I’m pretty new to Christmas, but it seems to me that multiculturalism is transforming the religious holiday into a generic American holiday not that different from Thanksgiving. My gentile in-laws tell me that this is an old trend. Still I can’t help offering the following very impressionistic observations of 2007 Christmas.
–Most tasteful Christmas display in my little town was by one of my intermarried brethren. Hey we’re everywhere.
–I show up at a Christmas party and a kid shakes my hand and says, "Happy Eid."
–No grace at my wife’s family’s Christmas dinner. No talk of going to church. Both used to happen.
–The rising tide of "Happy Holidays" language, even from the President.
–My niece makes matzoh balls at her Christmas dinner (she loves them) and declares that she wants "a Jewish Christmas," i.e., let’s order takeout Chinese and then go to the movies.
That last comment especially tells me that as Jews and gentiles mingle in the ruling class, the old rituals are being transformed. This was my most comfortable Christmas in nearly 20 of them, I don’t know why, it didn’t feel quite as otherworldly to me. Jewish Christmas. It doesn’t matter how anti-assimilationist you are; it’s going to happen….
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You're a sick dude…
Yeah, Phil's not helping the "anti-Israel doesn't mean anti-Jewish" cause. He's been pretty explicit, of late, in explaining that he was drawn to anti-Zionism by his revulsion for Jews and Judaism.
Yeah, Phil's not helping the "anti-Israel doesn't mean anti-Jewish" cause. He's been pretty explicit, of late, in explaining that he was drawn to anti-Zionism by his revulsion for Jews and Judaism.
Dear Eric Foner
If a WASP said he was revulsed by his waspy background, no one would think a thing of it or attack him for his heresy. When a Jew says he is revused by his Jewish heritage he's attacked as some kind of anti-Semite.
I assume, by the way, that you are not Eric Foner, the historian. If you are I assume you'll remember what floor of what hall you lived in at Columbia in 59-60 and what was your rommmate's name that year. Would you happen to recall?
"It doesn't matter how anti-assimilationist you are; it's going to happen…"
You know I like you, Phil. But you have an annoying way of projecting yr own personal predilections upon society at large & acting as if the entire world is acting out yr own personal dramas.
No, the Israel lobby and Jewish pro-Israel consensus is not about to disintegrate as you project (would that it were so). No, most Jews have absolutely no need, interest or desire for Christmas in whatever form. Christmas, contrary to what you claim, ain't gonna happen…No, most Jews have no problems of dual loyalty as you do since we understand the terms quite differently than you.
So in short, you ARE dreaming, but you're dreaming yr own dream that isn't shared by most other Jews around you.
Silverstein:
the coming tragedy for jews in America is their inability to subject their own culture to the same scrutiny that they subject other cultures.
Jews have failed as elites EVERYWHERE in EVERY age. Have you read Kevin MacDonald's "Stalin's Willing Executioners?" Yup, Jewish self absorption allowed them to blow that position too. In Weimar Germany they mismanaged the currency but apparently managed to profit from its demise. Today in the US, Goldman Sachs sells worthless subprime paper and then makes an additional profit from shorting it!! (Just one example…there are thousands).
How long can this malarkey go on before a major backlash occurs?
Weiss can see over the horizon however dimly. He senses that Jewish dual loyalty as understood ny the majority of Americans is gonna cause your dream to end in tears.
I really don't see, from my WASP pov, how watering down Christmas into a meaningless nothing chinese take out day is 'good' anymore than watering down thanksgiving to an excuse to over-eat and watch football (like Americans need them) is 'good'.
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PW, I like your discussion on the WASP-Jewish power shift – something no one seems willing to discuss, but frankly, as booted out member of the old guard, all I can say is the Jewish elite have been very poor custodians, precisely because of their hostility towards the core culture, and what we are seeing is the beginning of a massive failure of predominately Jewish stewardship, largely because of massive hypocrisy and insincerity. For example, do we really think neocons were/are concerned about the well-being or democratic nature of Muslim countries?
Malcolm – Waaaaayyy to blame the Jews for all the problems in this country. Classic. Like the WASPs aren't still largely in control. What world do you live in?
