Garland nomination is moment of humble reflection for US Jews

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Woodrow Wilson was a bastard when it came to black people but he put the first Jew on the Supreme Court, 100 years ago. It is said that Justice Louis Brandeis’s famous conversion to Zionism in 1912 came about because Wilson planned to nominate him but needed a representative Jew, and all the Eastern European Jews who had come to New York were Zionists.

Since then there have been seven other Jews on the Supreme Court per Wikipedia: Cardozo, Frankfurter, Goldberg Fortas and the three who are on there now, Ginsburg, Breyer and Kagan. Two others have been nominated to the Supreme Court, Douglas Ginsburg and Merrick Garland. Ginsburg withdrew after it came out that he had smoked weed; Merrick Garland is of course President Obama’s nominee of this week, who faces an uphill battle in an election year. At his unveiling, Garland referenced his ancestors who fled anti-semitic persecution in Europe.

What do these numbers tell us about the Jewish place in America? A hundred years ago it required a real expenditure of political capital (by a racist) to nominate a Jewish justice. Today it’s not just old hat, but Jews are the liberal establishment in Washington. If Garland is confirmed, four  out of five justices named by Democrats will be Jewish. That’s a lot. There have been only two black Supreme Court justices. And one Hispanic.

I knew Merrick Garland a little bit at the Harvard College newspaper in the 70s (guess what, he had judicial temperament, I didn’t; but he couldn’t write this article if his hair was on fire). I sought out the Jewish club of the newspaper in part because I believed anti-Semitism was regnant in America and at Harvard, and so did Alan Dershowitz: he threatened to leave the Harvard Law faculty in the early 70s unless it finally got a Jewish dean. Harvard did name a Jewish dean to the law school, and there have been several Jewish deans and presidents since. Now it’s ho-hum.

Again, the Garland nomination is a reminder that Jews are the blue state establishment. In fact, Garland is seen as the safe pick over various ethnic-er picks that Obama could have made– notably Sri Srinivasan.

And speaking of the establishment, it was said that Wilson was trying to shore up the allies’ claims on Jewish financiers in the First World War when he approved the Balfour Declaration, a year after he nominated Brandeis, and committed the U.S. to Zionism.

Oy what an error. From Brandeis to Garland, our presence in the most exclusive corridors of the power structure should tell Jews that our place in the west is safe; we don’t need so-called Jewish sovereignty in another country halfway around the world that is more than half non-Jewish anyway, though most of them don’t have any rights, can’t even vote, to be safe. No, we need to celebrate the freedom a democracy grants to minorities.

Power is a fluid thing in society, I reflected yesterday as I looked out of a window at the National Press Club at the slate roof of Treasury during the annual Israel influence conference. Scholar Kirk James Beattie had just finished up a discussion of his study showing that legislative staffers fear the Israel lobby but have never been visited by the “oil lobby.” American Jews have real social/political power in this moment in American life. It’s about time we broadly acknowledged this fact, with humility, and praise.

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  1. Steve Grover
    March 19, 2016, 2:35 pm

    What Weiss has not told you the Mondoweiss fan is that Garland has more in common with Michael Mukasey than Elena Kagan from a judicial philosophy perspective. Garland would be a nominee by a Republican President if the majority of the Senate were democrats. The reason Obama chose Garland is because he should be a “shoe in” for confirmation. Since Mitch McConnell dug in his heels and and doesn’t want the Senate to even hold hearings, Obama realized that States with more liberal Republicans Senators like Illinois might lose their seats as a result of McConnell’s strategy. This is the only reason for Garland’s nomination by this President.

    • Krauss
      March 20, 2016, 7:31 am

      The reason Obama chose Garland is because he should be a “shoe in” for confirmation.

      It was telling that during Totenberg’s interview, she referred to him as “another white guy”. This is the melding of the establishment. It’s why Lena Dunham caught hell in 2010 over Girls, because her explanation that half her staff was Jewish(as in, they are minority) didn’t satisfy anyone. It was a telling moment.

      It’s why Friends, the sitcom, is now being attacked as being too white and romantic about it when it is re-running, even if it had a mostly Jewish writing staff and several Jews as actors.

      You don’t get to these positions in the establishment without significant assimilation. Garland’s nomination may be a big moment for older Jews, those closer to 60 and above, but for the rest of America, the younger and more diverse America, they ask: what is the difference?

      I was reading through a lot of legal philosophy lately and of course there are plenty of Jews represented in those rankings of who is most cited etc. When I read their jurisprudence, the Posner/Dworkin/Eisenstein and the others, we’re dealing with a moderate technocratic elite. Yes, they are different from a firebreather like Scalia, but there was precious little on race and issues such as those.

