‘Newseum’ folds under pressure, will not include Gaza cameramen in program honoring fallen journalists

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Last week we reported Israel supporters were pressuring the Newseum to drop two Palestinian journalists, Mahmoud al-Kumi and Hussam Salama, from its yearly event honoring reporters killed in the line of duty. Al-Kumi and Salama worked for Al-Aqsa television and were killed in the Israeli assault on Gaza last November. Although the Newseum originally defended their inclusion, this morning the Washington, DC-based museum dedicated to the news industry announced that al-Kumi and Salama would in fact not be a part of today’s ceremony.

Starting last week, pro-Israel advocates and organizations started to pressure the museum arguing that Al-Kumi and Salama should be considered terrorists because Al-Aqsa TV is affiliated with Hamas. The campaign to pressure the Newseum picked up over the weekend with both the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee chiming in.

First the ADL:

ADL said the inclusion of Hussam Salama and Mahmoud Al-Kumi in the Newseum Journalists Memorial was “a dark day for an American institution devoted to free speech and the First Amendment.” Salama and Al-Kumi were members of Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. Department of State.

“It is a dark day when members of a terrorist organization advancing their agenda through murderous violence are honored as part of a tribute to journalists killed in the line of duty,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. “This decision flies in the face of the founding mission of Newseum to ‘educate the public about the value of a free press in a free society.’ Salama and Al-Kumi were terrorist operatives working for a network that routinely promotes anti-Semitism and incitement to violence. These men were working for a propaganda outlet, not a legitimate news organization.”

ADL urged the Newseum to reconsider the decision and remove the names of Al-Kumi and Salama from the roster of the Journalists Memorial before they are officially added to the permanent memorial scheduled to be unveiled on Monday.

The AJC:

“The Newseum board of directors should be ashamed of themselves for saluting two individuals who were integral to the propaganda machine of the Hamas terrorist organization,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris. “We are astonished that the Newseum did not reconsider its stance after initial concerns were raised. What are they thinking, seeking to conflate authentic journalists and operatives for a murderous group banned by the U.S. and European Union?”

The U.S. government has designated both Hamas and its Al-Aqsa television station terrorist organizations. Al-Aqsa regularly disseminates vile hatred of Israel and unadulterated anti-Semitism, glorifies terrorism, and promotes “martyrdom.”

“If Newseum is true to its mission of ‘educating the public about the value of a free press in a free society,’ then it should acknowledge there is an awful lot of work to be done in Hamas-ruled Gaza before Al-Aqsa can be considered a legitimate media operation,” Harris added. “Meanwhile, if Newseum opts to go forward with honoring Salama and al-Kumi, it will bring shame on itself for a shocking inability — or unwillingness — to distinguish between heroic journalists and brazen terrorists.”

The Newseum initially stood behind its decision to include al-Kumi and Salama (see their statement here), but this morning announced that the Palestinian cameramen will not be included in today’s ceremony.

Here’s the announcement from the Newseum:

JOURNALIST MEMORIAL UPDATE
Serious questions have been raised as to whether two of the individuals included on our initial list of journalists who died covering the news this past year were truly journalists or whether they were engaged in terrorist activities.

We take the concerns raised about these two men seriously and have decided to re-evaluate their inclusion as journalists on our memorial wall pending further investigation.

Terrorism has altered the landscape in many areas, including the rules of war and engagement, law, investigative and interrogation techniques, and the detention of enemy combatants. Journalism is no exception.

To further our First Amendment mission to provide a forum where all may speak freely, the Newseum will establish a new initiative to explore differing views on the new questions facing journalism and journalists.

Ex-AIPAC spokesperson Josh Block was the person to break the news:

The Israeli Embassy in Washington, which had joined the pressure campaign over Twitter, released the following statement:

The Embassy of Israel appreciates the Newseum’s decision to reconsider the inclusion of members of Hamas, a terrorist organization, on its list of journalists who lost their lives covering the news. The decision taken by the Newseum reflects a core journalistic value that it works to honor: the pursuit of understanding the full story.

