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‘Let the police mow the lawn’: Israeli right-wing demands stronger crackdown as Netanyahu increases attacks on East Jerusalem

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As tensions rise in Jerusalem right-wing Israelis are demanding that police increase the already brutal level of state violence inflicted exclusively against Palestinians. Numerous Israelis I have spoken to demanded police implement shoot-to-kill tactics in East Jerusalem on any Palestinian who throws a rock — which would effectively expand the tactics used against Palestinians living on the other side of Israel’s separation wall in the occupied West Bank.

Thursday morning, I met Jeremy Rossman, a 22-year-old settler from New York at a demonstration demanding Jewish dominance of what is known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary and to Jews as the Temple Mount. “If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.” Rossman said before adding, “I don’t care if a person throwing a rock is 13, 20, 30 or 70 years old — he needs to be taken out.“

Two days earlier, at a protest in front of a Jerusalem police station organized by Im Tirtzu — the neo-Zionist and proto-fascist organization that has chapters in 13 Israeli universities — near the site of the recent apparent vehicular attack demonstrators made similar calls. “Let the police win,” Im Tirtzu protesters chanted — a riff on the popular slogan “Let the IDF win.”

“Let the police mow the lawn,” one woman said into a megaphone — a euphemism for extreme violence used to describe Israeli wars such as this summer’s assault on Gaza that killed more than 2,100 Palestinians.

“Shoot anyone who throws a rock,” said Lizi Hameiri who came from Tel Aviv to join the protest.

“The IDF knows how to handle it.” said Im Tirtzu spokesperson Asher Suzin.

Indeed, the shocking violence protesters demand are used only a few kilometers away in the occupied West Bank. In July, Israeli soldiers fired live ammunition on Palestinian protesters at the Qalandia checkpoint this summer, injuring more than 200 people and killing 3. 

Protesters hold a sign that reads: The "quiet" Intifada is killing Jerusalem. (Photo: Dan Cohen)

Protesters hold a sign that reads: The “quiet” Intifada is killing Jerusalem. (Photo: Dan Cohen)

Contrary to popular sentiment, police repression against Palestinians in East Jerusalem has been anything but soft. 

Since demonstrations began in response to the grisly murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir this summer, Israeli police and Border Police units in full riot gear have been stationed throughout East Jerusalem neighborhoods. Any form of protest to the presence of police is repressed with heavy force using a combination of flash grenades, tear gas, rubber and plastic-coated bullets and skunk trucks — an Israeli-invented liquid that smells of rotting flesh. Police violence is inescapable — children have been shot while standing near windows inside their homes, and skunk trucks wantonly spray the putrid liquid throughout neighborhoods. Cops stage nighttime raids to arrest Palestinians and since the demonstrations began at least 900 Palestinians have been detained, many of whom are minors. 

Yet this brutal repression isn’t enough for Israel’s right-wing. At Thursday’s demonstration, settler leader and Jewish National Front leader Baruch Marzel found himself himself in a sort-of agreement with the Obama administration. “Bibi is a coward,” referencing the recent chickentshit comments. Marzel’s statement reflects widespread belief among right-wing Israelis that Netanyahu is preventing the police from taking requisite action to completely subdue any form of Palestinian resistance. Though Netanyahu ordered 1,000 extra police and Border Police to Jerusalem, Marzel dismissed the move. “We don’t need a lot of police. A lot of them don’t do anything. The police know what they have to do, they only have to have the orders,” Marzel told me. 

Contrary to their delusions, Netanyahu is broadening police powers to attack Palestinians in occupied East Jerusalem. After a meeting with top security officials last week week, Netanyahu expedited passage of a law that would expand the legal definition of stone-throwing, casting an even wider dragnet through the streets of East Jerusalem to make the common form of resistance punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Police attorneys have proposed legislation that would make parents of minors liable for minors under the age of 14, with punishments ranging from fines to prison time. Last Monday, Mayor Nir Barkat ordered police and Border Police to crackdown on Palestinians in East Jerusalem using enforcement of municipal regulations. 

Yazeed Abu Khdeir, 26, has seen the crackdown in effect. “Thursday in East Jerusalem, I saw an officer in East Jerusalem who issues traffic citations tell a couple policemen ‘180 today — it was a good day.’” he told me. 

As police operate with total impunity, a climate of fear exists that has led some Palestinians to avoid publicizing information about other beatings due to fear of police reprisals like the punishment the Abu Khdeir family received in Shuafat. 

“Many people don’t want to give statements because they worry about this kind of collective punishment,” Yazeed Abu Khdeir explained. 

Despite the Israeli government’s brutal violence on Palestinians in East Jerusalem, nothing short of massacres will satisfy the right-wing’s cravings for violence. As the far-right pushes the Netanyahu government to take over the Temple Mount, the possibility exists that heightened resistance may create the pretext needed to carry their bloody fantasies out.

Dan Cohen

Dan Cohen is an independent journalist and filmmaker based in Palestine. He tweets at @dancohen3000.

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  1. Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 10:45 am

    Guy from New York is in Palestine talking about sovereignty.

    Got it.

    • justicewillprevail on November 3, 2014, 10:56 am

      Yep, oblivious to their own hypocrisy, they fan the flames of fascism in a foreign country where they are granted rights the native people are denied. All the while retaining citizenship in a country whose founding principles are the equal rights of all its citizens. Ugly. Stupid. Racists.

      • Citizen on November 3, 2014, 6:54 pm

        That young Jewish guy learned his racism at his parents knees, growing up in USA where the government has a whole special department devoted to monitoring the slightest discrimination against anybody of Jewish descent. Disgusting.

      • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 11:00 am

        “the slightest discrimination against anybody of Jewish descent.”

        The US government is keeping track of my Jewish descent? Well, of course, we can’t have not-real Jews using the resources of the “whole special department” fraudulently.

    • John Douglas on November 3, 2014, 11:18 am

      @ Dan Cohen “Thursday morning, I met Jeremy Rossman, a 22-year-old settler from New York … “If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.” Rossman said before adding, “I don’t care if a person throwing a rock is 13, 20, 30 or 70 years old — he needs to be taken out.“ ”

      What is it with these Americans so-called settlers? Finally they get to be tough guys? “Kill those 13 year-olds” (With the American-financed war machine watching their back.) When Israel’s obituary is finally written, it will be Americans who are found guilty of State-cide.

    • Justine Toujours on November 4, 2014, 11:19 pm

      These sociopaths settlers cannot even comprehend that they are the terrorists. These criminals have never been brought to justice hence they believe that they can go on slaughtering more Palestinians, in order for these thieves to acquire more Palestinian land.

  2. just on November 3, 2014, 11:07 am

    thanks, Dan.

    this is most egregious. what is of such real concern is that it appears that the majority of Israelis are genocidal in general toward Palestinians.

  3. JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 11:21 am

    RE: I met Jeremy Rossman, a 22-year-old settler from New York at a demonstration demanding Jewish dominance of what is known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary and to Jews as the Temple Mount. “If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.” Rossman said before adding, “I don’t care if a person throwing a rock is 13, 20, 30 or 70 years old — he needs to be taken out.“ ~ Dan Cohen

    ISHMAEL (from Moby-Dick, 1851):

    “I have no objection to any person’s religion, be it what it may, so long as that person does not kill or insult any other person, because that other person don’t believe it also. But when a man’s religion becomes really frantic; when it is a positive torment to him; and, in fine, makes this earth of ours an uncomfortable inn to lodge in; then I think it high time to take that individual aside and argue the point with him.”

