Holocaust porn is serious subject

Eran Shayshon found Naomi Klein’s mention of Holocaust pornography "extraordinarily amusing." Amusing? What’s that about? Does he think it’s not real?
An event on this very topic was just held in San Francisco a few days ago: the screening of a film on this pornography, called Stalags (and a discussion afterwards). The announcement is below.

Here’s a Wikipedia on Stalag porn. The announcement:

Congregation Beth Israel Judea Film Series "Coming Reel Soon" Presents: "Stalags: Holocaust and Pornography in Israel"

Saturday, March 13..

In the early 1960′s Israelis were exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust survivors at the trial of Adolph Eichmann. Simultaneously a series of pornographic books, "Stalags," written by Israelis, became best sellers throughout Israel. These books were subsequently banned in 1962 by the Israeli courts as being anti-Semitic pornography. The books went out of print and circulated underground in specialty second-hand bookstores, however after decades of being off the shelf these books are re-emerging in the public eye.

This film examines this notorious literary phenomenon, exposing the creators of this genre for the first time. Film Director Ari Libsker suggests that this short-lived literary craze shaped the image of the Holocaust for a whole generation of Israelis. Libsker further suggests that the combination of pornography and the Holocaust also appears in canonic Holocaust literature and continues to be a widespread part of the representation of the Holocaust in Israel today. (While the film is not rated, it is not suggested for young or immature viewers.)

Ofer Ashkenazi, PhD, post doctoral fellow who is a visiting scholar from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and currently teaching at UC Berkeley, will lead a discussion and answer questions following the film.


Posted in Israel/Palestine, US Politics

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  1. Sunyata says:

    So, denying it is bad, but sexualizing it is good.

  2. Avi says:

    Is that where Quentin Tarantino gets his inspiration?

  3. Queue says:

    These books were subsequently banned in 1962 by the Israeli courts as being anti-Semitic pornography.

    Who would buy anti-semitic pornography in Israel? Anti-German or anti-Polish pornography maybe, but antisemitic pr0n? What’s up with that?

    • Chaos4700 says:

      That’s just the paradox of Zionists hijacking the term “anti-Semitism” and falsely applying it to things to which they don’t apply.

      That porn would almost certainly have been made by Israeli Jews, for Israeli Jews. Think about it.

      A useful metaphor might be to ponder the quintessential Republican Congressman who vehemently links homosexuality to bestiality, and then is found later on to have engaged in homosexual behavior.

  4. VR says:

    SOME MOVIES AS EXAMPLE

    In the movie Seven Beauties you can see the idea of this coming through, when Giannini attempts to seduce a Nazi female guard to survive. You have to go to one hour and 25 minutes into the film to see the scene (1.25) where it breaks down to this horrendous scene of sexual favor (not for the faint of heart), where he is given food for his acts and turned into a kapo in his prison area –

    SEVEN BEAUTIES

  5. The existence of the Stalags pornography from the early 60′s is something that I was unaware of until today and it is extremely disturbing and certainly not amusing. I assume that Eran Shayshon’s reference to it and the term “extraordinarily amusing” was meant in reference to the accusation regarding advertising mimicking this type of pornography, included in this quote from Naomi Klein.

    By far the most disturbing development in Israeli men’s misogyny towards Israeli women is something known to Israeli women as “Holocaust pornography” where images of emaciated women near ovens, shower heads, cattle cars, and the like are used to sell clothing and other products.”

    If such advertising indeed exists it is certainly not prevalent and even if it is rare it is certainly not amusing. The accusation that such advertising exists must be accompanied with proof, otherwise it is an obscene accusation and not at all amusing.

    There are many elements of misogyny in Israeli society, particularly given the occupation and the clash of modernity with a religious society. But to consider misogyny at the core of Israeli society seems like a ridiculous accusation.

    To add the accusation of Holocaust pornography infiltrating into the advertising without proof is “off the charts”.

    • Shmuel says:

      WJ,

      Klein dismisses this quote as garbage she wrote when she was 19. The claim is supported with a vague citation from an article by Andrea Dworkin published in Ms. Magazine, and refers to the 80s-90s, not the 60s. The Stalag phenomenon is well-known in Israel and has been discussed at length by sociologists. It was extremely short-lived (a couple of years in the early 60s), and did not deal directly with concentration or death camps, but with POW camps. It shocked a lot of people and had some run-ins with the Israeli censors, but the combination of sex, sadism and misogyny is hardly an earth-shattering Israeli invention (contrary to the cherry tomato and the water heater, of course). Nor is the objectification of women (and explicit or implicit violence against them) in advertising an Israeli invention, and I know of no specific Israeli twists and perversions – Holocaust-related or otherwise – in that department.

      Holocaust “porn” is indeed a serious subject, but it has nothing to do with misogyny or sex or the ancient Stalag mags. It has to do with the use of the Holocaust and Holocaust imagery to indoctrinate and manipulate Jews and non-Jews to support the Zionist cause and to excuse Israeli crimes.

  6. VR says:

    ‘There are many elements of misogyny in Israeli society, particularly given the occupation and the clash of modernity with a religious society.’

    It is simply amazing to me WJ that you cannot let loose of your bullshit, even in the middle of a subject like this. First of all none of this has to do with a Huntington ala Lewis “clash of civilizations,” but a choice of a murderous colonial occupation. It has not only chosen its militaristic fate, it tries to export it in arms and “containment” expertise to other nations as a central industry. The occupation brings familial tensions to a boil, imagine what it does to the Palestinian victims (the next time someone tries to say the Palestinians are social misogynists with their women, and how they have to be rescued from Muslim beasts). Second, misogyny is always present with militarism, if you cannot bear to look at it in Israel just ask any woman who was part of the Iraq war where the instances of rape were legion to the point of nurses (as an example) taking immense caution even when they went to the bathrooms in the combat zone. Third, Israel lives off of Holocaust industry, it is the constant refrain for the excuse of not only its never ending militarism but its existence in the current inexcusable form ostensibly called Zionism. There is no need to try to say Holocaust porn is prominent, the violence elicited in this atmosphere alone is pornographic by itself.

  7. Sunyata says:

    VR, for those who are not as well aware of your standpoints, perhaps you could clarify for the others that you are not implying that chauvinism is an acceptable price to pay for military preparedness.