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The following press release was issued by the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation yesterday:

May 4, 2015 – Palestinian rights activists are celebrating today’s announcement by Lauryn Hill that she is canceling her concert in Tel Aviv, which was scheduled for May 7.

The singer posted the announcement on her Facebook page Monday, writing: “It is very important to me that my presence or message not be misconstrued, or a source of alienation to either my Israeli or my Palestinian fans. For this reason, we have decided to cancel the upcoming performance in Israel, and seek a different strategy to bring my music to ALL of my fans in the region. May healing, equanimity, and the openness necessary for lasting resolution and reconciliation come to this region and its people.”

Haidar Eid, a Gaza-based steering committee member with the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, said: “We’re delighted that Lauryn Hill has decided not to perform in Israel. A growing number of mainstream artists are catching up with public opinion and now understand that playing in Israel helps it to whitewash its colonial oppression of Palestinians. Israeli promoters are finding it increasingly difficult to book big names to perform in Israel.”

Hill’s cancellation comes after an international campaign urging her to respect the Palestinian call to boycott Israel. In response to a direct appeal to Lauryn Hill from Palestinian activists, thousands of Lauryn’s fans took action: more than 11,000 people asked Hill to cancel via petition; activists made creative songs and videos; and organizers collected and shared a series of letters from fans encouraging Lauryn to boycott.

“The New York Times and other outlets have documented how Israel has prioritized art and culture as a means of branding to whitewash its human rights violations, so an artist cancellation like this is a big step in the way of responding,” said Andrew Kadi, co-chair of the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation.

“It is incredible to see Ms. Hill respond so positively to our grassroots campaign. Many engaged with social justice movements in the United States adore her music, since she speaks powerfully to oppression and injustice.” said Sasha Gelzin of the US Campaign for the Academic & Cultural Boycott of Israel. “When connections are being made by people in the streets between struggles here and in Palestine, like in Baltimore and Ferguson, we are so grateful that Ms. Hill is making those connections too.”

Following the lead of 171 Palestinian civil society organizations that issued a call in 2005, people of conscience around the world have embraced a campaign of boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) against Israel over its discriminatory regime and abuses of Palestinian human rights. Lauryn Hill joins many other well-known artists, writers and musicians that have cancelled or pledged to refrain from performing in Israel until Israel respects Palestinian rights, including Talib Kweli, Gil Scott-Heron, Elvis Costello, Sinead O’Connor, and many others.

Remi Kanazi, a Palestinian performance artist based in the United States, said:  “As a Palestinian artist who has immense respect for Ms. Lauryn Hill’s work inside and outside of the recording studio, it is thrilling to hear that she canceled her concert in Israel. As Israel’s policies of occupation, dispossession, and discrimination intensify, it is even more crucial for artists to refuse to do business with a state that uses concerts, plays, and ballets to whitewash its crimes against Palestinians.”

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  1. Kathleen on May 5, 2015, 9:45 am

    Yes!

  2. just on May 5, 2015, 9:45 am

    Hurrah for Lauryn. As I said yesterday, her statement was both eloquent and elegant.

    Additionally, BTS’ damning report yesterday adds more evidence to the gross and rampant criminality of Israel, and should give every artist and human being great pause wrt even visiting Israel, much less performing there.

    BDS! Thanks, MW.

  3. Abdul-Rahman on May 5, 2015, 12:55 pm

    With the racist anti-African atmosphere growing by the day in Israel, both against Ethiopians and African asylum seekers, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some racist, anti-black venom being spewed forth from many Israelis on Facebook, etc. towards Ms. Hill.

  4. hophmi on May 5, 2015, 1:05 pm

    “It is very important to me that my presence or message not be misconstrued, or a source of alienation to either my Israeli or my Palestinian fans.”

    Guess the BDS movement is going to purposely misconstrue it.

  5. niass2 on May 5, 2015, 1:28 pm

    That’s great, I always liked her music, and she doesn’t seem fit for Israel, at least until they make everyone equal and stop their crazy behavior. BTW, what is BDS? Is that an Israeli music industry magazine?

    • just on May 5, 2015, 2:49 pm

      “In 2005, Palestinian civil society issued a call for a campaign of boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it complies with international law and Palestinian rights. A truly global movement against Israeli Apartheid is rapidly emerging in response to this call.”

      Lots of info here: http://www.bdsmovement.net/

      Welcome to MW and to BDS! 1S1P1V!

  6. echinococcus on May 5, 2015, 4:36 pm

    Just a little nitpicking: that a decent human being would refuse performing in Israel is the proper and expected thing; anything but “incredible”.

    • Marnie on May 6, 2015, 2:36 am

      Echinococcus – exactly right. She made the only decision that was proper for her to make, but I applaud her to encourage her and others to stay the course and do not play in the zionist state until it’s no longer a zionist, nationalistic nightmare but a place for ALL PEOPLE.

      For the time being though, the zionists will have to be content with the septuagenarian stylings of the Rolling Stones.

  7. tommy on May 5, 2015, 9:58 pm

    Ms. Hill has the vocab.

  8. just on May 6, 2015, 8:04 am

    Another thing that artists may want to consider before booking a gig in or a flight to Israel :

    “Police brutality is just the zeitgeist – the real threat is Israeli xenophobia

    It’s nice to hear that the Ethiopians want to integrate into Israeli society, but into which society exactly do they want to integrate? The one that holds its nose in disgust

    It was hard to fall asleep on Sunday night. The police helicopters circled incessantly above Rabin Square. The echoes of the explosions of stun grenades penetrated the windows of the quiet homes of old, white north Tel Aviv, and on television they skipped the relaxing programs scheduled for that evening in order to show thousands of blacks – unkempt, some shirtless, real wild men – clashing with our policemen.

    In other places, Ethiopia for example, they would already have sent in two fighter planes and put an end to it. What do you mean by blocking the main artery of the Jewish state? Seizing control of intersections and causing huge traffic jams? If they want to be like the Arabs who blocked Wadi Ara during the second intifada, then they should be treated the same way, a few dead and then there will be quiet. But that’s exactly the problem. Those Ethiopians aren’t Arabs, but not really Jews either. In other words, same religion, different race. They serve in the army, the police force, the Border Police, but they’re black. They may also be contaminated by disease. Three years ago, at the huge Ethiopian demonstration against racism in Kiryat Malachi, the city residents explained that they “wouldn’t surrender” to the Ethiopians. “Enough with the pretended innocence, let’s see all the bleeding hearts live next door to Ethiopians who ferment their dough with beer yeast and really stink up the whole building (and an eight-story building yet) – try it and then talk.

    “Before the holidays they also cook in the lobby of the building, and then you really can’t open a window. The value of the apartments declines, not because of hatred of color or race, but because of what living with the community means. Personally I believe that with the young people it will be different, for example I’d be happy to live next door to an Ethiopian policeman or army officer, the problem is that sometimes one family brings the entire community with it and then it’s really hard.” This was written by an Internet surfer, a city resident, in response to an article posted on Mako.

    “Besides, it’s a known fact that the value of the apartments declines by 30 percent when new immigrants from Ethiopia come in. We’re not talking about the young people but about the older ones, who preserve norms of food and behavior from Ethiopian villages, and it’s hard to live next to them,” added another woman who identified herself as “a neighbor of Ethiopians.”…

    …Too conveniently the problem of the Ethiopians in Israel has become a “police” problem. If only the police would lower the level of violence towards members of the community, if they would make policemen who beat Ethiopians stand trial and appoint an Ethiopian deputy commissioner, the Ethiopians would be warmly welcomed at discotheques and swimming pools, the number of Ethiopian prisoners would shrink miraculously (in the Ofer Prison juvenile detention wing, about 40 percent of the prisoners are of Ethiopian origin) and the schools would be happy to accept the students.

