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  1. jenin
    July 10, 2014, 1:41 pm

    I wish everyone who comments on the NY Times and other sites claiming that Israelis are superior because they, unlike Palestinians, aren’t racist and don’t celebrate the deaths of Palestinians would be forced to look at this. Disgusting. and weird the girls post sexy photos of themselves along with the abhorrent statements.

    • Sumud
      July 10, 2014, 2:00 pm

      Weird if you aren’t a brainwashed freak, but guaranteed this sad lot see no such anomaly: they think what they’re saying is also appealing and attractive.

      • bintbiba
        July 10, 2014, 2:05 pm

        Such class, those kids have!
        I commend their mothers…

      • Mooser
        July 10, 2014, 4:46 pm

        “I commend their mothers…”

        Oh, between the pictures and the tweets, they should catch themselves quite a fella.

      • Shingo
        July 10, 2014, 5:07 pm

        Very true Mooser.

        As soon as they’re old enough to enter the clubs, they’re sure to be found having anonymous sex in those cubicles.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 2:06 pm

        that is indeed a good point. I am so disheartened by everything right now–the comments I see in the New York Times about Gaza (90% about Palestinians deserving this), this sort of racism while at the same time Israel’s supporters accuse the Palestinians of racism and supporting deaths of innocents while claiming they of course would never do this…the injustice of it all is so brutal and seems never ending.

      • Sumud
        July 10, 2014, 3:52 pm

        Hello jenin – events like these can be very disheartening, I know, but it will end.

        It took 30+ years of campaigning to end South African apartheid after the Sharpeville Massacre in the early 60s. BDS is doing pretty well considering it only started 9 years ago. Outside the US, Israel is now held in contempt by most nations and people in the world, and their image in the US is on the slide too. I was young when SA apartheid ended, but as I understand it apartheid in SA seemed invincible right up until the very end. And then it collapsed, just like that. So don’t be discouraged, and don’t feel as if progress isn’t being made: we will be victorious!!!

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 4:06 pm

        Sumud–thanks. I do hope you’re right. It just seems like such an uphill battle, and the vile racism and justifications from the other side just seem to be getting more numerous and more awful. Maybe I should take it as a sign they are desperate rather than feeling so much despair.

      • Sumud
        July 10, 2014, 5:36 pm

        @Shingo

        As soon as they’re old enough to enter the clubs, they’re sure to be found having anonymous sex in those cubicles.

        Hey don’t knock it, it may just be the first step towards redemption (and a US green card) for some.

        A year or so into their military service some of the smarter girls will begin to realise what a shithole Israel is and that they have to get out, stat! Thanks to Ari Shavit hordes of eligible young jewish American bachelors will go to Israel in search of some nightclub loo sex. Boy meets girl – you get the idea…

      • MRW
        July 11, 2014, 10:47 am

        “Outside the US, Israel is now held in contempt by most nations and people in the world, and their image in the US is on the slide too.”

        Americans globally are being held in contempt for backing Israel as well. I’m hearing that our neighbors to the north are experiencing disgust with both countries, and wondering why Harper is going along with it.

      • Mooser
        July 10, 2014, 5:42 pm

        “As soon as they’re old enough to enter the clubs, they’re sure to be found having anonymous sex in those cubicles.”

        C’mon, Shingo, we know there are certain things certain people just don’t do! Why, what you are suggesting is as absurd as, gosh, as absurd as the IDF killing civilians!
        As Smud says, It’s as absurd as anybody wanting to leave Israel!

    • Kay24
      July 10, 2014, 2:11 pm

      Bookmark this, and link it whenever you see those naive comments.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 3:10 pm

        thanks Kaye. Will do.

    • tree
      July 10, 2014, 2:20 pm

      The photos are their profile photos and go along with every tweet they send. That’s the way twitter works. The pictures aren’t that large in the individual tweets. See here for instance:

      link to twitter.com

      On a feminist note its also rather sad that they feel they need to post “sexy pictures” of themselves on twitter in the first place. And of course racism isn’t sexy, unless you are another racist. But maybe that’s the point. They’re looking for “Mr. Racist”.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 2:22 pm

        I don’t actually use twitter for some reason so it just occurred to me that maybe the pics were not for this specific tweet but their general profile picture. But nevertheless, the fact they choose to accompany these photos with these vile racist comments is bizarre in addition to abhorrent and depressing

      • Annie Robbins
        July 10, 2014, 8:34 pm

        it just occurred to me that maybe the pics were not for this specific tweet but their general profile picture.

        sheen wrote in the 2nd paragraph:

        I began to tweet out translations into English of their words, including their Twitter profile pictures and links to their original tweets.

      • MRW
        July 11, 2014, 10:48 am

        All Kardashian wannabees.

    • Chu
      July 10, 2014, 2:55 pm

      This is a digital format for Israeli youth to say their own special ‘death chant’ without having to go outside and goose-step for the nation – a more subtle Leibermanesque loyalty oath.

    • FreddyV
      July 10, 2014, 3:40 pm

      @Jenin:

      Most of those girls have dark hair and green eyes, much like the Arabs of the region. I’m guessing they’re not Ashkenazi……..

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 3:45 pm

        I’m using the term “racism” loosely. I am never exactly sure how to define prejudice against Palestinians by Jews, Mizrahi or Ashkenazi

      • Annie Robbins
        July 10, 2014, 8:36 pm

        call it anti semitism.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 12:03 am

        Don’t call it antisemitism unless you want to be inaccurate. Antisemitism is a German term invented by Wilhelm Marr. It has nothing to do with Arabs. Anti-Arab would be appropriate.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 12:06 am

        So you went on twitter and found a few racist girls. Good for you, David. I mean, in the twitter world, one expects to find civil, genteel writers who are in the mainstream of their societies. You must have put a lot of work into it. I mean, Arabs understand that, right? They never tweet anything unkind about Jews or Israelis. It’s never happened, and that’s why you had such trouble finding it, right David? And if it did happen, it is, of course, only an isolated incident and not at all reflective of anything or anybody, because if someone were to say it was, you’d accuse them immediately of extreme Islamophobe.

        I’m so happy that you’ve found something to occupy your time, David.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 1:05 am

        Antisemitism is a German term invented by Wilhelm Marr. It has nothing to do with Arabs.

        Actually it had quite a lot to do with Arabs. Marr used the term to refer to Jews as Semites, of Middle Eastern origin like Arabs, and therefore part of an “inferior” race. A race that included Arabs. He was disparaging Arabs just as much as Jews when he invented the term “anti-semitic”.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 11, 2014, 2:53 am

        Don’t call it antisemitism unless you want to be inaccurate.

        you don’t like using the word as interchangeable with racism do you hops? but it’s the exact same concept isn’t it. and it’s irrelevant who ‘coined’ the phrase, at least to me. you think you can book it for your tribe and exclude all other semites? actually, my usage is quite accurate, it’s just against your rules. the entire rest of humanity gets along quite well sharing a common word for bigotry and racism. i don’t believe it’s really necessary for anyone to have an exclusive term.

        lets compromise and call these girls, as individuals, antis-semites. easy enough.

      • Daniel Rich
        July 11, 2014, 5:29 pm

        @ Annie Robbins,

        Q; call it anti semitism.

        R: What is the appropriate way to react when you see someone score a bull’s eye?

    • Shingo
      July 10, 2014, 6:00 pm

      Yes, it’s the macabre union of sex, racism, and genicide.

      • bilal a
        July 10, 2014, 8:10 pm

        eg Marty peretz the Ernst Roehm of Zionism.

      • Elliot
        July 11, 2014, 12:19 am

        @hophmi,
        Where is the outcry in Israel against this kind of talk? This kind of racism is accepted in Israel.
        Netanyahu made the claim that Jews are better than Arabs because, unlike Arabs, Jews don’t gloat over the death of their enemies.
        Without David’s expose we might have missed that Netanyahu is a lying racist.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 12:49 am

        But hophmi’s made the same claim on this account.

        Here: Jewish vigilantism is unfortunate, and virtually the entire Jewish world in the US and in Israel opposes this kind of thing.

        link to mondoweiss.net

        “Virtually the entire Jewish world”, except for a few Israeli girls on twitter, and a few thousand Jewish protesters shouting “Death to Arabs”, and the 45% of Jewish Israeli religious school students and the 16% of Jewish secular school students who think chanting “Death to Arabs” is totally kosher, and several prominent rabbis and politicians in Israel and Netanyahu himself, and obviously a large segment of Jewish Israeli society. “Virtually the entire… “I don’t think the word entire means what hophmi thinks it means.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 12:59 am

        Also note that hophmi doesn’t refer to the the death chants as genocidal utterings. No, its “Jewish vigilantism” to hophmi, even though vigilantism refers to taking the law into your own hands to punish those you consider guilty of a crime. “Vigilantism” is a euphemism he used for something far worse. Vigilantism isn’t what the death of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was, nor is it what the Jewish crowds were shouting for. They were making genocidal chants against all Arabs, and the murderers were exacting an ethnic revenge murder on an innocent boy.

      • Antidote
        July 12, 2014, 11:36 am

        “Antisemitism is a German term invented by Wilhelm Marr. It has nothing to do with Arabs.

        Actually it had quite a lot to do with Arabs. Marr used the term to refer to Jews as Semites, of Middle Eastern origin like Arabs, and therefore part of an “inferior” race. A race that included Arabs. He was disparaging Arabs just as much as Jews when he invented the term “anti-semitic”.”

        hophmi IS correct here: Marr was talking about Jews, not Arabs when he coined the term anti-semitism. The Mufti suggested to Hitler that he should outlaw the term anti-semitism because it would be misunderstood by Arabs and cause resentment. Neither Marr nor Hitler considered Jews an “inferior race”. How can a small minority of “inferior people” dominate and ruin the majority? Wiki on Marr:

        “In his pamphlet Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum (The Way to Victory of Germanicism over Judaism, 1879) he introduced the idea that Germans and Jews were locked in a longstanding conflict, the origins of which he attributed to race—and that the Jews were winning. He argued that Jewish emancipation resulting from German liberalism had allowed the Jews to control German finance and industry. Furthermore, since this conflict was based on the different qualities of the Jewish and German races, it could not be resolved even by the total assimilation of the Jewish population. According to him, the struggle between Jews and Germans would only be resolved by the victory of one and the ultimate death of the other. A Jewish victory, he concluded, would result in finis Germaniae (the end of the German people). To prevent this from happening, in 1879 Marr founded the League of Antisemites (Antisemiten-Liga), the first German organization committed specifically to combating the alleged threat to Germany posed by the Jews and advocating their forced removal from the country.”

