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Today’s the Israel Parade in New York. Ruth Westheimer, who turns 86 in a few days, gave this summons:

All of you whoever listens to me, I promise you good sex especially with your significant other, with your spouse, if you come and watch the parade. I have been in this parade for many many years. And as many of you know, I lived in Israel, I speak Hebrew, I was in the Haganah, I was sharpshooter. Watch out! Whoever is not going to give us support, watch out for me, I can still put five bullets into that little red circle.

I go to Israel every single year… I want to be able to tell the television in Israel that We in New York came out to support the Israel Day Parade…

H/t Elissa Goldstein at Jewcy got there first.

 

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  1. just on June 1, 2014, 12:19 pm

    aaargh!

    What’s most scary is that she is quite obviously, not demented from age.

    She has some very serious defects, though.

  2. Taxi on June 1, 2014, 12:38 pm

    Soon as that charlatan doctor Ruth even mentions the word ‘sex’, I immediately lose my mojo. I especially hate it when she smiles while saying the word ‘penis’.

    “I was in the Haganah”.
    What a freaking racist terrorist – deluded into thinking she’s some kinda macho hero.

    And what a freaking bore! Why are you writing about her, Phil? The old inconsequential bag can say what she likes, but why the hell do we have even know about it?!

    • Pixel on June 1, 2014, 3:48 pm

       “I especially hate it when she smiles while saying the word ‘penis'”

      Haaa!

    • Basilio on June 2, 2014, 12:20 am

      She was in the Haganah and some people were in the KKK and burned crosses. What’s so good about having been in the Haganah?

  3. Kay24 on June 1, 2014, 12:44 pm

    She is representative of those who are obsessively devoted to the mother ship, that includes those who were not in the Haganah, nor knows how to shoot.
    It is Israel right or wrong, mostly wrong. Obviously to support a nation that is responsible for the suffering of oppressed people, shows how blindly loyal she is.

    “The Palestinian population has been exposed to a series of traumatic events, including imprisonment, torture and human rights abuse, house demolitions, land confiscation, movement restrictions and the indignities of unemployment and under-employment. Wages are low and travel hours long, reducing family time. Land confiscation in particular is a source of much frustration and tension, while house demolitions, used as a collective punishment by the Israeli army, can have an immense psychological impact. The home is not just a shelter, but the heart of family life. Losing one’s home is more than a physical disaster, because it evokes the traumatic experiences associated with being a refugee. Shelling of Palestinian areas and the demolition of Palestinian homes also bring back memories of Palestinian losses in the 1948 war, a particularly acute and deep-seated source of fear and insecurity. Adults who are exposed to house demolitions show a higher level of anxiety, depression and paranoia than other groups.”- Humanitarian Practice Network.

    Perhaps if the good doctor makes a trip to help these poor people, and take her blinders off, she might get a dose of reality.

  4. rpickar on June 1, 2014, 1:10 pm

    I met her about 20 years ago in a diner on the Upper West Side. The world has changed and my politics and associations have changed totally in those past 20 years, but Dr. Ruth’s have not. The best thing to do is understand that she is too old to change and phase her out of our association.

    • rpickar on June 1, 2014, 4:02 pm

      An addition point. She thinks that what she is saying is cute. Her self-image is one of a feisty old dame, kind of cute. She is speaking as she would from the 1960s thru 1990s. She also still reads mainstream media . She doesnt realize what the internet and Zionist behavior has done to utterly ruin that cute image.

      • Stephen Shenfield on June 2, 2014, 7:50 am

        Yes, from her tone of voice you can tell that she thinks she is joking. That is probably what she would say if confronted.

    • Accentitude on June 2, 2014, 8:09 am

      Isn’t it sad that the world demonized Helen Thomas, a women who had real ethics and morals, just because she told the Jews that they should “go home” instead of stealing and colonizing Palestinian land? Meanwhile, this decrepit thing in the video above thinks its lovely that she was a sharpshooter in a terrorist organization that is known for massacring Arab men, women and children in blatant war crimes and yet she’s applauded as this old “progressive” sex expert who is in tune with the youth? Frankly, I think she could stick to doing the intros of Tales From The Crypt.

      • hophmi on June 2, 2014, 12:01 pm

        Actually, Helen Thomas said that they should go back to “Poland” where 91% of their co-religionists were murdered during the war.

        One day, maybe you’ll understand why most of the civilized world finds statements like that deeply offensive.

      • just on June 2, 2014, 12:33 pm

        Uh, no.

        Here’s the transcript:

        “Nesenoff: “Any comments on Israel We’re asking everybody today?

        “Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine… Remember, these people are occupied. And it’s their land. It’s not German, it’s not Poland’s.”

        Nesenoff: “So where should they go? What should they do?”

