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As you surely know by now, the United States political class is talking about whether AIPAC, the leading pro-Israel group the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, wields its influence in Congress using money.

Last night Glenn Greenwald seized on the news that House minority leader Kevin McCarthy intends to investigate two Muslim congresswomen, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, over their criticisms of Israel and remarked

It’s stunning how much time US political leaders spend defending a foreign nation even if it means attacking free speech rights of Americans

Ilhan Omar responded with her usual pithiness.

And set off a firestorm of criticism. Batya Ungar-Sargon of the Forward led the rush against Omar for alleged anti-Semitism.

“Would love to know who @IlhanMN thinks is paying American politicians to be pro-Israel, though I think I can guess. Bad form, Congresswoman. That’s the second anti-Semitic trope you’ve tweeted.

Omar then responded with one word: “AIPAC!”

Ungar-Sargon presumed to speak on behalf of American Jews.  “Please learn how to talk about Jews in a non-anti-Semitic way. Sincerely, American Jews.”

The Democratic Party establishment is upset. Chelsea Clinton retweeted Ungar-Sargon during the Grammys.

Co-signed as an American. We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism.

Howard Dean said that Omar went “too far.” He echoes NY Congressman Jerrold Nadler (per Sam Stein): “It is deeply disappointing and disturbing to hear Representative Ilhan Omar’s (MN) choice of words in her exchange with a journalist yesterday, wherein she appears to traffic in old anti-Semitic tropes about Jews and money.”

A lot of others have joined in the shaming of Omar. The story has been on CNN and is trending on twitter, and Haaretz has covered it too. “That is a reprehensible response,” said Jane Eisner formerly of the Forward. Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL agreed, saying Omar was echoing a “tired anti-Semitic trope about Jews and money.”

Words matter Rep. . Anti-Semitism is on the rise in the US and abroad. The use of this tired anti-Semitic trope about Jews and money is inappropriate and upsetting. As Americans and Jews, we expect our politicians to condemn bigotry, not fuel it.

Ungar Sargon continued her criticisms of Omar as an anti-Semite:

If your “criticism of AIPAC” can be replaced with a cartoon octopus with a hook nose, you need a lesson in Jewish history. And if you’re out here saying “Yeah, using the word Benjamins was bad BUT” you’re abetting the normalization of anti-Semitism by an elected official…

To all the people in my mentions and DMs who think that S1 was the work of AIPAC: I have a bridge I want to sell you. Either way, OF COURSE it’s possible to critique AIPAC et al in a non-anti-Semitic way. This ain’t it, chief.

The remarkable thing is the pushback that the anti-Semitism police have gotten from journalists and experts on US policy. AIPAC is simply too important a force in US politics for sensible people to take the criticism of Omar for merely speaking out, lying down. Khaled Elgindy of Brookings:

It seems I’m in the market for a bridge. Please enlighten us on AIPAC’s non-influence in Congress.

Mitchell Plitnick said Ungar Sargon doesn’t speak for him. So did Ira Glunts. Michael Tracey responds:

Ignore the histrionic idiots making false insinuations. Rational people understand that AIPAC and allied donors have outsized influence on Congress, and seek to dictate policy as it relates to Israel.

Ali Abunimah:

Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is under fierce attack from Chelsea Clinton and other Republican and Democratic establishment figures for voicing a fundamental truth: much of Congress is muzzled when it comes to Israel by the powerful lobby group AIPAC.

Yousef Munayyer directs people to AIPAC’s website.

Uh, AIPAC is pretty explicit about how it acts as a vehicle for funding for members of Congress. It is right on its website

His link is to an AIPAC Club where members must spend $2500 a year on pro-Israel politics.

Remi Brulin links to Tom Friedman’s column on the topic that we have often cited:

Here is how Tom Friedman phrased it in 2011: “I hope that Israel’s prime minister understands that standing ovation he got in Congress this year wasn’t for his politics. That ovation was bought & paid for by the Israel lobby.”

Anshel Pfeffer of Haaretz correctly says that the Jeremy Corbyn argument has come to the U.S. but also accuses Omar of anti-Semitism; and former Obama ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro says he is right. Pfeffer:

In the space of just 6 hours the whole Corbyn shitshow c.2015 has crossed the pond. The right-wing is scandalized. Jews are hurt. The soft-left is hoping she didn’t really mean it. The hard-left is in “criticizing Israel isn’t antisemitic” mode and antisemites having a field-day.

Mairav Zonszein says that Omar is right. “’Democratic Congresswoman’s words suggesting money is behind pro-Israel stances…’. That is exactly right though.”

Stephanie Schriock, president of Emily’s List

Here is my report on Stephanie Schriock of the pro-choice group Emily’s List describing the role of AIPAC in scripting Congressional positions on Israel for donations (at J Street three years ago). “Because this is how we raise money” from the “Jewish community.”

I started as a finance director. I worked for candidates in the 90’s as their finance director. And I would come on a congressional race, I am a twenty-something kid who also knows nothing beyond the state borders, let alone overseas, and you thought about where you are going to go to raise the money that you needed to raise to win a race. And you went to labor, you went to the choice community, and you went to the Jewish community. But before you went to the Jewish community, you had a conversation with the lead AIPAC person in your state and they made it clear that you needed a paper on Israel. And so you called all of your friends who already had a paper on Israel – that was designed by AIPAC – and we made that your paper.

This was before there was a campaign manager, or a policy director or a field director because you got to raise money before you do all of that. I have written more Israel papers that you can imagine. I’m from Montana. I barely knew where Israel was until I looked at a map, and the poor campaign manager would come in, or the policy director, and I’d be like, ‘Here is your paper on Israel. This is our policy.’ We’ve sent it all over the country because this is how we raise money. … This means that these candidates who were farmers, school teachers, or businesswomen, ended up having an Israel position without having any significant conversations with anybody [but AIPAC]…

Sitting on the dais of the the Sixth and I Synagogue in Washington, Roger Cohen asked Schriock what would happen if a candidate didn’t take the AIPAC position on Israel?

“You thought that the money was going to be gone.”

Just going to dry up? Cohen said. “Yes,” Schriock said. These are candidates, she said, who “really have to get those $5000 PAC checks from the pro-Israel PAC in St. Louis.”

Schriock said that J Street’s arrival had finally created another position on Israel contra AIPAC.

J Street was for the Iran Deal, AIPAC was opposed. J Street was against S.1, the anti-boycott legislation passed by the Senate last week; AIPAC was for it. But to be clear, J Street opposes Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) which Omar supports. And J Street supports continued aid to Israel at the tune of $3.8 billion a year. I hope “tune” is not an anti-Semitic trope!