    SOURCE –

  4. Talkback on November 3, 2014, 11:33 am

    Just another variation of ‘violent Judaism’.

  5. JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 11:37 am

    RE: “Despite the Israeli government’s brutal violence on Palestinians in East Jerusalem, nothing short of massacres will satisfy the right-wing’s cravings for violence. As the far-right pushes the Netanyahu government to take over the Temple Mount, the possibility exists that heightened resistance may create the pretext needed to carry their bloody fantasies out.” ~ Dan Cohen

    TAKE IT AWAY, NORM: “Soft-Core Fascism”, by Norman Pollack,, Oct 31-Nov 02, 2014

    [EXCERPT] America is in trouble. Its people have never been more supine in the face of, complicit in, indifferent to, the criminality of its policies, both foreign and domestic, yet this does not sufficiently seem to reassure its ruling groups, albeit, not a unified ruling class, but reasonably cohesive as drawn from financial elites, upper industrial and business circles, selected political and military officials, and any of the superrich I may have slighted. There is surprising unanimity at the top, corresponding in degree to the acquiescent in the middle and bottom ranks of society. Of course, radicals don’t like to hear that, but looking at the dimensions of social control, hidden as well as overt, in America, and from that plateau, the commission of war crimes on a steady basis in foreign affairs, one perhaps reluctantly has to admit truth will out: the fascistization of US society is moving right along, if not indeed nearing completion. Yet not to worry, it’s hardly noticeable, what I refer to as its soft-core expression, generally and more effectively under liberal auspices.

    You don’t need the more familiar concentration camp and gas chamber to subjugate a people. Heavy-handed intrusion into their lives combined with their own self-policing of word and deed as the desired consequence, usually is enough. For the object is the security/maintenance and expansion of monopoly capitalism free from blemish (i.e., internal criticism and foreign obstacles). There are infinite gradations of terrorization, the thin line from soft-core to hard-core manifestations of fascism often being hard to determine, especially since they in fact form a continuum and feed on each other. History, culture, and political institutions are often complicating factors, although at bottom terror, real or disguised, is held to be essential as the instrument of choice in reducing people into submission to Authority. Order is the operative term in characterizing fascist structure, ideology, and mental-set.

    Recognize anything familiar, yet? If, as in America, society is doing its job, the answer should be, No—the point of submission is to wrap it in the flag of DEMOCRACY. Lead the people to diversions, whether football, the stock market, fashion and sexual gratification, but not critical thinking, not the exposure of hegemonic planning and practice, the absence of political choice, the never-ceasing processes of wealth concentration and industrial-financial-commercial consolidation. Keep the people off-balance; purge their ranks of dissent. Starting to seem more familiar, fascism as a somewhat painless process (the Nazis had the motto, “Strength through Joy”) provided you have a scapegoat to unify the people?

    Fascism requires an Enemy, even if one has to be manufactured, is fictional, does not exist, or, through government policy and activity, in this case, eavesdropping, broadly conceived to include all modes of breaking down the walls and protections of privacy, is simply implied. For why else would government go to so much trouble if there wasn’t an enemy somewhere out there? Confirmation of subversion because of the effort to track it—hence government can do no wrong. Fascism is not a function of technological advancement, the latter merely a facilitator through more advanced means of creating and disseminating propaganda—as well as the instruments of less gentle social control. With this brief sketch, let’s turn to two items coming to my attention in the last 24 hours, what I might term, archetypal straws in the wind illustrative of a fundamental structural-ideological pattern: one, collective in reach, the other, applying to an individual (which may apply to many more, but who are less resourceful in the discovery of the intrusion on privacy). . .


  6. JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 11:47 am

    RE: “The IDF knows how to handle it.” said Im Tirtzu spokesperson Asher Suzin.

    MY COMMENT: And the IDF is training police all around the globe to use their tactics “tested in combat”!

    Catalan Police in Israel: repression courses “Tested In Combat” [VIDEO, 05:40] –
    VIDEO February 16, 2014
    “Public security” training in Israel for police from Catalonia – or how to wage war on your own civilian population to protect the investments of bankster criminals!

    SOURCE –


    P.S. RE: “Tested In Combat” ~ from the above video on Catalan police training in Israel

    MY COMMENT – Here is a very powerful testimonial regarding the impact of Israel’s “tested in combat” marketing on policing here in the U.S.
    An Israeli Soldier’s Story – Eran Efrati [VIDEO, 40:05] –
    Published on Mar 8, 2014
    The talk by Eran Efrati was filmed in Denver, Colorado on March 3, 2014 as part of The Soldier and the Refusenik U.S. tour with Maya Wind. Eran talks about his experiences in the IDF and then more broadly discusses Israel, its relationship to the U.S. and the global expansion of militarism.

    • Bornajoo October 24, 2014, 3:37 pm
    That was indeed a very powerful must-watch testimonial. Thank you for the link. More honest and courageous people from within like Eran urgently required
    The digger you deep it just becomes even more hideous, even more grotesque and even more evil.

    • MRW October 27, 2014, 12:43 am
    Everyone should see that “An Israeli Soldier’s Story – Eran Efrati [VIDEO, 40:05].” If you can’t stand to watch the whole thing, the last 10 minutes will do it.

    SOURCE –

    • JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 11:49 am

      P.P.S. ALSO SEE: “Atlanta Police Department Commander Completes International Public Safety Training”, Elizabeth Espy, APD Public Affairs Deputy Manager, Atlanta Police Public Affairs News Release

      Atlanta Police Department Commander Completes International Public Safety Training

      News Release

      Zone 4 Major Rodney Bryant learns best practices on counterterrorism

      Atlanta Police Department Major Rodney Bryant completed a two-week public safety program and exchange focused on new public safety techniques and technologies. Organized by the Georgia International Law Enforcement Exchange (GILEE), Major Bryant along with 16 other senior Georgia public safety officials learned best practices on counterterrorism measures.

      “The Atlanta Police Department has supported the GILEE program since it was founded in 1992. “I am huge supporter of the GILEE Exchange Program since I visited Israel myself as a participant in this program, said Police Chief George N. Turner. “GILEE is an excellent tool to help educate and train our officers about to responding to multiple threats.”

      Major Rodney Bryant is the commander of Zone 4 and has more than 20 years of law enforcement experience. The Department regularly participates in global public safety exchanges. The Atlanta Police Leadership Institute is a leadership program that prepares all ranks for promotional opportunities. The APLI program includes training on international law enforcement issues where officers learn tactics on preventing acts of terror, responding to suspicious objects and organizing volunteers for emergency response. Additionally, this year the Atlanta Police Department has hosted several international police agencies including the Nicaraguan National Police and Israel National Police Department. . .


    • JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 7:37 pm

      ■ ALSO SEE: “Sheriff Ortiz goes to Israel”, by Eva Ruth Moravec,, 07/07/11

      [EXCERPTS] . . . For one week last month, Bexar County Sheriff Amadeo Ortiz swapped his cowboy hat for a yarmulke as he visited Israel on an organized trip with other law enforcement leaders.
      “I’ve always had an interest in Israel,” he said in an interview Tuesday. “It was a great conference.”
      Ortiz joined 16 other sheriffs, police chiefs and organization heads, including Houston Police Chief Charles McClelland, on a week-long trip, courtesy of the Jewish Institute for National Security’s Law Enforcement Exchange Program.
      The group toured a hospital’s trauma unit, Israeli Arab villages, sites of terrorist attacks, border crossings, police offices and the country’s security fence. Based on the itinerary, most of the sites and speeches focused on terrorism and security.
      Ortiz said he was impressed by Israel Defense Force soldiers, who he said are trained as soldiers and as police officers.
      “If we ever deploy troops along the Texas border, they should have training in being a soldier and in law enforcement,” he said…
      …The junket was Ortiz’s second organized trip to Israel: last year, Bexar County footed the bill to send him to an international conference on homeland security, he said…

      SOURCE –

      ■ AND SEE: “Israel trip an eye-opening experience for Jefferson chief”, By Adina Solomon,, 07/18/11

      This summer, Jefferson Police Chief Joe Wirthman went on a two-week trip 6,000 miles away, traveling across Israel with a delegation of state law enforcement officers as part of the Georgia International Law Enforcement Exchange.
      “It was an awesome trip,” he said. “A trip of a lifetime.”
      GILEE, which partners with Georgia State University, sends a different group of Georgia officers every summer to work with Israeli law enforcement and border control.
      Commerce Police Chief John Gaissert and University of Georgia Police Chief Jimmy Williamson also have gone in past years.

      The object of the program is to learn how Israeli police deal with terrorism every day…
      …After his trip, Wirthman is trying to think one step ahead with the Jefferson Police Department, preparing for the type of threatening situations Israel faces 24 hours a day, he said.
      “Hopefully it’ll never happen, but in this world, ‘never’ isn’t a word,” Wirthman said. “We’re not invincible here.”
      He’s also witnessed how people live their daily lives with the constant menace of terrorism, he said.
      Wirthman met one man who sends each of his children on a different bus to school. In case one of the buses is bombed, only one of his three children will be harmed.
      “I don’t know if I could raise my family under those conditions,” said Wirthman, who has three kids of his own.
      And nobody in Israel grumbles about it, he said. Instead, they have a strong national pride many Americans had only after 9/11, he said…”


      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 4:44 pm

        All that training and junketing. Someone’s got money to burn.

  7. Kay24 on November 3, 2014, 11:50 am

    Seems the right wingers are blood thirsty once again, and cannot contain themselves. I guess the greed for possession of more territory this time in the West Bank, and the eagerness to mow the lawn, once again, to rid the area of Palestinians, so that they can lay their filthy hands on their property, is too much to bear. They do not have a shred of decency, compassion, and are exactly what Chickenshit called the other side – Human Animals.

  8. ritzl on November 3, 2014, 11:53 am

    In yet another item from the lack-of-self-awareness department, if Israeli police shot dead ALL rock throwers (i.e. including Jewish ones), this madness within the pretense of democracy would end in a heartbeat, for one reason (madness>>epiphany) or another (pretense of democracy>>Jewish civil war).

    The only thing worse than a country led by a psychopathic murderer is a country led by a psychopathic murderer that has been elected by the majority of the people (and yes I include George Bush in that latter category).

    • just on November 3, 2014, 11:58 am

      agree completely.

      • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 1:29 pm

        Regarding your comment, another contributing factor that allows this entire train-wreck to continue is that this ugly side of Israel isn’t allowed to be shown to American viewers, yet Arab extremism is always front and center. No wonder the people are so easily mislead.

        I’ve said it before: If you can’t criticize Israel for murdering children in a hospital, then you can’t criticize Israel for anything.

      • Citizen on November 3, 2014, 6:58 pm

        If you want to know where the power lies, look to whom you cannot criticize in public. Now apply this principle to America.

  9. JLewisDickerson on November 3, 2014, 11:57 am

    RE: ‘Let the police mow the lawn’: Israeli right-wing demands stronger crackdown as Netanyahu increases attacks on East Jerusalem

    MY COMMENT: This is yet another reason that Jerusalem must be made an ‘international city’ pursuant to General Assembly resolution 181 (II) November 29, 1947, which provides for the full territorial internationalisation of Jerusalem: “The City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations.”
    Netanyahu recently made it clear (albeit speaking only in Hebrew) that as far as he is concerned there will never be a sovereign nation-state of Palestine in the West Bank (with, or without, E. Jerusalem as its capital). Consequently, unless Jerusalem is protected by virtue of its being made an ‘international city’ administered by the UN, it is just a matter of time before the Dome of the Rock, the Al-Aqsa mosque and numerous other historic sites come under existential threat as Israel’s radical, extremist nationalists (like Yehuda Glick and Moshe Feiglin of the Temple Institute) become more and more determined to completely “Judeaize” the city.

  10. amigo on November 3, 2014, 12:17 pm

    “Shoot anyone who throws a rock,” said Lizi Hameiri who came from Tel Aviv to join the protest. ”

    I think these people should all be shipped off to Auschwitz and force them to stay there for a week or two.It just might alter there twisted racist lost soulsl ,

    Or am I dreaming or fantasizing. Hell , it might even make them worse.

    One thing is sure, they do not deserve to live amongst civilised people.

  11. ivri on November 3, 2014, 12:56 pm

    The Israel-Arab conflict moves in fixed patterns – as an inherent unstable situation it is self-solving itself phase by phase. Apparently, it is now the turn of the “Battle on Jerusalem”. The bad news is clear – violence and bloodshed and problems for all people there, Jews and Arabs, in their everyday life but there are also good ones. When this phase is over then just as in the aftermath of the previous ones a more stable status-quo will emerge. Note, for instance, how the rest of the West-Bank is actually relatively calm now – as starkly different from past similar occasions.

    • annie on November 3, 2014, 1:09 pm

      ivri, haven’t you ever heard of ‘give me liberty or give me death’. stability isn’t all it’s cracked up to be when you’re chained to a wall metaphorically peaking or otherwise.

      and we know why this is happening now. because israel is using this ‘unrest’ which they undoubedly created, because they want some reason to justify their long term goals, which is to ethnically cleanse palestinians from their land. for example:

      Planning panel meeting to advance new Jewish neighborhood in East Jerusalem
      Plan for more than 600 housing units in Ramat Shlomo
      was advanced by PM Netanyahu last week, sparking new diplomatic crisis with United States. Site is important nature zone for birds, deer and hyraxes.
      …The construction plan is one of two in East Jerusalem declared by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week, reportedly as part of the response to Palestinian violence in the capital. The U.S. administration has already condemned construction in both areas.

      The construction plan is to extend over 76 dunams (19 acres) in the northern part of the ultra-Orthodox Ramat Shlomo neighborhood and will bring it very close to the Palestinian neighborhood of Beit Hanina. This plan was discussed a few years ago but rejected when it was realized that in order to build the neighborhood, land would have to be expropriated from Palestinian owners. That is because while the neighborhood itself is built on Jewish-owned land, the road to it passes through Palestinian-owned land. However, the area of the plan was earmarked for future construction in Jerusalem’s new master plan, despite vigorous objections from environmental groups.

      Although the areas in question are privately owned, the plan was submitted to the district planning committee by the Jerusalem municipality and Moriah, a municipality-owned infrastructure company. Planning officials said Sunday they believed the submission was made by these bodies so the expropriation of land could be moved forward.

      Most of the area planned for the new neighborhood has been marked in an urban nature survey by the Society for the Protection of Nature in Israel as Atarot Stream South. The SPNI survey describes the site as rich in terms of nature, with a herd of deer, hyraxes and other mammals, and as an important feeding and hunting zone for birds that winter in Jerusalem and nest there in spring. It is also home to a variety of reptiles and insects, the report states, and is one of the westernmost sites where hyraxes have been observed.

