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A Palestinian computer engineer has put together a chilling game for smartphones, which shows the struggle of Gazan civilians to survive Israel’s 2014 onslaught from the sky. The game came out in May.

Rasheed Abueideh and a team of several other designers spent the last two years designing Liyla and The Shadows of War. A family of three, a father, a mother and Liyla, run through the burning rubble of Gaza. He wants to provoke an emotional reaction from players. At first, however, Apple thought the game was political commentary and not game. They changed their mind, however, and now it is available on the App store.

“What’s the purpose of the game?”

An image from the game inspired by the four young Bakr cousins killed by and Israeli strike while playing on the beach in Gaza July 16, 2014.

An image from the game inspired by the four young Bakr cousins killed by and Israeli strike while playing on the beach in Gaza July 16, 2014.

“To make people cry,” he replied. “It’s to show the facts in the war and the effect of war on the civilians and on children.”

Abuiedeh, a 32-year-old Palestinian living in the West Bank, has designed some games before, but this is the first game of its kind related to Gaza.

The short game starts out with the player controlling a male character, who must jump deftly and run fast to avoid immediate death by bullet or drone or bomb. (Spoilers ahead).

The man’s first goal is to reach his house, where he finds his wife and their daughter, Liyla. The house is destroyed by a missile strike, and the three run off. The mother dies. The father tells Liyla that she is just sleeping. They continue on to the shore, where the game presents moral choices that end in Liyla’s death. Her soul, along with her mother and dozens of others, rise up from the ground as glowing blue figures.

Abuiedeh was not surprised that the App store tried to censor his game. He says it’s expected given the amount of misinformation the media produces about Palestine that ignores the colonial reality of conflict and occupation..

“They should be talking about the root causes of the conflict,” he said. “They [Israelis] came to our land and took it by the power of guns and support from the governments of the western world.”

Israeli white phosphorus over Gaza.

Israeli white phosphorus over Gaza.

I asked: “Do you think there should be one state or two,” I asked.

“Don’t get me into that. :)” he replied.

I really don’t like video games, but playing Abuiedeh’s game was memorable. The simple video game helps raise awareness of Palestinian suffering in an innovative way.

In its own way, the game presents an enviable fantasy for Gazans. Bullets and bombs destroy the player, but another life is just a click away. In the real world, there aren’t so many chances.

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  1. Boomer
    Boomer
    July 15, 2016, 5:39 pm

    I am glad that Apple decided to allow it. I hope Apple doesn’t change its mind.

  2. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    July 15, 2016, 6:53 pm

    Also for android.

  3. Marnie
    Marnie
    July 16, 2016, 1:08 am

    Considering what’s happening with facebook, my fear is the zionist govt suing Apple for this history lesson. I hope not. Are there any entities as cowardly as the zionist one?

  4. TonyRiley
    TonyRiley
    July 16, 2016, 7:24 am

    Obviously, if Hamas hadn’t started the wars, none of this would ever have happened.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      July 18, 2016, 12:34 pm

      Ha, ha.

      Surely, you’re being facetious. If not, you’re either a Zionist zealot/nut bar or grossly and inexcusably ignorant.

  5. olive52
    olive52
    July 16, 2016, 2:06 pm

    strange way to make a few bucks

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 17, 2016, 12:08 am

      Strange that’s what you take away from it ‘olive52’.

    • Boo
      Boo
      July 18, 2016, 1:10 pm

      Particularly strange considering that the download is free.

  6. jon s
    jon s
    July 17, 2016, 3:38 pm

    I don’t suppose that the game includes any mention of the terrorist rockets fired at innocent civilians in Israel, or the Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 17, 2016, 4:00 pm

      I don’t suppose…/…their own people. – See more at: Any standard Hasbara site.

      I see the “Israeli history teacher” is here.

      So now they are only “innoncent civilians” “Jon s”? They used to be Jews “returning to their historic homeland”?
      What happened? Now they just happen to be there?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 18, 2016, 12:15 am

      I know you’re down under in Beer Sheva but you’d really have to have your head in the sand not to notice the zionist love fest played 24/7 on almost all MSM in the west and of course where we live. And that’s where it really counts isn’t it? Why do you insist on inserting your version of history anywhere outside the reach of the zombies and zombets in your classroom? Try to keep the stupid contained dude.