You haven't been booted out of anything. You are simply trying to displace blame on to others and cleanse yourself of any responsibility for navigating a more complex world than you're used to.
I agree with you that there is no benefit from watering down Christmas or Thanksgiving. Phil seems to be thinking out loud, as he does on many of his posts, which is why he sounds like a blabbering idiot on this issue. Sadly, you sound just as silly.
Gene,
"If a WASP said he was revulsed by his waspy background, no one would think a thing of it or attack him for his heresy. When a Jew says he is revused by his Jewish heritage he's attacked as some kind of anti-Semite."
Where do you come up with this stuff? You make a claim that Jews are some way, which "they" aren't and then you bash them with it.
A WASP who is able to gain some perspective on his own ethnic group is a more enlightened individual. Same goes for the Jew who is able to do the same. The WASP who hates his own ethnic group is a self-hating WASP, just as the Jew who hates his own ethnic group is a self-hating Jew.
I highly doubt that "Eric Foner" is THE Eric Foner, but if he is, hopefully he will share more with us as the level of disinformation by Weiss and his minions in the comments section is quite high.
Gene – Let me just add that there is nothing wrong with being a self-hating Jew or WASP. If you truly hate your own ethnic identity that is what you are. It doesn't mean you hate yourself. You simply hate that aspect of yourself.
There are probably psychological reasons underlying your hatred for your own ethnic group, as one can be critical of one's group and still remain attached to the positive aspects of one's culture.
"No, most Jews have absolutely no need, interest or desire for Christmas in whatever form." – Silverstein
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I think Silverstein could as well have written:'Jews have absolutely no need, interest or disire for ANYTHING CHRISTIAN'.
This may be true for him and many others but not for Phil since Phil, by his intellectual temperament and outlook, has more an affinity to universal, inclusive (Christian) values than to exclusive (tribal) Jewish ones.
The concept of the eternal struggle between the Jews and their enemies, which is at the heart of much of the Jewish worldview, is not Phil's worldview.
I'll let Richard Silverstein answer you for himself Klaus, but I think you're distorting his comments. One who has read Silverstein knows that this is not true at all.
Must you celebrate Passover in order to not be anti-Jewish?
Why would Jews celebrate Christmas? They can share in it with their Christian friends as many of them do, and they can love the universal aspects of Christianity, while objecting to the exclusionary parts of it, but do they really need to celebrate it?
Like the WASPs aren't still largely in control. What world do you live in?
One, apparently more attached to reality than the one you inhabit.
You say I haven't been booted out of anything? Do you even know what I am referring to? I can fill pages with stories of mostly east European Jewish elite engaging in ethnic nepotism, after naive WASPs were guilt tripped into letting them serve on various WASP controlled schools, museums, and so on. Within a few years they were 'controlled' by Jews and instead of pursuing a neutral agenda pursued a pro-Jewish, Anti-Christian one. Out went the Christmas trees, out went the carols, out went bible study class, in went the Jewish 'cutlural' centers and Holocaust memorial/exhibit/required course Harvard is a classic example, a college, ironically enough, founded as a seminary.
And exactly what brand of crack are you smoking when you say WASPs are still largely in control? You really think arabist WASPs like myself are happy with our MIddle east Policy?
Why would Jews celebrate Christmas?
If they weren't so vehemently anti-Christian they could celebrate it as a secular holiday as many Protestants and German Jews used to do.
"Silverstein:
the coming tragedy for jews in America is their inability to subject their own culture to the same scrutiny that they subject other cultures."
I agree. I think Weiss is one of the view who do, after *years* of trying to deal with this, I think most are largely incapable of discussing it. Anyone who breeches the subject is an anti-semite, whatever that means anymore.
Malcolm – Please provide me with specific details of boards that were invaded by Jews and have instituted anti-Christian agendas. Until then I'll file your claims in the Angry Man file and not consider it relevant.
The 540 members of Congress include 100 senators, 435 representatives and five nonvoting members, who include four delegates, from the District of Columbia, Guam, American Samoa and the Virgin Islands, and one resident commissioner from Puerto Rico.
