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Video: Israeli soldiers detain 6-year-old child on his way to school in Hebron

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This video was shot this morning by the International Solidarity Movement in Hebron. They explain the scene:

At approximately 7 am this morning, Rami Rajabi, a six-year-old child, was 20 meters away from checkpoint 29 when he threw several pebbles in al-Khalil (Hebron).

As Rami walked away towards his school, three Israeli soldiers burst out of an alleyway, grabbed his arm, and detained him in the street.

After approximately 20 minutes of pressure from locals and activists, the child was released and was taken home by a friend of his family.

The video ends by reminding viewers there are currently 230 Palestinian children in Israeli detention.

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  1. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    April 23, 2014, 12:24 pm

    This is pure sadism.
    Who takes a child?!

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      April 23, 2014, 9:46 pm

      Amazing that these heavily armed men are so threatened by a 6 year old boy. This is beyond sickening. Zionism is a sickness and Israel is beyond help.

  2. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    April 23, 2014, 12:31 pm

    Clearly the child is a threat to the state of Israel. Truly sad.

  3. marty_mcfly
    marty_mcfly
    April 23, 2014, 12:56 pm

    Disgust was my first reaction too but, bizarre as this might sound when I was watching the video I suddenly felt a stab of pity for the soldiers. I honestly don’t know why but I recalled a passage from this essay by George Orwell in which he talks about the hollowness and futility of colonial domination and it dawned on me for perhaps the first time that while it is the Netanyahus and Adelsons who make these terrible choices from the safety of their ivory towers, it is more often than not twenty-something kids who get sent to do their dirty work. It must be a truly terrifying, depressing, soul-wrenching experience and I’m glad that on this occasion, the soldiers’ humanity seemed eventually to triumph over racist indoctrination, and they released the child.

    (George Orwell essay: http://www.george-orwell.org/Shooting_an_Elephant/0.html)

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      April 23, 2014, 1:12 pm

      “it is more often than not twenty-something kids who get sent to do their dirty work. ”

      They’re adults and responsible for their own acts. They choose to don that uniform, they chose not to refuse to take part in the occupation, they choose to carry out orders to terrorize civilians and inflict racist Zionist policies, and they chose here to arrest a six-year old. In so doing, they chose to be war criminals and perpetrators of crimes against humanity. I feel no pity for them whatsoever. They should be tried for their actions. All of them.

      “I’m glad that on this occasion, the soldiers’ humanity seemed eventually to triumph over racist indoctrination, and they released the child.”

      I doubt it was “humanity” as much as it was the fact that the superior officers must have understood how bad it looked given the fact that the incident was being reported.

      • April 23, 2014, 7:08 pm

        Many times they have in fact chosen to move from their home country to Israel and so have actively chosen to take part in the Occupation and Oppression. Of course, such folks have been subject to a lifetime of Zionist indoctrination so, although not deserving of pity, we can understand how they are like they are.

      • Kathleen
        Kathleen
        April 24, 2014, 2:29 pm

        When ethno centrism and racism are part of your indoctrination sometimes tough to shake off. When the conscience is left out of a persons development a humanitarian spirit is tough to cultivate later on in life. But it can and has been done.

      • Daniel Rich
        Daniel Rich
        April 23, 2014, 7:16 pm

        @ Woody Tanaka,

        Q: They’re adults and responsible for their own acts.

        R: As much as I agree with the gist of that line, honesty triggers a response along another line; when I was that age [teen/early twenties], I was way more sensitive to outside influences than I am today. Do not underestimate the environment these youngsters grow up in. My friend Avi said years ago, “I don’t know what happens to me, but once I get off the plane @ Ben Gurion, I immediately go into ‘combat mode.'”

        And he is one of the most peaceful men I know…

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        April 24, 2014, 1:19 am

        “honesty triggers a response along another line; when I was that age [teen/early twenties], I was way more sensitive to outside influences than I am today.”

        As was I, but I still would not have done aomething I believed to be immoral. If you are correct then we should stop prosecuting all Nazis including those that actually pulled the triggers.

    • talknic
      talknic
      April 23, 2014, 1:26 pm

      If they were truly terrified, depressed, soul-wrenched, these twenty-somethings could say no.

      “.. the soldiers’ humanity seemed eventually to triumph over racist indoctrination, and they released the child”

      They seem to be taking orders… Soldier, radio, “habla habla” .. not hard to figure

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail
        April 23, 2014, 3:47 pm

        They could join Breaking the Silence, and I hope they do.

    • marty_mcfly
      marty_mcfly
      April 23, 2014, 2:19 pm

      You both make excellent points and I’ve no doubt your hebrew is a lot better than mine!