      Let’s see, the death toll from 2014 war on Palestinian civilians yielded +2200 dead Palestinians and 72 dead israelis (I believe 66 IOF [..] and 6 civilians – I think one was a foreign worker from Thailand? who in my mind was the only civilian casualty in ‘israel’).

      The israeli’s killed since October, since the zionist state decided to go all ‘friction activity’ on Palestinians right around Muslim holy days and the obvious blow back from that still didn’t result in deaths of any ‘innocent’ israelis because there are no civilians in israel but for the Arab-israelis who’ve never worn an IOF uniform.

      This is a history lesson for people who are interested in the truth, not Netanyahoo’s lies. Or yours.

      (Who’s using your ID jon s – or have you become entirely radicalized by the israeli right and it’s rape happy rabbis?)

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 18, 2016, 8:10 am

        || Marnie: … there are no civilians in israel but for the Arab-israelis who’ve never worn an IOF uniform. ||

        I disagree. IMO, there are plenty of Israeli civilians in Israel*. Unfortunately, it seems that many (most?) of them are hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists who believe that people who choose to be Jewish are entitled:
        – to Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine; and
        – to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

        Thankfully, not all Israelis are Zio-supremacists. The hope for a better future for I-P lies with them.
        _____________________
        (*There are also plenty of Israeli civilians who, like jon s, live in occupied territory outside of Israel’s / Partition borders.)

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 18, 2016, 12:23 pm

        Thanks for your thoughts.

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 18, 2016, 1:26 pm

        || Marnie: Thanks for your thoughts. ||

        You’re welcome! :-)

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      July 18, 2016, 12:36 pm

      Hopefully, the game makes reference to Israel’s illegal occupation of the Gaza Strip, i.e., horrific “collective punishment” per the Fourth Geneva Convention, binding on all UN members.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      July 18, 2016, 12:45 pm

      Jon s

      Utter nonsense.
      There is no credible evidence whatsoever to support your contention that Hamas uses “hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.”
      Indeed, your accusation was dismissed by the Goldstone Report, which also accused Israel of using Palestinians as “human shields.”

      Furthermore, regarding Israel:

      link to reuters.com Reuters, 6/20/2013

      “Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel” by Stephanie Nebehay

      Excerpts:
      “A UN human rights body accused Israeli forces…of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

      “Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, captured by Israel in the 1967 war, are routinely denied registration of their birth and access to health care, decent schools and clean water, the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child said.

      ” ‘Palestinian children arrested by (Israeli) military and police are systematically subject to degrading treatment, and often to acts of torture, are interrogated in Hebrew, a language they did not understand, and sign confessions in Hebrew in order to be released…’ ”

      “Kirsten Sandberg, a Norwegian expert who chairs the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, said the report was based on facts, not the political opinions of its members. ‘We look at what violations of children’s rights are going on within Israeli jurisdiction,…’

      ” ‘Hundreds of Palestinian children have been killed and thousands injured over the reporting period as a result of (Israeli) military operations, especially in Gaza…”

      “It voiced deep concern at the ‘continuous use of Palestinian children as human shields…’ ”

  7. jon s
    jon s
    July 18, 2016, 7:08 am

    Marnie,
    Are you serious? There are no innocent civilians among the Jews in Israel? You don’t recognize any such category?? Do you understand what you’re saying or are you so blinded by hate that you don’t care?
    I fully identify with the Left. Being on the left means -among other values – seeking peace, seeking an end to violence and bloodshed, not justifying terrorism.

    And the kids in my classroom are not zombies. They’re more into vampires.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      July 18, 2016, 7:34 am

      Duh. I am completely serious. The Thai worker who was killed was an innocent civilian.

      The left, as you like to call it, is just a low fat version of the right. Barely noticeable at all these days. Jayzus do you even read the paper or watch the news (local??).

      Do you identify with this left? Video: Asking Israelis to mark the Nakba on Independence Day – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/israelis-israeli-independence/#sthash.VQwAVBpk.dpuf.

      Or this left?
      By Social TV +972
      |Published July 15, 2016
      WATCH: What Israelis think about cutting off water to Palestinians

      These ‘leftists’ have no problem with water being cut off to Palestinians and think that before they recognize the nakba, Palestinians have to recognize israel (seriously, still?). You are most definitely on the israeli left. You aren’t a civilian either. Neither am I. And you are apparently too stupid to see the truth in that. The zombies/zombets/vampires are monsters all the same.

