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Israel is reluctant to invade Gaza with ground troops — and it’s not because Benjamin Netanyahu has developed a conscience

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By now, Israel should have invaded Gaza again. The Great March of Return has won worldwide respect for Gazans and encouraged their resistance. This Israeli defeat in global opinion, along with the fires on the Israeli side of the border caused by Palestinian kites, should have already prompted a massive ground attack. Previous Israeli invasions, in 2008, 2012 and 2014, required fewer pretexts.

What’s more, Benjamin Netanyahu faces serious political threats, which must sorely tempt him to attack; he and his wife are under scrutiny in multiple corruption probes, and Israeli farmers near the Gaza border loudly hold him responsible for the damage caused by the burning kites. Netanyahu’s top concern is always his own political future, and a Gaza invasion would distract nicely from his problems.

But Israel’s ground forces stay put. Two respected analysts of Israel’s military explain why: the Hamas resistance movement has prepared strong defenses inside Gaza that have raised the costs of an invasion above an acceptable level. Amos Harel, who covers the military for Haaretz, is an unsentimental reporter with excellent sources. He outlined Israel’s weakness in a recent piece headlined, “If Israel had to enter Gaza today, the Israeli army would have a big problem.”

In the useful website War on the Rocks, a retired Israeli colonel named Shimon Arad has more details. He explains that during the 2014 invasion, Hamas surprised the Israeli invaders with “subterranean warfare from a developed tunnel system located in the towns and refugee camps inside the Gaza Strip.” Arad says Israel is successfully countering the Hamas-dug tunnels into Israeli territory, but has not found an answer to Hamas’s underground defenses in Gaza itself. He goes on, clearly a bit ruefully, that an invasion today means that 

. . . Israel would now have to maneuver into the densely populated Palestinian cities and refugee camps, saturated with tunnels under houses and fighting positions, in order to destroy Hamas’s military capabilities. This is designed to make an Israeli maneuver costly, thereby deterring the operation entirely or cutting it short because of pressure from the Israeli public and regional and international actors to stop the fighting.

Max Blumenthal already reported this change in Hamas’s military strategy some years ago. In his valuable account of the 2014 conflict, The 51 Day War, he described a decisive clash at the beginning of that year’s invasion, in the Shujaiya neighborhood. Soldiers from Al-Qassam, the Hamas armed wing, “lured an [Israeli] M113 armored personnel carrier onto a field laced with improvised explosive devices. That the Israelis had invaded using a thinly-armored Vietnam-era American relic signaled their underestimation of Al-Qassam’s capabilities. The vehicle went up in a ball of flames, killing six soldiers inside.  .  .”

Blumenthal explains that the unexpected heavy losses prompted Israel to pull back its ground forces, and only continued the attack from the air, which is how most of the 2200 Gazans died, the vast majority of them civilians. 

The absence of another invasion of Gaza is a reminder that Israel’s government only responds to real pressure. Israeli ground forces are not staying home because anyone has persuaded Benjamin Netanyahu and his Cabinet that Gazans deserve to have their human rights respected. Israel is not invading because armed Palestinians are waiting to ambush them if they do.

Of course, real pressure on Israel does not have to be potentially violent. We can only hope that the campaign for Boycott Divestment Sanctions, as it continues to grow, will eventually make a comprehensive settlement more likely. The only alternative is more violence, extending endlessly into the future — because the Palestinian people will never give up their fight. 

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  1. Citizen
    Citizen
    September 6, 2018, 10:25 am

    So HAMAS has a strategy akin to the Japanese on Iwo Jima? Yet Israel cannot nuke Gaza; it’s too close to Israel. Plus, BDS and the internet alter info spread did not exist way back then.

    • Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield
      September 8, 2018, 5:47 pm

      Israel can’t use nuclear weapons on Gaza but it can use non-nuclear “bunker busters” — extremely powerful conventional bombs capable of penetrating and destroying underground facilities. Israel is currently trying to buy some from the US, though it may already have some of its own.

  2. Abern
    Abern
    September 6, 2018, 1:43 pm

    It comes down to Israelis cheering Muslim deaths but having no stomach for Jewish deaths.