      It was mostly about the environment, the proper role of government and more arcane technicalities. That relaxed approach also suggests that a community is assimilated, else more pressing concerns would resurface.

      • Steve Grover
        March 20, 2016, 1:56 pm

        You get into these positions Krauss by your scholarship and your ability to reason. He was passed up twice by less experienced jurists when Kagan and Sotomayor were nominated. This nomination is to cause the Republicans to lose seats in the Senate.

    • kalithea
      March 20, 2016, 6:54 pm

      @SG

      So basically what you’re saying is that it’s not enough that Obama already put a Jewish justice on the Court. And you’re not satisfied that there are already 3 Jewish justices on the Court.

      So then you want the whole court to be Jewish and especially Zionist or you’ll be bitchin’ and whining here.

      • hophmi
        March 20, 2016, 10:13 pm

        Kalithea responds as a white supremacist would.

      • Steve Grover
        March 20, 2016, 11:37 pm

        kalithea,

        I second hophmi’s view of your comment.

        I am very happy with Garland’s nomination. We grew up in the same neighborhood. He is centrist to slightly conservative and therefore nowhere near a first choice for Obama. If the current political environment with the U.S. Senate didn’t exist Garland wouldn’t be nominated to SCOTUS. Since, the vast majority of the legal experts view him as an excellent choice for SCOTUS and the Senate keeps saying that they won’t confirm or even hold hearings it is likely he won’t make it to the court. The republican Senator from Illinois who is up for re-election is urging the Senate to confirm Garland. I hope Senator Kirk doesn’t pay the price for the Senate’s intransigence of not confirming any Obama nominee. As I said Garland is a nominee that a Republican President might make.

        Since I don’t speak the language of Israel/Jew hatred you might not understand this.

      • Citizen
        March 22, 2016, 2:53 am

        So, is it a white supremacist world when the goys do Jewish geography? But when the Jews do it, it’s just common sense or natural pride? What gives? Incidentally, I read a string of tweets where Phil is ridiculed for his belief Jews are an integral part of the US Establishment and his belief Jews are not in dire danger here. Too, tweets that read Mondoweiss is an anti-semitic web site abound as a response to a tweet citing Mondoweiss.

  2. Herchel
    March 19, 2016, 4:08 pm

    our presence in the most exclusive corridors of the power structure should tell Jews that our place in the west is safe; we don’t need so-called Jewish sovereignty in another country halfway around the world that is more than half non-Jewish anyway, though most of them don’t have any rights, can’t even vote, to be safe.
    —–
    “Our presence” “our?” Really? it is astonishing that someone can make every effort to distance themselves from their heritage and thier people… except of course when they need to count themselves among the group they are criticizing in a desperate attempt to gain credibility in the eyes of their readership.

    “Jews are doing well in America therefore Israel isn’t needed. ” If that is the type of logic they taught at Harvard, I would demand my money back if I were you! one has nothing to do with the other. Jews were already doing quite well in America in the 30s and 40s… What bit of difference did that make with how they were treated overseas?

    • Mooser
      March 19, 2016, 6:43 pm

      “Jews were already doing quite well in America in the 30s and 40s…”

      What are you, some kind of capo? Well, you’re kneckin’ the wrong fret, “Herchel” Life in the US has been a disaster for Judaism! From the very first Jews which arrived in the New World, the entire effort was antisemitic:

      1)A huge continent, North and South America, and not even one acre set aside for Jews! Virgins get two, but we get nothing! Would it have been so hard to call it “New Jewsy”? I ask you.
      2) No recognition of Jews as a people! Nowhere, in the entire continent.
      3) The American Establishment has made no place for the Jewish religion. They will tolerate individual Jews, but not the Jewish people!
      4) No protection for Jews! No Jew, no matter how old, no matter how disabled, no matter how poor, it doesn’t matter, Jews are completely unprotected in the US.
      5) The US Government (A broch tzu Columbus!) does not recognize any Jewish community rights, and refuses to, no, even worse, legislates against Jewish marriage laws!
      That makes them accomplices in the Silent Holocaust.

      And you see the harvest, Herchel!

      • Herchel
        March 20, 2016, 12:15 am

        if America was a tiny nation surrounded by blood thirsty maniacs whose goal in life is to kill as many Jews as possible, your analogy would be compelling. But in reality, it just gives us a glimpse into the distorted reality In which you live. I’m sorry you were dropped on your head as a child.

