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“Swift elections must be held, and a new, united and strong government must be formed,” Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu announced this evening calling for early Knesset elections hours after firing opposition members Yair Lapid and Tzipi Livni from his cabinet.

Netanyahu opened a televised press conference from his Jerusalem office, “I turn to you, the citizens of Israel, this evening because under the current situation, from within the current government, it is impossible to lead a state,” He then outlined his achievements in office, citing his dealings with the Iran, construction in Jerusalem and Gaza, stating he led “one of the best and most stable governments in the history of Israel.”

Yet Netanyahu took a decidedly defensive position railing against his critics, as he has done in Knesset sessions over the past few days, lambasting cabinet members and political rivals Yair Lapid and Tzipi Livni by name.

According to an early partial transcript published by Haaretz he said“During Operation Protective Edge, I led the operation with the defense minister and the chief of staff – we acted with determination and consideration, and I was not put off by criticism or background noise.” He continued, “But this government has been much harder.”

“Livni is the last to talk about responsibility,” said Netanyahu adding, “Today, a little while ago, she attacked the government again. Livni and Lapid have one thing in common–they talk about new politics, but in practice they practice old politics.”

Indeed earlier in the day both Lapid and Livni spoke against Netanyahu, as the Knesset was already discussing possible election dates. Netanyahu was criticized for his Jewish nationality law that would define Israel as a “Jewish state” (Netanyahu’s hardline version of the draft omitted the word “equality” between Israeli-Jews and Palestinian citizens of Israel), a proposed increase of $1.5 billion to the defense budget,and a VAT tax exemption for first time home purchases

“The elections are not over zero VAT, but about whether there will be a Zionist or extremist country here,” said Livni that same  day at a security conference in Tel Aviv.

“Instead of wasting billions of shekels on an unnecessary election campaign, instead of paralyzing the Israeli economy, we could have passed a socially oriented budget, added billions of shekels to education, health and welfare, public security, continue with the national housing plan that increased the supply dramatically, and given young couples a discount of over 200,000 shekels on new apartments through zero VAT and the targeted price plan,” said Yair Lapid at an energy conference also in Tel Aviv today.

Within hours of giving their statements decrying Netanyahu, both Knesset members were dismissed from their posts. The prime minister’s office circulated a notice of the termination two hours before Netanyahu called for an unusual 8:00 pm press conference where he announced the coming elections. No date has been set, but commentators are suggesting a March vote.

As Knesset edges towards a return to the polls and the selection of a Prime Minister, Netanyahu will do so without his strongest coalition partners. He has lost the centrist Yesh Atid led by now opposition head Yair Lapid and Netanyahu’s one time right hand, the far-right Yisrael Beiteinu headed by Avigdor Lieberman.

Weeks ago when Knesset debated the state’s economic health while planning a new state budget Lapid grew angry over Netanyahu’s refusal to cut expenditures to the settlements, foreshadowing the early elections. Netanyahu formulated a solution to cover the budget gaps: sell off state-owned defense industries. Since that time fiscal management differences moved Netanyahu away from Lapid and Yesh Atid.

However, Netanyahu was vulnerable to losing his mandate as prime minster since the summer.

During the 50-day war in Gaza Lieberman said his Yisrael Beiteinu party was splitting from the ruling bloc. This was reiterated yesterday. The loss of the hard-right group was a damaging hit for Netanyahu as he remained the majority leader by only one vote. Similar to the British parliamentary system, if an Israeli Prime Minister’s cabinet does not represent a ruling majority in the Knesset, or there is a vote of no confidence, the government will dissolve ushering in new elections. In order to maintain his position after Lieberman left, Netanyahu needed the support of Lapid and Livni. But they effectively ended the coalition yesterday when the they refused to back Netanyahu’s Jewish nationality law and the VAT-exemption.

“Those of you who hear me now and want a prime minister from the left–can elect [their own] candidate; those who want a strong prime minister from the national camp–those from the center and from the right–I am asking you to elect the ruling party under my leadership in order to give me a real mandate to lead the people and the country,” said Netanyahu, braving another chance at the polls.

