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While apartheid, military occupation, and even ethnic cleansing, have at times surfaced in mainstream discussions, these phenomena are not Israel’s ultimate crimes. They are means to control Palestinian lives and, as such, symptoms of the ongoing Nakba. But they are effectively part of a structure that is rarely verbalized: Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian population.

Genocidal intent has been present in Zionist thought and practice. Like Jabotinsky’s fantasy of the iron wall, the early Zionists’ dreams of removing Palestinians physically and discursively have realized to a certain extent and continue to threaten Palestinian survival.

As the fulfillment of Zionism and the survival of Israeli ethnocracy necessitate the removal of the indigenous population, Palestinians are experiencing a confluence of settler-colonial inscription and indigenous erasure. These dynamics are evident in the ever-evolving methods and realizations of violence that are manifest in manifold -cides, i.e. the intentional destruction and/or theft of everything Palestinian, including Palestinian geography, landscape, history, culture, cuisine, flora, and Palestinians as a people. Thus, Israel’s policies, which are encouraged – or at least accepted – by the majority of the international community, can be subsumed as Palestinicides.

Zionists have constantly refashioned their dehumanizing rhetoric for rationalizing the extermination of Palestinians. The indigenous population has been constructed as invisible subjects in the myth of “a land without a people for a people without a land” and transformed into non-human natives, an Oriental plague, a Communist threat, security problems, terrorists, “Islamists,” and anti-Semites.

Israeli political and military leaders have traditionally referred to Palestinians as a disease, plague, or insects, withcancerous manifestation” that necessitates “chemotherapy”, “drugged cockroaches in a bottle,” “beasts walking on two legs,” and “the biggest failure in the history of the human race” being only some examples.

As a demographic threat or ethnic timebomb, Palestinians have been criminalized for merely existing and standing in the way of the colonizer. Their collective removal is thus always-already justified.

Israeli minister Lieberman intended to combine the next war against Gazans with a complete destruction of its population. “Justice” minister Shaked called for genocide through Facebook in 2014, proclaiming that “the entire Palestinian people is the enemy,” encouraging the extermination of the Palestinian people, their geography, and infrastructure. Rabbi Noam Perel asked for bloody revenge “that will not stop at 300 Philistine foreskins.” Religious-nationalist IDF commander Ofer Winter declared a “Holy War” against Palestinians, justifying his genocidal plans with the bible. Dov Lior, from the illegal settlement Kiryat Arba, justified an extermination of Palestinians through Jewish law. Deputy-speaker of the Knesset, Moshe Feiglin, asked for the “annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters” and the subsequent shelling of Gaza “with maximum fire power[.]”

In Israeli political language, “fighting forces,” “Hamas,” and “terrorists” are synonymous with “Palestinians,” as the victims are retrospectively transformed into “terrorists,” i.e. legitimate targets. Israel has rationalized genocide into an inevitable means for securing its own survival.

While these examples illustrate the normalcy of genocidal rhetoric in Israeli discourse nowadays, Palestinian reality has long been shaped by the presence of genocide. Like in 1948, Palestinians are today threatened to be gassed to death by Zionists. Like in 1948, Palestinians are killed in genocidal massacres today.

The uncanny political and legal implications of the word genocide limit academic discussions on Palestine as a possible case of genocide. Israel’s supporters rarely hesitate to label human rights advocates as “genocidal” anti-Semites – with the smear campaign against Marc Lamont Hill being only the latest example. But, if extending universal human rights onto Palestinians would constitute a “genocide” according to the Zionist lexicon, where do we even begin to debate the multidimensional –cides committed against Palestinians?

The omission of the Nakba from Western historiography and Genocide studies continues to marginalize Palestinians. Rashed, Short, and Docker argue that the field of Genocide studies has been characterized by the lack of a substantial debate of Israel as a possible example of a nation founded on genocide and a simultaneous fear of becoming victim of Zionist intimidation. The authors claim that through the omission of Palestine/Israel as a possible case study, major publications within Genocide studies “represent an archive of Nakba denial.”

The term genocide, coined by Raphael Lemkin, stems from the Greek genes, meaning “tribe” or “race,” and the Latin –cide, meaning “killing.” According to Lemkin, “genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation,” but should rather “signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.” Lemkin defines the objectives of genocide as “disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.”

