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Law firm pulls $250,000 gift to Harvard over Palestine event (demonstrating Zionism’s pervasiveness)

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This disturbing story appeared yesterday in an independent publication at the Harvard Law School. HLS Justice for Palestine says that the law firm of Milbank Tweed has withdrawn a gift of $250,000 to the law school because $500 of that money was spent on a pro-Palestinian event that Milbank wanted its name dissociated from. The law school refused to accept those terms for the gift; and Milbank, Tweed walked.

Though Law Dean Martha Minow showed spine in the matter, she also did not announce the withdrawal. No, the Palestinian solidarity students did, in this letter to the Harvard Law Record:

At the start of this semester, HLS announced, without explanation, the sudden termination of the Milbank Fund. We are writing today so that the record may reflect that the termination of the Milbank Fund is, in fact, completely our fault.

In our defense, we couldn’t have possibly foreseen how our actions would come to affect the rest of the campus community. On the eve of our first-ever Milbank-sponsored speaker event, [October 20, 2015] titled “The Palestine Exception to Free Speech: A Movement Under Attack”, the only thing we were really concerned about was what type of food to order for our fellow classmates…

So we ordered pizza—about $500 worth…

Even though we had only used Milbank’s money for the pizza (our speakers, two civil rights attorneys and an undergraduate student, graciously offered their time at no additional cost to the school), we held up our end of the deal by including, in all promotional e-mails and at the bottom of the event’s official Facebook page, some iteration of the following sentence: “This event is brought to you by the generous support of Milbank LLP.”

Between bites of Milbank-funded formaggio, event attendees listened as speakers discussed the widespread suppression of Palestinian rights advocacy in the United States. One of the cases highlighted was that of Steven Salaita, an academic whose tenure position at the University of Illinois was revoked after he tweeted criticism of Israel’s 2014 aerial bombardment over Gaza. Salaita’s lawyers later discovered that the university had caved in to significant pressure from donors who had threatened to pull their donations if the university insisted on retaining him.

Ironically enough, a very similar sequence of events would unfold at Harvard Law School in the aftermath of our event. The very next day, the Dean of Students office—citing a flood of angry phone calls and emails received from Milbank executives and other off-campus parties over the previous 24 hours—asked an organizer of the event to disassociate from Milbank in all past and future Justice for Palestine programming. [1] As a start, the organizer was asked to immediately remove the reference to Milbank’s “generous support” from JFP’s Facebook event page.

After acknowledging that they recognized the irony in asking a student to retroactively edit the description for an event that was about free speech and its exceptions, the Dean of Students administrators proceeded to make it very clear that our cooperation would be greatly appreciated. Even though the event had already passed, it was evident that the administration was feeling tremendous pressure to do something, anything, to appease Milbank.

In exchange for a written guarantee that JFP’s future funding (be it from Milbank or any other source) would not be adversely affected, we agreed to remove the sentence from the Facebook event page. Though that guarantee was promised to us, we never got it.

Turns out, that’s because our request was directly incompatible with what Milbank was demanding. Administrators would later reveal that Milbank had gone so far as to demand that JFP’s Milbank funding be rescinded completely. According to Dean Minow, this was not a demand her administration could honor, so Milbank decided to pull out all of its annual $250,000 in student activity funding as a result of her administration’s “principled stance” in support of our right to speak openly and honestly about Palestine.

We are grateful to Dean Minow and the law school administration for refusing to buckle under intense anti-Palestinian pressure. We are also disappointed, though not particularly surprised, that at Harvard Law School, too, there exists such an exception to free speech when it comes to Palestine.

I called the law school today for confirmation of the facts; am waiting for a response. But the school plainly came under pressure from NGO Monitor last year. And the students say that a Carlos Latuff cartoon on its Facebook page was at one time cited by the law school administration– disingenuously, say the students– as a pretext for the withdrawal of the $500 the school had passed on from the Milbank fund. The real issue was simply the association of Milbank’s name with the student group and its cause.

Latuff cartoon cited in Harvard Law School donor-pressure case

Latuff cartoon cited in Harvard Law School donor-pressure case

Let us be very clear what this case is about: donor pressure that reflects an institutional attachment to Zionism. I can’t imagine that Milbank, Tweed’s partners are all Zionist. But the firm is clearly frightened by the idea that the use of its gift to sponsor such free speech would be used against it publicly, and would then hurt its business. It communicated its fear to Dean Minow. And she held her ground (notwithstanding her commitment, at the behest of a donor, to the study of Israeli law).

Under similar pressure, the chancellor the University of Illinois Urbana Champaign folded and fired Steven Salaita a year and a half ago. The chancellor’s emails, which Salaita’s attorneys produced, show panic among the school fundraisers over Salaita’s tweets on behalf of Palestinians being massacred in Gaza in summer 2014. So the chancellor was running to Chicago to meet with angry Jewish donors. And to be clear, not all Jews are Zionists. But Zionism is lodged inside the Jewish community like a lure in the belly of a northern pike.

We see the same process in the utter suppression of the Palestinian issue by the Democratic candidates. Hillary Clinton takes millions from pro-Israel groups and Bernie Sanders tapdances about his own personal commitment to Israel. And neither will go near any criticism of Israel, and Hillary vows to fight boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) in a letter to her contributor Haim Saban– who is one billionaire donor that Bernie Sanders refuses to criticize.

Let’s broaden this analysis: Neoconservatism still has influence because of donor pressure. Jane Eisner of the Forward, an Israel lover, explained last month that criticism of Israel is tamped down in the U.S. Jewish community because of “fear of alienating the powerful donors, mostly from the right, who increasingly dictate the contours and acceptability of American Jewish discourse.” Another Jewish political leader said the same thing last year in a piece lamenting rightwing pressures: “In our community, there is this strange hegemony of big donors demanding control of decisions.”

They are speaking about an inside-Jewish-community conversation, but that rightwing Jewish community is influential publicly. Look at the foreign policy consulting group Beacon Global Strategies, run by former Clinton aides Jeremy Bash, Andrew Shapiro and Philippe Reines. All these men had positions of great power; and they dispense foreign policy advice to Democrats and Republicans alike, of a neocon/interventionist flavor. When Reines was at the State Department and someone circulated an article by Stephen Walt criticizing the lobbying efforts of pro-Israel groups, Reines cracked, “My people control the banks too.”

He was issuing the standard warning, to talk about Zionism’s influence is to be anti-Semitic. Earlier this week, the usual critics leaped on Steven Salaita for alleged anti-semitism for this piece in the Nation (from last year) describing the pervasiveness of Zionism. Salaita was eloquent:

Support for Israel… exists in sites of authority, often an omnipresent but invisible accoutrement to swivel chairs, mineral water, and mahogany tables.

