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More of the Oldman farce. Yesterday the Anti-Defamation League said that actor Gary Oldman’s initial apology for saying in a Playboy interview that Jews run Hollywood was “insufficient” and that Oldman must apologize to his fan base. JPost:

“While his apology may be heartfelt, Mr. Oldman does not understand why his words about Jewish control were so damaging and offensive, and it is therefore insufficient,” said ADL National Director Abe Foxman….

“Oldman needs to make clear not only to the Jewish community but also his fans that his words were are predicated on offensive notions and, as such, are clearly unacceptable.”

Duly Oldman went on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night and apologized to his fan base. He is halting and seems almost tearful in the bit above:

I said some things that were poorly considered, and once I had seen it in print, I could see that it was offensive, insensitive, pernicious, and ill-informed. And, well, you know, words have meaning. They carry weight and they carry on long after you’ve said them and I don’t condone or excuse the words I used, well, in any context. I just basically shouldn’t have used them in any context. But I did, and I have deeply injured and wounded a great many people. So– I just want to– I appreciate you having me here and extending your hospitality to put me in this seat once again and it gives me the opportunity to say to those people, that I, from my heart, I am profoundly, profoundly sorry and deeply apologetic. You know, especially to the fans, because they have been so incredible to me and very loyal. My nickname is that they’re like Team Oldman, and I really feel that I let them down. Especially to the younger fans, you know, I should be–I’m a public figure. I should be an example and an inspiration, and I’m an A-hole. I’m 56, and I should know better.

The Washington Post’s Soraya Nadia McDonald continues to be cynical about the Oldman apology. She pointed out at the start of this dustup that he had offended other groups as well, women and gays; no craven apology to them. Also, McDonald mentions that Oldman’s been nominated once for an Academy Award, thereby hinting that advancement in Hollywood is at stake in this matter. Thus the apology serves to reinforce the truth in Oldman’s original assertion.

Foxman said that yes there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood.

[Oldman’s] reference [in his first apology] to the Neal Gabler book he was reading only reinforces the notion that Jewish directors, producers and financiers are there in Hollywood as Jews. They’re not, and the book does not draw that conclusion. They are there acting as individuals. They do not pursue a Jewish agenda or strategy. They are there acting as professionals and Americans with skills working alongside many other non-Jews who are also in show business for the same reasons. 

Actually the book says that the first generation of Hollywood Jews were a “remarkably homogeneous” group who created the industry because they were excluded from other areas of American business life– they were there as Jews. And they built an “empire of their own,” to quote the title. Gabler does not touch on the issue of Jewish power in Hollywood in later generations.

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  1. chris o
    chris o on June 26, 2014, 10:35 am

    Is this a performance piece like Joaquin Phoenix on Jay Leno? And Foxman with the predictable cameo role? It is too much to believe. Oldman’s original point was about being PC and how you can’t say anything without being condemned and here he is lying prostrate, praising the PC police and bowing to them fully.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 26, 2014, 12:39 pm

      I think his original ‘apology’ was indeed a piss-take. But clearly he’s been got at – perhaps his LA agent had a quiet word in his ear. Remember that yesterday the odious Foxman was threatening to ‘talk to Oldman’s manager’. So I think this is ‘for real’. For real in the sense that Oldman is no longer mocking the ADL, but is indeed offering a ‘genuine’ apology.

      Of course, the reality is that this will likely make Oldman – and others – even more convinced that Jews really are all-powerful in Hollywood, and make him deeply resentful of professional Jews like the ADL. So I really don’t see the point in forcing celebs to make these hollow ‘apologies’. Unless, of course, the purpose isn’t really to stamp out ‘defamation’ at all, but rather to show your power and publicly humilate anyone who dares to step out of line. Which, of course, pretty much proves Oldman’s point.

      • Taxi
        Taxi on June 26, 2014, 1:30 pm

        They threatened to tank his new movie – which means he messes it up for all the crew and cast as well. I don’t think he could live with that.

        Standard fare in zionist Hollywood.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 26, 2014, 5:06 pm

        It is. The only one who bucked the trend and lived to tell the tale is the great Vanessa Redgrave.

  2. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 26, 2014, 10:52 am

    Congrats ADL. You can now clock up another scalp – yet another high-profile person humbled into a humiliating climb down. How is it that other groups don’t go around getting ‘offended’ by the witterings of B-list actors?

  3. Ron Edwards
    Ron Edwards on June 26, 2014, 11:27 am

    Wait – to be “a Jew,” one must be demonstrably pursuing a Jewish strategy or agenda? The term “individual” is juxtaposed to “Jewish?” This is the ADL’s official position?