      • Marnie
        March 20, 2016, 8:57 am

        Oh yes, israel is a tiny, teeny insignificant sand pit surrounded by blood-thirsty maniacs! I can see them from my living room! I’m sorry for us that you were so overindulged in your childhood that you didn’t grow up at all. But at least it’s given us a glimpse into your distorted reality.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 12:24 pm

        “a tiny nation surronded by blood thirsty maniacs whose goal in life is to kill as many Jews as possible”

        Gosh, darn it “Herchel”! Isn’t that the way it goes? This could only happen to us! Who else, I ask you, who else get stuck with a situation like this?

        There it sits, our hysterical homeland, surrounded by “blood thirsty maniacs whose goal in life is to kill as many Jews as possible”! How the hell did that happen? Has any people ever been so unlucky?

      • eljay
        March 20, 2016, 1:16 pm

        || Herchel: if America was a tiny nation surrounded by blood thirsty maniacs whose goal in life is to kill as many Jews as possible … ||

        And that’s today’s aggressor-victimhood lesson on Israel by Perfesser Herchel.

        Tune in tomorrow to hear the Perfesser explain how Israel:
        – is entitled to exist as a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” occupying as much as possible of Palestine;
        – is a nuclear-armed powerhouse of a nation that doesn’t need anybody’s help to survive; and
        – is the only truly safe place in the world for all Jewish people.

      • MHughes976
        March 20, 2016, 5:06 pm

        The standard portrayal of American colonists as tiny in numbers and surrounded by bloodthirsty maniacal hordes of ‘Red Indians’ is indeed familiar. Tiny in numbers but mighty in firepower and in religious conviction.
        If the Martians land on Earth and take some of it, not a lot but as much as they need, excluding earthlings with their Ray-gun techmology to the extent they require, that would surely cause some resentment which would pass beyond the limits of calm calculation, so acquiring an edge that could be called unreasonable and maniacal don’t you think? The calmly calculating, restricted nature of the ‘tiny’ Martian appropriation would not make them any less odious.
        Mind you, I am astonished that references to Israel’s neighbours in these screamingly offensive terms is permitted by the moderators.

    • Mooser
      March 19, 2016, 7:02 pm

      “every effort to distance themselves from their heritage and thier people… “

      Don’t even start that with me! Bonds of steel baby! My and ‘the community’ are , like, down with each other.
      I’ve got a copy of my bris certificate, and my Mom’s hibachi (or whatever Shmuel said it was. Anyway, gotta have one if you’re gonna be glat!) and a letter from a Rabbi. Okay, at the time, he was a Rabbi, maybe today she’s not, but that doesn’t count Dude, I got stuff from my freakin’ Bar Mitzvah, like embossed matchbooks, and a couple of the complimentary commemorative yarmulkes I saved. “Derbig Mooser, April 1966” they say and then something in Hebrew which is either a brocha or the address of a defrocked CPA.

      • James North
        March 19, 2016, 7:12 pm

        Moose: I too have embossed yarmulkes from friends’ bar mitzvahs! From 1965!

      • Mooser
        March 19, 2016, 7:37 pm

        “Moose: I too have embossed yarmulkes from friends’ bar mitzvahs! From 1965!”

        Have you seen what Judaica like that goes for on E-bay!?

        My so-called ‘friends’ poked some holes in the top of mine “so your antlers can go over them” or some shit. Teens can be so cruel about stuff like that.

        Anyway, do you know a good defrocked CPA? My finances are a mess. I’ve lost so much I need a man with nothing to lose to figure it out.

      • gamal
        March 19, 2016, 7:37 pm

        “Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei”

        “Bonds of steel baby!”

        Mooser you may be the baddest Jew, hope I am not out of line here, just a lonely guy from out of town, but you wanna try for one state or you still hung up on two.

      • Mooser
        March 19, 2016, 9:24 pm

        ” but you wanna try for one state or you still hung up on two.”

        Zionism? I’ve always believed fervently in the no-state solution.

        “Have you seen what Judaica like that goes for on E-bay!?”

        My Art Swoger Bar Mitzvah photos are not for sale!

      • YoniFalic
        March 20, 2016, 2:32 pm

        “Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei”

        is Germanizing.

        Better is:

        פּאַטש זיך אין תחת און שרייַ

        “Patsh zikh in tokhes un shray.

        The word “und” for “and” is German.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 4:52 pm

        “Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei” is Germanizing.”

        So nue, so Sioux!

    • kalithea
      March 20, 2016, 8:58 pm

      Jews were already doing quite well in America in the 30s and 40s… What bit of difference did that make with how they were treated overseas? –

      How disingenuous to compare then with now; and how pitiful that you have to milk the Holocaust to make a false point about the present.

      Jews are not only doing well in America today; they’re doing very well in: Canada, U.K. France, Australia, South Africa and on and on just about everywhere Jews reside.

      There’s no excuse for your bullshit.

      The only threat to Jews today is the Zionism you preach.