  3. Kay24
    Kay24
    September 6, 2018, 5:03 pm

    If the Zionists goes into Gaza, it would mean much more civilians massacred, injured, and the casualties numbers would be very high.
    No one can fault Hamas or any other entity for protecting their people.
    They can also say “never again”.

  4. guyn
    guyn
    September 6, 2018, 5:09 pm

    “The only alternative is more violence, extending endlessly into the future — because the Palestinian people will never give up their fight. ”

    The Israelis have no problem with that, as long as the balance of power remains the same.

    About the picture above: “Israeli soldiers attend a training simulating fighting in Gaza, at an Israeli military training base near South Hebron Hill”

    All these trainings in Palestine, tank training, artillery training etc., it is simply disgusting. Qu’ils aillent s’entrainer dans leur pays!

    • drhmay
      drhmay
      September 7, 2018, 11:41 am

      Hamas can protest as long as they want. They are never getting out of their self inflicted hovel until they come up with a plan that doesn’t involve Israel’s destruction. Israel gets stronger every year. BDS is BS.

  5. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    September 6, 2018, 5:37 pm

    Why shouldn’t we be “reluctant” to invade Gaza with ground forces dope? a nation should ALWAYS be reluctant to invade another state with military force. and you have absolutely no sense of the absurdity you display writing about Israel invading gaza when you clearly believe that Israel already occupies gaza. who invades a place they occupy? isn’t it common knowledge amongst the so-called ‘informed op-eds” that Israel is reluctant to engage in either front until it becomes more apparent where the larger or more imminent threat will advance from? but then your readers can’t decide if Israel is frothing at the mouth to reduce Lebanon and Gaza to rubble-OR- if we are the most cowardly, weakest and unfit to fight military in the world. Fascists or pussies? mondoweiss commenters are dying to tell everybody,’both!’ and it so so upsets the IDF, you have no idea

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      September 7, 2018, 10:23 am

      @DaBakr

      “…you have absolutely no sense of the absurdity you display writing about Israel invading gaza when you clearly believe that Israel already occupies gaza.”

      More bafflegab from Hasbara Central.
      This may come as a shock to you, but Israel does illegally and belligerently occupy Gaza.

      For your much needed edification, here’s a brief primer on the reality of Gaza:

      Human Rights Watch, 2005: “…Israel will continue to be an Occupying Power [of the Gaza Strip] under international law and bound by the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention because it will retain effective control over the territory and over crucial aspects of civilian life. Israel will not be withdrawing and handing power over to a sovereign authority – indeed, the word ‘withdrawal’ does not appear in the [2005 disengagement] document at all… The IDF will retain control over Gaza’s borders, coastline, and airspace, and will reserve the right to enter Gaza at will. According to the Hague Regulations, ‘A territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.’ International jurisprudence has clarified that the mere repositioning of troops is not sufficient to relieve an occupier of its responsibilities if it retains its overall authority and the ability to reassert direct control at will.”

      The International Committee of the Red Cross: “The whole of Gaza’s civilian population is being punished for acts for which they bear no responsibility. The closure therefore constitutes a collective punishment imposed in clear violation of Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law. The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, ratified by Israel, bans collective punishment of a civilian population.”

      “In practice, Gaza has become a huge, let me be blunt, concentration camp for right now 1,800,000 people” – Amira Hass, 2015 correspondent for Haaretz, speaking at the Forum for Scholars and Publics at Duke University.

      To quote Dov Weisglass, then PM Ariel Sharon’s senior adviser:
      “‘The significance of the [proposed] disengagement plan [implemented in 2005] is the freezing of the peace process,’ Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s senior adviser Dov Weisglass has told Ha’aretz. ‘And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda….’ Weisglass, who was one of the initiators of the disengagement plan, was speaking in an interview with Ha’aretz for the Friday Magazine. ‘The disengagement is actually formaldehyde,’ he said. ‘It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so there will not be a political process with the Palestinians.’” (Top PM Aide: Gaza Plan Aims to Freeze the Peace Process, Ha’aretz, October 6, 2004)

