Trending Topics:

NYT’s Bret Stephens says US Jews won’t abandon Israel because Israelis are ‘hot’

US Politics
on 46 Comments

New York Times columnist Bret Stephens spoke about the relationship between American Jews and Israel at Park Avenue synagogue in New York last month (in a video that has just been posted) and said he’s not worried about Americans losing faith because Israelis are so sexually attractive to American Jews.

Look, the relationship is basically a pretty healthy one. The real concern is whether younger American Jews feel the same kind of connection that my generation or older generations felt. I suspect in some ways it might be a stronger connection. When I was 15 I spent a summer on a kibbutz, Kibbut Heftziba, up near Afula. I did that because I had some relatives who lived on the kibbutz, and it wasn’t easy as a 15-year-old to go. Now because of Birthright, it’s fantastic, and not only do you go, but you hook up! So it’s like a twofer, and that’s the explicit purpose. It’s like, Discover your Judaism, and she’s hot! You know… I just want to take account of something that’s very positive….

Affiliation and affinity with Israel tends to trace the life cycle. Sometimes when you’re very young you’re enthusiastic, then you’re indifferent, then you’re sometimes almost hostile. Then things change and you have kids and you want to take them to Israel for their bar mitzvah and then you look around and say, What an amazing country and everyone’s attractive. Look at him! [copanelist Tal Keinan] The perfect specimen!.. He wasn’t this goodlooking at Exeter!

Stephens said that Israel should do nothing on the question of Palestinian sovereignty right now, despite the crisis among liberal Zionists, because Palestinians have not changed their “character.” “What is the character of the Palestinian state that we are trying so desperately to midwife into existence?” he asked. The Palestinians and the Arab world must undergo a “transformation” and accept Israel on its terms and then Palestinians can have a state. Lots of people want a state, he went on. “The Catalans want a state, and Tibetans want a state and the Tamils want a state and the Kurds want a state, and the Texans want a state. But they don’t get a state, so why should you have a state? Give us a reason. But nobody says this.”

In these comments, Stephens spoke of Israel as “we.” “There are all kinds of problems in our lives where you just hold off until some ripening occurs…. We have to wait until that moment… The best option is do nothing. Because in theory what we desperately need is a two state solution. But we need a two state solution where the second state, where the Palestinian state, looks like Costa Rica, and not Libya, or Yemen or Lebanon.”

Stephens also said that anti-Zionists are anti-Semites. “For a long time I have said that anti-Zionism is the modern face of anti-Semitism… [a] shapeshifting phenomenon in which Jews are hated for religious reasons, and then hated for racial reasons, and now are hated for national reasons. And yet the hatred remains the same…. No one better encapsulates that sort of fanaticism than the leader of Her Majesty’s disreputable opposition.” I.e., Jeremy Corbyn.

He said he was also frightened by white nationalists. N.b. This was before Pittsburgh.

P.S. Re entitlement. Stephens at one point cited the late Washington fixer Clark Clifford and said he got $10,000 for a meeting in 1971, “which was actual money back then.” I think for a lot of people $10,000 is a lot of money now too.

H/t Allison Deger and James North. 

philweiss
About Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.

Other posts by .


Posted In:

46 Responses

  1. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    November 13, 2018, 2:19 pm

    RE: “NYT’s Bret Stephens says US Jews won’t abandon Israel because Israelis are ‘hot’”

    IN OTHER WORDS: Jewish Americans are not (“hot”). They are inferior to the “hot” Israelis!

    P.S. Is Bolsonaro “hot”? What about Orbán? Duterte? MBS?
    Are fascists just plain “hot” by their very (violent) nature?

    P.P.S. I do pretty much think Bret Stephens is a neo-fascist. Much like Stephen Miller.

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson
      November 13, 2018, 2:34 pm

      As is Politico’s Matthew Karnitschnig.