      ……..Psaki said U.S. policy was clear and “continues to oppose unilateral steps that would prejudge the outcome of negotiations on Jerusalem.”

      if you go to the link you can see the map. note how this is being framed as a response to palestinian violence!!!! so that’s a neat trick, create a huge clamp down guaranteed to start unrest, and then blame your continued colonization on the resulting violence.

      we’re all very hip to these tactics by now.

      • Kay24 on November 3, 2014, 1:23 pm

        Well said Annie. The tactics are getting very obvious now, and almost predictable. So is the reaction from the US. I sometimes think this is a good cop/bad cop routine between Israel and the US, so that the criminals can keep sucking up all the land, while getting rid of the Arabs by massacres, intimidation, collection punishment, and making life impossible for the occupied, and the US pretends to be outraged all while arming and aiding them.
        The tactic by the occupier is provoke, and when there is a response of protests and rockets, start another massacre, followed by more land grabs.
        It seems some here are conveniently acting naive!

    • just on November 3, 2014, 1:20 pm

      any “status quo” imposed by the Occupier Israel is insupportable by humanity.

      “West-Bank is actually relatively calm now”

      har, har, har.

    • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 1:39 pm

      When this phase is over then just as in the aftermath of the previous ones a more stable status-quo will emerge.

      Except when this staus-quo emerges, the Palestinians will be out another 1000 acres of their land. Funny how it always seems to work out that way.


    • Mooser on November 3, 2014, 5:14 pm

      Annie, this must be some of the ‘intellectual development’ “ivri” was talking about in the thread on Schlomo Sand (“Exalted Anti-Zionists”).

      Yes, sir, Israel “maturing” apace.

    • talknic on November 3, 2014, 5:41 pm

      “the rest of the West-Bank is actually relatively calm now “

      Ah …. relatively… to what? There have been the usual on going Palestinian deaths, injuries, arrests at the hands of the IDF, the Israeli Govt is illegally building more illegal settlements for more illegal settlers.

      Try here scroll down

      Got anything factual ivri?

      • Mooser on November 3, 2014, 9:40 pm

        “Got anything factual ivri?”

        I think he thought he was displaying some kind of dispassionate even-handedness, for which he should be congratulated.
        Sad, isn’t it?

      • Walid on November 3, 2014, 11:41 pm

        “Ah …. relatively… to what?”

        Ivri is probably thinking relative to Gaza and the shit that Israel dumps on it. President Abbas has to be thanked for that. His PA police are doing a good job in keeping the natives from becoming overly restless. The Israeli-Egyptian siege of Gaza is back to business as usual and the West Bankers are relatively quiet about it. Winter started and construction materials are still blocked from entering Gaza but it should be noted that Israel gave its approval for the building of a Coca Cola bottling plant there.

  12. Kay24 on November 3, 2014, 1:05 pm

    Cover up for MORE illegal settlements from Haaretz:

    Jerusalem planners approve construction of 500 settlement homes
    Ramat Shlomo plan was advanced by PM Netanyahu last week, sparking new diplomatic crisis with United States. Site is important nature zone for birds, deer and hyraxes.

    The Jerusalem District Planning and Building Committee on Monday approved a plan to construct 500 housing units in Ramat Shlomo, a Jewish neighborhood situated over the Green Line in East Jerusalem.

    The US response (lame as usual, because nothing will change US policies regarding the criminals)

    “U.S. slams Israel’s ‘unfortunate’ building plan in East Jerusalem
    After Jerusalem panel approves 500 new East Jerusalem homes, State Department spokesman says U.S. continuing to enagage with Israeli government to make its stance against settlement construction clear.

    So these attacks against Palestinians in East Jerusalem are perhaps part of getting rid of the Arabs so that the bustards can steal more land. It is a shame that God’s chosen has no regard for the wild life and God’s other creatures.

    • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 6:10 pm

      God’s Chosen? Didn’t he already scatter them once? Couldn’t they take the hint?

      If I hear the US Government call something criminal that Israel does “unfortunate” one more time . . .

      Besides, it’s wrong. From Israel’s point of view, it is very fortunate indeed that they get to do whatever they want in Jerusalem.

      Or as the State Department likes to say, “Here comes the big, scary International Community . . .” (That threat might actually hold water if we didn’t keep vetoing everything they try to do.) It’s sickness on top of sickness.

      • Kay24 on November 3, 2014, 9:03 pm

        It has become an insanity that goes on like an endless nightmare. I don’t think it will ever stop, at least not in our lifetime.

      • Mooser on November 3, 2014, 9:28 pm

        Gosh, I’d like to out-live ZIonism. That’d be nice.

      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 4:47 pm

        Didn’t Moses live to be 900 or so? Maybe you’ll just make it.

      • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 6:08 pm

        “Maybe you’ll just make it.”

        Outlived pot prohibition, just saying, I mean. I thought that was forever. So who knows?

      • Kay24 on November 5, 2014, 7:04 am

        Mooser, zionism is deadlier than pot. Just saying. :))

      • Mooser on November 5, 2014, 3:33 pm

        “Mooser, zionism is deadlier than pot. Just saying. :))”

        I wouldn’t know, I never really tried it. Oh, I was exposed to it, but I wouldn’t inhale, I guess.

      • Mooser on November 9, 2014, 4:17 pm

        “Didn’t Moses live to be 900 or so?”

        I think it was Methuselah (the Prophet who predicted the amphetamine plague) who, surprisingly, lived 900 years. But who calls that livin’, when no gal will give in, to no man what’s 900 years!

  13. a blah chick on November 3, 2014, 1:11 pm

    ““If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.”

    Well, at least he cleared up the confusion about who is a terrorist and who isn’t.

    • just on November 3, 2014, 1:25 pm

      fascist thinking, with a heaping dollop of the grimmest of fairy tales (among other things that are not suitable for printing on this good site).

  14. Marnie on November 3, 2014, 1:18 pm

    This summer’s festivities in Gaza seem to me to be a prelude of something coming that is much worse. To get all of the israelis hands covered in blood is the direction the Netanyahu government has in mind. If everyone takes part in the blood letting, it can’t be wrong, right? I’m sick to death of the people who always come back with “What about ISIS?” “What about what’s happening in Syria” and some israeli shits even have the brass to bring up “What about Ferguson?” As if any of them actually give a damn about Yadzidi’s, Syrians or African Americans. Anything to distract. It’ll be great to watch the coverage on MSNBC, wait a minute – nevermind.

    • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 11:08 am

      “To get all of the israelis hands covered in blood is the direction the Netanyahu government has in mind. If everyone takes part in the blood letting, it can’t be wrong, right?”

      Thanks, Marnie. You’ve just articulated the awful feeling I’ve had since Protective Edge started.
      Well, we can expect our Zionists to tell us the heart of Judaism is shared bloodletting.

      • Marnie on November 4, 2014, 12:41 pm

        I’ve never been afraid of a place or a people before; that’s not exactly true, I’ve read enough books to keep me from ever venturing further south than Indiana. It’s really frightening when the mob rules.

      • Mooser on November 5, 2014, 6:41 pm

        Thanks for responding. Yes, they seem intent absolutely intent on pushing Israelis and Zionists everywhere, into a corner, into an extreme situation from which there is no retreat. And not letting up until that is achieved.

