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Editor’s note: In recent weeks Israeli forces killed at least 118 Palestinians and wounded more than 13,000 in confrontations at the fence that divides the Gaza Strip from Israel. The sheer number of shots fired at demonstrators has raised questions about the Israeli military’s rules for using live-fire. Stephen Shenfield writes that in recent years the rules were stricter.

Snipers (sharpshooters) constitute about a quarter of all soldiers in the IDF’s combat units. The standard course for the training of snipers lasts five weeks. The best snipers, however, are Russian immigrants who fought in Chechnya.

Snipers are organized in teams that form part of infantry battalions. Snipers are equipped with special rifles of various makes. Since 2010 the best rifle at their disposal has been the HTR 2000, which has a range of over 1,000 meters. Older makes have somewhat shorter ranges — several hundred meters.

The locator

Each team of snipers contains a specialist called the locator, who plays a key role in choosing targets. On April 10 a former locator by the name of Nadav Weiman talked on Israeli television to Channel 10 about his experience in a sniper team of the Nahal Reconnaissance Platoon on the Gaza border. (He now works for the organization Breaking the Silence as head of its education department.)

Here is how Weiman describes his work as a locator:

“I would sit with binoculars and an electro-optic lens during the day and a thermal lens at night. I would identify a figure, see if he was armed, then I would measure the distance with a laser meter and check the wind with an electronic weather vane. Then I would give the snipers correction data and count down 3, 2, 1, fire!”

It is of interest to compare this account of the pre-firing procedure with that given on April 1 by Major General Haim Cohen, commander of the Shaked Battalion near the southern end of the Gaza Strip, on the Galatz military radio station. Cohen omits the technical detail provided by Weiman but emphasizes two steps that Weiman fails to mention: (1) obtaining authorization to fire from a commander; and (2) warning the targeted individual by means of a PA system. According to Cohen, there was a commander next to each sniper team and it was he who gave the order to fire. But Weiman says that when he was in the army it was he, the locator of the team, who gave the order.

The open fire regulations

Both Weiman and Cohen say that the choice of targets is in principle guided by the open fire regulations. These are the regulations that Israeli human rights NGOs tried but failed to challenge before the Supreme Court on April 30. The precise regulations are classified, yet the Israeli network i24 reports they are “widely known in a country where most Israelis perform compulsory military service.”

The open fire regulations, especially in their current form, mandate the shooting not only of armed but also of unarmed individuals who have been assigned to certain categories. One such category is the “main inciter” who “inflames” those around him.

How do you identify a “main inciter”? That, says Weiman, is “the million dollar question.” It is left to the judgment of the locator or commander on the spot. It cannot be based on what the suspect is saying because the decision maker cannot hear him (and is also unlikely to understand Arabic). He can only observe him visually. In practice an “inciter” is probably just someone who stands out in some way.

Another category mentioned by Weiman — albeit in a different context, namely, that of Operation Protective Edge in the Gaza Strip in 2014 — is the “scout”. Weiman and his fellow soldiers were ordered to shoot any Palestinian, even if unarmed, carrying an object — it could be a cell phone or binoculars — that he might be using to direct or assist combatants.

The radio interviewer asks Cohen about the relationship between permission to shoot and distance from the fence. Is there a forbidden zone and how far does it extend? Cohen’s answer is not very clear but he does refer to a 100-meter-wide “perimeter zone”. However, many demonstrators in his sector were at distances of 70–80 meters, i.e., well within the perimeter zone, and were not shot solely for that reason — unlike those who approached very close.

Weiman concludes that the open fire regulations impose no effective constraints. Category definitions are so vague that they can be used to justify practically any target. This makes it very difficult to prove that a specific shooting violated the regulations. At the same time, IDF spokesmen constantly cite the existence of the regulations — their content, as you will recall, is a military secret — as a reliable safeguard against abuses. Catch 22.

Gaza — a free fire zone 

However, perhaps Weiman exaggerates a little. Permissive as the regulations may be, it is doubtful whether, for instance, they allow the shooting of medical personnel wearing distinctive uniforms and holding their hands up like the nurse Razan al-Najjar. Another factor must be at work.

That factor is the perception of the Gaza Strip as a free fire zone where anyone can be shot and killed with impunity. This perception has developed within the IDF over the years in the course of successive punitive operations. At an earlier stage in the process some kinds of target were still off limits, such as women and people holding a white flag. But in recent years the situation has reached a point where soldiers are permitted to shoot at anyone they see.