  2. Philip Weiss
    July 10, 2014, 1:55 pm

    Unbelievable. Thanks David.

    • Taxi
      July 10, 2014, 2:13 pm

      “Unbelievable”.

      You mean ‘unbearable’, surely, Phil. Some of us have known for a few depressing decades, the depth of the sickness of the children of holocaust survivors.

      And a sickness it is. These youngsters were not born this way, they were lovingly guided into nazism.

      The Germans were cured. That’s the good news.

      • Elisabeth
        July 11, 2014, 1:55 am

        Who says these are the children of Holocaust survivors?
        I am sick of this connecting what Israel does or is to the Holocaust. It is used far too often as excuse, and even when it isn’t, there is no real connection to what these kids do and the Holocaust. They do these things because they grew up in a racist society, not because of the Holocaust.
        And I don’t buy into that ” the Jews of all people should know better” stuff either.

      • Taxi
        July 11, 2014, 8:56 am

        “Who says these are the children of Holocaust survivors?”

        They do. And it is true.

        I understand you’re German and your sensitivity to the holocaust has been duly and respectfully noted. But the fact remains that zionist jews from Germany and other parts of europe brought with them to the middle east, the same kind of racism and sadism that they suffered from under nazi rule.

        “I am sick of this connecting what Israel does or is to the Holocaust”.

        Why, Elizabeth, why? What exactly is so offensive to you personally? Israeli jews continue to use the holocaust to justify their warmongering and war crimes against their neighbors. There is no denying the existence of the holocaust industry.

        Fact is, the holocaust and israel are symbiotically connected. I don’t understand why you would be in denial of this connection or “sick” to hear about it.

  3. DaBakr
    July 10, 2014, 2:06 pm

    as grim as the ‘tweets’ that author scoured this obviously adolescent dominated media it is even creepier that author uses the adolescent female ‘porn’ images to convey something supposedly even more shocking. Whats not shocking? Another male using the adolescent female in a sexualized context to highlight his own political views. Stop being a creepy perv and publishing kids photos w/o consent. There ‘tweets’ may be vile and nasty but not shocking and I’m sure the author could find comparable ‘tweets’ reflecting hatred towards Israelis from adolescents around the region. However-if author posted sexualized inages of Arab girls he would be risking not only his own life but also maybe the girls. In this instance-I find Sheens ‘expose’ as disgusting as the subject he’s trying to shed light upon.

    *if author is really so “scared” at the seriousness of these kids views-I would suggest he do what they do and attach a seductive photo of himself in every political tweet and see how serious his pov is taken.

    • jenin
      July 10, 2014, 2:20 pm

      uh–if those are the photos the “authors” posted, what was Sheen supposed to do about it? edit out the pictures for your sensibilities? And actually, I think it’s appropriate to post them because it shows how twisted the “authors” of these tweets are–that they think this is sexy and seductive.

      “Interesting” how you’ve tried to change the subject and attempt to make this into an unsupported point about what Palestinians supposedly say or would do were the roles reversed.

      • DaBakr
        July 10, 2014, 11:10 pm

        I didn’t cahnge the subject. just commented that sheen was a twisted in his own right by publishing sexualized images of adolescent underage females. Can you imagine if somebody here were to use sexual images of underage Arab girls. You people can never seem to see when there is hypocrisy under your noses but can smell Israeli hypocrisy from 1000s of miles in any direction. Than is my point. Also- anyone who wants to gage the state of affairs in a nation based on adolescent ‘tweets’ should also scour Arab media, Asian, EU and other regions and see what crazy sht adolescents post. Scour, scold, scour scold….that is the mantra here.

    • tarantulee
      July 10, 2014, 2:29 pm

      Oh give over, they’re selfies from children, thats what it’s all about. The pictures are to highlight how obvious and ordinary these children are, in contrast to their violent call for genocide against Arabs.

      Reminder that in the next 3-5 years these children will be wielding assault rifles and acting out these racist fantasies for real. Do you really think they will grow up by then? In Israel’s culture of confirmation bias?

      • Kay24
        July 10, 2014, 4:33 pm

        That is a typical hasbarracuda like response. When the hatefulness of words gets more attention, quickly deflect by bringing attention to the ugly pictures, so that the readers will forget the meanness, and lose attention to the ugly words. Old trick.

    • Sumud
      July 10, 2014, 2:34 pm

      Poor DaBakr, you feel aroused but aren’t quite sure if it’s the photos or the genocidal tweets.

      Let me tell you: it’s both.

      • Kay24
        July 10, 2014, 4:29 pm

        Lol. that was funny, but good point.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 4:34 pm

        I literally laughed out loud at my desk when I read Sumud’s comment

    • oldgeezer
      July 10, 2014, 2:36 pm

      The porn pictures are pictures that the kids put on their tweets. The author merely copied the tweets and didn’t ‘use’ anything. Used them in a sexualized context? Maybe if you are into necrophillia…. Are you?

      I do agree it’s highly likely you can find similar tweets from the other side which would be as vile. I don’t think anyone can reasonably doubt that although we haven’t see the evidence technically.

      But let’s just put to bed the silly notion that Israelis are somehow civilized, nonracist and don’t teach hate to their children. Most of us have known it was false all along.

      • Kay24
        July 10, 2014, 4:43 pm

        They can be vile all right. It was shocking to see such disgusting comments on Huffingtonpost, they make personal attacks, and hope you would be cursed with cancer, if you disprove what they say, disagree or speak against what Israel does. That vicious. The hatred for Muslims, Arabs and Palestinians, was something I have never seen before.
        I think that hatred manifests itself in the way illegal settlers and the IDF treat the Palestinians. Crimes are inhumane and vicious.

      • oldgeezer
        July 10, 2014, 7:10 pm

        Yeah I hear you.I read about 4 Israeli news sites and a couple of camera dot org sites. If only to make sure I consider or be aware of the other side. The racism is mind blowing. The calls for complete genocide are so frequent. The dehumanzing constant. It’s sad. And often maddening. But mostly sad. When I was a youngster in the 60’s I thought we were turning a huge corner.

      • Kay24
        July 10, 2014, 10:37 pm

        The irony of it all is, if someone from the other side called for the genocide of all Israelis, there would be whining, threats, and excuses to keep “defending” themselves. They can dish out in the most meanest ways, but simply cannot take it.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 10:46 pm

        Kaye, actually last time someone even approached calling for genocide of Israelis (although that was a mistranslation anyway of Ahmadinejad) they did everything they could to ensure a nuclear war was waged against Iran. So whining is putting it mildly

      • bilal a
        July 10, 2014, 8:26 pm

        the children are murdered first.

        ———–
        Yuval’s article stems from a reexamination of the well-known Hebrew Chronicles of the First Crusade (1096). In these texts, we learn that the Jews of the Rhineland chose to kill their children and then commit suicide rather than either convert to Christianity or be killed. Although these Jews were celebrated as martyrs for the faith by centuries of tradition, as well as by Jewish historians, Yuval points out how unusual and shocking their behavior actually was. There were, of course, certain precedents for this version of kiddush ha-shem and other forms of martyrdom, but generally Jewish halakhic authorities regarded suicide, let alone infanticide, with the greatest hostility. It is particularly striking that later Orthodox Jews, including those in the time of the Holocaust, almost never imitated these Ashkenazic Jews of the Middle Ages.

        What could have spurred these Jews to take such an extreme action, a medieval equivalent of the mass suicide by the members of the People’s Temple in Jonestown? Yuval shows that the medieval Rhineland Jews believed that the blood of the martyrs would reach the divine throne, where it would stain God’s coat and act as a magical agent to cause Him to avenge his slaughtered children. The Sefer Hasidim, an early thirteenth-century pietistic text, decrees that the owner of a house in which someone has been martyred and blood has been spilled on the wall should not plaster over the blood: “As long as the blood is not covered, God will take vengeance and when it is covered, He will not hurry to avenge. …
        link to business.highbeam.com

      • Mooser
        July 10, 2014, 5:52 pm

        “I do agree it’s highly likely you can find similar tweets from the other side which would be as vile.”

        Shouldn’t take you more than ten minutes to search and find an example or two, and post them here. What’s stopping you?

      • oldgeezer
        July 10, 2014, 7:07 pm

        “Shouldn’t take you more than ten minutes to search and find an example or two, and post them here. What’s stopping you?”

        Well …
        1. It wasn’t my contention that they do exist. It was my concession on a minor point of argument.
        2. While I said likely I don’t feel like wasting time to prove the certainty of his point.
        2. Minor? Yes as it doesn’t justify these tweets. Two wrongs have never made a right.

        God knows how long it has taken me to reply to this as my net connection is dropping about every minute or so. Though that isn’t part of what stops me… just created the delay in replying.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:00 pm

        don’t worry, I took your point and don’t feel its necessary to link to a gazillion stupid comments calling for genocide against the Jews-be they from a few underage Palestinian kids or dumb yokel Americans on CNN. Even if the ‘tweeting’ is serious at the time-nobody of too much consequence is taking them all that seriously. That is what we have learned. I also think its a bit hysterical to hold ANY teen to account after they mature based on snippets of emotion and bravado they wrote when they were-teens. Glass houses and all that you know. But if you think Israeli kids are all so different then other Arab/EU/US kids I am not going to try and convince you otherwise.
        And I still think SHeen could have made his point about the racist Israeli teen comments without the hyper-sexualized images which only perverts his intent into something else-more untawdry then the comments themselves. Mostly because I assume-he is an adult and the girls are considered minors. *
        *and I am no prude btw-i don’t care about nudity in public art or eroticism but-having daugters and knowing what socila pressures teen girls come under (almost universally in the developing world)-sexploitation of minor girls is particularly disgusting and is a separate issue from the Israeli racism that Sheen had no reason other then his own personal and questionable ones to link together

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 10:47 pm

        don’t worry, I took your point and don’t feel its necessary to link to a gazillion stupid comments calling for genocide against the Jews-be they from a few underage Palestinian kids or dumb yokel Americans on CNN.

        You mean, you don’t want to look like more of an idiot than you really do by coming up empty handed or producing something that doesn’t support your argument.