62 Responses

  1. Nevada Ned
    May 13, 2013, 11:23 am

    Abe Foxman says

    ” These men were working for a propaganda outlet, not a legitimate news organization.”

    Foxman is head of the ADL, which is an Israeli propaganda outlet, not a legitimate civil rights organization. The ADL spends most of its time defaming anyone who dares to criticizes Israel. The ADL ought to change its name to the PDL: “Pro Defamation League”.

    Both Foxman (ADL) and David Harris (AJC) throw around the accusation of terrorism. ADL and AJC are strong supporters of Israel, and who is Israel’s most honored senior stateman? Menachem Begin, notorious Israeli terrorist whose bloody career stretches from Deir Yassin (1948) to Sabra and Chatila (1982). For documentation on the Sabra/Chatila massacre, see Noam Chomsky, The Fateful Triangle. The Sabra/Chatila massacre was condemned by the UN General Assembly (where the US has no veto), as “an act of genocide”.

    • Krauss
      May 13, 2013, 1:01 pm

      You’re correct, of course. It was a long time since the ADL was relevant.

    • john_manyjars
      May 13, 2013, 1:45 pm

      Good call, the ‘Pro’-defamation league, indeed. What a different organization it is from what I was brought up to think.

      Wasn’t Begin the dear fellow that said Palestinians are ‘beasts walking on two legs’?

      Always easier to commit murder when you de-humanize your victims. ‘Statesman’, indeed. Well, as we’ve found out vis a vis Reagan/Rios Montt this week, he’s in fine company.

    • Kathleen
      May 13, 2013, 12:16 pm

      thanks Henry. Pathetic and telling decision by the Newseum.

    • American
      May 13, 2013, 1:33 pm

      So did I….not that it makes a damn —but we should take every opportunty to attack this kind of cowardice and captulation to special and foreign interest—-just so they know that some people know what they are.

      Re:
      ‘Newseum’ folds under pressure, will not include Gaza cameramen in program honoring fallen journalists

      Pathetic.
      And you wonder why millions of Americans have nothing but utter contempt for the US press and ms media today and have deserted it in droves for the net and sources not tied to special and foreign interest .
      The US press and msm has been more responsible than any other sector in the US for America’s rejection of all internatonal law and it’s abdication of its interest to a foreign country by lying to and hiding the facts on USA-Isr from the US public.
      And when history writes up this treasonous Orwellian aberration in America that is how you will be described.’

    • RoHa
      May 13, 2013, 10:37 pm

      I just sent this:

      Sir,
      The decision to exclude al-Kumi and Salama is disgusting. The Newseum directors have simply caved in to Israeli pressure.
      If they do not have the moral courage to stand up for al-Kumi and Salama, then their “honouring fallen journalists” is worthless.
      What value is there in being “honoured” by the gutless?

  2. frankier
    May 13, 2013, 11:30 am

    Quelle surprise…
    I wonder who are the donors of the newseum…

    • American
      May 13, 2013, 12:57 pm

      frankier says:
      May 13, 2013 at 11:30 am

      Quelle surprise…
      I wonder who are the donors of the newseum…””

      Check out the officers, trustees, donors and their Freedom Foundation here:

      link to newseum.org

      Same old, same old….Newseum is a corporate media run, same old msm and pro Israeli figures and donors .
      The fact that they have a ‘freedom foundation” that issues political ‘opinions’ tells you what the Newseum is.
      It’s as big a joke as the media and press itself is.

  3. seafoid
    May 13, 2013, 11:40 am

    “Terrorism has altered the landscape in many areas, including the rules of war and engagement, law, investigative and interrogation techniques, and the detention of enemy combatants. Journalism is no exception.”

    That is what more or less what the Germans decided in 1941 regarding the Eastern Front .
    Shame on Zionism. Shame on Newseum.