      Re Hamas:
      On 16 June 2009, after meeting with former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Ismail Haniya, prime minister of Hamas’s Gaza Strip government, announced that “If there is a real plan to resolve the Palestinian question on the basis of the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of June 4, 1967 [i.e. 22% of historic Palestine] and with full sovereignty, we are in favour of it.” Haniya’s statement was ignored by Israel.

      http://www.haaretz.com/isra…
      “‘We accept a Palestinian state on the borders of 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital, the release of Palestinian prisoners, and the resolution of the issue of refugees,’ Haniyeh said, referring to the year of Middle East war in which Israel captured East Jerusalem and the Palestinian territories. ” (Haaretz, December 1, 2010) No response from Israel.

      In its revised Charter, April, 2017, Hamas again agreed to a Palestinian state based on the 4 June 1967 borders. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, Israel promptly rejected the Hamas overture instead of using it to open a dialogue.

      https://www.haaretz.com/isr
      “Senior Hamas Official: ‘I Think We Can All Live Here in This Land – Muslims, Christians and Jews.’” By Nir Gontarz. March 28, 2018, Haaretz. Again, no response from Israel.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 7, 2018, 4:22 pm

        @mst

        thanks. can always count on you to provide reams of tedious information that nobody but the most ocd type could barely skim. you post as if the conflict was up before a court of law which it isn’t. and even if it was, the huge voluminous posts from mw are almost entirely based on biased interpretations of resolutions and documents that will have little baring in an actual courtroom situation. at least how international, us, british, russian, maritime and military law exist currently. maybe this situation will change, but not by making israel the example. think about it. or don’t.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 7, 2018, 4:39 pm

        “can always count on you to provide…”

        Yeah, “Dabakr” your run-on, no punctuation mutters are so informative and persuasive.

        Who are you writing them for? What purpose are they supposed to serve?
        Do you think there are positive and supportive responses littering the Moderation Room floor?

        “nobody but the most ocd type could barely skim.”

        Funny, he seems to get his point across much better than you do.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 8, 2018, 1:17 am

        @msr

        Oh mssr, are you trying to justify mw’s existence as an anti israel hate site? How quaint. a commentary board is a commentary board. if the owner wants to ban any pro israel comments it is certainly free to do so.

        You ask a lot of redundant questions. I don’t need to comment on pro israel sites. the entertainment value is less as is the motivation. and honestly old man, some of the zionist commenters I read are equally as whacked and single minded hate filled twits as some commenters are here. Not you, of course, your not hate filled. Jelly and borscht? Maybe.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 8, 2018, 3:24 am

        DaBakr: “and even if it was, the huge voluminous posts from mw are almost entirely based on biased interpretations of resolutions and documents that will have little baring in an actual courtroom situation.”

        ROFL. Definitely not in your Supreme Apartheid “Court”.

        But try to interpret this Security Council resolution from 2009 unbiased:
        “Stressing that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory occupied in 1967 …”
        https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/96514396E8389A2C852575390051D574

        And do the same with the official UN position:
        “Yes, the U.N. defines Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem as Occupied Palestinian Territory. No, that definition hasn’t changed,” the spokesman replied.

        Farhan Haq, spokesman for the secretary-general, told CNN Monday that the official status of Gaza would change only through a decision of the U.N. Security Council.”
        http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/06/israel.gaza.occupation.question/

        But this is just going to be another of your Hasbara failures, isn’t it?

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        September 8, 2018, 10:01 pm

        There’s a lot of this “hate” stuff around, nowadays. I’m not surprised. It’s so convenient for everyone who uses it. It saves a lot of thought and debate.

        You start with an ancient hatred, e.g.:

        Drodbar: Ugh. Me hate Jew.
        Gorbly: What Jew?
        Drodbar: Not know. But me hate.
        Gorbly: Ugh. Me hate Jew, too.
        Drodbar: Me hate Jew one and Jew two.
        Gorbly: Me hate all Jew.
        Drodbar: Ugh.

        Add in a bit of cod psychological drivel about “The Other”, perhaps toss a “-phobia” on, and you are set.
        If anyone criticises you, it’s because of irrational hate, so you are free from all considerations of blame or responsibility. Nothing is your fault.

