Palestine, Lebanon and Syria WILL BE LIBERATED from the euro zionist colonials by the gathering forces of the axis of resistance. There ain’t nothing you can do about that except run-run-run away crying and scamming to take with you more of my tax-dollars, no doubt!

      • hophmi
        hophmi
        March 18, 2014, 4:29 pm

        “How exceptionally subhuman of them, right”

        No, it’s typical of dictatorial societies. See, in democratic societies like Israel, the government is, like, self-critical and stuff. They set up commissions. They hold hearings. They don’t, like Nasser, get on the radio and proclaim victory every five seconds.

        “You cruising for a bruising in Lebanon? LOL! Go ahead, knock yourself out, literally – the hizb has tel aviv by the balls and you know it!”

        Yeah, the Japanese thought that they had America by the balls in 1941. I wonder how that turned out for them. I wonder how it turned out for the Germans in Dresden.

        “Palestine, Lebanon and Syria WILL BE LIBERATED from the euro zionist colonials by the gathering forces of the axis of resistance. There ain’t nothing you can do about that except run-run-run away crying and scamming to take with you more of my tax-dollars, no doubt!”

        Syria needs liberating from the Euro-Zionist axis? Wow. Are you sure you don’t have a ICC indictment hanging over your head that you’d like to let us know about?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 19, 2014, 12:17 am

        Hops,
        Isreal is a democracy for jews ONLY! Therefore it is NOT a democracy. Remember: democracy is meant to be INCLUSIVE.

        Stupid to compare the Japanese to the Lebanese – but you go ahead, pretend you’re invincible as often as possible – it serves the resistance to have you guys confused about who you’re REALLY dealing with.

        Finally, YES, Syria’s Golan IS occupied by the euro zionists – this is a fact you cannot surely deny. I repeat: the axis of resistance WILL liberate All Arab land occupied by the euro zionist colonials. Not forgetting here that the only people petrified of the ICC is Apartheid isreal.

  15. thankgodimatheist
    thankgodimatheist
    March 16, 2014, 11:01 pm

    “Let me know when they recognize the right of their people to resist Syrian occupation and aggression”
    Oi! Are you ok? What Syrian occupation? And what aggression? Last time I checked Syrian troops left Lebanon in 2005. You’re either dumb or deliberately distorting facts thinking no one would notice. Either way, cut the crap. LOL.

  16. Taxi
    Taxi
    March 17, 2014, 12:45 am

    Cool pic, annie. Any more where that came from?

    • annie
      annie
      March 17, 2014, 1:03 am

      yes, a lot more! and they are fantastic! one of these days i will put them all in a post. it’s so magical being there in southern lebanon, which is such gorgeous land with gorgeous people, and imagining a time it was all occupied. driving on the curvy roads with the beautiful exquisite light and olive trees, stones and mountains…and views. thinking of those free people not being free not that long ago. and now they are protecting themselves from occupation ever happening again. from syria’s madness encroaching. what a proud people. there’s something in the mediterranean air there. i love lebanon.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        March 17, 2014, 1:58 am

        Isn’t it just wonderful to wander freely on liberated land?

        Next stop: Palestine.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 8:55 am

        Glad you enjoyed the south, Annie, it’s the most beautiful part of the country. Also the friendliest.

      • annie
        annie
        March 17, 2014, 11:32 am

        absolutely walid, as always thanks for all your comments. and i never heard of anyone stealing topsoil before. incredible and outrageous.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 17, 2014, 12:50 pm

        It wasn’t only topsoil, Annie, thieves are thieves and they stole just about anything in Lebanon; water, furniture, antiques and anything not nailed down. Their reputation is made with their searches of Palestinian homes. Not long ago we read in one of Kate’s stories how IDF soldiers searching a house had stolen the life’s savings of a seamstress. Haaretz is quoting an Israeli general telling his soldiers to steal food in Lebanon:

        Excerpt from Infowars:

        “… During the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, the Israelis stole everything not nailed down, including antiquities. “Lebanese minister of higher education and culture Mahmoud Youssef Beidoun said that Lebanon has prepared a file to demand Israel for returning back antiquities its forces had stolen from Lebanon during the past years,” reported the Arabic News on January 1, 2000.