        Got it!

        Even if the ‘tweeting’ is serious at the time-nobody of too much consequence is taking them all that seriously.

        That’s because the US media has been conditioned to ignore and give a pass to the more vile, genocidal and racist rants from Israeli Jews and Israeli leaders, while they meticulously scrutinize, document and archive everything said by an Arab in anger toward Israel and repeat it ad nauseum.

        The funny thing is that you and Hop are here trying to pretend this is not big deal, yet you are both furiously spinning your wheels and trying to put out this fire.

        I still think SHeen could have made his point about the racist Israeli teen comments without the hyper-sexualized images which only perverts his intent into something else-more untawdry then the comments themselves. Mostly because I assume-he is an adult and the girls are considered minors.

        Minors? They are old enough to pose seucally provicative selfies. Amazing how you apologists suddenly pretend as though a minimum age applies to accountability while ISrael is arresting children as young as 5 for allegedly throwing pebbles.

        You and Hop are so obvious it’s embarrassing. You are suddenly finding yourself on the receiving end of the scrutiny and criticism you are so accustomed to directing at Arabs and Palestinians and you are like two fish out of water with no idea how to deal with it.

      • jenin
        July 10, 2014, 5:56 pm

        granted, this is anecdotal, but I have around 100 cousins in the West Bank and Jordan, and am facebook friends with many of them. I have never seen or heard them post anything nearly as vile or racist/prejudiced/whatever you want to call it. Maybe they are simply afraid of being arrested or subjected to violence by the IDF, but for whatever reason, I have never seen anything approaching this.

      • oldgeezer
        July 10, 2014, 9:58 pm

        Anecdotal can work for me, since all of our lives are based largely upon that in many areas. I do have trouble extrapolating that to state that there are no outliers within the Palestinian population that aren’t equally depraved. Once you get into populations of any decent size generalities are generally (sic) wrong.

    • Annie Robbins
      July 10, 2014, 2:37 pm

      it is even creepier that author uses the adolescent female ‘porn’ images to convey something supposedly even more shocking.

      really? even creepier than:

      “We wage war so this will be our land without any Arabs”

      “Kill Arab children so there won’t be a next generation”

      “From the bottom of my heart, I wish for Arabs to be torched”

      those are photos these young people publish of themselves. please explain to me how it is worse to republish their image than a call for genocide.

      oldgeezer, I do agree it’s highly likely you can find similar tweets from the other side which would be as vile.

      i doubt that.

      • a blah chick
        July 10, 2014, 2:47 pm

        Don’t you know? Talking about the abuse is worse than the abuse itself.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:04 pm

        “i doubt that”
        so you really think Israeli teens are so much different then Arab teens in their political viewpoints? Forgetting the author found a dozen or so and there are at least a million+ Israeli teens using social apps you are confident drawing this conclusion. And the conclusion that you can’t find anything equally as racist from Arab underage youths about Jews and/or Israelis?

    • Talkback
      July 10, 2014, 2:48 pm

      There ‘tweets’ may be vile and nasty but not shocking …

      Yeah, this could be German teens from the 30s talking about Jews. Vile, nasty, but not shocking … at least not to a Nazi mindset.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:14 pm

        I can’t recall one of the bikini clad girls mentioning anything about being ‘racially superior’ the way Nazi kids were taught by their parents, leaders and teachers. Please highlight a tweet that refers to their views as ‘racialist’ as opposed to just pure tribal ‘bravado’. Old geezer says he is old and then I am sure he can remember the 17-20yr old Americans going off to “kill Nazis, murder germans and kill J-(insert any number of racist epithets) and yet somehow this generation came to see the need for progressive policy and human rights.)

      • Talkback
        July 12, 2014, 4:06 am

        Please highlight a tweet that refers to their views as ‘racialist’ as opposed to just pure tribal ‘bravado’.

        Are you nuts? Any tweet will do. But you don’t understand it, because it’s not against Jews. That’s your only “moral” compass, because you are a racist, too.

    • Chu
      July 10, 2014, 2:51 pm

      He was conveying to us, through images, that all right wing fanatics of Israel aren’t always camo’ed IDF with tear gas canister guns. Many of them are warped young children like the imagery above.

      deBakr [-if author posted sexualized inages of Arab girls he would be risking not only his own life but also maybe the girls]

      that was a flip the table troll maneuver. The topic are these depraved Israeli youth, not the risk of what-ifs about taking Arab pictures.

      • Kay24
        July 10, 2014, 4:34 pm

        Yes, and the quick comparison to Arabs too. They cannot help themselves, they go through training seminars to react this way. Pathetic.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:19 pm

        of course you would say this. you see things only in black and white and have no capacity to understand hypocrisy when it comes to the I/P conflict. E.g. , that these are maybe a dozen or two stupid tweets from maybe very stupid -and UNDERAGE Israeli kids wouldnt make you think about the other million Israeli teens tweeting away normal teen msg’s the way normal teens do. That would be entirely….boring. And if I linked to Arab children making racist anti-Jewish comments (which I won’t) what would it prove about Arabs? Nothing. period.

    • Shingo
      July 10, 2014, 5:43 pm

      Sheen did not use adolescent female ‘porn’ images you moron, those girls posted those images to the web for the public to see. They already gave their consent when they did so.

      You’re just trying to change the subject rather than have to admit you’re as sick and racist as they are.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:23 pm

        “sheen did not use adolescent porn images” right. then what did he use and why do we see all manner of tweeting conversations online that do NOT contain the inages of their authors bigger then the comments themselves. I think it may be you who is the moron.
        I know exactly what Sheen did and unless you want me to believe that not only he, but you as well are truly so innocent and defending behavior you would never tolerate in your opponents and I can only imagine the uproar and disgust that would arise from these forums.

    • Mooser
      July 10, 2014, 5:54 pm

      “There ‘tweets’ may be vile and nasty but not shocking and I’m sure the author could find comparable ‘tweets’ reflecting hatred towards Israelis from adolescents around the region”

      If you are so goddammed sure, take ten minutes, and show us some.

    • Ellen
      July 11, 2014, 10:14 am

      DaBakr, these teen girls posted their soft porn self images for public consumption on twitter. It is not like they were downloaded from some private site. They offered themselves on twitter.

      As an aside, anyone notice parallels between images and vile words of these tweets and the racist violent NAzi porn. What is it that connects this kind of stuff? When our fellow humans brothers and sisters become objects for all versions of porn?

      • Taxi
        July 12, 2014, 5:02 am

        Ellen,

        Not to shock or offend your graceful sensibility, but there is such a thing as ‘holocaust porn’ – made in israel for israelis; very popular in idf toilets and watchtowers:
        link to en.wikipedia.org

        Here’s why isreali feminists complain about holocaust porn:
        link to just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com

        We even discussed it here on mondoweiss a while back:
        link to mondoweiss.net

        I seem to recall from a while back too that the topic was discussed on several other threads (after Cast Lead?).

    • Daniel Rich
      July 11, 2014, 5:38 pm

      @ DEBKA DaBakr,

      Q: …as grim as the ‘tweets’ that author scoured this obviously adolescent dominated media it is even creepier that author uses the adolescent female ‘porn’ images to convey something supposedly even more shocking.

      R: That first sentence touched on all the right notes, but then you couldn’t help yourself and had to go after the messenger.

      I’m not a prophet [not even profitable, according to my wife], but I would advise you to change the Hasbara template you’re using, because its core is corrupted and whatever glyphs do show up on a page… are undecipherable gibberish and means nothing to nobody.

      “When I walked on water, a zionist called out ‘He can’t even swim!'” – JC’s tweet reproduced via tinyurl.hea

  4. marc b.
    July 10, 2014, 2:09 pm

    yeah. I’m reap your mom. smiley face. maybe if they were issued bikini tops and hip-hugger jeans embossed with hakenkreuze the images wouldn’t seem so bizarre.

    ‘death to arabs and cotton candy lip gloss for everyone!’ woo hoo.

  5. Kay24
    July 10, 2014, 2:09 pm

    The viciousness and evil in their hearts reflects in their eyes. They are making themselves look ugly and mean, by writing such hateful, racist, rants.
    I have come across such awful comments by the hasbarats in comments, the same viciousness, same hatred shown, in their lame comments.
    Nothing to worry about folks, I think only their fellow haters would go into rapture about the hate. The rest of the sane world, will most probably think they are disgusting, like many of us do.

    • Mooser
      July 10, 2014, 6:04 pm

      Kay24, I have concluded that Zionists wish to display themselves as, hateful and racist. It’s a win-win thing for them. More than even trying to appeal to people with similar bents, they are always eager to portray Zionists as people who can never live on terms with anyone else. Any mis-understanding they can inspire in the rest of the world, any fear of Jew and of the Jewish community and religion they can inspire, is, in their eyes, has a possiblility of causing trouble for Jews, and there is nothing, nothing Zionists want more to see than Jews in trouble! Wouldn’t it be great if Jews had to come begging to Israel for protection? They’d have us by the short hairs.
      Palestinians are, of course, the primary victims of Zionism, I never lose sight of that. But victimising Jews is an essential part of their plan. Zionism falls to pieces if there aren’t Jews in trouble. Since I guess the world doesn’t give us enough, the Zionist want to make sure we never get a respite.

      • oldgeezer
        July 10, 2014, 10:05 pm

        ” Wouldn’t it be great if Jews had to come begging to Israel for protection? ”

        Well that and they get to point at a trouble spot, plead insecurity, and play on western guilt.

        The current meme I’m seeing on some pro Israeli sites is Netanyahu is doing all he can to avoid an invasion.

        From what? Termites?

  6. Talkback
    July 10, 2014, 2:12 pm

    Replace “Israeli” with “German” and “Arab” with “Jews” and you get a pretty accurate picture …

  7. James North
    July 10, 2014, 2:12 pm

    Israel: A Light Among Nations.

    • yonah fredman
      July 11, 2014, 7:48 am

      James North- First to the post of David Sheen. In the past I pooh-poohed racism in Israeli society and it is dangerous and harmful to dismiss this phenomenon. I was raised on Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King and these kids were raised with bombs going off on buses, so I accept that though it is wrong to dismiss racism, it is helpful to trace its causes. (“Demographic threat” the original exile of the Palestinians in 48, the continued dispossession, the constant war, the acceptance of the occupation, are all larger factors (macro) than the bombs on buses, so I “apologize” for putting it in politicized hasbara terms.)