In her courage and plainness, Omar has brought important issues about the role of the Israel lobby to a national discussion that even Walt and Mearsheimer were not able to catalyze. We should all be grateful.

Thanks to James North and Scott Roth.

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  1. amigo
    amigo
    February 11, 2019, 12:04 pm

    In typical zionist fashion the guns are out to shoot the messenger.

    The voracity of the zionist response to the truth is proof that it is the truth.Follow the money honey.

    Whine, moan, kvetch,scream,yell,cry,groan,wail,whimper,sob,howl,
    grouse,grumble,carp,mutter,etc etc.

    What was that guys name who cried wolf. Benjamin , perhaps.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      February 12, 2019, 9:20 am

      @amigo, et al

      A wise Jew steps forward and speaks the truth:

      https://forward.com/opinion/419117/no-ilhan-omar-is-not-anti-semitic-for-calling-out-aipac/

      “No, Ilhan Omar Is Not Anti-Semitic For Calling Out AIPAC”

      By Peter Feld, The Forward, February 11, 2019

      “Who knew that he whose name must not be spoken was Benjamin? Apparently not Representative Ilhan Omar, the brave Muslim congresswoman from Minnesota who stated an inconvenient truth when she wrote, ‘It’s all about the Benjamins baby’ over reports she was to be ‘punished’ for her criticisms of Israel that include support of BDS.

      “According to a Haaretz story, House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy threatened to ‘take action’ against Omar and Michigan Representative Rashida Tlaib for unspecified statements against Israel, comparing them to Republican House member Steve King who the GOP minority recently stripped of committee assignments over his support for white supremacism.

      “After Batya Ungar-Sargon (this story’s editor – small world!) and Chelsea Clinton amplified Omar’s tweet, the congresswoman was swept into controversy and again accused of anti-Semitism, as she had been for posting during military action against Gaza in 2012 that Israel had ‘hypnotized’ the world.

      “Like ‘hypnotized,’ Omar’s comment on ‘Benjamins’ was said to employ the anti-Semitic trope of secret Jewish control. Much has been written about this awful demonization of Jews, about how it has been repeatedly used to falsely depict one of history’s most marginalized and oppressed peoples as all-powerful.

      “The problem is, all lobbies, by definition, are designed to exert secret control over policy, using money. That’s what they do. For example, we’re just now learning about a Russian plot to launder money through the NRA and help Republicans. Good times.

      “And so, unless you want to deny that there even is an Israel lobby, it can’t be off limits to point out that it works in secret and uses money to bring about policy outcomes.

      “Now, it’s quite true that not all pro-Israel lobbying is Jewish these days. Much of it now comes from evangelical groups and other entities that tend to favor US intervention abroad, and who see strategic importance in Israel.

      “But it’s also true, almost a cliche in political analysis, that American voters pay little or no attention to foreign policy. So, even as polls continue to show general support for Israel (though now polarized by party, and crumbling among Democrats and younger voters), few voters would be very upset or even notice if the US stopped doing the practical things we do for Israel: $38 billion (a lot of ‘benjamins’) in military aid, protection at the UN from international accountability and, under Trump, official support for territorial annexation.

      “For crucial decades before the rise of Christian Zionism, the lobby that produced wall-to-wall congressional support for Israel was AIPAC. Like Omar, academicians Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer were slandered as anti-Semites for merely writing about ‘the Israel lobby,’ though this is no longer tenable and the critics have mostly backed off.

      “But if you were in the right audience, AIPAC was very up front about its influence. In 1988, at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco — yes, representing the Dukakis campaign at an AIPAC luncheon is a thing I have done in this life — I heard an AIPAC speaker boast unabashedly about AIPAC’s vast influence. In recent cycles, he said, AIPAC had punished enemies of Israel in Congress, like Senator Charles Percy of Illinois, who had lost his 1984 re-election after criticizing Israel’s settlements and Lebanon invasion.

      “But now it was time to reward Israel’s friends, he told the crowd. Lobbies, he joked in what became a widely repeated saying, are like mushrooms: they grow best in the dark; you will not hear about all our successes. No one called him anti-Semitic.

      “And it cannot be anti-Semitic to say that a lobby that spends large sums of money and boasts (at least to its own supporters) of its influence, is influential through money. (If you think members of Congress don’t care about ‘benjamins,’ you haven’t watched any of them dance for a $5000 PAC check like it’s ‘Goodfellas’ and Joe Pesci is shooting at their feet.) Israel also exerts influence in the donations of wealthy individuals like Sheldon Adelson who has given the GOP a reported $100 million and was rewarded by Trump with the Jerusalem embassy move.

      “It’s AIPAC, not the evangelicals, who made the Israel Anti-Boycott Act a legislative priority and got 292 House and 69 Senate cosponsors from both parties to place protecting Israel from criticism above their own constituents’ constitutional rights to free speech.

      “Not all these Congress members hate the First Amendment — many just thought it would be no biggie to sign on to a bill AIPAC cares about. And it was AIPAC who helped force a different anti-BDS bill, S.1, to the Senate floor three times this winter in the midst of a government shutdown.

      “New members like Omar and Tlaib are shaking up Congress like it has never been shaken. This includes criticisms of Israel that have been almost entirely suppressed in our political conversation.

      “There are plenty of Jews, like me, whose beliefs are voiced by Omar, not AIPAC. And this time, we will not let our leaders be taken down by accusations that they are anti-Semitic for supporting Palestinian rights, including BDS, or for calling attention to the influence wielded behind the scenes by lobbies like AIPAC.

      “Peter Feld is political director of The Insurrection, a digital strategy firm in New York, and a writer. His writing has appeared in the New York Observer, Gawker, Radar, Ad Age, and the New York Post.”

  2. scott9854958
    scott9854958
    February 11, 2019, 2:13 pm

    Cynthia McKinney and Jim Traficant tried this back in the 90s and look where it got them: defeated, investigated and marginalized. AIPAC knows how to hammer down the odd nail that refuses to fall in line, and they’ll do that with Omar. Only difference now is that we have social media, and she’s good at using it. I wish her luck.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      February 11, 2019, 2:29 pm

      I think the conjuncture is very different. US politics are close to a tipping point.
      The 3 big lobbies are AIPAC , NRA and Healthcare and they all represent the ancien régime. The Dems will drop neoliberalism because tax rises and Green new deals are the new black . AIPAC will be exposed. Israel should have looked after Americans but groupthink doesn’t think, does it?

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        February 12, 2019, 10:05 am

        “…groupthink doesn’t think…”
        Nice one.