    • annie
      annie on June 26, 2014, 11:57 am

      This is the ADL’s official position?

      i guess so. he says only reinforces the notion that Jewish directors, producers and financiers are there in Hollywood as Jews. They’re not

      it’s a lot to expect people to grok this logic. especially since jews do not think uniformly. who is foxman to say some individual jew is “not there as a jew”. he should ask the person, maybe there are people who are ‘there as jews’ when they work and play. it’s not like a scarf you can take on and off for some people, i would imagine.

  4. Taxi
    Taxi on June 26, 2014, 11:53 am

    Most commentators on this story on other websites see no wrong in what Oldman said and they’re trashing the ADL.

    This is an ‘over-reach’ by the ADL and it has been duly noted by the irked public – probably across the pond too.

    The refusal of the apology by Foxman especially has given negative PR for American jews. But I guess Mr. Foxman wants this – good for his business.

  5. Taxi
    Taxi on June 26, 2014, 12:37 pm

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” – Voltaire.

    • just
      just on June 26, 2014, 1:04 pm

      True, Taxi.

      I wonder how Mr. Oldman feels about Palestine. Muslims? Christians? I guess we’ll never know. He’s been silenced and rebuked.

      Pathetic that Foxman and his Arab Defamation League still have such clout.

  6. goldmarx
    goldmarx on June 26, 2014, 12:46 pm

    “Actually the book says that the first generation of Hollywood Jews were a “remarkably homogeneous” group who created the industry because they were excluded from other areas of American business life– they were there as Jews.”

    Well, Phil the Jews of Europe for many centuries were in ghettos – as Jews. They were not there by choice, and neither were the Jews of Hollywood. They were given little choice due to discrimination. This is not an expression of power, but of powerlessness. Gabler’s book made that clear, although your penchant for exaggerating Jewish power blinded you to that.

    • zhaomafan
      zhaomafan on June 27, 2014, 11:37 am

      right

    • annie
      annie on June 27, 2014, 2:33 pm

      They were not there by choice, and neither were the Jews of Hollywood. They were given little choice due to discrimination.

      goldmarx, your comment suggests “Jews of Hollywood” is an expression of powerlessness. could you elaborate on that please. or clarify what you mean?

    • Hostage
      Hostage on June 27, 2014, 3:17 pm

      Well, Phil the Jews of Europe for many centuries were in ghettos – as Jews. They were not there by choice, and neither were the Jews of Hollywood.

      Yes, many of them wouldn’t touch a gentile with a barge pole, let alone be “assimilated” into secular or religious gentile culture or society. Hannah Arendt observed that there was nothing in the German laws that prohibited sexual relations or marriage between Jews and Germans that should have offended anyone, since the same prohibitions were already contained in the Jewish halakhah.

      If any of that troubles you, then why aren’t you complaining about the Jewish ghetto, surrounded by walls and fences, that the Zionists have built for themselves in the Middle East? I’m curious if we should feel sorry for them, because they are not there by choice?

      • goldmarx
        goldmarx on June 27, 2014, 8:04 pm

        Hostage, you need to be drug-tested. Of course I’ve complained about Israel – why else would I support the BDS movement?

        For as long as European ghettos for Jews existed, Jews had no choice but to live there. They weren’t allowed to “touch a gentile”.

  7. Citizen
    Citizen on June 26, 2014, 12:53 pm

    Where is the cut-off point to be politically correct on this issue, hence not harming, but helping one’s career? If one is a Jew and likes to play Jewish Demography, pointing out to all who is a Jew (when the Jew’s activities are praised as a boon to the world), giving credit where credit is due? Can we count the percentage in any praiseworthy category, as, e.g., is done all the time regarding Jewish Noble Prize winners (regardless where they got their higher education and who paid for it)?

    And when somebody does such Jewish Geography regarding nasty stuff, that’s not allowed, e.g., influential Jewish neocons, criminal or nasty Wall Street bankers, the Madoffs? Demography of the big machers in the porn industry?

    I don’t quite get that Jewish contributions impacting the world in a positive way is wonderful, but Jewish contributions impacting the world in a negative day can’t be mentioned. We can’t stir up “anti-semitism,” but we’re allowed to stir up “pro-Jewish” feelings? That’s all there is to it? What other ethnic group is allowed such a treat, such a free pass, in the land of free speech?

  8. Woody Tanaka
    Woody Tanaka on June 26, 2014, 1:33 pm

    Foxman:
    “[Oldman’s] reference [in his first apology] to the Neal Gabler book he was reading only reinforces the notion that Jewish directors, producers and financiers are there in Hollywood as Jews. They’re not…”

    This is totally disingenuous. While, no, they are not there as exemplars of Judaism or as the agents of a monolith, they are, in fact, Jewish. That’s not something that can be totally separated out of the equation of their day-to-day life, because it is part (to some degree or another) of who they are, just as all of our backgrounds help make us into the people we are. And because it is a creative industry, the output of the industry reflects the people (and their backgrounds) of those who are in power in that industry.

