New video released by Obama campaign today begins by refuting Mitt Romney's assertion that Obama would have Israel return to its 1967 borders. About 10 seconds in. Last May in a speech before the State Department, Obama said that a peace deal would be based on the '67 borders. Israel reacted in anger. And ever since he's been retreating.
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard a round table discussion on a news program about the 1967 borders that had not felt contrived and realistically balanced.
I’m thinking of Meet the Press, PBS and This Week, etc.
Chris Hayes is doing a good job with his debate format covering the Middle East, but his show is on at *am Saturday morning. What a time slot… His new Book Twilight of the Elites sounds promising:
Since the 1960s, as the meritocracy elevated a more diverse group of men and women into power, they learned to embrace the accelerating inequality that had placed them near the very top. Their ascension heightened social distance and spawned a new American elite–one more prone to failure and corruption than any that came before it.
“They”ll negotiate a border that is different. ”
They sure will. It will go all the way to Tel Aviv, baby
That’s the spirit… that has kept the Palestinians from making peace for the last 64 years.
The Palestinian State is unAmerican, Fred.
Tyranny and human rights abuses are unAmerican
Freedom and justice are American.
The binational State where everyone lives in freedom and justice is American.
Israel is tied to the wrong horse
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Don Allen | April 26 2:54pm | Permalink
The beginning of the end for the U.S. was Ronald Reagan. The final nail in our coffin was Bush (43). Obama is a democrat on the outside and a republican on the inside. Just as Bill Clinton was the first black President, Obama is the first black republican President. The only thing a conservative victory will do is to accelerate America’s decline. The U.S. will enter another recession, dragging the world economy down with it. We will also start another war to further enrich the top corporations and the men who run them
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spook3 | April 25 10:45pm | Permalink
“It is worse than you think”. It indeed seems to be getting much worse. If Obama wins, deadlock with the GOP in congress. If Romney, a budget and policies that will not solve any of the real problems. Good night and good luck.
Depends actually, if Obama wins, he might bring with him a majority in congress. Then if they just get rid of the filibuster he might be able to accomplish something.
Romney mashes what Obama said, replaced Obama’s words with Romney spiel. Mondoweiss has fallen for it? Not once, but TWICE. Tch tch tch.
You cannot say someone said something, then change what they said!!
Obama has chosen his words carefully. In this clip he says “Israelis and Palestinians will negotiate a border that is different from the one that existed on June 4th 1967″.
The actual legal ‘border’ was the same in 1967 as it was in 1948.
Armistice Demarcation Lines changed in June 1967.
Obama is very precise with his words. In his speech before the State department he said “We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”
The only ’67 ‘lines’ were Armistice Demarcation Lines.
In this instance he has said borders will be negotiated, how the borders will be different from what pre-existed, without going into the detail of the ‘lines’ negotiations would be based on.
Obama is a straight up bigot. Recognizing this about him makes understanding what he says and does about I/P so much easier.
Is there anyone on this blogroll (except me and a couple of house-trolls that are kindly allowed to respond) that agrees with “two states for two peoples” solution(however theoretic it is) on 1949 borders?
If yes, then pls state so, if no (as Seafoid above, cynically puts it), then the righteous indignation about Obama’s position is insencere.
Asherpat
2 states for 2 people- it’s June 4 1967 borders or it’s one man one vote.
The settlers can f*** off. 700,000 douchebag freeloaders
Israel isn’t interested in peace anyway. it wants all the land.
Sovereignty is about responsibility and israel doesn’t have any .
I agree. Those were the borders deemed appropriate by the UN and they should have been quite enough. The concept of a home for Jewish people should be an abstract idea with a modest geographical reality, like Mecca, or the Vatican and St Peter’s.
By the way, I still think this is possible, with one state embodying an autonomous region.
@seafoid: ‘The settlers can f*** off. 700,000 douchebag freeloaders’
Ha! The funniest thing is that they’re probably 75% of the problem on the ground and 90% of the problem when it come to a 2ss.
Even funnier still is that Fredblogs and Hoppy would probably agree with you.
Like Finklestein says, give ‘em notice and tell them when the military are pulling out and you’ll end up with 2-3,000 religious nutters who’ll be crapping themselves.
On the lack of accountability issue President OBama is going to have a hard time. Jobs, subprime loan and foreclosure frauds, torture, and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Obama rolled over. Going to be a very close race.