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Before there was ‘fake news’ there was Judith Miller

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Current theater critic and Fox News commentator Judith Miller is undoubtedly best known for her fact-free reporting on Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction” for the New York Times that helped create the pretext for the 2003 war in Iraq. So it was rather odd yesterday when Miller criticized President Obama’s decision to commute the sentence of Chelsea Manning by wondering, “How many people died because of Manning’s leak?” The quick answer is none, but the internet wasn’t going to let Miller off that easy.

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  1. HarryLaw on January 18, 2017, 2:23 pm

    Maybe there is a medical condition associated with this woman’s lack of awareness. Someone should remind her that before she goes to sleep tonight, just remember the one million dead and the grieving millions her lies caused. But then her condition might mean she also does not care.

  2. Mooser on January 18, 2017, 3:20 pm

    That Miller woman, I am sad to say, is missing something between the neck bone and the follicles.

  3. Keith on January 18, 2017, 5:25 pm

    KEITH OLBERMANN- “Judith Miller’s inability to recognize the fact or breadth of her own body count is one of the great rationalizations of history”

    I think that Keith Olbermann and Judith Miller have more in common than either would care to admit. When it comes to irrational insanity nothing tops Olbermann’s pre-Electoral College “coup” rant.

    I link to a good discussion of the bogus intel report and “fake news” propaganda blitz involving Chris Hedges, Abby Martin and Ben Norton.

    • Citizen on January 18, 2017, 7:56 pm

      Not that matters, but aren’t both Olbermann and Miller of German extraction? Key in Churchill quote…at your neck or at your feet
      No. Did ‘The Times’ Leave Judy Miller Out in the Cold Because She Was Jewish? Asides from an Angry Bill Kristol
      OTOH, Olbermann is German

    • Sibiriak on January 21, 2017, 10:44 am

      KEITH: When it comes to irrational insanity nothing tops Olbermann’s pre-Electoral College “coup” rant.

      Yep. Off his rocker.

      Cf. “Clinton Democrats In No Position To Call Themselves ‘The Resistance’

      Figures like failed Clinton surrogate Neera Tanden and melodramatic jester Keith Olbermann bellow about the failures of the Republican Party and Trump while calling themselves “the resistance.”

      Olbermann even has a video series for GQ called “The Resistance,” where he has a complete meltdown during each episode, screaming at viewers—until he’s nearly breathless—about the Russians in the attic.

    • Sibiriak on January 22, 2017, 4:16 am


      On the lighter side–but arguably more serious:

      With such an eventful week, Saturday Night Live had a lot of options for their first show under President Trump. They chose wisely, with Beck Bennett as Vladimir Putin giving “a paid message from the Russian Federation”.

      The show’s take on the Putin/Trump relationship – a manipulative dictator and his oblivious puppet – is much clearer than their perspective on many other areas of Trump, and the very concept of the sketch says more than many of Baldwin’s supposed barbs.

      Topless as always, Putin promised Americans that everything will be okay because Russia loves the US: “It’s the most expensive thing we’ve ever bought.”

      This version of Putin is not entirely enamoured with Trump, taking a swing at the president’s CIA speech, the attendance records at the inauguration versus the Women’s March, and Kellyanne Conway’s patriotic inauguration outfit.

      As is her way, Kate McKinnon stole the stoplight as a stereotypical Russian woman who appeared to stoically defend Putin before being handed a fish and gasping: “My pension!”, and later sneaking into the background at the end of the sketch wearing a pink pussy hat in solidarity.

      The premise is false, and the stereotyping deeply ignorant– but apparently it’s quite funny:

      “Overall, it was a very good episode, up there in Tom Hanks territory.”

      • Keith on January 22, 2017, 4:09 pm

        SIBIRIAK- “On the lighter side–but arguably more serious:”

        Indeed. We appear to have a unique situation. There is a power struggle among the elites. As such, most of the messages must be viewed as a part of the information battlefield in which both sides compete to sell their narrative. Let me set the stage with a truncated quote of Herman Goering on how to sell a reluctant population on war.