        “They should go home. Poland Germany, and America, and everywhere else. Why push people out who live there for centuries, see?.

        Nesenoff: Are you familiar with the history of that region?

        “Very much. I’m of Arab background.””

        http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/helen-thomass-anti-zionist-statements.html

        (there’s lots more there. RIP to a great human)

      • hophmi on June 2, 2014, 12:35 pm

        Uh, yes.

        “They should go home. Poland Germany, and America, and everywhere else. Why push people out who live there for centuries, see?.”

        I see Poland and Germany in there. I guess it’s just really hard for you to understand how this sounds to Jewish ears.

      • just on June 2, 2014, 1:13 pm

        Hmmm, looks like some Israelis are taking her advice:

        “More on that story that won’t go away: Israelis moving to Berlin, now 20,000 strong. A lightning rod for rightwingers like Yair Lapid, the self-exile from the Jewish state raises all sorts of questions about the reforestation of Jews in Europe and the Jewish ideal of living as an empowered minority in a diverse liberal society. And yes, too, the right of return to a society that ethnically cleansed your people, Ashkenazi Jews.”

        http://mondoweiss.net/2013/11/israelis-berlin-number.html

        How many are there now?

      • MHughes976 on June 2, 2014, 1:14 pm

        It is of course true that people dispossessed have a right to restitution of what they had before and up to a point to receive compensation at the expense of those who carried out the dispossession, but not to receive things that were never theirs from people who have not carried out any act of dispossession. Would anyone disagree? Moreover, many Jewish people do live in Germany. No doubt there are still a few unrepentant Nazis there too. I’m very glad that they cannot say ‘Jewish people will never again think that they belong here; Hitler achieved that for us’.

      • Citizen on June 2, 2014, 1:44 pm

        @ hophmi

        RE: “One day, maybe you’ll understand why most of the civilized world finds statements like that deeply offensive.”

        Most of the civilized world realizes that two wrongs don’t make a right. And informed Americans realize Helen Thomas was a model for top notch journalism during her entire and long career, and they realize she was booted out in a heartbeat because, when suddenly asked for her two cents by a strange rabbi while she was resting on a public bench, she wasn’t given time to explain her original spontaneous remarks.

      • Citizen on June 2, 2014, 1:58 pm

        @ hophmi
        Most of the civilized world understands that two wrongs don’t make a right. Helen Thomas was silenced, same as Dorothy Thompson–two highly influential female American journalists. For the same reason.

      • Citizen on June 2, 2014, 2:12 pm

        Helen Thomas is an American heroine and trail-blazer, same as Dorothy Thompson who was a remarkable woman. She was a journalist in the mid-20th century. In the 1930s when she opposed Nazism, she was a hero, had an international reputation, and was published and spoke widely. But in the 1940s she spoke up for Palestinians and she was quickly shunned by the United States opinion-makers. In brief, “She spoke out against Hitler. For that, they made her a hero. She spoke up for Palestine. For that, they silenced her.”

      • pjdude on June 2, 2014, 2:55 pm

        but its not offensive when people like you demand palestinians go to other arab states they never lived. at least in helen thomas’s case jews actually did come from those places. also the polish weren’t involved with the holocaust.

      • RoHa on June 2, 2014, 7:43 pm

        “I guess it’s just really hard for you to understand how this sounds to Jewish ears.”

        So you’ve cut it down from “most of the civilized world” to just “Jewish ears”. Or do you think the two are the same?

        Either way, if they are offended, tough.

        Lots of us find lots of things offensive. A lot of the things rabbis say about Gentiles are deeply offensive, but even I don’t complain about them much. We’ve got better things to do than spend all our time rehearsing how offended we are.

      • eljay on June 2, 2014, 3:08 pm

        >> Actually, Helen Thomas said that they should go back to “Poland” where 91% of their co-religionists were murdered during the war.

        It’s funny how so many Zio-supremacists are actually closet Palestinians or their supporters who think that Israel = Jews.

  5. German Lefty on June 1, 2014, 1:15 pm

    I had heard of this woman before. However, I didn’t know that she is German.
    Westheimer in the German talk show “Kerner” introducing her book “Silver Sex”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ful2danCTbc
    Westheimer in the German talk show “Markus Lanz”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFHYlrV6pkM
    A commenter writes: “Can that granny shut up once? She only talks nonsense and wants to be the centre of attention.

    Whoever is not going to give us support, watch out for me, I can still put five bullets into that little red circle.
    It’s not particularly surprising that Zionists threaten people with violence. The “Jewish state” was created and is maintained by the use of force.

    • German Lefty on June 1, 2014, 1:31 pm

      Addition: I just watched a bit of the “Markus Lanz” show. Strangely, Westheimer claimed: “I don’t do politics. […] I never talk about politics.” Apparently, she makes an exception for Israel.