    Nonsense. The behavior of the policemen reflects the zeitgeist. The real and dangerous threat is the disgust and fear that certain population groups arouse in other groups. The “self-evident” rift between Jews and Arabs is only one fault line that defines the Jewish state. The branches of this fault line separate black Jews from white Jews, and darker-skinned Jews, often Mizrahim, from those who are not as dark. The law is ostensibly equal for all, but the consciousness is an apartheid consciousness. Compared to the Ethiopians, even Ashkenazim and Mizrahim look like real brothers.

    It’s nice to hear that the Ethiopians want to integrate into Israeli society, but into which society exactly do they want to integrate? The one that holds its nose in disgust? The one that is horrified by black skin? Integrated colors, my black friends, can be found only in paving stones.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.655107?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  9. eusebio on May 6, 2015, 8:59 am

    good work human right in Palestine

  10. just on May 6, 2015, 10:02 am

    “After Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, more anti-police brutality protests planned around country

    Facebook post urges Ethiopian community to demonstrate outside local authorities on Saturday night.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.655207

    I wonder how the ‘tourism industry’ in Israel will fare. Will Bloomberg take a ride to BG again?

  11. just on May 6, 2015, 2:14 pm

    “Israeli soccer association to meet FIFA head in effort to avert suspension

    Organization will urge Blatter to use his influence to thwart the Palestinian proposal to ban Israel from the world body.

    REUTERS – Israel’s top soccer administrators will meet FIFA President Sepp Blatter in Zurich on Wednesday in a late bid to avert a vote called by the Palestinians to suspend Israel from the world body.

    An official from Israel’s FA told Reuters that chairman Ofer Eini and chief executive Rotem Kamer would urge Blatter to use his influence to strike the Palestinian FA’s (PFA) proposal from the FIFA Congress agenda on May 29.

    If FIFA were to suspend Israel, it would bar all its teams and clubs from competing in international events, including World Cup qualifications. Although not uncommon, the world body has suspended nations mainly when a government has intervened in its soccer association’s affairs.

    Israel is currently competing in the Euro 2016 qualifying event and its clubs will join European cup tournaments in July, when Israel is also due to host the European women’s under-19 championships. Suspension could force the event to be moved.

    For the Palestinian proposal to pass, it would need the approval of 75 percent of FIFA’s 209 member associations.”…

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/1.655218?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Please suspend them.

    • CigarGod on May 6, 2015, 2:50 pm

      Yes!
      Murderous, apartheid regimes need to be isolated.

    • Susan A on May 6, 2015, 8:48 pm

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  12. Susan A on May 6, 2015, 9:09 pm

    Above is a link about a former South African minister and prominent businessman who is flying to Palestine to meet Jibril and to hear about the problems that Palestinian sportspeople face, which I received today. It seems its hotting up on both sides. I hope to be in Zurich for the upcoming FIFA AGM

  13. Susan A on May 6, 2015, 9:10 pm

    Apologies. It looks as though my previous attempt at posting worked! I suggest we delete their bank details!

    • just on May 6, 2015, 9:19 pm

      Thanks for your posts, Susan A.

      They need to be suspended at the very least.

      (I would prefer that they be expelled, of course.)

  14. miriam6 on May 6, 2015, 10:18 pm

    The pro BDS spin that Mondoweiss is clumsily attempting to attach to Hill’s decision does not match Hill’s intentions which were not about boycotting Israel but about her frustration about not being able to set up a gig in the OPT as WELL as a gig in Israel

    The singer posted the announcement on her Facebook page Monday, writing: “It is very important to me that my presence or message not be misconstrued, or a source of alienation to either my Israeli or my Palestinian fans. For this reason, we have decided to cancel the upcoming performance in Israel, and seek a different strategy to bring my music to ALL of my fans in the region. May healing, equanimity, and the openness necessary for lasting resolution and reconciliation come to this region and its people.”

    Can’t you people READ??

    • just on May 6, 2015, 10:23 pm

      Why, yes we can. Thanks for asking. Ms. Hill was elegant and eloquent. She was very diplomatic, too. I can understand if that is unfamiliar to you.

      Can you spell Illegal and Inhuman Occupation?

    • echinococcus on May 6, 2015, 11:27 pm

      Yes, thank you, in your own post I read that she ripped the mask and exposed the Apartheid state where she is not allowed to play to the Slaves and Helots. Can you read what you quote?

    • oldgeezer on May 7, 2015, 12:20 am

      BDS wanted her to cancel.
      Israel didn’t want her to.

      BDS +1
      Israel 0

      Nowhere does she say what you have inferred.

      Mirian -2

      • miriam6 on May 7, 2015, 4:04 pm

        B.D.S FAIL yet again

        Hill said:

        “It is very important to me that my presence or message not be misconstrued, or a source of alienation to either my Israeli or my Palestinian fans.

        So Hill asked that her message NOT be misconstrued which is exactly what you people are doing by twisting her words!
        You people have no respect whatsoever for what she actually said..

        to bring my music to ALL of my fans in the region. May healing, equanimity, and the openness necessary for lasting resolution and reconciliation come to this region and its people.”

        Nowhere did she mention BDS / ‘apartheid’ etc. .
        Instead she elaborated on her desire to reach BOTH Israelis and Palestinians
        Unlike some commenters here, Hill respects and recognises the humanity of BOTH Israelis and Palestinians.

      • Mooser on May 8, 2015, 5:19 pm

        “Unlike some commenters here, Hill respects and recognises the humanity of BOTH Israelis and Palestinians.”

        “miriam6” we have begged, on bended knee, the “some commenters here” to refrain from shooting Israelis, staging aerial attacks and invasions of Israel, or stealing Israel’s land and houses, and/or obliterating Israeli villages and towns.
        But unfortunately, since they don’t recognize the humanity of Israelis, they will keep on doing it.
        We have been unsuccessful, (yes, it must be admitted, for our own good!) at convincing “some commenters here” to confine their feelings about Israeli humanity to print, and the price the Israelis pay for it is much too high. We will make strenuous efforts to stop these attacks and crimes, unless the ICC decides to prosecute “some commenters here” for crimes against humanity.
        At that point it’s out of Mondo’s hands, and the guilty “some commenters here” must pay the price! And I, myself, for what it’s worth, will raise a big stink if any of your “I-told-you-so” pasts get moderated!

        I realize it the situation is especially galling to you, “miriam6”, as well as tragic, when contrasted against Israel’s record of forbearance, restraint, and strict egalitarianism towards the Palestinians.

    • Marnie on May 7, 2015, 9:32 am

      Yes actually, some better than others (hint).

      • Stephen Shenfield on May 7, 2015, 7:08 pm

        We don’t know exactly what Hill may have in mind. Perhaps a concert in Jaffa under the aegis of Ta’ayush? I vaguely recall that others have pulled off something of that sort. Now, however, they would probably not allow her into the country if that were her intention.

    • amigo on May 8, 2015, 7:31 am

      “The pro BDS spin that Mondoweiss is clumsily attempting to attach to Hill’s decision does not match Hill’s intentions which were not about boycotting Israel but about her frustration about not being able to set up a gig in the OPT as WELL as a gig in Israel ” MI-6

      “Ms. Hill, the former Fugees singer, was scheduled to play at Rishon Lezion, the country’s largest open-air venue, on Thursday, May 7. She said she wanted to organize a similar show in the West Bank also, but that logistics “proved to be a challenge.”

      Cultural boycotts annoy you , eh miriam.

      “We are two students, both studying musicology at the Université Paris 8 and in the CRR 93 at Aubervilliers and the CRD at Gennevilliers [translator’s note : all located in the suburbs north of Paris]. After taking our baccalauréat exams at the end of high school, we left in September 2013 to spend a year living in Palestine. We gave and attended music classes (violin and flute) at the Edward Said National Conservatory in Ramallah and helped to create a music school in Jericho. This year we had decided to go back during our recent Easter break to see our friends again and to return to the places where we had spent time the previous year.

      On Sunday April 19, we arrived at 2:30 AM at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv. At the customs desk we stated the purpose of our visit ; but when the officer heard the word « Ramallah » we were sent straight to a small room where other people were waiting for us. We were immediately asked to write our telephone numbers and e-mail addresses.