      • hophmi
        March 21, 2016, 10:47 am

        Jews are doing “very well” in France, where they’re the victims of hundreds of violent attacks every year.

      • eljay
        March 21, 2016, 11:08 am

        || hophmi: Jews are doing “very well” in France, where they’re the victims of hundreds of violent attacks every year. ||

        Homosexuals are doing “very well” in France, too, where anti-gay attacks are up 78%.

        Acts of injustice and immorality committed against homosexuals or Jews:
        – do not justify acts of injustice and immorality committed by homosexuals or Jews; and
        – do not entitle homosexuals or Jews to a state (and especially not to a supremacist state of any kind).

      • Bumblebye
        March 21, 2016, 12:13 pm

        So, off I toddled to my friend Google

        http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/328972/anti-semitic-incidents-explode-in-france-report/

        which tells me figs for 2014 of 851 *incidents* of anti-semitism

        then it tells me that 51% of “bias-motivated violent acts” in 2014 were anti-semitism – but, and I find this odd, fails completely to say how many such violent act there were! Could, therefore, be as low as a few score.

        C’mon, hophmi – where did you get your guesstimate from?

      • oldgeezer
        March 21, 2016, 12:42 pm

        @hophmi/Bumblebye

        Hoppy did his usual stick head up ass and pull numbers out by teeth trick.

        http://www.antisemitisme.fr/dl/2014-EN.pdf

      • MHughes976
        March 21, 2016, 1:46 pm

        Relevant figures are difficult to compare but when I tried to compare figures for homocide, which are less open to differences of definition than others, provided by the Community Security Trust for the UK with our general crime figures I became convinced that if we know that Mr.X is British of undetermined racial background and that Mr.Y is British and Jewish we have greater fear for the life of Mr.X. (Risk of homicide is about the same in Israel and in Western Europe.) The hope for success and prosperity – doing well – is greater for Mr.Y than for Mr.X. I think it is to the credit of all concerned and reflects important and stable features of our societies.

      • Mooser
        March 21, 2016, 3:51 pm

        “Jews are doing “very well” in France, where they’re the victims of hundreds of violent attacks every year.”

        Ces’t la vie!

      • Keith
        March 21, 2016, 5:21 pm

        HOPHMI- “Jews are doing “very well” in France, where they’re the victims of hundreds of violent attacks every year.”

        Only hundreds in a nation of 66 million? I would have thought that it would be higher. Any data comparing the homicide rate for Jews versus non-Jews? Assaults on Jews versus non-Jews? And don’t start with that bogus ADL hate crime crapola.

      • yonah fredman
        March 21, 2016, 7:15 pm

        Mr. Hughes, greetings.

        Statistical analyses are surely useful for a bird’s eye view. How much did Charlie hebdo and this past November effect the homicide rate in france, but surely you are not saying that a bird’s eye view of France would describe the facts in any useful degree, unless your name is mister spock. Let us at least admit that there are other relevant perspectives. Surely the Jewish reaction to the hyper cacher store (the superfluous coda to the charlie hebdo murders) led to a reaction unrelated to statistics, appropriately appalled. They do not need actuarial tables to set them straight.

      • Mooser
        March 21, 2016, 7:39 pm

        “They do not need actuarial tables to set them straight.”

        No, they are still able to drown out “Hatikvah” with “The Marseilles” right to Netanyahoo’s face.

      • Keith
        March 21, 2016, 10:12 pm

        YONAH FREDMAN- “They do not need actuarial tables to set them straight.”

        Yes they do. Hophmi’s reference to violent attacks against Jews needs to be evaluated in relation to the relative level of violence against other groups. If Jews are, in fact, safer than non-Jews, continued pissing and moaning about violence against Jews is fundamentally dishonest and indicative of an extreme Judeo-centric perspective. And if it turns out that Jews are safer in France than in Israel, what would that suggest to an open minded person? When empirical reality is your enemy, you are the problem!

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 12:24 am

        Keith, I will trace the conversation to try to determine again, this time slowly and logically whether the role of actuarial tables is deteminitive as you assert. Phil asserted the mainstreaming of jews into the elites as proof that zionism is not relevant to an American jew today. Some guy wrote, but no sir, jews were already doing quite well in America in the 30’s and 40’s, and you see how little that meant outside of america’s borders. Then kalithea wrote Jews are doing well in a whole bunch of countries, in which she included france. and hopi, said, whoa, France is a bit iffy for jews these days and m Hughes wrote, things, as measured by income and murder rates are going fine for jews in england. Which come to think of it proves nothing regarding france. But I asserted that there is a human factor that statistics do not reveal and then Keith said, if the statistics regarding homicides and income do not back up your so called fears then you are just a bunch of self centered cry babies. Now that I have summarized I wish to add only this: the blithe inclusion of France and jews doing well begged for comment. I do not know how many minutes of the average day the average jew feels alienated to the point of fear and how many headlines or comments the fear or alienation of the average jew un france warrants to measure up to accuracy and how much is just coddling a cry baby, but I do know that a blithe la-di-da inclusion of France on that list was begging for comment and the beg was answered and backing up kalithea’s assertion re France with actuarial tables from England is truly an exercise in screaming at Zionists and you enjoy screaming at Zionists
        a lot of you do.