      I read your comment hours ago. To tell you the truth: it sounds to me like you’re trying to curry favor with the goyim crowd. That is the Jew haters who you can detect by their use of the word goyim. (false detection or real detection, let’s not argue, you know what i’m referring to.) and with this “light among the nations” rhetoric you’re currying favor with that crowd. I think the next time you feel like commenting like that, you should count to ten and think again.

      • MRW
        July 11, 2014, 11:15 am

        “That is the Jew haters who you can detect by their use of the word goyim.”

        Give your hyperventilating a break. And who made you the global cruise editor? The word goyim courses through Manhattan speech from Jews and non-Jews like the traffic.

        And now you’ve added A Light Among Nations? Apart from the obvious sarcasm James North was employing in his use of Israel’s pat metaphor for decades, are you frickin’ kidding me? What do you want? Verisimilitude? “A Bomb Among Nations.” Or better yet, “A Boo-Boo Among Nations.” Or, Biach.

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:32 pm

        he doesn’t give 2shts. this crowd only sees hypocrisy as a one-way street. ALL Israel-all the time. They have latched onto the nazi analogy like wild monkeys on a banana tree. Don;t you get it? Jews are no longer Jews. Arabs{Palestinians} are the Jews. And Jews are Nazis (or, oh oh sorry, not really Jews, and not really Israelis, but Zionists. Turn Zionists into something other then human and your right back to square one. And its all guess who’s fault?)

      • Talkback
        July 12, 2014, 4:20 am

        Jews are no longer Jews. … Jews are Nazis …

        It’s not about being a Jew or not, it’s about how one treats others. And if one talks and walks like a Nazi, I have no problem calling one a Nazi whether one’s Jewish or not.

      • Sumud
        July 12, 2014, 5:03 am

        Don;t you get it? Jews are no longer Jews. Arabs{Palestinians} are the Jews.

        Are you even aware that your concept of “jew” is that of perpetual victim?

        Accordingly, even as Israeli jews rain down death and destruction on Gaza – killing civilians by the dozen – they remain the victim and Palestinian suffering is denied. Worse even, it isn’t denied, it is an impossibility. It cannot exist, because jews are the victims, always.

        I suggest you put some effort into unpacking that.

  8. Sumud
    July 10, 2014, 2:30 pm

    Well thank goodness for technology and Yad Vashem’s YouTube channel.

    Most of these young ladies great-grandparents would be dead now but their wisdom and experience is forever available online: over a thousand videos, with lots of personal testimony. Just a few clicks and the girls can learn exactly how to achieve their goals.

    • a blah chick
      July 10, 2014, 4:45 pm

      There was an article in Haaretz about the scandalous behavior of Jewish Israeli high schoolers on trips to Auschwitz. There was disrespectful posings in front of crematoriums and rude comments on their Facebook accounts. So this should come as no surprise.

  9. seafoid
    July 10, 2014, 2:38 pm

    Israel. Tits and ass and righteous fury

    I feel so sorry for the women of Israel. Imagine looking for a partner in that society. Someone who will be a good father AND hate the Palestinians. They can’t control where the violence goes.

    link to electronicintifada.net

    “Israel’s righteous fury and its victims in Gaza

    Ilan Pappe The Electronic Intifada 2 January 2009
    My visit back home to the Galilee coincided with the genocidal Israeli attack on Gaza. The state, through its media and with the help of its academia, broadcasted one unanimous voice — even louder than the one heard during the criminal attack against Lebanon in the summer of 2006. Israel is engulfed once more with righteous fury that translates into destructive policies in the Gaza Strip. This appalling self-justification for the inhumanity and impunity is not just annoying, it is a subject worth dwelling on, if one wants to understand the international immunity for the massacre that rages on in Gaza.

    It is based first and foremost on sheer lies transmitted with a newspeak reminiscent of darker days in 1930s Europe. Every half an hour a news bulletin on the radio and television describes the victims of Gaza as terrorists and Israel’s massive killings of them as an act of self-defense. Israel presents itself to its own people as the righteous victim that defends itself against a great evil. The academic world is recruited to explain how demonic and monstrous is the Palestinian struggle, if it is led by Hamas. These are the same scholars who demonized the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in an earlier era and delegitimized his Fatah movement during the second Palestinian intifada.

    But the lies and distorted representations are not the worst part of it. It is the direct attack on the last vestiges of humanity and dignity of the Palestinian people that is most enraging. The Palestinians in Israel have shown their solidarity with the people of Gaza and are now branded as a fifth column in the Jewish state; their right to remain in their homeland cast as doubtful given their lack of support for the Israeli aggression. Those among them who agree — wrongly, in my opinion — to appear in the local media are interrogated, and not interviewed, as if they were inmates in the Shin Bet’s prison. Their appearance is prefaced and followed by humiliating racist remarks and they are met with accusations of being a fifth column, an irrational and fanatical people. And yet this is not the basest practice. There are a few Palestinian children from the occupied territories treated for cancer in Israeli hospitals. God knows what price their families have paid for them to be admitted there. The Israel Radio daily goes to the hospital to demand the poor parents tell the Israeli audience how right Israel is in its attack and how evil is Hamas in its defense.

    There are no boundaries to the hypocrisy that a righteous fury produces. The discourse of the generals and the politicians is moving erratically between self-compliments of the humanity the army displays in its “surgical” operations on the one hand, and the need to destroy Gaza for once and for all, in a humane way of course, on the other.”

  10. American
    July 10, 2014, 2:40 pm

    If these kids were tweeting this stuff in the US or europe about jews or blacks or anyone—except maybe muslims—there would be police at their house shutting them down or arresting them for incitement to hate crimes.

    Question is how many Israeli youth are infected with this—Avagail and Isr drop outs like Danaa say Israeli education/schools foster this attitude.

    • jenin
      July 10, 2014, 3:49 pm

      yes, exactly. I think there is an argument to be made that this is incitement and thus not protected by the First Amendment (or Israeli equivalent). As a free speech proponent, there’s an argument on the other side of course. As a human being, these tweets are abhorrent, vile and despicable, and twitter should take them down as it is not a governmental body and doesn’t have to abide by the First Amendment. I am sure they would do so were the tweets about any other group of people

    • seafoid
      July 10, 2014, 4:07 pm

      “there would be police at their house shutting them down or arresting them for incitement to hate crimes.”

      There are too many of them for the police to lock up and the police themselves share a lot of the attitudes. Israel is a failing social experiment. They have a large pipeline of on message people to run the occupation but they don’t have enough decent adults who understand the difference between right and wrong and it’s getting worse.

      The price of the occupation is the moral collapse of Israeli society.

      • Mooser
        July 10, 2014, 7:44 pm

        Seafoid, is Zionism didn’t produce an amoral society, there wouldn’t have been an occupation is the first place.

      • gamal
        July 11, 2014, 12:27 am

        “Seafoid, is Zionism didn’t produce an amoral society”
        the Mehane Mooser is an inevitability, finally Zionism penetrates all, let us study its habits and be cautious. I call it Musa 1.

      • seafoid
        July 11, 2014, 11:52 am

        Mooser

        The occupation is 47 years old, the 48 war was over in less than a year.

        I think the occupation was a colossal mistake – they chose the wrong path and now they have ruined their society on the back of it.

        The war required concentrated evil and not everyone joined in. The occupation involves the entire society and it needs indoctrinated school kids to maintain it. I was there in 2000 and it was a different country to now. Some memes take ages to flower.

        I agree that the war was amoral but the post 67 land fetish made them change the way they educated their kids. They essentially destroy their kids’
        development to support the settlers.

        Israel could have been turned into a normal country in the 50s with reparations for the Palestinians. The Germans were far worse off in 1948, as were the Poles. Israel is a hopeless case now.

        I think they never dealt with the Holocaust properly which is why the psychosis took hold.

      • peeesss
        July 11, 2014, 1:17 am

        The moral collapse of Israeli society came long before the “occupation” in 1967. How about 47/48 the “Nakba”. Maybe Herzle’s dream of “spiriting the helpless Palestinians” into neighboring countries in order for there to be a Zionist State of Israel for Jews only . That was said in the late 1900’s/ early 20th century. As Mooser states,” if Zionism didn’t produce an amoral society, there wouldn’t have been an occupation in the first place. “

      • seafoid
        July 11, 2014, 12:07 pm

        Fair enough but I think Zionism is like psychosis and in the 70s they could still appear normal to Americans without presenting any giveaway symptoms whereas now it’s so obvious they are psychotic. And the psychosis has been reinforced over so many iterations of Jewish nihilism in the occupied territories. Whereas if they hadn’t occupied in 1967 they might have been able to get some treatment and the current generation of tweenies might have had a chance of growing up normal.

      • Sumud
        July 11, 2014, 1:04 pm

        Whereas if they hadn’t occupied in 1967 they might have been able to get some treatment and the current generation of tweenies might have had a chance of growing up normal.

        Agreed. By 1967 they had basically gotten away with the Nakba and the massive land grab of half the Palestinian partition in 1948. If they’d just been content with 78% of mandate Palestine a permanent settlement could have been reached by the 70s or 80s.

        Oh well, they gambled the lot and they will lose the lot. C’est la vie.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 12:41 pm

        Thanks for correcting me. you are right. The “is” should have been “if zionism didn’t produce”

        BTW, I believe Hostage can tell us a lot about how morally Zionists treated the Jews they were inveigling into Palestine.

    • Sumud
      July 10, 2014, 4:11 pm

      Question is how many Israeli youth are infected with this

      A lot.

      Survey results from Israeli schools in 2010 reveal toxic racism to be widespread, and it would be worse now after years of Netanyahu and Lieberman:

      The teens were asked about the rights of Arab Israelis. Here, too, there was a gap in the opinions of religious and secular students. While 82% of religious students responded that they don’t believe Arabs should be granted equal rights as Jews, 36% percent of seculars responded that they do not believe in equal rights for Arabs and Jews. Overall, 46% students believe there should not be equality between Jewish and Arab citizens of the State of Israel.

      The poll showed that many students believe the phrase “Death to Arabs” is racist, and, therefore, not legitimate. Forty-five percent of religious students and 16% of secular students, however, believe it is a legitimate statement.

      Some 82% of the religious students believe Arab Israelis should not be allowed to vote in Knesset elections, versus 47% of seculars. Overall, 56% of the high school students polled believe Arabs should not be allowed to vote.