      However I don’t agree that you have to condone someone’s actions in order to feel pity for them, or acknowledge them as complex human beings who may be responding to range of different influences. I also fail to see the juxtaposition between holding someone accountable for their actions and attempting to empathise with them, as if you can only ever do one or the other. On the contrary, I think it preferable to do both to the fullest extent possible.

      • MRW
        MRW
        April 23, 2014, 2:50 pm

        @marty_mcfly,

        They are occupying soldiers. The empathy should be forthcoming from the soldiers for those under their care.

      • marty_mcfly
        marty_mcfly
        April 23, 2014, 3:31 pm

        “The empathy”? The single source of empathy permissible in any given situation? What on earth are you talking about?

        You know, perhaps if proponents of justice and human rights for Palestinians, and other victims of the Israeli regime, like us (us meaning proponents, not victims) were capable of showing a little more nuance and, dare I say, common sense in articulating our positions, our opponents would not find it quite so easy to paint themselves absurdly, but somehow without any significant challenge in the MSM, as the “pro-Israel” side when in fact it is *we* who are advocating in the best interests of Israel, in stark constrast to so-called supporters like Schumer, Anthony Weiner and Brad Sherman whose fanaticism has encouraged the nation along the path to international isolation and domestic extremism.

        But the conversation never gets to that stage does it? All it takes is for some weasel like the aforementioned to say something along the lines of “Israel’s wonderful and so’s the IDF”, then someone like you wades in with your size nines and casually lumps together the hundreds of thousands of people that make up the IDF as one big pile of evil, and job done – they’re “pro”, we’re “anti”. I’m not saying that dynamic can change over night but why make it sooo easy for them to shape the conversation this way?

      • annie
        annie
        April 23, 2014, 6:03 pm

        someone like you wades in with your size nines and casually lumps together the hundreds of thousands of people that make up the IDF as one big pile of evil

        you’re funny. actually someone like you just waded in and with your size nines and dropped a “pile of evil” comment, no one else did. we get it, you watched the video and feel pity for the soldiers. you wanna focus on their humanity and what a relief it is they didn’t “triumph over racist indoctrination”.

        whereas it is quite rational to consider the very presence of the occupation soldiers dragging off a child to begin with as racist at it’s core. so why not argue your point on it’s (alleged) merit? why transform The empathy should be forthcoming from the soldiers for those under their care.
        into “big pile of evil”?

        how would you like me to paraphrase you? put words in your mouth? if , as you claim, “Disgust” was your first reaction, please elaborate on that disgust. because frankly, i’m unconvinced.

      • annie
        annie
        April 23, 2014, 6:09 pm

        what about the soldiers who lay in wait, in the bush like hunters watching their prey and murdered a 14 year old child. you pity them too? pity their brainwashed little souls who kill children like shooting rabbits? or didn’t you hear about it?

        http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.581532
        http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.582534
        http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/twilight-zone/.premium-1.583667

        killing, abducting, maiming, terrorizing children is coward’s work.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2013/12/standing-outside-refugee.html

        why pity these soldiers? why not shame them? instead, you argue by paraphrasing your ideological opponents position? phff.

        What on earth are you talking about?

        protecting children is common sense and common instinct.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2012/10/i-am-you.html

        Two steps: one, two.
        ‏Look in the mirror:
        ‏The horror, the horror!
        ‏The butt of your M-16 on my cheekbone
        ‏The yellow patch it left
        ‏The bullet-shaped scar expanding
        ‏Like a swastika,
        ‏Snaking across my face,
        ‏The heartache flowing
        ‏Out of my eyes dripping
        ‏Out of my nostrils piercing
        ‏My ears flooding
        ‏The place.
        ‏Like it did to you
        ‏70 years ago
        ‏Or so.

        ‏I am just you.
        ‏I am your past haunting
        ‏Your present and your future.
        ‏I strive like you did.
        ‏I fight like you did.
        ‏I resist like you resisted
        ‏And for a moment,
        ‏I’d take your tenacity
        ‏As a model,
        ‏Were you not holding
        ‏The barrel of the gun
        ‏Between my bleeding
        ‏Eyes.

        One. Two.
        ‏The very same gun
        ‏The very same bullet
        ‏That had killed your Mom
        ‏ And killed your Dad
        ‏Is being used,
        ‏Against me,
        ‏By you.

        ‏Mark this bullet and mark in your gun.
        ‏If you sniff it, it has your and my blood.
        ‏It has my present and your past.
        ‏It has my present.
        ‏It has your future.
        ‏That’s why we are twins,
        ‏Same life track
        ‏Same weapon
        ‏Same suffering
        ‏Same facial expressions drawn
        ‏On the face of the killer,
        ‏Same everything
        ‏Except that in your case
        ‏The victim has evolved, backward,
        ‏Into a victimizer.
        ‏I tell you.
        ‏I am you.
        ‏Except that I am not the you of now.