        In addition to antiquities, the Israelis went so far as to “steal fertile Lebanese soil and transport it to settlements in northern Israel,” a brazen act investigated by UNIFIL’s leadership. “Israel has admitted the removing of Lebanese fertile soil from some areas inside the occupied border strip of South Lebanon to settlements in the occupied Galilee,” the Arabic News reported on November 11, 1998. “In its occupation of south Lebanon and destruction of many towns and efforts to loot Lebanese water resources, Israel has something new to steal, rich Lebanese top soil, and the Lebanese government has finally brought this issue to light,” the newspaper reported a few days later.

        In the Marjyoun area of Lebanon during Israel’s occupation, the Zionists siphoned off spring water. “Lebanese Prime Minister Salim al-Hoss on Monday discussed with Lebanese Parliament member Nazih Mansour, who is also a member of the al-Wafa bloc for resistance, Israel’s theft of Lebanese waters in order to irrigate its settlements Following the meeting with al-Hoss, Mansour said Israel has started stealing al-Hammad spring’s water in the Marjyoun area. He added that pipelines between the spring and northern Israel were erected at a length of seven kilometers and a depth of one and a half meters,” the Arabic News reported on June 22, 1999.

        In addition, the Israelis installed pumps to steal water from the al-Wazzani and Hasbani rivers. According to research conducted by David Paul, in “1982 one of the first acts of the Israeli invaders upon reaching Lake Qir’awn in Lebanon was to seize all the hydrographic data on the dam and the river and ship a complete set to Israel.”

        Of course, the Israelis have long planned to steal land and water. In 1919, Chaim Weizman wrote David Lloyd George, Britain’s prime minister, stating the “minimum requirements essential to the realization of the Jewish National Home” required massive theft:

        “The whole economic future of Palestine is dependent upon its water supply for irrigation and for electric power, and the water supply must mainly be derived from the slopes of Mount Hermon, from the headwaters of the Jordan and from the Litany [sic] river [of Lebanon]… [We] consider it essential that the Northern Frontier of Palestine should include the Valley of the Litany, for a distance of 25 miles above the bend, and the Western and Southern slopes of Mount Hermon…”

        It should come as no surprise the IOF, supposedly agreeing to a “ceasefire,” would steal Lebanese food. It should also come as no surprise this story was not covered by the corporate media in this country, as a Google News search returns results from Haaretz (linked above), the Jerusalem Post, and Stratfor (known as the “shadow CIA”), period.”

        http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/150806Food.htm

        More about the soil from the Chicago Tribune:

        “AROUND THE WORLD.
        Israelis Stealing Lebanon Topsoil
        November 10, 1998|By From Tribune News Services.

        JERUSALEM, ISRAEL — After initial denials, Israel confirmed Monday that Israelis have been stealing topsoil from southern Lebanon.

        A Foreign Ministry statement did not make clear whether those involved are Israeli soldiers. South Lebanon is off-limits to Israeli civilians, and the ministry said the army, as well as police, were investigating.

        Ministry spokesman Aviv Shiron said a first investigation showed that soil was taken from an area near the border for private purposes. Shiron said the ministry has not contacted the Lebanese government and wouldn’t do so until it has completed its inquiry.

        Last month, Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri wrote to the United Nations and the Arab League, asking them to prevent Israel from taking the topsoil.”

        http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-11-10/news/9811100126_1_lebanese-arab-league-investigating

  17. Naftush
    Naftush
    March 17, 2014, 4:43 am

    The “Ministerial Statement” outsources Lebanon’s sovereignty to “citizens,” which I take to mean civilians (guessing that the two are coterminous in Arabic, as they are in Hebrew). If it’s meant to imply that the government of Lebanon will not be a player in the “resistance,” it will not work; its being a government qua government makes it *the* player.

    • annie
      annie
      March 17, 2014, 11:23 am

      If it’s meant to imply………

      it isn’t.

      • Naftush
        Naftush
        March 18, 2014, 12:41 am

        I think it is. Israel has consistently held GOL responsible for hostile acts emanating from Lebanese territory. Here GOL shirks the responsibility, assigning the right to take such action, and the consequence, to “citizens.”