      Read on Miriam and learn how Israel boycotts Palestinian cultural activity.Your beloved light unto the nation,s contribution to living in harmony.

      http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/airport-french-students

      • just on May 8, 2015, 8:49 am

        Most excellent post, amigo.

        It should be crystal clear to folks, but it’s not.

      • miriam6 on May 8, 2015, 1:06 pm

        Amigo @

        Your lack of logic and hypocrisy is quite stunning.

        You disapprove of cultural boycotts imposed by Israel on Palestinians but then go on to applaud the BDS cultural boycott of Israel / Israelis?!

        Shame on you!

        Unlike you I am against ALL cultural boycotts.

        Cultural boycotts only serve to create divisions between people rather than freedom of all people to associate with others.
        You and other BDS proponents seem intent on preventing freedom of communication between Israelis and Palestinians

        YOU wish to curtail or block entirely the very freedom of association / communication between Israelis and Palestinians that could lead to a solution to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians

        Shame on you!

        Another BDS fail!

      • annie on May 8, 2015, 1:23 pm

        You disapprove of cultural boycotts imposed by Israel on Palestinians but then go on to applaud the BDS cultural boycott of Israel / Israelis?!

        this is disingenuous miriam. you know quite well that bds is non violent resistance to a decades long imposed military occupation controlling who can and cannot enter palestine. what amigo referenced as “Israel boycotts Palestinian cultural activity.” is not a resistance movement nor is it non violent. the 2 cannot be compared.

        your comment and accusation of hypocrisy applies a stunning false equivalence. it’s your logic that’s deeply flawed, not amigos.

      • just on May 8, 2015, 1:20 pm

        “You disapprove of cultural boycotts imposed by Israel on Palestinians but then go on to applaud the BDS cultural boycott of Israel / Israelis?!”

        So where were you when the article about the treatment that Philomene Constant and Bastien Anthoine was published here? Don’t you see that it is because of Israel’s apartheid policies, lack of democracy, and its treatment of all things Palestine/Palestinian and those that support the people of Palestine that makes BDS so very crucial? It’s Israel that has brought forth the need for all good and decent humans all over the world to participate in and embrace BDS.

        Any failure and shame belongs to you and those like you, miriam6. jmo.

      • adele on May 8, 2015, 1:34 pm

        Miriam: “YOU wish to curtail or block entirely the very freedom of association / communication between Israelis and Palestinians that could lead to a solution to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians”

        I hear that there is lots of conflict resolution and negotiations going on at the Israeli-manned checkpoints and in the Israeli torture chambers. We’ll keep hoping that these “freedom of association / communication” encounters between Israelis and Palestinians will prove fruitful in ending the “conflict”.

        In Miriam’s world, Oppression is just another word for Peace & Love.

    • Mayhem on May 9, 2015, 8:24 pm

      @Miriam, this trumpeting of a fake victory – it’s the name of the dishonest game that is BDS. Any excuse to wave the anti-Israel BDS flag.
      Supporters of BDS movement claim that it seeks to advance human rights and justice for disenfranchised Palestinians without harming the rights of Israelis. MW stalwarts can refer back to this Mondoweiss interview that Haider Eid, a Palestinian academic based in Gaza and leading BDS advocate, delivered in December 2013.
      “Eid openly admitted that he favoured the elimination of the existing State of Israel, and its replacement by an Arab majority state of Greater Palestine. He termed the alternative proposal for a two-state solution a “racist solution” because it included – wrongly, in his opinion – a recognition of the national rights of Israeli Jews.
      He added that Jews were a religious group, not a nation. For Eid, ideals such as human rights and democracy only deserved to be applied to Palestinians, but not to Israelis.
      Similar nationalist zealotry was espoused by the BDS movement’s leading spokesperson, Omar Barghouti, in a recent issue of Settler Colonial Studies.
      As with many BDS advocates, Barghouti’s principal anger is directed not at Israeli and Jewish hawks who deny the legitimacy of Palestinian aspirations, but rather at left-wing Zionists and others who support a two-state solution that recognizes both Israeli and Palestinian national rights. Like Eid, Barghouti fondly cites ideals such as freedom, justice and equality, but he only supports their application to Palestinians not Israelis.
      The complete disinterest of Eid and Barghouti in any strategies to progress Israeli-Palestinian peace and reconciliation arguably takes us back to the rejectionist views of much earlier times. The famous Arab summit held at Khartoum in August 1967 proudly trumpeted: “No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel.” Similarly, as we argue in our new book, Boycotting Israel is Wrong: The Progressive Path to Peace between Palestinians and Israelis, the BDS movement rejects any dialogue or normalisation of relations with Israel, as well as any prospect of a win-win solution for both Palestinians and Israelis. Rather, Palestinian rights and interests can only be advanced according to the BDS movement by ending Israeli statehood.”
      Refer article about new book slamming BDS.

      • just on May 10, 2015, 7:47 am

        Ooh, here you are trumpeting your anti- BDS book, Mayhem! Marvelous. Did you also help to make the fairy tale film that Godshall saw?

        “In Tel Aviv, the group was taken to the Independence Hall museum on Rothschild Boulevard, where the State of Israel was declared in 1948. They were shown a film on the founding of Israel, “which showed how God brought the Jews to the desert and they made it bloom,” Godshall says.”

        It would appear that BDS is getting under your thin skin if you and your compadre devoted your time and energy to writing a book “slamming BDS”. Well, it’s good that you aren’t actively serving in the IOF anyway.

        By the way, there’s nothing “dishonest” about BDS.

      • Mayhem on May 10, 2015, 8:16 am

        @just, most interesting are remarks made by Norman Finkelstein in 2012, who,like you, has made it his business to pursue hatred for Israel. In 2012, however, he declared that the BDS movement is a “hypocritical, dishonest cult like the Munchkin cult in Oz” that tries to pose as human rights activists while in reality their goal is to destroy Israel.

        “I’m getting a little bit exasperated,” he said, “with what I think is a whole lot of nonsense. I’m not going to tolerate silliness, childishness and a lot of leftist posturing. I loathe the disingenuousness. We will never hear the solidarity movement [back a] two-state solution.”

        He also declared that the BDS movement has enjoyed few successes, and that, as in a cult, the leaders pretend they are hugely successful even though the general public rejects their extreme views. Because there have been few victories for the BDS movement, at every opportunity BDS supporters are dishonestly proclaiming triumphs.

      • CigarGod on May 10, 2015, 9:31 am

        Mayhem,
        Not all that falls from his lips are pearls.
        you make a weak defense of apartheid.

      • just on May 10, 2015, 9:04 am

        “most interesting are remarks made by Norman Finkelstein in 2012, who,like you, has made it his business to pursue hatred for Israel.”

        Thanks for the honor of being lumped together with Professor Finkelstein, though you have wrongly accused us by saying that it is our “business to pursue hatred for Israel.” I disagree with him on BDS.

        Anything else, Mayhem? Oh, here’s your new Justice Minister:

        “WATCH: Ayelet Shaked says boycotting Israel should be illegal
        In an exclusive pre-election interview with Haaretz, incoming justice minister explained why BDS is ‘the new anti-Semitism’ and why she opposes the two-state solution.”

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/1.655727

      • Mayhem on May 10, 2015, 7:44 pm

        BDS targets Jews explicitly and therefore is anti-semitic. It is definitely reasonable policy of a Justice Minister to be aiming to outlaw discrimination that promotes anti-semitism.
        Jewish students on university campuses will be compelled to defy BDS boycotts in order to obtain kosher products of which much comes from Israel.
        Jews will have to face the stigma and intimidation that comes from being associated with Zionism, which is central and fundamental to the beliefs of the large majority of Jews.
        If BDS catches on Jewish societies will be pressured to cut ties with Israel.
        The trenchant view of Jews as a fifth column, disloyal and dishonest is already spreading. Open anti-Semitism more and more brazenly rears its head across Europe, its proponents bothering less and less to make any distinction between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.
        Jews cannot walk the streets of France anymore wearing a kippah. BDS exacerbates the political and social circumstances that help to foster insidious anti-semitic views, that are frequently disguised so as to not be so blatant.
        Woody Allen once said: ““I do feel there are many people that disguise their negative feelings toward Jews, disguise it as anti-Israel criticism, political criticism, when in fact what they really mean is that they don’t like Jews.”