        ‏I do not hate you.
        ‏I want to help you stop hating
        ‏And killing me.
        ‏I tell you:
        ‏The noise of your machine gun
        ‏Renders you deaf
        ‏The smell of the powder
        ‏Beats that of my blood.
        ‏The sparks disfigure
        ‏My facial expressions.
        ‏Would you stop shooting?
        ‏For a moment?
        ‏Would you?

        ‏All you have to do
        ‏Is close your eyes
        ‏(Seeing these days
        ‏Blinds our hearts.)
        ‏Close your eyes, tightly
        ‏So that you can see
        ‏In your mind’s eye.
        ‏Then look into the mirror.
        ‏One. Two.
        ‏I am you.
        ‏I am your past.
        ‏And killing me,
        ‏You kill you.

      • kalithea
        kalithea
        April 23, 2014, 9:20 pm

        Traumatizing a child is a heinous act. There is no middle ground, no grey area here. I have no pity for those thugs abusing that child’s rights in this way; and quit trying to spin it! There should be zero tolerance for military aggression and abuse against children! No doubt the trauma inflicted on this vulnerable child will leave serious scars.

      • RudyM
        RudyM
        April 23, 2014, 11:40 pm

        IDF soldiers deserve bullets, not sympathy. Sorry if that shows lack of nuance. I am not particularly representative of those on the pro-Palestinian side.

      • puppies
        puppies
        April 24, 2014, 1:11 am

        @mcfly – You wade in with your webbed duck feet in a full-scale, all-out war by a major colonial power, started in November 1947, against a totally defenseless civilian population and try to tell us about hurt soldier feelings?
        Do you understand the word “war”? As in total destruction?
        If you do, you’ll know that fraternizing with the enemy is a crime in the eyes of the victim populations. I don’t care about the feelings of that bastard with the Azrael uniform, he should be taken out according to the right and duty given in international law to invaded populations to defend themselves by any means. Not “shamed”: if he had any shame he would have deserted.

      • marty_mcfly
        marty_mcfly
        April 25, 2014, 9:11 am

        Annie,

        Thank you for responding.

        Do you get it? I’m not sure we’re on the same page. I was simply refuting opposition to my comment that I felt a surprising stab of pity for the IDF soldiers in the video.

        Is that what you’re disagreeing with? Is that the intimated meaning of the “what about…” list? Isn’t that simply an extension of what the other commenters said? That the IDF are guilty of all sorts of terrible crimes and that therefore every single member of the IDF must be evil, a war criminal, or at the very least, cannot be empathised with?

        Are you quite sure it is me who is transforming the meaning of the comment “The empathy should be forthcoming from the soldiers”? Surely the meaning is plain; I should not feel empathy for those men, instead they should feel empathy for the child.

        It is the juxtaposition of that statement that I disagree with, not the truth of the latter half. I find the false exclusivity that you allege, between shaming and pitying, equally nonsensical. Does shaming someone not count as “holding someone accountable for their actions”? Did I not already state that the soldiers should be held accountable, even as I said that I felt pity for them?

        It is also the implication that I am somehow arguing that the soldiers shouldn’t feel for their victims, or as the commenter euphemistically put it, “those under their care” that prompted my admittedly waspish response about the size nines. I’d probably feel a bit sheepish about that now but any feeling of remorse is tempered by my fury at what I’ve just read:

        “how would you like me to paraphrase you? put words in your mouth? if, as you claim, “Disgust” was your first reaction, please elaborate on that disgust. because frankly, i’m unconvinced.”

        What are you accusing me of? Are you seriously suggesting that anyone could watch a 6 year old, sobbing and obviously beyond terrified, being led away by soldiers, anything other than utterly repugnant? I doubt even the most committed Zionist could watch that video and not feel for the child. Anything else would be positively sub-human. It’s an outrageous statement to level at me purely on the basis of what I wrote above.

        Allow me to respond by asking one or two questions of you. Are you capable of the nuance required to feel pity or even empathy for people whose actions you condemn? Do you believe that someone who gives every indication of being a ‘good’ person might be capable of doing terrible things? Or do you take a more George Bush Jr-like world view that casually disregards evidence such as the Milgram experiment in favour of a nice, simplified ‘good vs. evil’ approach?

        Since you appear ready to condemn every single IDF soldier personally for the actions of the IDF generally, let me ask you this? Do you also condemn every, single US soldier for the actions of that military generally? I won’t bore you with a list of links to incidents of torture, murder, kidnap and other US atrocities since to do so would be patronising and arrogant.