It’s not merely ideological Zionism that leads upper administration to support Israel—or, to be more precise, to entertain and normalize Zionist activism. Palestine solidarity represents democratization, grassroots organizing, anti-racism, and decolonization; it’s deeply involved in ethnic studies and other subversive fields. An upper administrator needn’t be amenable to West Bank settlement to understand the value of Zionism in his line of work.

Zionism is part and parcel of unilateral administrative power. It lends itself to top-down decision-making, to suppression of anti-neoliberal activism, to restrictions on speech, to colonial governance, to corporatization and counterrevolution

Though I come at this as a liberal (bourgeois white Jewish Bernie-loving) anti-Zionist with concerns about the US public interest, and describe the problem as the “Israel lobby,” I completely share Salaita’s analysis of the problem. On this basis Salaita is not going to vote for Bernie Sanders, he announced this week: because Salaita honorably draws the line at Zionism.

This is a conversation the left has been unable to have for nearly 50 years now, since black power groups recognized the ’67 War as a war of aggression and they were shunned by the progressive, enthusiastically-Zionist wing of the Democratic Party for saying so. 50 years of PEP (Progressive Except Palestine) inside liberal institutions! Christ what a blockage.

Let us have this out. The young left is ready, the young Jewish community is ready. Youth must lead us.

Thanks to Glenn Greenwald.

Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.

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  1. chet on February 17, 2016, 3:18 pm

    I had to rein myself in to not post a rant about the malign influence of ” … money” (still taboo as anti-Semitic?) in respect of American democracy, free speech and foreign policy.

  2. annie on February 17, 2016, 4:06 pm

    Zionism is lodged inside the Jewish community like a lure in the belly of a northern pike.

    you have such a way w/words phil.

    • Mooser on February 17, 2016, 5:37 pm

      “like a lure in the belly”

      As I remember (before I gave it up) a fish hooked through the lip can be carefully released, to swim away. A fist which swallows the lure, well, you might as well heat up a pan, and start filleting.

      • Ellen on February 23, 2016, 2:18 pm

        As the saying goes…swallowing it hook, line and sinker….

        In other words, you did yourself in, you are cooked, done!

  3. MHughes976 on February 17, 2016, 4:41 pm

    I only half agree with Salaita’s comments about Palestine activism representing grassroots activism and democratisation and therefore getting up the noses of administrators. If activists on behalf of ill-treated races in say Latin America had wanted to put on an event and buy formaggio I’m sure that the same administrators would have smiled proudly and would have met protests from Mexican millionaires, even if they were potential donors, and from the Paraguyan Embassy with a fine display of liberal scorn. There would have been a ripple of applause in the press of all shades of opinion. Zionism is different. The belief that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism is lodged in non-Jewish hearts like a hamster in a wheel – my metaphors aren’t as good as Phil’s. That old wheel just keeps going round and round.

    • bettyberenson on February 19, 2016, 8:08 pm

      Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Nothing more, nothing less. The enemies of Israel have added hatred, anti-Semitic metaphors and lies to life-saving Zionism. Because of the success of Zionism, Jews escaping Africa, the Arab world and Europe have a place to go. Just like any sovereign nation, there is a home. There should be no one killed because there was nowhere to go. The Arabs are responsible for their own failures.
      Bravo to Millbank for using their money and influence to insist that knee-jerk hatred of Israel is challenged. Maybe the haters will begin to expect more nation-building, instead or murder and terrorism, from the Arabs.

      • Mooser on February 19, 2016, 10:54 pm

        “Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Nothing more, nothing less.”

        Oh, I see. So I guess that makes it all alright, then. Sorry about making a fuss over all that theft and murder.

      • talknic on February 19, 2016, 11:26 pm

        @ bettyberenson February 19, 2016, 8:08 pm

        “Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people.”

        Nonsense. It’s a pyramid scheme that survives only on having more and more land to be available to be sold to gullible Jews.

        Herzl in his lifetime could have legally immigrated to Palestine, taken Palestinian citizenship, bought land and settled anywhere in the Jewish People’s Historical Homeland. He didn’t bother, nor did his family

        ” Because of the success of Zionism…”

        What success? Israel is in breach of binding International Law, the UN Charter and relevant binding conventions reaffirmed and emphasized in numerous UNSC resolutions.

        A rogue state is not a ‘success’ it’s a blight

      • RoHa on February 20, 2016, 4:15 am

        “The enemies of Israel have added hatred, anti-Semitic metaphors and lies to life-saving Zionism. ”

        If Israel and Zionism are so benign and beneficial, how did they make enemies?

      • just on February 20, 2016, 7:36 am

        What brand of “social worker” are you? What and who do you serve?

        (So interesting to find new folks here at MW…)

      • eljay on February 20, 2016, 8:41 am

        || bettyberenson: Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. Nothing more, nothing less. … ||

        That’s sooo cute! :-)

        Zionism is religion-based supremacism by, of and for people who happen to be Jewish, in a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” carved out of as much as possible of Palestine. Zionism was and remains injustice and immorality.

        || … The enemies of Israel have added hatred, anti-Semitic metaphors and lies to life-saving Zionism. … ||

        Greedy, belligerent and intransigent Zionism has been destroying lives – and livelihoods – for decades. Zionism is intentionally and unapologetically hateful and immoral. Zionism its own worst enemy and will be its own downfall.

        Israel should continue to exist as a secular and democratic state of and for all of its Israeli citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally. Religion-supremacist “Jewish State” must go.

        || … Because of the success of Zionism, Jews escaping Africa, the Arab world and Europe have a place to go. … ||

        Jews escaping Africa, the Arab world and Europe had places to go before a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” was destructively carved out of Palestine.

        Zionism did not help them, but it did – and continues to do – much harm to the non-Jews it rejects (i.e., Israeli refugees), oppresses, tortures and kills.

        || … Just like any sovereign nation, there is a home. … ||

        Israel is the home of its non-Jewish and Jewish Israeli citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees.

        Countries around the world are the homes of their respective non-Jewish and Jewish citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees.

        “Jewish State” is neither a sovereign nation nor a “home” – it is a religion-supremacist construct that has no right to exist.

      • bettyberenson on February 20, 2016, 9:58 am

        Ignorance of history and anti-Semitism fuel your stupidity. The conflict in the Middle East is complicated, and takes a lot of study and thought. Yes, Jews have a right to our ancient and modern homeland. It is a beautiful and thriving country. You should be honest anti-Semites: no technology or polio vaccines for you. In your honor, I have just made donations to The Red Star of David and the Jewish National Fund. It felt great.
        The moment you make things up about the Jewish national homeland, and the Jewish people, it is a reflection on you. Most people are capable of independent thought. You have accepted as fact the lies and propaganda of Israel’s enemies, which you have joined.

      • MHughes976 on February 20, 2016, 10:01 am

        If it is true that Z is a national liberation movement (not that any argument in favour of this description is offered) and if that sort of movement is one that advocates the principles on which Israel has established and maintained itself then – nice as the words sound – the less national liberation there is, much the better.