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948, criminalizes genocide under international law, defining it as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group[.]” The extensive definition of genocide also includes the conspiracy and incitement to commit genocide.

This definition itself refutes Zionist claims that Israel could not be committing a genocide as it was not systematically physically exterminating each and every Palestinian.

Referencing Lemkin’s definition, Rashed, Short, and Docker claim that there is a very strong argument that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians. Human rights lawyer Michael Ratner concluded there is “no doubt” that Israel’s policies since 1947 have amounted to what Ilan Pappé described as “incremental genocide.” Professor and lawyer Francis Boyle concluded that Zionist terror groups and later Israel have committed a continuing genocide that began in 1948 and that includes a ruthless implementation of “a systematic and comprehensive military, political, religious, economic, and cultural campaign with the intent to destroy in substantial part the national, ethnical, racial, and different religious group (Jews versus Muslims and Christians) constituting the Palestinian people.”

The perpetration of genocide is accompanied by its denial. Israel tends to paradoxically fantasize about and simultaneously deny genocide against Palestinians. The terms genocide, Holocaust, or Shoa have been used by Israeli politicians as characterizations of attacks against Palestinians, while the Palestinians are blamed in advance for the genocide which should exterminate them. Naftali Bennett proudly announced that Palestinians would commit a “self-genocide.”

Adhering to this rhetoric, Western media has long blamed Palestinians for their own death, justifying Israel’s massacres in the Great Return March, alleging that Palestinians were harming themselves on purpose in their backward culture of victimhood and violence, or that they were, as Bari Weiss claimed, going on suicide missions to die for a photo op.

Palestinians are blamed for their existence, as they would need to disappear and vacate Palestine in order for Zionism to fulfill.

The refusal to discuss Israel as potentially genocidal is another documentation of the academic, political, and legal dehumanization of Palestinians, since acknowledging, or even elaborating on, the exercise of a genocide against a people presupposes the inclusion of this people into the category of humanity. The disregard for Palestinian lives, however, is not an event, but a structure deeply embedded in Euro-American cultures, in which Palestinians cannot be considered victims, or, being worthy of genocidal extermination.

About Denijal Jegić

Denijal Jegić is a postdoctoral scholar. He holds a PhD from the Institute for Transnational American Studies, Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz). You can follow him on Twitter @denijeg.

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  1. mondonut
    mondonut
    December 11, 2018, 12:35 pm

    “The number of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip has risen from 2,895,683 in 1997 to 4,780,978 in 2017, the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics said Wednesday.”

    It appears the opposite is true.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-census-4-7-million-in-west-bank-and-gaza-strip/

    • bcg
      bcg
      December 11, 2018, 1:18 pm

      @Mondonut: Huh? The link you’ve supplied says… “The number of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip has risen from 2,895,683 in 1997 to 4,780,978 in 2017, the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics said Wednesday. …Israel’s leading demographics expert defended the military figures indicating the number of Arabs will soon equal that of Jews in Israel and the Palestinian territories….Sergio DellaPergola, a demographer from Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, said the numbers of Arabs and Jews are nearly equal when you factor in the population of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem along with the population of Israel.”

      And the title to the article states “Figures dovetail with Israeli military’s assessment implying looming parity between Jewish and Arab populations in Holy Land”

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        December 12, 2018, 9:11 am

        @Mondonut

        Indigenous Palestinians will soon outnumber Jews between the River and the Sea. They have one of the world’s highest birth rates, Jewish emigration from “Israel” is accelerating and immigration is plummeting because rapidly increasing numbers of Jews born elsewhere, including America, especially youth, are abandoning Zionism and “Israel.”

        Here’s an example:
        https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-sharp-declinein-number-of-american-jews-coming-on-birthright-trips-this-winter-1.6739756

        Haaretz, Dec. 11/18 by Judy Maltz.

        “Sharp Decline in Number of American Jews on Birthright Trips ”

        “Numbers are down as much as 50 percent in some cases, with providers speculating that disengagement with Israel among young U.S. Jews is part of the problem.”

        “Birthright is experiencing a sharp drop in participation rates this current winter season, according to five providers who spoke to Haaretz. The downturn is mainly being felt in the United States,…”

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 11:53 am

        @Misterioso Indigenous Palestinians will soon outnumber Jews between the River and the Sea.