  6. lyn117
    lyn117
    September 6, 2018, 6:27 pm

    @DaBakr, “who invades a place they occupy?” Israel “invades” a place they occupy. Nothing about having already militarily invaded and occupied a territory prevents a country from invading smaller areas within that territory. And as Israel doesn’t recognize Palestine, from their standpoint it’s not another state.

    I’m glad you admit Gaza is occupied territory, of course, that means Israel is responsible for the health and well-being of the civilian population.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      September 6, 2018, 8:45 pm

      @lyn

      with this type of logic you and north will stay firmly ensconced in your fantasy that israel will somehow cease to become the sovereign nation of the jewish people. as for gaza… It will remain…gaza, at the mercy of the tyrants that they voted to rule over them. they can channel money at any time they want into building their infrastructure but you know very well they spend on two things primarily: arms and personal enrichment. will hamas continue to seek legitimacy? surely so but it will not be at any expense Israel hasn’t already put on the table. It is so obvious from your commentary that you understand so little about how much we understand about the palestinian arabs and they about us. I know you think your chatter will help change things from a very very long game to something short but there will be no fake’israeli spring’ and for the most part Arab citizens only pay lip service to the idea of another muslim state that calls itself a democracy while adhering to old Islamic ideas of oppression for gays, women, non believers and g-d forbid somebody who draws an image of Mohammed.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        September 6, 2018, 9:15 pm

        that israel will somehow cease to become the sovereign nation of the jewish people

        Not “somehow”. Seeing how you Zionist crazies cannot bend or compromise, the how will be by overwhelming force, as soon as Uncle Sam starts feeling sick.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 7, 2018, 3:00 am

        @ec

        Settle down there ecci. Are you admitting that when the arab reaches the level of Israeli innovation, power and military cooperation with many powerful nations there will be an escalation of violence? Surely you jest, or fantasize

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 7, 2018, 7:52 am

        || @Daa: … israel will somehow cease to become the sovereign nation of the jewish people. … ||

        “Jewish State” is a religion-supremacist construct. No state should exist as a supremacist state of any kind.

        || … as for gaza… It will remain…gaza, at the mercy of the tyrants … ||

        …who will continue to do their utmost to ensure that Israel:
        – remains a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”;
        – continues to occupy and colonize as much as possible of geographic Palestine; and
        – is absolved of its obligations under international law (incl. RoR); and
        – is absolved of responsibility and accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes.

        “Tyrants” is a good word to describe such people.

        || … they can channel money at any time they want into building their infrastructure but you know very well … ||

        …that the “Jewish State” will eventually destroy it.

      • RayJosephCormier
        RayJosephCormier
        September 7, 2018, 8:56 am

        “but you know very well they spend on two things primarily: arms and personal enrichment.”

        The US Military-Industrial Complex is so pleased the American Taxpayer doesn’t question the $3,500,000,000 in Military Hardware/Welfare given FREE to Israel every year, as the shareholders of the MIC seek personal enrichment.

        Palestinian kites are so expensive to fight back with. No one remembers the toxic pesticides Israel sprayed and ruined the best agricultural land on the Gaza side of the fence.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        September 7, 2018, 9:33 am

        @DaBakr

        Compare Warsaw Ghetto with Gaza. Enlightened us some more.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        September 7, 2018, 10:32 am

        @DaBakr

        “…with this type of logic.”

        To state the obvious, you’re becoming more and more desperate to make a legitimate point, but failing miserably. Take a break, go for a walk and do some serious thinking about your future.
        Being a Hasbara mouthpiece is a dead end street.

      • drhmay
        drhmay
        September 7, 2018, 11:53 am

        Finally a breath of reality on this despicable hater’s site. Most of the writers are foaming at the mouth with self righteous BS. 22 muslin countries aren’t enough, almost none of which is democratic or peaceful or tolerant, nor would a Palestinian state . Israel with 2 million Arab citizens while “Palestine” will tolerate no Jews and they say Israel is racist. Self determination is a given right for Palestinians but not for Jews. They call Israeli leaders war mongers but completely ignore the despicable wickedness, terrorism and intolerance of Hamas or any Arab leaders. Israelis are colonialists from elsewhere while it’s ok that Arafat and many other Pals were born in Egypt and elsewhere. And on and nauseatingly on.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        September 7, 2018, 11:58 am

        Continue to pretend you don’t understand, Aboubakr. Denial will change the world to suit your fancy.