      • MHughes976
        March 22, 2016, 5:22 am

        And greetings to you too, Mr.Fredman! I admit to thinking that rational and statistical considerations should be very important. I accept that people can think that ‘there’s something not right’ whatever the apparent evidence but it’s bad if feelings of mistrust are encouraged – and encouraged some more – by subjective processes. I do not claim to be very good at statistics, even with reference to the UK where I live, and certainly stand to be corrected. Just to add that I think Britain and France are reasonably similar societies – but maybe someone can show that there is a relevant problem specific to France. I also think that Nazi Germany was in very many ways an extremely unusual society.

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 5:52 am

        MHughes- from the vantage point of america on a day when another i assume islamic terrorist attack has happened on the continent that your island is associated with, i can only say that hopmi and I (if i may include him in content that he has not approved of) are talking about the dynamic of the arab populations of europe rather than the dynamic of white europe.

        i just read houlbecq’s “submission”. not a major book, but still, when the professor who has to adjust to the takeover of the sorbonne by the muslim brotherhood’s french candidate who gets into office and must then adjust to the idea of converting to islam in order to join the elite new society dictated by saudi arabia and other noneuropean interests, so maybe my view has been tainted by fiction. there is a character: miriam who is jewish and who moves to israel in reaction to the new regime.

        i don’t know what the numbers are regarding jews of france moving to israel, but i wonder on a morning like today when islamic terrorism strikes again, does a different chill go down a jew’s back on a day like today, knowing that for every charlie hebdo, some dope with a gun might think that he has to show solidarity by killing some jews in a kosher grocery.

        i don’t know how much weight one should give to one’s reading of fiction or focusing on a specific event.

        but i do know that if someone is going to list how well the jews are doing in nonamerican nonisraeli countries in 2016, the casual off the cuff mention of france is really asking for some rebuttal by those of us who are focused on the events and the mindset that i mentioned and these events have nothing to do with white europe and everything to do with Arab populations in Europe.

      • echinococcus
        March 22, 2016, 6:04 am

        Mister Fredman,

        Setting aside statistics, which you so obviously don’t understand, what kind of brain would think that one can, for decades on end, claim to represent all of a non-existent “Jewish people”, practice invasion, racial supremacist dictatorship, genocide and war of aggression, directly or by proxy, get an iron grip on the government of France to the point of banning any discussion of WWII and even peaceful consumer boycott and direct government participation in Zionist aggression, and in the face of all that not experience any reaction at all? Only a Ziowashed brain.

        Also, if you want any claim of “antisemitism” discussed, you’ll have to bring, for each case, absolutely watertight proof that there was no connection at all to Zionism or even the perception of Zionism.

      • bryan
        March 22, 2016, 6:39 am

        Mr Fredman: “I do not know how many minutes of the average day the average (J)ew feels alienated to the point of fear.”

        I suspect you could universalise and emphasize this point far more strongly: “I do not know how many minutes of the average day, in countries throughout the world, millions of people of all descriptions, young, old, male, female, unemployed and in work, fit as well as those disabled or sick or troubled, from majority communities and from a host of minorities, feel alienated or threatened or unvalued, and concerned about their well-being and that of their families and neighbours, and sometimes fear for their own safety and survival.

        Why do some contributors, so consistently reduce any topic to “counting Jews”. You may not have been the first to raise the subject, but the essential point is that in this day and age Jews are not exceptional, and racism, bigotry, intolerance, not to mention the brutal realities of modern life, create many victims, who have few resources, in the community, the media, academia and government to provide them with the succour and support and protection they need.

      • MHughes976
        March 22, 2016, 12:43 pm

        The violence of the ME is certainly spilling over into Europe, as you say, Yonah, and is bound to reach the UK again (previously in 05) soon. All utterly sickening. However, bombs at airports and metro stations do not discriminate against people who are Jewish. Being ‘Western’ seems to be the main qualification for being slaughtered. Perhaps this is something to do with having a white skin, having a Christian tradition or something like that. However, there will certainly be many whose skin colour is different among the victims and probably many Muslims. They deserve some special commiseration in that this is done to them in the name of their own religion and in that their personal religious beliefs are being travestied.
        But I don’t think there’s any indication here that Euro society is making the position of its Jewish citizens insecure.