      Students were asked if they would be willing to have an Arab friend who is the same sex and age as they are. Out of the religious students polled, 81% said they would not be willing, versus 23% of secular students who would not want to have an Arab friend. Overall, 32% of students said they would not want to have an Arab friend.
      Ynet: Poll: 46% of high-schoolers don’t want equality for Arabs

      Anecdotally, from 2011:

      In one case, a 12th grade student of a northern Israeli school wrote “Death to the Arabs” on a test in civics class. In another case, a high school student from Tel Aviv stood up during class, and to the horror of his teacher declared that his dream is to volunteer for the Border Guard, “so that I can spray Arabs to death.” His friends welcomed the announcement with applause.

      Moreover, civics teachers around the country have been finding graffiti on the walls of their classrooms, bearing slogans ranging from “Kahane was right” to “A good Arab is a dead Arab.” Other statements incite against the ultra-Orthodox sector and against refugees.

      According to an Education Ministry source, the recent incidents reflect an escalation in racism among Israeli students. He primarily blamed politicians for encouraging hatred.

      Ynet: Student’s answer on civics test: Death to Arabs

    • Chu
      July 10, 2014, 4:48 pm

      But it’s not America- it’s some bizarre offshoot that claims it’s a democracy but has a real taste for fascism coupled with delusions of ethnic superiority.

    • oldgeezer
      July 10, 2014, 9:15 pm

      I have certainly seen at least one study which quantified the extent to which the educational literature detailed racist beliefs.Hard to guess at the extent to which the teachers and system added to that. It wasn’t a tie but it was very close.

      I don’t think it’s just education though. It’s their politicians, newspapers, the opinion makers. In short their society. The hate gives them purpose and commonality.

      But yeah in a western nation they’d be shut down. And in most western nations arrested for hate crimes. Despicable.

  11. Chu
    July 10, 2014, 2:42 pm

    typical group-think (hive mind) mentality. That’s the problem when you’re in an insulated cult –
    it’s an echo chamber without fresh ideas. they probably need to lie to themselves with this ‘Arabs get off our land’ crap because inside they deny the fact that they are the goon usurpers.

    • seafoid
      July 10, 2014, 4:10 pm

      They can’t admit that the last 47 years were a mistake.

      • Chu
        July 10, 2014, 4:45 pm

        Their indoctrination is running out of steam. Waltz with Bashir was nothing compared to the last 47 years of Israeli aggression. Fink today says: Since September 2000, Israeli forces have killed more than 3,000 Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities.

      • Shingo
        July 10, 2014, 9:09 pm

        Fink today says: Since September 2000, Israeli forces have killed more than 3,000 Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities.

        Expect Chomsky to chime in and blame this entirely on the US, arguing that the plan is all part of US empirialism.

      • Chu
        July 11, 2014, 11:23 am

        ‘chime in and blame this entirely on the US, arguing that the plan is all part of US empirialism.’ – That BD (deduct the ‘S’) was a sham. Chomsky’s soft-core zionism doesn’t want BDS to manifest, but he is the one becoming more irrelevant than BDS.

      • RoHa
        July 10, 2014, 8:05 pm

        I make it 117 years, since 1897.

      • peeesss
        July 11, 2014, 1:35 am

        Please, the last 67 years has been a mistake. A disaster , a catastrophe, a Nakba, a genocide, an earthquake , the making of the innocents, of victims into terrorists. Today the mighty moral Israeli armed forces are in a turkey shoot upon that poor , isolated land of Gaza . One million , 800,000 people, half under the age of 16, children, being bombed, killed, maimed, homes , schools, hospitals , destroyed. And we are told by the US govt. led by our moral President , that Israel has every right to “defend”itself. The 4th. strongest army in the world, a nuclear power, in violation of dozens of United Nation resolutions once again , proudly, loudly, proclaiming to the world we are the VICTIMS, and shall righteously slay, strike down the evil doers, the children of of Palestine. And the world stays silent. Shame.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:19 pm

        “Please, the last 67 years has been a mistake. “

        Everybody makes mistakes, and we all know that. People also act irrationally under pressure, too, and everybody knows that. Israel could have admitted its mistakes, and modified its course, stopped its intransigence, settled its borders, all that.
        They choose not to. Their concern, or rather infatuation with their Zionist goals outweighs any other consideration, especially the safety and security of Jews. (Let alone anybody else)

  12. a blah chick
    July 10, 2014, 2:48 pm

    “I’m reap you’re mom”

    Better bring a ho.

    • Sumud
      July 10, 2014, 5:06 pm

      Haha – except that won’t be necessary >> they can just steal one owned by a Palestinian.

  13. Sycamores
    July 10, 2014, 3:22 pm

    Twacists is the term given to these teens on twitter.

    Reporting abusive behavior on twitter link to support.twitter.com

    How do I file a report that someone is tweeting abusive messages?

    You can file a report that someone is posting abusive messages by going to this page link to support.twitter.com

    What happens when Twitter receives a valid report?

    Once you have submitted your report, we will review the reported account, including the links to Tweets you’d like us to investigate. If the account is in violation of our policies, we will take action, ranging from warning the user up to permanently suspending the account.

    getting their A/C suspending won’t stop them from opening a new A/C. however it will leave them know that they were suspended because of their racism which would be an embarassment to their followers that are not racist. name and shame.

  14. Shingo
    July 10, 2014, 5:04 pm

    I wonder if Jon S’s of fence over blood list applies to these tweets.

    It’s pathetic to watch these hedonistic, narcissistic brats posting these Paris Hilton selfies, pretend to be in danger.

    They are a sad reflection of a decaying and disgusting society. The more these tweets are made public, the bette.

    • Chu
      July 10, 2014, 5:17 pm

      The good part about twitter is the ability to get a cross section (or in this case the underbelly) of any society. Clues like these posts, show the outside world what a depraved society we are witness to.

    • seafoid
      July 10, 2014, 5:21 pm

      “They are a sad reflection of a decaying and disgusting society”

      Aren’t they just?

      link to virtualmethodist.blogspot.ch

      “You coasted along
      To larger houses, gadgets, more machines
      To golf and weekend bungalows,
      Caravans when the children were small,
      the Mediterranean, later, with the wife.

      You did not go to Church often,
      Weddings were special;
      But you kept your name on the books
      Against eventualities;
      And the parson called, or the curate.

      You showed a sense of responsibility,
      With subscriptions to worthwhile causes
      And service in voluntary organisations;
      And, anyhow, this did the business no harm,
      No harm at all.
      Relations were improving. A good
      useful life. You coasted along.

      You even had a friend of two of the other sort,
      Coasting too: your ways ran parallel.
      Their children and yours seldom met, though,
      Being at different schools.
      You visited each other, decent folk with a sense
      Of humour. Introduced, even, to
      One of their clergy. And then you smiled
      In the looking-glass, admiring, a
      Little moved by, your broadmindedness.
      Your father would never have known
      One of them. Come to think of it,
      When you were young, your own home was never
      Visited by one of the other sort.

      Relations were improving. The annual processions
      began to look rather like folk-festivals.
      When that noisy preacher started,
      he seemed old-fashioned, a survival.
      Later you remarked on his vehemence,
      a bit on the rough side.
      But you said, admit, you said in the club,
      ‘You know, there’s something in what he says’.

      And you who seldom had time to read a book,
      what with reports and the colour-supplements,
      denounced censorship.
      And you who never had an adventurous thought
      were positive that the church of the other sort
      vetoes thought.
      And you who simply put up with marriage
      for the children’s sake, deplored
      the attitude of the other sort
      to divorce.
      You coasted along.
      And all the time, though you never noticed,
      The old lies festered;
      the ignorant became more thoroughly infected;
      there were gains, of course;
      you never saw any go barefoot.

      The government permanent, sustained
      by the regular plebiscites of loyalty.
      You always voted but never
      put a sticker on your car;
      a card in the window
      would not have been seen from the street.
      Faces changed on posters, names too, often,
      but the same families, the same class of people.
      A Minister once called you by your first name.
      You coasted along
      and the sores supperated and spread.

      Now the fever is high and raging;
      Who would have guessed it, coasting along?
      The ignorant-sick thresh about in delirium
      And tear at the scabs with dirty finger-nails.
      The cloud of infection hangs over the city,
      A quick change of wind and it
      Might spill over the leafy suburbs.
      You coasted along”

      John Hewitt, 1969

    • Daniel Rich
      July 11, 2014, 7:07 pm

      @ Shingo,

      Q: the bette.

      R: If you wanna do the real hood speak, say ‘betha,’ a’righ?

  15. alleng
    July 10, 2014, 5:05 pm

    Very alarming indeed. That they are repeating virtually the same hate message makes me believe they’ve been indoctrinated and programmed through the Israeli education system to prepare little monsters for occupation duty. They are inhuman products of a very sick culture posing in a mirror without seeing.

  16. bopfromthedarkside
    July 10, 2014, 5:21 pm

    Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is a hyper-violent nationalistic movement and a moral stain on the human race; based on the infantile superstition that “God gave this land to me.” Israel should be marginalized and separated from the civilized world. And to think, we bought them nukes.

  17. Mooser
    July 10, 2014, 5:45 pm

    ” I’m reap you’re mom”

    Nah, you more likely will reap what you sew. And the pillow-case might even lie back and enjoy it.

    • a blah chick
      July 10, 2014, 6:53 pm

      Ha!

    • Inanna
      July 11, 2014, 4:47 am

      I didn’t think anything could make me laugh today. Thank you Mooser.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 12:43 pm

        My pleasure. As even the most cursory glance at Alces Alces will show you, I was born for it.

  18. Shingo
    July 10, 2014, 5:54 pm

    What’s worth voting is that if these girls were in the US posting this kind of bile, it would be a scandal. Not even Pam Gellar resorts to this venom.

    But in Israel, it’s status quo. If these girls were ever reprimanded, it would be for the attractive bad publicity, not because their comments are considered offensive.

  19. a blah chick
    July 10, 2014, 6:57 pm

    Personally I think most of them are full of hot air. Oh they’re all girlie macho now but wait until they get into the army. The first time their commanding officer feels them up in the supply room they’ll be on the phone to abba.

  20. pjdude
    July 10, 2014, 7:35 pm

    and were told Israelis are peaceful and just want to be left alone. funny how when the facts come out their shown to be the more bloodthirsty of the sides.