        I hope you find time to respond, I would genuinely like to know the answer to that last question. If the answer is yes, at least you are consistent. If the answer is no, I’d love to hear your explanation for the discrepancy.

        My final word on the subject is this.

        @MRW, thank you for responding to my comment. My response about the “size nines” was heartfelt but flippant. I apologise.

        @Annie, I’ve been a Mondoweiss reader for some years. I actually thought I had met you once, when I bought a copy of the Goldstone report at a debate organised by Mondoweiss at the 92nd st YMJA. I later noted that you live in California and doubted that it could’ve been you but in any case, I was awe-struck at the time. Frankly I’m dismayed by what you’ve written above. Apart from anything else, to find myself squabbling with you and others when we clearly agree on so much feels counterproductive and even self-indulgent at the expense of the cause we are attempting to unite behind. I intend to make every effort to conduct future discussions with grace and respect rather than flippancy and baseless accusation. I hope you will do the same.

        Yours faithfully, Martin

      • Walker
        Walker
        April 23, 2014, 4:49 pm

        Well said, marty.

      • Daniel Rich
        Daniel Rich
        April 23, 2014, 7:26 pm

        @ Annie Robbins,

        Q: …pity their brainwashed little souls who kill children like shooting rabbits?

        R: The Army doesn’t need individual, thinking souls. Those grueling 13 weeks going through boot camp are all about erasing personal thoughts and meant to instill an automated, violent response to ‘them’ attacking/hurting ‘us.’

        There’s no excuse for what they’re doing, but there has to be a reason, even if I abhor that illogical rationale myself. I’ve done enough ‘evil’ back in the day, to know otherwise.

      • peeesss
        peeesss
        April 24, 2014, 3:15 am

        Thank you , Annie. Thank you.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      April 23, 2014, 6:40 pm

      And Netanyahu was doing very similar things and much worse at the age of these soldiers. Those in power positions in Israel are well aware of what results that they want from these repetitive and systematic forms of abuse.

    • eGuard
      eGuard
      April 23, 2014, 7:40 pm

      marty_mcfly: pity for the soldiers

      That’s what Tom Friedman got his Pulitzer for, reporting the Sabra & Shatila massacre.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      April 23, 2014, 8:41 pm

      “it is more often than not twenty-something kids who get sent to do their dirty work.”

      Twenty-somethings are old enough to decide for themselves. When I was twenty (in the era when twenty-one was voting age) the Australian Government told me to join the army and go to Vietnam. I refused, and successfully pled conscientious objection. Not all my contemporaries were successful in gaining CO status, and some went to prison while others fled the country. For all of us, of course, our career prospects were severely damaged.

      In Israel too there are twenty-somethings who can decide for themselves whether they are going to do the right thing or not.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      April 24, 2014, 12:56 am

      Sympathy misplaced. These are Israel’s thugs who terrorize little kids, and who viciously shoot unarmed civilians who dare stand near their fences. One of the latest victims being a mentally ill woman, and a poor man picking gravel for his living.
      Then let us not forget the poor Jordanian judge, killed at a checkpoint.
      There is no excuse for this disgusting behavior against little kids. I have seen videos of kids being used as human shields by the IDF (while Hamas is accused of it), and many other kids being arrested in this cruel fashion. This has resulted in a high percentage of kids suffering from trauma, depression, and stress. Shame, considering little Israeli children live better lives, and do not have to go through such suffering, like their neighbors.
      Science Daily:
      Ninety-eight Percent Of Gaza’s Children Experience Or Witness War Trauma

      “Most children in the Gaza Strip have been tear gassed, have had their homes searched and damaged, and have witnessed shooting, fighting and explosions. Many have been injured or tortured as a result of chronic war that spans generations, says a recent Queen’s University study.
      According to the study, there is a pattern of violence against Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip that has serious and debilitating psychiatric and psychological effects.
      “Gaza has been an occupied territory for a long time, and still is; Israel controls its borders, its air and water access. It has been described as a vast open-air detention centre” says Queen’s community health and epidemiology researcher John Pringle. “Bombs are being launched into Gaza during this latest eruption of Middle East violence, but are being ignored in light of other crises.”
      The Psychological Effects of War on Palestinian Children is Pringle’s Master’s thesis and the only study of its kind, analyzing data from The Gaza Child Health Survey to describe relationships between war trauma and psychological problems in children.
      According to the study, a child in Gaza who has had a severe head injury has 4 times the risk of emotional disorder. A child who has been severely beaten has 3.9 times the risk of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. A child who has witnessed friends injured or killed has 13 times the risk of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. A child in a refugee camp has 5 times a greater chance of witnessing traumatic events and 4 times a greater chance of direct physical trauma.
      “Children comprise 47 per cent of Gaza’s population and are extremely vulnerable,” Pringle adds. “It seems the international community is neglecting them, that somehow Palestinian children don’t deserve the protections guaranteed under the Geneva Convention and humanitarian law. We must remember that where we drop our bombs, plant our landmines, and aim our guns, is where children are born, play, and go to school.”
      Mr. Pringle is also a member of Doctors Without Borders (MSF). MSF is an emergency medical humanitarian aid organization that primarily works in war-zones with populations in danger, usually in refugee camps. It was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1999.