      If you give a sh#@$ about Jews, tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 18, 2016, 8:07 am

        I’d also add that your feigned shock is pretty disingenuous. I haven’t yet met any israeli Jew who doesn’t believe that all German civilians during the reign of Adolf Hitler were nazis themselves and not innocent of anything. They were all guilty. What was good for them, eh?

        Netanyahoo was soooo dramatic when German politician Martin Schulz asked a question in the knesset, speaking the only language he could, German, which had been fine until he question the reported shortages of water for Palestinians, but not settlers (A West Bank water crisis for Palestinians only | +972 Magazine It’s okay to speak German unless you ask an embarassing question to the knesset. 972mag.com/a-west-bank-water-crisis-for-palestinians-only/99058/

        Members of knesset ‘stormed’ out in anger.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 18, 2016, 1:06 pm

        “I fully identify with the Left.”

        “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and, goddamit, people like me”

        “Jon s” is the Stuart Smalley of Zionist commenters. Always whining for or demanding validation.

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 18, 2016, 1:20 pm

        Marnie,
        So 4 year old Daniel Tragerman was not an innocent civilian?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 18, 2016, 1:25 pm

        “So 4 year old Daniel Tragerman was not an innocent civilian?”

        You know what is so sad, “Jon s”? What is so f–king sad is that he was an “innocent civilian” until you dragged his little corpse out to use as a shield.

        And I’m sure Danial Tragerman was happy to sacrifice himself for that.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 19, 2016, 12:30 am

        Jon s

        Get yoiur smelling salts ready grandma and ‘clutch your pearls’ –

        4-year-old, 13-year-old,___-year-old have been made martyrs for the settlement process and zionism.

        As someone wise once said, ‘if only Zionists loved their children more than they hate Palestinians’……….

        Spare me your fake sorrow and crocodile tears. You happily sacrifice other people’s children to the god of the settlements and zionism. Then you expect the rest of us to go along with it and when we don’t, we’re full of hate? You act as though everything you say and do is normal and will continue without consequences. Then you scratch your head and can’t figure out why it’s not working? You’re not a good student of history.

        And still, with all this back and forth, not one bit of recognition of the continued murder and maiming of Palestinians – not very ‘left’ of you.
        (Palestinian youth was shot 9 times ‘accidentally,’ Israeli army says
        Israel/Palestine
        Kate on July 16, 2016 – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/palestinian-accidentally-israeli/#sthash.U15krKx2.dpuf

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 20, 2016, 12:40 pm

        Marnie,
        I asked you a simple question – was 4 year old Daniel Tragerman not an innocent civilian ?- which you have chosen to dodge.
        Instead you accuse me of being indifferent to Palestinian suffering (not true) , of supporting the settlements (which I oppose), and even accuse the kids in my classroom- whom you’ve never met and know nothing about – of being “monsters”.
        I truly feel sorry for someone so consumed by hatred.

      • annie
        annie
        July 20, 2016, 1:15 pm

        jon, over 500 children were killed in israel’s 2014 summer slaughter, and yet the death of this one child has garnered dozens upon dozens of news articles about him — plus, with specific mentions (by name) in many many more. why might that be?

        I truly feel sorry for someone so consumed by hatred.

        and yet wasn’t that your whole point, to incite? to use the death of this one child to incite anger? why this particular child when others names go unnoticed and unmentioned? why not this 70 year old woman listed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict#Israeli as one of the “5 israeli civilians” who died as a result of the war? here is the news article referencing to her death: http://www.timesofisrael.com/elderly-man-seriously-injured-in-rocket-hit-near-ashdod/

        this woman, her name is not even mentioned — just “A woman in her seventies collapsed and died on Friday of heart failure while running to a shelter in Wadi Nisnas” — no name, why is that?

        or what about the death of 32-year-old Ouda Lafi al-Waj, from an unrecognized Bedouin village — a vulnerable community the israeli government does not provide bomb shelters for. why not him? he too was on that brief list of israeli civilian casualties.

        what makes tragerman’s death so special that people keep repeating his name and his death over and over? do you have any idea?

        jon, among other things, i’m noting your overused hasbara tactic of assigning hatred to your ideological adversary, it is a really cheap form of argument and i don’t believe you feel sorry about it for one minute. i believe this is your intent, to incite. and i believe you are using the name and death of this particular child as a tool of incitement. cheap jon.