      • CigarGod on May 11, 2015, 8:23 am

        Woody also said:
        “I used to be of the Jewish persuasion, but then I converted to narcissism.”

      • RoHa on May 11, 2015, 12:06 am

        “BDS targets Jews explicitly ”

        No, it targets Israelis and their supporters.

        “Jews will have to face the stigma and intimidation that comes from being associated with Zionism, which is central and fundamental to the beliefs of the large majority of Jews.”

        Then they should change their beliefs and stop being associated with Zionism. Those who support wrongdoing have only themselves to blame for any social stigma.

        “The trenchant view of Jews as a fifth column, disloyal and dishonest is already spreading. ”

        Then Jews should stop acting like Israeli agents.

        “Woody Allen once said:…”

        Celebrities – even talented ones – often say stupid things.

      • miriam6 on May 13, 2015, 1:56 am

        [email protected]

        Indeed, you are right.
        It reeks of sheer desperation on the part of the BDS mob that they seek to claim this as a ‘victory’
        Hill’s statement made no mention of BDS nor did she voice support of BDS
        Indeed, she voiced support for reconciliation and equanimity over support of BDS style boycotts

        The singer posted the announcement on her Facebook page Monday, writing: “It is very important to me that my presence or message not be misconstrued, or a source of alienation to either my Israeli or my Palestinian fans. For this reason, we have decided to cancel the upcoming performance in Israel, and seek a different strategy to bring my music to ALL of my fans in the region. May healing, equanimity, and the openness necessary for lasting resolution and reconciliation come to this region and its people.”

        The BDS mob and their supporters here are merely clutching at straws.
        A spectacle that would be funny if it were not so pathetic ..

      • CigarGod on May 13, 2015, 10:16 am

        Let’s do a short time line of the facts. Lauryn Hill schedules concert. BDS lobbies her to cancel the concert. Lauryn Hill cancels the concert. BDS does Victory Dance.

        Miriam wants us to focus on possible ambiguities in the diplomatic style of the cancellation statement instead of the actual cancellation itself.

        Pathetically, Miriam continues to beat a dead horse.

        The End.

      • just on May 13, 2015, 10:21 am

        miriam6 is grumpy. and wrong.

        +1, CG!

    • Marnie on May 14, 2015, 3:02 am

      Ginger/Miriam6 – you’ve spend a lot of time bitching about BDS either not working, or being a violent organization, which you are wrong on both counts.

      The effectiveness of grassroots movements are not only measured by their success, but how loudly it’s opponents shriek that it doesn’t work and at the same time it should be stopped and/or likened to a hate crime. The zionist state is not going to change for the better, as proven by the last election. Israeli society is more right wing, racist and violent than ever before so has to be stopped by the only nonviolent option that’s left – BDS. If you don’t like it, tough shit. You and your compatriots will hopefully very soon be ostracized by the civilized world and shut down.

      • miriam6 on May 14, 2015, 12:22 pm

        [email protected]

        Let’s do a short time line of the facts. Lauryn Hill schedules concert. BDS lobbies her to cancel the concert. Lauryn Hill cancels the concert. BDS does Victory Dance.

        At last!
        One of you have admitted the truth !
        Hill was BULLLIED into her decision rather than seeing the censorious BDS ‘light’!
        That you count bullying entertainers into toeing the craven anti Israel line does not speak well of BDS..

        BDS is the dead horse

        The true facts are that Hill, like other artists were fully prepared on playing gigs in Israel in the first place before the sly BDS bullies intervened ..

        Stop whitewashing BDS as a arbiter of saintliness on the I /P issue
        BDS is in its intent and membership is nothing but a mob of sanctimonious reactionary bullies..

        You people should check out Jello Biafra’s account of the aggressive way the BDS ers went after him over the issue of playing gigs in Israel
        Deeply unpleasant reading detailing the relentless bullying of Biafra a thoroughly decent man by BDS..

        http://www.alternativetentacles.com/page.php?page=jello_israel

      • CigarGod on May 14, 2015, 4:10 pm

        Lobby = Bully?

        I get you now.
        You have no interest in constructive discourse…as evidenced by your dishonest definition.

      • talknic on May 14, 2015, 4:01 pm

        @ miriam6 “You people should check out Jello Biafra’s account of the aggressive way the BDS ers went after him over the issue of playing gigs in Israel
        Deeply unpleasant reading detailing the relentless bullying of Biafra a thoroughly decent man by BDS.”

        I took your advice and read thru an extremely long article hoping to find something that verified your bullying claim. http://www.alternativetentacles.com/page.php?page=jello_israel

        Could you please quote the passages…..thx

        BTW Why are so many of Israel’s apologists such blatant liars?

      • just on May 14, 2015, 4:14 pm

        @ talknic

        “BTW Why are so many of Israel’s apologists such blatant liars?”

        Well, it starts with their reinvented and mythic history in Palestine, and their denial of the actual history of Palestine and the realities involved with that. When you add the “Ziocaine Syndrome” to it, well… it can be habit- forming.

        abracadabra! presto chango!

      • Marnie on May 14, 2015, 4:59 pm

        So predictable. You bully because you can’t achieve anything on the basis of its merits, because it has none. Lauren Hill wasn’t bullied; I don’t believe she can be. But because it didn’t go down to your liking, because she made the only choice a person of conscience can make, you now insist she was bullied into canceling. It’s over already – besides, you got the super fab treat of Robbie Williams, who proved he has absolutely no conscience at all and has no problem at all playing “Sun City” being the poster boy for UNICEF’s Children in Danger! Apparently he has no concept of “irony” or he’s as dumb as a sack of hammers. Stop bitching! ISRAEL – Zero. LAUREN HILL -Infinity. You – need help.You’ve had a week on this story and are still insisting you are right. You are wrong, always, always wrong.

      • Kris on May 14, 2015, 8:01 pm

        @miriam6: “You people should check out Jello Biafra’s account of the aggressive way the BDS ers went after him over the issue of playing gigs in Israel Deeply unpleasant reading detailing the relentless bullying of Biafra a thoroughly decent man by BDS.” Did you even look at the article to which you linked? Biafra talks at length about how disgusted he is by Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. Take a few minutes to read the article to which you linked!

        Maybe you were thinking about this:

        Ari Shavit: “The Jewish students at UCLA will never forget the night of February 25, 2014. For 13 nightmarish hours, they were confronted with the hateful words and wild eyes of hundreds of fellow students — supporters of the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement — who alleged that defending Israel was tantamount to defending racism, genocide and infanticide. For one long night they experienced a debate on boycotting Israel that turned into a horror show of persecution.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/kris#sthash.qDzu5oC8.dpuf

        A horror show of persecution!!!!! For 13 nightmarish hours, these innocent Zionist Jewish college students were confronted with the hateful words and wild eyes of fellow students who were criticizing Israel!!!!!

        Awful!

  15. DoubleStandard on May 7, 2015, 12:59 am

    How many artists have actually boycotted Israel? How many very very prominent ones (Lady Gaga level)? What do you guys think of BDS’ crushing defeat at Bowdoin?

    Maybe you should think big picture before getting off to this news.

    • Qualtrough on May 7, 2015, 6:04 am

      DoubleStandard (so aptly named) — If BDS is no big deal why are you here commenting about it all the time? Why would anyone spend their time railing against something they thought was doomed to failure?

    • Marnie on May 7, 2015, 9:29 am

      BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      “How many artists have actually boycotted Israel?”