  18. bintbiba
    bintbiba
    March 17, 2014, 5:52 am

    Thank you annie, Taxi, tgia, tree !

  19. seafoid
    seafoid
    March 17, 2014, 12:43 pm

    Lebanon had nothing to do with the Shoah.
    Why doesn’t Israel ever invade Germany instead of Lebanon ?

    • Walid
      Walid
      March 17, 2014, 1:19 pm

      That’s what happens in a bully nation. Picks only on those weaker ones or on Palestinian women and stone-throwing children that they shoot and they cry. When confronted with the fighting men of Hizbullah, rather than shoot, they ran and they cried. About 5,000 trained Hizbullah fighters with a few thousand part-timers stopped 30,000 IDF soldiers in their tracks. It’s “rumoured” that the trained ones have multiplied 20-fold since 2006. They cut Israel’s appetite for a land invasion.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        March 17, 2014, 2:08 pm

        Now *that* was hilarious!
        Thanks for the laugh Walid.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        March 17, 2014, 4:18 pm

        the fact that anybody here finds the images of youths weeping over the loss of their comardes killed in action FUNNY or otherwise an entertaining sideshow pretty much sums up the number one and main reason why the conflict is intractable and will not be settled in the way any other conflict in the world has been settled.

        Also-it pretty much paints this MW site as aggressively warmongering in favour of taunting, humiliating (isn’t this the ‘great’ Arab weak spot?) and killing Jewish, Druze and Christian Israeli youths which kind of goes against all the PHONY ngo’s that have the word ‘peace’ in their acronyms. Peace, my ass. you people want blood as much as any group I have read commentary from-you just refuse to admit it.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 18, 2014, 2:29 pm

        DaBakr, that was a poor choice of video on my part; I was looking for a video showing the soldiers crying but not because of fallen comrades but simply because they were scared, wounded, hungry and abandoned by their officers during the 2006 war, and couldn’t find another with the crying soldiers. I had seen them crying on lengthy news report on channel 2 or channel 10 (dubbed in Arabic) that described that the soldiers were left in Lebanon without food and water and had to resort to stealing to stay alive or on potato chips and candy bars. Haaretz quoted a general suggesting to the soldiers to actually steal food while in Lebanon. You’re right, the video I posted is in poor taste and I apologize; it was in reaction to the now common Israeli expression on how Israeli soldiers cry while shooting Palestinians. I’ll continue trying to find the channel 2 or 10 documentary to post.

        A Wicki report says that tens of thousands of Israelis demonstrated in Rabin Square about the Government’s and the military command’s misconduct in the war that resulted in the Winnograd Commission:

        “… The demonstrators and other critics alleged significant shortcomings on both the military (led by the Northern Command) and civilian (led by the Home Front Command) fronts. On the latter, this involves the lengthy confinement to inadequate shelters and a lack of evacuation and government-led support, especially for those most in need. On the former, this involved criticisms from the logistical to the operative level. The reserve divisions especially, complained of a lack of or deficient equipment and basic necessities. The Israeli Chief of Staff, Dan Halutz, himself involved in a scandal over the sale of his investment portfolio three hours after the war began, admitted failures.[26] Earlier in the week, IDF Spokesperson clarified that a comment attributed to Israeli Technological and Logistics Directorate chief, Brigadier-General Avi Mizrahi, where he reportedly said that “if our fighters deep in Lebanese territory are left without food or water, I believe they can break into local Lebanese stores to solve that problem”, was not made by him.[27] On August 24, Minister of Defense Amir Peretz, called on the IDF to begin developing an anti-rocket system, potentially reviving the Nautilus Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser program which Israeli military experts such as Aluf Yitzhak Ben Yisrael had been calling for since its cancellation.[28]”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israeli_reserve_soldiers'_protest

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        March 18, 2014, 3:40 pm

        “the fact that anybody here finds the images of youths weeping over the loss of their comardes killed in action FUNNY or otherwise an entertaining sideshow pretty much sums up the number one and main reason why the conflict is intractable and will not be settled in the way any other conflict in the world has been settled.”