  3. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    February 11, 2019, 2:20 pm

    Halfway through a brutal shutdown that forced Federal workers into the arms of food banks to feed their kids AIPAC was working on anti BDS legislation in the Senate. When did AIPAC ever care about American families?

    And it looks like the 2020 Dem candidate will be a woman from one of the minorities. AIPAC never did anything for either group.

    AIPAC is an anti Semitic trope. So is Adelson btw. Zionists can give it but they are too snowflakey to take it.

    LaGuardia killed Tammany. AIPAC may be living on borrowed time

    https://youtu.be/SaHflVDIzZo

  4. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    February 11, 2019, 2:21 pm

    Omar could have said, “Aipac contributions are the key here.” Instead she wrote, “it’s all about the benjamins”. Her choice of the vernacular was deliberate and designed to inflame.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      February 11, 2019, 2:40 pm

      Definition of a Liberal Zionist: will talk about the occupation and lobby but mentioning the money that feeds the machine is provocative

      https://mobile.twitter.com/jstreetdotorg/status/1095020295298207744/photo/1

    • annie
      annie
      February 11, 2019, 2:54 pm

      Omar could have said, “Aipac contributions are the key here.”

      i guess you didn’t follow the conversation. because when Omar mentioned aipac she got a “Please learn how to talk about Jews” lecture on anti semitism. speaking in the vernacular is so one’s people can relate. any mention of lobby money inflames, and pushback is meant to silence. it’s something that should be discussed, because it impacts us all.

      ever heard “It’s All About The Benjamins (Remix) (Official Music Video)”:
      (2:38)
      “It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby
      It’s all about the Benjamins baby”

    • marc b.
      marc b.
      February 11, 2019, 3:22 pm

      thanks for the mid-afternoon coffee break belly laugh.

      the wording, the tenor, always just a bit off. “if only . . .”, and the whole mess could have been resolved, lives saved, feelings not hurt. poor, fragile ‘wondering’.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      February 11, 2019, 4:06 pm

      “WJ”: “Omar could have said…”

      “Yonah”, please, try and calm yourself! You’re getting all famischt, go have a nosh, you’ll feel better. Don’t worry “Yonah”, this is AMERICA! The goldenah medina where nobody can say anything worse about Jews than what we say about them!

    • zaid
      zaid
      February 11, 2019, 4:51 pm

      Inflame or not trope or not ,doesnot matter. it is still the truth.

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      February 12, 2019, 12:27 am

      You are not of her generation, correct?

      ‘All about the benjamins’ a red flag for you yonah? TFB.

  5. amigo
    amigo
    February 11, 2019, 2:36 pm

    “Omar could have said, “Aipac contributions are the key here.” ” WJ aka Yonah Fredman

    Yonah , this not a subject for levity.It would have made infinitesimal difference.

    The truth ,no matter what vernacular it is delivered in will inflame zionists who are crapping their pantaloons at the thought of their dirty little secrets coming to light.Decades of interference in the affairs of a sovereign state buying off it,s slavish pols who are ready and willing to do the zionists bidding at the expense of their own citizens.

  6. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    February 11, 2019, 2:42 pm

    RE: “It’s all about the Benjamins baby” ~ Ilhan Omar

    SEE: “The Film the Israel Lobby Does Not Want You to See” | by Chris Hedges | truthdig.com | December 03, 2018

    [EXCERPT] . . . What the lobby is all about is to make sure that Israel gets special treatment from the United States, forever,” John Mearsheimer, professor of political science at the University of Chicago and co-author of “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy,” says in the film.

    Mearsheimer says, “What AIPAC does is it makes sure that money is funneled your way if you’re seen as pro-Israel, and it will go to significant lengths to make sure that you stay in office if you continue to be staunchly pro-Israel.”

    “What happens is Jeff [Talpins] meets with congressmen in the backroom, tells them exactly what his goals are,” David Ochs, founder of HaLev, says of the pro-Israeli hedge fund manager Jeff Talpins and how politicians receive sums of as much as $200,000 from the Israel lobby.” And by the way, Jeff Talpins is worth $250 million. Basically, they hand an envelope with 20 credit cards and say, ‘You can swipe each of these credit cards for $1,000 each.’ ”

    “If you wander off the reservation and become critical of Israel, you not only will not get money, AIPAC will go to great lengths to find someone who will run against you,” Mearsheimer says. “And support that person very generously. The end result is you’re likely to lose your seat in Congress.” . . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-film-the-israel-lobby-does-not-want-you-to-see/

  7. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    February 11, 2019, 2:52 pm

    This is very good

    https://mobile.twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1095022426109300736

    No one, in fact, has done more to damage the standing of Israel than a Netanyahu government that has actively waged war on the Palestinian people, denied them their rights, responded disproportionately to threats and refused to acknowledge their own wrong-doing.
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    The malfeasance and abuses of the Netanyahu government are every bit as great a threat to how Israel is viewed by Americans or to the degree to which it is supported by Americans as is anti-semitism. We must, of course, be very careful to distinguish between the two.

    But if we stand for what is best about America and hope for the best for Israel, then we must welcome those who would criticize Israel’s government not as our enemies but as the true to defenders of the Israeli idea and of America’s deep investment in the promise of that country.
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    With that in mind, we must be careful that we do not allow the justifiable aspects of the critique against Rep. Omar to lead to a reflexive position where we silence active criticism of the Israeli government or the worst actions of the state of Israel.
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    Judging from comments in the media about her that pre-dated these statements, & comments about Rep. Rashida Tlaib, & comments about the “left” becoming anti-Israel, in my view we are in the midst of a pre-emptive push to combat the coming rethinking of the US-Israel relationship.
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    It will seize upon the fact that some elements who offer the critique of Israel are in fact anti-semitic or tap into anti-semitic rhetoric and traditions in order to tar with the same brush those who legitimately disapprove of the behavior of the Israeli government.
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    That would be a mistake. Because it would not only silence a debate we need to & deserve to have,but it would undermine the ability of the US to be a force for positive change in Israeli policies-change that is necessary to the future of Israel and to US interests in that region.
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    We must combat the anti-semitism. But we should also combat those who have no tolerance for democratic processes or who would seek a political purity test for politicians based on narrowly-defined, traditionalist, out-dated guidelines.
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    The future of the U.S.-Israel relationship…and the future of Israel and the Palestinian people and peace in the region…depends on our willingness to look past biases of all sorts to the facts on the ground, to the justice that is required and to our interests going forward

  8. Boomer
    Boomer
    February 11, 2019, 4:00 pm

    I see that she has apologized. Sad, but not surprising. Zionists win again, not by addressing the reality in Palestine or in DC, but by shouting “anti-semite.”