        There is no “Israeli innovation, power and military cooperation with many powerful nations” outside life support by the US Empire.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 7, 2018, 1:24 pm

        “And on and nauseatingly on.”

        And not a single thing you can do about it. Not one, single, solitary thing. Except add to the hit-count.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 7, 2018, 2:00 pm

        drhamy: “… 22 muslin countries aren’t enough, …”

        What an utterly racist approach. As if the people of a 23rd country don’t have the right to exercise their right to self determination, if it would be a ‘Muslim country’.

        drhamy: “Self determination is a given right for Palestinians but not for Jews.”

        Well Palestinians are the people OF a country. They are a constitutive people. Jews are not. But have a guess whose preventing whose right to self determination for the last 100 years.

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 7, 2018, 4:16 pm

        || drhmay: … Self determination is a given right for Palestinians but not for Jews. … ||

        The people of geographic Palestine had and have every right to self-determine as Palestinians and to establish in geographic Palestine a secular and democratic state of and for all people in and n-generations removed from geographic Palestine.

        People all over the world – citizens of homelands all over the world – who have chosen to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish never had and still do not have a right to steal, occupy and colonize any geographic region and establish in as much as possible of it a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” of and for all people in the world who share the same religion-based identity, regardless of any tangible ties to the geographic region.

        || … And on and nauseatingly on. ||

        Yes, you Zionists are extremely good at that.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 7, 2018, 4:51 pm

        ” israel will somehow cease to become the sovereign nation of the jewish people”

        Gee, Israel is my “sovereign nation” but it can’t tax me, can’t draft me, and can’t make me do a goddam thing. All its “sovereignty” consists of outside Israel, is the ability to beg for donations.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 8, 2018, 2:52 am

        @rayjc

        You are sadly misinformed and mistaken if you believe the military loan grants from the US to Israel are a form of “welfare” for Israel. If you sound bother to read an unbiased account of this 34.5 billion your so enraged about you would then know that more then 90% comes back to the US (military industrial complex, no doubt about that) in the form of payments from Israel, field testing experimental weaponry for real time use and in millions in contracts for US companies as well as jobs. Don’t think these American workers and their subsidiaries would take kindly to your view.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 8, 2018, 3:03 am

        @cz

        You make it too easy. The Jews in Warsaw understood late but for certain that their final destination was death. Gazan Arabs do not have to worry about being shipped off to be exterminated. There is enough humanitarian aid shipped through Israel to build a healthy thriving economy but the tyrant Muslim leaders steal most of the billions meant for the people for either themselves, their cronies and of course they divert massive amounts of aid to procure advanced arms to continue the violent struggle . Imagine if the Nazis knew of advanced weaponry smuggled in day after day to ghetto jews but only occasionally launched operations to contain the weapons and then woke recede back to status quo? It’s absurd. when the Jews revolted(like rushing the Gaza fence) the ghetto was liquidated of its Jews minus the few who escaped by sewer line and who were rejected by most of the polish partisans they pledged to fight with.

        Its not even a close comparison. Arabs in Gaza face violence only in proportion to the violence they wage against Israel. Quiet is met with quiet and so on. Not a choice the ghetto people had to make.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        September 8, 2018, 12:08 pm

        @dohbaker

        Of course it’s welfare for Israel. They end up with 34.5Bn worth of military hardware that they would have had to pay for on their own otherwise.

        Where the money goes may be relevant to a cost/benefit analysis but it has nothing to do with whether it’s a form of welfare/aid or not.

        If I applied your juvenile logic to welfare payments they would also not be welfare as the money is returned to landlords, store owners and other service providers.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 8, 2018, 12:56 pm

        “Arabs in Gaza face violence only in proportion to the violence they wage against Israel. Not a choice the ghetto people had to make”

        Of course! The Jews are still the Jews, whether in Warsaw or Israel, and the Palestinians are always the Nazis!