As a result, many killings lack even the most tenuous security rationale. In Operation Protective Edge, for example, one tank gunner was told by his commander to fire a tank shell at any target as commemoration for a fellow soldier who was killed. As a sort of game, he and his buddies tried to hit cars moving along one of the Gaza Strip’s main north-south roads. It may therefore be presumed that many of the Gaza demonstrators who have been maimed or killed were shot just for fun, to alleviate boredom, or to express hatred of the “enemy population”.

 

Stephen Shenfield
About Stephen Shenfield

Stephen Shenfield is a British-born writer. After several years as a government statistician, he entered the field of Soviet Studies. He was active in the nuclear disarmament movement. Later he came to the U.S. and taught International Relations at Brown University. He is the author of Russian Fascism: Traditions, Tendencies, Movements (M.E. Sharpe, 2001). He now works as an independent researcher and translator. He is a member of the World Socialist Movement. A collection of his writings is on his new website at stephenshenfield.net.

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  1. bcg
    bcg
    June 19, 2018, 11:23 am

    “It may therefore be presumed that many of the Gaza demonstrators who have been maimed or killed were shot just for fun, to alleviate boredom, or to express hatred of the “enemy population”.” – for me, that was the most interesting sentence of the piece, because around a decade ago I heard Yehuda Shaul, one of the founders of Breaking the Silence, on a speaking tour. Shaul described his experience serving in Hebron – the soldiers in his unit became so bored they started shooting at streetlamps for amusement. The little games they played escalated into games played with the Palestinian residents of the city, Shaul explained.

    It’s a dynamic that plays out in any military occupation of a civilian occupation.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      June 20, 2018, 8:56 am

      Yep.
      We grow up playing war and western shootouts.
      We dream of the real thing.
      Contrary to the high-minded propaganda of PR generals, soldiers like war and want to shoot.
      The public likes it when we shoot, they don’t like it when we don’t.

  2. kev
    kev
    June 19, 2018, 11:47 am

    “Weiman and his fellow soldiers were ordered to shoot any Palestinian, even if unarmed, carrying an object — it could be a cell phone or binoculars — that he might be using to direct or assist combatants.”

    “any Palestinian… carrying an object…”, like maybe, a camera? Explains why so many journalists are targeted, right?

    I’d like to know whether there are any explicit directives on who NOT to shoot, like clearly marked Press, ambulances and medical personnel, children under a certain age… I’m guessing that those are all fair game, since all have been targeted by the IDF for many years.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      June 20, 2018, 9:00 am

      2008/2009 Gaza.
      IDF targeted many Red Crescent ambulances “because Hamas fighters used them to move their fighters.”
      In other words, no matter what their markings, everyone is suspect.

  3. Kay24
    Kay24
    June 19, 2018, 1:29 pm

    Looks like Israel is going to lose big daddy, who usually protects it from world criticism, resolutions, and being held responsible for the massacre of unarmed civilians.

    US to withdraw from UN Humans Rights Council.

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley will announce on Tuesday that the United Sates is withdrawing from the United Nations Human Rights Council, a Trump administration source told Reuters.

    The United States is half-way through a three-year term on the main U.N. rights body and had long threatened to quit if it was not reformed, accusing the 47-member Geneva-based body of being anti-Israel.

    Reuters reported last week that activists and diplomats said talks with the United States on reforms had failed to meet Washington’s demands, suggesting that the Trump administration would quit.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-states-withdraws-human-rights-council_us_5b292ba6e4b05d6c16c7efe6

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      June 20, 2018, 3:04 pm

      @Kay24

      The US withdrew from the UN Human Rights Council due to pressure from Israel and American ultra-Zionist, multi-billionaire casino magnate, Sheldon Adelson, who is Trump’s number one financial contributor.

      For an excellent profile of Sheldon Adelson, check out this video:

      “Prominent Canadian news broadcaster Wendy Mesley exposes the role of billionaire campaign donor Sheldon Adelson in getting the U.S. embassy moved to Jerusalem, Trump’s abandonment of the Iran nuclear deal, and both U.S. and Canadian politics in general.

      “Adelson, the tenth richest man in the world and the GOP’s largest donor, is known to use his money to influence policies on behalf of Israel.

      “After trump tore up the Iran agreement, Adelson donated an additional $30 million to the Republican party, possibly the single largest single donation in U.S. history.