      CGTN America
      Published on Nov 5, 2018
      Monday marks the first day of a new wave of economic sanctions on Iran. This time, the U.S. government is focusing on Iran’s biggest export – oil. But, its granted temporary waivers to some of Iran’s biggest trading partners. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo took to the Sunday talk shows to explain the American position. Notably left out of the waivers? The European Union. Despite a close alliance with the United States, the EU issued a strong rebuke upon announcement of the new round of sanctions. The EU is also working hard to maintain the Iran nuclear deal that the U.S. pulled out of last year. Iranians took the streets over the weekend in protest of the sanctions. To discuss all of this: Mohammad Marandi is a professor at the University of Tehran. Negar Mortazavi is an Iranian-American journalist. Matthew Karnitschnig is chief Europe correspondent for Politico. John Sitilides is geopolitical strategist at Trilogy Advisors, a firm specializing in international security, government affairs and political communications.

      P.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was refreshingly honest last week when, speaking about newly-imposed US sanctions, he told the BBC that the Iranian leadership “has to make a decision that they want their people to eat.” It was an honest admission that new US sanctions are designed to starve Iranians unless the Iranian leadership accepts US demands.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      November 14, 2018, 9:48 am

      @JLewisDickerson, et al

      “New York Times columnist Bret Stephens spoke about the relationship between American Jews and Israel at Park Avenue synagogue in New York last month (in a video that has just been posted) and said he’s not worried about Americans losing faith because Israelis are so sexually attractive to American Jews.”

      Ha, ha. How old is this jerk Bret Stephens? About 15?

      A brief look at reality:
      “Support for Israel among American Jewish college students and young American Jews in general is in decline” – Times of Israel, June 21/17:
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/devastating-survey-shows-huge-loss-of-israel-support-among-jewish-college-students/

      https://www.haaretz.com/israel -news/.premium-jewish-agency- chief-warns-young-u-s-jews- more-turned-off-to-israel-1. 5751616
      Haaretz – Jan 22, 2018, by Judy Maltz
      “’Young American Jews Increasingly Turning Away From Israel, Jewish Agency Leader Warns’”
      “The Jewish Agency’s CEO and director-general called the trend ‘extremely worrisome,’ and said that a new strategy must be undertaken to engage young American Jews with Israel.”

      https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-progressives-welcome-aipac-is-all-just-gaslighting-1.5871623?utm_campaign=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_source=smartfocus&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fopinion%2F.premium-progressives-welcome-aipac-is-all-just-gaslighting-1.5871623
      “Why Young Jews and Democrats Are Waving Goodbye to AIPAC”
      “’My generation has only known Israel as an occupier. We won’t back anyone who supports that injustice – including the powerful lobby that is AIPAC.’”
      By Emily Mayer, March 6, 2018 – Haaretz

      • genesto
        genesto
        November 14, 2018, 6:28 pm

        Chronologically, he’s 45 in one week. However, maturity-wise, he IS about 15 years old. His knowledge of the Palestinian people, his obsession with hotness over character, and just his general behavior is that of a pubescent teenager. Unfortunately he is tasked with writing columns for a major metropolitan daily that too many people, most of all ardent Zionists, take much too seriously.

  2. eljay
    eljay
    November 13, 2018, 2:49 pm

    … Affiliation and affinity with Israel tends to trace the life cycle. Sometimes when you’re very young you’re enthusiastic, then you’re indifferent, then you’re sometimes almost hostile. Then things change and you have kids and you want to take them to Israel for their bar mitzvah and then you look around and say, What an amazing country and everyone’s attractive. Look at him! [copanelist Tal Keinan] The perfect specimen! …

    Ah, the beauty, the perfection, the purity, the Übermensch-ness of it all!

    He’s including the 20% of Israelis who are not Jews, right?

    No, of course he isn’t.

    … Lots of people want a state, he went on. “The Catalans want a state, and Tibetans want a state and the Tamils want a state and the Kurds want a state, and the Texans want a state. But they don’t get a state, so why should you have a state? …

    Good question. It’s unfortunate no-one bothered to confront Jewish supremacists (Zionists) with that question instead of just handing them the keys to (geographic) Palestine.

  3. Eva Smagacz
    Eva Smagacz
    November 13, 2018, 3:27 pm

    “… Lots of people want a state, he went on. “The Catalans want a state, and Tibetans want a state and the Tamils want a state and the Kurds want a state, and the Texans want a state. But they don’t get a state, so why should you have a state? …”

    Frankly, like Catalans, Tibetans, Tamils and Kurds, Palestinians would happily accept citizenship of country that they are trying to gain independence from and be treated as equal under the country law, which would put them on the same footing as Catalans, Tibetans, Tamils and Kurds.

