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David Halbfinger produced a fine piece of reporting for the New York Times this weekend, an article addressing the death of the two-state solution and Palestinians’ recognition that they have begun a struggle for equal rights in one state. Why– there might even be a Palestinian prime minister one day.

The article quotes Palestinian leaders who are giving thought to what a one-state future would look like. That outcome is “dominating the discussion,” says Mustafa Barghouti. While Saeb Erekat says Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital “was the death knell for the two-state solution.”

Halbfinger speaks plainly about what a real democracy would look like between the river and the sea:

Palestinian supporters envision one state with equal rights for Palestinians and Jews. Palestinians would have proportionate political power and, given demographic trends, would before long be a majority, spelling the end of the Zionist project.

And an informant states what Ali Abunimah has long said, the two-state solution is a mask for apartheid:

“When you support the two-state solution, you’re supporting Netanyahu,” said As’ad Ghanem, a political science lecturer at the University of Haifa.

The report violates an article of faith among American leaders: There must be a two-state solution; and by the way, the Jewish state will not survive if Palestinians can vote. So yesterday morning an eminence, Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, jumped in to try and make the article go away.

Haass tweeted:

Israel cannot remain 1) Jewish; 2) democratic; 3) secure; and 4) prosperous in a single state. Israel and its supporters should embrace a 2 State outcome before it is too late not as a favor to Palestinians but as a favor to itself.

New York Times columnist Nick Kristof chimed in, and tried to stand up for the grim reality described in the article:

I agree. But I’m losing hope in a two-state solution. Israel should understand that if it isn’t prepared to give Palestinians a state any time soon, it should give them voting rights and other equal rights.

Haass objected: 

But given the demographics that would mean the end of Israel’s Jewish character. That is precisely why Israel cannot have it all and oppose a Palestinian State.

And Kristof was compelled to endorse the two-state solution after all.

Yes, I agree. Israel has been able to have its cake and eat it too, indefinitely delaying. That’s why it should be pushed to clarify and embrace either two states or a democratic single state. I hope this can encourage it to accept a second state, and not drag this out forever.

Haass again:

Israel’s true friends should fight the trends undermining the potential for a 2 state solution. The Trump administration sees itself as a friend of Israel but has done nothing to halt the drift; in fact, it has contributed to it w its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital

The tweets demonstrate how much disdain the Establishment has for justice for Palestinians.

Richard Haass of Council on Foreign Relations

The dialogue is all about Israel. Anything to bring about justice would be for Israel’s sake, not for the sake of justice. The two men speak of the need to push Israel against its “drift,” but what is a drift that has gone on for 70 years, and what is their position on the only pressure that Israel seems to care about, the Palestinian call for boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS)? They are surely opposed.  The well-meaning New York Times columnist worries that Israel might not “give” Palestinians a state “any time soon.” It is hard to imagine a more hollow endorsement of Palestinian rights, when Palestinians have been discriminated against and ethnically cleansed under Israeli sovereignty for more than 70 years.

That is the truth that both men are denying: that Israel has crushed Palestinian human and civil rights from the start. That is the Zionist Rubicon that the establishment still cannot cross. Because if you were to state that Israel should be transformed for the sake of justice, you’d be saying, A Jewish state is unjust by its nature.

It is essential to cross that Rubicon. Because until establishment voices are able to speak that truth in the United States, we’re never going to have justice in Palestine, let alone an honest discussion here.

No doubt finding a solution for Israel’s segregation and discrimination would save Israel. But that’s like saying that ending apartheid in South Africa brought salvation for white South Africans. Yes it did; by ending an evil order that whites had created. But saving South African whites was secondary to the main story of South Africa: 90 percent of the population finally got their rights and some semblance of justice.

Admitting that Israel needs to change for the sake of Palestinians, not Israeli Jews, is to admit that for 100 years Zionism has been an awful deal for the indigenous population. And you can’t say that in the U.S. establishment evidently. These men are, consciously or not, reflecting bigotry against Palestinians.

Youssef Munayyer said it shorter: 

Why should Palestinians being afforded basic rights be subject to Israel first resolving its identity crisis on its own time and not something demanded by a country that seeks to lead the world on freedom?