    BTW the rules of war are unchanged.

    “ADL said the inclusion of Hussam Salama and Mahmoud Al-Kumi in the Newseum Journalists Memorial was “a dark day for an American institution devoted to free speech and the First Amendment.”

    The ADL is a disgrace. Defaming Palestinians at every opportunity.

    I guess we’ll have an ADL press release denouncing this shortly :

    “He shows that we Palestinians are humans who have a deep and beautiful culture,” said Majida Abu Almeaza, 45, a mother of five from Gaza City.”

    Read more: link to thenational.ae

    Ms Abu Almeaza is clearly psychotic and should be shot on sight by the IDF.

    • lysias
      May 13, 2013, 6:45 pm

      “Terrorism has altered the landscape in many areas, including the rules of war and engagement, law, investigative and interrogation techniques, and the detention of enemy combatants. Journalism is no exception.”

      You’re right, Seafoid. That’s just the sort of statement that I would expect to see in the prestige Nazi press. In Goebbels’s weekly Das Reich, for example. Or in the Frankfurter Zeitung after it was gleichgeschaltet.

      • seafoid
        May 14, 2013, 3:29 am

        “Terrorism has altered the landscape in many areas, including the rules of war and engagement, law, investigative and interrogation techniques, and the detention of enemy combatants. Journalism is no exception.”

        Foxman probably personally dictated that to Newseum. It goes beyond appalling. Appalling diggity.

  4. Blownaway
    May 13, 2013, 11:41 am

    Hopefully the other journalists will boycott this event

  5. Yasmeen
    May 13, 2013, 11:43 am

    It’s amazing the lengths these groups will go through to smear Palestinians. These two journalists deserved this recognition.

  6. DavidK
    May 13, 2013, 11:52 am

    I mean really. When is someone going to grow a spine and stand up to these people. Scottish church, Presbyterians, Methodists etc… What’s the worst that could happen beyond alot of screeching and screaming. It’s all very depressing.

  7. akayani
    May 13, 2013, 11:54 am

    What is to be said beyond, “to be expected”.

  8. seafoid
    May 13, 2013, 12:01 pm

    “The Embassy of Israel appreciates the Newseum’s decision ”

    B*tchslapping Muslims and Palestinians who dare ask for their rights or even just equal treatment seems to be a huge part of the workload of the typical Israeli embassy.
    WTF.

    Take Hagel’s DC hearing and the bot input, add media minister Limor Livni exhorting Israeli journalists to self censor, throw in the ADL abusing the meaning of the first amendment and the picture is really ugly. This is what it takes to keep Israel working.

  9. Les
    May 13, 2013, 12:08 pm

    The most important Jewish institution in the US by far is our print and broadcast media, as owners and managers. While Jews are divided about supporting Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, our media is 100% supportive of Israel, no matter who’s in charge. Will someone please explain this unanimity of opinion.

  10. seafoid
    May 13, 2013, 12:12 pm

    Media Contact:
    Jonathan Thompson, manager of media relations
    202/292-6353
    [email protected]

    Write to him and tell him what you think

    Eg

    Who decides who is a terrorist?
    Sunday times journalist Marie Colvin was killed in Syria. If the Assads decide she was a terrorist will the Newseum refuse to honor her?

    • Yasmeen
      May 13, 2013, 1:55 pm

      I’m trying to devout as much time as I can to this cause. I let newseum know what I think of their decision to cave under pressure. By the way thank you for the link.

    • ToivoS
      May 13, 2013, 3:23 pm

      Here’s my letter to newseum:

      Dear Mr Thompson

      Many of us are saddened at your decision to not honor the two Palestinian reporters killed by the Israelis in Gaza last year. I guess the reason you did so was influenced by the reasoning of Abe Foxman who complained that “These men were working for a propaganda outlet, not a legitimate news organization.”.