      • echinococcus on February 20, 2016, 10:58 am

        It’s really, really so incredibly complicated, Betty: invasion, theft and genocide. No one ever heard a more intricate Gordian knot of a story.

      • Kay24 on February 20, 2016, 11:08 am

        Once the Koolaid wears off, try to fathom out why there is so much hatred for a nation that has had a brutal occupation for more than 60 years, keeps stealing lands, and keeps killing unarmed civilians at the slightest opportunity. Zionists must do the right thing and keep within their 1967 borders. The Jews have provoked the Arabs by building more and more illegal settlements, which goes against international laws. Stop pretending that the Jews are not causing their own misery that they seem to like whining about, and blaming the Arabs for. There are always reasons why a nation might be hated – killing, stealing, and lying about it, might be some.

      • eljay on February 20, 2016, 11:53 am

        || bettyberenson: Ignorance of history and anti-Semitism fuel your stupidity. … ||

        I’m aware of both history and anti-Semitism, so perhaps you’re the stupid one.

        || … The conflict in the Middle East is complicated, and takes a lot of study and thought. … ||

        Well, then, you’d better get to it.

        || … Yes, Jews have a right to our ancient and modern homeland. … ||

        There is no single “ancient and modern homeland” for every person in the world who happens:
        – to undergo a religious conversion to Judaism; or
        – to be descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion to Judaism.

        || … The moment you make things up about the Jewish national homeland, and the Jewish people, it is a reflection on you. … ||

        Right, so stop making things up about a “Jewish national homeland”. And stop anti-Semitically conflating Israel with all Jews and all Jews with Israel.

        || … Most people are capable of independent thought. … ||

        Zio-supremacists like you, however, are not.

        || … You have accepted as fact the lies and propaganda of Israel’s enemies, which you have joined. ||

        You have accepted as fact – and now you proudly disseminate – the lies and propaganda of Zio-supremacists.

      • diasp0ra on February 20, 2016, 12:16 pm

        @Bettyberenson

        I love when people keep talking about how “complicated” the “conflict” is in the Middle East, but they almost never explain how it is complicated.

        How is it complicated, Betty, that a foreign group took over land from the indigenous population and ethnically cleansed them?

        The arcanization of the “conflict” is something Zionists love to do. It’s all so complicated and one of a kind that you can’t pass judgement. There is also my favorite: If you don’t live here you can’t pass judgement, because you don’t know.

        There is a reason why Israel is the leading country when it comes to states targeted by UNSC and UNGA resolutions, why it is one of the leading countries in human rights violations according to HRW and other international organizations.

        If you truly think that dozens of organizations with billions in funding, all these supranational organizations spanning the whole globe and every ideology and race are only targeting Israel because of anti-semitism, then I’m afraid to say, Betty, that you are the brainwashed one that should wake up.

      • bettyberenson on February 20, 2016, 12:16 pm

        This group of [..] movement of the Jewish people.

        Am Yisrael Hai.

      • Mooser on February 20, 2016, 12:21 pm

        Gosh, is there anybody, in the entire whole freakin world, who is better at meeting people on a person-to-person basis, establishing common ground, and giving people reasons to empathize and identify with their situation, than a Zionist?

        They never, ever start, from their first goddam comment, by pretending they are some kind of moral and intellectual aristocracy.

        But the best part is this: They seem to be completely unaware, blissfully ignorant, of the kind of response their approach is certain to inspire.
        Yup, Zionism is in good hands. No trauma for us! We’re handing out the trauma now! No polio vaccine for you!

      • MHughes976 on February 20, 2016, 12:23 pm

        Ms. Berenson’s first statement appeared to assert a point she considered simple, but now she speaks of complicated matters requiring study. She adds what are in the context not arguments but taunts about how we shouldn’t make things up – indeed we shouldn’t – but what have we made up? And about how great she feels when she gives financial support to something we find morally wrong. If people appeal to complexity I think they should point out where the complex question is. Complexity usually provokes different ideas as we seek to understand, so where there is a complex problem we shouldn’t be hasty in ascribing stupidity and prejudice.

      • Froggy on February 20, 2016, 1:31 pm

        bettyberenson :: “Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people.”

        Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people in the same way that National Socialism brought to France by the Nazi occupiers was the liberation movement of the French people.

        (You may not know this but during the Occupation of France the Nazis used to argue that they were saving France for the French by cleansing France of the Jewish element that they claimed was polluting French culture.)

        ” The Arabs are responsible for their own failures.

        The Arabs are responsible for their own failures in the same way that the Jews are responsible for anti-Semitism and black Americans were responsible for Jim Crow.

        “There should be no one killed because there was nowhere to go.”

        What you meant to say is this : “There should be no Jews killed because there was nowhere to go.”

        You needed to add ‘No goyim need apply’ because I don’t see Israel offering sanctuary to desperate refugees fleeing war, famine, and murder if those refugees are not Jewish. Israel only offers refuge to the desperate and destitute fleeing for their lives from such murderous places as Brooklyn, Philly, NYC, LA, and Boca Raton.

        Lady… If you’re going to hang out on MW you’ll need to do much better than that.

      • Jon66 on February 20, 2016, 1:47 pm

        Kay24,
        “Once the Koolaid wears off…”

        Small point, the Koolaid reference is to the Jim Jones cult suicide. The followers were so committed to the beliefs that they willingly drank the cyanide infused Koolaid and went to their deaths.

      • RoHa on February 20, 2016, 2:47 pm

        The history may be complicated but the basic outline is quite simple. In the nineteenth century, Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived more or less amicably in Palestine. Then a bunch of Europeans, the Zionists, decided to move in and take over the country. It took a bit of time, but they succeeded in stealing a large chunk of the country and killing, raping, and driving out most of the the native Muslims and Christians. And since then they have been regularly attacking the surrounding countries, and succeeded in seizing the rest of Palestine. So it is clear that the fundamental moral fault lies with the Zionists.

        “Yes, Jews have a right to our ancient and modern homeland.”

        I would love to see you produce an argument to show that Polish Jews have a greater right to Palestine than Welsh Christians, let alone a greater right than Palestinian Arabs of any religion.

        But I’m pretty sure you can’t.

      • MHughes976 on February 20, 2016, 3:16 pm

        Ms. Berenson’s remarks consist solely of slogans and abuse, with no arguments. The ‘national homeland’ slogan, particularly in this ‘uncomplicated’ rhetorical style, is a particularly contemptuous form of Nakba justification or indeed Nakba glorification. I cannot undesrstand why it is regarded as compatible with the.rules of Mondoweiss. I won’t even try to imagine the parallel words of holocaust glorification but I don’t think we shall see them here.