        Again, so what? Israel’s population growth for the past several years is approximately 1.5%, hardly a problem.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 12, 2018, 2:09 pm

        Perhaps a “consensus view” could be adopted.

    • bcg
      bcg
      December 11, 2018, 1:32 pm

      @Mondonut: Oh, I get it! You’re saying: how can there be a genocide when the Palestinian population has increased so much? My bad.

      If you had something to say about the actual content of the article, what would it be?

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 11, 2018, 3:05 pm

        @bcg

        That the populations are nearly equal? Other than it demonstrates yet another false narrative, I would say “So what?”.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      December 12, 2018, 10:08 am

      @mondonut

      Of course, its old news that indigenous Palestinian Arabs will soon outnumber Jews between the River and the Sea. (BTW, they may already be the majority.)

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alon-benmeir/a-plea-for-reason-an-open_b_9299400.html

      “Dear Netanyahu: Radical Zionists Like You Cannot Survive”
      Huffington Post, Feb. 24/16, by Alon Ben-Meir, Senior Fellow, Center for Global Affairs, NYU

      “A Plea For Reason: An Open Letter to Prime Minister Netanyahu”

      EXCERPT:
      “Demographically, the country is facing a grave danger. The number of Israelis emigrating from Israel is roughly equal to the number of those who immigrate to Israel. Nearly one million Israelis, representing 13 percent of the population, emigrated from Israel in the past 20 years. Several polls consistently show that given the opportunity, 30 percent of Israelis would consider leaving the country, mainly for economic reasons and the lack of a prospect of ending the debilitating conflict with the Palestinians.

      “In particular, the immigration of young American and European Jews to Israel is consistently trending downward.”

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 11:29 am

        @Misterioso

        Yes, it is correct that the Palestinians (indigenous and otherwise) will sooner or later outnumber the Jewish people (indigenous and otherwise). Again, so what? That would have no negative effect on Israel.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 12, 2018, 12:11 pm

        “That would have no negative effect on Israel.”

        Exactly! It makes absolutely no difference how few “Jewish people” there are in Israel.
        As long as they are 100% Zionist. Other than that, the number makes no difference.

      • Paranam Kid
        Paranam Kid
        December 12, 2018, 12:39 pm

        @mondonut: thanks for confirming that that is why “Israel” has been carrying out a Palestinicide since the Zionists set foot in Palestine.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 12, 2018, 1:12 pm

        || mon donut: … Yes, it is correct that the Palestinians (indigenous and otherwise) will sooner or later outnumber the Jewish people (indigenous and otherwise). Again, so what? That would have no negative effect on Israel. ||

        This assertion flies in the face of tried-and-true non-Jews are a “demographic threat” to the “Jewish State” Zionist fear-mongering.

  2. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 11, 2018, 2:28 pm

    The bottom line fortunately is that less and less potential colonists particularly the much coveted American variety are make Aliyah to Israel and hopefully those remaining morally conscientious Israeli Jews will get out of the Zionist hellhole leaving effectively a bunch of raving zealots to run what`s left of the show. All the while the native Palestinians cannot be effectively genocided a la Third Reich in full view of the world community and in particular when the shitty little foreign colony which has stolen their land is surrounded by millions upon millions of their fellow Moslems.

    The Zios are so immersed in their sense of entitlement and supremacy that they fail to see that their is no possibility whatsover in the future of a Jews only gated community in Palestine.

    These freaks fully deserve what will be coming their way – they will have truly earned it. Watch out though for all the Yahoos,Bennetts,Shakeds etc suddenly jumping ship and rediscovering and returning to their European and American “roots” when the brown stuff hits the fan.

  3. Citizen
    Citizen
    December 11, 2018, 3:49 pm

    Seems all most influential folks think Jews have a patent on the word “genocide.” Where is the gypsy state? Has Israel or USA ever confirmed the genocide of the Armenians? Hitler disarmed his doubters in his Table Talks, when he asked rhetorically, ” Who remembers the Armenians?” So, Bubi, what’s new?

    • annie
      annie
      December 11, 2018, 4:04 pm

      Has Israel or USA ever confirmed the genocide of the Armenians?

      it’s politicized, they change w/the wind depending on our foreign policy w/turkey. i’m still waiting for the US to recognize our genocide of native americans.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      December 11, 2018, 6:33 pm

      Apparently there is a bit of doubt whether Hitler actually said that. I’m not sure it is important. More important is to remember that, when allegedly said it, he actually was urging his commanders to exterminate the Poles. All of them.