    If the industry was not disproportionately Jewish, (and disproportionately gay, and young, and urban, and politically liberal, and “irreligious” [both in terms of people with no faith and those for whom faith is not a particularly large part of their lives]) then the library that makes up the history of American film simply would not be what it is.

    And actors are acutely aware that they are employees, and that if they say something that would offensive to Jewish people, that would be detrimental to their desire to continue to be a part of the film industry because of the fact that there are so many “Jewish directors, producers and financiers,” who are able to determine or influence who is hired and who is not and what projects are made. (The same is true for the other disproportionates, as well, which is why, in a country that is overwhelmingly Christian, with about 1/4 of the people Evangelical and 1/5 Catholic, movies with overt and explicitly Christian themes and religious stories are rare, but films with themes which would appeal to gay people or Jews or urban liberals or young people are not.) That is what Oldman meant by “run Hollywood.”

    There is nothing nefarious in the reality that whatever sensibilities that people have gotten from their backgrounds will affect the way they do their jobs, it’s common sense and human nature. But to suggest, as Foxman does, that the fact that these people are Jewish is just incidental and has no affect on the industry, is simply silly.

  9. Woody Tanaka
    Woody Tanaka on June 26, 2014, 1:35 pm

    First Jonah Hill, now Gary Oldman. It seems like Jimmy Kimmel’s show is the place for the “couch-pology.”

    • Daniel Rich
      Daniel Rich on June 26, 2014, 8:27 pm

      @ Woody Tanaka,

      Fully agree with the intent of your previous statement, but would like to correct you on this one.

      Kimmel now has an ‘ouch-pology’ seating [aka ‘I’ve been severely burned, because I couldn’t keep my skull cave shut.’ Oh, Jesus! Sorry, we don’t use the ‘J’ word in this place], after he refurbished his IKEA sponsored ‘coach-potatoes’ dugout, set in the sprawling Hollywood Hills that…

      Wait a minute… Where the hell’s this rant heading?

      Sorry. It must be the stress of seeing this world turn into such a wonderful and peaceful planet…

  10. Stephen Shenfield
    Stephen Shenfield on June 26, 2014, 1:44 pm

    How can this so-called “apology” possibly be accepted as authentic when he wasn’t even kneeling at the time and didn’t hit his head on the floor even once?

    • Taxi
      Taxi on June 26, 2014, 1:56 pm

      Because he’s a good atheist thespian, Gary initially only simulated felating the donkey and voyeuring Abe rejected the act cuz he only gets off on the real thing.

      Now Gary has gone and done the real thing and the satisfied Abe is smoking a cigarette.

    • just
      just on June 26, 2014, 2:07 pm

      lol.

      Perhaps he was sporting an ADL approved cilice.

  11. OlegR
    OlegR on June 26, 2014, 2:02 pm

    Just read the Playboy piece.
    I think he maybe went a little over the line there but the reaction, wow such an overkill.
    An he is overacting in his apology just a wee bit unless he was aiming for that effect which judging by how came off in the Playboy article i can totally believe
    it was like almost two different persons giving interviews.

    A complete waste of time by the ADL imho.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 26, 2014, 5:09 pm

      It’s only a ‘waste of time’ if you think the ADL’s aim is crusading against bigotry.

      It isn’t, of course. The ADL is all about consolidating the power of the American Jewish elite. And forcing a high-profile actor to metaphorically get down on his knees to official Jewish America illustrates that power very well. So, not a ‘waste of time’ at all.

    • Shingo
      Shingo on June 26, 2014, 8:09 pm

      An he is overacting in his apology just a wee bit unless he was aiming for that effect which judging by how came off in the Playboy article i can totally believe it was like almost two different persons giving interviews.

      Yes, that’s a possibility. Oldman is twisted enough to pull that off – make this into a bigger deal than Foxman wanted it to be.

  12. Taxi
    Taxi on June 26, 2014, 2:04 pm

    Okay, the jackboot of the jewish mafia was polished on Oldman’s behind. And let THAT be a lesson to EVERYONE in Hollywood! And to shmucks like us too.

    (This is really the message the ADL wants everyone to ‘get’).

  13. Taxi
    Taxi on June 26, 2014, 2:07 pm

    The ostentatious public display of jewish power to humiliate beloved icons will all end in jewish tears.

  14. chet
    chet on June 26, 2014, 2:24 pm

    The scene — the office of a stereotypical Jewish studio owner (as portrayed by generations of different actors over the years).

    Studio head: “Oldman, you’ll never work in Hollywood again!!”

    ______

    Only this time it’s not a movie and Oldman’s career is down the toilet.

  15. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870 on June 26, 2014, 3:18 pm

    RE: “Oldman labels himself an ‘A-hole’ for saying Jews run Hollywood”

    MY COMMENT: If the shoe fits . . .