      • gamal
        March 22, 2016, 1:40 pm

        “The violence of the ME is certainly spilling over into Europe,”

        A Europe that has been nothing more than an innocent bystander to all this violence in the middle east.

        ” Perhaps this is something to do with having a white skin, having a Christian tradition or something like that.”

        or perhaps not.

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 7:19 pm

        MHughes- All of Europe, I am guessing, feel a bit insecure when ISIS attacks the Brussels subway and airport. but Jews who will attend synagogue in europe this week and this Shabbat will have a reason to feel more insecure. It is a fact that there were attacks on the hyper cacher supermarket in Paris in the aftermath of Charlie Hebdo and there was a murderous attack on a Danish synagogue in the aftermath of the attempted killing of a Danish cartoonist. (And there was an attack on the Mumbai Chabad house included as two for the price of one involved in the attack on Mumbai.) Islamic terrorists attack western targets and sometimes have a special warm spot in their heart to use the passion of the moment to attack Jewish targets. These are the facts.

      • Mooser
        March 22, 2016, 8:29 pm

        “I do not know how many minutes of the average day the average (J)ew feels alienated to the point of fear.”

        Shorter “Yonah”: ‘If you don’t think the illusory or imagined fears of Jews are a good enough reason to keep on killing Palestinians, you’re an antisemitic Anti-Semite’

        But keep that scribenzi furiouso coming, “Yonah”!

      • Mooser
        March 22, 2016, 8:36 pm

        ,” i just read houlbecq’s “submission”. not a major book, but still, when the professor who has to adjust to the takeover of the sorbonne by the muslim brotherhood’s french candidate who gets into office and must then adjust to the idea of converting to islam in order to join the elite new society dictated by saudi arabia and other noneuropean interests, so maybe my view has been tainted by fiction. there is a character: miriam who is jewish and who moves to israel in reaction to the new regime.” “Yonah’s” Book Review of Hot Zionist Literature.

        Zio-porn fiction! What a publishing concept! Just imagine “Yonah’s” lascivious palpitations when he read of the lovely Mirian’s narrow escape from purdah

        “So maybe my view has been tainted by fiction”

        D’oh! Ya’ think? A whole lotta fiction, maybe?

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 9:58 pm

        Mooser- I am willing to call Ben Gurion zionism evil and amoral. I do not call Arendt and Einstein’s zionism as immoral. I am too influenced by my environment and thus to reject the expulsion and the labeling of refugees who wanted to return, to label them infiltrators is wrong and something I assent to out of moral weakness. The world owes the yehudim nothing other than fairness. It is a diverse world and one of its flavors is yid.

        Most of my responses here and elsewhere are slanted to adjust to the arguments that are to the right of my natural rational position. Undo the nakba, but of course, the nakba was cruel and undoing cruelty is on a good to-do list. But to even my one far left cousin, this is a nonstarter and he too sees one state as equivalent to disaster and I really lack the self righteousness to out flank this cousin to the left, so tho I can say the words, the nakba was evil, I cannot say the words, there must be a right of return. I just can’t say them.

      • Mooser
        March 23, 2016, 11:18 am

        ,” I cannot say the words, there must be a right of return. I just can’t say them.”

        Of course not. I’ll bet a half a C-note to Mondo you can’t even say “please” or “thank you” either. You are a moral infant. Too bad.

        If you actually had to take responsibility, even verbally for anything you would probably have an infarction.
        Nobody wants to see that.

  3. Keith
    March 19, 2016, 4:57 pm

    PHIL- “…Jews are the liberal establishment in Washington. If Garland is confirmed, four out of five justices named by Democrats will be Jewish.”

    Any ideas as to why Jews would so disproportionately represented in the imperial elite? Meritocracy, perhaps? Has Israel and Zionism played any role in this?

    PHIL- “At his unveiling, Garland referenced his ancestors who fled anti-semitic persecution in Europe.”

    Why is this relevant? Why would he do this? A member of the ruling elite claiming victimhood? How strange.

    PHIL- “…we don’t need so-called Jewish sovereignty in another country halfway around the world….”

    Ah, Jews no longer need the benefit of Judeo-Zionist “kinship” to break into the non-Jewish oligarchy, from now on normal class rigidity should suffice, hence, time to transition to a post-Zionist form of “Jewishness”?

    PS- A quote and link to provide some additional perspective on Judge Garland.