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 20, 2016, 3:46 pm

        Annie,
        You’re ignoring the context of the exchange with Marnie.
        She wrote that the only innocent civilians in Israel are Israeli Arabs (and also granted the Thai man who was killed the title of innocent civilian). That’s why I asked about Daniel Tragerman, a Jewish child.
        My impression is that some -not all – MW commenters are , indeed, motivated by hatred. I wish I was wrong.

      • annie
        annie
        July 20, 2016, 4:34 pm

        she RESPONDED to your genocidal incitement. your BS claims hamas intentionally tried to have innocent palestinian killed. i mean please!!! the ol “he’s killing his own people’ meme. you don’t think we can play that game? hasbrats go ballistic when we mention little settler children being used as human shields for israel colonialist agenda. that little 13 year old girl? she was plopped down right in the middle of the longest running festering grotesque human rights wound on the planet, and by whom i might ask? by a bunch of brainwashed nutcases trying to take over land in the name of god — in the name of their so called “ancestral homeland” they’ve been brainwashed into caring about. you know why i know? because when i was thirteen years old i wouldn’t have know j-sh*t what my so called “ancestral homeland” even was, much less care abut it. so why don’t you think about our dog wagging press — humping little innocent Daniel Tragerman (right along with yourself) over and over and over played like the strings on a violin to serve your colonialist goals. he’s not my victim, i’m not using him repeatedly like a worn out wh*re to serve my agenda, if he’s anybody’s victim he’s yours and the israeli governments. go look in the mirror, you killed him. zionism killed him. don’t lay that on marnie. you use the kid like a red flag to dangle in front of our faces and chastize us? give us a break.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 20, 2016, 4:32 pm

        “My impression is that some -not all – MW commenters are , indeed, motivated by hatred. I wish I was wrong.”

        Well, there you go!
        We’re all motivated by hatred.
        What do you think you should do about it “Jon s”?
        Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei “hooray”?

        Or you can keep waving that 4 yr. old’s corpse at us until it comes apart in your hands. “Kibbutz of Nahal Oz, belonging to Shaar Hanegev regional council, resides near … Grants and benefits: Tax benefits for permanent residents as settlers in Gaza…” .

      • annie
        annie
        July 20, 2016, 5:14 pm

        German politician Martin Schulz …. Members of knesset ‘stormed’ out in anger.

        marnie, not sure if you read my MW coverage of that incident where i cited the german press which disclosed more than what was covered by israel (US press completely ignored it as i recall):

        It appears some Israeli MKs are unaware of the gross discrepancies between water allocations in the areas under their purview.  Haaretz reports EU President Schulz was accused of “blatant” and “lying propaganda“, “selective hearing” as well as incitement “against Jews” during a session in the Knesset today when he repeated a question from a Palestinian youth alluding water usage in Israel was several times that of occupied Palestine and questioned if it was true:

        “A Palestinian youth asked me why an Israeli can use 70 cubic liters of water and a Palestinian just 17,” he said. “I haven’t checked the data. I’m asking you if this is correct.”

        This claim came as a surprise and shock to some members of the Knesset! Indignant, Habayit Hayehudi [Jewish Home] party leader Naftali Bennet demanded an apology and walked out with his party’s MKs in tow.

        MK Moti Yogev (Habayit Hayehudi) called to Schulz: “Shame on you, you support someone who is inciting against Jews.”

        “The comments made in the Knesset are very serious,” said party chairman Naftali Bennett. “Habayit Hayehudi demands an apology from the president of the European Parliament, who said two lies in his speech, which Palestinians fed him. Silence in the face of lying propaganda grants legitimacy to activities against Israeli citizens.”

        MK Itzik Shmuli of Labor has filed a complaint to the Knesset’s ethics committee, saying the walkout was “in contempt of the Knesset.” Meretz leader Zahava Gal-On said she objected to the damage done to the Knesset as an institution.

        Culture and Sports Minister Limor Livnat, of Likud, supported the walkout.