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    RE: “The Washington Post’s Soraya Nadia McDonald continues to be cynical about the Oldman apology. She pointed out at the start of this dustup that he had offended other groups as well, women and gays; no craven apology to them.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: I thought ADL pretended (at least) to fight all kinds of bigotry, not just antisemitism/anti-Semitism/anti-semitism.
    Consequently, can we at least see a wee bit of pretense of also being concerned about Oldman’s misogynistic and homophobic comments, ADL? If only for the sake of appearances? Or would that too much rile your major donors?

    • DICKERSON3870
      DICKERSON3870 on June 26, 2014, 5:10 pm

      P.S. RE: “If the shoe fits . . .” ~ me, above

      CLARIFICATION: I was referring to the “Oldman labels himself an ‘A-hole’” part, which I should have put in bold above.
      If Oldman wanted to seriously comment on the influence of “Jews” in/on “Hollywood”, he should have, at a minimum, avoided doing so in simplistic terms reminiscent of centuries of antisemitic fantasies/allegations of Jews running (virtually) everything.

  16. Pat Kittle
    Pat Kittle on June 26, 2014, 4:13 pm

    Wouldn’t you love to go face-to-face with this Jewish supremacist Foxman coward on national TV?

    I would.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr on June 26, 2014, 5:20 pm

      like him or hate him…he would eat you alive. plus, he’s out of there next year. he’s paid his ‘dues’ by bringing in the ‘beef-fry’.

      • annie
        annie on June 26, 2014, 10:04 pm

        i think he’s out of there on the 20th of this month.

        he sure didn’t eat david sheen alive, he got eaten.

      • Pat Kittle
        Pat Kittle on June 26, 2014, 10:18 pm

        Foxman just goes after those he knows he can intimidate.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on June 26, 2014, 10:41 pm

        Foxman just goes after those he knows he can intimidate.

        And he only does it from a safe distance through the compliant media, where the usual suspects can do the fighting for him.

        He’s a gutless hack

    • Pat Kittle
      Pat Kittle on June 26, 2014, 10:24 pm

      Foxman wouldn’t dare challenge someone like me.

  17. crone
    crone on June 26, 2014, 5:02 pm

    why does one have to apologize for the truth? for stating a fact?

  18. Hostage
    Hostage on June 26, 2014, 6:54 pm

    Foxman said that yes there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood.

    [Oldman’s] reference [in his first apology] to the Neal Gabler book he was reading only reinforces the notion that Jewish directors, producers and financiers are there in Hollywood as Jews.

    This has gotten silly. Oldman said ” ‘Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews.” He did NOT say that it’s run by “the Jews”.

  19. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich on June 26, 2014, 7:08 pm

    Gary Oldman did the opposite of what all his fictional characters have done on screen and that is to piss on rules. Had he stood his ground and read out a list of who is who in Hollywood [who do run the major studios], nobody could have argued with him [one way or another], but he bowed to the Jewish Gestapo and he’s now in the same bin as Scarlet Johansson.

    I am truly sick and tired of spineless people.

  20. RoHa
    RoHa on June 26, 2014, 8:27 pm

    A-hole? He can’t even say “arsehole”?

  21. quercus
    quercus on June 27, 2014, 7:13 am

    I find it not at all believable that Oldman and the editors of Playboy magazine did not anticipate the furor that would ensue from Oldman’s words. He, himself, knowing as he does Mel Gibson’s experience, must have anticipated the reaction to the published interview. All of which makes me wonder if there is something more behind the entire episode — a well played poker game designed to make your opponent (Foxman) show his hand and ultimately lose.

    Who will be the real ‘loser’ in the end? I think Foxman and the ADL, exposing themselves for the arseholes and megalomaniacs that they are.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 27, 2014, 10:48 am

      ‘Playboy’ would have relished the controversy. After all, who buys ‘Playboy’ these days?

      As for Oldman, don’t major stars have publicists who are permitted to read their client’s interview prior to publication and if they choose, request changes/omissions to be made? Granted, Oldman isn’t quite in the Brad Pitt/Tom Hanks A-list team, so maybe that wasn’t an option.

      But I do wish that just ONE celebrity would stand up to these narcissists and say ”I said nothing that was factually incorrect. If you are ‘offended’ that is your choice and not my problem. If you think anything I said violates any laws of the land, feel free to pursue legal action. Otherwise, STFU.”

      Some day it will happen. Just not quite yet.

      • Jeff D
        Jeff D on June 27, 2014, 2:59 pm

        My fear is that, by the time “it” does happen, the country will be an even more emasculated, censored, meaningless shadow of itsel than it is now.

        Forty years of paying attention to this tell me that it can always get worse; and Foxman and other grandees know that it’s their job to be offended by reality i they can use that to gain power over someone. That we have let such a dybbuk gain the power and influence that he has merely shows how badly we have stumbled as a society.

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