P.S. Halbfinger’s reporting is what we long sought from his predecessor as Times bureau chief, Jodi Rudoren, without avail. Rudoren was never able to approach the Zionist Rubicon by raising reasonable questions about that article of faith, the two-state solution. And meantime she spoke to one Zionist group after another, Hadassah, JCC, AJC.

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30 Responses

  1. John O on January 7, 2018, 11:28 am

    Lovely photo of Kristof taking a selfie of himself all alone in the room. The expression on the baby’s face speaks volumes.

  2. eljay on January 7, 2018, 12:30 pm

    … Haass tweeted:

    Israel cannot remain 1) Jewish; 2) democratic; 3) secure; and 4) prosperous in a single state. Israel and its supporters should embrace a 2 State outcome before it is too late not as a favor to Palestinians but as a favor to itself.

    Although they may care for justice, accountability and equality elsewhere, Jewish supremacists (Zionists) don’t care about justice, accountability or equality in I-P.

    All that ever matters – even to the “kinder, gentler” liberal Zionists – is Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine.

  3. Maghlawatan on January 7, 2018, 3:17 pm

    Israel is not rational. If it wanted to survive as a state it would not have started the settlements. The logic of the settlements is that the Palestinians do not exist. Simples. This is a military area.

    But this is not the real world . It is a fantasy.
    Israel at some point has to yield to Palestinian Rights. Or die .

    Haas is pretty reasonable and the issue is staring him in the face. But Israel holds its fingers in its ears and screams “I can’t hear you . Na na na”.

    This is how systems collapse.

    • Talkback on January 7, 2018, 4:45 pm

      Maghlawatan: “If it wanted to survive as a state it would not have started the settlements.”

      Well “survival” and settler colonialism don’t go well together.

      Israel’s deputy foreign minister inherently claims that Israel is not a safe haven for Jews, but rather the US. He has “accused American Jews of living “convenient lives” and not understanding how it feels to be “attacked by rockets.””

      Maybe he should tell them how it feels to oppress Nonjews.

      • annie on January 7, 2018, 5:46 pm

        talkback, Tzipi Hotovely, israel deputy foreign minister, is a she. just thought i’d mention.

        her whine, about american jews not understanding how it feels to be “attacked by rockets”, reminds me of the danger of california earthquakes. sometimes people on the east coast will call after we have one and ask if we are alright. and we live with the consideration that we could fall into the pacific at any time. the quake line is only about 30 minutes from my house. but it’s a constant, there’s always the chance an earthquake will happen (big one in berkeley the other morning). but the chance of getting hit by a rocket or killed by a rocket, is probably about the same as getting hurt, or killed, by an earthquake.

        but i see what she means, others just have no idea how hard it is for us californians to live with these earthquakes. they don’t have to suffer like we suffer, knowing at any time, we could just break off into the pacific or have our loved ones killed by one of these earthquakes. we are always at risk. (so please, fund californians today.)

      • Brewer on January 8, 2018, 1:37 am

        Rockets, smockets, for every 15 people killed in the conflict, 13 are Palestinian and two are Israeli.

      • annie on January 8, 2018, 1:11 pm

        brewer, where did you get that statistic?? and your graph conveniently stops 7/2014 w/under 200 dead. where’s the 2 thousand plus palestinians who died that summer? i seriously doubt “for every 15 people killed in the conflict, 13 are Palestinian and two are Israeli”. but whatever.

        i think you missed the point of my comment, which had an element of mocking that you missed. fyi, that chance of dying in a california earthquake is much higher than an israeli being killed by one of the thousands apon thousands of palestinian militant rockets. i think about 30-35 israelis have died so far from one of those rockets. and you know what? people are moving to california in droves and i know exactly no one who worries about being killed in an earthquake (albeit, when they are happening it can be very very scary). this “they don’t know what it’s like to be attacked by rockets” is propaganda. most israelis have never even been attacked by a rocket. more of them have been in car accidents than “experienced” being attacked by a rocket.

        “We’re afraid of earthquakes because they make us feel out of control. We can’t control the earthquake

        whereas, a palestinian living in the occupied territories there is a very very high risk of “experiencing” being attacked, detained, imprisoned, or tortured during ones lifetime. very high.