    “Obama has decided that, to fill Scalia’s vacant seat for radicals on the Supreme Court the country needs another former partner of a Wall Street law firm, turned prosecutor, and then appellate judge. Another judge obscures the highly political work of the contemporary Supreme Court beneath a veneer of technocratic competence. Just the opposite is required at this time.” (Rob Hager) https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2016/03/17/the-scotus-quandary-by-rob-hager/#more-177787

    • Keith
      March 20, 2016, 3:46 pm

      PHIL- “No, we need to celebrate the freedom a democracy grants to minorities.”

      Yes, the ruling elite are a minority of the population and they do have considerable freedom, however, I would hardly categorize the astonishing power-seeking success of organized American Jewry as some sort of victory for minorities in a democracy. Rather, it appears to me that what has transpired more resembles the Judaization of the imperial elite, hardly a victory for the non-Jewish minorities in the age of neoliberalism.

      PHIL- “Power is a fluid thing in society….”

      Yes, and that is why organized American Jewry devotes so many resources to acquiring and maintaining Jewish power. From the mission statement of the Conference of the Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations: “…the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations Fund advances the interests of the American Jewish community, sustains broad-based support for Israel and addresses the critical concerns facing world Jewry.” http://www.conferenceofpresidents.org/about Tribal solidarity, pure and simple.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 4:07 pm

        “I would hardly categorize the astonishing power-seeking success of organized American Jewry as some sort of victory for minorities in a democracy.”

        Well, a person could do that, unless there was some categorical differences between Jews and the other un-named “minorities” which makes the comparison invalid. Can you think of what it might be? I mean, hasn’t the struggle been the same for all “minorities” in the US?

      • hophmi
        March 21, 2016, 10:46 am

        “Tribal solidarity, pure and simple.”

        Right, because Jews are almost tolerable as individuals, but if, G-d forbid, they organize in any way…

      • Keith
        March 21, 2016, 2:22 pm

        HOPHMI- “Right, because Jews are almost tolerable as individuals, but if, G-d forbid, they organize in any way…”

        I’ll let the “almost tolerable” slide for the moment. Tell me, sport, how would you feel about a Council of Presidents of Major Gentile Organizations whose mission was to “advance the interests of the American Gentile community, sustain broad-based support for Gentile solidarity and address the critical concerns facing world Gentiles.”? Sound good to you?

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 5:43 am

        keith- i thought about your presidents of major gentile organizations quip. some reactions: 1. the majority does not have the same need to organize as a group as a minority might. I do not oppose the existence of a Black caucus, and I see the germ of the idea of Jewish organizations in the vein of a minority trying to help itself in the political and social struggles involved in a society moving from one continent to another. of course i am formed by my life in new york city where ethnics claiming their piece of the pie, their spot on the ethnically diverse ticket, where urban jews had to fight for their share of the pie, their right to call themselves americans, which is no longer a problem, but was in the first half of the immigrant experience. so for the jews to organize themselves as a group makes historical sense.

        whether those groups in the major conference of jewish organizations really have anything to rally behind today other than Israel, is questionable and it is likely that the anti zionist naturally will be attracted to pummeling the jewish clannishness and urge to organize politically, when there really is nothing standing in the way of Jewish mainstreaming. i do not know where 20 and 30 year old jews are going to associate with these organizations, particularly if their sole focus is Israel and Israel will be increasingly a generational divide and a cultural divide between those raised with the religion and those raised basically without it (once a month jews, let alone real shabbos jews versus two days a year jews).

      • Keith
        March 22, 2016, 11:49 am

        YONAH FREDMAN- “1. the majority does not have the same need to organize as a group as a minority might.”

        Certainly, discriminated against and disadvantaged minorities should organize for self-protection. Does that description fit the Jews? When an elite group of capitalists organize based upon manufactured ethnicity in order to advance their group interests at the expense of the larger society, then you are talking about tribal sectarianism which is at odds with true multiculturalism. When a society breaks into various sub-groups each looking out for itself alone, that is called sectarianism and it is destructive. The “is it good for the Jews?” philosophy only works for the Jews as long as the rest of society behaves in a true multicultural fashion. In our multicultural society, non-Jews do not form some sort of monolithic organized group known as Gentiles. And if non-Jews suddenly found common cause in defensive solidarity against the Judaization of the imperial elite, what would you call that? As things now stand, I find the subservience of the imperial political elite to Israel, AIPAC, and Jewish oligarchs scary. Notions of “jealousy” hardly describe the feeling of waking up in some sort of Franz Kafka tale of woe.