  15. Kris on November 3, 2014, 1:36 pm

    Off topic, but this should be shared before it’s removed from youtube:

    It’s the Al Jazeera report, “The Day Israel Attacked America,” about Israel’s attack on the U.S.S. Liberty in international waters, leaving 2/3 of the crew dead or wounded. I thought I already knew all about this attack on the Liberty, but I didn’t know the half of it.

    Using the Freedom of Information Act, Al Jazeera obtained absolute proof that the U.S. government knew that this was a deliberate attack by Israel to prevent the U.S.S. Liberty, an intelligence-gathering ship, from informing the White House of Israel’s imminent attacks on the Golan Heights and Syria.

    I hope Mondoweiss will do an article about this excellent documentary. The year after Israel killed and injured all these U.S. sailors by torpedoes, missiles, machine gun fire, and napalm, the U.S. multiplied its annual tribute to Israel, and also replenished Israel’s depleted arsenal.

  16. amigo on November 3, 2014, 2:01 pm

    “If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.” Rossman

    Well , here are another 100 plus candidates for special treatment.Would these guys be challenging the sovereignty of Israel??.

    “106 retired Israeli generals, spy chiefs urge Netanyahu to push for peace”

    “The 106 signers of the current letter to Netanyanu include 101 IDF veterans with the rank of brigadier or major general, as well as two former chiefs of the Mossad intelligence agency and three former commanders of Israel’s National Police. ”

    Just to point out , Israel sure has a lot of Generals and Brigand-diers.

    • just on November 3, 2014, 5:14 pm

      probably a smart move. take a stand for ‘peace’ before they are tried for war crimes…

    • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 5:59 pm

      On the plus side, good for them.

      On the other hand, I’m tired of people only finding their stones in retirement. We need someone with some morals, some power, and the ability to bridge the two to SPEAK UP. Now.

      Where the heck is the Israeli or American Spartacus?

      • Citizen on November 3, 2014, 7:00 pm

        Kirk Douglas said in his dotage he never trusted any Goy. Alas, he had it so horrible in the USA.

      • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 8:02 pm

        I guess we can now edit that film to have every slave say, “He’s Spartacus. He’s Spartacus.”

  17. eljay on November 3, 2014, 2:43 pm

    Thursday morning, I met Jeremy Rossman, a 22-year-old settler from New York … “If somebody challenges Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, he’s a terrorist.”

    Zio-supremacists don’t seem to realize how utterly stupid and hypocritical they sound when they defend Jewish supremacism and the supremacist “Jewish State”. It’s as though they think their hateful and immoral shit doesn’t stink.

  18. ivri on November 3, 2014, 2:56 pm

    There is no need to be hypocrite and not admit the obvious (just because it is not politically correct)– there is indeed a desire, of historical roots and dimensions, to make Jerusalem the capital of the Jewish world and of a Jewish State. All the other nations, or religions, have their main cities and adding Jerusalem to the list is part and parcel of the at-long-last emerging normalization of the Jewish people – following horrendous experiences when in exile in Europe and other old-world places. Given the minimal size of land concerned (after all the entire State of Israel is comparable to a small state in the US), the huge size of Arabia, the care not to uproot local inhabitants in the process (a lot is done through commercial land deals), the million times more brutal conflicts not just generally in the world (even in the not that distant past) but right now in the region around Israel, why not show a bit more understanding? Why be so negative and mean about it?

    • annie on November 3, 2014, 11:29 pm

      the care not to uproot local inhabitants in the process (a lot is done through commercial land deals),

      we’re not stupid. in the name of “jerusalem” israel most definitely annexing more an more land that clearly does not belong to them exclusively (historicqlly or otherwise) and continues to expanding the municipality of jerusalem”all the time.

      besides, jerusalem is no more the capital of “the jewish world” than new york, hollywood or DC are.

    • eljay on November 4, 2014, 7:10 am

      >> ivreee: … there is indeed a desire … to make Jerusalem the capital of the Jewish world and of a Jewish State.

      “Jewish world” – that’s a new one.

      Regardless, there is no just or moral reason for a supremacist “Jewish State” to exist, and there is no just or moral reason for Jerusalem to be its capital city.

      • annie on November 4, 2014, 4:00 pm

        ivri claims we’re ‘hypocritcal’ and not “admit[ing] the obvious” that “there is indeed a make Jerusalem the capital of the Jewish world and of a Jewish State”

        ha! i’ll “admit” any day of the week that there is “indeed a desire” to make jerusalem the capital of some “jewish world” and the capital of israel, that’s pretty dern obvious if you ask me. what i don’t get is why he thinks “a desire” connotes a right!

        if anything the actions of the state of israel demonstrate quite clearly israel deserves no such right. where the HYPOCRISY lies is not acknowledging that clearly zionists in general and israeli leaders in particular do not respect holy places otherwise they wouldn’t sh*t all over other peoples.

        what’s hypocritical is expecting anyone to respect a jewish holy place, much less grant them sovereignty over others holy places, when they have demonstratively proven time again they are not worthy of such respect.

        what’s hypocritical is believing a religion representing a tiny and minute portion of mankind’s population should have any jurisdiction what so ever over the only internationally recognized holy city, representing all 3 abrahamic religions (collectively 3.78 billion christians and muslims vs 14 million jews worldwide, many of them not even religious) in the entire world. so what on earth would justify handing sovereignty over to israel? a country whose regime completely disrespects worshippers time and again on holy days and throughout the year! it’s insane is what it is.

        you want your own holy city, ivri? go make another. because what remains of jewish antiquity in jerusalem doesn’t amount to even .09 of what’s there. the vast majority of everything standing in jerusalem that could be considered antiquated was built by arabs, primarily muslims. it’s an arab city israel has been judaizing. with the exception of the last 100 years you have to go back centuries to find traces of jewish labor. arabs built that city, maintained that city, and protected that city ..and now some zionists come along and desire it? so what! by the actions of the regime, you’ve already proved you’re not worthy.

    • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 11:13 am

      “part and parcel of the at-long-last emerging normalization of the Jewish people”

      “Part and parcel?” You mean the establishment of the State of Israel wasn’t enough? Now, that’s only “part and parcel” of all the things we have to do for Zionism to acheive “normalization of the Jewish people”?

      Well, “ivri”, I worry about a lot of things, but whether I’m a ‘normalized Jew’ isn’t one of them. Do you worry a lot about not being normal?

      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 4:51 pm

        I generally stop reading something if I encounter the phrase, “part & parcel.” I’m never disappointed.

      • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 6:12 pm

        “part & parcel.”

        Sounds like a description of me combing my hair. Or what’s left of it.

    • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 11:46 am

      “All the other nations, or religions, have their main cities”

      Oh, jeez, I’m sorry, “ivri”! I keep on forgetting you are ten years old.

      • just on November 4, 2014, 12:08 pm

        “Why be so negative and mean about it?”

        perhaps younger than that.

        ” at-long-last emerging normalization of the Jewish people”

        Jewish people don’t need Apartheid/Occupation Israel to be ‘normal’.

      • just on November 4, 2014, 5:13 pm

        “Why be so negative and mean about it?”

        It’s not mean. Jerusalem is NOT yours. I tend to be mindful of others’ property.

    • Marnie on November 4, 2014, 12:53 pm

      When you speak of “historical roots and dimensions”, are you speaking about biblical history? Can you be certain that your roots go back to antiquity – can anybody? Hell no. So you practice a faith and your understanding tells you Israel is your home. But its other people’s home too, people whose roots are hundreds of years of uninterrupted residence. But your understanding trumps their reality? If it were about anything else, would you really buy it? I’m really making an effort not to be “mean”, but it really has become challenging.