    • amigo
      amigo
      April 24, 2014, 6:32 am

      “It must be a truly terrifying, depressing, soul-wrenching experience and I’m glad that on this occasion, the soldiers’ humanity seemed eventually to triumph over racist indoctrination, and they released the child.”marty- mcfly

      Yeah, facing down a 6 year old heavily armed Terro-eeest must be truly horrific and soul destroying.

      Oh my , those poor idf thugs.My heart bleeds for them.

      When do you move from the usual softly softly initial approach to full blown hasbara attack.

  4. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    April 23, 2014, 2:41 pm

    This abusive treatment of Palestinian children by the IDF (and they are on good behavior because they know they are being filmed) and illegal settlers has been going on for decades….decades. Dear friend Art Gish who used to walk Palestinian children in the Hebron area to school. He witnessed such abuse. He talked about illegal settlers spitting on Palestinian kids.

  5. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    April 23, 2014, 2:46 pm

    IDF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bdbA2Ka3Bo
    Many more video’s at you tube

    IDF soldiers talk about their training and the abuse of Palestinian children.

    http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

    Goal to break their spirits. Systematically humiliate and abuse them

  6. MRW
    MRW
    April 23, 2014, 2:46 pm

    Pigs.

  7. philweiss
    philweiss
    April 23, 2014, 2:52 pm

    Truly chilling. How many American congresspeople who fund this will see it?
    And note the checkpoint at the end. It keeps Palestinians from walking through parts of that city.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      April 24, 2014, 2:25 am

      I wondered the same thing about Congresspeople, and why they “seem” ignorant about the horrible violence against little children, and other brutal crimes, as they consistently shower the love, devotion, and endless aid, to those who do such despicable things to innocent people. This is inhumane behavior, and no religion would condone this.

  8. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    April 23, 2014, 3:26 pm

    Hey Phil you think Terry Gross one of the people you consider to be “one of the best interviewers around” will be doing a story on this abuse or any interviews with the witnesses of this abuse by the IDF’s and illegal settlers abuse of Palestinian children on her program? Been going on for decades. You can be sure if the tables were turned and these were Jewish children being abused daily by Palestinians she would be all over the story.

    You had to be kidding the other day when you said that about Gross right?

  9. RoHa
    RoHa
    April 23, 2014, 6:49 pm

    Phew! Another grave threat to the State of Israel averted by the alertness and courage of the noble soldiers of the IDF.

  10. eGuard
    eGuard
    April 23, 2014, 6:53 pm

    No subtitles? This is internet.

  11. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    April 23, 2014, 7:06 pm

    The stench of death is universal. Once you’ve mastered that smell, you’ll recognize it instantly, no matter where you are. So, when the Apartheid State rolls out that bloated corpse they so happily refer to as the ‘Palestinian Peace Process ‘Slash’ Negotiations,’ I know time has come to finally bury the bugger and arrest the squatters in the Funeral Parlor for impersonating Doves, whilst blood is slithering down the aisles from their bloodstained claws.

  12. Mayhem
    Mayhem
    April 23, 2014, 9:41 pm

    Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist. Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?

    “The enlistment of children to carry out these violent acts is in effect no different than enlisting child soldiers, which is a war crime in terms of Article 8(2)(b)(xxvi) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC)”.

    And of course it makes great propaganda for the ISM who just love to demonize Israel at every conceivable opportunity.

    http://www.thetower.org/analysts-palestinians-committing-war-crime-by-pushing-stone-hurling-children-at-israelis/

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      April 23, 2014, 10:53 pm

      I seem to recall throwing a stone or two when I was a child. No doubt that is why I am now an internationally wanted terrorist, currently being hunted down by Interpol and the security forces of forty-two countries.

    • talknic
      talknic
      April 23, 2014, 11:13 pm

      @ Mayhem “Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist.”

      “will” . You can predict the future…. What AMAZING powers!!! Jews went beyond ‘potential’ terrorism BTW http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/releases/2006/march/jewish.htm

      Meanwhile, the occupied have a right to attack occupying forces with whatever they have at their disposal, even life threatening pebbles. Armed Israeli settlers and Israeli military are legitimate targets, it isn’t terrorism, even if it is with pebbles http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/24/palestinian-statehood-tension-settlers

      “Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?”