      Easy enough to find out your own self. Of course it’s easier for someone else to research info for you to dispute. Not playing that. So you don’t like the answer to your question and follow up with this lovely gem “How many very very prominent ones (Lady Gaga level)? Seriously DS; I’m guessing instead of adding a third “very” to your question you settled for (Lady Gaga level). Really, she has a level? I was under the impression she’s lost whatever she had. Her 15 minutes are up I guess. Just like yours. What a tool!

      You remind me of N’Yahoo DS. As soon as an accord is reached, he makes another demand.

      • just on May 7, 2015, 9:46 am

        +1, Marnie!

      • DoubleStandard on May 7, 2015, 3:31 pm

        It was a rhetorical question. The answer is very, very few. Artists play in Israel all the time. Quite frankly, we wouldn’t want any artist who wouldn’t want to play here because of the politics. He/she can take their talents to another country that commands their respect…say Qatar or Lebanon? It wouldn’t surprise me if Roger Waters started offering free tickets to his latest gig (if he has any at this point?) to members of ISIS.

        Now, I wouldn’t expect you to use your sechel given your fanatic enthusiasm for this site, but the issue isn’t how good an artist Lady Gaga is or how popular she is right now. The point is that you haven’t gotten a major music phenomenon to cancel a performance in Israel.

        Only old and bored artists whose time has long past and now pat themselves on the back by diligently servicing anti-Semites and anti-West haters.

    • catalan on May 7, 2015, 9:43 am

      “I was under the impression she’s lost whatever she had. Her 15 minutes are up I guess. -” Marnie
      The cruelty of the mediocre towards the brilliant. Kind of sums up so many comments here.

      • Marnie on May 7, 2015, 12:43 pm

        Yes. MW must have some kind of magnetic field that grabs the zionuts and holds them here, captive and helpless, forced to read the mediocre cruelty towards the brilliant. If only you could escape, get out and go to aother website!

      • echinococcus on May 7, 2015, 1:48 pm

        Marnie,

        It’s not the magnetic field; it’s the fact that it offers one more soapbox for genocidal propaganda, but this time to be listened to from inside a Palestinian-supporting site. The target is exclusively the clueless reader and browser who happens to drop by because heshe is troubled about the wide media support to Zionism, not the regular reader. This free soapbox must be extremely valuable to the Zionists.

      • Mooser on May 7, 2015, 11:57 pm

        “The cruelty of the mediocre towards the brilliant. Kind of sums up so many comments here.”

        Poor misunderstood “catalan”! But we’ll be sorry one day, won’t we, “catalan”? If we keep it up, you might hide your brilliant light under a bustle. Serve us right!

        Listen, everybody: Leave “catalan” alooooone! Right now!

      • amigo on May 8, 2015, 7:41 am

        “This free soapbox must be extremely valuable to the Zionists. “echinococcus

        Indeed, can you imagine how much revenue MW would lose if folks like catalan and his cohorts canceled their generous donations.

        The management must be terrified at the thought of losing such generous donors.

      • amigo on May 8, 2015, 7:51 am

        “The cruelty of the mediocre towards the brilliant. Kind of sums up so many comments here “catalan.

        This is what you call “the brilliant.

        “It seems the Poker Face singer has run out of wacky outfits ideas and is opting to just go naked instead…”

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lady-gaga-strips-naked-stage-2646833

      • catalan on May 8, 2015, 11:33 am

        “revenue MW would lose if folks like catalan and his cohorts canceled their generous donations.” Amigo –
        Hey friend,
        I actually like you. I think you are funny and a good person. I am also flattered that I have “cohorts”, that’s a first.
        As far as donations, hey, you never know where dough can come from. I would consider them. What I want to see is respect and appreciation for all good and smart people. There are a lot of those both in Israel and Palestine. I believe in brotherhood between Jews and Arabs. Like I said, genetically I am a mixture of Slav, Greek, Arab, Jew and Spanish and I can’t hate any of them, it’s like hating myself.
        To be honest with you I am not concerned about Israeli politicians. I could care less about them. I am just against average Joes like you and me being punished. That’s just not fair. It doesn’t help. I live in America and I just dislike this idea that “we” have the power to impose stuff.
        Cheers!

      • catalan on May 8, 2015, 11:44 am

        “This is what you call “the brilliant.

        “It seems the Poker Face singer has run out of wacky outfits ideas and is opting to just go naked instead…” Amigo

        Mozart was a drunk too, Beethoven was kind of crazy. Celebrity and talent can be draining. Lady Gaga is a cool and talented singer that has accomplished a lot in a very short time. It’s tough to be normal when you are so popular and talented. All I am saying, don’t bash her just because she is acting crazy. Many people would kill to accomplish 1 percent of what she has.

      • Mooser on May 9, 2015, 11:01 am

        “I am just against average Joes like you and me being punished.”

        So, “catalan”, shall I go to your archive, and quote all your bragging about your intelligence, hard work, education and accomplishments?

        Nah, I tried that yesterday, and quickly realized I would clutter up yards of the thread with it. I won’t do that again.
        I’ll just go back to pointing out that readers can access a commenter’s archive by clicking on their name.

        Catalan, I may start calling you “Your Majesty” cause you sure changes from day to day.

      • oldgeezer on May 9, 2015, 11:20 am

        @Mooser

        I think majesty may be over the top. All he is whining about is not getting the respect that he, in a moment of brilliance, has deemed himself worthy of.

        Typical of a 20 something although he could be a late bloomer.

      • catalan on May 9, 2015, 11:24 am

        Catalan, I may start calling you “Your Majesty” cause you sure changes from day to day. – Mooser
        I told you I am in middle management in government in your country.
        That’s pretty average. I am not a celebrity not some famous politician. Your hatred of me, someone you don’t know shows simply who you are. What inedaquacies you are hiding under this snickering, taunting, and hateful facade we will never know. Stay classy.

      • annie on May 9, 2015, 11:41 am

        more accusations of hatred from catalan. yawn, that’s not very buddha like (your phrase). why would you think mooser (or anyone) would care enough about you to hate you? that’s crazy, and certainly not classy.

      • just on May 9, 2015, 11:42 am

        “I told you I am in middle management in government in your country.”

        Weird that the US government hires someone who freely admits they were “illegal”…

      • catalan on May 9, 2015, 11:52 am

        Weird that the US government hires someone who freely admits they were “illegal”… – Just
        Terrible. I am with you. It’s a local govenrment and they are not as vigorous in fencing off the untermenchen as the federal one. But I agree with you, it’s awful a subhuman is taking the jobs of real Americans such as yourself.

      • catalan on May 9, 2015, 4:28 pm

        “yawn, that’s not very buddha like (your phrase).” Annie
        No, my phrase was the way of the Buddha. (Notice the capital B). Nobody can be Buddha-like, because he was one of the great teachers. You can try to read his wisdom and learn a little bit. He speaks much of anger.

      • just on May 9, 2015, 6:29 pm

        “It’s a local govenrment and they are not as vigorous in fencing off the untermenchen as the federal one. But I agree with you, it’s awful a subhuman is taking the jobs of real Americans such as yourself.”

        Superb passive- aggressive behavior, catalan! You should be in pictures! Ah, so it’s a local government position that you have, not a federal one! I see. Most governments in the US are pretty careful about background checks, etc. It would be interesting to hear how you obtained your position with your illegal background. Who called you an “untermenchen” and “subhuman”???

        PS~ what’s a “real American”, and why label me? You certainly don’t ‘know me’.

      • Mooser on May 10, 2015, 2:55 pm

        “Your hatred of me, someone you don’t know ….”

        We don’t know you? All the stuff, an archive full, you write about yourself, describing yourself, your history, your feelings and views, is false? You wrote all that just to waste our time?
        And you expect to be liked? Okay, pal. We don’t know you.

    • lonely rico on May 7, 2015, 7:46 pm

      > DoubleStandard

      Maybe you should think big picture …

      Too right.