        “Give him all due respect, but the president of the [European] Parliament stands here and says a blatant lie as though Israelis have the right to use 70 cubic liters of water and the Palestinians 17 cubic liters,” she said.

        Netanyahu accused the EU President of “selective hearing”. German press website DW reported Bennett immediately took to his Facebook page:

         “I will not tolerate duplicitous propaganda against Israel in the Knesset … and especially not in German.”

        And Likud MK Moshe Feiglin also took to facebook expressing his refusal to attend the speech altogether stating it was  “inappropriate” to give a speech in German at the Knesset because:

        “the language used when our parents were thrust into the railway wagons and in the crematoria.”

        More from DW:

        In his speech, Schulz also said “the Palestinians have the right to self-determination and equality,” and that they want to “live in peace and have unlimited freedom of movement,” which he said they are denied in Gaza.

        Shortly before his Knesset speech, Schulz had complained of sensitivity in Israel against criticism from Europe. “Mutual criticism is quite normal in a democracy,” he told Israeli journalists. “The EU stands by its special relationship with Israel, but that does not mean that it has to agree with every decision of the Israeli government,” stressed Schulz.

        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/02/during-speech-knesset/#sthash.gvtmKz8v.dpuf

      • amigo
        amigo
        July 20, 2016, 5:29 pm

        ” I truly feel sorry for someone so consumed by hatred. ” jon s

        Yeah , we know, you oppose the (illegal –my addition–you left that out ) settlements, but continue to post from one .You are like the rapist who condemns rape in public but then goes home for his fix (which he keeps in the cellar)and then sleeps soundly –what with all that energy expended after a long day yelling , “down with rapists.” .

        It would be comical , were it not so grotesque.

        In any case judging by your posts above , I think it is all getting to you and you are re-finding your true self.

        Can,t say I feel sorry for you.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 20, 2016, 10:29 pm
      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 21, 2016, 8:38 am

        Jon s –

        I didn’t stutter dude.

        I don’t play this game, you phony.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 21, 2016, 9:12 am

        Annie –
        I remember reading about this incident with Martin Schultz in +972. I probably read your piece. Hysterically funny that the german language only became problematic when it was used to ask about the water situation. Netanyahoo’s tirade was classic and hysterical, predating the infamous stare down at the UN, but cracked me up “I will not tolerate this duplicitous” blah, blah, blah…..”and especially not in german”.

        He is clueless. I imagine it’s even more distressing for a Palestinian who doesn’t understand hebrew, to have the phlegm-inducing pronounciation of the letter ‘chet’ screamed in his or her face.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 21, 2016, 12:28 pm

        One last thing Jon ssssssssssssssssssssssss

        Why is this particular 4-year-old boy’s death the ultimate tragedy? Why is Jewish blood more precious than anyone elses? In particular, the 4 little boys playing on the beach in Gaza, targeted by the IOF and murdered. Or the toddler boy with the beautiful eyes and smile, wearing his brains on the outside of his skull, thanks to a drone. Or any number of men, women and children murdered weekly, if not daily, as noted on Katie’s blog here at MW.

        The parents of these zionist children are directly responsible for their deaths. Period. It is about Arabs hating Jews (please) or Islam v Judaism. It is now and has been for 70 years only about the greed and blood lust of zionists. That’s it. There’s nothing more to it. It’s greed that is driving this situation here, nothing more. The Palestinians had most of the land when the zionists decided to occupy it. Now they have the most people on the least amount of land. It is a slow process of extermination.

        And you expect weeping and wailing for israeli children whose parents put them in the line of fire? Seriously? They should all be thrown in jail for child abuse.

    • gamal
      gamal
      July 18, 2016, 8:02 am

      “I fully identify with the Left.”

      “or the Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.”

      there seems to be no evidence to support either of these claims, did a nucleus tell you?

      If you are unable to see that in your second para you are repeating a self serving racist slur on a par with Golda’s ‘if they loved their children’ crap and as free of evidence as same, Hamas don’t use their extensive military bases to launch missions, the PAF is still on the ground because they don’t exist, like the evidence to back either of your claims,

      do you ever stray over to Kates column as a leftist, if you want to play the humanizing game Joni first you must be human, you know demonstrably so, not a bloodless little genocidaire like you.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 18, 2016, 12:59 pm

      “Being on the left means -among other values – seeking peace, seeking an end to violence and bloodshed, not justifying terrorism”

      That’s why “Jon s” lives in an illegal settlement. He’s going to prove to us that people with leftist values can be settlers, too!