      You have any evidence the kid was encouraged? Do you have any evidence he actually threw anything at all at the occupying forces? Remember if you’re allowed, accusations are not evidence.

      Meanwhile http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/12/51427217.jpg

      The occupation is belligerent, they have a right to resist occupation, even with scary pebbles

      “The enlistment of children to carry out these violent acts is in effect no different than enlisting child soldiers, which is a war crime in terms of Article 8(2)(b)(xxvi) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC)”.

      A) How was this kid enlisted? By your amazing powers maybe? B) Apply that equally to the stone throwing children of illegal Israeli settlers if you dare

      “And of course it makes great propaganda for the ISM who just love to demonize Israel at every conceivable opportunity.”

      How is it propaganda? Fake Israeli soldiers? Israel successfully demonizes itself every day it continues to illegally acquire, stay in and illegally settle non-Israeli territory while LYING to itself, its citizens and the rest of the world, supported by morons for Israel who it seems can predict the future

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        April 24, 2014, 2:46 am

        You have any evidence the kid was encouraged? Do you have any evidence he actually threw anything at all at the occupying forces? Remember if you’re allowed, accusations are not evidence.

        Seriously, has Mayhem seen a 6 year old throw anything? At that age, only 1 in 10 kids have the motor skills to throw properly.

    • Hostage
      Hostage
      April 23, 2014, 11:44 pm

      Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist. Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?

      If we’re going to speculate, maybe he will grow-up and track down Jewish war criminals and write FAQs like this one:

      30. Did the Jews try to fight against the Nazis? To what extent were such efforts successful?
      Answer: Despite the difficult conditions to which Jews were subjected in Nazi-occupied Europe, many engaged in armed resistance against the Nazis. This resistance can be divided into three basic types of armed activities: ghetto revolts, resistance in concentration and death camps, and partisan warfare.

      The Warsaw Ghetto revolt, which lasted for about five weeks beginning on April 19, 1943, is probably the best-known example of armed Jewish resistance, but there were many ghetto revolts in which Jews fought against the Nazis.

      Despite the terrible conditions in the death, concentration, and labor camps, Jewish inmates fought against the Nazis at the following sites: Treblinka (August 2, 1943); Babi Yar (September 29, 1943); Sobibór (October 14, 1943); Janówska (November 19, 1943); and Auschwitz (October 7, 1944).

      Jewish partisan units were active in many areas, including Baranovichi, Minsk, Naliboki forest, and Vilna. While the sum total of armed resistance efforts by Jews was not militarily overwhelming and did not play a significant role in the defeat of Nazi Germany, these acts of resistance did lead to the rescue of an undetermined number of Jews, Nazi casualties, and untold damage to German property and self-esteem.
      http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394663#30

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        April 24, 2014, 12:18 am

        Drawing parallels between the partisans who fought the Nazis and the Palestinians’ situation is truly perverse. @Hostage, I thought you wouldn’t stoop so low as many here witlessly do.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        April 24, 2014, 9:26 am

        Drawing parallels between the partisans who fought the Nazis and the Palestinians’ situation is truly perverse.

        No, it’s appropriate – it simply exposed your hypocrisy and double standards.

        Have you ever thrown stones Mayhem? Are you a terrorist?

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        April 24, 2014, 10:36 am

        @Mayhem
        Drawing parallels between 6 yr olds who throw pebbles at heavily armed occupation soldiers and terrorists is truly perverse.
        However, it is to be expected that someone like yourself *would* stoop this low.

      • Hostage
        Hostage
        April 24, 2014, 12:17 pm

        Drawing parallels between the partisans who fought the Nazis and the Palestinians’ situation is truly perverse.

        Well let us just see about that. Israel’s Prime Ministers have admitted that Israel started several wars of choice after it became a party to the UN Charter, which prohibits wars of choice:

        (a) CRIMES AGAINST PEACE: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;

        A number of UN organs, the Red Cross, international fact finding missions, and NGOs have condemned the illegal colonization, torture and imprisonment, home demolitions, ethnic cleansing, massacres, deportations, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and acts of genocide committed against Deir Yassin, Sabra, Shatila, Jenin, Beit Hanoun, and more than 400 other Palestinian communities or refugee camps:

        (b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;

        (c)CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

        — See Charter of the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art6

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      April 24, 2014, 1:08 am

      Why did the illegal settlers allow/encourage their youth to throw rocks at little Palestinian kids going to school, burn Mosques, slash tires, spray paint racist graffiti, and fire bomb cars? What makes YOU the judge of little kids, and call them potential terrorists? How about the terrorist activities of the illegal settlers?