    • Teapot on November 4, 2014, 6:02 pm

      the huge size of Arabia”

      And here I thought I knew my geography. Silly me for thinking the Middle East had lots of different countries.

      • just on November 4, 2014, 11:35 pm


        good catch, Teapot. there was so much to unpack in his comment, it passed right past me.

      • Citizen on November 5, 2014, 4:38 am

        “the huge size of Arabia”
        “the steep influence of world Jewry”?

      • Mooser on November 5, 2014, 6:45 pm

        Just, if you ever run out of ipecac, try conceiving or the person to whom “ivri’s” comment above would be a “hell yes” or “of course, of course, right you are” proposition. Pretty emetic, the shared assumptions (and believe me, they don’t need to be between Jew and Jew by any means) necessary.

      • just on November 5, 2014, 8:05 pm

        thanks for the tip, Mooser. i won’t have to restock my bunker with unexpired ipecac ever again!

        seriously though, i had enough of that on other sites (including Wapo and NYT). my gut couldn’t handle it anymore, and the helmet that prevented my brain from exploding got too hot and tight.

        i’m better now. ;-} besides, spending time combating paid (or not) extremist hasbarists on some sites is mostly a waste of time. i do appreciate MW because an honest exchange of ideas is possible…

  19. a blah chick on November 3, 2014, 4:30 pm

    Those two guys in the picture above look like refugees from “Battleship Potemkin.”

    • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 6:13 pm

      Funny how thugs, regardless of country or time, all have that same stunted look.

  20. seafoid on November 3, 2014, 5:13 pm

    The Nazis mowed the lawn a lot. I don’t think it’s an appropriate phrase for people who organize a conference called “never ending genocide”.
    Surely what is not good for the goose is also not good for the gander

    • Horizontal on November 3, 2014, 6:16 pm

      That phrase is curiously troubling; almost like it’s a perverse romance.

      • Mooser on November 4, 2014, 11:18 am

        “That phrase is curiously troubling”

        Me, I think that “never ending genocide” is a nasty little trick. Look, ultimately, life is a “never ending genocide”, we all die, and we all worry about it, have some awareness of it. To manipulate the normal, and must-be-accepted existential anxiety into a fear of “never ending genocide” in Jews is a nasty trick, but it makes people easily manipulable.
        That’s where I think it’s at, for what it’s worth.

      • seafoid on November 4, 2014, 3:59 pm

        Agree totally, Mooser.

        and even if Jews were permanently under threat it wouldn’t mean they should treat the Palestinians as vermin.

      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 4:54 pm

        I’ve woken up in the middle of the night in a fit of existential terror at my own demise, but it passes.

        But I’d never go out the next day and found an entire country based on it.

      • just on November 4, 2014, 5:06 pm

        I hear what you’re saying, Horizontal.

        bloody awful nightmare that does not pass.

      • Mooser on November 5, 2014, 3:40 pm

        “But I’d never go out the next day and found an entire country based on it.”

        To be fair, the earliest Zionists had much more than existential anxiety on their minds, I’m only talking in the context of the “endless genocide” presentation

  21. just on November 3, 2014, 9:02 pm

    highly recommended:

    “Video: Poem for Salem Shamaly, a youth murdered in Gaza

    This is a vocal piece called “Lifeboat,” adapted from a poem by the late Egyptian poet Salah Jahin.

    It is performed by Haidar Eid, the renowned Palestinian writer, activist and university professor born and living in Gaza.

    Eid’s voice echoes over video capturing the last moments of Salem Shamaly, to whom this performance is dedicated, “along with all the martyrs of the Palestinian struggle for liberation.””

    • seafoid on November 4, 2014, 4:10 pm

      The FT had a feature on the migrant boat full of people from Gaza that was rammed in the Med recently, killing over 400 of them.

      Israel bears ultimate responsibility just as the Nazis bear responsibility for all the Jews who died trying to escape Nazism.

      “Mohanad Luthon was in good spirits when he called his uncle on the evening of September 7, a day into the crossing from North Africa to Europe. “We are at sea and everything’s going fine,” he told Onur Cinar, who, like his nephew, comes from Gaza, but has spent the past two decades in Baltimore.

      “In two to three days we will be in Italy,” the 30-year-old mechanic predicted. From there he was hoping to make it to Sweden on the last leg of a 5,000km journey from war and penury to a dream of prosperity and peace. The connection dropped. It was the last time Mr Cinar would hear his nephew’s voice.

      Some 48 hours later, another vessel approached and rammed the migrants’ boat. Mr Luthon and hundreds of fellow passengers now count among the thousands of casualties this year in the watery no-man’s land that is the Mediterranean, as convulsions in the Middle East have tripled the number of migrants arriving at Europe’s southern shores.

      And with Italian authorities declaring on Friday that they will end extensive search-and-rescue operations, paving the way for far more limited EU-funded maritime border patrols that are due to begin on Saturday, the journey looks set to become still more perilous.

      Mr Luthon had reason to be cautiously optimistic when he called his uncle. The Mediterranean is claiming more migrants’ lives than ever before. At least 3,000 died in the first nine months of this year, according to the International Organisation for Migration, double the annual average. But the numbers of those arriving safely is also rising rapidly: some 175,000 this year, more than during the previous four years combined, according to Frontex, the EU’s border agency.

      As Mr Luthon and some 450 others – mostly Palestinian, some Syrian – set off from Damietta on the Egyptian coast in September, their smugglers moved them from one boat to another until they were at sea in a small and overloaded trawler. But at least it was more seaworthy than the rickety Libyan crafts that scarcely leave the shore before sinking. And even if their boat did founder, the Italian navy’s rescue mission was then still in full swing.

      Mr Luthon’s voyage was in its fourth day when another vessel drew alongside, manned by an Egyptian crew, according to survivors’ accounts, which differ in some details of the harrowing journey. They demanded that the migrants switch to a smaller boat for the final leg. It is a common tactic: smugglers unload their passengers, send them on their way, then call in a mayday.

      This time, though, the migrants’ captain balked. Boarding the smaller boat would be suicide. Survivors’ accounts of the altercation that ensued between the smugglers and the captain differ but they concur on what happened next: their boat was rammed and capsized. By one account, the attackers circled and laughed as the terrified migrants tumbled into the sea.

      Many died at once. Others lasted for days before succumbing. By the time passing commercial ships that had been alerted to the shipwreck spotted them in the water, only 11 were still alive. Mr Luthon, his wife and his two cousins were not among them.

      Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein, the UN’s human rights chief, has called the attack “mass murder” and demanded that it “must not go unpunished”. Officials in Europe say the Italian police, which did not respond to a request for comment, is leading an investigation.

      It may not have been able to save Mr Luthon and his fellow passengers, but Mare Nostrum, the Italian naval operation launched after hundreds of migrants drowned when their boat sank off Italy’s southern tip last year, has pulled 150,000 migrants from the water. It will not do so next year.

      Italy’s territorial waters lie on a political and economic faultline. On one side is the Middle East, where warfare in Syria and Gaza has swelled the numbers of those seeking out the services of increasingly sophisticated people-smuggling networks. On the other lies Europe, where anti-immigrant parties are attracting recession-weary voters with calls to galvanise borders.