      • eljay on February 20, 2016, 6:16 pm

        || bettyberenson: This group of anti-Semites and knee- jerk anti-Israel propagandists does not have any power or honest intellectual abilities to label or judge Judaism or its homeland, represented by the great country of Israel, with Jerusalem as its historical and modern capital. … ||

        You’re so cute when you’re angry! :-)

        But you’re the one anti-Semitically conflating Judaism with Zionism (and vice-versa) and Israel with all Jews (and vice-versa). Why do you hate Jews so much?

        As for Jerusalem, it’s a Free City under military occupation by Israel. It is neither the historical nor the modern capital of Israel.

        || … Keep the anti-Semitic venom coming; it reflects more on you than it does on Zionism, the national liberation movement of the Jewish people. ||

        What reflects poorly on hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists like you is your willingness to co-op Judaism and the Jewish people for your (war) criminal action and your religion-supremacist “Jewish State” project. I ask again: Why do you hate Jews so much?

        || … Am Yisrael Hai. ||

        Am eljay. Hi! :-)

      • talknic on February 20, 2016, 7:44 pm

        @ bettyberenson >“The conflict in the Middle East is complicated, and takes a lot of study and thought”

        Rubbish. The Zionist Federation decided to colonize Palestine in 1897, they still support the dispossession and slaughter of non-Jews in Palestine and Israel

        “Yes, Jews have a right to our ancient and modern homeland”

        Rubbish. Israelis (Arab or Jew) have a right to live in the modern Jewish homeland State of Israel as it was proclaimed and recognized. http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf
        They do not have the right to illegally settle in non-Israeli territories the Israeli Government itself claimed on May 22nd 1948 were “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine” and held under Israeli military occupation.

        “The moment you make things up about the Jewish national homeland, and the Jewish people, it is a reflection on you”

        The Zionist bullsh*t you spout has no basis in fact

        ” Most people are capable of independent thought”

        The Zionist bullsh*t you spout shows you’re incapable. You have accepted as fact the Zionist lies and propaganda.

      • Mooser on February 20, 2016, 10:49 pm

        Shorter “berenson” : ‘The South will rise again!’

      • Mooser on February 20, 2016, 10:58 pm

        “Small point, the Koolaid reference is to the Jim Jones cult suicide. The followers were so committed to the beliefs that they willingly drank the cyanide infused Koolaid and went to their deaths.”

        Let’s hear it for the Masadadammerung!. “Jon66”, it is a very appropriate simile.

        And yes, it could very well refer to “Jonestown” (which is, it seems, the model for settlements) or it could refer to Ken Kesey and “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test”. You tell us, you big culture-meister.

        (And, BTW, believe absurdities, commit atrocities, you bet
        That is not what happened (everybody drinking cyanide for their beliefs) mostly they were shot by the settlement guard, errr.., I mean, Jim Jone’s goons.)

      • Mooser on February 20, 2016, 11:28 pm

        “I cannot undesrstand why it is regarded as compatible with the.rules of Mondoweiss.”

        Good question. It became apparent about a year ago that ordinary western moderation was not adequate to deal with Zionist comments. The only method which has proven effective is Transcendental Moderation. The moderator assumes the ‘Lotus’ position, and repeats the mantra (“Go-ahead-and-step-in-it, go-ahead-and-step-in-it) while pushing the “publish” button.

      • cfulbright on March 14, 2016, 3:14 pm

        Bettybereneson – you’ve hit the nail on the head. I’ve made the same realization in the past few months. If the “Palestinian” cause is just Arab nationalism – which it is – then why is it any different than Jewish nationalism? Why are only the Jews not allowed to assert a nationalist interest?

        The usual unspoken reasons, of course.

      • cfulbright on March 14, 2016, 3:16 pm

        RoHa – you must be kidding! How did Israel make enemies? You’d have to go back at least 3,000 years to answer that, and I don’t think you’d find a valid answer. The answer is that everyone hates the Jews, and Arabs and Europeans were murdering Jews long before 1948.

      • cfulbright on March 14, 2016, 3:51 pm

        I read these hate-filled lies in reply to bettyberenson and I would be shocked, except I’ve seen them so many times.

        Let’s take some of the lies:

        1. a foreign group took over land from the indigenous population and ethnically cleansed them – Palestinians aren’t indigenous, they’re Arabs. From Arabia. There wasn’t even a place called Palestine until the Romans killed most of the Jews, dispersed the rest, and renamed the province Syria Palestina. That word came from Philistine, and the Arabs claiming to be Palestinians certainly aren’t related to Philistines. Except in their acquisitiveness. Jews, on the other hand, have been living in Israel for over 3,000 years. And if you deny that, you’re just spouting anti-Semitic nonsense and aren’t worth the air you breathe.

        2. “Greedy, belligerent and intransigent Zionism” – of course the word “greedy” in there reveals the author’s anti-Semitism, because everyone knows that Jews are greedy. But “belligerent”? Israel has been attacked ten times and counting by one or more Arab countries that surround it, either by outright invasion in 1948 and 1973, naval blockade (which is an act of war) in 1956 and 1967, or cross-border attacks on civilians by the PA, Hamas, and Hizbollah. Every country is entitled to defend itself, even a Jewish one. But Israel is the only country that has won all its wars but is not supposed to claim any fruits from those victories.

        3. A religion-supremacist “Jewish State” was destructively carved out of Palestine – funny how these zealots are constantly referencing the UN, but forget that Israel was created with a UN resolution in 1947. “Palestine” at the time was a piece of the former Ottoman Empire for which the UK had been given a League of Nations mandate in 1919. It wasn’t a country.

        4. “Jewish State” is neither a sovereign nation nor a “home” – it is a religion-supremacist construct that has no right to exist. – but it does, both by the UN’s resolution and by its own success in defending itself. And why is a Jewish State so objectionable, when so many Islamic states and even Christian states in Europe are never mentioned?

        5. “invasion, theft and genocide” – The only invasions were Arab invasions of Israel. Israel took the West Bank and the Golan in 1967 after Jordan and Syria jumped into the Egyptian attack on Israel. Their mistakes. As for genocide, I have to laugh. How do 300,000 Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank in 1948 turn into 5 million Arabs in 2016 in a genocide? But please check the number of Jews remaining in Muslim countries.

        6. keeps killing unarmed civilians at the slightest opportunity – You’ve got to love that “unarmed”. At least count, 29 Israelis and 5 Americans have been killed by Arab terrorists via stabbing, shooting, stoning, and fire-bombing, and another 360 injured, and most of the casualties were civilians. The terrorists wanted every single one of those ~400 Israelis dead. In 2014 Hamas fired over 4,000 rockets into Israel, and if they’d been successful, more than 4,000 Israeli civilians would have died. That’s hardly unarmed.