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  1. a blah chick on December 2, 2014, 6:12 pm

    I think I read on one of the Israeli sites that Lieberman’s party is polling low and will lose seats. Meanwhile Lapid’s vanity party might not make the threshold and wouldn’t that be simple justice?

    • seafoid on December 2, 2014, 10:40 pm

      The secular ashkenazim he represents will still hate the Haredim so it might not change. They are all powerless to stop the rot though so it hardly matters. Israel’s Dorian Gray moments appear to be intensifying.

      • ziusudra on December 3, 2014, 6:19 am

        Greetings seafoid,
        …askenaszim….
        There ne’er was an ashkenaz except the o.t. biblical figure.
        Askenasz & Sephardim are both now atavistic & downright silly.
        Euro. Jewry stopped identifying themselves as Sephardim with the commencement of miscegenation of 200BC in Greece & later in the 12th C AD with the converted Khazars in Euro.
        There are 14 Million of World Jewry, 40% live in the State of Israel & are recognized as Israeli citizens.
        A bigger problem is that these 40% of 6 Million in Israel, have 5 Sects within
        Judaism causing political problems with a compounded irony of only right wing Governments since 48! So few people & so confused.
        ziusudra
        PS If Israelis call others, Ashkenasz or Sephardim, is that racism or anti-Euro Ethnicity?

      • DaBakr on December 4, 2014, 1:53 pm

        you make far too much hay about “ashkenazim” vs. “haredim” as is typical of those who do not know Israel, or experience mainstream life there. So many small groupings stemming from larger groups. typical of anti-Zionist commentators to exaggerate something that is not really an issue in Israel. Yes, there is a class issue in Israel just as ALL developing and developed nations have class issues but its far too simplistic to relegate this to ashkanasm and hareidi and mostly has to do with the stuggling middle class as in most EU, US and other nations. The haredim conflict exists mostly in the minds of outsiders and a small segment of the radical Haaretz.

      • Mooser on December 6, 2014, 10:33 pm

        “Yes, there is a class issue in Israel just as ALL developing and developed nations have class issues but its far too simplistic to relegate this to ashkanasm and hareidi and mostly has to do with the stuggling middle class as in most EU, US and other nations”

        Exactly! Being “struggling middle class” is pretty miserable, but when you are in Israel, you know the oligarchs, and the bureaucracy and corporations that take advantage of you are Jewish! That makes it a pleasure.

    • Krauss on December 3, 2014, 2:31 am

      Blah chick, the best analysis I’ve read in the Israeli press is this one:

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4598969,00.html

      A lot of “analysis” is just wishful thinking, especially from places like Haaretz “15 reasons why Netanyahu might lose” or “it’s everyone vs Netanyahu now”.

      These are self-deluding Zionists who wish to have another PM. But as the guy in the link explains, there is no alternative. Livni is finished. Lapid has been cut down by half. Labor is stuck in nowhereland.

      Bennett is rising. The new guy, Kahlon, he is a former Likudnik. He may be to the left of Bibi on economic issues but on issues of race and nationalism, he is right in the square of the camp. Of course, so is Lapid/Livni, but Kahlon is unapolegitic.

      The reason why Bibi went to election is because he knows that his former rivals are very weak. He can form a majority-government without any so-called “centrists” according to just about every poll.
      This means Bibi+Bennett+Lieberman and the ultra-Orthodox parties put together.

      This is what Bibi wants, because he needs that to get through the Jewish Nationality Bill, among others. Bibi could end up as Israel’s Erdogan or Putin. He is well on his way already.

  2. piotr on December 2, 2014, 6:21 pm

    It is easy to understand that Lapid and Livni had some limit — however lax — on tolerating right wing drift. But what is Lieberman doing there? The only thing I can think about is that his party was supposedly secular, and while before deviation from “secularism” did not bother him too much, Israel Beitenu was actually loosing the Russian vote, while he was also bypassed as ultra-nationalist by the “standard” Likud.