After Catholics and Baptists, the most-represented denominations in the 109th Congress are Methodists, at 63 in both houses; Presbyterians, at 50; Episcopalians, at 41; and Lutherans, at 20. Another 38 members of Congress identified themselves as Christians, without specifying a denomination, and seven listed no religious background.
Eleven senators and 26 House members identified themselves as Jewish, while 11 representatives and five senators said they belonged to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Other faith groups represented in the 109th Congress include the African Methodist Episcopal Church, Christian Reformed Church, Christian Scientist, Community of Christ, Disciples of Christ, Eastern Orthodox, Pentecostal, Quaker, Seventh-day Adventist, Unitarian and United Church of Christ and Congregationalist.
In its analysis of the ethnic makeup of the 109th Congress, Congressional Quarterly said the number of African-Americans in Congress had increased by four with one in the Senate and 42 in the House. All are Democrats.
The number of Hispanics in Congress was up two in the Senate — one Democrat and one Republican — and increased by one in the House to 24 — 19 Democrats and five Republicans.
Asian-American representation in Congress remained the same at two senators and three House members, all Democrats, while the number of American Indians dropped by two to none in the Senate and one in the House, Republican Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma.
Rep. Bobby Jindal, a Republican from Louisiana and a Catholic, becomes the only member of Asian Indian heritage in the 109th Congress and only the second Asian-American representative in history.
The number of women senators remained the same at 14 — 10 Democrats and four Republicans– while the 65 women in the House — 42 Democrats and 23 Republicans — represented a net increase of five.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0406217.htm
ME – That's not a bad idea. All of the Jews I know "celebrate" Christmas by taking the day off work (if possible) and having a wonderful day with their family and friends. Since most Jews have Christians family members through intermarriage there is a lot of natural "celebrating" of Christmas with Christian family members.
Have you heard about Festivus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
"after *years* of trying to deal with this, I think most are largely incapable of discussing it. Anyone who breeches the subject is an anti-semite, whatever that means anymore."
Perhaps it has something to do with the way you're discussing it.
I find that African-Americans are loathe to talk to me about black crime if I say things like "Those crazy black killas are ruining our society. We got to straighten them out before they all get hung up again on trees like strange fruit." They usually end up calling me a racist, whatever that means anymore.
Warren, yeah that's how I broached the subject. You're right. Same with antisemite Jimmy Carter, antisemite Walsh and Meisshermier, antisemite Paul Findley…the list goes on.
"Please provide me with specific details of boards that were invaded by Jews and have instituted anti-Christian agendas. Until then I'll file your claims in the Angry Man file and not consider it relevant."
Do as you wish, as Yung said "people cannot stand too much reality" You're doing a great job Warren!
Providing a laundry list of the ethnic backgrounds of Congress is nonsense.
Weiss, Seymour Hersh , the above mentioned have discussed/documented in detail the power of the Israel lobby and Jewish elite.
here is one of literally thousands of examples
I Was Israel’s Dupe’ http://www.counterpunch.org/Hayden07202006.html
correct link
http://www.counterpunch.org/hayden07202006.html
I Was Israel’s Dupe
By TOM HAYDEN
Alexander Cockburn writes: Twenty four years ago Ariel Sharon’s artillerymen bombarded Beirut, causing huge terrible civilian casualties, just as Israel’s bombs are doing today. The destruction was so savage that NYT’s Beirut correspondent Thomas Friedman complained bitterly in an indiscreet in-house memo when his editors axed the word “indiscriminate” which Friedman had used to describe the bombing. I published that internal memo in the Village Voice and Friedman thought he was going to lose his job. Standing next to those Israeli gunners and cheering them on were Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda, eager to promote Hayden’s political career in California.
ME – Sort of ironic that Hayden's piece was from Robert Scheer's Truthdig. Robert is Jewish (on his mother's side).
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050523/scheer0510
So much for Jews all rowing in the same direction, huh?
And I thought that Friedman was supposed to be part of the cabal also. So hard to keep everyone in a box…
Can you or Malcolm please provide with me proof of Jews invading a school board and crusading against Christians? That was Malcolm's charge and I am asking him for proof of such. Tom Hayden being a dupe for Israel does not provide evidence that Jews are on a mission to bring down Christians or WASPs as he claims.
By the way, it's Jung, not Yung.