      I think you are going to get on a very slippery slope if you are now going to try to distinguish between propaganda outlets and legitimate news organizations. Would you refuse to honor a Fox News reporter who was killed by a government agency while collecting information? What about the Jerusalem Post? Pravda?

      Your act here is very disappointing. I hope you apply the same standards next time an Israeli reporter is recommended for inclusion on your list.

    • W.Jones
      May 13, 2013, 5:14 pm

      In the Bible, the people look at the snake lifted up on a stick and it heals them: this is an uplifting poetic image of putting an end to sin.

      I have no idea why in modern times they copied this image ($) and put it on their money. People metaphorically bow to money, and it is tragically having the opposite effect that it did in the Bible, because it is not leading people to have compassion for the many people who have been struck down. None of this makes sense to me.

      • W.Jones
        May 13, 2013, 5:22 pm

        THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS REPORTS:
        In a report issued on December 20, Human Rights Watch said it found no evidence to show that Salama and al-Kumi had been Hamas operatives or had engaged in any military activity. The group said the killings of the two cameramen and the attacks on the Gaza media centers were violations of the laws of war.

  11. irmep
    May 13, 2013, 12:18 pm

    The Greenspun’s gave $7 million in 2006.

    link to newseum.org

    The Newseum was able to look beyond Hank’s felony and terror ties.

    link to irmep.org

    Wonder what would have happened if the Pal journalists had coughed up $14 million before their demise?

    • Kathleen
      May 13, 2013, 12:51 pm

      So Kennedy pardoned Greenspun. Going to read all later. Thanks for all of your incredible work Grant. Just let some other folks in D.C. know about Newseum folding.

  12. NoMoreIsrael
    May 13, 2013, 12:20 pm

    Just sent the following:

    I will not be visiting your museum, given your recent capitulation to the Israeli apartheid scum and their efforts to obscure the horrors they are imposing on the Palestinian people. Your utter lack of courage and contempt for journalism is appalling.

    • seafoid
      May 13, 2013, 12:52 pm

      This goes way beyond Zionism. It’s about protection for journalists who serve their readers/viewers and it is core to the notion of press freedom. There is going to be a huge blowup from this capitulation. If journalists are not safe because unelected arseholes like Foxman or tyrants like Saddam decide they are terrorists then our media model won’t work.

      link to cpj.org

      Any thug outfit, whether it be the Zionists or the Sinaloa cartel or some central american death squad can justify the murder of journalists by using a simple word. That is the gateway to nihilism.

      I would expect journalists from orgs like Ma’ariv and Ha’aretz and the Israeli TV channels to make noise about this because it ultimately will affect them too.

      • chocopie
        May 14, 2013, 8:31 am

        If this decision stands it’s a message to Israel that they’re free to snuff out Palestinian journalists whenever they please. Nobody’s keeping track.

    • TonyRiley
      May 14, 2013, 12:52 pm

      No, More Israel!

  13. Kathleen
    May 13, 2013, 12:38 pm

    Was linking this to one of the debates going on about the Nablus sister city proposal in Boulder for someone who said Carter had said that Israel does not practice apartheid
    Jimmy Carter: Israel’s Apartheid
    Great clip with David Shuster (where did he go?)

  14. Qualtrough
    May 13, 2013, 12:48 pm

    Shocking decision, what kind of journalists would attend such a program? I just wrote them, thanks for the address Seafroid.

  15. amigo
    May 13, 2013, 12:58 pm

    I thought that ADL meant anti defamation league.

    Why does foxman not keep his nose out of areas he is not charged with under the ADL Charter.

  16. DICKERSON3870
    May 13, 2013, 1:27 pm

    RE: “Salama and Al-Kumi . . . were working for a propaganda outlet, not a legitimate news organization.” ~ ADL

    MY COMMENT: According to that standard, “journalists” working for the mainstream/corporate media here in the US would also be disqualified, because our mainstream/corporate media are clearly propaganda outlets rather than legitimate news organizations!