    There is indeed quite insane atmosphere in Israel. Bennet is fighting with hardliners of his party! People with a tenuous hold on reality are slugging it out with abjectly insane. There is a legislature in the work increasing the penalty for unauthorized officiating of Jewish marriages to two years in prison. Inevitably, when many people are energized in that fashion, many are also revolted, so my “political theory” would suggest that political following in the electorate will have very wide swings.

    • a blah chick on December 2, 2014, 10:39 pm

      “People with a tenuous hold on reality are slugging it out with abjectly insane.”

      A more succinct description of Israeli politics I have yet to hear.

    • seafoid on December 2, 2014, 10:43 pm

      The sop to young house buyers is interesting. Israel is running a property boom so the election is also about how to dole out entitlements. Nobody is thinking strategically.

    • Marshall on December 3, 2014, 6:12 am

      “People with a tenuous hold on reality are slugging it out with the abjectly insane” Great Line!

  3. ritzl on December 2, 2014, 6:53 pm

    So is this the point in Israel’s arc that the Jewish “out” parties ally with the “Arab” parties and Hadash to form a governing coalition? Seems like that’s their last best hope to change the direction of the country.

    I know, I know. Never going to happen. But I can’t help but say that now is when it should happen. The time is right.

    If, by some miracle it does happen, it would be the first tentative and/or evolutionary step toward an egalitarian one-state outcome.

    • gracie fr on December 5, 2014, 3:33 pm

      Journalist Max Blumenthal says centrist parties have no other political purpose besides promoting the image of Israel as the only democracy in the Middle East –

      http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12759

      • ritzl on December 5, 2014, 8:54 pm

        Agree gracie.

        Unfortunately, retrospectively and prospectively, the centrist parties + Meretz appear to simply want to be Losers rather than risk some future-aimed vibrancy in Israeli politics, by broadening their horizons and nurturing/embracing Israel’s almost certain future political landscape.

        I had always believed that ALL pols were self-aggrandizing power-seekers (for good or evil). Apparently not in Israel. In Israel, as you say, half seem to be witting props for Israel’s “mystery political theater [2000].”

  4. ckg on December 2, 2014, 9:55 pm

    Today Netanyahu torched a couple of political bridges to the relatively less extreme factions. If he survives re-election as PM as he is expected to do, watch out.

  5. oldgeezer on December 2, 2014, 10:52 pm

    “He then outlined his achievements in office, citing his dealings with the Iran, construction in Jerusalem and Gaza,”

    In Israel, war mongering, war crimes and crimes against humanity become achievements. Depravity defined.

    • seafoid on December 3, 2014, 5:02 am

      I was thinking the same

      Vote for me because we bombed hospitals.

      • just on December 3, 2014, 6:07 am

        “we bombed hospitals”, burned schools, targeted medics,
        slaughtered little people on a Gaza beach, incited humans to pour gasoline down another human’s throat and set him on fire, etc.

        And he’s proud that ““During Operation Protective Edge, I led the operation with the defense minister and the chief of staff – we acted with determination and consideration, and I was not put off by criticism or background noise.””

    • justicewillprevail on December 3, 2014, 1:26 pm

      “dealings with ‘the’ Iran’ – what is he blathering about now? Does he mean executing Iranian scientists illegally? Or simply browbeating Congress into passing ludicrous bills to shore up his pathetic fear mongering and demonising? Maybe he still relishes as his piece de resistance the triumphant exposure of Iran’s cartoon bombs at the UN – bringing so much amazement at Israel’s brilliant intelligence from the world’s diplomats. That counts as ‘dealing with’? The man is utterly deluded – so a perfect shoo-in for a deluded citizenry.
      I daresay he wears as a badge of honour the ruins of Gaza, whose inhabitants will have no respite from a cold winter, as he bravely refuses to let in materials which could alleviate the suffering he has caused them. Yes, nothing will be accomplished by this man, save destruction, death and misery – what an endorsement for the israel project, he is the exemplar of its philosophy.