    169/184

    • mondonut
      mondonut
      November 13, 2018, 9:40 pm

      @Eva Smagacz, Palestinians would happily accept citizenship of country that they are trying to gain independence from …

      Except for all those permanent residents of Jerusalem, who entitled to apply for citizenship since 1952, have nonetheless failed to do so.

      • Eva Smagacz
        Eva Smagacz
        November 14, 2018, 6:14 am

        Mondonut, you said:

        “Except for all those permanent residents of Jerusalem, who entitled to apply for citizenship since 1952, have nonetheless failed to do so.”

        You mean you are shocked, shocked ! that the Palestinian didn’t fall for that trick of separating them from each other and dealing with them piecemeal?

        You know very well that meaningful citizenship will only be acquired if everybody under occupation will be given citizenship.

        So, to this end, for the last 70 years, you were trying to divide the Palestinians into the four discrete groups:
        Jerusamites, Gazans, Palestinians of West Bank, and Arabs of 48.

        But then you know this, don’t you?

        170/185

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        November 14, 2018, 9:18 am

        @modonut

        “Except for all those permanent residents of Jerusalem, who entitled to apply for citizenship since 1952, have nonetheless failed to do so.”

        Sigh.
        As Eva correctly observes, an inane comment. At least, you’re consistent. Go back to sleep.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        November 14, 2018, 9:42 am

        @Eva Smagacz, You mean you are shocked, shocked ! that the Palestinian didn’t fall for that trick of separating them from each other and dealing with them piecemeal? You know very well that meaningful citizenship will only be acquired if everybody under occupation will be given citizenship.

        I am shocked that you would double down on such a demonstrably false claim. Contrary to your deliberate falsehood, the individual choice to gain Israeli citizenship was offered to hundreds of thousands Palestinians. By and large they have chosen not to. That is an individual, not a group, choice.

        And it i ridiculous to presume that Israel would offer citizenship to anyone not living in Israel who otherwise does not already have that right. Why would they and when in the history of planet earth has that happened?

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        November 14, 2018, 11:05 am

        @modonut

        Surely, it’s easy to understand why in 1952 and hence, West Jerusalem Palestinian Muslims and Christians who including their ancestors, have lived continuously between the River and the Sea for about 15,000 years, would not want to become “citizens” of what was then and remains an apartheid entity created by Zionist Jews of foreign origin and self proclaimed to be a “Jewish State.”

        Hendrik Verwoerd, then prime minister of South Africa and the architect of South Africa’s apartheid policies, 1961: “Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state.” (Rand Daily Mail, November 23, 1961)

        Jacobus Johannes Fouché, South African Minister of Defence during the apartheid era, compared the two states and said that Israel also practiced apartheid. (Gideon Shimoni (1980). Jews and Zionism: The South African Experience 1910-1967. Cape Town: Oxford UP. pp. 310–336. ISBN 0195701798.

        “Former Foreign Ministry director-general invokes South Africa comparisons. ‘Joint Israel-West Bank’ reality is an apartheid state”
        EXCERPT: “Similarities between the ‘original apartheid’ as it was practiced in South Africa and the situation in ISRAEL [my emphasis] and the West Bank today ‘scream to the heavens,’ added [Alon] Liel, who was Israel’s ambassador in Pretoria from 1992 to 1994. There can be little doubt that the suffering of Palestinians is not less intense than that of blacks during apartheid-era South Africa, he asserted.” (Times of Israel, February 21, 2013)

        The entity known as “Israel” also differentiates between citizenship and nationality, i.e., “Israeli” nationality does not exist, only Jews and non-Jews, and each citizen carries an appropriate identity card. While the implications of this absurdity for discrimination and racism against non-Jews are obvious, it has been upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court.