        7. You needed to add ‘No goyim need apply’ because I don’t see Israel offering sanctuary to desperate refugees fleeing war, famine, and murder if those refugees are not Jewish. – actually Israel has taken in Christian refugees from Ethiopia. But please ask Saudi Arabia to take some of those Syrian Muslim refugees.

        8. I would love to see you produce an argument to show that Polish Jews have a greater right to Palestine than Welsh Christians, let alone a greater right than Palestinian Arabs of any religion. – Well, given the Polish Jews ended up in Poland because they were forcibly evicted from their own country by the Romans, and whereas Arabs only got to Israel in the 7th century with the Arab Muslim invasion, this one is pretty simple to refute.

        9. Nakba justification or indeed Nakba glorification – The “disaster” was a disaster for the Arabs because they attacked Israel in 1948 and again in 1967 and got their butts kicked both times. Don’t blame the Arabs’ own military failures on Israel. Was Israel just supposed to roll over and die? They did that during the Holocaust, and we saw how that turned out.

        10. But you’re the one anti-Semitically conflating Judaism with Zionism (and vice-versa) and Israel with all Jews (and vice-versa). Why do you hate Jews so much? – No, she didn’t. She said that “Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people”. And just as not all Muslims are Islamic nationalists, and not all Glaswegians are Scottish nationalists, so not all Jews are Zionist. But it displays your double standard. The PA and Hamas are just as nationalistic as is Zionism. You just prefer the Arabs for some reason.

        11. The Zionist Federation decided to colonize Palestine in 1897, they still support the dispossession and slaughter of non-Jews in Palestine and Israel – No, they supported resettlement in the ancient homeland of the Jewish people, and they were willing to buy land from Arabs to settle there. And exactly what slaughter of non-Jews has there been, given the Arab population has grown 1667% in 70 years?

        12. It became apparent about a year ago that ordinary western moderation was not adequate
        to deal with Zionist comments. – Wow. Usually I would have to go to a college campus to hear such anti-American/anti-First Amendment drivel. “Let’s just shut the Jews up.” Do you want me to give you a trigger warning with your Koolaid?

      • Mooser on March 14, 2016, 4:40 pm

        “Let’s just shut the Jews up.”

        This is nothing but the usual drivel, copiously dispensed by those slavishly addicted to a Western ‘rationalist’ mechanistic conception of the world. Those pallet-and-slider men, winding in their well-worn grooves in the age of tubular pneumatics…oh sorry, I’ve been reading Audsley. Vol. I and II.

        I beg you to notice, “cfulbright’, that in spite of being the inventor of the collar so often (and so justly!) associated with your distinguished moniker, you’ve got it back-asswards in this case.
        “Transcendental Moderation” allows many more comments than conventional, (so-called) “Western” moderation. Also yields a pure imitative string-tone.

      • MHughes976 on March 14, 2016, 4:58 pm

        I keep on wondering why the moderators proclaim but do nor enforce rules, such as the rule against Nakba glorification from Mr. Fulbright and the personal abuse which is permitted elsewhere.

      • Bumblebye on March 14, 2016, 5:27 pm

        cfulbright

        This comment is the equivalent of pavement pizza.

        You have no idea how utterly ignorant of the reality you are. Must be a Joan Peters fiction fanboy.

      • Stephen Shenfield on March 14, 2016, 6:15 pm

        bettyberenson: The Romanies (Gypsies) are widely persecuted. Surely they too deserve a state of their own in their ancient homeland — Punjab? (Here I assume that the theory of their origin in Punjab is correct; if you think they came from somewhere else, you can substitute a different ancient homeland.) What rights do they have in Punjab vis-a-vis the current (mainly Sikh) inhabitants?

      • talknic on March 14, 2016, 8:11 pm

        @ cfulbright “… Jews, on the other hand, have been living in Israel for over 3,000 years. “
        A) Some did. Amongst the other indigenous inhabitants. However, Jews have actually only ever been a minority in the region
        B) The Kingdom of David lasted a few hundred years max. The State of Israel has existed only 68 years. Palestine existed for at least the 2,000 years after the Roman era.
        C) Jewish history in the region has been as Palestinians , far longer than any Jewish regime.

        “Greedy, belligerent and intransigent Zionism” – of course the word “greedy” in there reveals the author’s anti-Semitism, because everyone knows that Jews are greedy”
        Antisemitism is specific to the hatred of Jews, not Zionism. The author didn’t say Jews, YOU DID! Like all idiot Ziopoopers you had to alter what was said!

        “Israel has been attacked ten times and counting by one or more Arab countries that surround it, either by outright invasion in 1948 and 1973”
        No Israeli territory has ever been invaded. There are no UNSC resolutions condemning anyone for attempting to expel Israeli forces from territories the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT said on May 22nd 1948 were territories were “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”

        naval blockade (which is an act of war) in 1956 and 1967
        A blockade can only exist (be real) if it is been enforced. No blockade on Israel has ever actually been enforced. BTW that makes the Israeli blockade on Gaza an act of war!

        ” Every country is entitled to defend itself, even a Jewish one. But Israel is the only country that has won all its wars but is not supposed to claim any fruits from those victories.”
        The acquisition of territories by war or any coercive measure has been illegal since at least 1933, http://www.cfr.org/sovereignty/montevideo-convention-rights-duties-states/p15897#art11 certainly by 1945 under the UN Charter.
        Schwebel, Lauterpacht, Herzog tell us that territories may be “restored’ by war, not ‘acquired’ by war. https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/UNISPAL.NSF/0/65A12B78BC3108A8052565FD0056A8BE

        ” Israel was created with a UN resolution in 1947. “
        It was created the moment the Israeli Government proclaimed its borders effective at precisely 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time) http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf

        ““Palestine” at the time was a piece of the former Ottoman Empire for which the UK had been given a League of Nations mandate in 1919. It wasn’t a country.”
        Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for PALESTINE (1922), tells us Jews could attain PALESTINIAN citizenship.

        Article 7 The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.