        “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.” (Herman Goering)

        The neocon led imperial war mongers are pushing the narrative that Putin’s Russia is an existential threat. Further, that he is attempting to seize political control of the US. Under this scenario, any attempt to reign in NATO and improve relations with Russia is tantamount to treason. With the liberal media pushing this narrative, Trump is boxed in to continue aggressive militarism.

        Trump is attempting to change the narrative. First, he is emphasizing that he puts America first, no one more committed to American well being than him. Smart move. Next, he says that NATO needs to be reevaluated to reflect changes. Many NATO members not paying their fair share. Uncle Sam will not continue to be Europe’s patsy. Under Trump’s scenario, NATO, as currently organized and funded, is an unfair burden on the American worker. Those who wish to continue business as usual are enemies of the US working class. If Trump can sell his narrative, he may have room to maneuver.

        The consequences under the current narrative are fairly obvious. The consequences under Trump’s narrative could prove interesting. NATO members picking up the tab for a US controlled mercenary army? Goodbye NATO. Perhaps. At the very least, bankrupt Ukraine can forget about membership. All of the new Eastern European members? Greece? Italy? This could get interesting.

        I don’t know how all of this will play out. Conceivably, it could be a dream come true. Or not. The critically important point is that there is a battle of narratives going on which will have a huge impact on future events. A flat out propaganda war. The Deep State has more resources, but Trump is more wily than I would have thought. There are more examples but this comment is long enough. Peace. Hopefully.

      • Sibiriak on January 23, 2017, 8:19 am

        A fact is a fact — if enough legislators say it is:

        Bill would require teaching of California students about Russian interference for Trump

        Assemblyman Marc Levine, D-San Rafael, said he is introducing a bill to require the State Board of Education to develop curriculum to ensure “all California students will learn how the Russian government conspired to influence the United States Presidential Election to elect Donald Trump,” according to his office.

        “The work of 17 intelligence agencies including the FBI and CIA confirmed Russian interference in our election,” he said. “This is a threat to our democracy and must be treated with appropriate significance in American history.”

        * * *
        “California is the largest textbook market in the nation,” he said. “Textbooks approved in our state are used throughout the country.”

        * * *
        “Through this legislation,” he said, “we can make sure students in California and across the United States receive accurate information about the 2016 Presidential election.” [emphasis added]

      • Sibiriak on January 25, 2017, 3:33 am


        Russia is targeting French, Dutch and German elections with fake news, EU task force warns “

        The EU is reportedly allocating more funds to its East StratCom task force to counter the disinformation, amid fears Russia will target elections in France, Germany and the Netherlands

        * * * *
        […[East StratCom, set up by the EU in 2015 to counter Russian propaganda and disinformation, says it has already found evidence of a massive fake news campaign targetting European countries.
        * * * *
        […]“The aim of this disinformation campaign is to weaken and destabilise the West, by exploiting existing divisions or creating artificial new ones.“Often, outright lies are deployed, aimed at denigrating a particular person, political group or government.“Another strategy is to spread as many conflicting messages as possible, in order to persuade the audience that there are so many versions of events that it is impossible to find the truth.”

        * * * *
        Most Russian disinformation in the EU is spread by “domestic actors” who independently repeat talking points that first appear on Russian state news outlets because it suits them ideologically, said Jakub Janda, a deputy director of the European Values think tank in Prague…

        […]He singled out Milos Zeman, the Eurosceptic president of the Czech republic, as an example of a high-ranking European politician who “copy pastes Russian messaging and helps Russian foreign policy by repeating its talking points on Syria and Ukraine”. [emphasis added]


        “Domestic actors” who independently repeat talking points that first appear on Russian state news.

        OMG! I think is know some of those bastards!