      • Paranam Kid
        Paranam Kid
        December 12, 2018, 12:41 pm

        @RoHa: indeed, it’s important to keep things in their original context.

  4. bcg
    bcg
    December 11, 2018, 5:35 pm

    @Mondonut: “That the populations are nearly equal? Other than it demonstrates yet another false narrative, I would say “So what?”.”

    So the populations are nearly equal but one ethnic group controls everything, and the dominant ethnic group says…”israeli political and military leaders have traditionally referred to Palestinians as a disease, plague, or insects, with “cancerous manifestation” that necessitates “chemotherapy”, “drugged cockroaches in a bottle,” “beasts walking on two legs,” and “the biggest failure in the history of the human race” being only some examples.

    So what? How about apartheid, or an ongoing ethnic cleansing?

    • mondonut
      mondonut
      December 11, 2018, 7:54 pm

      @bcg, How about apartheid, or an ongoing ethnic cleansing?

      Nice try on moving the goalposts but the claim is genocide.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 12, 2018, 12:01 am

        It doesn’t matter what you believe mondonut; you will not be moved because you don’t want to be. What you think and choose to believe is your misfortune, but you can’t claim at some point, which you probably will, that you ‘didn’t know’.

        ‘As the fulfillment of Zionism and the survival of Israeli ethnocracy necessitate the removal of the indigenous population, Palestinians are experiencing a confluence of settler-colonial inscription and indigenous erasure. These dynamics are evident in the ever-evolving methods and realizations of violence that are manifest in manifold -cides, i.e. the intentional destruction and/or theft of everything Palestinian, including Palestinian geography, landscape, history, culture, cuisine, flora, and Palestinians as a people. Thus, Israel’s policies, which are encouraged – or at least accepted – by the majority of the international community, can be subsumed as Palestinicides.’

        Little ben and bat israeli freak out when they hear arabic. They want to continue in the fairy tale belief that the land is theirs and they are righteous and the god they profess no belief of said so. How ignorant the masses are, to fear a language that’s older than their own ‘history’ and the patchwork quilt ‘hebrew’ they were taught to speak, denying the language spoken by the caretakers of the land it’s place as an official language.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 11:56 am

        @Marnie …but you can’t claim at some point, which you probably will, that you ‘didn’t know’.

        I didn’t know what? That the story you are commenting on is about genocide and not ethnic cleansing? Or that those terms have entirely different meanings? Or that genocide is a demonstrably false claim like so many others made by supporters of Palestine?

      • Paranam Kid
        Paranam Kid
        December 12, 2018, 12:45 pm

        @mondonut: that you did not know about the genocide of the Palestinians, feigning the same ignorance as the Germans who said “wir haben es nicht gewusst” when asked about the Jewish genocide.

        I don’t believe you will claim “you did not know”, you will just deny it like the Holocaust deniers. You are “just” a Slowocaust denier, so what’s new among Zionist extremists/terrorists?

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 1:04 pm

        @Paranam Kid I don’t believe you will claim “you did not know”, you will just deny it like the Holocaust deniers.

        You are correct, I would deny it. Just as anyone else would other than committed ideologues as there is zero evidence to support the claim.

      • annie
        annie
        December 12, 2018, 2:20 pm

        if he same principle of your argument, that the growth of “the number of Palestinians” has risen therefore no genocide, were applied to the jewish community one could argue a genocide didn’t occur. that’s how bereft of morals your claim is. sure, fiddle with the dates and amounts all you want, it’s the same principle. take the last word i have nothing else to say about you trolling this article with your grotesque claim.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 8:04 pm

        @annie, the last word i have nothing else to say about you trolling this article with your grotesque claim.

        I seriously doubt it is the last word. Nonetheless, the crime of genocide against the Jewish people does not rest on its population count, despite it not having recovered from the year 1942. Its rests on the slaughter of millions of innocents. That you would compare the Palestinian experience to the Jewish holocaust is despicable.