  17. LanceThruster
    May 13, 2013, 2:02 pm

    From this report it would appear there is at least an entire wing of the newseum devoted strictly to gatekeeping (though obviously unacknowledged).

  18. Yasmeen
    May 13, 2013, 2:15 pm

    Ah yes the ADL, it’s more like the JDL minus the terrorism.

  19. seafoid
    May 13, 2013, 2:27 pm

    “Terrorism has altered the landscape in many areas, including the rules of war and engagement, law, investigative and interrogation techniques, and the detention of enemy combatants. Journalism is no exception”

    It’s funny they don’t say that when the Shalits and the Arads go missing. No, it’s all about Red Cross visits and international law then.

    The bots will tear down every protection that was brought in post ww2 to protect minorities such as Jews. They do not know what they are doing.

    What Judaism is going through is heartbreaking .

    • TonyRiley
      May 14, 2013, 12:54 pm

      Hamas didn’t allow any Red Cross visits to Shalit, They also tortured him. Nobody ever visited Ron Arad either, apart from his torturers.

      • seafoid
        May 15, 2013, 3:47 am

        Zionism is nihilism.
        Very bad for Jews.

  20. justicewillprevail
    May 13, 2013, 2:55 pm

    So the bigots, censors and fanatics, who do not represent US citizens in any way, force their small-minded prejudice and racism on to an institution which is now compromised and humiliated. Their craven decision is not just a blow to their own institution, which can hardly be said to be independent or democratic any more, but it encourages these censoring zealots to repeat the trick on other organisations, and encourages them to think that shouting and screaming loudly will maintain the censorship they seek to apply. The Newseum has now lost credibility – how can an organisation which laughably claims to honour journalists crumble so easily in the face of invective and lies, and kowtow to people who represent a country which jails journalists, attacks them and routinely censors news? Standing up for freedom of thought, journalists under attack, and the independence of its own decision-making is apparently not on the Newseum’s agenda. They might as well pack up, since they clearly understand nothing about the principles of journalism.

  21. ToivoS
    May 13, 2013, 3:10 pm

    Foxman: These men were working for a propaganda outlet, not a legitimate news organization.

    Well that is going to disqualify any reporter from the Jerusalem Post, Channel 1 (?) and any number of other Israeli media outlets next time one gets offed as collateral damage or deliberate assassination. Stay tuned we now have a new political arena to open this debate.

  22. Justpassingby
    May 13, 2013, 3:18 pm

    Sad but not surprising, still we will hear that there is no jewish/israeli lobby in the United States.
    If this were about honoring kids that have been killed in wars, palestinians children would be excluded, since they would be called “terrorists” and stupid organizations like Newseum would buy the claim.
    Disgusting.

  23. Henry Norr
    May 13, 2013, 4:06 pm

    The Atlantic Wire has a somewhat interesting piece by J.K. Trotter called “Why the Newseum Changed Its Mind About Honoring These Dead Cameramen.” A choice tidbit:

    The case against Salama and al-Kumi [the Gazan journalists who were to be honored] has so far focused on a weekly children’s show called Tomorrow’s Pioneers, which is broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV [the network whose news department they worked for]. The show is virulently anti-Semitic, regularly encouraging its target audience — young children — to commit violence against Jewish people. In one episode highlighted by Philip Klein at The Washington Examiner, a human-sized rabbit named Assoud promises to exterminate Jews by literally eating them.

  24. Yasmeen
    May 13, 2013, 4:40 pm

    I came across a doc about Foxman called defamation. It gives you a good look at what they’re really up to. How little actual antisemetism exists and most of it is criticism of zionism. How Israel has been instilling hatred,fear,and paranoia to the youth through the halocaust industry. It’s almost as if they’re training them to hate outsiders so its less likely for political reform.