      Lauryn Hill and others are nothing but the
      (lengthening list)
      of known personalities
      who want to have nothing to do with your brutal zionist regime.
      The big picture is the
      majority of humankind,
      who are sickened by
      ugly racist Israel.

    • miriam6 on May 9, 2015, 9:25 am

      Annie [email protected]

      YOU are being disingenuous!

      Sanctions are widely regarded as an act of aggression by all those who hold a truly progressive stance on politics

      Sanctions are regarded as a tool used in lieu of all out war against other nations

      And what is BDS but an attempt to impose sanctions on Israel?

      America in its wars of aggression against the Rest of the World has imposed and continues to impose sanctions on a long list of other nations running from A -Z including :

      Iran
      Iraq
      Syria
      Libya
      Lebanon
      Cuba
      Venezuela
      Russia
      Belarus
      Burma
      North Korea
      Democratic Rep of Congo
      Liberia
      Ivory Coast
      Zimbabwe

      So do not lecture me that BDS is non aggressive / non violent

      Once again Annie Robbins you are hoisted up on a hypocritical petard of your own making.

      http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/Pages/Programs.aspx

      • just on May 9, 2015, 10:22 am

        I was against many US sanctions on some countries.

        I am for US sanctions on Israel.

        Boycotting and divesting from Israel and Israeli goods produced on stolen Palestinian land is alive and well.

        It is non- violent. It is progressive. It is working, and that’s why you’re here!

        “The global movement for a campaign of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it complies with international law and Palestinian rights was initiated by Palestinian civil society in 2005, and is coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee (BNC), established in 2007. BDS is a strategy that allows people of conscience to play an effective role in the Palestinian struggle for justice.

        For decades, Israel has denied Palestinians their fundamental rights of freedom, equality, and self-determination through ethnic cleansing, colonization, racial discrimination, and military occupation. Despite abundant condemnation of Israeli policies by the UN, other international bodies, and preeminent human rights organisations, the world community has failed to hold Israel accountable and enforce compliance with basic principles of law. Israel’s crimes have continued with impunity.

        In view of this continued failure, Palestinian civil society called for a global citizens’ response. On July 9 2005, a year after the International Court of Justice’s historic advisory opinion on the illegality of Israel’s Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), a clear majority of Palestinian civil society called upon their counterparts and people of conscience all over the world to launch broad boycotts, implement divestment initiatives, and to demand sanctions against Israel, until Palestinian rights are recognised in full compliance with international law.

        The campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) is shaped by a rights-based approach and highlights the three broad sections of the Palestinian people: the refugees, those under military occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and Palestinians in Israel. The call urges various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law by:

        Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall;
        Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and
        Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194.

        The BDS call was endorsed by over 170 Palestinian political parties, organizations, trade unions and movements. The signatories represent the refugees, Palestinians in the OPT, and Palestinian citizens of Israel.”

        – See more at: http://www.bdsmovement.net/bdsintro#sthash.obVoRh3z.dpuf

      • RoHa on May 9, 2015, 10:46 am

        Don’t worry, Annie. Being on a petard might be a bit uncomfortable, but as long as it doesn’t explode you’ll be OK. You won’t be hoist.

      • annie on May 9, 2015, 11:05 am

        what petard? miriam’s strawman? lol. you’ve got to be kidding me RoHa. she’s made me a nice soft pillow of straw to launch a counter attack, it’s very comfortable and quite easy.

      • annie on May 9, 2015, 10:50 am

        YOU are being disingenuous!

        Sanctions are widely regarded as an act of aggression

        strawman miriam, you have no argument because i never made any claims regarding sanctions being non aggressive, nor would i. plus, you didn’t even address my argument:

        you know quite well that bds is non violent resistance to a decades long imposed military occupation controlling who can and cannot enter palestine. what amigo referenced as “Israel boycotts Palestinian cultural activity.” is not a resistance movement nor is it non violent. the 2 cannot be compared. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/activists-cancelling-upcoming/comment-page-1#comment-766739

        you’re spamming the thread miriam. nothing i said was hypocritical or disingenuous. try staying on topic (BDS = non violent resistance).

        So do not lecture me that BDS is non aggressive / non violent –

        i’ll lecture you on bds whenever i see fit, especially when you try building strawman arguments by putting words in my mouth i didn’t say. lick your wounds, you #FAILED

      • annie on May 9, 2015, 11:16 am

        p.s. again for your edification miriam:

        your comment and accusation of hypocrisy applies a stunning false equivalence. it’s your logic that’s deeply flawed, not amigos.

        and this is to your pathetic accusation here:

        Amigo @

        Your lack of logic and hypocrisy is quite stunning.

        You disapprove of cultural boycotts imposed by Israel on Palestinians but then go on to applaud the BDS cultural boycott of Israel / Israelis?!

        Shame on you!

        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/activists-cancelling-upcoming/comment-page-1#comment-766752

        what idiot who compares a violent military occupation to a non violent resistance movement? you, that’s who. and the reason i am copy/pasting this dialogue here is because instead of scrolling up where the argument took place on the thread and posting your reply (that would land right under just and adele’s [ “Any failure and shame belongs to you and those like you, miriam6. jmo – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/activists-cancelling-upcoming/comment-page-1#comment-766752“] skewering response to your ridiculous allegations) you decided to respond down thread to divorce yourself and the argument from the source. iow: scroll up to the nearest reply function.

      • Marnie on May 11, 2015, 12:17 pm

        You sound just like a certain crazy wombat on +972 who calls herself Ginger Eis – is that you? Save your schoolmarm crap for the other sites, it doesn’t play well here since you’re the one being schooled by Ms. Annie. Try to learn something from her.

  16. catalan on May 7, 2015, 12:52 pm

    “If only you could escape, get out and go to aother website! – ”
    I am hooked. It’s like Aristophanes, but in real time.

  17. jon s on May 8, 2015, 4:12 pm

    I have in front of me the program of the Israel Festival for this summer.
    The program is 68 pages long, full of scheduled performances by international artists and performers.
    As long as the security situation remains relatively calm, and we don’t have a repeat of last summer- and the artists have the guts to resist the inevitable pressure and threats- we’re going to be swamped by international performers.

    Here are some of them:

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/American-diva-Dionne-Warwick-is-coming-to-Israel-says-she-wont-fall-victim-to-BDS-pressures-402245

    http://www.touristisrael.com/suzanne-vega-in-tel-aviv-israel/15465/

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4643273,00.html

    https://he-il.facebook.com/bsbIsrael

    http://www.touristisrael.com/dire-straits-experience-in-tel-aviv-israel/15511/

    • oldgeezer on May 8, 2015, 4:25 pm

      Suzanne vega and a dire straits cover band. A veritable woodstock i tell ya

    • Kris on May 8, 2015, 4:30 pm

      PRIMUS has taken themselves off the list, jon_s:

      “Primus and Lauryn Hill join a growing list of artists and performers who have pulled out of shows in Israel. As The Electronic Intifada noted earlier this week, the director of the Israel Festival recently revealed that the flagship government-backed cultural program has had to curtail its 2015 schedule due to the growing impact of the boycott, especially in the wake of Israel’s killing more than 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last July and August

      http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/primus-latest-band-cancel-israel-show

    • just on May 8, 2015, 4:30 pm

      Swamped is one way of putting it.

      Dionne, Suzanne, Art, Backstreet Boys, and Dire Straits ‘Experience’ sans Knopfler .

      Yep. No accounting for taste. Although it is interesting that :

      “Marie Dionne Warrick, known as Dionne Warwick (/ˈdiːɒn ˈwɔːrwɪk/; born December 12, 1940), is an American singer, actress and TV-show host, who became a United Nations Global Ambassador for the Food and Agriculture Organization, and a United States Ambassador of Health.”

      (wiki)

      Playing Israel is not good for the health of Palestinians, nor for their crops and access to food. They shoot farmers and fishermen in Palestine, you know. They bomb hospitals and shelters. They kill children and anything that moves, too.