        It is true and it is undeniable that the Palestinians have suffered hardships and far too many deaths, but the 70 years of Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been relatively non-lethal compared to other world conflicts. Over the same period millions of Muslims have died at the hands of fellow Muslims, thousands of Palestinian civilians were killed in Syria and thousands more killed by Jordan (Arafat reportedly claimed 10,000-25,000). There are many ways to describe the tragedy of the Palestinian people, but genocide is not one of them.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 12, 2018, 10:59 pm

        @mondonut
        “That you would compare the Palestinian experience to the Jewish holocaust is despicable”

        Why?

        Israel is attempting to create an ethno-supremacist state which was the same goal as the nazis.

        Where is your exact cut off for percent or bodycount?

        Evil is evil. There is no quantifying evil.

        What is absolutely grotesque and undeniable is your attempt to defend it.

        What is absolutely grotesque and undeniable is your sanctifying the holocaust while ignoring the Nakba for it’s own unique evil.

        The Nazis killed far more people. They industrialized the process.

        That Israel uses less efficient and produtctive methods does not change the evil of the goals. The issue is not the method but the objective.

        Ethnic cleansing is part and parcel of genocide.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 13, 2018, 7:48 am

        || mondonut: … It is true and it is undeniable that the Palestinians have suffered hardships and far too many deaths, but the 70 years of Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been relatively non-lethal compared to other world conflicts. Over the same period millions of Muslims have died at the hands of fellow Muslims, thousands of Palestinian civilians were killed in Syria and thousands more killed by Jordan (Arafat reportedly claimed 10,000-25,000). There are many ways to describe the tragedy of the Palestinian people, but genocide is not one of them. ||

        If one defines genocide as “mass slaughter”, I agree with you that the Palestinians are not victims of genocide.

        I find it truly sad that you can admit that “the Palestinians have suffered hardships and far too many deaths” and yet continue staunchly to back the Jewish supremacist (Zionist) ideology and religion-supremacist “Jewish State” construct that are primarily responsible for those past and on-going hardships and deaths.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 13, 2018, 12:14 pm

        What kind of illness is it that renders one incapable of seeing the hardships and sufferings of anyone other than himself? Whatever that is, you’ve got it bad.

        Jews don’t have the trademark on suffering and it’s pretty despicable of you to try to argue that.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 13, 2018, 8:42 pm

        @Marnie, Jews don’t have the trademark on suffering and it’s pretty despicable of you to try to argue that.

        Well that is a pretty bold faced lie. I acknowledged the exact opposite of that in this very same comment thread, you only have to scroll up about a page or so.

      • Paranam Kid
        Paranam Kid
        December 14, 2018, 8:35 am

        @mondonut: hey Slowocaust denier, you are in urgent need of education.
        1. Check out the UN definition of genocide – https://mondoweiss.net/2018/12/palestinicides/comment-page-1/#comment-936380
        2. Here is an analysis of the situation in Palestine in the context of the UN definition http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/12/israel-crimes-settlements-161229075030106.html

        IF you read these in conjunction with the excellent article above, and with an open mind, you will come away cured of your racist mindset, your current mindset amounting to genuine antisemitism, in the true sense of the word.
        If you

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 15, 2018, 10:29 pm

        @Paranam,IF you read these in conjunction with the excellent article above, and with an open mind, you will come away cured of your racist mindset, your current mindset amounting to genuine antisemitism…

        Sorry. I will accept neither Al Jazeerah’s interpretation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide nor your feeble interpretation of antisemitism. No competent organization has accused Israel of genocide based on the UN Convention, in fact the UN has studiously ignored that weak claim. If you want to cite the Convention then you should consider the UN’s interpretation as well.

        Here is the UN Guidance Notes on the convention along with the relevant interpretation:

        http://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/publications-and-resources/GuidanceNote-When%20to%20refer%20to%20a%20situation%20as%20genocide.pdf

        To date,only a few events have been determined by competent judicial bodies to constitute genocide. At the International level, the ICTR determined the 1994 killings of Tutsi and moderate Hutus in Rwanda to be genocide.The ICTY has determined that the events of 1995 in Srebrenica (Bosnia & Herzegovina) were genocide. The ICJ also qualified the events of Srebrenica as genocide. In other instances, charges of genocide have been brought against specific individuals, but the trial or final decision in the cases in question are still pending and therefore genocide has not yet been established. Such charges have been brought, for example, by the International Criminal Court in the case of Darfur (Sudan); and by the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia. At the national level, a few domestic courts have ruled that particular events constituted genocide. When considering these cases, it is important to compare the definition of the crime of genocide in the national legal framework with the international definition.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 16, 2018, 12:14 am

        There is no discourse with someone who believes in alternative facts. The more you write, mondonut, the more irrational, argumentative and downright ridiculous you come across. I’m guessing you, like so many of your compadres, really don’t care do U?