      “Mesley interviews New York Times reporter Ken Vogel, who says that Adelson has private meetings at the White House with Trump, Vice President Pence, John Bolton, and others. Israel is at the heart of Adelson’s donations, who has been influenced by his Israeli wife. Vogel explains that Adelson is ‘the enforcer’ for Jewish American donors who give a lot of money to Republican politicians. People are afraid to cross him.

      “The report was broadcast on Canada’s CBC news program “The Weekly with Wendy Mesley” on May 20, 2018.”

      See a related video about Adelson: “Sheldon Adelson regrets having worn an American uniform rather than an Israeli one”
      youtu.be/2TFi-9wnspk

      Needless to say, Israel is one of world’s thoroughly documented serial violators of international humanitarian law.

      • m1945
        m1945
        June 22, 2018, 10:53 am

        The 18 worst countries for human rights in 2017 were Syria, North Korea, South Sudan, Somalia, Central African Republic, Libya, Yemen, China, Burundi, DR Congo, Afghanistan, Burma, Pakistan, Lebanon, Mali, Nigeria, Ukraine & Mexico.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 22, 2018, 12:34 pm

        “The 18 worst countries for human rights…”

        “Jack Green”, don’t be ridiculous. We can’t give all those countries as much money as we give Israel.

      • eljay
        eljay
        June 22, 2018, 2:04 pm

        || Jack Green: The 18 worst countries for human rights in 2017 were Syria, North Korea, South Sudan, Somalia, Central African Republic, Libya, Yemen, China, Burundi, DR Congo, Afghanistan, Burma, Pakistan, Lebanon, Mali, Nigeria, Ukraine & Mexico. ||

        So…the “Jewish State” of Israel – frequently promoted by Zionists as a “moral beacon”, a “light unto the nations” and/or a “Western-style democracy” – is not quite as bad as these countries. Got it.

      • m1945
        m1945
        June 22, 2018, 2:16 pm

        How is money relevant?

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 22, 2018, 2:53 pm

        Green,

        Sounds like another Neocon list.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 22, 2018, 2:57 pm

        Green,

        Money is irrelevant, of course, as long as various Adelsons and Sabans are paying the self-appointed busybodies who do the ratings.

      • eljay
        eljay
        June 22, 2018, 8:03 pm

        || Jack Green: How is money relevant? ||

        It makes the world go ’round.

  4. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    June 20, 2018, 6:04 am

    Shenfld is exaggerating the real world results of training. The snipers are under stricter rules now then in any past Gaza conflict. And this time it’s the political brass holding them back to see whet certain understandings might go with Hamas. J Hamas seems extra concerned the the snipers don’t target the planners or masterminds behind the kind flaming tactic. The flame flyers are well back into Gaza Far from fence so Israel would have to target deep and it may not be ready to start that yet. Hamas seems willing in that they’ve shot of more then any missiles they have recently. We’re heading for the’ War of the Kites’.
    . Btw: even after the drop in soothern. Jewish populations from towns bordering Gaza f who fled apparently the small towns and kibbutzim are getting double and triple what tutu h u uhh ii

    • John O
      John O
      June 20, 2018, 8:29 am

      Batteries running low?

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        June 20, 2018, 9:03 am

        Ha!

      • annie
        annie
        June 20, 2018, 9:27 am

        3rd that

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 20, 2018, 11:24 am

        “Batteries running low?”

        Every so often “DaBakr” gets a snootfull and tweeks for a couple days. Then he crashes for a while.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        June 21, 2018, 3:13 am

        @mssr

        Yup. Batteries ran out. I got a few of Rosannes Ambien after she quit. fell asleep mid-stream. Ambien mondoweissing!

        Still, I understood what I wrote perfectly well. I even saw an article using “kite wars”. Hamas has finally found a tactic that that poses an irritating problem. Israel can’t use snipers at those distances and if they use to many targeted hits on kite squads the Hamas missile barrage will escalate. But Hamas has a bigger problem with the PA and needing money. and I will bet Netanyahu is going to keep the focus on the north as long as some trigger- like the murder of three Israeli teens in 14 set the nation on a more warlike footing. I don’t think any of the involved powers want any higher escalation at this point and want to see what can be squeezed. And

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 22, 2018, 12:37 pm

        “Yup. Batteries ran out.”

        Know how you feel. Sometimes I’d like to read through one of your posts, “DaBakr”, but my eyes glaze over, my thumb twitches on the mouse, and it’s gone.
        I read one once, long time ago, so I trust everything’s still pretty much the same?