      • Brewer on January 8, 2018, 1:49 pm

        Probably a bit too flippant of me Annie. Grabbed that chart from:
        I had been trying to find the number of Israelis killed by lightning strike or some similar unlikely occurrence to compare with the number killed by rockets – which was about 2.7 per annum for the ten years 2001 – 2011 (much fewer since).
        I used to compare the road toll (400 deaths p.a) to give perspective.
        ….is always good for the totals.
        Israel always publicizes the number of rockets rather than the casualties as the death toll is so small. I also like to point out that the rockets are aimed at land that is still legally owned by the senders. For quite a while I couldn’t figure out the rationale behind them. Then I read the History of Sderot and realized that the rockets’ purpose is to discourage the growth of settlement on stolen lands.

  4. HarryLaw on January 7, 2018, 3:51 pm

    It is inconceivable that the Israeli leadership has not considered the implications of a one state solution, Naftali Bennett advocates self governing Palestinian enclaves in parts of areas A and B with no Palestinian sovereignty or representation in the Knesset. Area C which comprises 60% of the West Bank with few Palestinians would be annexed by Israel, if the Palestinians refuse they will be compelled to accept [I presume like Gaza]. I don’t think many Palestinians would accept this state of affairs, even if the US, EU and Saudi Arabia crammed their mouths with gold. It is estimated that the Palestinian population between the river and the sea will be roughly equal by 2017 and palestinians will be in a majority in the very near future Many Israelis [including Netanyahu] have the notion that they can have it all and continue the settlement enterprise, only very recently announced the building of 3,000 more homes in the West Bank Netanyahu said Israel will live by the sword, does he have the death wish?

    • Misterioso on January 8, 2018, 10:52 am


      More grist for the mill:

      “Already now, there live between the sea and the river, in the Greater Israel of the dream, according to the last count (July 2016): 6,510,894 Arabs and 6,114,546 Jews. The Arab birthrate is bound to fall, but so will the Jewish one, except for the Orthodox.)”
      (Uri Avnery, “The Man Who Jumped,” Dec. 30/17)

  5. on January 7, 2018, 4:43 pm

    Bigots discussing what’s best for the favoured ruling elites while glossing over the grievances or wants of the primitive indigenous people.

    Instead of championing international law, condemning Israeli crimes against humanity and showing some sympathy for all the suffering endured they speak of what’s best for a jewish Israel. Disgusting bigots in tailor made suits and crisp white shirts.

  6. Brewer on January 7, 2018, 4:59 pm

    Concepts in collision – Jewish State and Democracy. The outcome is inevitable, precedents abound.
    Paradoxically, the greater the push-back from the United States of USrael, the swifter the advent of collapse.
    The Geopolitical scene is now vastly altered, the change brought about by Israel’s attempts to destabilize surrounding States has galvanized the East. Every day the broad alliance that stretches from Russia to China becomes tighter and more formidable.
    I still predict collapse from within. As Israelis begin to comprehend the very clear-sighted and increasingly unified forces that encircle them, they will bow to the inevitable.

  7. JosephA on January 7, 2018, 7:43 pm

    Where are the sane, rational voices in the mainstream media to counter this bullshit theory that a country can remain a “Jewish Democracy”?

    Last time I checked, there were no “Christian Democracies”.

    Either you are a Democracy, a Theocracy, military dictatorship, monarchy, etc., but make up your damn mind!

    Israel certainly has an identity crisis, given that the state was conceived out of thin air by displacing the native Palestinians. There are many European, Russian, and to a much smaller extent middle eastern Jews there, not to mention the existing and indigenous Christian and Muslim Palestinians, as well as atheists on both sides.

    Without support from the USA, Israel as a nation would have imploded long ago.

  8. JLewisDickerson on January 7, 2018, 11:59 pm

    RE: “Israel’s true friends should fight the trends undermining the potential for a 2 state solution. The Trump administration sees itself as a friend of Israel but has done nothing to halt the has contributed to it with its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.” ~ Haass

    ■ TAKE HEED:
    MacArthur’s Park Dream Castle Israel is melting in the dark
    All the sweet, green icing flowing down
    Someone left the cake out in the rain
    I don’t think that I can take it
    ‘Cause it took so long to bake it
    And I’ll never have that recipe again
    Oh no!