Warren, no one is saying all Jews do this or that. It's funny you're resorting to the 'classic' defense – accusations of antisemitism and what seems like obtuse denial.
You're right Warren, its Mormons and Methodists suing and pressuring school boards to ban Christmas Carols:
The Jewish grinch
who stole Christmas
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47775
That has changed, you may have noticed. And I blame my fellow Jews. When it comes to pushing the multicultural, anti-Christian agenda, you find Jewish judges, Jewish journalists, and the American Civil Liberties Union, at the forefront.
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Lapin can hardly be called a self-hating Jew. Jung or Yung, keep denying reality Warren, you know what Phranklin :) said about it, right?
Religious Freedom is for Everyone- Not Just Minorities by Rabbi Daniel Lapin
"I don't think that America's Jewish community does itself any long term good by denouncing every public expression of Christian faith as if it were a force-fed dose of castor oil. This anti-Christianism is not only unhealthy for all Americans; I think it is particularly destructive for Jews to be leading the extirpation of all signs of Christian fervor from the village square."
http://www.towardtradition.org/article_Religious_Freedom.htm
again no one is saying ALL Jews, but the Jewish elite, and identifiably Jewish organizations like the ADL are at the forefront of anti-Christian bigotry – stemming not from separation of church and state -if they were sincere about that they wouldnt' be so pro Israel – but from an ancient hatred of Christianity.
Christians, Hitler and Jews for Jesus
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I think the group that is not just disliked by most Jews but really hated are the Jews for Jesus. They are percieved as doing Hitler's work by other means.
I think the animosity of Jews towards Christians predates the Christian persecution of Jews. It started with the attempt to turn Jews into followers of Jesus i.e. Christians.
The worldview behind this animosity is a sort of anthropological assuption: There are Jews and Gentiles. Christianity is something for the (lower) species of the gentiles.
What I find offensive in Siverstein's post is his "abolutely not".
me – if you have a problem with the separation of church and state than you should take it up with the millions of Americans who support this separation, both the jewish and non-jewish ones. I'll leave you to guess which there are more of.
Klaus – You say that Christianity is for the lower species of gentiles in the Jews world.
Finally – I think you are misreading Silverstein – I would email him for clarification if you are really interested in understanding his point.
Do you actually know any Jews? Where do you cook this up? And don't bring out some biblical passage or ancient talmudic text that isn't practiced by modern jewry. You can convert to Judaism right now if you wish. No one is stopping you. You sound like a person with a major chip on his shoulder.
Jews for Jesus are not particuarly popular because they are prosteltyzing to other Jews all the time.
I'm sure if a lot of Germans converted to Judaism and frequently spoke to you about converting yourself you'd get tired of it, especially if it required you to give up your own religion which you may have been very content with.
I want to reiterate the invitation to convert to Judaism. If you're open to it, we are open to you.
That was strange. Please excuse you the above post, I must have made an error. Here is what I meant to write:
Klaus – You say that Christianity is for the lower species of gentiles in the Jews world.
Do you actually know any Jews? Where do you cook this up? And don't bring out some biblical passage or ancient talmudic text that isn't practiced by modern jewry. You can convert to Judaism right now if you wish. No one is stopping you. You sound like a person with a major chip on his shoulder.
Jews for Jesus are not particuarly popular because they are prosteltyzing to other Jews all the time.
I'm sure if a lot of Germans converted to Judaism and frequently spoke to you about converting yourself you'd get tired of it, especially if it required you to give up your own religion which you may have been very content with.
I want to reiterate the invitation to convert to Judaism. If you're open to it, we are open to you.
Finally – I think you are misreading Silverstein – I would email him for clarification if you are really interested in understanding his point.
As per Malcom's concern about WASPs waning power:
2008 Presidential Candidates
Biden – WASP
Clinton – WASP
Dodd – White Catholic
Edwards – WASP
Gravel – WASP
Kucinich – White Ethnic
Obama – Mixed Ethnicity
Richardson – Ethnic Catholic
Guliani – White Ethnic
Huckabee – WASP
Hunter – WASP
Keyes – African-American
McCain -WASP
Paul – WASP
Romney -White Mormom
Thompson – WASP
Why have WASPs been slipping a bit? Look at what the Joos are making them do:
Huckabee's muzzle control problem
by Jim Tankersley
Republican Mike Huckabee took his presidential campaign for a quick pheasant-hunting expedition in Iowa on Wednesday, and at one point, a reporter asked why he hadn’t invited sporting enthusiast Dick Cheney along. "Because I want to survive all the way through this," Huckabee replied, in a chuckling dig at the vice president’s accidental shooting of a quail-hunting partner last year.