    • bcg
      bcg
      June 20, 2018, 9:35 am

      DeBakr, the rules are actually not that relevant – there were rules in place that should have prevented My Lai, right? It’s the culture that’s the driver, and the culture of the IDF is that Palestinian lives are cheap and Palestinians are foreigners in the land of Israel. As long as that culture persists it won’t matter much hat the manuals says.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      June 20, 2018, 1:11 pm

      Amazing you know the restrictions they operate under when the gov refused to make them public in court. Wow!

      Seriously jack, did they release them and if so where? If not you’re making crap up as you go along. Business as usual in zioland.

      And a happy tutu h u uhh ii to you too!

  5. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    June 20, 2018, 9:00 am

    @John O
    Yup I think he/it needs to get to the nearest Hasbara recharging station asap.

    As for the cuddly most moral IDF snipers I have an idea where they get their inspiration from:

    • John O
      John O
      June 20, 2018, 10:42 am

      Ah, the Daleks! They were built at a film and TV modelmaking workshop next door to my primary school. (The model ship used in the 1962 version of “Mutiny on the Bounty” towered over our schoolyard.) Naturally, seeing them going out to the BBC studios on the back of pick-ups, or coming back in for repairs, they held few terrors for us kids. Exterminate? They were all talk.

  6. StanleyHeller
    StanleyHeller
    June 20, 2018, 11:54 am

    We in CT have been looking into reports that Ruger sniper rifles are being used against Palestinians. We had a protest walk yesterday to Ruger headquarters in Fairfield, CT. http://www.thestruggle.org/our%20walk%20of%20protest%20to%20the%20ruger%20factory.htm Would appreciate any help in identifying what Ruger products are used by the IDF or Israeli police, Border Police, etc.

    It would be a good project to identify all the companies selling weapons to Israel.

    HTR 2000 rifles are made by a company whose headquarters are in South Dakota, a bit of a hike

  7. JimMichie
    JimMichie
    June 20, 2018, 12:43 pm

    I must ask, Phil Weiss, what on earth is the point of giving so much space and free voice to this racist, fascist, terrorist Zionist (former) assassin sniper! I see it as a galactic outrage! This Zionist sniper speaks as though he is describing the rules for a “turkey shoot”; and obviously those panelists, including the Zionist moderator, listen quite calmly and intently as this assassin sniper describes how it is decided who will be shot, how they will be shot, and when they will be shot. It is all too apparent that he and his partners in massacre do not view Palestinians as their “neighbors”, nor even as human beings. Hence an “interview” that only serves to further dehumanize the Palestinian. Again, I must ask, Phil Weiss, what were you, Adam, Annie and Scott, et al., thinking when you chose to post this obscene piece of Zionist garbage without at least prefacing it with a Mondoweiss commentary and disclaimer! What, pray tell, were you thinking!

    • John O
      John O
      June 20, 2018, 2:09 pm

      Possibly the same principle that General Montgomery used when he hung a photo of his opponent Rommel in his command caravan during the North African campaign in WW2 – know your enemy.

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      June 20, 2018, 2:41 pm

      James,

      Let’s not extend the blame to the web site that did note, at the end of Shenfield’s largely technical comment, that

      many killings lack even the most tenuous security rationale… It may therefore be presumed that many of the Gaza demonstrators who have been maimed or killed were shot just for fun, to alleviate boredom, or to express hatred…

      I fully agree with you, however, that it is obscene, no other word for it.
      The “rules” of genocidal invaders are clear anyway: mass murder by the hundreds and thousands of a defenceless, captive population whose basic right would be to strike at the invaders with all possible weapons. They are totally irrelevant to the discussion of the invasion and occupation.
      One does not need to know any “rules” set by illegal invaders. It’s obvious that they are no different than Genghis Khan’s or the Nazis’. If any of US imperialist “responsibility to protect” principles (used by Democrats to rape so many countries!) were principles, the only appropriate international response would be immediate armed intervention and the hanging of all government, planners, commanders and executioners.

      Absent that, the only thing that is being discussed is the “technical” legal status of one form of mass murder within the legality of an illegal government illegally on the land. I agree that it is of no interest and not remotely likely to help anyone, except salve the conscience of some negligible liberal Zionists who should just get out of the country if they are serious about Palestinian rights.

    • annie
      annie
      June 20, 2018, 4:05 pm

      i fully support the publication of this article as well as all of Stephen Shenfield’s articles. i also think israel’s “standards” for rules of engagement are relevant and interesting.

      speaking of rules of engagement, the site continues to publish james’s routinely toxic derogatory comments. life.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 20, 2018, 4:34 pm

        “the site continues to publish james’s routinely toxic derogatory comments. life.”