      The left-right coalition government of Matteo Renzi, Italy’s prime minister, had been sending mixed messages on the future of Mare Nostrum for weeks, but on Friday senior cabinet members confirmed that it would end. Italy will immediately scale back the operations from five large ships to one large ship and three patrol vessels, Roberta Pinotti, the defence minister, said, before scrapping it altogether within two months.

      [Mare Nostrum] was born as an emergency operation with a limited timeframe . . . Italy did its duty

      – Angelino Alfano, Italy’s interior minister

      Tweet this quote

      “It was born as an emergency operation with a limited timeframe – and that’s what it was,” Angelino Alfano, Italy’s interior minister. “Italy did its duty,” he added.

      Mr Renzi’s government had sought to turn Mare Nostrum into a European operation earlier this year so Italy would not have to bear the cost alone, but was rebuffed by many other European countries who felt that it was encouraging immigration to Italy. Eventually, the best Italy could secure was Triton, a far narrower mission with funded by Brussels. But Mr Alfano sought to portray that as a victory. “After many years of chatter, Europe is finally jumping in the water,” he said.

      The budget for Triton, as the new EU operation is known, is only a third of Mare Nostrum’s €9m monthly cost. While it will answer distress calls, it is a patrol rather than a rescue mission and covers a far smaller area than the Italian programme, which ventured close to North African waters.

      Ahead of the Italian decision, this week the UK government described Mare Nostrum as “a pull factor for illegal migration” and said that EU ministers had agreed that Mare Nostrum “should be brought to a well publicised end”. Refugee groups responded with outrage.

      “Everyone is claiming that this should be continued but the criminal networks are counting on this to save money by overcrowding the boats,” Antonio Saccone, head of operational analysis at Frontex, which will run the new Triton programme, told the FT on Thursday. “But this is a dilemma: how can you not save lives?”
      The smuggling networks have flourished in the lawless aftermath of the Arab Spring, particularly in Libya. Charging between $1,000 and $4,000 for a place on a boat bound for Europe, by some estimates they can turn a profit of hundreds of thousands of dollars for each human cargo.

      All of them dream to travel to Europe. All of them know the danger

      – Abu Hamada, people smuggler

      Shadi Farouk al-Jebri, 33, was aboard the same vessel as Mohanad Luthon. A former policeman from Gaza, he spent more than 48 hours treading water. It was, he recalls, “continuous torture”. But eventually a commercial ship picked him up and he was taken to Italy. “Everybody who knew there were people dying because of this and did nothing about it is a criminal,” Mr al-Jebri says of the attackers who sank the migrants’ boat.

      Mr al-Jebri and other survivors say their passage to Egypt and then across the Mediterranean was arranged by a Palestinian-Syrian smuggler called Fouad al-Gamal, known as Abu Hamada.

      Contacted in the Egyptian port city of Alexandria, Abu Hamada spoke to the FT through his English-speaking daughter. He acknowledged that he is paid a commission of $100-$200 by the owner of Europe-bound boats for each migrant he delivers. But he said that, for last month’s fatal voyage, he had delivered no more than 30 of the hundreds who sailed. And he defended his trade: “It’s a useful thing for people who lose their home and they lose their job and they need a place to continue their lives. All of them dream to travel to Europe. All of them know the danger.” “

      • just on November 4, 2014, 4:25 pm

        Israel is responsible. All European countries should cut ties with them.

        This story is sooo sickening.

        How many Palestinian refugees did the US give refuge to? How many Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis that we have bombed homes of?

      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 4:58 pm

        I heard this story on BBC radio. Nary a hint that most of the victims were from Gaza or that it had any relationship whatever to Israel’s then-recent attacks there. Shame on the BBC, and every nation for allowing this to continue.

  22. Daniel Rich on November 3, 2014, 9:28 pm

    “…a 22-year-old settler from New York…”

    Fully self-explanatory.

  23. just on November 4, 2014, 7:37 am

    they don’t even stop for a minute:

    “JERUSALEM (Ma’an) – Israel’s deputy transportation minister Tzipi Hotovely of the Likud party toured the al-Aqsa mosque compound Tuesday morning while being escorted by Israeli police officers.

    Commenting on the unwanted visitor, director of the Al-Aqsa Mosque Sheikh Omar al-Kiswani told Ma’an that “the Israeli occupation continued with its policy of imposing siege on Al-Aqsa Mosque from dawn prayer until noon time.”

    This period, he said, has been allocated for entry of Jews under the so-called “foreign tourism” period.

    The union of “Temple Mount Organizations” have called on thousands of Jews to come to the mosque on Wednesday for a major rally in the holy place. The rally, according to organizers, will be dedicated to prayer for Yehuda Glick, the right-wing rabbi who was shot last week outside an event in Jerusalem. ”

    • Marnie on November 4, 2014, 12:35 pm

      Just, these are the peaceful Jews who only want to be able to pray (somebody has to keep fanning those flames) because they apparently aren’t able to do it anywhere else, it has to be in the magic kingdom of the chosen people.

    • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 5:03 pm

      In other news, the union of “Temple Mount Fox Organizations” announce plans to tour local hen houses. The visits will be dedicated to prayer — mostly of the “saying grace” variety.

  24. Kay24 on November 4, 2014, 7:46 am

    Collective punishment: Israeli forces demolish 2 Palestinian homes citing no permits, the bigger question is, HOW MANY PERMITS HAVE THE OCCUPIER OBTAINED FOR THE GAZILLION ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS? The keep behaving like scumbags, every time.

    “REUTERS – Israeli forces demolished two Palestinian homes on Tuesday in an East Jerusalem neighborhood that has been at the heart of clashes between Israeli police and Palestinian protesters, a move likely to exacerbate weeks of tension in the holy city.

    Authorities knocked down the buildings near the district of Abu Tor, southeast of the Old City, in the early hours, saying they had been built without construction permits.”

  25. seafoid on November 4, 2014, 2:42 pm

    There is a big mess in development on the other side of the egyptian border in Sinai. 30 soldiers were killed by jihadis/gihadis and the junta responded by bulldozing 800 houses in Egyptian rafah.
    Climate change has already driven up the price of beef in the US as drought reduced yields and should there be a similar move in the price of wheat Egypt could have more serious turmoil. The Yanks just want a quiet border for Israel but massive risks have been build ing up over the years and jihad pkus climate change could be a lethal combination.
    Israel needs to treat the Palestinians with resoect because whatever it does will eventually be done to Yossi

    • just on November 4, 2014, 2:47 pm


      • just on November 4, 2014, 5:30 pm

        thanks for the link, seafoid. from the article:

        “For years, smugglers have used tunnels leading from some of these houses to take goods – and sometimes weapons – into Gaza. Last week, the government’s allies briefed that Gazan militants had come back the other way to attack the soldiers at Qawadis.

        “Of course, [the militants] have direct links with Hamas,” said Sameh Seif Elyazal, a retired general who worked with Sisi in military intelligence. “In the last operation on Friday, a few operatives from [Hamas’s] Al-Qassam Brigades came through the tunnels and helped plan and participate in the operation. The Egyptian state is very sure of that.”

        Analysts, however, are not sure: the attack on Qawadis was a relatively simple operation that did not necessarily require outside help. But the government’s allies have found it convenient to blame Hamas, an offshoot of Morsi’s banned Muslim Brotherhood, even if there is little proof. One Qassam commander said by Egypt’s pliant media to have participated in the attack in fact died in the Gaza war in August.