        Palestinian Nationality Law per the Mandate was adopted in 1945. Palestine was a Nation State by the time it was partitioned by default of Israel’s proclaimed borders 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time)

        “The only invasions were Arab invasions of Israel
        The bible tells us our Jewish forefathers invaded and created the short lived Kingdom of David. The Romans invaded. The Roman Empire disintegrated. Jewish folk who remained in the region lived as Palestinian Jews amongst the other indigenous people for some 2,000 years. The Ottomans invaded. The Zionist Federation began invading in 1897 in order to colonize Palestine. Jewish forces under plan Dalet were already beyond the borders proclaimed by the Israeli Government on the day they became effective. The Arab Regional Powers had a right to attempt to expel Jewish/Israeli forces from non-Israeli territories. The Israeli Govt tells us they invaded “Palestine” http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/MFADocuments/Yearbook1/Pages/5%20Arab%20League%20declaration%20on%20the%20invasion%20of%20Pales.aspx

        The Palestinians have never invaded

        “Israel took the West Bank and the Golan in 1967 “
        The acquisition of territory by war is illegal http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/b86613e7d92097880525672e007227a7/6de6da8a650b4c3b852560df00663826?OpenDocument and http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un497.htm

        “As for genocide, I have to laugh. How do 300,000 Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank in 1948 turn into 5 million Arabs in 2016 in a genocide? “
        By your criteria there was no Holocaust because now there are more Jewish folk

        “But please check the number of Jews remaining in Muslim countries”
        Countries at war have every right to expel or intern possible allies of their enemies. They have a duty to also allow their return after hostilities except if they have taken citizenship in a country other than that of return, thereby foregoing their refugee status and their right to return

        “keeps killing unarmed civilians at the slightest opportunity – You’ve got to love that “unarmed”. At least count, 29 Israelis and 5 Americans have been killed by Arab terrorists … etc “
        Doesn’t change the fact that far far more un-armed Palestinian civilians have been slaughtered by Israel

        ” In 2014 Hamas fired over 4,000 rockets into Israel, and if they’d been successful, more than 4,000 Israeli civilians would have died. That’s hardly unarmed.”
        But they weren’t successful and 4,000 Israeli citizens DIDN’T die.

        “ask Saudi Arabia to take some of those Syrian Muslim refugees”
        http://www.newsweek.com/gulf-states-are-taking-syrian-refugees-401131

        ” Arabs only got to Israel in the 7th century “
        Israel didn’t exist in the 7th century. Palestine did

        “The “disaster” was a disaster for the Arabs because they attacked Israel in 1948 and again in 1967”
        A) There are no UNSC resolutions condemning any one for attempting to expel Israeli forces from non-Israeli territories in 1948 B) UNSC res 228 of 1966 http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unres228.html tells us Israel was waging war before 1967

        “just as not all Muslims are Islamic nationalists, and not all Glaswegians are Scottish nationalists, so not all Jews are Zionist.
        So being against Zionism isn’t Antisemitism

        ” The Zionist Federation decided to colonize Palestine in 1897, they still support the dispossession and slaughter of non-Jews in Palestine and Israel – No, they supported resettlement in the ancient homeland of the Jewish people”
        They currently support Israelis to settle outside the state of Israel, in non-Israeli territories under Israeli occupation

        ” and they were willing to buy land from Arabs to settle there.”
        They buy ‘real estate’. Real estate is not territory. Chinese companies own real estate in Australia, they have no territorial rights. Israel paid NOTHING for its territory

        ” And exactly what slaughter of non-Jews has there been, given the Arab population has grown 1667% in 70 years?”
        By your criteria there was no Holocaust because now there are more Jewish folk

        It became apparent about a year ago that ordinary western moderation was not adequate to deal with Zionist comments . “Let’s just shut the Jews up.”
        Again you have to change Zionist to Jews

        YOU are deceitful and full of Ziopoop pal

      • eljay on March 14, 2016, 9:22 pm

        || cfulbright: … ||

        Wow, that’s a LOT of useless blather…and all at once, too! Congratulations on negotiating a paid-by-the-word contract with Hasbara Central. :-)

      • MHughes976 on March 15, 2016, 5:39 am

        In fact ‘Palestine’ is the only generally accepted name for Palestine as a whole properly attested for the pre-Roman period, the main but not the sole witness being Herodotus around 450 BCE. Genesis 20 has the Philistines in Palestine before Abraham.

      • bryan on March 16, 2016, 7:46 am

        MH – “Genesis 20 has the Philistines in Palestine before Abraham.”

        Don’t go there – because by doing so you will only encourage others to use the same erroneous and unhistorical source to demonstrate that snakes do talk, that Jericho had walls that miraculously fell down, that an ancient people escaped slavery in Egypt and that God makes eternal promises about real estate to mythical patriarchs.

        The earlier books of the bible (in the sense of being nearer to the title page, not in the sense of being written chronologically much earlier than the later books) are replete with falsehood, anachronism, and the superstitions and tribal myths of the time. The human authors, writing many, many centuries after the supposed life of Abraham simply assumed that features they were familiar with (such as Philistines, domesticated camels and a thriving spice trade) would also have been present in the early Bronze Age land that they were embroidering stories about.

        Regarding your substantive point that the Ancients knew the land as Palestine you are absolutely correct.

      • bryan on March 16, 2016, 8:09 am

        Fulbright – “naval blockade (which is an act of war)”

        Good to see, in the midst of your absurd diatribe, a condemnation of the Israeli strangle-lock of Gaza, even if it does somewhat contradict your denial of Zionism’s belligerent intransigence.

    • Jon66 on March 14, 2016, 9:17 pm

      Talknic,
      Apparently you can accept citizenship in another county and still be considered a refugee. A significant percentage of the registered Palestinian refugees worldwide hold Jordanian citizenship.
      “According to the Parliament Speaker Atef Tarawneh, since Jordan gave these Palestinian refugees citizenship, it should have a say in their future, whether in terms of return or compensation, or both.

      Jordan also insists that as a host country to 42 per cent of the world’s Palestinian refugees, its decades old effort must be recognised and compensated.

      Perhaps the official Jordanian position on the Palestinian refugees was best summarised by Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh’s statement when he chaired the UN Security Council this week: “Most of the refugees on our territory are Jordanian citizens in addition to their status as refugees, and it lies at the heart of our responsibilities to protect and restore their legitimate rights recognised by the international terms of reference pertaining to the peace process. As a host country, we, in turn, have rights for the burdens we have shouldered.”

      • talknic on March 14, 2016, 9:46 pm

        @ Jon66

        “Apparently you can accept citizenship in another county and still be considered a refugee”

        A) You’d have the protection, voting rights and everything associated with citizenship in that country and no longer have a need to seek refuge

        B) The UNHCR tells us

        The competence of the High Commissioner shall cease to apply to any person defined in section A above if:

        (a) He has voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of the country of his nationality; or

        (b) Having lost his nationality, he has voluntarily reacquired it; or

        (c) He has acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality; http://www.unhcr.org/3b66c39e1.html

        ” A significant percentage of the registered Palestinian refugees worldwide hold Jordanian citizenship.”

        Palestinians from and in what became the West Bank while it was under Jordanian Sovereignty (legally annexed at the request of the majority of the legitimate inhabitants) were by default Jordanian citizens. Refugees in Jordan from elsewhere in Palestine have never been granted permanent Jordanian citizenship.

      • Jon66 on March 14, 2016, 10:03 pm

        Talknic,

        UNWRA still considers those Palestinians with full citizenship as refugees in its census. Almost all Palestinians in Jordan have full citizenship. The number of official UN refugees in Jordan includes these citizens of Jordan.