      And as far as “the kids in your class” go, we’ve had plenty of time to look at your pedagogical methods conversing here. Or do you use an even lower standard with the kids. Want to point us to your syllabus, “Jonny”?

      Funny, this video game spurs him to multiple comments. Rabbi Qarim, well, not so much.

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 18, 2016, 1:37 pm

        jon s loves to talk about (seeking) “peace” because to Zio-supremacists like him “peace” means that Israel:
        – gets to keep as much as possible of what it has stolen;
        – is absolved as much as possible of its past and on-going (war) crimes and of its obligations under international law; and
        – gets to remain a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”.

        Zio-supremacist “peace” does not include justice, accountability or equality.

  8. jon s
    jon s
    July 18, 2016, 1:27 pm

    gamal,
    Are you seriously saying that Hamas did NOT use hospitals, mosques, schools…? Really?
    I recall personally posting such evidence two years ago.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 18, 2016, 1:43 pm

      “I recall personally posting such evidence two years ago.”

      Yes, “Jon s” when we want disinterested, objective history based on universally humane values, we know right where to go.

      And there’s a not-very-nice name for people who say that Jews can be swayed, or even made to prevaricate, out of what they consider their vital self-interest. That’s ordinary people, not us, 200 million strong, and growing.

      “I recall posting such evidence…”

      Oh yeah, almost forgot: ROTFLMSJAO You recalled something about the archives being truncated.

    • gamal
      gamal
      July 18, 2016, 2:11 pm

      “I recall personally posting such evidence two years ago.”

      of course you recall such, Jon why wouldn’t you well today’s another day Jon, I am sure Adam will fish them out of the archives for you, is he not flesh of your flesh, if he had a nucleus would he not divide it and give you half etc,

      you wrote

      “with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.”

      so and Arabic is fine do you have the Hamas policy statement indicating that this is their deliberate “strategy” (tactic would have been better) why do you insist on making a fool of yourself, extraordinary claims Jon require just a little evidence and your own self serving lying interpretations and ‘memory’ don’t really cut it.

      do you remember the missiles being loaded on a red crescent ambulance (stretchers), Gaza in under a suffocating cloud of drones, do you not see that your claim can not be proven, because its ridiculous,

      i note you write of Palestinian civilians and “innocent Israeli civilians” you really are very poor at this.

  9. jon s
    jon s
    July 18, 2016, 3:57 pm

    gamal,
    You’re right: Palestinian civilians are also innocent (and long-suffering…)
    I find it hard to believe that anyone could deny what Hamas was doing, it’s pretty much common knowledge by now . Anyway, I managed to find some of the items I posted at the time:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmQpiUvS2PQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FtKU6f6ogA

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fb5_1407300669

    • gamal
      gamal
      July 18, 2016, 5:28 pm

      so for you that establishes “its” what ” it’s pretty much common knowledge by now” that ” Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.”

      and Jon your second clip has a Memri equivalent where that ladies words are translated for the audience here, you could at least have provided a transcript, in the Memri clip they don’t say anything about hospitals or houses but claim Hamas is hiding behind her which makes them Nazi’s Memri tells us,

      that is your ‘evidence’ which proves your absurd thesis, you can shoot a Palestinian girl on camera result nothing you can beat and curse a smashed Palestinian child on the road on camera, shoot an injured boy in the face on camera result nothing, but you think Palestinians sacrifice Palestinians to …..what is the strategy again Jon spell it out man.

      that is what you have? mtv generation indeed.

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 20, 2016, 1:08 pm

        gamal,
        You want the”Hamas policy statement? “OK, I assume your joking.
        During the conflict in 2014, and also previously , the Hamas terrorists used hospitals, clinics, schools, kindergartens, mosques and civilian residences as launch sites, weapons depots, tunnel entrances, etc. They knew that by doing so they were endangering those facilities and their own people.
        I posted 3 links (from non-Israeli sources)
        One is from Finnish TV. If you know someone who knows Finnish you could check the accuracy of the translation.
        The second, from French tv, is my favourite, because of the startled reporter when the rocket is launched.
        The third, also from French tv (English language service), shows preparations to fire from a civilian area, with children playing nearby.
        I’m sure that there are other such videos on the web, feel free to look for them.