  4. gingershot on January 18, 2017, 5:29 pm

    Judith Miller – a true ‘Israeli Lobby-fake news’ heroine

  5. gingershot on January 18, 2017, 5:39 pm

    Let’s compare Arnon Moses to a US media owner like Dan Abrams, let’s compare the corruption case against Netanyahu to what the Israeli Lobby does to the US media owners

    The amazing thing to me currently is the clear parallels between the bribery cases against Netanyahu with Arnon Mozes and the coereced suppression (worse than what Bibi was doing to/with Moses) of the American media regarding reporting on Israel and Palestine

    The US media has already had done to it (to the level of full spectrum dominance/corruption/intimidation) the same kind of CORRUPPTION that the Israel Media is starting to have (though to a lesser degree than the dominated US media)..

    Let’s indict or question the ‘Arnon Moses’ of the US media world for corruption – like Dan Abrams or any of the other owners of the media venues

  6. oldgeezer on January 18, 2017, 7:51 pm

    Somethings improve age. Often hindsight can improve ones graps on reality often once we look back at oir actions we can make changes within ourselves and take steps to do better in the future.

    None of this applies to Miller. She still has no grasp on reality. It seems rhat qualifies her to work at fox news. (Not that any other US channel seems to have much of a grasp on reality or truth)

  7. RoHa on January 18, 2017, 10:50 pm

    “Before there was ‘fake news’ there was Judith Miller”

    I don’t know much about this person, but I do know about fake news, and I know it long preceded her.

    Fake news was old news when Waugh wrote Scoop! and Humbert Wolfe wrote:

    You cannot hope to bribe or twist
    (thank God!) the British journalist.
    But, seeing what the man will do
    unbribed, there’s no occasion to.

    A fine article by John Pilger:

    Particularly depressing part for me:
    A few years ago, Terry Eagleton, then professor of English literature at Manchester University, reckoned that “for the first time in two centuries, there is no eminent British poet, playwright or novelist prepared to question the foundations of the western way of life”.

    No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today. Harold Pinter was the last to raise his voice. Among today’s insistent voices of consumer-feminism, none echoes Virginia Woolf, who described “the arts of dominating other people… of ruling, of killing, of acquiring land and capital”.

    And more about lies here.

    As for truth, I’ve quoted this before, and I will again.


    The Master said, “… A superior man, in regard to what he does not know, shows a cautious reserve. If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music will not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish, punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot. Therefore a superior man considers it necessary that the names he uses may be spoken appropriately, and also that what he speaks may be carried out appropriately. What the superior man requires is just that in his words there may be nothing incorrect.”

    Analects 13:3

    • Mooser on January 19, 2017, 5:45 pm

      “no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism”

      Yes, Carlyle was pretty sure who was at the bottom of the financialization of capitalism!

  8. ritzl on January 19, 2017, 1:30 am

    Annie pointed out to me on twitter that Miller was FOR the release of Jonathan Pollard who was an actual spy-for-pay for Israel and actually DID get people killed.

    Good article.

  9. Citizen on January 19, 2017, 5:05 am

    The Source of the Trouble–JudithMiller’s Original “Fake News” On Iraq WMD:

    Details how and likely why she was allowed to be a loose cannon in editorial halls.

  10. RobertHenryEller on January 19, 2017, 8:37 am

    Even before Judith Miller worked at Fox News, she worked for Fox News.

  11. kschuber on January 19, 2017, 8:44 am

    “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” Albert Einstein

  12. Elizabeth Block on January 19, 2017, 12:08 pm

    This comment by Judith Miller provides us with a new definition of chutzpah. (My previous one: Spiro Agnew pleading no contest to a charge of accepting bribes, and then asking the Maryland Bar Association not to disbar him, because he hadn’t been convicted of a criminal offense.)

  13. annie on January 20, 2017, 1:18 am

    i responded to her tweet right after she posted it too 2:54 PM – 17 Jan 2017

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