        The effect of Israel’s blatantly racist “Citizenship Law” and more than fifty other restrictions Arab citizens have to endure is well expressed by writer and Knesset member, Ahmed Tibi, “…dutifully defining the state [of Israel] as ‘Jewish and democratic,’ ignores the fact that in practice ‘democratic’ refers to Jews, and the Arabs are nothing more than citizens without citizenship.” (Ma’ariv, 1.6.2005)

        BTW, we should not forget that between March and early May, 1948, Jewish forces dispossessed and expelled 60,000 Palestinians from West Jerusalem. They were not permitted to return.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 12:00 pm

        “And it i ridiculous to presume that Israel would offer citizenship to anyone not living in Israel ” mondonut

        Unless they are Illegal squatters living in not Israel.

        BTW , what are Israel,s borders.

        Just asking —-again.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 12:05 pm

        ” As Eva correctly observes, an inane comment. At least, you’re consistent. Go back to sleep.” Misterioso to mondonut

        Please to not advise him to go back to sleep.

        He dreams up all this inane blather in his sleep.No sane person could come up with this nonsense while awake .

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        November 14, 2018, 1:29 pm

        @Misterioso Surely, it’s easy to understand why in 1952 and hence,

        The claim was that “Palestinians would happily accept citizenship of country that they are trying to gain independence from “.

        Is your massive cut and paste job supporting that claim or disagreeing with it?

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        November 14, 2018, 1:32 pm

        @amigo He dreams up all this inane blather in his sleep

        Argumentum ad Hominem.

        Typical.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        November 14, 2018, 1:43 pm

        @amigo Unless they are Illegal squatters living in not Israel. BTW , what are Israel,s borders.

        Unless you can show otherwise, Israel does not offer citizenship to anyone not living in what they claim as Israel who is not otherwise entitled to it. Regardless of whether or not they are illegally squatting.

        As for Israel’s borders, it is no great secret. Their borders with every adjoining country is established (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt). The borders of Jersusalem are established. Official borders with Gaza and the territory in dispute in the West Bank remain to be determined by way of the negotiations the Palestinians refuse to engage in.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 2:49 pm

        “Argumentum ad Hominem.” mondonut

        Argumentum ad Negatio, Negatio,Negatio.

        Typical.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 3:18 pm

        “Unless you can show otherwise, Israel does not offer citizenship to anyone not living in what they claim as Israel who is not otherwise entitled to it. Regardless of whether or not they are illegally squatting. “mondonut

        Thanks for pointing out the crux of the matter.

        Citizens of Israel (Jewish Only) who are illegally transferred to not Israel are there in contravention of the 4th GC art 49.

        It doesn,t matter what Israel claims and only a demented zionist like yourself would think otherwise.

        Oh btw , the borders with Syria have not been established except in the Opinion of Israel.

        Wakey , wakey mondonut.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        November 14, 2018, 3:44 pm

        @amigo It doesn,t matter what Israel claims and only a demented zionist like yourself would think otherwise.

        You asked about their borders and they have claimed borders, so it is entirely about what Israel claims. As for Syria, that is what is known as a territorial border dispute, there are hundreds of them throughout the world. It does not make Israel’s border claim non-existent.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

        And once again, it is Israel offering Israeli citizenship to persons who reside in what Israel believes to be Israel. That was the question at hand, and so once again – what Israel claims in entirely the point.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 4:10 pm

        “Official borders with Gaza and the territory in dispute in the West Bank remain to be determined by way of the negotiations the Palestinians refuse to engage in.” mondonut

        Negotiate with who.

        Negotiate about what.

        1 netanyahu

        -election/netanyahu-says-no-palestinian-state-as-long-as-hes-prime-minister-idUSKBN0MC1I820150316

        2 bennet

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/07/naftali-bennett-interview-jewish-home

        “There is not going to be a Palestinian state within the tiny land of Israel,” he said, referring to the area from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean. “It’s just not going to happen. A Palestinian state would be a disaster for the next 200 years.”Naftali Bennet

        3, lieberman

        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-defense-minister-palestinian-state-doesn-t-interest-me-1.6511926

        My question for you mondonut is ,

        What are the descendants of the 6 million murdered Jews going to do with the millions of Palestinians still hanging around your Greater Israel when it is achieved.Do you have a final solution worked out.