        Not just toxic, they seem to have a bit of intoxication about them, too.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 20, 2018, 4:43 pm

        Fine, continue liking the stuff. How exactly are the Zionists’ “rules of engagement” relevant to an indiscriminate mass murder orgy with special targeting of first aid and journalists? You want the illegal high court to restrict them? Like they “restricted” torture some 40 years ago, already?

        As for derogatory comments, many toxic articles on this site (as distinct from the many interesting, well–thought and inspiring articles) do deserve them, and how.

        Also, speaking of rules, the fact that James’ comments are published does not mean that a lot of critical issues are not systematically censored also when they do not violate any of the ostensible rules. But then, this is the capitalist word and it’s up to the owner, no problem.

      • annie
        annie
        June 20, 2018, 5:02 pm

        after the 08-09 gaza slaughter Eyal Weizman of forensic architecture (https://www.forensic-architecture.org/case/nakba-day-killngs/) wrote Lawfare in Gaza: legislative attack https://www.opendemocracy.net/article/legislative-attack

        Weizman explains:

        International law can be thought of not as a static body of rules but rather as an endless series of conflicts over this border. The question is not which interpretation is right, but who has the power to force their interpretation into becoming authoritative. In this sense, international law does not merely legitimate violence but actually relies on it.

        In the section titled The elastic limits of law Weizman quotes the former legal adviser to the Israeli military, Daniel Reisner explaining that his job was about finding

        “untapped potential in international law” that would allow military actions in the grey zone: “International law develops through its violation… an act that is forbidden today becomes permissible if executed by enough countries..”

        i recommend the whole article. israel’s rules of engagement are designed to ‘lawfully’ commit war crimes, as such, it’s interesting to me how they do it because it could be used as an allowable standard elsewhere, hence. the erosion of international law (weapons are not the only thing tested in gaza).

        as it pertains to this article:

        Weiman[not to be confused with weizman] concludes that the open fire regulations impose no effective constraints. Category definitions are so vague that they can be used to justify practically any target. This makes it very difficult to prove that a specific shooting violated the regulations. At the same time, IDF spokesmen constantly cite the existence of the regulations — their content, as you will recall, is a military secret — as a reliable safeguard against abuses. Catch 22.

        the zionist “rules of engagement” are relevant to an indiscriminate mass murder orgy with special targeting of first aid and journalists precisely because of the way they are designed to absolve the perpetrator. some people are interested in this stuff. international lawyers in particular. hostage used to comment about this stuff, that’s how i got interested.

        read weizman’s article, especially section “The technologies of destruction”, you never know.. you might find it interesting too. and frankly, i’m surprised anyone would even wonder why we’d publish it. it seems so obvious to me.

        think of it, someday it might be perfectly legal to kill humans for sport, or just for the fun of it. we could be witnessing how that sport becomes legal, just by watching the mutations of israel’s rules of engagement. a blood libel? you betcha.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 20, 2018, 5:17 pm

        Annie,

        You sure got a point. I should have been much clearer that it can be of interest somewhere, sometime.
        Now, with the ongoing orgy of internationally fully supported plain mass murder, is certainly the worse possible time for discussing this shit, though: it’s being used for diversion, and how.

      • annie
        annie
        June 20, 2018, 5:39 pm

        it’s being used for diversion

        part of an overall zionist plot no doubt.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 20, 2018, 5:54 pm

        Oh no, there’s no Zionist propaganda plot. Perish the thought.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 20, 2018, 6:22 pm

        “think of it, someday it might be perfectly legal to kill humans for sport, or just for the fun of it. we could be witnessing how that sport becomes legal, just by watching the mutations of israel’s rules of engagement”

        I should worry? Look, there’s so few Jews that we’ll be covered under the Endangered Species Act, and nobody’d dare lay a finger on us.

      • gamal
        gamal
        June 20, 2018, 7:18 pm

        “nobody’d dare lay a finger on us” “Mooser”

        “As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
        I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place….”

        ……

        As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man —
        There are only four things certain since Social Progress began: —
        That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
        And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

        And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
        When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
        As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
        The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!” Kipling. R

        “wabbling fingers” you good with those?

        “And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all”

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        June 20, 2018, 8:45 pm

        Good old Kippers. I wonder how many of our readers know what a 19C copybook was like?

        The examples to be copied were pithy, sententious, proverbs that were intended to inculcate common sense and decent, responsible, behaviour as well as good handwriting. I am not confident that they worked.