  21. American
    July 10, 2014, 7:42 pm

    Calls for Genocide of the Palestines
    Better do something about Israel now cause that is what the Israelis are building up to.

    ” Israeli lawmaker’s call for genocide of Palestinians”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Submitted by Ali Abunimah on Mon, 07/07/2014 – 16:12

    ”A day before Palestinian teenager Muhammad Abu Khudair was kidnapped and burned alive allegedly by six Israeli Jewish youths, Israeli lawmaker Ayelet Shaked published on Facebook a call for genocide of the Palestinians.

    It is a call for genocide because it declares that—– “the entire Palestinian people is the enemy” and justifies its destruction,—– “including its elderly and its women,—- its cities and its villages,—– its property and its infrastructure.”

    It is a call for genocide because it calls for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to “little snakes.”
    If Shaked’s post does not meet the legal definition of a call for genocide then nothing does.
    Shaked is a senior figure in the Habeyit Hayehudi (Jewish Home) party that is part of Israel’s ruling coalition.
    Her post was shared more than one thousand times and received almost five thousand “Likes.”
    Uri Elitzur, to whom she refers, and who died a few months ago, was leader of the settler movement and speechwriter and close advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
    Here’s a full translation of Shaked’s posting:

    link to electronicintifada.net

  22. a blah chick
    July 10, 2014, 9:09 pm

    People, people, we’ve bitched and moaned about these homicidal babes enough! Now is the time for solutions!

    I say force them to watch Jacir’s “Salt of this Sea.” Only a woman dead below the waist could look at Saleh Bakri’s backside and not want to hit that.

  23. bigNavySeal
    July 10, 2014, 10:27 pm

    I’m pro-Palestinian, and not an user of twitter so I’m not exactly sure how it works, but this article seems like bollocks. First the article caught my eye, but the moment more than a few seductive women came by tweeting death to Arabs I seriously started to have my doubts about the credibility of this article and quit reading further. There are only ‘hot’ women making comments, like they’re on a dating site or something? On two photos there’s even a logo of ‘retrica’, whatever that may be, wouldn’t be surprised that’s a dating site. There’s not a single guy. These women have not posted such comments or am I ignorant here… Please enlighten me

    • Annie Robbins
      July 11, 2014, 1:58 am

      I’m pro-Palestinian….but this article seems like bollocks.

      jeez, if i just had a dollar for every first time commenter introducing themselves as ‘pro palestinian’ and then continues only to trash one of our articles.

      • bigNavySeal
        July 11, 2014, 6:01 am

        funny how you’re immediately assuming that I’m not pro-palestian without providing me with any useful information about the actual article like Tree does.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 11, 2014, 6:13 am

        i said nothing about you not being pro palestinian.

        i knew one of our helpful commenters would enlighten you, this is not rocket science. if you find that ‘funny’, so be it.

        your first comment on this site and you choose an article you think is bogus and insult us. i felt no obligation to provide you an explanation, i’m busy.

      • bigNavySeal
        July 11, 2014, 12:01 pm

        Ok, I guess I shouldn’t have used the word bollocks.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 12:52 pm

        If you want info “big Navy Seal” go go here

    • tree
      July 11, 2014, 2:39 am

      BNS,

      If you click on the last blued clickable link at the end of each Twitter comment it will take you to the personal Twitter page of each commenter that David Sheen reproduced here. I checked all of them this morning. The tweets are all legitimate, David didn’t make anything up, and they are all on Twitter, not a dating site. Some of them I notice have since been deleted or made private, probably because of the publicity.

      Retrica is a popular app for taking Selfies (self-portraits taken with your smartphone).

      link to play.google.com

      Twitterers (tweeters) usually post a profile picture that goes out with each tweet. That’s why the pictures are there. Since twitter is a social medium used by a lot of young people they often use it for hook-ups and such so that’s why the posed selfies.

      • bigNavySeal
        July 11, 2014, 6:03 am

        Thanks for the explanation Tree! In that case… I just can’t believe these posts are being tweeted by these young women. Disturbing.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 3:09 pm

        You’re welcome, BNS.

        BTW, I think you should cut Annie some slack here. Besides authoring some great pieces she also does a large share of the moderating here, which is almost entirely a thankless job and she’s correct in that numerous new commenters have claimed to be “pr0-Palestinian… but” and have turned out to simply be apologists for Zionism, with little real sympathy for the Palestinians. And some of them have turned out to be sock-puppets as well ( link to en.wikipedia.org ), including at least one that was commenting from the Israeli foreign ministers office, if I recall correctly.

        In any case, welcome to the fray and I hope you are sincere but you are welcome here no matter what.

      • bigNavySeal
        July 12, 2014, 5:33 am

        Thanks Tree. Yes, I am sincere. I was totally unfamiliar with this site but it seems interesting discussions are going on.

        Considering Annies experience with other users on this site I can understand her reaction.

        I will try to find the time to orientate myself a bit more on this site.

        I’m from the Netherlands by the way; due to the recent development of Netanyahus response offensive because of the 3 killed teenagers, which is (once again) outrageous by the way, it seems public opinion is changing here in holland. Sympathy for the Israeli regime is decreasing

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:22 pm

        “I just can’t believe these posts are being tweeted by these young women.”

        And how would you compare it to what the young men in the IDF ‘security forces’ and Israeli Air Force is doing?

    • Mooser
      July 11, 2014, 12:45 pm

      If I had a dollar for every fake “Navy Seal” I’d be rich. No, I take it back, I’d only need 50 cents a head.

      • bigNavySeal
        July 12, 2014, 5:21 am

        Lol, yep you would have yourself another dollar in that case. I kind of realise now that my alias isn’t the most fitting on this site; I just like the navy seals and have since added the ‘big’ cause I was part of the now defunct ‘big’ clan during my Starcraft online gaming time a decade ago. The nickname sticks ;-).

  24. hophmi
    July 11, 2014, 12:10 am

    Guess what, David? I put in a search for #jews. This is the very first thing that came up:

    #Hitler Left Some #Jews Alive So the World Could See Why He Killed the Rest… #GazaUnderAttack #FreePalestine— Awais Ahmed (@Awais911) July 11, 2014

    • Shingo
      July 11, 2014, 12:13 am

      Guess what, David? I put in a search for #jews. This is the very first thing that came up:

      Hop is at it spinning his wheels like never before. Desperation in it’s purest form.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 12:35 am

        Maybe this is antizionism to you, Shingo.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 12:49 pm

        “Maybe this is antizionism to you, Shingo.”

        Yes, sir Hophmi, if there’s one person I would trust to tell me what anti-zionism is, it’s a Zionist!

        Hophmi, why don’t you settle on some other website. Or are you planning on annexation?

    • Taxi
      July 11, 2014, 1:05 am

      Hops,

      There is a fundamental difference between the sick sexualized racism of the israeli teen girls and your cut and pasting, allegedly from ‘Arabs’. Palestinian racists are a minority, whereas the gnarly racism of israelis is a culturally accepted norm in every corner of the wretched Apartheid state.

      Israelis clearly love their racism – look at how the teens are showing it: they think it’s COOL AND SEXY to call for a genocide of the Palestinians.

    • Eva Smagacz
      July 11, 2014, 5:30 pm

      Hopmi,

      These tweets you posted show writers revulsion with Jews – what they do not show, is Palestinians calling for wholesale death of Jews.

      And if it were to be found, don’t worry, MEMRI would have found it long ago, and have it plastered on front pages of each and every USA broadsheet.

      Your only point seems to be that people don’t see the difference between Jews and Zionists. Understandable, as Zionists use every propaganda trick up their sleeve to conflate the two.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:28 pm

        “Understandable, as Zionists use every propaganda trick up their sleeve to conflate the two.”

        That’s their dream, that the rest of us suffer for what Zionists do. They hope it will drive us, helpless, into their bailiwick

  25. hophmi
    July 11, 2014, 12:16 am

    Another:

    I could have killed all the #JEWS, but i left SOME of them "To let let YOU know 'WHY' i was killing them". -HITLER— #FREE_GAZA (@greatabka) July 11, 2014

    And another:

    Oh you Muslims Do not like them for a second,they do never like you #jews— Fifa_boss_safana (@_safana_) July 11, 2014

    And another:

    #Jews #ZionistIsrael remember hitler? pic.twitter.com/pt8gJ34hVh— Ar-Rff Ibn Rml (@TunRaffy) July 11, 2014

    And another:

    The entire game plan of #Jews and #Khawarij in #ME explained in this map of #Greater_Israel. link to t.co— S.M.Salman Farooq (@SMSalmanFarooq) July 11, 2014

    And another:

    DO NOT justify the crimes of #Khawarij and #Jews because Bashar-Al-Asad is a criminal as well! link to t.co— S.M.Salman Farooq (@SMSalmanFarooq) July 11, 2014

    This is all in the last hour ALONE.

    • hophmi
      July 11, 2014, 12:34 am

      Some more:

      #Jews will surely be the most wretched on the judgment day,they had God's word and they forsake it and killed innocents #Gaza— Owais mir (@OwaisabdAllah) July 11, 2014

      The most brutalized race on earth #Jews are no the most powerful and most cruel people in the world. Ask ppl in #gaza they tell u all.— MR_Kascino (@Muktarsaeed) July 10, 2014

      The #Jews at @ABC Got Caught in what the Jew does best. Revising the Truth. 3000 yr experience! غزة # #Gaza pic.twitter.com/JJVNE181r2— RyanR ريان (@Messrologist) July 10, 2014

      #Jews are animals. They screech like their monkey ancestors when sirens ring because Allah put such fear into their hearts. #Israel #Gaza— Colonel Ghazi (@ghazishami) July 9, 2014

      • oldgeezer
        July 11, 2014, 12:42 am

        Do you think any number of those erase the genocidal racist comments of Israeli Jews? I’m just curious as to whether you are a person of principle or an abject racist.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 2:22 am

        I’m just curious as to whether you are a person of principle or an abject racist.

        You’re always safe going with number two when it comes to hophmi’s statements.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 10:37 am

        No, not at all. I’ve told my friends on the right for a long time now that this was going to happen if there was no solution to the conflict. These teens were born in the mid 1990s. They are likely no more than two degrees of separation from someone who was killed in a terrorist attack. Their childhood has been marked by stays in bomb shelters, particularly if they’re in southern cities like Sderot or Ashkelon. They have little day to day interaction with Palestinians. Does it surprise you that some of them have negative views like this? Your children would be the same way if their country was repeatedly attacked by the same people and they were in bomb shelters every year or two.