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 8, 2018, 3:30 pm

        DaBakr: “The Jews in Warsaw understood late but for certain that their final destination was death. Gazan Arabs do not have to worry about being shipped off to be exterminated.”

        That’s because Gaza is not an intermediate stop for Gazas, but their final destination in which they are not only killed but also can’t escape if they are injured or need treatment. It is also slwoly becoming unlivable. Over 90% of water is unfit for drinking. Indeed, it is a cocentration camp.

        DaBakr: “There is enough humanitarian aid shipped through Israel to build a healthy thriving economy ….”

        Just another blatant DaBakr lie. The monthly average of goods to Gaza is only 50% compared to 2005. Basic construction materials are restricted and since 2015 that even includes woodplanks. And the monthly average of goods that exit Gaza is maximal 17% compare to 2005. From June 2007 to October 2014 it was only 1%!

        DaBakr: “Arabs in Gaza face violence only in proportion to the violence they wage against Israel.

        Just another blatant DaBakr lie. Whether it is the UN or human rights organisations, everybody claims that Israel’s violence is absolutely disproportionate. Not only in regard to its kill or injuring ratio, including children, but also its methods and collective punishment which is a Nazi war crime. And UN statistics have also shown that it is almost in any case Israel that reignites violence after a mull. And keeping a people under blockade or belligerent occupation is constant waging war against them. Including the countless Israeli incursions into the Gaza ship.

        DaBakr: “If you sound bother to read an unbiased account of this 34.5 billion your so enraged about you would then know that more then 90% comes back to the US (military industrial complex, no doubt about that) in the form of payments from Israel, field testing experimental weaponry for real time use and in millions in contracts for US companies as well as jobs.”

        ROFL. So it is like: We give you 34.5 billion for free, but only if you buy from us what you want from us anyway. Or: How about us giving you military goods and services which would cost 34.5 billions for free?

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 9, 2018, 6:14 am

        @ec

        So, you write about denial. I suppose you deny the billion dollar contracts with: US, Britain, Brazil, Nicaragua, India, China, Japan, Canada, Russia and a dozen other nations in fields ranging from your dreaded and hatred arms and security to big agro, big pharma, water management and medical equipment. If you want to live like a blind mole rat then live like a blind mole rat

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 19, 2018, 12:26 am

        @all
        You think the tunnel building is cheap and doesn’t steal concrete and steel meant for homes?

        You all bitch about US arms to Israel but never have a peep to say about KSA, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon(the joke country), Iraq(which goes to Iran advisors), Bahrain, and others. These are all avowed enemies of Israel and the totals most likely exceed the amounts given to Israel.

        You also seem to be quiet as mice about the billions in arms given by the Russians to Iran and may others. You people just can’t admit that your strictly obsessed with Israel and Israel alone. You may all be anti-american. Pro-iranian, pro-chinese, pro-russian but one could only tell from MW commenters that it’s Israel that is the cause of all problems. Haven’t heard that before

  7. catalan
    catalan
    September 6, 2018, 9:47 pm

    “Not “somehow”. Seeing how you Zionist crazies cannot bend or compromise” echinococcus
    What is a bending or compromise that would be acceptable?

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      September 6, 2018, 10:57 pm

      Stupid question, Catalan, as no compromise at all was condescended to, not even an unacceptable one, in some 100 years by these invading murderers –with no right to anything anywhere in Palestine. We’re not counting the arrangements in front of superior force that were rescinded after a short while, ie when the criminals had regained strength.

  8. Blaine Coleman
    Blaine Coleman
    September 6, 2018, 10:58 pm

    Yes, the campaign to boycott Israel keeps on going.
    You can see the video from a couple of days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FndTjc-1f4E&feature=youtu.be

    Watch it and consider how “Boycott Israel” is now demanded openly on the University of Michigan campus, and also at the Ann Arbor City Council, now, in September 2018. This happened because Israel shot down thousands of unarmed Palestinian human rights marchers all Spring and Summer.