        I think copybooks went out of use in Australia before I started school, I certainly never used one, though I have seen them. I believe they are still used in Chinese schools.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_of_the_Copybook_Headings

      • Stephen Shenfield
        Stephen Shenfield
        June 21, 2018, 6:50 pm

        Thank you for your encouragement, Annie.

      • annie
        annie
        June 21, 2018, 9:42 pm

        thank you stephen.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      June 20, 2018, 4:27 pm

      “I must ask, Phil Weiss, what on earth is the point of giving so much space and free voice to this racist, fascist, terrorist Zionist (former) assassin sniper”

      “About Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield is a British-born writer. After several years as a government statistician, he entered the field of Soviet Studies. He was active in the nuclear disarmament movement. Later he came to the U.S. and taught International Relations at Brown University. He is the author of Russian Fascism: Traditions, Tendencies, Movements (M.E. Sharpe, 2001). He now works as an independent researcher and translator. He is a member of the World Socialist Movement. A collection of his writings is on his new website”

      And he also works a side job as Zionist assassin? Hard to see.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        June 20, 2018, 5:11 pm

        Mooser,

        He means the guy speaking in the movie. The description is correct –he even wrote “(former)”.

        As if it wasn’t obvious.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 20, 2018, 6:09 pm

        “He means the guy speaking in the movie.”

        That would be Wieman, who also got a one paragraph quote in the article?

  8. Stephen Shenfield
    Stephen Shenfield
    June 20, 2018, 7:49 pm

    I quoted Weiman because he is the only credible witness so far available on the Israeli side. I hope that Breaking the Silence will bring us more such witnesses and then we shall not have to rely so much on this guy. He deserves some credit for ‘breaking the silence’ but I don’t ask anyone to admire him. I noticed that he shows no contrition for the murders and maimings he has committed. Evidently he does not feel that it was really he who did these things: he was just performing certain technical functions.

    Weiman takes part in another TV talk show (not the one shown in the video above) where a young women reflects on her own IDF service as follows:

    ‘When I was in the army I served in Intelligence 9702 in the drone unit… Everybody remembers the targeted assassination of Musawi, who was the secretary general of Hezbollah. It was a huge event, we recorded it with a drone and his car was bombed. And all of us in the drone wagon yelled with joy. Great, great, the assassination was successful. While many innocent bystanders were hurt — there were cars there and people who ran. And there’s no doubt that innocent civilians were killed in that event, but so was the secretary general of Hezbollah. 19-year-old kids, happy with their success. On our way back to the base we accidentally ran over a hedgehog. And we were all completely shattered by it. How could we have harmed such a helpless creature? And I admit that’s when I realized something was very strange. Why were we sad for a hedgehog but not for human beings who did nothing?’

    She too is a murderer and she too shows no sign of contrition — only a sense of unease. Let’s remember — these are young kids straight out of school, brought up in a closed society. They have had very little if any personal contact with Palestinians. They are only just starting to question what they have been taught. We hope they will progress further on that path.

    My purpose in doing this sort of research is to produce intellectual ammunition for arguing with people who still believe or half-believe the Israeli propaganda. There are a lot of those people out there and we should try to get through to them, not just preach to the converted.

    • gamal
      gamal
      June 20, 2018, 9:26 pm

      “a helpless creature?”

      In the case of Musawi the Israelis did know his six year old son was in the car with him and burned to death, servir l’etat, you have to forget as you remember.

  9. Boomer
    Boomer
    June 21, 2018, 7:50 am

    To my surprise, the first page of Google News included a link to a decent story about Gaza at NBC:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/why-palestinians-risk-their-lives-protest-near-gaza-israel-fence-n884936

    I don’t know how much of that (if any) was included the the broadcast version of NBC News. One might say it is too little too late, but it’s more than I expect from NBC.

  10. jackal
    jackal
    June 25, 2018, 12:12 am

    I’m mid-way through Robert Fisk’s book, PITY THE NATION — THE ABDUCTION OF LEBANON, which I believe should be compulsory reading by every Jewish person throughout the world. In it he covers not one, but two Israeli invasions of Lebanon, describing in detail the horrific killing of both Palestinians as well as Lebanese civilians.
    One can only read a few pages at a time, because it sickens the heart to see how evil the Israelis can be when it is to their benefit. And what is even worse, is to see the Great America, standing by, watching the Israeli fighter jets strafing and cluster bombing the civilians as well as the Palestinian fighters. This was in the ’80’s. And, what good did it do? It just created more enemies as it will continue to do so.

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