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 16, 2018, 12:01 pm

        “Here is the UN Guidance Notes on the convention along with the relevant interpretation:” mondonut.

        Har, har, har.

        Mondonut espousing the virtues of International law.

        The same Modonut who scoffs at International law , when it suits him/her.

        /// Also!!
        Are you the same mondonut who critises others for name calling ,who is now calling Annie, Moronic.

        ///You seem very pensive .Is defending the so called Jewish State (sans frontier ) getting your pantaloons in a twist.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      December 12, 2018, 1:48 pm

      The crime(s) of ethnic cleansing are covered under the genocide act. It is part and parcel.

      Denying the crime of genocide against the Palestinians is no worse, or better, than denying the holocaust against the Roma and Jews.

      The hair splitting is obscene as obscenely attempts g argue Hitler only wanted to kill Jews in territories under their control and therefore it wasnt an attempt at an actual genocide but merely ethnic cleansing.

      It was a holocaust. A genocide.

      The Israelis are undertaking a massive, vile, perverted crime against humanity

      Split hairs all you want.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 12, 2018, 8:13 pm

        @oldgeezer, The crime(s) of ethnic cleansing are covered under the genocide act.

        Genocide Act? Are you citing UK Law and pretending it is International Law? For the record, understanding the difference between ethnic cleansing and genocide is not hair splitting, they are two different things – go back and read the first paragraph of the story if you need a better understanding. Or read anything at all on actual genocide. And as I pointed out to Annie, that you would compare the Palestinian experience to the Jewish holocaust is despicable. And moronic.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 12, 2018, 9:03 pm

        @mondonut

        No I’m not citing any single nations law. A mere slip.

        Genocide Convention.

        Israel is a signatory.

        And I don’t believe you didn’t know that before your response. Just so we’re clear about it.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 12, 2018, 11:03 pm

        @mondonut

        btw Let me know when your new book is out.

        Fifty shades of genocide.
        Subtitled – Only those that affect me are evil.

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        December 13, 2018, 1:29 am

        @oldgeezer No I’m not citing any single nations law. A mere slip. Genocide Convention.

        Genocide Convention? I guess now I am supposed to interpret your mistakes. So I presume by Genocide Convention you mean the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

        OK, but that changes nothing. Ethnic cleansing and genocide remain different. And it remains despicable that you would compare the Palestinian experience to the Jewish holocaust.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 13, 2018, 9:20 am

        @mondonut

        lol no… Israel’s crimes against humanity is what is disgusting. As are you for supporting it and being an apologist for it.

      • amigo
        amigo
        December 16, 2018, 12:05 pm

        “Genocide Act? Are you citing UK Law and pretending it is International Law? ” mondonut.

        //There you go again.Citing International Law.

  5. gamal
    gamal
    December 11, 2018, 6:30 pm

    “Palestinians have been criminalized for merely existing and standing in the way of the colonizer”

    with the collapse of the 2 state hoax we also see the collapse of the 2 sides model of the conflict, crazy enraged barbaric indigenes and the civilising, if overly severe pioneers.

    “The omission of the Nakba from Western historiography and Genocide studies continues to marginalize Palestinians”

    Dr Robin DiAngelo reads from her book “White Fragility: Why is it so hard to talk to white people about racism”, maybe helpful to some, all and more could today be said about attitudes to the latest imperial assault on the Palestinians and Jihad/Islam the ‘Arabs’ and Africans…it’s pretty basic perhaps but you gotta start somewhere so and many thanks Mr. Jegic.

    https://youtu.be/45ey4jgoxeU?t=120

  6. Misterioso
    Misterioso
    December 12, 2018, 10:23 am

    Not on topic, but well worth reading:

    “What the Marc Lamont Hill Affair Really Tells us About Zionist Goals—An Analysis” by Professor Lawrence Davidson, Dec. 11/18

    “Part I—The Attack on Marc Lamont Hill”

    ‘There are many things wrong with ideologues. Here I mean those who see the world through a narrow dogma. It is as if they wear figurative blinders, like those real ones placed on draft horses, so as to prevent their gaze from wondering away from a designated path. As a consequence ideologues can sometimes be embarrassing—making gross general pronouncements based on the narrowest sets of beliefs and expecting the world to go along. Often they are just boring. However, give them a modicum of power and they can become downright dangerous.