  6. Pixel on December 2, 2014, 11:40 pm

    Several observations:

    1. Words matter. “During the 50-day war in Gaza …” should, more accurately be, “During the 50-day slaughter…”

    2. At least on my LED, in the photo above, Netanyahu appears to now be using purple “silver enhancing” shampoo. Like many older ladies who also follow that fashion trend, over time, their head begins to take on an unfortunate violent ( oops, violet) hue.

    3. In the same photo, his skin looks slightly yellow to me. Combined with #2, above, it’s a very bad look for him. Some may consider that a man with particularly yellow skin is jaundiced. Others may more correctly diagnosis Netanyahu with cowardice.

    • Pixel on December 2, 2014, 11:59 pm

      Alison, dear auth’r,

      i hast forgotten to thank thou f’r this wonderful piece of writing. Were it that we still had the “edit” button of old, thou would nev’r hast known aught was amiss. Anon, I am caught out, as everyone now knowest mine shame.

      Prithee forgive me.

      Thy ardent admirer,

      Pixecles

      • Pixel on December 3, 2014, 12:02 am

        (Shakespeare wrote they name with only one “L”)

      • mcohen. on December 3, 2014, 12:46 am

        the edit button is gone because somebody was fiddling with the comments…..imho

      • annie on December 4, 2014, 2:10 am

        i love that pixel!

        mcohen the edit button is gone because somebody was fiddling with the comments…..imho

        hmm, it really doesn’t work like that. the only “somebody” (‘s) w/access to edit others posts, now and then, is staff. there’s never been one complaint suggesting a commenter or outsider had access to edit others comments.

        the edit button is gone because the new formatting didn’t format it. i’ve heard nothing about it from other adims. maybe i should write them .. have you written them?

      • Mooser on December 9, 2014, 3:13 pm

        I might add that the former five-minute window for editing (your own) comments did not allow a person to go back to a comment and change it in response to another comment. Wouldn’t allow that at all.

        Does everybody know that (given a large enough screen), the bottom right-hand corner of the comment box can be ‘grasped’, and the comment box opened to a larger size? Makes it easier if you write longer comments. I try never to type anything which won’t fit in the box, but you might have more to say.

  7. Peter in SF on December 3, 2014, 1:12 am

    The headline is embarrassing to the site: “Netanyahu … firing opposition members Lapid and Livni”? These were not members of the opposition, but members of other parties in the governing coalition, as the article itself says. The headline doesn’t even make sense, because the prime minister doesn’t have the power to “fire” opposition members.

    This article also says:

    During the 50-day war in Gaza Lieberman said his Yisrael Beiteinu party was splitting from the ruling bloc.

    The linked JPost article makes it clear that Yisrael Beiteinu was splitting from the Likud, but would remain in the governing coalition. So the next part of the article above doesn’t make sense to me:

    The loss of the hard-right group was a damaging hit for Netanyahu as he remained the majority leader by only one vote. Similar to the British parliamentary system, if an Israeli Prime Minister’s cabinet does not represent a ruling majority in the Knesset, or there is a vote of no confidence, the government will dissolve ushering in new elections. In order to maintain his position after Lieberman left, Netanyahu needed the support of Lapid and Livni.

    Lieberman did not leave the government.

  8. M. Kalundi on December 3, 2014, 4:28 am

    Now that Tzipi Livni has fallen from favour, the way is clear for her to be prosecuted for her war crimes in 2008/9 and 20014 and any others.

    The UK protected her by using diplomatic immunity as a shield (when she visited that country). That cannot be valid any more, I hope she visits again.

    • DaBakr on December 4, 2014, 2:02 pm

      better sharpen your pencil as you would be surprised at the length of the list of international leaders, diplomats and citizens that interpol will have to start rounding up if GB were to implement its so-called ‘war crime’ statute based on level f complicity you use to wish for Livni being charged. Exactly how far reaching would you like GB {the irony in this is far to much for me to do anything but laugh} to go in implementation? I suspect your answer will begin and end with Israeli officials which is why so many scoff at the suggestion.