        The webpage of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) states that: “All Palestine refugees in Jordan have full Jordanian citizenship with the exception of about 120,000 refugees originally from the Gaza Strip, which up to 1967 was administered by Egypt”; the latter being “eligible for temporary Jordanian passports, which do not entitle them to full citizenship rights such as the right to vote and employment with the government”. The US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants (USCRI) has reported of the preceding year, in its June 2009 World Refugee Survey, that while Jordan “hosted nearly 2 million Palestinians, all but 171,400 held Jordanian citizenship and USCRI did not count them as refugees”. Those within the 171,400 which the USCRI counted as refugees were: “Palestinians displaced from Gaza in 1967 [who] hold temporary Jordanian passports without national identity numbers, which are valid for two years” (‘Jordan Refugee Camp Profiles’ (undated), United Nations website http://www.un.org/unrwa/refugees/jordan.

      • jon s on March 15, 2016, 5:50 pm

        MHughes976,
        During the First Temple period the northern kingdom was known as “Israel” and the southern kingdom was “Judah”. Under the Persian Empire the province was called “Yehud” and , later, the Roman province was “Iudea”. Only after the Bar Kokhva revolt (132-135 CE) was the name changed to “Syria Palaestina”, as part of the reprisals for the revolt.

        You’re correct that Herodotus uses the term “Palestine”. I also know of an ancient Jewish source which refers to “Palestini”.

      • YoniFalic on March 15, 2016, 6:44 pm

        Usual Ziocrap propaganda.

        Greek-speaking Judeans (e.g., Josephus), members of Greek-speaking Judaic populations (e.g., Philo), and Greek-speaking pagans all referred to Judea as a region within Palestine long before the Romans are alleged by Zionist propagandists/fake scholars to have changed the name of the region to Palestine in order to punish Judean or Judaic populations.

      • echinococcus on March 16, 2016, 7:56 am

        Jon S,

        Anyone with even a shred of a shadow of classical education knows that Syria was a generally recognized geographic entity, divided in three parts, i.e. Coele-Syria, the Lebanon and Palestine. The small kingdom of Judea was a subdivision within Palestine, now fully forgotten.

        Your ridiculous assertion that the name of a piddly subdivision was “changed to “Syria Palaestina”, as part of the reprisals” is exactly like one of fellow Americans having visited “Africa, in the country of Nairobi”. The administrative redistricting that canceled the autonomy of the rebellious nasty little kingdom and attached it to the larger Roman unit is neither a name change nor some invention of a larger unit that had been there forever.

        Maybe a look into the section “the part and the whole” in any Logic 101 would help.

      • jon s on March 16, 2016, 5:00 pm

        The Romans initially installed Herod as a client-king. After his death , and the unsatisfactory performance of his sons, they changed the status of the country to that of a Roman province, known as Judea. (The famous Pontius Pilate was one of the governors). In 41 CE they installed Agrippa as client-king but after his death only three years later, they reverted to province-mode. In 66 CE the Great Revolt broke out, culminating in the destruction of the temple in 70 CE. In 132 -135CE the Romans suppressed another major revolt, led by Bar Kokhva. After that revolt the Romans adopted severe anti-Jewish measures: executing the spiritual leaders who had supported the revolt, banning the practice of the religion, re-building Jerusalem as a pagan city, and erasing the name Judea, replacing it with Syria Palaestina.
        All of this appears in any conventional textbook or historical atlas.
        For example:

        http://www.timemaps.com/history-of-ancient-palestine#herod

      • Mooser on March 16, 2016, 5:13 pm

        “The Romans initially…/… For example: “

        Is there a punchline to this joke? So freakin’ what?

      • echinococcus on March 16, 2016, 5:17 pm

        Is it a surprise that such an unprepared American ignorant should be in charge of teaching anything in the Zionist entity?
        Of course the Romans canceled the semi-autonomous kingdom, and the separate province, and made it into part of the larger country –whose name had been generally in use for many centuries already.

      • jon s on March 17, 2016, 3:06 am

        Echinococcus,
        Are you capable of discussing topics without resorting to personal insults?

        The term “Palestine” was indeed used by Herodotus, that’s undeniable.
        The term ” Judea” was also in use for centuries, as I showed. The Romans discontinued the use of the name “Judea” after the Bar Kokhva revolt.
        Please show me where I’m wrong on this.
        Or just reply with the usual personal attacks or insults.

      • jon s on March 17, 2016, 3:16 am

        Josephus spoke -and wrote!- Greek because he was an educated man of the upper class in the Roman world and Greek was the ” lingua franca” of the time. Also, he was writing for the non-Jewish audience, attempting to explain the background, beliefs and motivations of his people.

        Of course we can assume that he was also fluent in his native languages, Aramaic and Hebrew.

      • MHughes976 on March 17, 2016, 4:55 am

        On the whole I’d stand by the article that Phil kindly published here in June 2013 about ancient names and their implications – maybe I should have thought more about the Seleucid name ‘Coele-Syria’, mentioned by echino. I don’t disagree with much of what you say, Jon – I was just reacting to the idea that the name Syria-Palestine was plucked from nowhere by the Romans when they reorganised the area after 135. Israel Finkelstein’s article on the Expansion of Yehud is good. I think versions both of Palestine and Judaea appear in the Assyrian inscriptions, but I think it clear that Palestine came to have wider application. I think Josephus says that he wrote originally in Aramaic and supervised, no doubt at the expense of the Roman government whose main adviser on Jewish affairs he now was, the translation into Greek. This survived because Christians rather liked it, maybe for reasons that do them little credit.

      • echinococcus on March 17, 2016, 3:35 pm

        Jon S,

        Insults? Dunno, first it’s mainly factual; then, you are an enemy and I don’t feel particularly respectful.
        It’s so simple: Palestine, subdivision of Syria, i.e. Syria Palaestina, is the entire country between Lebanon and Egypt. Has been forever. Judaea (which seems to have changed names along with whoever happened to rule) was a part of it. Like the Bay Area is a part of California, or Orange County is a part of New York State (if you are familiar with the US.) As already said repeatedly. This should be clear enough, no?

      • echinococcus on March 17, 2016, 4:08 pm

        Jon S,

        PS

        Are you at all able to discuss like a normal human being, not a Zionist, always moving goalposts? Your last post states *correctly* that the official use of the name Judaea was discontinued after the fundamentalist insurrection (the Al Qa’ida of their time.) So, as I was answering in my response to your initial post, that subdivision was incorporated into the larger administrative unit, Syria Palaestina (along with other changes.)

        Your earlier posts said

        Under the Persian Empire the province was called “Yehud” and , later, the Roman province was “Iudea”. Only after the Bar Kokhva revolt (132-135 CE) was the name changed to “Syria Palaestina”, as part of the reprisals for the revolt.

        insinuating, in all logic, that the name was just invented or “rediscovered” and that it only applied to the Judaean subdivision of Syria Palaestina.
        And that’s what I responded to.