    • Sumud
      May 14, 2013, 3:48 am

      How Israel has been instilling hatred,fear,and paranoia to the youth through the holocaust industry. It’s almost as if they’re training them to hate outsiders so its less likely for political reform.

      Bingo Yasmeen, that is exactly what they’ve been doing: Israelis are as much victims of hasbara as anybody else.

      If you want to punish yourself check out the same filmmaker’s older documentary called “Checkpoint”, it’s all footage in the field taken at Israeli checkpoints in occupied Palestine. You will be screaming in frustration at the incredible injustice of it all.

    • TonyRiley
      May 14, 2013, 12:58 pm

      Try reading a bit more on the Internet. Start with some of the responses on this page. Not one person here calls out Hamas as terrorists. operating Sharia Law, repressing women and Christians, and torturing any journalist or blogger in Gaza who disagrees with it. Time to wake up.

      • Yasmeen
        May 15, 2013, 1:38 am

        operating Sharia Law, repressing women and Christians,

        This part of your comment discredits your knowledge of sharia law. Typical fox noise distortions.

  25. Shingo
    May 13, 2013, 4:50 pm

    I wonder if the exhibit will include British Journalist, James Miller

    link to en.m.wikipedia.org

  26. Henry Norr
    May 13, 2013, 6:02 pm

    Another place to give the Newseum a piece of your mind is their Facebook page:
    link to facebook.com

  27. just
    May 13, 2013, 6:05 pm

    Oh, ‘bizness as usual’.

    Thank goodness for Mondoweiss & their excellent reporting.

    (Thanks to Professor Hawking, as well!)

  28. umain30
    May 13, 2013, 9:13 pm

    They are really brave but didn’t last on the face of Israeli terror and lost their lives

  29. Sherri Munnerlyn
    May 13, 2013, 11:01 pm

    Maybe, it is the time to boycott Newseum. Supporting war criminal regimes needs to have consequences. To think, Gaza journalists die reporting the news, victims of war crimes which the US protects the nation from being prosecuted for, and the murdered journalists are called terrorists. What a travesty of justice!

  30. Yasmeen
    May 14, 2013, 12:47 am

    The newseums terrace is named after a journalist who was a member of the infamous Irgun gang. Who is also a convicted felon. I guess its no surprise.

  31. thankgodimatheist
    May 14, 2013, 4:53 am

    The idea that any journalist from Gaza or working in Gaza is automatically affiliated to Hamas is grotesque to say the least. Not all Gazans are Hamas members and if you consider the case of the Gazan journalist Mohammed Omar (whose became well known after he’s been subjected to torture/beatings at the hands of Israel) is not affiliated to Hamas or any other militant group in any shape or form.

    • Sumud
      May 14, 2013, 6:00 am

      The idea that any journalist from Gaza or working in Gaza is automatically affiliated to Hamas is grotesque to say the least.

      Yes, but these journalists did have a connection to Hamas – Al Aqsa TV is Hamas owned.

      More to the point Hamas is the *government* in Gaza and has a huge number of employees, only a small number of them are militants.

      Israel and the US have done a splendid job of obscuring what Hamas (and Hezbollah) actually are, militant organisations that have also become political organisations. Surprisingly (since our PM is a total Israel fangirl) the Australian Government has designated the Al Qassam Brigade – the militant wing of Hamas – as a terrorist organisation, but Hamas itself is not.

      ‘Newseum’ are evidently too dumb or too gutless to understand this distinction. Too much mediocre and dishonest journalism will do that…

      • gamal
        May 14, 2013, 8:22 am

        “only a small number of them are militants.” you dont see any problem with framing things in this way, what is “militantcy” supposed to account for?

        who gets to designate someone a militant, or does one apply, like subhuman its not a designation i assume anyone applies to themselves, in the sense that you use it here

        what policies towards them are justified by some persons or peoples perceived “militancy”

        It would seem in the current world it is a kind of death sentence, for Muslims, sometimes and being designated militant for Palestinians always seems to result in a loss of support for their inalienable rights, a militant Hamas journalist would surely enjoy the same protections as non-militant one, how does one know when one has drifted along into militancy?

        are you not conflating militant with terrorist, which i believe is how the journalists were characterized in the above piece, are militant and terrorist synonymous?

        what do you mean Hamas and Hezbollah are militant organizations, that have become political organizations, so they started with miltantcy and then found politics?