  9. just on December 3, 2014, 5:18 am

    “It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.”
    Aung San Suu Kyi

  10. Kay24 on December 3, 2014, 7:12 am

    Graduate Student Labor Union To Vote On Boycott Of Israel

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/02/graduate-students-bds-california_n_6258006.html

  11. DoubleStandard on December 3, 2014, 8:06 am

    The headline is wrong. “A defensive Netanyahu announces elections hours after firing opposition members Lapid and Livni”

    They are part of his coalition. Although by “opposition” you may have just meant that they were fighting with Netanyahu, there is a technical term “opposition” meaning not part of the coalition.

  12. just on December 3, 2014, 9:12 am

    The turkey is burned, the gravy is gloopy, but the fruits & sage look pretty.

    And David Rosenberg tells us:

    “Let the light shine in

    In fact, Israel is not quite as dark a place as it seems. In many ways, Israel is more democratic than it has ever been.

    Mizrahim – non-Ashkenazi Jews – are closing the socio-economic gap, as evidenced by the country getting its first-ever chief of staff of Moroccan origin. Israel is gay friendly.

    Israel has done a remarkably – though by no means perfect – job of absorbing a polyglot of ethnic communities. Freedom House awards Israel excellent ratings of 1.5 for overall freedom, 2 for civil liberties and 1 for political rights (on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being the highest ratings). The startup phenomenon is not only a business story but a testament to Israel’s social and intellectual dynamism.

    American Jews don’t fully appreciate the difficulties Israel faces as a small country in a hostile region. It is to Israel’s credit that after close to seven decades, it has not succumbed to the worst excesses of intolerance of a country at war. Overtly racist parties in the vein of France’s National Front have never fared well in Israel, even though our system of proportionally representation in the Knesset should have made it easy for them.

    But paint it black……………”

    read more @ http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/david-s-harp/1.629617

    • amigo on December 3, 2014, 1:14 pm

      “In fact, Israel is not quite as dark a place as it seems. ,

      Freedom House awards Israel excellent ratings of 1.5 for overall freedom, 2 for civil liberties and 1 for political rights (on a scale of 1 to 7, with 1 being the highest ratings).” dr

      Freedom House states that its Board of Trustees is composed of “business and labor leaders, former senior government officials, scholars, writers, and journalists”. All board members are current residents of the United States. It does not identify itself with either of the American Republican or the Democratic parties. The board is currently chaired by William H. Taft IV. Taft assumed chairmanship of the board in January 2009, succeeding Peter Ackerman. Other current board members include Kenneth Adelman, Farooq Kathwari, Azar Nafisi, Mark Palmer, P. J. O’Rourke, and Lawrence Lessig,[1] while past board-members have included Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Samuel Huntington, Mara Liasson, Otto Reich, Donald Rumsfeld, Whitney North Seymour, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, and Bayard Rustin.” wiki

      Just look at that list of lovers of freedom. Donald, known unknowns Rumsfeld. Wolfo-blitz.

      FFS.

      • CigarGod on December 3, 2014, 1:18 pm

        The economist democracy index gives a much more honest rating. I think both israel and usa fall lower than a few banana republics.

      • Whizdom on December 3, 2014, 9:49 pm

        Otto Reich? Really?

    • gracie fr on December 3, 2014, 3:46 pm

      Overtly racist parties in the vein of France’s National Front have never fared well in Israel,

      Oh…..

      So what happened to all those angry Israeli right wing Nationalists shouting on television we’ve all seen lately or were they a product of my imagination????

    • DaBakr on December 4, 2014, 2:10 pm

      @jst
      yes ther are mizrahim and yes there are other ‘groupings’ of israeli jews but don’t you understand that just as in the US-where I am guessing you live-everybody marries everybody? Of course there are orthodox who ascribe to orthodox ways but most secular Israeli Jews marry whomever they love. Do US presbyterians not marry episcopals or catholic? Southern belles not marry yankee beaus? ‘Redneck’ mountain folks marry Latino desert folks. And so on. As I wrote earlier-its usually non-Israeli anti-Zionist that make so much out of the ashkensm/mizrahi issue. Mostly what Israel suffers from is a class issue between middle class and upper class and a large part of the Israeli-Arab population falls within the middle-to-upper middle class with some, but fewer ultra rich and a larger, but not overwhelming % of <poverty level. And plenty of Jews are poor so its not so easy to make the argument that poverty in Israel is racially based-though I am certain that many here believe that and will find stats to back it up.