        But a sock in it. You zionists have been acting in the most inhumane ways towards the Palestinians for 70 years and you have the gall to suggest that you deserve even an ounce of human feeling for your fellows when you refuse to view your victims with that same ounce of humanity?? Maybe when you people stop oppressing the Palestinians, arresting their children for no reason and destroying thier lives, then you’ll be in a position to ask people not to make fun of the little idf weepy boys.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:43 pm

        the fact that anybody here finds the images of youths weeping over the loss of their comardes killed in action FUNNY or otherwise an entertaining sideshow pretty much sums up the number one and main reason why the conflict is intractable and will not be settled in the way any other conflict in the world has been settled.

        Oh please, get a life. The slide show was a snark and anyone with a brain should take it in jest. Pro Israeli sites are filled with vitriol and sick humour at the expense of Arabs, and their pain and suffering.

        You might want to go to ebay and try to pick up a bargain on a life.

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        March 18, 2014, 11:56 pm

        Taking the high moral ground, Dabakr? It was pretty obvious that they’re mourning the death of their, how do I say it, complicit in crime comrades. But we’ll take your peace-loving expressions seriously the day you denounce you gov’t’s charade pretending to negotiate for peace while still building more settlements and expanding the ones already built knowing full well that it’s a major obstacle to any meaningful agreement let alone peace. You see, we’re becoming so accustomed to your shenanigans and your monstrous aptitude for deception and trickery that our natural reaction is to laugh at the miseries, big or small, that come your way. Laughs do not kill, actions, like the entity which you support carry on on a daily basis, do.

      • annie
        annie
        March 17, 2014, 6:16 pm

        omg… from the description at the video

        Uploaded on Jun 3, 2009
        soldiers in all the world must be so brave or at least MEN but in the IDF ( by the way its not Isreali Defense Force
        its I Dont know how to FIGHT ) its different concept as in this vedio because they can have victory only when they
        bomb cities and buidlings full of women and children other than that they cry

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        March 17, 2014, 10:03 pm

        It’s a fact that the IOF strength is in organisation and in the vastly superior equipment and fire power, not in the determination to fight or individual courage or bravery which are the trademarks of Hizbullah fighters. When The latter are well equipped, and occasionally and increasingly they are, they make mince meat of the will to fight of anyone, IOF or other as has been demonstrated just this week in Yabrood. As soon as the Hizb set one foot forward in the direction of the city there were few rebels left to defend. ‘Sauve qui peut’ was the mot d’ordre..

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        March 17, 2014, 10:21 pm

        “determination to fight or individual courage or bravery which are the trademarks of Hizbullah fighters.”
        Not to mention outstanding discipline.

      • thankgodimatheist
        thankgodimatheist
        March 18, 2014, 12:09 am

        ‘Sauve qui peut’= Every man for himself.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 3:11 am

        About 5,000 trained Hizbullah fighters with a few thousand part-timers stopped 30,000 IDF soldiers in their tracks.

        Not only that Walid, but the elite Hizbullah fighters were not even called up.

  20. eljay
    eljay
    March 17, 2014, 1:48 pm

    >> When confronted with the fighting men of Hizbullah, rather than shoot, they ran and they cried.

    Brave Captain Israel and his most-robust Zio-supremacist soldiers must have been on vacation around that time, leaving guys like these Zio-supremacist dorks in charge.

  21. kma
    kma
    March 17, 2014, 8:13 pm

    impressive how this post (thanks, Annie) brought out the best/worst of the zionist extreme reactions! I think that’s awesome. more, please!
    as for the nitpicking over Hezbollah and Lebanon, there is no question that the worst crimes committed were Israeli bombings of Lebanon, and some of the the most heart-wrenching photos I have seen of the effects of war on human bodies and little babies were from those. Israel did it, and seems happy to do it again.
    Hezbollah, on the other hand, targets IDF. the whole world knows this. you can argue and spin and say what you want, but everyone knows.

    • Walid
      Walid
      March 17, 2014, 9:52 pm

      “Hezbollah, on the other hand, targets IDF. the whole world knows this. you can argue and spin and say what you want, but everyone knows.”