        Al-Qassam are a military rather than militant formation, are they not, is a militant an Arab with a weapon?

        I have to say Americans finding Hamas murderous is very funny, or “terrorists” reprehensible, Chris Hedges has just written “Murder is our National Sport” and Karen English “Gaza: A Lie Agreed Upon”,

        anyway plenty of us militant so what? wont look good in front of Dick and Jane? again so what? those “militants” are our bretheren and we dont want anybody doing anything to them, like all the savages of western bestiaries they as Human as any one else and have as much right to be themselves as did those savages, who probably didnt self describe themselves by their western designation either, it all smacks of deserving and undeserving poor type discourses,

        why are western supposedly liberal and progressive discourses so prone to creating categories of rightless beings, savages, militants, primitives, even though some terms become obsolete there is always at least one active one at any one time, the global south is full of war and violence because of the fanaticism of its denizens, astonishingly all this coincides with a western rampage to secure resources and terms of
        trade, one can only hope it all works out. In the case of Palestine however the savage injustice of the white world is stark. Is Obama a militant or Clinton?

      • Sumud
        May 15, 2013, 3:52 am

        gamal ~ you are making a lot of incorrect assumptions about my use of the word militant. I understand the way the term is interchangeably used [and abused] with ‘terrorist’ but there is zero value or moral judgement on my part when I use the word militant.

        who gets to designate someone a militant, or does one apply, like subhuman its not a designation i assume anyone applies to themselves, in the sense that you use it here

        As I said there is zero value judgement applied when I used the word militant. I would say it is a person bearing arms with political intent. The IDF is a militant organisation, but also an army. I don’t think it is appropriate to designate Al Qassam Brigade as an army since they are enduring a military occupation.

        what policies towards them are justified by some persons or peoples perceived “militancy”

        That would depend on what they did with their militancy.

        If they attack citizens (such as the suicide bombing campaigns of the 2nd intifada, now thankfully a thing of the past) they are terrorists, and I do not use that nonsense disclaimer that terrorism can only be performed by non-state actors. So the IDF practices terrorism on a far larger scale than Hamas ever have, and US army terrorism is off the scale.

        If they do not attack citizens they are just garden variety militants and I assert the right of Palestinians to resist their oppressors militarily. I don’t believe it is the best option strategically but their right to resist militarily is indisputable. As for rockets from Gaza, if they are aimed at a military installation I have no problem with that. But I am oppose to targeting civilians whether they be Palestinian, Israeli, or other.

        It would seem in the current world it is a kind of death sentence, for Muslims, sometimes and being designated militant for Palestinians always seems to result in a loss of support for their inalienable rights…

        This is not my opinion. It is an inalienable Palestinian right to resist their oppression militarily.

        …a militant Hamas journalist would surely enjoy the same protections as non-militant one, how does one know when one has drifted along into militancy?

        A journalist doesn’t bear arms.

        So if the person bears arms they are a militant, not a journalist. But the gentlemen that were killed were from Al Aqsa TV not Al Qassam Brigade. And no-one has been able to produce any evidence they were militants, see Joe Catron’s follow up article; a number on journalist organisations have been asking the IDF to produce evidence here, and they have not:

        The Newseum’s ‘further investigation’ must be public, credible, and thorough – and what we should do if it isn’t

        are you not conflating militant with terrorist, which i believe is how the journalists were characterized in the above piece, are militant and terrorist synonymous?