    • Boomer
      Boomer
      February 12, 2019, 7:35 am

      What’s more, as anyone could have predicted, her apology accomplished nothing for herself politically. Donald Trump says “it’s not good enough,” and critics pile on to say her comments were “appalling” and “ugly.” Zionists object to her statement of truth, not to the reality in Palestine, or American support for the dispossession and oppression of Palestinians.

  9. William3
    William3
    February 11, 2019, 4:26 pm

    She was forced by her colleagues to apologize. I’m sick of this crap. The “sniper regime” is killing children every week—heavily armed soldiers with high powered sniper rifles shooting women, children, medical aid workers, journalists in the face to kill and legs to maim, and still it all about “anti-semitism.” Well as far as I’m concerned the only semites are the Palestinians who have inhabited the land for centuries while the “Benjamins” Milekowskis are European invaders who came and ethnically cleansed hundreds of thriving Palestinian cities and villages. If you’ve forgotten how we got here read Tom Suarez’s State of Terror. How much more evil can you get?

  10. Boris
    Boris
    February 11, 2019, 5:38 pm

    Money’s influence on politics is the problem.

    Omar could have said this.

    Instead she said that Jewish money’s influence on politics is the problem.

    This is antisemitic.

    She apologized. Will see how long it will last.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      February 11, 2019, 7:05 pm

      Sorry Boz

      You can’t run apartheid with AIPAC backing and whine about AIPAC looking like an anti Semitic trope. Far too much Zionist activity seems to be based on the Protocols.

      • Boris
        Boris
        February 11, 2019, 10:09 pm

        Hey, Maghlawatanchik,

        Protocols are a known fake. You antisemitism is showing….

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        February 11, 2019, 11:56 pm

        The Protocols are a known fake, but the Zionists seem to use them as an instruction book. That is what Maghlawatan is saying.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        February 12, 2019, 3:23 pm

        Boris: “Protocols are a known fake. You antisemitism is showing….”

        ROFL. What you are claiming is that not a single Jew can base its activity on the protocols, because it isn’t true that Jews wrote them and therefore to accuse a single Jew of basing her or his activities on them defames Jews as such.

        Your lack of logical thinking is showing ….

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      February 11, 2019, 11:55 pm

      Jewish money’s influence on politics is the problem.

      Why is it antisemitic to say so?

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        February 12, 2019, 1:56 am

        Because it’s wrong and they know it’s wrong and they are always afraid of being stopped

        AIPAC is a total shonda for the goys

        Interestingly the NRA is also feeling the heat.
        I wouldn’t assume anything about these 2 lobbies going forward

        Neoliberalism is dying

        « No matter how well written or delivered a speech cannot divert whole societies from a well established course of action. Policies in motion tend to stay in motion ; to change the trajectory of a deeply embedded set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal motion »

        Steve Walt

        Moms Demand Action are now in Congress. If the NRA can be taken down AIPAC can be taken down.

        #FuckAIPAC
        Thoughts and prayers for Zionism

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      February 12, 2019, 5:49 am

      Why is the truth antisemitic?

      We should be much more alarmed that most american politicians are owned by foreign government(s). That is the national emergency. Bravo Ilhan Omar.

    • eljay
      eljay
      February 12, 2019, 8:22 am

      || Boris: Money’s influence on politics is the problem.

      Omar could have said this.

      Instead she said that Jewish money’s influence on politics is the problem.

      This is antisemitic. … ||

      She didn’t say “Jewish money”.

      Instead Zionists like you say that every time you deliberately conflate Israel with all Jews and all Jews with Israel.

      This is anti-Semitic.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      February 12, 2019, 3:12 pm

      Boris: “Instead she said that Jewish money’s influence on politics is the problem.

      This is antisemitic.”

      First of all, she said that AIPAC money’s influence on politics is the problem. Secondly, even if she had said that “Jewish money’s” (money from Jews) influence on politics was the problem it wouldn’t be antisemitic, because Jews as such were not defamed. It would be only antisemitic if she had said “THE Jews’ money”.

      You and your ilk are ALWAYS lying about this and ommitting that antisemitism can only be antisemitism if it is based on the defamation of Jews AS SUCH.

    • annie
      annie
      February 12, 2019, 4:07 pm

      she didn’t say anything about “jewish money”. you weaken your own argument when you stack the deck w/allegations never made. there’s a long history of c-notes being called benjamins (backed by hip hop, websters and the urban dictionary), there’s nothing jewish about that term used in the context of money.

    • Boris
      Boris
      February 12, 2019, 8:56 pm

      To all who replied to me – the proof is in the pudding. There is no point of me to argue with you and to utterly destroy your stupid arguments – Omar understood her mistake and apologized.

      End of story…

      • eljay
        eljay
        February 13, 2019, 7:15 am

        || Boris: To all who replied to me – the proof is in the pudding. … ||

        Correct: She didn’t say “Jewish money” – you did.

        || … There is no point of me to argue with you and to utterly destroy your stupid arguments … ||

        There’s no point arguing because you – not she – said “Jewish money” and you’d look like a(n even bigger) fool trying to pretend it was the reverse.

        || … Omar understood her mistake and apologized. ||

        Her mistake was seriously underestimating just how hateful and immoral you Zionists can be.

        End of story…

  11. Kay24
    Kay24
    February 11, 2019, 7:52 pm

    Only in the United States of Israel, can you criticize the president, and all other nations, except Israel, and their lobbies. She is merely stating what the entire world knows, that shekels are being used to buy influence in Congress, there are long lists publicly available to see how much has gone to the politicians, so this stupid notion that she is anti-semitic, is lame, and it only shows just how viciously the lobbies operate here. She has EVERY RIGHT under our Constitution to criticize Israel and AIPAC, and it ironic that those who criticize her, including Chelsea Clinton, is going along with this charade of referring to it as “anti-semitism”. I guess Chelsea’s mum is one of those who benefitted from the love shown to her by those lobbies. If you look at these lists of AIPAC donations, you will see that those who received the most money from the zionists, are those who are most supportive of Israel.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      February 12, 2019, 7:29 am

      “Only in the United States of Israel, can you criticize the president, and all other nations, except Israel, and their lobbies.”