      Maybe these artists without a conscience would like to read just this little bit:

      “Palestinian shepherds beaten and arrested as Israeli occupation forces stun-grenade their sheep” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/assassinated-palestinian-separation#sthash.w8jJbRxN.dpuf

      and

      ““One of the greatest fears of local Palestinians is that land in the area will be set fire to – many of them have fields of wheat that are just due to be harvested, and this could destroy their entire crops”, says Rashid Sawafta, coordinator of the local group Jordan Valley Solidarity. “If scrub land is burnt by the army it will devastate the grazing land of cow, sheep and goat farmers”, Sawafta added. “These are very real fears. On 28 April a similar military exercise in the same area of Humsa Fouqa…resulted in the destruction of 3,000 to 4,000 dunams of crops and trees after the shootings and ammunitions of the Israeli army started fire on the land and Palestinian firefighter crews were prevented from reaching the area.” Deported residents, almost all of whom make a living from farming and livestock, will further be unable to provide food and ensure adequate shelter for their sheep, goats and other animals.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/villagers-international-intervention#sthash.7CvQ5Cco.dpuf

      Enjoy!

    • Kris on May 8, 2015, 4:37 pm

      jon_s: “As long as the security situation remains relatively calm, and we don’t have a repeat of last summer…”

      Maybe Israel should install lots of bleachers, just in case there IS “a repeat of last summer”?

      Zionist Jews would probably pay plenty to sit in comfort and watch the white phosphorus and bombs rain down again on the Palestinian families trapped in the open-air concentration camp that is Gaza, and you could profit a lot on the concessions, too.

      • just on May 8, 2015, 4:39 pm

        +1!

    • Marnie on May 9, 2015, 6:01 am

      Some people will do anything for money and or/recognition or to prove, as many might have thought, they’re not really dead after all!

      “As long as the security situation remains relatively calm, and we don’t have a repeat of last summer-” What? Something happen last summer Jon S? What, oh what could have happened in these elysian fields, the “only democracy in the middle east”, the land of milk and honey otherwise known as the apartheid “state” of Israel?

      Let me rephrase this for you because your statement was pretty fucking vague:

      1) As long as the Palestinian leadership doesn’t get any ideas, like unity between Hamas and Fatah –
      2) As long as the IDF doesn’t arrest 400-500 Palestinians and lock them up without charges –
      3) As long as someone in the N’Yahoo government, etc., doesn’t announce his fear of a possible kidnapping scenario of some innocent yeshiva manboys-
      4) As long as some yeshiva manboys are not kidnapped and murdered (but the public led to believe they were alive for weeks, in order to continue the random acts of cruelty regularly visited upon Palestinian people before a solid plan is put together for those angelic IDF soldiers to get their shots off) –
      4) As long as N’Yahoo doesn’t go to the funeral of said manboys and make references to “revenge” and his tweet”Vengeance for the blood of a small child, Satan has not yet created. Neither has vengeance for the blood of 3 pure youths”-
      5) As long as some settler psychopaths do not kidnap a Palestinian youth, immolate him in sacrifice on the altar of the pagan ZioGod –
      6) As long as the IDF doesn’t unleash hell, yet again, on the prisoners of Gaza –

      Is that what you were referring too?

      How do you sleep at night JonS – do you need pharmaceutical assistance or is counting sheep enough?

      • Mooser on May 10, 2015, 2:50 pm

        “How do you sleep at night JonS – do you need pharmaceutical assistance or is counting sheep enough?”

        Why would you he have problems falling asleep? He just never wakes up. His posts are somnambulistic, and no mistake.

        As for “counting sheep” I didn’t think linking to a video of a slaughterhouse was appropriate.

  18. a blah chick on May 8, 2015, 4:23 pm

    “As long as the security situation remains relatively calm, and we don’t have a repeat of last summer”

    Remains calm? Do you know how many Palestinians have been shot this past year? Do you know how many people have been arrested without charge and houses demolished. It is not calm at all!

    Excuse me, I forgot that Arabs don’t count as human.

  19. just on May 9, 2015, 11:27 am

    I think it’s a wondrous article, so forgive the length. There’s much more @ the link, behind the paywall!

    “An odyssey from Birthright to the BDS movement

    Some young Jews on the Israel excursion program say a rah-rah atmosphere has turned them into harsh critics of the occupation.

    Sam Sussman’s tour of Masada started in a pretty standard way. It happened three years ago as part of the Taglit-Birthright program, which offers young Jews free 10-day trips to Israel. At Masada, 50 American students were on hand.

    Sussman, a 24-year-old New Yorker, climbed to the top of the plateau and expected the requisite spiritual experience. But what struck him was the guide’s speech when the group reached the top — on the importance of Jewish lives.

    According to Sussman, the tour guide said: “I have Italian neighbors I grew up next to, and they’re wonderful, but if I had to decide whether to save their lives or the life of one Jew, I would choose to save the Jew. If I had to decide to save 100 non-Jews or one Jew, I would choose the Jew.”

    Sussman was studying political science at the time and went on the trip to learn about the Israeli-Arab conflict. But he says that over the 10-day tour this issue almost never came up. The group didn’t meet one Israeli Arab or Palestinian, and met maybe one or two Israelis who didn’t espouse right-wing views.

    Sussman says he was particularly surprised by what he considered matter-of-fact racism. When he asked a guide about the conflict, he was told: “You know, the Arabs have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

    In a gathering with soldiers — a high point of the trip — Sussman talked with a woman soldier about the Palestinians; she spoke mostly about her run-ins with them and about how they allegedly hate Jews. According to Sussman, when he asked if she had ever tried to talk to Arabs, she said: “I don’t understand, are you on the Arabs’ side?”

    Birthright, for its part, calls itself an apolitical organization that’s neither right nor left.

    After the program, Sussman went on a different trip to the West Bank, where he learned about arrests of children there. The group met a youth who had been arrested.

    Sussman says he asked himself a hypothetical question. If the people on the Birthright trip discussed the issue with the Palestinian youth, would they be disturbed about how a country with so many admirable values could make such an arrest?

    Sussman thus founded Extend, a program of five-day tours in the West Bank designed to round out the Birthright experience.

    Sussman isn’t the only American to visit Israel on a Birthright or similar program and return filled with questions that morph into criticism. Many of these young people I spoke with say that after Birthright they became activists in left-wing organizations. They reflect the way some people see Israel when visiting for the first time — as well as young American Jews’ changing relationship with the land of their ancestors.

    A Bedouin trip without Bedouin

    Chris Godshall, a 21-year-old who lives in New York, went on a Birthright tour not to strengthen his Jewish identity but to find it. Like many young American Jews, he was born to a Jewish mother and Christian father. He joined a Birthright trip in June 2012, thinking he could research his identity while enjoying a free trip.

    Like Sussman, Godshall says he was surprised by the virtual absence of the Palestinian issue. Instead, there was a focus on victimization, which included talking about Palestinians who wore explosive belts and killed people on buses, without noting the political context, he says. Even when they spent a night at a Bedouin encampment in the Negev, the Birthrighters didn’t speak to Bedouin; they only ate the local cuisine and rode camels.

    At a kibbutz on the northern border the group met an American Jew who now lives on the kibbutz. Godshall says the man’s shirt listed pogroms and killings of Jews throughout history, with the word Iran at the bottom with a question mark instead of a date.

    “He told us, ‘It’s my duty to defend this land, which is also your land.’ And he added, ‘I’ll shoot any Lebanese who comes here, and I don’t care whether it’s a man, child or woman. They have no place here, and even the Lebanese children and women are guilty of crimes against Israel,’” Godshall says.

    “A few of the participants nodded their heads in agreement. I thought it was a sick statement.”…

    A very small minority

    In research conducted in 2009 and 2010, 1,677 American Jews who took part in Birthright five to nine years earlier were asked about their views on Judaism and Israel. This was compared with the views of Jews who signed up for the program but did not take part. Participants had a much greater chance of feeling “very connected to Israel.”