      • Pixel on June 1, 2014, 3:51 pm

        It’s truly not her politics, it’s the essence of her being.

    • hophmi on June 1, 2014, 10:20 pm

      Your countrymen murdered her parents in the Holocaust. Maybe that’s why she felt the need to fight for a Jewish state.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 2, 2014, 12:08 pm

        But not enough of a ‘need’, it would appear, to actually go and live in said ”Jewish state”.

        And why would she? After all, she’s done pretty well for herself in Galut, has she not?

      • hophmi on June 2, 2014, 12:33 pm

        Who are you to question her life choices? You seem not to be able to grasp that one need not live in the Jewish State to support it. Once again, you show that you and the extreme right-wing Zionists, who make the same sorts of arguments, deserve one another.

        Are you living in Palestine? I guess you can’t support it if you’re not.

      • pjdude on June 2, 2014, 2:57 pm

        you don’t understand how not having to flee to it shows it wasn’t a need. one can support it but to whine yes whine that its needed for safety and have more jews live outside of than in just makes the truth clear it was a want.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 2, 2014, 5:39 pm

        ”Who are you to question her life choices?”

        This woman’s ‘life choices’ involved volunteering for a terrorist militia which murdered innocent men, women and children. So yes, I’ll question them, just as you would if this militia fought on behalf of any group other than Jews.

        ”You seem not to be able to grasp that one need not live in the Jewish State to support it. ”

        No. I just question why all these Jews who’ve done very well indeed in Galut – Dr. Ruth, Dershowitz, Natalie Hersclag to name but a few – claim to ‘passionately support’ the ‘need’ for a ‘Jewish state’, yet they themselves don’t feel the ‘need’ to live there. After all, these people have done extremely well for themselves living in a liberal democracy where the rights of all peoples are, at least in theory, respected. So why indeed would they feel the ‘need’ to live in a nasty little provincial ghetto?

        ”Once again, you show that you and the extreme right-wing Zionists, who make the same sorts of arguments, deserve one another. ”

        Yawn. You don’t really think you can convince anyone here that you’re so very different from ”extreme right-wing Zionists” yourself, do you?

        ”Are you living in Palestine? I guess you can’t support it if you’re not.”

        What an idiotic argument. If I was loudly trumpeting having served in a Palestinian militia on the basis that I as a Palestinian ‘needed’ a Palestinian state, while much preferring to live in America, then you could draw a comparison. But I’m not, so you can’t.

      • eljay on June 2, 2014, 3:13 pm

        >> Your countrymen murdered her parents in the Holocaust. Maybe that’s why she felt the need to fight for a Jewish state.

        What she should have felt the need to fight for was justice. The creation of an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State” in Palestine was – and remains – just another injustice.

      • German Lefty on June 2, 2014, 4:58 pm

        Oh, these Zionists! They just love exploiting the Holocaust! And their motto is: “It’s not a crime when we do it!” Tell me: How can someone who was a victim of a supremacist state herself find it okay to help found another supremacist state? How can someone who was a refugee herself find it okay to make other people refugees? How can someone whose parents were murdered find it okay to murder – or consider murdering – other people?

  6. German Lefty on June 1, 2014, 1:35 pm

    OT: Today, DER SPIEGEL published a German-language article titled “Arab Christians in Israel’s army: Between pride and shame”.
    http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/arabische-christen-sollen-verstaerkt-in-der-israelischen-armee-dienen-a-971340.html

  7. amigo on June 1, 2014, 1:53 pm

    She may live long enough to see her terrorist days with hagannah were all wasted.

    She may live long enough to visit the state that will replace her beloved Israel, aka, the Apartheid rogue Regime and it,s leaders in Tel Aviv.

  8. a blah chick on June 1, 2014, 3:10 pm

    “…watch out for me, I can still put five bullets into that little red circle.”

    Translation: Support Israel or die!

    Do these people ever listen to themselves?

  9. Pixel on June 1, 2014, 3:44 pm

    It’s so clear watching this that it’s a generational thing.

    I think of Peter Beinart’s little son, over whose crib he so proudly describes having hung the Israeli flag.

    I can only imagine the day when his teenage son confronts him with derision about that, and how deeply it will break Peter’s heart.

    Thus goes the cycle of generations.

    It’s the way of things.

    • Pixel on June 1, 2014, 4:01 pm

      (Sadly, I’ll admit that, it’s with a huge sigh of relief, that I silently celebrate the natural deaths of so many older people.)

      • MHughes976 on June 1, 2014, 4:21 pm

        I’m sure that the children you mention will grow up to be lovely but we have to recall that some sons turn out to be worse and more fanatical than their fathers!

      • W.Jones on June 1, 2014, 8:22 pm

        Good point, M. According to surveys, Israelis are much less tolerant of Christianity today.