      Sadly, it’s increasingly becoming that way in the UK too. In the words of that embassy goon caught on camera trying to ‘take down’ elected officials, ‘we need to make the UK more like the US’. I hate to say it, but as current events show, they are succeeding.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        February 12, 2019, 8:15 am

        That is very disappointing. I thought they would have more sense. All they have to do is look at the US, and see how much control the zionists have over US policies and politicians. They even write some of their foreign policies.
        I still think Ireland is doing things right.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        February 12, 2019, 8:57 am

        Ireland is better than most European countries – because of its history, obviously, but also perhaps because it frankly isn’t important enough for the Zionists to bother with it too much. But even so, there are limitiations. A bill about boycotting goods from the settlements took a lot of effort to get passed – and that’s just about the ‘settlements’, which are acknowledged as illegal in EU and international law, not Israel ‘proper’. Baby steps.

  12. Stephen Shenfield
    Stephen Shenfield
    February 11, 2019, 10:08 pm

    It is natural that our elected representatives, who work tirelessly day and night for the good of the country and care nothing for their personal interests, should feel offended at the implication that they are nothing but prostitutes at the beck and call of shadowy lobbies that do not in fact exist or perhaps do exist but in the form of tropes — and who wants to eat trope for dinner?

  13. Marnie
    Marnie
    February 12, 2019, 12:35 am

    God bless Ilhan and Rashida! They AIPAC-bought congressional whores have been looking for anything to bring these two down, Ilhan in particular. She spoke the truth and is vilified for it. Nancy Pelosi is owned by Adelson and company and has only drawn more attention to it.

    I’m glad this is out – it’s going to be interesting to see all those fair-weather friends of the two freshman congresswomen support their sisters in another manufactured crisis at the behest of AIPAC and those owned by it. Would love to see the files the folks at AIPAC have on washington. This would be the time for these corrupt and decrepit american politicians for the zionist state come clean and loose the bonds. It’s only money FFS.

    #Istandwithilhan #FuckAipac

  14. Neil Schipper
    Neil Schipper
    February 12, 2019, 4:00 am

    .. the tune of $3.8 billion a year. I hope “tune” is not an anti-Semitic trope!

    When repeated daily, and never contextualized by the total American military budget, or by the benefits flowing to Globocop — the least evil Empire in comparison to the other aspirants — it sure does rhyme with the aspiration to cleanse the Middle East of Juden.

    That today’s Nazis trawl the radical leftist sites like yours and Greenwald’s, and use the exact same talking points to troll every discussion that attempts nuance, is surely not news to you. This makes the rhyming more pungent.

    Here’s a challenge to you and your readers (only five minutes of googling needed): Calculate (a) annual US aid to the Zionist entity as a percent of US military budget, and (b) the annual cost to the average American worker of this aid to the bloodthirsty murdering Zionists. Calculators permitted.

    The results provide an opportunity for reflection. They help us understand why no electorate wants radical leftists on a town council, let alone anywhere near halls of power, not in the U.S., not in France, Spain, Italy, Greece, Norway, Phillipines…

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      February 12, 2019, 8:44 am

      “never contextualized by the total American military budget”

      Your ‘argument’ falls at the first hurdle with the fact that this ‘aid’ comes out of the foreign aid budget, not the military budget. Which begs the obvious question as to how a relatively rich country, the world’s 7th largest weapons seller which boasts of being ‘start-up nation’ should get even a cent of American tax-payers money, let alone the largest foreign aid per capita.

      “it sure does rhyme with the aspiration to cleanse the Middle East of Juden.”

      That kind of ‘censorship by slander’ technique might work with aspiring politicians or in low-rent Twitter “debates”, but it won’t cut the mustard here. You’re dealing with a well-informed crowd who are au fait with all the slanders. Have you got any actual arguments?

    • Neil Schipper
      Neil Schipper
      February 12, 2019, 12:50 pm

      I’m not sure when my comment went live (it’s usually held up for some hours), but as expected, no takers. I’ve noticed that radicals hate math.

      I’ll wait until afternoon to post the numbers in case someone with honest curiosity weighs in.

      Maximus, your military budget vs. foreign aid argument is lawerly (juvenile) quibbling. It’s not hard to find where American boots and bases (at least the non-secret ones) are located around the globe. It is well understood by serious analysts that the alliance with Israel impacts the American footprint (and the associated gigadollar spending) in the region; lefty cranks make it their business to un-know this.

      The “world’s 7th largest weapons seller” sounds wrong — I recall something like 10th or 12th last time I looked, but anyway, picking out exactly one out of the top 15 or 20 arms suppliers to obsess about exclusively (and venomously and eliminationalistically) says something about folks like you, and that something has a name. You need to understand why you never feel the same white hot hatred towards the doings of Chinese or French or Swiss arms merchants.

      I can sit in my armchair and wish for a world in which Jewish brainpower was deployed otherwise (and sometimes I do), but I understand and accept that vociferous eliminationalist rejectionism by other actors in the region over many decades created necessities for the Jewish state, which in turn mothered some specialized inventiveness, and alas, some products thereof have a world market. And as we see in other arms exporting countries, there’s a lot of inertia in those economies. To fix this, maybe focus more on countries that don’t have neighbors laboring mightily to enhance their strike capabilities while constantly threatening to level major cities.

      • bcg
        bcg
        February 12, 2019, 1:43 pm

        @Neil Schipper: Personally I’m fine with a majority Jewish state, almost all of the JVP people I’ve talked to are fine with a majority Jewish state, we just don’t want it to permanently rule over another people, we don’t want it to destroy the possibility of two states with its endlessly expanding settlements and checkpoints and home demolitions and administrative detentions.

        Why is this so difficult to understand?

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 2:21 pm

        Imagine if it had been the norm, over the last fifty years, for political-military-financial elites of Arab & Turkish & Persian nations, when faced with harsh internal criticism or stirrings of radicalism and rebellion, for those elites to employ “expanding settlements and checkpoints and home demolitions and administrative detentions” in order to hold their foes at bay.

        I have a profound wish, probably the profoundest wish I have about the Middle East, that there be in the years to come more “expanding settlements and checkpoints and home demolitions and administrative detentions”. It would constitute moral advance.

        Criticizing Israeli behavior unreferenced to the norms of the region is evidence of immaturity or bad faith. Israel can and should take pride in where its managed to hold its moral bar.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        February 12, 2019, 2:29 pm

        “Personally I’m fine with a majority Jewish state, almost all of the JVP people I’ve talked to are fine with a majority Jewish state, we just don’t want it to permanently rule over another people, we don’t want it to destroy the possibility of two states with its endlessly expanding settlements and checkpoints and home demolitions and administrative detentions.”