        No, see above. But, on this topic, lots of people do use the term interchangeably, often to deceive and deny Palestinians their rights. The Israeli/US demand that Hamas renounce violence altogether is unacceptable.

        what do you mean Hamas and Hezbollah are militant organizations, that have become political organizations, so they started with miltantcy and then found politics?

        That is the trajectory for both isn’t it? I “found politics” is wrong, they were always political, but the emphasis has shift from armed resistance to political and social organisation and action.

        Al-Qassam are a military rather than militant formation, are they not, is a militant an Arab with a weapon?

        Both I suppose, a military and a militant organisation. I already said until they have sovereignty over territory, I think it is wrong to call them an army.

        I have to say Americans finding Hamas murderous is very funny, or “terrorists” reprehensible, Chris Hedges…

        Agreed, but I didn’t say that, and I’m Australian :-)

        Since it is a long time since Hamas renounced suicide bombings I disagree with the Australian Government’s designation of the Al Qassam Brigade as terrorists. I can’t get worked up over a few bottle rockets; the effects are negligible, about 20-25 deaths in more than a decade. By comparison about 4,000 Israelis died in motor accidents over the same timeframe, during which time more than 6,000 Palestinian killed by the IDF.

        Chris Hedges I love. Eloquent, fierce:

        America: The Silence of a Nation.

        I largely agree with the rest of what you’ve said so won’t respond specifically.

        As for Clinton, I think he is responsible for one of the worst human atrocities in the history of mankind, the US-led sanctions regime that killed more than 500,000 Iraqi children in the mid-1990s:

        Madeleine Albright – 60 Minutes

        When I said US terrorism is off the scale, this is but one of many acts I have in mind. Polite language cannot capture my opinion of Clinton, and Obama is little better than Clinton and Bush. Gives good speeches though.

        As much as I love my American friends and wish them no harm, the sooner the US is bankrupt the better. It is time for a second American Revolution – the country has been hijacked by smiling hyenas lining their pockets.

      • gamal
        May 15, 2013, 4:53 am

        yeah cool i am in Oz for the time being, its very strange place, Australians are tremendously foreign to me, i have real difficulty understanding them, the local Arabs where i am staying are Hyper-Ozzie. I do get what you are saying but are US soldiers American Militants, or Ozzie ones of whom i have some experience because of my extra-curicula activities.

        i am suspicious of whole frame where by those who the powers end up fighting are always militants or extremists, rather than just soldiers and defenders of their communities, have been following the shameful revelations now being revealed about the Mau-Mau emergency, since there is little or no opportunity for peace i dont think Arabs who fight are necessarily militants or even angry usually as in the case of Palestine they have pretty much no other option.

        Are the IDF Israeli militants or is it only Arabs who are driven by some ideology, which gives rise to their unnecessarily violent responses, like Syria those who the west target are in a pretty tough spot, societies have to maintain themselves somehow, sometimes its not all that pretty but then no one is asking you out, so how we look is not a material question for us, in Egypt, where 99% of my family live the shebab are protecting their neighborhoods and are pretty aggressive with strangers wandering around, not militant just reacting to the material conditions that pertain in their environment.

    • thankgodimatheist
      May 14, 2013, 6:33 am

      “whose became well known”
      Who became..

  32. HarryLaw
    May 14, 2013, 5:59 am

    This article by Phillip Hammond in Broadcast weekly magazine [Britain May 14 1999] indicates how the West treats journalists it does not like, will those Journalists be honoured by Newseum? “In its war against Yugoslavia, Nato has tried to silence all debate, criticism and dissent. The most grotesque instance of this was the bombing of the Serbian television building, killing an estimated 10 civilians and injuring dozens more. Prime Minister Tony Blair described this as ‘entirely justified’. The attack was allegedly carried out in the name of Truth, since the station produces propaganda. The image-conscious Blair explained that television is part of the ‘apparatus’ which keeps a political leader in power, so camera operators, make-up ladies and janitors are therefore legitimate targets”.

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