    • drhmay
      drhmay
      September 7, 2018, 11:56 am

      According to Hamas which everyone knows is impeccable with their reporting and famous for allowing free speech and unfettered reporting in Gaza. (Sarcasm)

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 7, 2018, 1:48 pm

        drhmay: “According to Hamas which everyone knows is impeccable with their reporting and famous for allowing free speech and unfettered reporting in Gaza. (Sarcasm).”

        Yeah, imagine they could silence any criticism of them worldwide abusing the accusation of racism and bringing countries down their knees to even create laws to prevent it. Nothing is more fascist than a racist international thought police, isn’t it?

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 19, 2018, 12:33 am

        @Dr

        Actually, Hamas is usually very honest, in Arabic press and media. They may use numbers of dead to hurt Israel at first but within a short time the dead that were actually militants are listed, honoured and martyred. In fact, as long as you can read or understand Arabic one will find the enemies of Israel are honest about their goals. The western press are mostly idiot sychophants. North and PW included.

  9. Misterioso
    Misterioso
    September 7, 2018, 10:43 am

    Meanwhile:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/05/paraguay-jerusalem-embassy-moves-to-tel-aviv

    The Guardian, Sept. 5/18

    “Diplomatic crisis unfolds as Israel says ‘unusual’ decision ‘will strain the ties between the countries.’”

    By Oliver Holmes in Jerusalem.

    “Outcry from Israel after Paraguay moves its Jerusalem embassy back to Tel Aviv”

    EXCERPT:
    “Paraguay has reversed a decision to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem after just three months, prompting anger from Israel which responded by shuttering its embassy in Asunción and recalling its ambassador.

    “The South American country announced in May that it would follow Donald Trump’s lead by relocating the mission to the holy city, all of which Israel claims as its capital even as Palestinians and most world powers argue its status remains under dispute.

    “Former president Horacio Cartes personally inaugurated the new diplomatic site. The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said at the time that Paraguay, the third country after the United States and Guatemala to make the move, had taken a ‘bold stance in international affairs’.

    “However, Paraguay’s new president, Mario Abdo Benítez, who took office last month, reviewed the choice and his foreign minister told reporters on Wednesday that the decision had been changed.

    “’Paraguay wants to contribute to an intensification of regional diplomatic efforts to achieve a broad, fair and lasting peace in the Middle East,’ Luis Alberto Castiglioni said.

    “Shortly after, Netanyahu’s office responded by saying it will close its Paraguay embassy and recall its ambassador for consultations. ‘Israel views with great severity the unusual decision by Paraguay that will strain the ties between the countries,’ a brief statement said.”

  10. CHUCKMAN
    CHUCKMAN
    September 7, 2018, 12:08 pm

    “Responds to real pressure…”

    Yes, indeed.

    Which is why a solution to this brutal and terrifying situation has always been the responsibility of the US.

    And a little serious pressure could sweep it away.

    I think we all understand why such pressure is not going to happen.

    And it is an indictment of the way American politics work.

    Readers may enjoy:

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/07/22/john-chuckman-comment-how-american-politics-really-work-why-there-are-terrible-candidates-and-constant-wars-and-peoples-problems-are-ignored-why-heroes-like-julian-assange-are-persecuted-and-r/

  11. genesto
    genesto
    September 7, 2018, 4:33 pm

    “— because the Palestinian people will never give up their fight. ”

    The Zionists leadership has never gotten this message and so, like madmen who keep doing the same thing expecting different results, they will continue to wage war on the Palestinians – until it completely consumes them!

  12. satrappist
    satrappist
    September 13, 2018, 10:00 am

    @ddddowaitingtoberisendoughbakr

    “..little bareing..”

    “..little bearing..”

    i would suggest be correct spelling cobber

    as a relatively recent familiarista to this site

    you an’ yours, to me, bare more, more than p’rap’s you know, of that that comprise your soul/s

    i trust the fivesixty second, locally applied environment n’er apply, directly, to you

    and

    generally

    whilst far more knowledgeable than i construct ridgydidge ripostes to hasbaristas such as you

    seems to me

    cobber

    entropy ain’t ever gunna provide you decent

    coffee

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