      • Mooser on December 9, 2014, 3:20 pm

        “though I am certain that many here believe that and will find stats to back it up.”

        ‘Who are you going to believe? Me, or your anti-Zionist eyes?’

        Don’t worry, DaBakr, most of the sources for “the stats to back it up” that they “will find” are Israeli sources. So you can accuse us of not believing them! Problem solved!

  13. amigo on December 3, 2014, 9:36 am

    I have killed more Palestinians on your behalf than any previous Israeli PM.

    I have built more homes for Jews in their God given homeland than any previous Israeli PM.

    I have acquired more non Jewish land on your behalf so you can increase your strength in God given Judea /Samaria.

    I have kept foreign political interference at a an absolute minium and still managed to convince those same people to support The Jewish state and hand over , no questions asked billions and billions of their tax payers money and offer us trade deals and scientific research involving billions of Dollars.

    I have given you the longest spell of peace and security since the state began and will destroy anyone who try,s to interfere with that calm.Jews are all that count in Israel and so my efforts will be geared towards ridding Israel of non Jews.The method is still under review.

    So vote for me.I will do whatever it takes to ensure you keep your position as ubermensch in Yisrael.

  14. CigarGod on December 3, 2014, 10:54 am

    Okay, so he makes a further demonstration of support for the mob…at the same time the support for Palestinian state recognition is growing in europe…fed by the massacre energy israel gave it recently. France toppled today, adding five to the total. This ought to push others to the edge….toward the tipping point?

  15. amigo on December 3, 2014, 12:53 pm

    Another parting gift for nietanyahu.

    Belgian Pols agree to recognise Palestine.How very uncivilised of them

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.629770

  16. gracie fr on December 3, 2014, 4:22 pm

    Given the mix of personalities and ambitions, there was never much chance that Netanyahu’s government would last very long. What’s surprising is how long it did……

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/03/the-collapse-of-bibi-s-coalition-was-inevitable.html

    • ritzl on December 3, 2014, 4:46 pm

      Yeah, gracie. I never understood that. He could have had a slim majority true-believer, RW government (2-3 seats) that would have lasted forever (could well have enabled him to mete out enough disenfranchisement and death to satisfy Lieberman and his followers), but chose to go with a broader, but far shakier, Center-Right coalition.

      Shrugs…

    • DaBakr on December 4, 2014, 2:29 pm

      yes. kind of like all the predictions of Israel’s early demise. Or the demise that is just around the corner.

      As for Netanyahu? People forget that after his military career he was undeniably brilliant at the post of ‘chief-explainer[pre-hasbarist]-and-UN-ambassador]. The Iranian hostage crisis gave ted Kopple his start and from that point on-Israel had a mighty platform where Netanyahu could speak directly to the US public. (Mostly on nights when Nightline was focusing on peripheral ME issues)

      With his American flair, faint accent and polished style he really did advance israeli positions to the US public in a way they could easily understand and comprehend. The Arab block and Palestinians had no equivalent for many years. They do now and Netanyahu either fortunately or unfortunately (depending on ones pov) migrated from PR into politics. Some would say there was hardly a transition but I tend to think his talents were better suited for his former job. As is typical in politics-it brought out some of Netanyahus worst features and political survival became his mantra which was not the case with other hard-right leaders of the older generation.

      But regardless, that he has held his office for as long as he has is representative of exactly how Israeli public views its place and time in current affairs. Anyone who studies Israeli parliamentary politics can easily figure out why Netanyahu has been so successful as a PM at this point in Israeli history.