        Wow. If this is true, you’d be confirming that “almost the majority of JVP” is by definition Zionist, trying to cling to other people’s land, after it was obtained by conquest and genocide. You just don’t like the post-67 “excesses”, which give you a bad image among civilized people. You’re jake with the pre-67 invasion, theft, and usurpation of other people’s sovereignty.
        It remains to see if the JVP, which after 22 years seemed to want to reject Zionism, officially confirms your statement.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        February 12, 2019, 2:38 pm

        “Criticizing Israeli behavior unreferenced to the norms of the region is evidence of immaturity or bad faith”

        I’m sorry, “Neil”, but you know how auto-correct is, did you mean to write “of the religion” ?

      • eljay
        eljay
        February 12, 2019, 3:21 pm

        || Neil Schipper: … Criticizing Israeli behavior unreferenced to the norms of the region is evidence of immaturity or bad faith. … ||

        Zionism 101: Murderers exist, so it’s OK to rape.

        Criticizing Israeli behaviour referenced to Zionist claims that Israel is a “moral beacon”, a “light unto the nations”, a “Western-style democracy” and a “progressive paradise” is entirely reasonable.

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 3:56 pm

        echinococcus: “after it was obtained by conquest and genocide.”

        It was conquest and counter-genocide.

        An international body made a (mere) recommendation (which they had no intention to enforce), which involved:

        – not one Arab farmer leaving their land
        – not one Arab business owner losing their business
        – not one Arab homeowner leaving their home
        – not one Arab village dweller leaving their village

        One party to the recommendation filled the streets singing and dancing; the other party, enraged, opted for sniping and bombing.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        February 12, 2019, 4:08 pm

        Schipper –
        israel’s “moral bar” is so low you couldn’t even trip over it!

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        February 12, 2019, 4:18 pm

        “Maximus, your military budget vs. foreign aid argument is lawerly (juvenile) quibbling.”

        So “quibbling” translates as “pointing out your inaccuracies”. OK.

        “It is well understood by serious analysts that the alliance with Israel impacts the American footprint (and the associated gigadollar spending) in the region; lefty cranks make it their business to un-know this.”

        Did you run your comments through some weird translation software? This is impossib le to deipher.

        “The “world’s 7th largest weapons seller” sounds wrong”

        “Sounds wrong” eh? Great research there. But even if it is ‘only the 10th, that would be massiely out of propotion to the size of its economy, and begs the question as to why it requires ‘support’ from American taxpayers.

        I note that you haven’t even tried to answer that question.

        “eliminationalistically”

        I’m laughing at you now.

        That isn’t a word, is it?

        You just made it up.

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 4:57 pm

        MDM, your comment contains too little content to warrant a reply, except for your cogent observation that I may have today coined a perfectly serviceable new word: when I chose to use eliminationalistically I was aware I’d never seen it or used it before. I’ll be happy to learn that I made it up, but it’s something I can’t prove and do not claim.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        February 12, 2019, 9:35 pm

        Meanwhile, propaganda soldier Schipper peddling mass murder is of no interest.
        His insight into the controlled-opposition function of JVP, though, fits the facts. Let’s see the response.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        February 12, 2019, 10:10 pm

        Erratum — correct that. Skipper is of no relevance at all. It’s a certain Ckg who appeared to relay “almost all of the JVP people” being fine with Zionist invasion and intent on keeping the loot. Explicitly.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        February 13, 2019, 9:37 am

        Neil Schipper: “It was conquest and counter-genocide.”

        Sure, destroying more than 400 villages, expelling the majority of Nonjews and commiting countless massacres amounts to “counter-genocide” in the Zionist narrative. To them even “conquest” seems to be something legitimate in the post-Nazi era.

        Neil Schipper: “An international body made a (mere) recommendation (which they had no intention to enforce), which involved:

        – not one Arab farmer leaving their land
        – not one Arab business owner losing their business
        – not one Arab homeowner leaving their home
        – not one Arab village dweller leaving their village”

        Yes, that was the UN plan, but never the Zionist plan who enforced everything you listed to make Palestine as arabrein as possible. It was not other than Ben Gurion who proposed the UN in 1947 to put the whole of Palestine under Jewish mandate and delay its indepedence until a Jewish majority was achieved. He even admitted that he would enforce his plan, if the UN would adopt it. The UN didn’t and so the Zionist party claimed to accept the partition to reestablish Jewish immigration and allow military good to enter Palestine and build up an army to take the rest of Palestine.

        Neil Schipper: “One party to the recommendation filled the streets singing and dancing; the other party, enraged, opted for sniping and bombing.”

        Sure, a decade of Jewish terrorism preceeding the belligerent takeover of Palestine and the expulsion of its Jewish majority can be reduced to “one party to the recommendation filled the streets singing and dancing” and when the other party tries to defend the illegtimate and violent partition/conquest of its country and the expulsion of its majority it is not “counter-genocide”.

        Who are you trying to fool, Neil?

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        February 13, 2019, 8:58 pm

        “the Zionist plan who enforced everything you listed to make Palestine as arabrein as possible.”

        I doubt that any Palestinian Arab believed that the Zionists would keep to those recommendations, and they had good reason for disbelief.

        The Zionists had form. Even in the very early days they bought farms from absentee landlords and then drove off the Arab tenant farmers.

    • annie
      annie
      February 12, 2019, 1:29 pm

      Calculate (a) annual US aid to the Zionist entity as a percent of US military budget

      should we include the cost of protecting that demanding little apartheid state and carrying out its every whim (trillions)? or just the billions we hand it directly?

      that reminds me, in the al jazeera undercover sting israel lobby USA one of the featured aipac lobbyists said no one ever mentions palestinians anymore, currently all the pressure is directed towards iran. that could get very expensive. it’s already cost us a lot in syria. and prior to that, even more in iraq.

      (b) the annual cost to the average American worker of this aid to the bloodthirsty murdering Zionists.

      are you sure? that might piss people off.

      btw, i love math. it was my favorite subject in school when i was a kid, and i was good at it — straight A’s.

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 1:49 pm

        A precondition for completing the assignment is not being a liar.

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 2:34 pm

        I see you expanded your comment without indication.

        The “US is in Iraq and Syria at Israel’s demand” is just a trope. It’s a trope that relies on the geopolitical-military-industrial complex of the United States of America having almost no gentiles of high intelligence with an understanding of regional issues and with aspirations for a less conflicted Middle East.

        Do the calculation, Annie.

      • annie
        annie
        February 12, 2019, 2:52 pm

        A precondition for handing out assignments is not being a liar.

        now answer the question:

        should we include the cost of protecting that demanding little apartheid state and carrying out its every whim (trillions)? or just the billions we hand it directly?