      No one needs to “demonize” Israel. By it’s occupation, crimes against kids and unarmed civilians, land grabs, and the violence shown by the brutal IDF, Israel is doing a “superb” job of showing the world it deserves the harshest criticism. No wonder it is one of the most dislike nations in the world.

      • Kathleen
        Kathleen
        April 24, 2014, 2:33 pm

        The hate and racism cultivated in illegal settlers kids is far more serious than Palestinian kids throwing pebbles or rocks at illegal settlers and the IDF who protect them after they have stolen and are settling on that stolen land. A huge difference. What would you want to do to people who stole your home or land and were living in that home or on that land?

    • talknic
      talknic
      April 24, 2014, 2:04 am

      @ Mayhem “Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist. “

      Got any statistics to back your biased speculation

      BTW our link to thetower.org is cute.. It says “Palestinians Committing War Crime By Pushing Stone-Hurling Children At Israelis” then shows a video where no one is pushing any children to throw rocks. When we follow the link they provide http://www.jpost.com/National-News/IDF-releases-video-of-Hebron-kids-throwing-stones-308226 we read ” The IDF on Saturday posted a 45 second video that showed Palestinian children and young teens throwing stones at the Israeli military in Hebron ”

      No enlistment, no pushing and Israeli military in occupied territory, a valid military target even if the kids had bazookas instead of what’s left of their non-Jewish homes = another fail on your part and no points for your stupid Israeli propaganda

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      April 24, 2014, 2:40 am

      Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist.

      Does that to for Jewish children or only Arabs Mathem?

      Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?

      You are seriously out if your mind. Have you ever thrown stones Mayhem? I have a 4 year old son and one of his favorite things to do is go down to the harbor foreshore and throw stones into the water.

      Are you suggesting Ismencouraging belligerent activities and training him to be a terrorist?

    • Ecru
      Ecru
      April 24, 2014, 2:56 am

      @ Mayhem

      “Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist.”

      And you get offended when people compare you and your kind to Nazis? It’s just the truth and you obviously just can’t handle the truth.

    • amigo
      amigo
      April 24, 2014, 6:18 am

      “The enlistment of children to carry out these violent acts is in effect no different than enlisting child soldiers, which is a war crime in terms of Article 8(2)(b)(xxvi) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC)”.mayhem

      Who enlisted them???.

      And you a racist zio apologist for the war crimes capital (TA) of the world dares to quote Rome Statute.

      “And of course it makes great propaganda for the ISM who just love to demonize Israel at every conceivable opportunity.”mayhem

      And of course the demon (Israel) keeps on giving every conceivable opportunity.Put the shovel down , the trench is about to fall in on you.Second thoughts—keep digging .

    • eljay
      eljay
      April 24, 2014, 7:23 am

      Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist. Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?
      . . .
      And of course it makes great propaganda for the ISM who just love to demonize Israel at every conceivable opportunity.

      Why do Zio-supremacist parents allow/encourage their children to engage in aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder? Why have they been allowing/encouraging their children to engage in these kinds of belligerent activities for over 60 years?

      And of course the reaction of Palestinians to the belligerent activities of Zio-supremacists and their children makes great propaganda for Zio-supremacists everywhere who just love to demonize the “Pallys” and the “Aye-rabs” at every conceivable opportunity.

    • iResistDe4iAm
      iResistDe4iAm
      April 24, 2014, 7:23 am

      Mayhem says:
      “Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?”

      Israeli Settlers Stone AFP Photographer’s Car
      http://www.imemc.org/article/67199

      Settlers attack Palestinian vehicles with stones near Bethlehem
      http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=642038

      Settler rampage forces Palestinian school lockdown
      http://www.salon.com/2013/10/09/settler_rampage_forces_palestinian_school_lockdown/

      PA official: Settlers attack vehicles in Nablus
      http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=627850

      Hundreds of Jews hurl rocks at cars in Jerusalem
      http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/hundreds-of-jews-hurl-rocks-at-cars-in-jerusalem-1.466873

      Woman hurt in settler attack near Nablus
      http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=457118

      Jewish rock-throwers are more equal
      http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/jewish-rock-throwers-are-more-equal-1.401263

      West Bank: Jewish teens hurl stones at cars
      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4148832,00.html

      Settlers Stone Elderly Palestinian Lady
      http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=17912

    • LeaNder
      LeaNder
      April 24, 2014, 7:46 am

      @ Mayhem “Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist.”

      This is a very, very shortsighted position. Of cause not if terrorism against the Jewish state has to has to stay forever. Yes, I know, this is cynical. In that case you indeed better recruit them really early, train prospects in special units. Study how long they can bear humiliation from early on. Ideally monitor every “false” gesture by kids and send out troopers to arrest prospects.