      How would Sharon have faired had he not succumb? I suspect he would have made some controversial docision that would have almost literally have blown everything up and then who knows? That his spawn is Livni tells us very little as Sharon-hate him or love him was an iconoclast and unique historical figure embellished with myth, exploits, successes and failures galore

  17. mcohen. on December 4, 2014, 2:49 am

    annie says

    “have you written them”

    I would if I could but what would i say,and why would they care anyway

    • NickJOCW on December 4, 2014, 8:34 am

      It may be a bigger job than one would think. These things come off the shelf and this one may simply not offer an edit button. A bit like buying a suit without a waistcoat. Should have thought of it before.

  18. NickJOCW on December 4, 2014, 8:50 am

    Off topic, but in addition to the Belgium vote recommending their government recognise the State of Palestine, we had the UN General Assembly calling on Israel to join the NPT. The full report of the meeting is here:

    http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/ga11593.doc.htm

    I just spent a while doing a ‘find’ on ‘Israel’ to see exactly how and with whom it voted one each of the numerous issues and found it highly illuminating, well worth the few minutes it takes. Here’s one item makes you wonder.

    Next, the Assembly adopted the draft resolution on the Prevention of an arms race in outer space (A/69/438 [L.3/Rev.1]) by a recorded vote of 178 in favour to none against, with 2 abstentions (Israel, United States)

    • lysias on December 4, 2014, 12:07 pm

      So Harper’s Canadian government split from Israel and the U.S. and actually voted for that resolution? Amazing! I guess they decided that was one issue on which they could not defy Canadian public opinion.

    • DaBakr on December 4, 2014, 2:40 pm

      @NJCW

      what you find illuminating by studying UN votes points to exactly why the US relationship with Israel is unique in the world. And it supports exactly the statement that the alliance between Israel and the US is benificial to both and is absolutely in the interest of US policy in so many ways the least amongst them being Americas continued position as the sole super-military-power on earth.

      That the only country in the world willing to support US policy unflinchingly (and many in US and Israel would argue this is not necessarily a good thing) is Israel makes a very strong case that supporting Israel is a very patriotic thing to do as a US citizen.

      I understand that that may strike many here as not only hollow but horribly misguided but its hard to argue on the surface that it doesn’t make basic sense. But being that MW is primarily a left-wing site-I can see where blindly supporting US policy would not be considered automatically ‘patriotic’. But there are plenty of ‘middle americans’ who do see things in these terms.

      So yes-looking up the UN record of votes is certainly “illuminating” and I would say to the posters here who claim to have American interests at heart and above any other foreign interest-it would behoove them (@amercn, @oldgeez, @….etc) to explain how extreme loyalty to US positions at the UN is NOT patriotic and in Americas interest.

      • annie on December 6, 2014, 3:39 pm

        the only country in the world willing to support US policy unflinchingly

        oh really. because last i heard US policy was no more settlements.

      • RoHa on December 6, 2014, 9:42 pm

        “the only country in the world willing to support US policy unflinchingly …is Israel”

        And what form does that support take?

        Certainly not military. Israel has never sent any soldiers, sailors, or airmen to support the US armed forces in any conflict.

        Certainly not economic. Israel is a parasite on the US economy.

        Diplomatic? Well, yes. Israel does support the US nearly as much as the US supports Israel. And with friends like that ….

      • Mooser on December 9, 2014, 3:41 pm

        “oh really. because last i heard US policy was no more settlements.”

        I’ve heard about something called “deconstruction” but wow, that was a veritable demolition! It probably won’t have any deterrent effect.

        DaBakr, love, just love the Zionist-Boy Scout schtick, it’s the real you. You’re always ready to clamber up the greasy flagpole, and dare anybody to set it on fire!

  19. JTMcPhee on December 4, 2014, 1:00 pm

    Immunity and impunity — a great combination. Makes you wonder whether Yahoo will respond to the UN General Assembly’s call for the IDF to “mothball” all those Samson-option nuclear weapons, that Israel’s military doesn’t have, with the middle finger of his left hand or of his right hand. Once he has cemented his grasp on the short hairs of Planet ZionIsrael… One wonders, too, if the Israelites, no doubt knowing the content of all the US war plans and policy vaults from inveterate espionage, have in the Israelite version of the old Single Integrated Operating Plan (the US nuclear war plans) a list of targets that include the US naval “assets” (actually mostly liabilities) in the Mideast, and various US or US-used “leased” bases in the area. Along with all those hated “Arab” capitols and stuff.