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 4:06 pm

        In Creative Writing you can indulge in agenda-driven lying. What I am asking for is not that.

        You won’t do the calculation; you fear its analytical power.

        Solutions will be posted in about an hour.

      • annie
        annie
        February 12, 2019, 4:15 pm

        neil, we all know the money we give israel is the tip of the iceberg. as i pointed out yesterday in the israel lobby USA undercover sting the aipac rep said they never even mention palestinians anymore, it’s all iran iran iran. this is coming directly from the mouth of lobby whom i quoted. and you want us to divorce our policy with iran from the cost equation? that is a fundamentally flawed calculation because if our policy towards iran was separate from aipac and israel the lobby wouldn’t be focused on it.

        and what about the cost of all these court cases and the expense dozens of states incur monitoring their own citizens pandering to these laws in state after state and now before congress to strip us of out 1st amendment rights. who’s paying for that if not the american tax payers? you can pretend the money we fork over to israel is limited to the 38 billion, but you’re not fooling anyone around here. and you have the gall to call me a liar? run off and do your little meaningless calculations meant to minimize the impact of american taxpayers sustaining that little criminal state. we could care less. and there’s only one juvenile in this conversation – you!

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 4:45 pm

        “every whim”
        “trillions”
        Yes: liar.
        If Israel was one seventeenth as evil as you pronounce, and America gave them every cover, Hebron would be at most 20% Arab by now.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        February 13, 2019, 9:45 am

        Neil Schipper: “If Israel was one seventeenth as evil as you pronounce, and America gave them every cover, Hebron would be at most 20% Arab by now.”

        That only proves that Israel does not only need US cover to be as evil as it would like to be.

    • scott9854958
      scott9854958
      February 12, 2019, 1:44 pm

      “Here’s a challenge to you and your readers (only five minutes of googling needed): Calculate (a) annual US aid to the Zionist entity as a percent of US military budget”

      Look at Mr. Nuance dredging out one of AIPAC’s hoariest talking points. (Although their usual tactic is to peg aid to Israel as a percentage of the ENTIRE national budget. You might want to use that one for better effect.)

      You get zero points for nuance and zero for creativity.

      I like this formula better: what percentage of U.S. foreign military aid goes to Israel? And how much does each Israeli citizen get yearly from U.S. taxpayers?

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 12, 2019, 2:45 pm

        Funny you should try that tack because on this site, mainstream outlets like WaPo and NYT are pretty much daily castigated for purported rank Zionist apologism, and I pretty much never find in the referenced news articles and opinion pieces mention of the sorts of numbers I consider quite telling. I don’t understand this.

        But since you are making this specific claim, my reply can’t be anything but: you are lying.

    • Keith
      Keith
      February 12, 2019, 5:12 pm

      NEIL SCHIPPER- “…every discussion that attempts nuance….”

      Neil, you wouldn’t know nuance if it bit you in the you-know-what. You are consummately arrogant which you have confused with cleverness. As for the “norms of the region,” since the Middle East has been thoroughly screwed-up by Western imperialism, it is intellectually dishonest to blame the natives for the successful implementation of our polices. And by “our” I am including Israel which has become an integral part of empire.

  15. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    February 12, 2019, 7:25 am

    So she has apologised. Even though she did nothing wrong.

    Now, it’s very easy for me, sitting in anonymity behind a computer, to say she should have stood firm. But the pressure on her must have been immense, and if I were in her position I’d probably have done the same thing.

    However, as the Corbyn fiasco has shown us this side of the pond, you cannot appease the unappeasable. Give an inch, they’ll take a mile, and it still won’t be enough, because it never CAN be enough. The aim is to make any and all meaningful criticism of Israel into, essentially, a criminal offence, or at least a career ending one. And the sad thing is, it works.

  16. Marnie
    Marnie
    February 12, 2019, 8:15 am

    @MDM ‘Give an inch, they’ll take a mile, and it still won’t be enough, because it never CAN be enough;. Exactly. And an apology to the wrong person is a sign of weakness. Ilhan has been catching it ever since she ran – death threats, attacks on herself, her marriage, her family, her ethnicity, her religion. They can’t stand her awesome and proud hijabi self. #ISTANDWITHILHAN #FUCKAIPAC

  17. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    February 12, 2019, 10:01 am

    noun
    noun: trope; plural noun: tropes
    1.
    a figurative or metaphorical use of a word or expression.

    Google doesn’t seem to contain a list of anti-semitic tropes.

    Maybe it is because they would have to provide examples inconvenient to the discussion. You know, the other semitic cultures on the planet which dwarf the Jewish one.

  18. Vera Gottlieb
    Vera Gottlieb
    February 12, 2019, 10:08 am

    I hope she has a strong consistency because AIPAC and the likes are going to make her life hell on Earth. The entire jewish lobby should be ashamed of itself – all of it. Move to israel if you are so into defending it.

  19. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    February 12, 2019, 1:07 pm

    Some questions: [1] why would anyone think that a comment about AIPAC’s funding of political campaigns was “about Jews”? [2] why is a comment about what SOME JEWS DO [e.g., Jews inside or allied with AIPAC] necessarily anti-semitic ?[3] if commenting about AIPAC spending political money (buying politicians) is going to be called anti-semitic by the “true keepers of the allowable speech” , would the “true keepers of the allowable speech” please explain how such a suggestion could be spoken/tweeted/written in a way that would not be called (by them) anti-semitic?

    • annie
      annie
      February 12, 2019, 1:16 pm

      would the “true keepers of the allowable speech” please explain how such a suggestion could be spoken/tweeted/written in a way that would not be called (by them) anti-semitic?

      that’s impossible, the only thing that will satisfy the “true keepers of the allowable speech” is complete and utter silence on this issue.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      February 12, 2019, 3:02 pm

      @pabelmont.

      Intellectual dishonesty. That’s why. Distract from the issue by accusing others of antisemitism. Hasbara has failed. It cannot justify real existing Zionism any longer. The accusation of hate is the only thing that is left for liars and imbeciles to distract from legitimate criticism.

  20. Mooser
    Mooser
    February 12, 2019, 2:44 pm

    “I hope “tune” is not an anti-Semitic trope!”

    Oh, please! What else could it be!

    • gamal
      gamal
      February 12, 2019, 3:49 pm

      ” anti-Semitic trope!”

      Le St Trop ( a Lyon) serves tagine, its not great, so are all trops forbidden now,

      would now be a great moment for all those Jews who believe they either have a special responsibility in the matter of Zionism or privilege however you want to see it wouldn’t it be great if they vociferously rallied to Omar and attacked the ossified and utterly imperialist Democratic establishment now…right now or not? maybe later sometime?