Any good sportsman, though, couldn’t miss a distinctly Cheneyesque moment in the press accounts of the former Arkansas governor’s morning hunt: At one point, Huckabee’s party turned toward a cluster of reporters and cameramen and, when they kicked up a pheasant, fired shotgun blasts over the group’s heads.
This, friends, is dangerously bad hunting form.
Your Swamp correspondent, the son of a longtime hunter education instructor, grew up plying the corn rows and stream banks of rural Oregon with a Labrador retriever and a Mossberg 20-gauge pump shotgun. On our hunts for pheasant, grouse and quail, merely swinging a gun barrel in the general direction of another person was grounds for day-long banishment to the truck (which smelled like wet dog).
Suffice to say, if any of our hunting mates had pulled a stunt like Huckabee’s yesterday, we never would have invited them back. It’s the sort of behavior that drives safety-conscious hunters up the wall, because it reinforces a reckless, gun-totin’ stereotype.
My colleague James Oliphant reports that Huckabee’s party was about 75 yards away from the press corps Wednesday when a pheasant jumped up and flew toward the reporters, drawing several shots. “That was too close,” he reports a cameraman saying.
Perhaps Huckabee missed hunter’s safety classes – Arkansas only requires them for hunters born after 1968 – but the etiquette on this point is clear.
“Never point a firearm at yourself or others,” the International Hunter Education Association declares in its Basic Safety Rules. Later, it adds, “Never point your firearm at something you do not intend to shoot. Make sure you positively identify what you are shooting at and know what lies in front of and beyond it.”
Huckabee emerged happily from his hunt, three dead pheasants in tow, Oliphant reports. Asked for a metaphor to describe the hunt, he replied, "Don't get in my way. This is what happens."
Posted by Jim Tankersley on December 27, 2007 12:39
"me – if you have a problem with the separation of church and state than you should take it up with the millions of Americans who support this separation, both the jewish and non-jewish ones.
So why do jews support 'the jewish state' of isreal? it's that blatant hypocrisy that I am talking about, which you avoid.
And no most Americans don't support banning CHristmas trees, ect – and you're avoiding the big point – it is Jewish organizations and as the posts point out Jewish judges, journalists and such that lead this- it is simply a twisted contorted interpretation of the Constitution (- which no where says 'separation of church and state' – that would have been odd for Congress, which had and has a Chaplain – ) to reflect a hatred for Christianity which is prevalent in the Jewish community.
As expected, you dodged the issue.
Tankersley :: ever hear the term "kingmaker" ? BOth you and Warren seem to be denying the influence of the Israeli lobby, when dozens of politicians – as a telling sign – usually at the end of their careers – about the influence of the Israeli lobby – Mershiemer and Walt documented it, Findley did – You vote against Israel and you're career is over. –and your only response to post long lists of WASPs.
Its the same old deceit. Like I said, keep avoiding reality, most Americans are finding they no longer can.
Warren:
"The WASP who hates his own ethnic group is a self-hating WASP, just as the Jew who hates his own ethnic group is a self-hating Jew."
My opinion is that "self-hating" Jews (or WASPS for that matter) do not exist. It's just a way for any group's intellectual policemen to demonize and delegitimize other members of the same group who have inconvenient opinions.
Warren,
I know some Jews, have been to Israel in 2002 for a couple of weeks and have been studying the subject for some time.
If you don't agree with what I wrote than I see you don't have that interpretation of Judaism. I'm glad you don't. Let's leave it at that.