        My point in posting these is that whatever racism you can find among Israeli teenagers, it is dwarfed by the deluge of antisemitic remarks you can find posted on twitter by Arabs and Muslims, in English no less. Everything I posted was tweeted in the span of maybe an hour.

        I can also send you tweets from Israelis (much more representative ones) who do not hold views remotely like this. But I’m sure you get the point.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:40 pm

        “and they were in bomb shelters every year or two.”

        Hey, if the Israelis want to use their children as human shields, I can’t stop them. But I can’t call it anything else but what it is.

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 1:43 am

        Some more:

        Some more lame efforts you mean. None of those call for any kind of violence. You idiots just don’t get it.

    • Shingo
      July 11, 2014, 1:42 am

      This is all in the last hour ALONE.

      You’re losing it Hop. Most of those don’t even look like they came from Palestinians.

  26. talknic
    July 11, 2014, 12:46 am

    “This is all in the last hour ALONE.”

    I wonder how many of those were by Jewish extremists posing as Muslims in order to incite more hatred. If they’re willing to burn a non-Jewish child alive, I wouldn’t put it past them to be faking hatred of Jewish folk

    • Donald
      July 11, 2014, 1:08 am

      It might be better just to admit that there is still a lot of antisemitism in the world.
      This isn’t some fantasy where one side is morally pure and the other pure evil.

      The point should be that the Western press has always emphasized hatred towards Jews by Arabs, while mostly ignoring the hatred of Arabs by Israelis. That’s why Max Blumenthal’s book was given the silent treatment when not being abused by people like Alterman.

      • Taxi
        July 11, 2014, 1:31 am

        The Palestinians are at war with a foreign racist entity that brutally occupies them, they’re not at war with israelis cuz they’re ‘jewish’. The zionists are aiming to conflate anti-occupation voices with antisemitism and running around like headless chickens saying “there is still a lot of antisemitism in the world”.

        I don’t consider the slogan “death to israel” to be antisemitic – cuz it’s a call out to the death of a genocidal occupying country. It’s not the same as “death to jews”, which is antisemetic. On the Arab and Iranian streets, you hear ‘death to israel’, never ‘death to jews’.

      • tree
        July 11, 2014, 2:21 am

        Interestingly, most if not all of the twitter comments hophmi linked to were not from Arabs but from a few Pakistanis, an Indian, a Nigerian, and a white guy from Washington State. All over the world as opposed to tweets from one small country.

        The world is full of racist creeps who don’t mind touting their bigotry, but hophmi keeps trying to insist that Jews are somehow less so than anyone else and then when he’s proven wrong he goes on a rant to prove that Jewish bigotry is just like any other bigotry so why are you picking on Jews, forgetting for the moment that he was the one that tried to claim otherwise by asserting some higher Jewish sensibility. Hence his mad search for derogatory twitter comments which just prove the point he was trying to negate.

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 2:29 am

        Hence his mad search for derogatory twitter comments which just prove the point he was trying to negate.

        Yes, Hop has always been a great asset.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:42 pm

        “Yes, Hop has always been a great asset.”

        Yes, he’s “told all his friends on the right…” So I guess he’s told everybody he knows.

    • hophmi
      July 11, 2014, 10:38 am

      “I wonder how many of those were by Jewish extremists posing as Muslims in order to incite more hatred”

      Yes, that’s it talknic. There’s no way any Arab or Muslim could have these sentiments. I’m sure in the hole you live in you’ve never heard of it.

      • talknic
        July 11, 2014, 2:17 pm

        hophmi “There’s no way any Arab or Muslim could have these sentiments.”

        I you say so hophmi. I wouldn’t

  27. Palikari
    July 11, 2014, 4:32 am

    First of all, I have to say that these tweets are disgusting and I don’t agree with any of them.

    Said that, we must note that these opinions from arsim and frechot don’t represent the vast majority of Israelis and Zionist Jews. Also, these tweets come after a national tragedy, and all Israeli teens feel targeted by terrorists; they rightly think “it could have been me”, referring to Eyal, Gilad and Naftali (Z”L). They are so shocked and angry, and that’s why they published these tweets, as a way to get it off their chests.

    Also, we must note that teens tend to be more passionate and radical and less reasonable than adults; and that they maybe won’t say this in real life, but on Twitter, as a way to get it off their chests as I said before. Actually most of them don’t want to kill all Arabs. I’m pretty sure they are referring only to terrorists and their supporters, not children or loyal Israeli Arabs.

    Look, when I was a young teen I hated Muslims; now I don’t. When you grow up you become much more reasonable and regret how stupid you were. It will happen the same to those teens, too. Tell me, when you were young teens weren’t you more radical, passionate and less reasonable? Of course most of you were! I guess most of you were far-left.

    Besides their young age, you must also take into account what they are going through. If you were an Israeli teen, it’s probable you would also have published tweets like these.

    • Annie Robbins
      July 11, 2014, 4:48 am

      all Israeli teens feel targeted by terrorists… They are so shocked and angry, and that’s why they published these tweets, as a way to get it off their chests….most of them don’t want to kill all Arabs. I’m pretty sure they are referring only to terrorists and their supporters, not children or loyal Israeli Arabs.

      uh huh.

      Tell me, when you were young teens weren’t you more radical, passionate and less reasonable?

      less reasonable perhaps, but i was never a flaming racist.

      If you were an Israeli teen, it’s probable you would also have published tweets like these.

      anyone of us could have been raised as a colonist brainwashed into thinking it was our right to strip a people of their lands and homes. your point?

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 10:40 am

        “uh huh.”

        Well, Annie, when you have to run into a bomb shelter every year because the same people are trying to kill you by throwing missiles into your town, we’ll see if this is still your reaction.

        “less reasonable perhaps, but i was never a flaming racist.”

        You live in California in North America. You’re very privileged not to be involved in any ethnic conflict.

        You are not blessed with even the remotest understanding of human nature.

      • Djinn
        July 11, 2014, 10:47 am

        You don’t live in a conflict zone either Hophmi so stop with the moralizing.

        You definitely don’t live under a brutal occupation, which bestows much more trauma than having to run to a safe room every now and then.

        If you ever do, we’ll see what YOUR reaction is.

      • Qualtrough
        July 11, 2014, 11:28 am

        Hophmi–It is funny how you and your ilk are constantly trying to convince us that Palestinians have a defective culture and are little better than violent beasts that are unlike normal human beings. If these tweets were from Palestinian girls you would have jumped at the chance to show them to us. But when the shoe is on the other foot, when we have evidence of the EXACT SAME (or even worse) behavior by Israelis that you accuse the Palestinians of, we just get excuses from you. In a nutshell, if an Israeli does something bad you will go to ridiculous lengths to excuse or minimize what they did, while at the same time never missing an opportunity to demonize Palestinians and/or Arabs in general. You must not be that bright if you think that doesn’t come through crystal clear in your posts.

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 11:44 am

        “You don’t live in a conflict zone either Hophmi so stop with the moralizing.”

        I’ve met kids from Sderot who certainly do. They’re highly traumatized by what they’ve had to put up with for the past decade. I suspect Annie knows exactly what I am talking about. Her posturing here does not fool me for a second.

      • MHughes976
        July 11, 2014, 11:47 am

        I don’t live in a conflict zone either, though I did experience the IRA years in England. However, I do think moral comment from outside is of value. Many conflicts have a ‘war of ideas’ international aspect, the Palestine conflict more than most.

      • talknic
        July 11, 2014, 12:40 pm

        hophmi “I’ve met kids from Sderot who certainly do. They’re highly traumatized by what they’ve had to put up with for the past decade.”

        That’s terrible. You should go whine and moan to the Israeli Govt hophmi, they’re responsible for the illegal acquisition of non-Israeli territory for the last 66 years, for the creation of stupid illegal facts on the ground, for endangering Israeli citizens by garnering the well deserved hatred of those they have dispossessed and who they continue to occupy.

        Successive Israeli Govts have been responsible for lying to Israeli citizens about alleged non-existence of borders, for bullsh*tting to them about Arabs attacking Israel in 1948, for crapping on about alleged UN bias, for brainwashing Israelis in order to justify their vile, stupid and illegal drive towards a Greater Israel.

        You’re whining to the wrong people hophmi…

      • talknic
        July 11, 2014, 12:32 pm

        @ hophmi “Well, Annie, when you have to run into a bomb shelter every year because the same people are trying to kill you by throwing missiles into your town, we’ll see if this is still your reaction”

        Gazans haven’t been allowed the materials to build bomb shelters to run to. They certainly don’t have any defense against Israeli missiles, warplanes, war ships, drones et al

        Try to answer this honestly: What would you do if, after being given completely gratis more than half your territory for a state that state then illegally dispossessed you, razed your home, farm or village, illegally acquiring by war, illegal annexation, illegal settlements and illegal facts on the ground a further 50% of what had remained of your rightful territory?

        “You live in California in North America. You’re very privileged not to be involved in any ethnic conflict”

        It’s a territorial conflict hophmi … Ziocolonistas don’t care what ethnicity people are

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 12:59 pm

        “Gazans haven’t been allowed the materials to build bomb shelters to run to. They certainly don’t have any defense against Israeli missiles, warplanes, war ships, drones et al”

        All the more reason they shouldn’t be lobbing missiles into Israeli civilian areas. What do they expect will happen? Perhaps this is exactly what they expect. Perhaps Hamas understands that nothing sells the Palestinian cause like dead Palestinians, and that the world will ultimately choose to support dead people over people trying to keep their civilians from being dead. I mean, you’re always around here that what Israel lacks is dead civilians. So many less dead civilians in Israel; it’s unfair, says you. It’s lopsided. When Israel loses a few thousand people, THEN we’ll concede it has a point.

        “What would you do if, after being given completely gratis more than half your territory for a state that state then illegally dispossessed you, razed your home, farm or village, illegally acquiring by war, illegal annexation, illegal settlements and illegal facts on the ground a further 50% of what had remained of your rightful territory?”