        I have to ask you again, gamal, are you really saying that Hamas did NOT do so? It’s not really in dispute.

      • annie
        annie
        July 20, 2016, 1:50 pm

        and speaking of cheap incitement jon what is this, the way you entered this thread:

        or the Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.

        jon, this is blatant gross incitement. is there no place, no shelter from your insensitivity? is there no place to grieve the death of palestinian children without your incessant hasbara?

        shows preparations to fire from a civilian area, with children playing nearby.

        gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth and the entire place is a blockaded civilian area. a big israeli prison set up to shoot fish in a barrel. claiming a palestinian intent to purposely kill their own people as well as continually denying israeli intent to purposely kill palestinian civilians (with overwhelming evidence to the contrary) are both blatantly cheap incitful propaganda ploys. why are you engaging in the BS? why mouth either of these platitudes of rtwg nationalist genocidal hasbara under the cloak of “liberal zionism”?

        you sound like pam geller or someone of her ilk. seriously, leave it alone. go to another thread and quit spamming this one.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 20, 2016, 2:46 pm

        I’ve got to say, “Jon s” is doing his best to truly represent, and identify fully with the Israeli Left!
        Why, I would bet there hardly anybody in Israel or the occupied territories more Israeli Left than “Jon s”.

        But hey, you’ve got to forgive “Jon s” for being so determined to spam the thread. He’s from Beersheba, where they always get their kicks in.
        Maybe kicks just keep getting harder to find in Beersheba, so he comes here. You just don’t find that many wounded Eritreans lying on the ground, waiting to be gang-kicked into eternity these days.

        “you sound like pam geller or someone of her ilk.”

        BTW, he drops the Stuart Smalley act when he’s talking to “gamal”, doesn’t he? He don’t need no validation from him

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 20, 2016, 3:55 pm

        Annie,
        “claiming a palestinian intent” -that’s not what I wrote, I wrote about Hamas. And yes, Hamas willfully endangered their own people. (while trying to kill Israelis).

      • annie
        annie
        July 20, 2016, 4:23 pm

        “claiming a palestinian intent” -that’s not what I wrote, I wrote about Hamas.

        don’t play games with me. it’s the same empire drizzle of ‘killing their own people’ used to brainwash americans to convince them to invade other countries all the time.

        you do know hamas won the last election both in gaza and the WB? how is that not “a” palestinian intent — what next, claiming your favorite “terrorists” are not palestinian? they are palestinians for sure!

      • jon s
        jon s
        July 20, 2016, 4:07 pm

        And I’ll obey Annie and leave this thread.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 20, 2016, 4:53 pm

        “And I’ll obey Annie and leave this thread.”

        And it’s so sad,too.

        Your impression is that some -not all – MW commenters are , indeed, motivated by hatred. You wish you were wrong. But you’re not. So you will leave.
        But what’s a thread, “Jon s”? A bit of this, a bit of that…

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 20, 2016, 6:26 pm

        || jon s: … And yes, Hamas willfully endangered their own people. (while trying to kill Israelis). ||

        And Zio-supremacist Jews and the religion-supremacist “Jewish State” have been willfully endangering Jewish people for the past 70 years (and counting) by engaging in terrorism, ethnic cleansing, oppression, torture, murder, occupation, colonialism and sundry (war) crimes in their names.

        I would like to see the endangerment and injustices resolved through the application of justice, accountability and equality.

        But you, like all Zio-supremacists, prefer to see a resolution based on a “peace” that:
        – allows Israel to keep as much as possible of what it has stolen;
        – absolves Israel as much as possible of its past and on-going (war) crimes and its obligations under international law; and
        – allows Israel to remain a religion-supremacist state.

      • gamal
        gamal
        July 20, 2016, 6:39 pm

        “BTW, he drops the Stuart Smalley act when he’s talking to “gamal”, doesn’t he? He don’t need no validation from him”

        you think he discriminated me?

      • gamal
        gamal
        July 20, 2016, 6:41 pm

        “And I’ll obey Annie and leave this thread.”

        Annie a total Israeli withdrawal well done.