That I took issue with Siverstein's post might suggest that I am Christian with a 'chip on my shoulder' (meaning 'oversensitive', right?). But I am neither. I used to be Calvinist, which actually also has the concept of 'the chosen' which I found unconvincing and unethical. Again, let's leave it at that. – Klaus
I guess Phil's take on Christmas is interesting, but I don't think that most Christians would care for it. I get annoyed at seeing a K on everything I eat, but a Jewish Christmas is just disrespectful.
Todd – I'm Jewish and I think it is disrespecful as well. Christians believe that Christ was the messiah and his birth is a special day. All of the gift giving and commercialization creates noise around the real reason for the holiday. I wish my Christians friends a very merry Christmas because I respect them and their religion, even if I don't subscribe to it. We have the same values and our actions really shouldn't be any different if we are both acting in line with our faiths. Phil is non-religious so he is irreverent to both Judaism and Christianity. Hence his "Jewish Christmas".
I do not keep kosher, but I am not particularly annoyed at seeing a K on food items or Halal advertised on many restaurants where I live. Should I be?
Have a happy and healthy new year. A non-denominational holiday we can all celebrate!
I ran into problems with Phil's spam filters and have posted some comments relevant to this thread at my blog for Ethnic Ashkenazim Against Zionist Israel.
The URL is http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-jew-mundoweiss-jewish-christmas.html .
Please refrain from advertising your own blog on this website.
Phil,
Your in-laws don't say grace and don't go to church any more? I'd suspect that is so as not to embarrass you, not because Christmas is becoming more secular in general. I dare say that if you didn't show up for a couple of years then they would go back to their former customs.
I ran into problems with Phil’s spam filters and put up some discussion related to this thread on my blog for Ethnic Ashkenazim Against Zionist Israel.
The refusal of the commenter named Shai to pay any attention to what I am saying about Hasmonean and Herodian period celebrations of Hanukkah and the use of ipse dixit arguments in citing irrelevant materials (like the Jerusalem [?] Talmud) of the late 2nd through 7th centuries is rather similar to the refusal of the organized Jewish community and many Jews to pay attention either to The Israel Lobby by Walt & Mearsheimer or to the analysis of Finkelstein, Masaad, Kovel, Karmi, Abu el-Haj, Rabkin.
It is not possible to have a discussion if only one side is listening.
Anyway, the discussion URL is http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-jew-mundoweiss-jewish-christmas.html .
Please refrain from advertising your own blog on this website.
It is also not possible to have a discussion if the other party has already called you a scum sucking heathen who should go to hell. Grow up Martillo. Quit being such a little fascist clown and maybe you'll find people more interested in speaking with you.
Tankersley — for the life of me: What is "white ethnic" and what is an "ethnic catholic"?
Giuliani is an Italian-American catholic, that makes him ethnic? Like, how? And what, on earth, is Kucinic? Is he a protestant or not? If he is catholic, why don't you simply say so? Richardson also looks like a white catholic to me, so what would distinguish him from Giuliani or Dodd? Also, Obama is a protestant
Regarding Christmas, if you are not a Christian you don't have a holiday to celebrate to begin with, so you should just cut the crap. There is no need to send "Happy Holiday"-cards.
However, this is the attitude that leads Europans to think Americans are really Pagans pretending to be Christians.
Happy Holidays Susanne!
Giuliani is an Italian-American catholic, that makes him ethnic? Like, how?
Italian-American is an ethnicity.
And what, on earth, is Kucinic? Is he a protestant or not? If he is catholic, why don't you simply say so?
Kucinich is a Croat-Irish-American. He became mayor of Cleveland by running on an ethnic platform to get the Polish and Slavic vote. Raised Roman Catholic he is more of a New Ager now.
Richardson also looks like a white catholic to me, so what would distinguish him from Giuliani or Dodd?
Richardson is Hispanic. Giulani and Dodd are not.
Also, Obama is a protestant.
Obabma is a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago
From their website:
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:
A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Regarding Christmas, if you are not a Christian you don't have a holiday to celebrate to begin with, so you should just cut the crap. There is no need to send "Happy Holiday"-cards.
Very well.
However, this is the attitude that leads Europans to think Americans are really Pagans pretending to be Christians.
Ever been to Europe "Susanne"? They think Americans are WAY too religious.
I put up a comment that relates to this thread at http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2007/12/jewish-christian-and-palestinian.html .
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