      Less cynical: There may be a circle movement where the desire for heightened security and control wind up on the other side and helps to produce exactly what is expected or feared.

      From what I remember throwing pebbles was kids past time over here to. I most vividly remember the masters of stone skipping. I would assume Israeli boys are allowed to do that to? No?

      What is your evidence that he was already training to later attack your Jewish IDF or settler brothers heads with stones? Israel is the most moral army in the world?

    • Flitcraft
      Flitcraft
      April 24, 2014, 6:47 pm

      Those soldiers should go back to Israel.

      Problem solved.

  13. Accentitude
    Accentitude
    April 24, 2014, 2:28 am

    In addition to the 230 children whom are currently detained in Israel, there have been 1,500 children killed by Israel since 2000. Imagine if you lived in the United States or the UK and 1,500 American or English children were violently killed in 14 years. What kind of outrage would result? Most of these victims are documented thoroughly on this website: http://www.rememberthesechildren.org

    It should also be noted what it means to be “detained” by the Israelis. Children, much like the child in this video, are often dragged out of their homes kicking and screaming, many times in the middle of the night for maximum psychological trauma, and are presented before a military court. Civilian children in a military court. This is a completely different system than the one used against Israeli Jewish children. The evidence presented to the judges by the Israeli authorities are mostly deemed to high of a security risk and thus are never presented to child defendants or their lawyers, and detentions (imprisonment) can be indefinitely renewed in 6 month increments at the whim of the Israeli authorities before and during trials which usually last about 15 minutes max.

    Not to mention the fact that 55% of the Palestinian population are children and that a majority of them have been arrested, detained and “interrogated” (tortured) at least once. Post traumatic stress disorder, social anxiety disorder or social avoidance behavior and a wide range of other psychological disorders are widespread among Palestinian children.

  14. Citizen
    Citizen
    April 24, 2014, 7:20 am

    Here’s a five year old Palestinian boy being arrested, allegedly for throwing stones:

    What would happen in the USA if a boy such as this threw some stones at a cop car?

    Remember anything at all of how you were when you were age five or six? Take a look at you and your class mates when you were in, say, first grade.

    When I was in the US Army I wasn’t allowed to vote because I wasn’t old enough. At the time you had to be age 21, and the military draft was operating.

    I remember a scene in one of those old Hollywood movies about poor “dead end” kids; Two boys and a girl, about age eight, made a game of jumping out of the bushes and hurling pebbles at the hub caps of cars passing by on the road. When a thrown pebble made a ping sound upon hitting a metal hub cap, they would laugh with glee. Near the end of the scene, one car brakes–the kids skedaddle back though the bushes.

  15. RobertB
    RobertB
    April 24, 2014, 11:05 am

    After watching the video…reading the article…and some of the comments on this thread…the horrors of Israel’s IDF killers…just doesn’t go away…the motives are there…consistent…and the pattern just keeps happening…again & again…

    I will always remember what happened to Abir, a nine year old Palestinian girl, on her way home from school…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    IDF Soldiers Never Go to Jail for Killing Palestinian. Never.

    The Murder of Abir Aramin, Nine Years Old

    By NURIT PELED-ELHANAN

    August 8, 2007

    On a Tuesday afternoon, the 16th of January, an Israeli soldier shot his nine year old daughter, Abir, in the head as she was leaving school to go home. The soldier will not spend an hour in jail. In Israel, soldiers are not imprisoned for killing Arabs. Never. It does not matter whether the Arabs are young or old, real or potential terrorists, peaceful demonstrators or stone throwers. The army has not conducted an inquiry in Abir Aramin’s death. The police and the courts have questioned no one except for Abir’s sister, who was holding her hand while she was falling. The young sister was asked time and again how many meters were they from the school gate, from the kiosk, from the jeep.

    There was hardly any investigation except for a private one by Bassam and his friends who know exactly who the killer is. But as far as the Israeli Defense Forces are concerned, the shooting did not happen. The army’s official account of her death is that she might have been hit by a stone that one of her classmates was throwing “at our forces.” That in the face of the finding of a senior pathologist, who worked for many years in an institute of forensic medicine.

    “And the murderers? What about them? Do they know that they committed crimes? Do they toss and turn in their beds at night? Are they tormented by images of the small bodies that convulse and fall under their rifles, bombs and shells? Probably not. We know of no case in which any soldier turned himself in and expressed remorse for his actions. That is the biggest success of Israeli education: the distinction between blood and blood, between dead child and dead child, and the inculcation of the firm belief that the murder of Palestinians and their friends is not a crime.

    Click on link below…for the rest of the story:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/08/08/the-murder-of-abir-aramin-nine-years-old/

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