      • gamal
        gamal
        July 21, 2016, 9:49 am

        “You want the”Hamas policy statement? “OK, I assume your joking.”

        no not at all do you not think such things exist, do you believe Hamas could follow an unstated informal policy, how, by osmosis? they are very open about strategy, i have a link but it will require reading its not video of vile Arabs whose turpitude is obvious to any but the irredeemably hateful,

        you need to start using that god given mind Jon, Hamas let us consider, the author is one Hroub, come on Jon don’t discrimnate us man thats just ignorant. (i think in short hemingway bits of sentences strung together with comma’s, i am the doyen of illiterates) enjoy

        http://www.palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/41752

  10. annie
    annie
    July 19, 2016, 12:17 pm

    thanks wilson dizard. i’d never heard of this game before. i see it was recently mentioned in the NYT “Standouts in Mobile Gaming” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/technology/personaltech/standouts-in-mobile-gaming.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

    NUMEROUS video game titles were showcased at the E3 industry show last week, and many exhibitors emphasized mobile gaming. I recently looked through some app stores to find games that are innovative, beautiful and meaningful.

    One that fits that bill is Liyla and the Shadows of War, which is free on iOS and Android. At first glance, this looks like a traditional two-dimensional platforms-and-ladders game, albeit with dark and moody graphics and a bleak soundtrack. But it is far from typical.

    Based on true events in Gaza, Liyla and the Shadows of War places you in control of a family trying to traverse a war-torn urban landscape and survive. You leap from level to level, beat obstacles and avoid threats. By giving the silhouetted family a personality, adding threats like sniper fire, drones and missiles, and adding burning cars to the landscape and desperate cries and frantic breathing to the soundtrack, the developer Rasheed Abueideh has created an app that is more of an educational experience than a game.

    The mood captures some of the horror of conflict in the region and may emotionally affect players or observers. My 7-year-old son, an accomplished gamer, watched me play for a while and said the game was different because it felt “very sad.”

  11. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    July 20, 2016, 5:30 pm

    compared to the west bank in which security needs and settler presence are intricately intertwined, the conflict between israel and the palestinians vis a vis gaza is quite easy to “solve”. of course the solution would satisfy neither side, but it would involve a hamas ruled gaza with limited sovereignty, but nowhere near the current siege, far greater flow of people and goods in and out, but with more limits than palestinians would like to see.
    it is my impression that it is primarily domestic politics that stops netanyahu from pursuing and reaching an agreement between israel and gaza.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 20, 2016, 10:39 pm

      “compared to the west bank in which security needs and settler presence are intricately intertwined,”

      Oh, absolutely, “Yonah”. Let’s see if we can untangle this intricate intertwining.

      The more settlers, the more trouble and the more security needed.

      Or maybe the settlers are the security? That means every settler of any age, is a soldier for the occupation.

      Which description of the “intricate” intertwining do you prefer, “Yonah”?

    • eljay
      eljay
      July 21, 2016, 7:23 am

      || yonah fredman: … the conflict between israel and the palestinians vis a vis gaza is quite easy to “solve”. of course the solution would satisfy neither side, but it would involve a hamas ruled gaza with limited sovereignty, but nowhere near the current siege, far greater flow of people and goods in and out, but with more limits than palestinians would like to see. … ||

      Yup, it’s easy to see how giving limited freedom and limited sovereignty to a subset of Palestinians in a subset of Palestine would be unsatisfying to their Zio-supremacist “Jewish State” overlords.

      || … it is my impression that it is primarily domestic politics that stops netanyahu from pursuing and reaching an agreement between israel and gaza. ||

      It is my impression that it is primarily his status as the hateful and immoral King of All Zio-supremacist Jews that stops Netanyahu from pursuing anything other than Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 21, 2016, 4:48 pm

        ” it is my impression that it is primarily domestic politics that stops netanyahu from pursuing and reaching an agreement between israel and gaza.”

        Of course it is! Netanyahoo knows that any Israeli Prime Monister who threaten Israel with peace might get shot down like a dog.

        And what frickin “politics” “stops”, Netanyahoo? He, and all of his cabinet, have made their feelings and policies quite clear.
        The “politics” are quite clear: The settlers, and the settlement project rules Israel.

        No matter what you fabricate or imagine, “Yonah” there is a real Israel over there, and everybody can see what it is doing.

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