      • miriam6 on June 1, 2014, 7:35 pm

        (Sadly, I’ll admit that, it’s with a huge sigh of relief, that I silently celebrate the natural deaths of so many older people.)

        Because you are a misanthropic person ..

  10. eljay on June 1, 2014, 3:57 pm

    So, basically:

    >> All of you whoever listens to me, I promise you good sex … if you come and watch the parade.

    She makes empty promises.

    >> … I was in the Haganah, I was sharpshooter.

    She was a Zio-supremacist terrorist.

    >> … Watch out! Whoever is not going to give us support, watch out for me, I can still put five bullets into that little red circle.

    And she remains a Zio-supremacist terrorist.

  11. Xpat on June 1, 2014, 4:07 pm

    “I promise you good sex”

    Finally, we get to meet the brains behind Birthright!

    • just on June 1, 2014, 4:23 pm

      rotflmao!

      (brains coupled with her newly unveiled threatening aggression seems to be her shtick as she enters her 86th year).

      As far as it being ‘generational’ Pixel, I really don’t think so. How do you explain away the terrorism practiced by the illegal settlers and their spawn? Or the youth in the IOF and their propensity for kidnapping/ terrorizing/ assassinating children?

    • Justpassingby on June 2, 2014, 3:57 am

      and that with a creepy lisp voice..

    • Kathleen on June 2, 2014, 2:24 pm

      Who was one of the sponsor’s of Birthright who came right out and said that they hoped that Jewish kids would meet on these trips and procreate?

  12. Kathleen on June 1, 2014, 11:15 pm

    Dr. Ruth admitting she was a terrorist…and proud of it. Pathetic

  13. Qualtrough on June 2, 2014, 1:07 am

    She fought for Israel’s creation, she loves it, why the hell doesn’t she live there??

    • Zach S on June 3, 2014, 9:18 am

      The same reason Ali Abunimah doesn’t live in the West BAnk.

  14. Accentitude on June 2, 2014, 8:02 am

    So, Dr. Ruth just openly admitted on television that she was a sniper in a terrorist organization. Lovely.

    • just on June 2, 2014, 9:25 am

      It’s not the first time. She did it on “shalom” teevee, hln news with dr. drew and in an interview in the New Yorker– there’s probably many more instances.

      “Part of what attracted her to the role, Rupp said, was a little-known fact: Dr. Ruth was a trained sniper. “Not an act of heroism,” Westheimer clarified. “In 1947 and ’48, everybody in then-Palestine belonged to some group. I chose the group that was the forerunner of the Israel Defense Forces. And I did not know that I had good aim. So when they did some selection, whatever, they put me in a group and they taught me how to put the Sten gun together. I shot the sky very nicely with my eyes closed.” Fortunately, she never had to put her skills to use. “I have no idea what the experience would be, if I had to show it. But I was a very good sniper. I could put the five bullets in the red circle. And I know how to throw hand grenades.””

      http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/11/dr-ruth-sniper.html

      “then- Palestine”, eh?

  15. Citizen on June 2, 2014, 8:19 am

    Ruth was orphaned at age 16 by the Nazis who killed her parents. After the war she went to Israel and joined a Jewish terrorist group. It was accidentally discovered she was a very good sharp shooter, although she never shot anybody, she says. http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/drruth.asp

    Obviously the trauma at the age has stayed with her, and for her, Israel was for her a very personal savior. Despite her education and intelligence, she has never awakened to any objective critique of Israel over the many years she has lived–maybe she should have stayed in Israel to watch it “grow up” since the days she was a teen-ager and young adult?

    She left a Swiss orphanage in 1945, apparently, and jointed the Zionist underground with some pals, and, apparently, shortly after Israel was established as a state, she left Israel, never to return there to live: http://www.biography.com/people/dr-ruth-westheimer-9542073#early-life&awesm=~oG1Vdlz1A7o0UU

    Why not?

    In the video clip here she brags about returning to visit every year.

    But she won’t live there. Yet another Zionist who won’t live in Israel. Yet another one who refuses to recognize two wrongs don’t make a right.

  16. StCuthbert on June 2, 2014, 8:42 am

    When will this war criminal be brought to justice?

  17. just on June 2, 2014, 9:23 am
  18. W.Jones on June 2, 2014, 12:18 pm

    Where are you when we need you, Seafoid?

    And this comment section will soon close. Come quickly!

    • Mooser on June 3, 2014, 10:55 am

      “And this comment section will soon close. Come quickly!”

      Gee, a person who didn’t appreciate how important it is the Zionists have at least one place where they can freely express themselves might almost say it was “occupied”.

  19. hellsbells on June 2, 2014, 10:00 pm

    She is lovely. A perfect representation of the Jewish community and the supporters of Zionism. I wonder if she will be having tea in Hebron?

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