    • JLewisDickerson on January 8, 2018, 12:41 am

      P.S. ALSO SEE:
      “Reality Check: Heavy-handed ‘hasbara'” | B y Jeff Barck | Jerusalem Post | January 7, 2018
      • Boteach’s tirade against Lorde provides more oxygen for BDS.

      [EXCERPT] Last month, the government approved the allocation of NIS 260 million to set up a non-profit organization, in conjunction with deep-pocketed Diaspora donors, to combat anti-Israel deligitimization and the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement in particular.

      The brainchild of Strategic Affairs and Public Diplomacy Minister Gilad Erdan (does nobody in government see the irony of having the internal security minister, Erdan’s main hardline role, also the face of soft, public diplomacy?) this new organization is meant to provide fast and furious responses, unshackled by any government approval system, to combat attempts to smear Israel’s name.

      Imagine, one unnamed official told Yediot Aharonot, what would happen if immediately after Lorde’s move (the immensely popular singer recently canceled a performance in Tel Aviv following pressure from the BDS movement), she was the target of an Internet campaign and full-page adverts in leading international newspapers. This is something, the official went on to say, the government can’t do, hence the need for this new organization.

      Well, we’ve just had our first taste of such activities and my advice to the Diaspora donors (this government is a lost cause) is to find a cause more worthwhile for their donations.

      In one of the most embarrassing attempts ever at pro-Israel advocacy, publicity hound Rabbi Shmuley Boteach (remember his stint as Michael Jackson’s unofficial spiritual adviser?) followed the guidelines laid down above and published a full-page advert in The Washington Post, calling the 21-year old a “bigot.”

      In the wordy, rambling tirade protesting Lorde’s willingness to perform in Russia “despite [Russian President Vladimir] Putin’s support for Assad’s genocide in Syria” but not Tel Aviv, the American rabbi proclaims, among other things: “Let’s boycott the boycotters and tell Lorde and her fellow bigots that Jew-hatred has no place in the twenty-first century.”

      And then, after having accused Lorde of antisemitism, Boteach turns his ire on New Zealand . . .

      . . . The fact is though, as long as the occupation continues and deepens, protests against Israel and pop-star concert cancellations will continue, no matter how much money the government pumps into to hasbara efforts that are clumsy and ineffective at best, harmful at worst.

      • The writer is a former editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post.


    • JLewisDickerson on January 8, 2018, 1:48 am

      P.P.S. On Sunday, January 7, 2018, the Israeli government published a list of six US organizations, including CODEPINK, and 20 organizations worldwide whose activists will be barred from entering the country because of their support for the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement (BDS) in favor of Palestinian rights.

      Included on the list is the American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker organization honored with the 1947 Nobel Peace Prize for assisting and rescuing victims of the Nazis. It is also one of the first US organizations to stand up against segregation in the United States. The six banned U.S. groups are:

      • American Friends Service Committee
      • American Muslims for Palestine
      • CODEPINK
      • Jewish Voice for Peace
      • National Students for Justice in Palestine
      • US Campaign for Palestinian Rights

      This is a disgraceful attempt to silence global voices working to stop the oppression and violations of international law against the people of Palestine.

      ► Join CODEPINK in calling on influential Senators Chuck Schumer and Ben Cardin to denounce this outrageous ban and tell Israel to lift it immediately. ~

      ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂✂

      The full list

      European organizations:

      ■ The France Association Palestine Solidarity

      ■ BDS France 

      ■ BDS Italy

      ■ The European Coordination of Committees and Associations for Palestine

      ■ Friends of Al-Aqsa

      ■ Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign

      ■ The Palestine Committee of Norway

      ■ Palestine Solidarity Association of Sweden

      ■ Palestine Solidarity Campaign

      ■ War on Want

      ■ BDS Kampagne

      American organizations:

      ■ American Friends Service Committee

      ■ American Muslims for Palestine

      ■ Code Pink

      ■ Jewish Voice for Peace

      ■ National Students for Justice in Palestine

      ■ US Campaign for Palestinian Rights

      Other groups:

      ■ BDS Chile

      ■ BDS South Africa

      ■ BDS National Committee

      read more:

    • JLewisDickerson on January 8, 2018, 3:47 am

      Jimmy Webb – MacArthur Park

  9. HarryLaw on January 8, 2018, 6:37 am

    In many ways Trumps recognition of Jerusalem does recognize a certain reality, the reality that countries the US are aligned with, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other GCC countries talk so much hot air, so that whatever they say in public is undermined by other state institutions, so that when Abbas was summoned to SA, he was told the unvarnished truth, that Israel was not the enemy, Iran was, and their survival as medieval dictators with vast fortunes to spend in European brothels and casinos depended on that fact. Abbas had to accept that reality without being hung upside down by his feet.
    “According to Palestinian, Arab and European officials who have heard Mr. Abbas’s version of the conversation, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman presented a plan that would be more tilted toward the Israelis than any ever embraced by the American government, one that presumably no Palestinian leader could ever accept.
    The Palestinians would get a state of their own but only non contiguous parts of the West Bank and only limited sovereignty over their own territory. The vast majority of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which most of the world considers illegal, would remain. The Palestinians would not be given East Jerusalem as their capital and there would be no right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants”.
    How is that a great deal different from the Bantustan project the Israelis have in mind?
    The US/Israel know the Arabs weaknesses and can seemingly divide them easily.
    “As President Trump moved last month to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, an Egyptian intelligence officer quietly placed phone calls to the hosts of several influential talk shows in Egypt.
    “Like all our Arab brothers,” Egypt would denounce the decision in public, the officer, Capt. Ashraf al-Kholi, told the hosts.
    But strife with Israel was not in Egypt’s national interest, Captain Kholi said. He told the hosts that instead of condemning the decision, they should persuade their viewers to accept it. Palestinians, he suggested, should content themselves with the dreary West Bank town that currently houses the Palestinian Authority, Ramallah”.

    • Rob Roy on January 8, 2018, 2:41 pm

      Harry Law,
      You wrote: “…when Abbas was summoned to SA, he was told the unvarnished truth, that Israel was not the enemy, Iran was, …” Were you just repeating something someone else said, or are those you words and thoughts? Because that’s complete fabrication of the hasbara from Israel and the propaganda from the U.S. Iran has never attacked anyone and Israel attacks everyone, either openly or by proxy. Now they want 1953 all over again in Iran. Israel and the U.S. are the enemies of the world, the most dangerous of all countries. Why the constant banging the drums of war on Iran? Because the hegemonic U.S. want all the power, control and resources on earth and/or the Israelis want to be the ONLY power in the middle east. Odd, since Israel says it’s a democracy, when, in fact, Iran is many times more a democracy than Israel ever was or will be.

      • HarryLaw on January 8, 2018, 4:11 pm

        Rob Roy, ” Were you just repeating something someone else said, or are those you words and thoughts?” I was repeating what the NYT reported…… “According to Palestinian, Arab and European officials who have heard Mr. Abbas’s version of the conversation, plus many other outlets have reported the same, this in in keeping with my ‘opinion’ that the Saudis do not care about the Palestinians, all they care about are themselves and their hegemonic power in the region. I did hear one Palestinian official deny this, but in the words of Mandy Rice Davies “He would say that wouldn’t he”. [giving away my age].
        This entails the Saudis teaming up with Israel, the US and other Gulfies to eventually wage war on Iran, this is why the US/Saudi and Israel proxy war was started first on the low hanging fruit Syria, to be followed by Hezbollah and finally Iran, fortunately this proxy war has come unstuck on the first hurdle Syria, thanks to Russia.

    • Misterioso on January 8, 2018, 3:22 pm


      File this under “Disgusting.”

      Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman personally purchased a painting by Leonardo Da Vinci for $450 million (US) , the “most expensive painting ever sold at auction.”

      The prince also purchased the world’s most expensive home – $300 million (US)
      New York Times, December 16/17

      “LOUVECIENNES, France — When the Chateau Louis XIV sold for over $300 million two years ago, Fortune magazine called it ‘the world’s most expensive home,’ and Town & Country swooned over its gold-leafed fountain, marble statues and hedged labyrinth set in a 57-acre landscaped park. But for all the lavish details, one fact was missing: the identity of the buyer.

      “Now, it turns out that the paper trail leads to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, heir to the Saudi throne and the driving force behind a series of bold policies transforming Saudi Arabia and shaking up the Middle East.