      Despite HRW report to the contrary, Jonathan Cook documented how in 2006 Hizbullah actually targeted IDF military sites rather than civilian ones. Several civilians had been killed or injured by Hizbullah rockets and some were Palestinian but this was because the IDF shelling batteries had taken position in Palestinian-Israeli villages close to the border.

      • roqayya
        roqayya
        March 17, 2014, 11:27 pm

        It looks like Walid, Taxi, Annie and all of the regulars put everyone who decided to omit history, speak on behalf of the Lebanese, etc. in their place. Nice to see you all back at it!

        I would scroll up and respond to the asinine commentary by the one individual who decided to expound upon what we Lebanese do and do not want but that would take an essay reply. It is time these people learn to hold their tongues. As someone who’s village was liberated along with countless others I can tell you what we want in the south of Lebanon: our resistance. And the TOTAL liberation of Palestine. And oh is it coming.

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 18, 2014, 3:18 pm

        Roqaya, come down from orbit, I was a volunteer during the war and under some of the shit that was falling and not sitting in a far-away safe place as you’re guessing. You’re welcome to correct whatever commentary you felt asinine without the need of a drum roll. On May 26th, I most probably drove through your liberated village like I did with many other villages to celebrate with the people. I hope your forthcoming bombshell of an essay will describe what you did on that glorious day.

      • roqayya
        roqayya
        March 18, 2014, 11:20 pm

        Lol Walid you misunderstood me! I was talking about the comments you all responded to as being asinine not the ones you all made!

      • annie
        annie
        March 18, 2014, 11:27 pm

        nice to hear from you roqaya. thanks!

      • Walid
        Walid
        March 18, 2014, 11:55 pm

        Sorry I misread your comment, Roqaya; on reading it more carefully, I see I was the one that went into orbit. I look forwards to reading another of your great essays.

      • Naftush
        Naftush
        March 18, 2014, 12:46 am

        Fact fail.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War
        “During the war, the Hezbollah rocket force fired between 3,970 and 4,228 rockets at a rate of more than 100 per day, unprecedented since the Iran-Iraq war. About 95% of these were 122 mm (4.8 in) Katyusha artillery rockets, which carried warheads up to 30 kg (66 lb) and had a range of up to 30 km (19 mi). An estimated 23% of these rockets hit cities and built-up areas across northern Israel, while the remainder hit open areas.
        “Cities hit were Haifa, Hadera, Nazareth, Tiberias, Nahariya, Safed, Shaghur, Afula, Kiryat Shmona, Beit She’an, Karmiel, Acre, and Ma’alot-Tarshiha, as well as dozens of towns, kibbutzim, moshavim, and Druze and Israeli-Arab villages. The northern West Bank was also hit.”

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 4:55 pm

        “During the war, the Hezbollah rocket force fired between 3,970 and 4,228 rockets at a rate of more than 100 per day, unprecedented since the Iran-Iraq war.

        How can that be unprecedented when Israel fired close to 177,000 thousand into Lebanon?

        “The Israeli Armed Forces (IDF) launched 5,000 missiles, five-ton bunker-buster bombs and cluster bombs as well as anti-personnel phosphorus bombs each day into Lebanon for 27 days — totaling over 135,000 missiles, bombs and artillery shells. During the last seven days of the war Israel launched 6,000 bombs and shells per day — over 42,000, for a grand total of 177,000 over a heavily populated territory the size of the smallest state in the US. In contrast, the Lebanese national resistance launched 4,000 rockets during the entire 34-day period, an average of 118 per day. The ratio was 44 to 1 — without mentioning the size differentials, the long-term killing effects of the thousands of un-exploded cluster bombs (nearly 50 killed or maimed since the end of hostilities) and Israel’s scorched earth military incursion.”

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        March 18, 2014, 3:14 am

        Despite HRW report to the contrary, Jonathan Cook documented how in 2006 Hizbullah actually targeted IDF military sites rather than civilian ones.

        Very true. In fact, that IDF were shocked that Hezbollah rockets struck a secret, fortified comms base that the Israelis thought was untouchable.

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