        Although I do not accept all of your historical assumptions here (the Palestinians did not attack the Ottomans or their feudal landlords before the Jews arrived), I’d be upset. I’ve never said otherwise. Would I support people lobbing rockets over the border? I doubt it. Not when it becomes clear that the rockets accomplish nothing and just get a lot of people killed on my own side. And I think most Palestinians in Gaza probably think similarly at this point, which is why Hamas popularity is on the wane.

        “It’s a territorial conflict”

        That’s what I’ve always maintained. You seem to think it’s a colonialist conflict. That I do not agree with.

      • talknic
        July 11, 2014, 2:33 pm

        @ hophmi ” I mean, you’re always around here that what Israel lacks is dead civilians. So many less dead civilians in Israel; it’s unfair, says you. “

        That’d be says you hophmi. I’ve never made any such claims. Making false accusations only shows YOUR deceitfullness. I asked for honesty. Seems you’re incapable!

      • hophmi
        July 11, 2014, 2:52 pm

        “That’d be says you hophmi. I’ve never made any such claims. Making false accusations only shows YOUR deceitfullness. I asked for honesty. Seems you’re incapable!”

        I wasn’t addressing you specifically. I think you can acknowledge that it’s common to argue that the conflict is unequal because the casualties are much higher on the Palestinian side.

      • NoMoreIsrael
        July 12, 2014, 9:35 am

        Israelis are running to bomb shelters because they ethnically cleansed 750,000 people from their homes and are currently murdering Palestinians, blowing up their houses and attacking their hospitals. They do this, because they consider Arabs subhuman. Their leaders from the very beginning, referred to Arabs as subhuman. So Israelis are not today voicing anti-Arab racism because of terrorism or rocket attacks. They are voicing these attitudes because their ideology causes them to hold murderous hatred for anyone who is a non-Jew. It has absolutely nothing to do with rocket attacks from Gaza. Zero.

      • Eva Smagacz
        July 11, 2014, 5:38 pm

        Hopmi, you said “All the more reason they shouldn’t be lobbing missiles into Israeli civilian areas.”

        You are aware, are you not, that IDF headquarters are in the middle of Tel Aviv residential district?

        If you don’t want resistance to shoot in general direction of your army posts, allow them some guided missiles, to improve their aim.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:37 pm

        Eva, every time Hophmi disgusts us with his racism, rationalizations, evasions and outright mendacity, he thinks he has struck a blow for Zionism. His intent is to demonstrate that Zionists are impossible to live with, don’t have the same feelings as others, and can’t be trusted. And for this they should be rewarded with a country, complete with designated helots.

    • Shingo
      July 11, 2014, 5:21 am

      we must note that these opinions from arsim and frechot don’t represent the vast majority of Israelis and Zionist Jews.

      How do you know? Has there been a poll to support your claim? Are you referring to Zonist Jews in Israel or worldwide?

      Also, these tweets come after a national tragedy, and all Israeli teens feel targeted by terrorists; they rightly think “it could have been me”, referring to Eyal, Gilad and Naftali (Z”L).

      Isn’t it lovely how every time Zionists are confronted with embarrassing revelations like these, all of a sudden the kid gloves come on and context, nuance and circumstance suddenly becomes all important? It reminds me of the clichéd ending to action flicks when the bad guy is pointing the gun at the hero and chuckling as he explains his plans, then the hero disarms him and turns the gun on him and all of a sudden, the villain in begging for reason and can’t we make a deal?

      Palestinians live under national tragedies of far greater proportions and far more often, and yet all we hear from you Israeli propagandists is how they have an irrational hatred of Jews, how they are teaching their children to hate and that all this would be over if only they accepted Israel?

      Palestinians too get shocked and angry, and they make inflammatory statements, but their statements are carved in stone and held up permanently as representative of Palestinian culture.

      Also, we must note that teens tend to be more passionate and radical and less reasonable than adults

      Except that Israeli adults are the ones stirring up this hatred.

      Actually most of them don’t want to kill all Arabs. I’m pretty sure they are referring only to terrorists and their supporters, not children or loyal Israeli Arabs.

      Again you are basing this on what? Wishful thinking? The reason Netenyahu inflicted collective punishment on the West Bank and Gaza is because he knew it would win him approval from the Israeli public. Having known the boys were already dead and who the likely culprits were, he imposed a gag order on the media and lied to the public, as well as the parents of the boys, for 2 weeks. He then destroyed countless homes, arrested 500 Palestinians, killed a dozen.

      The public now knows this and they are not angry at him for being deceived. No, Netenyahu gave them an excuse to be more overt about their sadism and hatred, and they believe they now have an excuse to be open about it. They want blood.

      BTW, while I am pleased to hear you no longer hate Arabs, one has to wonder what made you hate them when you were younger. Children are not born to hate, they are taught to. Who taught you to hate?

      • Donald
        July 11, 2014, 7:42 am

        “Isn’t it lovely how every time Zionists are confronted with embarrassing revelations like these, all of a sudden the kid gloves come on and context, nuance and circumstance suddenly becomes all important?”

        Exactly.

        Incidentally, the NYT now has a front page article about the widespread hatred of Arabs among the Israeli youth. It quotes a lot of Israeli sources. So I guess this completes the vindication of Max Blumenthal, when even the NYT puts his thesis on the front page.

        NYT article on Israeli extremism

        The only thing slightly implausible about the story is the notion that this is something new. I don’t doubt it has gotten worse since the 2nd intifada for the reasons given–also, I gather there used to be more interaction between Israelis and Palestinians, so that probably lowered the level of personal racism (not that it wasn’t still there–white racists I knew could be decent and friendly to blacks on a one-to-one level). But to think that there wasn’t always some of this hatred is silly, especially given the fact that there has always been bigotry within Israeli Jewish society, with the Jews of European descent looking down on the Jews from Arab countries. Plus, when one group has stepped on another, the act has to be rationalized and the easiest way to do that is to say that the victim deserved it.

        “BTW, while I am pleased to hear you no longer hate Arabs, one has to wonder what made you hate them when you were younger. Children are not born to hate, they are taught to. Who taught you to hate?”

        Yeah, exactly. I bring up my own life ad nauseam, but growing up in the South right after Jim Crow ended, I’d see letters to the editor denouncing busing for racial integration in schools. The letters were politely worded, arguing the virtues of children going to their neighborhood schools rather than being bussed many miles. Reasonable arguments. Then I’d go to school and from my classmates I’d hear opposition to busing expressed in terms of how much they hated “n***** “. Children pick these things up, even if adults know better than to be open about their feelings in public.

    • Sumud
      July 11, 2014, 5:26 am

      Why am I not surprised to find a zionist rationalising calls for genocide of Palestinians?

      You are technically right that these opinions are not held by a majority of Israelis, but they are also not incidental and so minor as to be dismissed with a “I’m pretty sure they are referring only to terrorists” when obviously this is not the case.

      I linked here to some truly alarming results of a survey of Israeli school children done in 2010. Lots of them feel the genocidal phrase “death to arabs” is a legitimate statement which they support.

    • Talkback
      July 11, 2014, 5:31 am

      Tell me, when you were young teens weren’t you more radical, passionate and less reasonable? Of course most of you were! I guess most of you were far-left.

      What do you mean by “far-left”? Not racist and genocidal like Nazis?

    • Taxi
      July 11, 2014, 5:34 am

      Palikari,

      “Look, when I was a young teen I hated Muslims; now I don’t. When you grow up you become much more reasonable and regret how stupid you were.”

      That god not everybody is like you!

      When I was young I hated racists and as an adult I hate racists even more.

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 5:50 am

        When I was young I hated racists and as an adult I hate racists even more.

        Me too. In fact, when I was young, I was fascinated by people of other races and always empathized with the underdog. My beloved late mother would have beaten any racism out of me had I expressed it. She and her family left South Africa because of apartheid, and my uncle was beaten for befriending black South Africans.

      • Mooser
        July 11, 2014, 6:33 pm

        “Me too. In fact, when I was young, I was fascinated by people of other races and always empathized with the underdog.”

        Bingo. I was, and am, exactly like that. Want to know the reason? It’s cause I’m Jewish

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 7:11 pm

        Bingo. I was, and am, exactly like that. Want to know the reason? It’s cause I’m Jewish

        I am technically Jewish but never raised Jewish. I found out after my grandmother passed away that she was Jewish, at least in terms of lineage. Still, I doubt that my rejection of racism is a consequence.

    • eljay
      July 11, 2014, 8:22 am

      >> When you grow up you become much more reasonable and regret how stupid you were.

      It’s a shame that more young Zio-supremacists don’t grow up to become much more reasonable and regret how stupid they were.

      Instead, it seems most of them double-down on their supremacism, their sense of entitlement and their hatred of non-Jews, and on all the injustices, immorality and general ugliness these things engender.

  28. Daniel Rich
    July 11, 2014, 5:00 am

    Is that the granddaughter of Golda Mabovitch Meir in one of those pictures?

  29. hophmi
    July 11, 2014, 10:48 am

    This one is from the page of one of the teens Sheen shamed.

    @OrelPery WHY HITLER!!! WHY… WHY DIDN'T KILL ALL THE JEWS??? @Menantum @davidsheen— Rusiti Nusret (@zet_ova) July 11, 2014

    Another:

    @Menantum @OrelPery @davidsheen Hi zio hoe . I wish you racist scum die soon— Bosnian on Tour (@StopNWO_BiH) July 11, 2014

    Another:

    @davidsheen @MissMukhabarat @OrelPery I wish a double painful death to jews.— Muhammad Kashif (@mcashiph) July 10, 2014

    • Sumud
      July 11, 2014, 11:11 am

      Poor hophmi you have a seriously bad case of writer’s block.

      Gazans being slaughtered by the dozen by your beloved IDF and the best you can come up with is “look at these people who hate jews”…

      • DaBakr
        July 11, 2014, 2:47 pm

        @sumd
        um-the point of the whole article by Sheen was to show how ‘exceptional’ Israeli teens are tweeting stupid racist stuff and now when hop links an equally offensive tweet by a Muslim your all “Stop deflecting, Stop deflecting!!” Lesson? nobody is special or different…dope

      • Shingo
        July 11, 2014, 10:41 pm

        um-the point of the whole article by Sheen was to show how ‘exceptional’ Israeli teens are tweeting stupid racist stuff and now when hop links an equally offensive tweet by a Muslim your all “Stop deflecting, Stop deflecting!!”

        Hop is the one deflecting. Of all the links he could dig up in the last 24 hours, only 2 or 3 came from Palestinians dufus.

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