  21. bcg
    bcg
    February 12, 2019, 3:22 pm

    @Neil Schipper: “Criticizing Israeli behavior unreferenced to the norms of the region is evidence of immaturity or bad faith. Israel can and should take pride in where its managed to hold its moral bar.”

    Anything goes because Syria is always worse? This is the moral bar Americans should accept?

    • annie
      annie
      February 12, 2019, 4:00 pm

      placing snipers on hilltops slaughtering protestors and “moral bar” don’t mix. there’s no moral bar that allows that. maybe “immoral bar” iow, how low can you go, would be more appropriate.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      February 12, 2019, 4:23 pm

      It’s the old ‘villa in the jungle’, ‘rough neighbourhood’ argument.

      A ‘modern’ version of the old 19th century colonial perspective: Sure, our behaviour is a bit harsh, but hey, when you’re a white man surrounded by savages you don’t have much choice, do you?

  22. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    February 12, 2019, 5:37 pm

    @Neil Schipper
    “If Israel was one seventeenth as evil as you pronounce, and America gave them every cover, Hebron would be at most 20% Arab by now”

    Have you got a thing about the number 17 or is there some weird biblical connotation ?

    As regards to degrees of evil well with it`s all about the ability to suppress knowledge of evil doings. Remember eg the Nazis and the Fascists of the 20th century didn`t have the pesky Internet,smart phones and 24/7 worldwide news coverage to deal with otherwise Zios would have mutated into being lets say using your biblical maths at least seventeen times more evil than they are now.

    When you think about it`s all very eliminating and eliminentory.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qk9o_ZeR7s

    You really should get out more.

  23. Neil Schipper
    Neil Schipper
    February 12, 2019, 6:00 pm

    (b) Calculate the annual cost to the average American worker of aid to the bloodthirsty murdering Zionists

    Solution:

    Population of USA: 0.33B
    Active working & earning = 0.33B * 63% = 208M
    Annual aid to Israel = $3.8B
    American worker average annual contribution to Israel = $3.8B / (0.33B * 63%) = $18

    Eighteen bucks.

    Thus, the guy frying up the chips at the local burger joint completes his annual financial obligation to the Jewish state before coffee break on his first day of work after New Year’s.

    For the tenured American Studies professor, it’s less than half an hour.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer
      February 12, 2019, 7:18 pm

      @Neil

      “Thus, the guy frying up the chips at the local burger joint completes his annual financial obligation to the Jewish state before coffee break on his first day of work after New Year’s. ”

      Now there’s a turn of phrase for sure.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      February 12, 2019, 7:43 pm

      $18.00! Such a bargain! And so much Israel gives the US for its money.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      February 12, 2019, 8:10 pm

      “his annual financial obligation to the Jewish state”

      And exactly why is any American, or the USA as a whole, obligated to send even a single, bent, worn, 1943 cent to Israel?

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      February 13, 2019, 10:19 am

      Neil: “Thus, the guy frying up the chips at the local burger joint completes his annual financial obligation to the Jewish state before coffee break on his first day of work after New Year’s.”

      Yes, that’s a good example to show what obligations US servants have to Israel. But you should it in a much brighter context. With the same amount of mony the US could …

      … provide Medicaid to more than 1.2 million US Americans. Or
      … double the federal spending on energy efficiency and renewable energy (16.000 babies arrive early each year, because of air pollution). Or
      … give the Environmental Protection Agency 50% Raise. Or
      … increase federal aid to public K-12 schools by 25%. Or
      … almost double the heating assistance for low-income households. Or
      … double the fund it needs for substance use and mental health
      … or … or … or …

      If only the US american servants wouldn’t have to kneel down to the Zionist golden calf.

  24. Neil Schipper
    Neil Schipper
    February 12, 2019, 10:32 pm

    (Second attempt; prior was eaten inadvertently or censored.)

    (a) Calculate annual US aid to the Zionist entity as a percent of US military budget.

    Solution:

    US annual military budget: $700B
    US annual aid to Israel: $3.8B

    That’s 0.54%, about half of 1%.

    For those who like more creative pursuits, here’s an imaginary scene: Students from SJP are sitting at a table in front of a mock apartheid wall with posters claiming: “America is Israel’s bitch! This must end!” A passerby saunters over, and the girl at the table says, “Hey! Did you know that America HANDS OVER the equivalent of ONE TWO-HUNDREDTH of America’s military budget to Israel EVERY YEAR!”

  25. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    February 13, 2019, 6:57 am

    @Neil Schipper
    “US annual aid to Israel: $3.8B”
    Multiplied by 17 Years= $64.6B
    Wow that would pay for at least 10 Mexican Walls all lined up in formation so that if the drug toting criminals get over the first one then they would have to get over the next one then the next one and very soon they would get so bored they would turn back and come in as usual on the back of a lorry instead.

    Hey and just think your fellow scientist Daffy Donald as the mainstay of his 2020 campaign could boast that he is going to build 17 walls and Israel is going to pay for them. But then as with anything to do with Zioland it would have to be run past AIPAC members and appproved by them as it will impact seriously on their country(Israel).

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      February 13, 2019, 10:34 am

      Ossinev: “Wow that would pay for at least 10 Mexican Walls all lined up in formation …”

      $5 Billion Could Buy a Lot of Border Security
      Fixing the asylum system, upgrading ports of entry, and tightening security checkpoints might do more to advance Trump’s goals than a wall.
      https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/there-are-good-ways-spend-5-billion-border-security/580186/

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      February 13, 2019, 1:56 pm

      Plus, ‘Neil’ pointedly refuses to answer what I and others have repeatedly asked: Which is: why does a relatively wealthy “start-up nation” like Israel gets even a cent of American taxpayers’ money? This is a particularly pertinent question given that the US, despite what so many of its citizens believe, is extremely stingy when it comes to foreign aid, giving much less than almost all other first-world nations.

      I wonder why ‘Neil’ doesn’t want to answer this obvious question?

      • Neil Schipper
        Neil Schipper
        February 13, 2019, 6:45 pm

        I wonder why ‘Neil’ doesn’t want to answer this obvious question?

        Stop showboating. I’ve alluded to this, and my position should be clear:

        February 12, 2019, 4:00 am, para 1
        February 12, 2019, 12:50 pm, para 3
        Also very relevant but more indirectly: February 12, 2019, 2:34 pm, para 2

  26. klm90046
    klm90046
    February 17, 2019, 4:41 pm

    TRUTH, ISRAELI INFLUENCE and BENJAMINS are all anti-Semitic tropes.

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