    Separately, among participants who spent time in Israel during last summer’s Gaza war, only 5 percent said they did not support Israel and 4 percent said they felt “very alienated from Israel.” Godshall, Sussman and their friends make up a very small minority, but when we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of participants, even this group can add up.

    This minority can be seen in the growth of Jewish Voice for Peace, which was founded in 1996 and now has around 60 branches on college campuses around the United States. The minority can also be seen in J Street U — the J Street arm that now operates at 58 U.S. universities.

    Meanwhile, the All That’s Left organization targets non-Israelis who live in or are visiting Israel and want to protest the occupation. In Canada, the group If Not Now was established after the Gaza war; it calls for a more open dialogue on Israel in the Jewish community and for a solution to the conflict.

    In any case, Birthright rejects accusations about its political orientation. “We’re an apolitical organization that doesn’t push an agenda left or right,” says Birthright CEO Gidi Mark. “We act according to the principles of pluralism and do not promote cooperation with the right or left.”

    So why have you refused to cooperate with J Street, which is identified with the American left, while you accept huge donations from Sheldon Adelson?

    As Dr. Zohar Raviv, Birthright’s international vice president for education, puts it: “Among our supporters there are supporters on the right such as Sheldon Adelson and supporters like Charles Bronfman, who is not necessarily known as a right-wing supporter. Birthright today represents 95 percent of the prevailing opinions among Disapora Jews, and our source of support is that we’re not identified politically.”

    How can you provide an Israeli narrative without giving an Arab viewpoint?

    Mark: “For better or worse we have only 10 days — 100 hours awake — in which we have to cover 2,000 years of Jewish existence, 67 years of Israel’s existence, and that’s without talking about the future. For everything that goes in, we have to take something else out.

    “A good number of the participants come without any cohesive foundation of learning, and when they get to Israel we want to show them that the Israeli totality is unlimited. Do we provide everything a young Jew needs? No, but we hope this is just the first visit among many.”

    Raviv estimates that around a quarter of participants meet with Arabs, “but the issue is discussed in almost 100 percent of the groups.”

    “I can honestly tell you that I get stomach cramps when I hear the testimonies you quote. But it bothers me that you don’t give voice to the thousands of positive testimonies we get,” Raviv says.

    “We’re also constantly getting slapped from the right and are trying not to be dragged to either side. We have no solution for 100 percent of the clients, but we provide a solution for 90 percent.”

    How do you even dare to build an apolitical program in such a thorny situation? After all, the name Birthright has political significance.

    Mark: “Reality is complicated. It’s complicated for someone who lives here, and even more so for someone who doesn’t. Birthright is only the beginning of a road, and that’s positive.

    “As more people come here, more people will understand that the situation is complex — and this will help them deal with it. One measure of success is their desire to return to Israel for a longer trip or to read material about Israel. It doesn’t matter to me what the source is.”

    When you hear about Birthright veterans getting involved in movements against the occupation or volunteering with NGOs in the West Bank, is that a success or failure?

    Raviv: “Why a failure? If as a result of the process a person wants to be more involved in the community, how can that be a failure? Community and mutual support are supreme Birthright values.

    “If a participant says ‘I experienced a connection to my people, to Israel as a Jewish and democratic country that also has a non-Jewish community, and an understanding that the story here is more complex and I want to come back,’ that’s only a success.”

    Mark has a different view. “I have no interest in Birthright graduates volunteering for anti-Israel groups; I see that as a failure. I don’t know of such cases and very much hope there won’t be any,” he says.

    “We’re a Zionist organization and don’t intend to put the question of Israel’s right to exist on the table. If a Birthright participant goes on to volunteer for an anti-Israel organization, that’s a failure for us.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/.premium-1.655627

    Go BirthWrong!

    “BirthWrong’ in the Cradle of Jewish Culture: Jews gather in southern Spain for tour that aims to repudiate Zionism” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/birthwrong-southern-repudiate#sthash.k6iv8mhE.dpuf

    Go Godshall, Sussman and friends! Go JVP! BDS!

    • Marnie on May 9, 2015, 12:14 pm

      “At a kibbutz on the northern border the group met an American Jew who now lives on the kibbutz. Godshall says the man’s shirt listed pogroms and killings of Jews throughout history, with the word Iran at the bottom with a question mark instead of a date. “He told us, ‘It’s my duty to defend this land, which is also your land.’ And he added, ‘I’ll shoot any Lebanese who comes here, and I don’t care whether it’s a man, child or woman. They have no place here, and even the Lebanese children and women are guilty of crimes against Israel,’” Godshall says. “-

      Ughh. Not surprised this was an American Jew; they seem to be the most fanatic of the fanatics. Thanks for this Just.

      • just on May 9, 2015, 12:44 pm

        Thanks Marnie.

        Here’s the rest of that section:

        “The man was an extremist who didn’t represent the Israeli mainstream, but the fact the group met with him says a lot about the trip, Godshall says. This person’s opinion was presented as important and legitimate.

        In Tel Aviv, the group was taken to the Independence Hall museum on Rothschild Boulevard, where the State of Israel was declared in 1948. They were shown a film on the founding of Israel, “which showed how God brought the Jews to the desert and they made it bloom,” Godshall says.

        “There was no mention of the fact that another people lived here. In the video there was only desert; sand dunes. The Jews were exiled, and then they returned — a real erasure of history. It made me wonder what the agenda of the whole thing was.””

        I’d have to disagree with Godshall there. I think that the illegal ‘settler’s’ view is becoming more mainstream. Witness the 95% that supported last summer’s massacre.

    • RoHa on May 9, 2015, 8:35 pm

      “He joined a Birthright trip in June 2012, thinking he could research his identity ”

      So he could read what it said in his passport?

      • just on May 10, 2015, 8:49 am

        Good one, RoHa!

        In other news, via Max Blumenthal:

        “A controversial Jerusalem course to educate American Muslims about Judaism, Israel and Zionism has lost its sole Palestinian member.

        Kamal Abu-Shamsieh, a Palestinian American healthcare chaplain publicly defected from the Shalom Hartman Institute’s Muslim Leadership Initiative in a Facebook posting after he said the organization failed to take a “morally-principled stand” against issues affecting East Jerusalem Palestinians.

        “I failed in reforming MLI despite repeated attempts,” he wrote. “The recommendations that are necessary to bridging the gaps with the Palestinians were ignored. Recently, the sponsors of MLI rejected my call to take a morally-principled stand against recent revocation of residency status and appropriation of property of Palestinians in East Jerusalem.”…

        …Critics have accused the program of “faithwashing” by casting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a religious misunderstanding that papers over Israeli injustices toward the Palestinians.

        The program has also come under fire because the Shalom Hartman Institute receives funding from the Russell Berrie Foundation, which the Center for American Progress named as a major “contributor to promoting Islamophobia” in America in a 2011 report.

        Halevi claimed that Abu-Shamsieh was pressured to leave the organization by the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Reached by the Forward, Abu-Shamsieh said that was not true. Abu-Shamsieh declined to elaborate, but said that he would be releasing a statement about his experience in MLI in the next few days.”

        http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/307872/only-palestinian-quits-israeli-muslim-outreach-program/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Main

        I’m looking forward to his “statement about his experience in MLI”.

      • Mooser on May 10, 2015, 4:40 pm

        “Kamal Abu-Shamsieh, a Palestinian American healthcare chaplain publicly defected from the Shalom Hartman Institute’s Muslim Leadership Initiative”

        This is terrible news. You see, an Israeli history teacher tells us:

        In Israel there’s a rising tide of racism , xenophobia and anti-democratic tendencies, especially (though not exclusively) among the Orthodox Jews.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/jon-s?keyword=rising+tide#sthash.LFPX86hs.dpuf

        and that Hartman is:

        “a little island of pluralism amidst a sea of what was often religious fanaticism…” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/jon-s?keyword=rising+tide#sthash.LFPX86hs.dpuf

        If Hartman goes, what defense have we against the “rising tide” and etc? Very worried.

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