    What’s the opposite of “freier?” Is that the exalted state that the Likudians and other “abjectly insane” think they have achieved?

  20. wondering jew on December 4, 2014, 10:14 pm

    Early elections are good. It means that we (Israel) are about to elect Bibi for the last time. The sooner his last term in office begins the sooner it will end.

    • amigo on December 5, 2014, 6:58 am

      Early elections are good. It means that we (Israel) are about to elect Bibi for the last time. ” yf

      And all this time I thought “you” were an American.

      • Kay24 on December 5, 2014, 7:41 am

        Lol. Eventually they slip up. “We” always show devotion and protection for that alien nation.

      • ckg on December 5, 2014, 10:00 am

        YF wrote on Nov 26, “i was fortunate enough to be born in the us. my citizenship cannot be revoked.”

      • ckg on December 5, 2014, 10:05 am

        In Israel, some folks get to have two citizenships, while others have none.

      • W.Jones on December 6, 2014, 2:33 pm

        Right. East Jerusalem is considered by the SOI to be in the SOI, but the SOI does not give Palestinian East Jerusalemites automatic citizenship.

      • wondering jew on December 6, 2014, 3:24 pm

        i have dual citizenship.

      • wondering jew on December 6, 2014, 3:26 pm

        if you object to dual citizenship write your congressman to change the law. I assume the law that would be passed in the US would allow for those with dual citizenship to choose without being strung up in the village square by a bunch of rubes with pitchforks.

      • Mooser on December 6, 2014, 10:45 pm

        “being strung up in the village square by a bunch of rubes with pitchforks.”

        And a balmalocha like Yonah, who is always “properly attired” knows from rubes
        He is the epitome of urban sophistication, a equally fine judge of hoseflesh, vintage whines, and fine cigars.

        A regular Gary Cant!

      • amigo on December 7, 2014, 3:36 pm

        To yonah below.

        “without being strung up in the village square by a bunch of rubes with pitchforks.”yonah.

        Yonah , what is the “Rube” root of a Pitchfork.

        Try not to fork up this time.

        Incidentally , you seem quite pensive today.

      • Mooser on December 9, 2014, 3:46 pm

        “Incidentally , you seem quite pensive today.”

        You are right, “pensive” is the Mott’s Juice in this case. Like he got a bad cranberry or something.

  21. amigo on December 5, 2014, 6:56 am

    The charade continues.

    “Until the dissolution bill passes its second and third readings in the plenum and the current Knesset is actually dissolved, Netanyahu can still cobble together a new coalition and continue governing the country until elections are required in three years’ time.

    He seems to be trying to do precisely that.”Haaretz

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.630174 ( no pay wall).

    • W.Jones on December 6, 2014, 2:46 pm

      So first he will try to do a coalition. Then if the right won’t “coalesce” with him, then he has to call elections.

      If he has to call elections early, he is solidly training behind in the polls after at least two other politicians, one of whom is an ex-finance minister, I think. Are those winning contenders from right wing parties?

  22. Moto on December 6, 2014, 3:49 am

    Netanyahu is clearly insane.

  23. Mooser on December 6, 2014, 10:50 pm

    “i have dual citizenship.”

    Sure, Yonah. Like Al Capone had dual-citizenship in Cicero and Chicago Ill. Whats a matter, did you leave some unpaid parking tickets back in occupied territory? What’s keeping you from your Promised Lot, in a country which knows what to do with US Navy ships which don’t obey orders!

  24. amigo on December 7, 2014, 3:26 pm

    “Abbas, he stressed, “is in a political pact with those who celebrated the Har Nof attack [in which five Jews were killed in a synagogue.]” nietanyahu

    Seems as if Rabbi bibi is now doing conversions.I wonder if the Bedouin policeman,s family knows their son became a Jew.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.630466

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