    “For instance, take the recent dustup at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It started when Marc Lamont Hill, a tenured professor holding an endowed chair in the School of Media and Communications, gave a speech at the United Nations. The occasion was the U.N.’s International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. Hill, who is a longstanding critic of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, summarized the official discrimination practiced by Israel against the Palestinians—that is he laid out examples of Zionist Israel’s racist nature and practice—and then ‘endorsed a free Palestine from the river to the sea.’

    It was at this point that local supporters of Israel, specifically the ideologues who see things through the lens of the dogma of Zionism, went on the attack. Their claim was that Hill was ‘calling for the end of Israel.’ Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, claimed Hill’s endorsement of a ‘free Palestine’ amounted to the ‘violent genocide of Jews in Israel.’ Leonard Barrack, ‘a major donor to the university,’ accused Hill of calling for ‘the destruction of the State of Israel’ and said ‘I think it [Hill’s speech] was anti-Semitic.’ And then Patrick O’Connor, the chairman of Temple University’s board of trustees, called Hill’s remarks ‘hate speech’ and ‘disgusting.’ He went on to claim that ‘no one at Temple is happy with his comments.’ By the way, Temple has a student enrollment of over 30,000, so how can the chairman be sure? O’Connor has instructed the university’s lawyers to explore ways to punish Hill. In the meantime CNN, obviously responding to Zionist pressure, immediately fired Lamont Hill from his position as an on-air commentator.

    Part II—Clarifying Points

    Here are some clarifying, non-dogmatic points relevant to this situation:

    —The phrase ‘a free Palestine from the river to the sea’ has long been understood by supporters of Palestinian rights to be a call for democracy. That is, a call for a state that represents and treats all its people as equals. It is not a proposal to purge all the Israeli Jews. However, it is undeniably anti-Zionist. Why? Because Zionism ultimately insists on a state with full rights for only one people (Jews), and this essentially denies full rights to 20 percent of its population (Palestinians). Both in theory and practice, it is present-day Israel, and not a proposed ‘free Palestine,’ that is demonstrably racist.

    —There is a clear difference between Israel and the Jewish people. Israel is a recently created (1948) political state that falsely claims to represent the entire—that is worldwide—Jewish people. By doing so, the Zionists set up the false relationship that allows them to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. Yet the claim is not sustainable, for there have always been Jewish opponents of Zionism. Today this tradition of opposition continues, and a large segment of those, worldwide, opposing Israel and its racist practices, are Jewish. However, the Zionists, having been indoctrinated with the belief that Israel and the Jews are one, cannot face this truth. It may be the case that their fear and dislike for the numerous anti-Zionist Jews (the so-called self-hating Jews) is as great, or greater than, that for Palestinians.

    —Zionist consciousness requires a denial and distortion of history. The reality of the Zionist movement’s link to British imperialism; the subsequent fact that the Zionist intrusion into Palestine constitutes a history of a European settlement project in a non-European land; the Zionist complicity with at least some of the forced displacement of Jews from Arab lands; the reality of the Nakba—all have to be denied or reinterpreted. As is the case with most dubious moral behavior, rationalizations and denials become key to the perpetrators’ own self-image.

    —It is on the basis of this reinterpretation of history and their indoctrinated belief in it that Patrick O’Connor, Morton Klein, and Leonard Barrack act out as they do. Essentially, they are projecting onto the Palestinians and their supporters, such as Marc Lamont Hill, Zionism’s own racist motives. They are drawn to do so, perhaps subconsciously, because it is the Zionists, and not their opponents, who have a goal of ethnic cleansing. Thus, Zionism is a dogma that, all too obviously, calls for the removal of as many Palestinians as possible ‘from the river to the sea.’

    Part III—What Really Is At Stake?

    The dustup over Marc Lamont Hill’s speech is not an isolated occurrence. Dozens of similar calculated over-reactions, episodes of intimidation, and attention-getting acts of slander, have occurred over the last few years. Most of these have been directed by Zionists at academics critical of Israel and its evolving apartheid practices. The reaction to these attacks usually focuses on the threat to academic freedom and free speech. This has been the case in the pushback against the Zionist assault on Lamont Hill.