        Will you use railway wagons to transport them out of your Historic Homeland or will you initiate a shoot to kill policy against those who refuse to leave.Do share.

        It,s a real problem eh mondonut but I am sure a dedicated fascist such as yourself has some ideas.

        To say that you disgust me would be a gross under statement.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2018, 5:44 pm

        “3, lieberman”

        Two out of three ain’t bad. Lieberman just resigned, and I believe, took his party with him.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        November 14, 2018, 6:16 pm

        ‘Ad’ takes the accusative, hominem being accusative of homo = human being. So ‘argument to denial’ = ‘argumentum ad negationem’.

      • amigo
        amigo
        November 14, 2018, 7:39 pm

        “So ‘argument to denial’ = ‘argumentum ad negationem’.”MHughes976

        Go raibh mait agut , a chara .

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        November 14, 2018, 9:52 pm

        “And it i ridiculous to presume that Israel would offer citizenship to anyone not living in Israel ”

        Britain gave British citizenship to many people who were not living in Britain but in parts of the British Empire. The reasoning was that Britain felt a responsibility for the situation of those people.

        If Israel had a whisper of decency, it would offer citizenship to all Palestinians (including those in the camps) who have not accepted citizenship in another country.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      November 14, 2018, 5:05 am

      Exactly. I am certainly not saying the situation is perfect for any of the above groups – though the Catalans have it pretty good by just about any standard – but it’s a false equivalance. Tibetans, Tamils, Kurds etc have full citizenship of the nations they live in. Yes, they may face discrimination but it is not the same thing as being stateless and living under an ever-encroaching military occupation.

      And if this person – whoever he is – is asking the ‘why should you have a state?’ question, then why should Jews have a state? There is no instance in history of a religious group emigrating en masse to a distant country, displacing and killing the native peoples who did not practice their religion, and setting up a state for the exclusive benefit of thier religious group.

      • Elizabeth Block
        Elizabeth Block
        November 14, 2018, 12:28 pm

        Catalans, yes. Tibetans, certainly not. Neither do Kurds or Tamils.

        As for Bret Stephens’s “argument,” it’s interesting to see how the Zionist defence of Israel has deteriorated over the years. I actually met a Zionist who brought out the old canard that the “Arabs” weren’t making good use of the land – but he was very young, and had probably lived all his life in a Jewish Zionist bubble.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        November 14, 2018, 12:34 pm

        “Tibetans, certainly not. Neither do Kurds or Tamils”

        I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Are you suggesting that the above peoples do not hold full citizenship in the nations they live in?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2018, 2:14 pm

        ” I actually met a Zionist who brought out the old canard that the “Arabs” weren’t making good use of the land “

        He was here yesterday or the day before. You just missed him.

    • Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield
      November 14, 2018, 11:54 am

      Of course, being a Palestinian yourself, as is obvious from your name, you are well qualified to judge what Palestinians would happily accept, unhappily accept, happily reject, etc. But hold on a second… You are equally confident in your knowledge of what Catalans, Tibetans, Tamils, and Kurds would happily accept etc… I expect that is because you have spent at least five years living in each of Catalonia, Tibet, Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, the Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish, and Syrian parts of Kurdistan… Remarkable.

  4. Citizen
    Citizen
    November 13, 2018, 5:25 pm

    So Jewish Israelis are “hot”? Apparently, so were members of the Hitler Youth. For example, At the 1936 Nuremberg Rally, where there were some 100,000 participants of the HJ and Girls’ League present, upwards of 900 girls between fifteen and eighteen years of age returned home pregnant.

    The numerous pregnancies among the BDM girls gave the group a new nickname: ‘Bund Deutsche Matratzen’ — League of German Mattresses.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      November 14, 2018, 8:30 am

      Israeli Soldier Super Sperm Is The Latest Craze – YouTube

      They want sperm ‘with combat experience’. The nazis would be so envious.

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw
        November 14, 2018, 12:46 pm

        Yeah Marnie, and it will whiten your teeth too.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 14, 2018, 1:35 pm

        “They want sperm ‘with combat experience’”

        Sperm that has defeated every autosomal recessive in sight!