        You shouldn’t really expect people to stay polite to you with your kind of slithery behavior.

  4. pabelmont on February 17, 2016, 5:33 pm

    Interesting. A law FIRM must protect its business, just as a university must protect its donors-worthiness. Big-$$ has got everyone by the short and curlies. Maybe foundations would be immune if they were already fully funded and no longer sought new funds? Odd that Millbank was not willing to leave the $250,000 upon an understanding that it could vet how the money was spent (or how the spending of the money was announced) in future (plus removal from Facebook page). After all they were not asking to censor the event itself (already past) or any other event.

  5. wondering jew on February 17, 2016, 6:25 pm

    “This is a conversation the left has been unable to have for nearly 50 years now, since black power groups recognized the ’67 War as a war of aggression” sayeth Phil Weiss.

    I disagree with this facile characterization of the 67 war.
    Even if one were to accept this characterization of the 67 war, to offer this statement without the context of the times is to distort history.
    The black power groups, at the same time were kicking whites (mostly Jews) out of the movement and were soon to fire teachers from New York City schools. The black power groups were not necessarily antisemitic, but were in fact given to facile expressions of antisemitism and to characterize the left’s rejection of the black power groups on the issue of Israel without the context of the general animus of the black power movement towards Jews is to indulge in blog journalism without bothering about history.

    • Mooser on February 17, 2016, 7:13 pm

      “I disagree with this facile characterization of the 67 war.”

      That’s right! That certainly wasn’t the way they saw it at “Yonah’s” Black Panther chapter. (But I get it, “Yonah” the only reason the “black power groups recognized the ’67 War as a war of aggression”, as you go on to explain, was, well, the usual reasons.)

      “of the general animus of the black power movement towards Jews.”

      “Yonah” who has a fine tenor voice, will now sing a chorus of “What We Have Here is a Failure to…” whooops, sorry, wrong song.
      He will be intoning “Nobody Knows the Trouble I’ve Seen”, an old Jewish spiritual.

      Anyway, “Yonah”, thanks for your so-totally-not-facile characterization of the times.

    • a blah chick on February 17, 2016, 7:51 pm

      “…the left’s rejection of the black power groups on the issue of Israel without the context of the general animus of the black power movement towards Jews is to indulge in blog journalism without bothering about history.”

      Assuming this is true (and I don’t agree with it) how is that any different than leftwing Jews rejection of Palestinian rights?

    • RoHa on February 18, 2016, 4:48 am

      Yonah, that post is totally baffling.

      What bearing do the activities of black power groups in New York have on the question of whether the 67 war was a war of aggression or not? None that I can see.

      If it was a war of aggression, it was a war of aggression regardless of how anti-Semitic the black power groups may have been.

      In that case, if those groups recognized the 67 war as a war of aggression, they were acknowledging a truth. What relevance do their “facile expressions of anti-Semitism” have?

  6. RockyMissouri on February 18, 2016, 10:42 am

    Physically sick when I read the student’s letter, and to learn of their betrayal by the cowards of Milbank Tweed.

    Palestine matters. ????????

  7. lysias on February 18, 2016, 11:50 am

    Milbank Tweed is historically the law firm of the Rockefellers and of Chase Manhattan Bank.

  8. James Canning on February 18, 2016, 1:28 pm

    Calling upon Israel to end the occupation of the West Bank is not necessarily being “anti-Israel”.

  9. Boo on February 18, 2016, 6:34 pm

    It sounds as though Harvard simply needs to use a little bit more creative accounting so that the left hand and the right hand are less aware of what each other is doing. Harvard Business School, you paying attention?

  10. TwoRedDogs on February 18, 2016, 9:19 pm

    This may just be the start. Based on my read of Israeli press in recent months, the government is now in all out war mode.

    A university accepting funds with strings attached is a violation of academic freedom, and at a minimum, they should be forced to disclose it when it happens.

    And of course we just read about Jackie Mason on how Hollywood should blacklist supporters of Palestinians.

    “Jewish Donors: Stop Funding Anti-Semitism – Divest From Universities ”

    FEBRUARY 15, 2016

    Paul Bronfman is a hero to the Jewish people. He gave York University an ultimatum: Take down the anti-semitic mural within 24 hours or else I withdraw all support. As the chairman of Pinewood Toronto Studios, he had been supplying thousands of dollars of film equipment, technical services, and know-how to York University’s Cinema and Media Arts Program. They refused to take down the mural. And he followed through with his threat. He pulled money, production equipment, seminars, open houses with students, learning labs and training programs – everything!”

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jewish-donors-stop-funding-anti-semitism-divest-from-universities/

    • hophmi on February 19, 2016, 1:33 am

      Lol. Yeah. Like Harvard (and Georgetown and many others) don’t accept Saudi money with strings attached to teach Middle Eastern Studies with an Arabist slant. Anyone who thinks that Zionism has any control over academia is completely clueless. Exactly the opposite is true.

      • talknic on February 19, 2016, 7:55 am

        @ hophmi

        Denial in the face of incontrovertible evidence is one of the first signs of a systematic and pathological liar and abuser

        Keep up the good work. People need to see the kinds of people who willingly support Israeli war crimes

      • Mooser on February 19, 2016, 12:03 pm

        “Lol. Yeah. Like Harvard (and Georgetown and many others) don’t accept Saudi money with strings attached to teach Middle Eastern Studies with an Arabist slant.”

        Shorter “Hophmi”: ‘No Iftar dinner for you, Arabist slanters!’

      • Froggy on February 20, 2016, 12:22 pm

        hophmi :: “Anyone who thinks that Zionism has any control over academia is completely clueless.”

        Anybody who doesn’t think that Zionism controls academia hasn’t been on an American university campus lately.

  11. Bornajoo on February 20, 2016, 2:09 pm

    @bettyberenson

    Hey I really loved your comments. I was feeling a bit down and needed a good chuckle. You really are a comedy genius. Have you considered a career in comedy?

    I especially loved this line “The conflict in the Middle East is complicated, and takes a lot of study and thought”. Yeah that one really got me going. And just when I thought I was all out of laughter your comedic genius hit me with this gem:

    “Yes, Jews have a right to our ancient and modern homeland. It is a beautiful and thriving country. You should be honest anti-Semites: no technology or polio vaccines for you.”

    Brilliant! How on earth do you come up with this stuff? This is pure comedy gold.

    Thanks a million for the huge laughs. Can’t wait to read more.

    • a blah chick on February 20, 2016, 2:20 pm

      “Nuance” that’s another one they like to use.

      • MHughes976 on February 20, 2016, 3:27 pm

        Not that they seem capable of genuinely nuanced language, abc. I envy you yout ability to be amused, Born: I think that the dark comedy genre passes me by. I can’t manage even a grim smile.

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