    However, these issues, while very important indeed, by no means cover the extent of the Zionist threat. What else is threatened? Well, let’s think this through in logical steps:

    — Lamont Hill’s speech at the U.N. addressed Israel’s racist nature and practice. His criticism was not arbitrary, but rather fact based.

    —The Zionist response was that Hill’s speech was anti-Semitic hate speech. That is, they assert that criticism of Israeli racism is itself racist.

    —Such an accusation makes no sense in a world that has standards of international law against which the alleged racist practice of a state, a government, or a powerful dogma can be tested. When such standards are applied to Israel, the state’s racist nature is revealed and becomes a basis for criticism.

    —Therefore, the Zionist campaign to identify anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel’s racist nature and practice is, ipso facto, an effort to overturn those standards. Put another way, we can say that Israel as it currently exists, and the evolutionary direction it has laid out for itself in terms of its apartheid local laws and practices, constitute an open challenge to international law and the present concepts of human rights enshrined in it.

    —The Zionists are driven to mount this challenge because Israel’s claim to be a legitimate nation-state, and particularly its claim to be a ‘Western’ nation both in political and cultural form, is insupportable in a world where international law criminalizes the racist consequences of its guiding ideology.

    —For the Zionists, it is an us-versus-them, zero-sum game. Either they become an ever more isolated ‘rogue’ state, or the international laws and values that challenge their practices must be destroyed.

    Part IV—Conclusion

    The Zionists are not trying to create something new here. They are, in effect, trying to go backward in time—trying to turn the clock back to a time when international law was only about trade relations and the wartime treatment of prisoners of war. It was not until after World War II that international law, in reaction to the racially motivated crimes of the Nazis (significantly impacting the Jewish people), started to set up legal standards supporting human rights (for instance, declaring apartheid as a crime against humanity). It is a supreme irony that it is just these aspects of international law that the Zionists seek to destroy.

    So, destruction is the Zionists’ strategic goal and the attack on Marc Lamont Hill and others like him is dictated by the tactics they have chosen to use toward that end. That is really what is going on, and it is important that as many people as possible become aware of just what is at stake here. In terms of human rights we all should start thinking of ourselves as potential Palestinians.


    Lawrence Davidson
    [email protected]

    Blog: http://www.tothepointanalyses.com

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      December 12, 2018, 10:25 am

      https://www.thefire.org/breaking-temple-will-not-punish-marc-lamont-hill-issues-condemnation/

      “Breaking: Temple will not punish Marc Lamont Hill, issues condemnation”

      “FIRE – Foundation for Individual Rights in Education,” Dec. 11/18, By Sarah McLaughlin December 11, 2018

      EXCERPT:
      “Following a Board of Trustees meeting this afternoon, Temple University President Richard Englert released a statement on behalf of the board, announcing that professor Marc Lamont Hill will not be punished or investigated for his Nov. 28 speech during an event organized with the United Nations. In that speech, Hill called for ‘a free Palestine from the river to the sea.’ Englert, in delivering the statement, affirmed that Hill ‘spoke as a private citizen and his right to do so is protected by the constitution.’

      “The announcement finds Temple returning to its initial statement, which recognized that Hill’s speech was protected by the First Amendment.

      “While Englert initially defended Hill’s First Amendment rights on Nov. 30, that well-founded position was upended when Board of Trustees Chairman Patrick O’Connor declared that he had directed Temple’s legal staff to explore ‘remedies’ for Hill’s ‘hate speech,’ as members of the administration and board of trustees wanted to ‘fire him right away.’ Today’s statement concluding that Hill spoke as a private citizen was made after in consultation with legal counsel, experts, the provost, and the Klein College Dean, according to a Temple News editor:

      “FIRE wrote to Englert on Dec. 3 to remind him that, as a public university, Temple cannot punish or investigate Hill for engaging in protected political speech.”

  7. bcg
    bcg
    December 13, 2018, 9:42 am

    Whether or not ‘genocide’ is the right term, I think the late Israeli historian Baruch Kimmerling came up with a term that’s definitely accurate – ‘politicide’ ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicide ), the attempt to remove all possibility of political power or agency from a group coupled with an effort to erase their culture.

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