      • eljay
        eljay
        November 14, 2018, 2:08 pm

        || Jackdaw: Yeah Marnie, and it will whiten your teeth too. ||

        This explains the brilliant smiles of pro-Israel politicians.

      • Keith
        Keith
        November 14, 2018, 5:33 pm

        JACKDAW- “Yeah Marnie, and it will whiten your teeth too.”

        Speaking from personal experience?

      • Jackdaw
        Jackdaw
        November 15, 2018, 12:55 am

        @Keith

        Yes it is.
        Why is that so hard for you to swallow?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        November 15, 2018, 6:14 pm

        “Yes it is.” “Jackdaw”

        Well then, no use crying over spilled milt. We’ll have to defer to “Jackdaw”, the man with personal experience of its tonic and nutritive properties.

  5. Citizen
    Citizen
    November 13, 2018, 5:35 pm
  6. annie
    annie
    November 13, 2018, 8:07 pm

    i think there’s a chance stephen’s story about clifford morphed over the years. this is from 1991

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/04/04/mr-fix-it-a-democratic-tradition-from-clark-clifford-to-ron-brown/92cb74f8-e1aa-4b68-9206-fe33e2b5fae0/?utm_term=.06e11f4fddc0

    Clifford became, in his publisher’s accurate description, “Washington’s ultimate insider” and “the Democratic party’s preeminent wise man.” His memoirs do not include the most famous anecdote, possibly apocryphal, about his law practice. That’s the one about the client who is having trouble with a regulatory agency and asks Clifford what to do. Clifford advises, “Do nothing,” and sends a bill for $5,000. The client calls Clifford and says, “At least tell me why I should do nothing.” Clifford says, “Because I said so,” and sends a bill for $10,000.

  7. John Douglas
    John Douglas
    November 13, 2018, 10:46 pm

    Stephens: “Now because of Birthright, it’s fantastic, and not only do you go, but you hook up! So it’s like a twofer. And that’s the explicit purpose . . Discover your Judaism, and she’s hot!”

    So according to Mr. Exeter it’s , “Send your 15 year old daughter to lose her cherry to the IDF and she’ll love Israel forever.” ” … that’s the explicit purpose.”

    All I can think is, “It’s a long way down for the NY Times from Anthony Lewis to Frat Boy Exeter.

  8. Marnie
    Marnie
    November 14, 2018, 8:24 am

    Zionist pimp.

    Leviticus 19:29
    “Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.”

    Oops.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      November 14, 2018, 9:50 am

      @Marnie

      BINGO!!

      • genesto
        genesto
        November 14, 2018, 6:53 pm

        Yeah, Birthright is engaging in the world’s oldest profession.

        But, of course, anything goes in Zioworld!!

  9. JoeSmack
    JoeSmack
    November 14, 2018, 9:50 am

    Sounds like the next Birthright cohort will be made up of unattractive men.

    Israel: The Brothel of States.

  10. niass2
    niass2
    November 14, 2018, 11:34 am

    I used to read the NYT also, but its quality seemed to decrease, so if they have anything interesting, which this isn’t, I see it in news aggregation sites or whatever. I don’t know anyone who reads daily or subscribes anymore. As such on to the next issue. Who reads newspapers anyways? People with cash to toss. We don’t know who bret stephens is or really care what he thinks. Its unimportant. The Boston Globe is rather news light also these days, but if you want to know all about Tom Brady its the go to source.

  11. amigo
    amigo
    November 14, 2018, 5:05 pm

    A very interesting article on Haaretz . (no paywall on this)

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-twisted-logic-of-the-jewish-historic-right-to-israel-1.6654428

    Example .

    “The founding myth of Zionism – which proceeds in an unbroken line from Max Nordau and Arthur Ruppin, to worrisome geneticists in several Israeli universities and at Yeshiva University in New York – acts as the principal ideological glue for the nation’s everlasting unity, and today more than ever. The justification for Zionist settlement/colonization (choose your preferred term – they mean the same thing) is the meta-paradigm that is expressed in the declaration of the establishment of the state, namely: “We were here, we were uprooted, we came back.” Shlomo Sand

    Great read.

Leave a Reply