      “The 2015 purchase appears to be one of several extravagant acquisitions — including a $500 million yacht and a $450 million Leonardo da Vinci painting — by a prince who is leading a sweeping crackdown on corruption and self-enrichment by the Saudi elite and preaching fiscal austerity at home.”

      We’re talking about $one billion, 250 million (US) that this man-child prince has blown on himself.

      How many hospitals, schools, universities, scholarships, desperately needed infrastructure projects throughout the region and beyond and much needed aid and support for the Palestinians and other Arabs regardless of their religion could he have provided?

    • Maghlawatan on January 8, 2018, 11:35 pm

      In 2011 the Mubarak regime collapsed. The Israeli embassy was attacked by a mob. That is how ordinary Egyptians feel deep down about issues like no access to the holy city of Jerusalem for Egyptians . Captain Kholi is a traitor. Unless Israel is dealt with Copts will never be able to go to Jerusalem. The status quo is not sustainable. Neither is the Egyptian junta .

  10. Rob Roy on January 8, 2018, 3:13 pm

    P.S. The ONLY democratic solution to this situation is one state. Anything less is not a democracy. The Israelis obviously don’t want a democracy. They are forever victims no matter what ungodly things they do to the indigenous Palestinians who are now the read victims.

  11. Misterioso on January 8, 2018, 3:53 pm

    “Trump Could Be the Best Thing That Ever Happened to BDS ”
    By Bradley Burston. Jan 08, 2018, Haaretz.


    “As 2017 drew to a close, there was a sense in some quarters that the BDS movement to boycott, sanction, and divest from Israel had fallen on hard times….”

    “‘And then, last month, something changed that. In two words: Donald Trump.

    “‘Up until a month ago, an intense love affair was underway between the greatest performers in the world and Israeli concert promoters,’ wrote Raz Shechnik in the weekend Yedioth Ahronoth. The future of the market was colored in the soft shades of a pink lord (Israeli slang for a permanent marker pen, and a play on the name of New Zealand singing star Lorde).”

    “‘Just then, came U.S. President Donald Trump’s declaration recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.'”

    “And, as Shechnik notes, a floodtide of subsequent events – including Lorde’s sudden cancellation of plans to appear in Israel, eruption of rioting in Palestinian areas, and the Likud Central Committee’s unanimous decision to push for full annexation of the bulk of the West Bank – caused an abrupt, 180-degree shift in major Israeli concert promoters’ predictions for the new year:

    “‘The market has gone from gearing up for an excellent summer of 2018, the kind that would have even stolen the limelight from the last summer of concerts, to a state of despondency, and to forecasts conveying, at best, uncertainty, and at worst, pessimism.'”

    “On Friday, as promoters fretted over performers who have yet to decide whether to appear in Israel this year, more than 100 artists including musicians, writers, actors and directors signed an open letter published in The Guardian in support of Lorde’s right to cancel – among them actor Mark Ruffalo, singer Peter Gabriel, former Pink Floyd front man Roger Waters, actor John Cusack, British director Ken Loach, writer Angela Davis and writer Alice Walker.

    “The open letter also slammed a full-page Washington Post newspaper ad condemning Lorde for being a ‘bigot’ – an advertisement placed by Rabbi Shmuely Boteach, whose circle of support links Trump, Netanyahu, and mega-donor Sheldon Adelson.

    “Just like that, the thought occurs: Donald Trump could be the best thing that ever happened to BDS.”

    • Maghlawatan on January 8, 2018, 11:26 pm

      There is a price for overdoing it .

      The more people in the West see that Zionism is taking the piss , the more leverage BDS will have

      I went to the West bank in 2000. I have been working with an Irish radio station on IP issues since then. Every time there is some news they ask about the peace process. People are decent . They expect some kind of fairness. Some kind of decency.
      Artists are no different

      And when Israel tries to shut the game down and say “we make the rules ” Israel has to face the consequences

  12. James Canning on January 8, 2018, 5:29 pm

    That Israel would grant equal rights to Muslims, as a result of annexing the entire West Bank, is simply inconceivable.

    • Maghlawatan on January 8, 2018, 11:28 pm

      Apartheid is simply inconceivable. Economic sanctions are simply inconceivable. Israel has been deFerring consequences since 1948. Chickens are coming home to roost

      The future of Israel is non linear . Get the popcorn in.

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