        Whatever the truth, even some of the government’s supporters admit that wreaking collective punishment on the border communities may stoke the insurgency in the long run. The government has promised to compensate residents with about £100 for every square metre lost. But the community is simmering, furious at the speed of their evictions and at being forced to move dozens of miles to find alternative accommodation.”

        Sameh Seif Elyazal appears to be a consummate LIAR.

        that picture of duly elected President Morsi behind bars makes me ill.

    • seafoid on November 4, 2014, 2:48 pm

      I know that Jerusalem is really central to Jewish tradition but for a very long time it was a metaphorical rather than a physical connection. And the prayers in Lodz were just as meaningful.

      The middle East is going to go through hell with climate change and Israel will get sucked into it inevitably.

      Water will determine what happens. It doesn’t matter how disciplined the Israelis are- if they don’t cut a deal with the Palestinians before it’s too ate at some point the jihadis will arrive at the border. They could be ISIS v 9.0

      And as you sow so shall you reap.

      There is all the guidance the IDF needs in the Torah, really.
      And the Yanks won’t be able to push reality away forever.

      • Walid on November 4, 2014, 4:06 pm

        “The middle East is going to go through hell with climate change and Israel will get sucked into it inevitably.”

        To its credit, Israel has the best water management expertise in the region and from way back has been developing ways of recycling waste water, desalinating sea water, reducing water needs in agriculture and so on. Its desalination is now producing about half of its drinking water requirements and 80% of its wastewater is recycled, making it the highest recycler in the world. Nonetheless, Israel to its discredit has been getting by and continues to do so by stealing about 75% of the water it needs from the Syrians, the Lebanese and the Palestinians. The 75% is being stolen from the Golan, Chebaa Farms and the West Bank. Water is probably the main reason why Israel refuses to end its occupation.

      • seafoid on November 4, 2014, 4:15 pm

        Israel might have great water tech but it wastes an awful lot of it and needs all the free stuff in YESHA .
        If the region blows up because of drought (and the brief flourishing of the first Jewish kingdom in shangri la was on the back of a previous regional drought that weakened the other local rulers) Jihad is going to be cooler than Kim Kardashian’s ass.
        And Israel at the end of the day is a garrison state on the edge of Asia surrounded by Arabs. If none of the neighbours are doing well and chaos reigns how is Israel going to maintain its poise and balance? I’m sure there’ll be Russian missiles popping over borders in the direction of BGA.

      • Horizontal on November 4, 2014, 5:06 pm

        Water is probably the main reason why Israel refuses to end its occupation.

        Yes. A big, unspoken one.

      • seafoid on November 4, 2014, 5:52 pm

        Even the occupation plays by certain rules. As long as the Israelis do x the Palestinians will refrain from doing y.

        Self interest or system equilibrium or whatever you want to call it.

        It’s the same with Israel’s relationship with Lebanon. there are rules that are observed. Hizbollah can say whatever on TV but they don’t do stupid stuff on the border. Neither does Israel. Equilbrium.

        But when Egypt blows up because it can’t afford international wheat to make bread with there won’t be any rules. And when Jordan starts experiencing drought it’ll be the same.
        All that descent of society into barbarism that we see on tv from Iraq- that’s coming to Israel.

        If I were a Shin Bet strategist I’d weigh up the attachment to Jerusalem against the risks of staying in situ. Because it’s a lovely city but it’s a semi desert region and climate change is coming. And some things are more important than buildings.

  26. seafoid on November 5, 2014, 6:20 am

    Israeli police say a man has rammed a car into a crowded train platform in east Jerusalem in an “intentional attack”.
    The police then shot and killed the attacker.
    Police officials say the car hit the train platform, then rammed into cars, after which the driver jumped out and tried to run away. The officials say he then attacked a group of policemen with a crowbar before he was shot and killed.
    Wednesday’s attack came just over a week after a similar attack by a Palestinian motorist who drove into a train platform and killed a baby girl.
    Palestinian protesters and Israeli police have clashed almost daily in east Jerusalem in recent months.
    More soon
    dead, 3 seriously wounded in Jerusalem terror attack
    At least 14 people wounded when a car hits pedestrians on Shimon Hatzadik Street. Police shoot and kill driver, Ibrahim al-Akri, from Shuafat.
    By Nir Hasson, Ido Efrati, Amira Hass and Haaretz | Nov. 5, 2014 | 1:11 PM

    Jerusalem terror attack, November 5, 2014. Photo by Olivier Fitoussi

    EJ Palestinian mows the lawn

    “One person was killed and at least 13 people were wounded in a terror attack near East Jerusalem on Wednesday after a commercial vehicle drove into a crowd of people on Shimon Hatzadik Street, near the entrance to the capital.
    Two of the casualties are reported to be in critical condition and one in serious condition.
    The name of the driver, according to the Islamic Jihad website, was Ibrahim al-Akri, from Shhuefat, in East Jerusalem.
    According to rescue unit head Eli Bir, who was one of the first on the scene, the vehicle hit several pedestrians on Highway 1, at a bus stop on the corner of Shimon Hatzadik Street, then continued on to the next junction, at Moshe Zaks Street, where it ploughed into more pedestrians.
    The driver then exited the vehicle and began attacking people with a metal rod, before being shot and killed by police.
    The trauma ward at Hadassah Hospital EIn Karem received three patients in serious condition who are now being assessed.

    Another four casualties were taken to Shaarei Zedek Hospital, three with moderate injuries and one lightly injured.
    Tensions in Jerusalem have been particularly following the shooting of a right-wing activist last week and the police’s killing of the Palestinian man suspected of the crime.
    Last month, a three-month-old baby was killed and seven other people were wounded when a Palestinian drove his car into a light rail train station near Ammunition Hill in Jerusalem and ran over passersby disembarking from the train”

    Ammunition hill is a settlement area in East Jerusalem.

    • just on November 5, 2014, 9:58 am

      Extrajudicial killings, no protection under the law, no equal rights, a complicit police force that shields Jewish extremists, no justice and more…

      let’s see a real trial for once.

      Ammunition Hill. Reminds me of Rumsfeld’s home at Mt. Misery.

      • seafoid on November 5, 2014, 10:10 am

        Ammunition hill is such a Zionist name, isn’t it? It reeks of paranoia.

      • seafoid on November 5, 2014, 10:12 am

        When a Jew kills Palestinians it’s mental illness. When a Palestinian kills Jews it’s a terrorist.

      • Mooser on November 5, 2014, 3:43 pm

        Seafoid “Ammunition Hill” sounds to me like something from among the Mandate’s souvenirs.

    • Kay24 on November 5, 2014, 10:48 am

      You are right seafoid, you describe perfectly the hypocrisy that Israel is notorious for. In fact their criminals get off lightly when a Palestinian is injured or killed, maybe arrested, and treated like precious gems. This Palestinian was shot without hesitation like the previous one was in a similar incident.

      The Israeli people are outraged about this incident, but seems okay that their brutal military used deadly weapons on thousands of Palestinians. Arab lives are so cheap eh?

      • seafoid on November 5, 2014, 11:17 am

        90% of Jewish Israelis are brainwashed. The only ones with any sense of perspective are the other 10% and the 48 Palestinians.

        It comes out very clearly at the end of this video at 6:28

  27. Mooser on November 10, 2014, 4:34 pm

    You know, I look at the top photo in the article, and I almost expect them to break start singing “It’s fun to stay at the Y-E-S-H-A, it’s fun to stay at the…”

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