        Currently, Israel is the symbolic center of the Zionist ideology which unites the various groups of Jews into power-seeking tribal solidarity. It has been extraordinarily effective in achieving its goals which include the psychological unification of the manufactured “Jewish people.” This was made possible by the exploitation of the Holocaust by the Zionists. Whether or not the tribal cohesiveness of the Jews can be established outside of the support for Israel framework is debatable. The McGill University group Nit In Aundzer Nomen appears to be attempting to create a form of post-Zionist Jewish tribal solidarity, but who knows? But for now, support for Israel seems to me to be very strong among the Jewish elites. And what people like you need to realize is that you can be truly assimilated or you can be tribal, but you can’t be both. A quote for you.

        “Therefore, the real test facing both Israeli and diaspora Jews is the test of their self-criticism which must include the critique of the Jewish past. The most important part of such a critique must be detailed and honest confrontation of the Jewish attitude to non-Jews.” (p103, “Jewish History, Jewish Religion,” (p103, “Jewish History, Jewish Religion,” Israel Shahak)

    • Mooser
      March 21, 2016, 7:45 pm

      “At his unveiling, Garland referenced his ancestors who fled anti-semitic persecution in Europe.”

      If I had ancestors, they would have fled anti-Semitic persecution in Europe. Just want you to know that. But I haven’t got any ancestors.

  4. lysias
    March 19, 2016, 7:25 pm

    And why do Republicans name so many Catholics to the Supreme Court? The last Protestant on the court was John Paul Stevens, who retired in 2010.

  5. hophmi
    March 19, 2016, 9:24 pm

    Was waiting for this predictable piece. One day you’ll explain why having Jews in positions of power is any different here than it was in Europe, where highly assimilated guys like you said the same things over and over again.

    • Mooser
      March 19, 2016, 10:02 pm

      “where highly assimilated guys like you said the same things over and over again.”

      “Highly assimilated guys like you”? “Hophmi” are you trying to make a complete fool of yourself?

      So tell me, “Hophmi”, what’s it like being a real unassimilated Jew in America these days?

      • hophmi
        March 20, 2016, 8:42 am

        Again, any time you want to respond, rather than being a jackass, Mooser.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 1:07 pm

        “Again, any time you want to respond, rather than being a jackass, Mooser. “

        I’ll respond here. Your E-bay bid on my Judaica (the embossed Bar Mitzvah yarmulkes, and Art Swoger photos) was too low. Insultingly low. And I do not accept “bit-coin”.

      • Steve Grover
        March 20, 2016, 2:29 pm

        Hophmi,
        I think you mean everywhere else in the universe but here.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 4:19 pm

        “I think you mean everywhere else in the universe but here.”

        You are probably right “Grover”, I am probably pretty polly-ester about this “assimilation” thing.
        I’ve never spent any time in the furtive nether-world of the un-assimilated American Jew.
        “Hophmi” and “Grover” should write a book about it.
        Living without documentation, with no protection from the law, and hunted down for deportation, yet able to make “contributions far out of proportion to their numbers” (“Hophmi” those are Arabic numbers, not ours).
        Depending on Reform and even (shudder) Secular Jews (they’re assimilated, those mosers) to hide you in their attics and basements.
        What a gripping story: “12 Years an Un-assimilated Jew in America!”

  6. Stephen Shenfield
    March 20, 2016, 6:26 am

    Individual Jews have occupied high positions at many times and in many places, but that has never given security to the Jews because a backlash has always followed sooner or later and the “king” can always betray them when it becomes advantageous for him to do so. I see no reason not to assume that the same applies today in these United States. That is no excuse for Zionism, which provides no real security either due to the hated it engenders in the region and also because Israel is a wholly dependent protectorate of the US and will collapse when the backlash comes in this country. The best hope of relative security for the Jews (there is no such thing as absolute security) lies in their own good behavior, in learning greater humility, greater respect for others.

    • Mooser
      March 20, 2016, 1:00 pm

      “I see no reason not to assume that the same applies today in these United States.”

      Yeah, we are just here on sufferance, not assimilated as full-fledged citizens, and at any time, the US government, referring to its complete list of Jews, can place restrictions on our rights or protections, or even kick us out. Yup, it’s just the same as it was.
      But cause they like us right now, and we “contribute all out of proportion to our numbers” (“Hophmi”), they let us stay, and enjoy Constitutional protections and rights?

      But I get it, if I was only accepted on sufferance, I’d feel no particular obligation to follow a country’s laws, or keep it’s welfare in mind.
      Well, I’m gonna go downstairs and jump on some old 78’s.

      • Mooser
        March 20, 2016, 1:11 pm

        “The best hope of relative security for the Jews (there is no such thing as absolute security) lies in their own good behavior, in learning greater humility, greater respect for others.”

        And staying the hell out of politics, and keeping our heads down! And whatever we do, let’s not be too visible.

        (I don’t know, maybe I’m nuts, but I get the feeling that the state of the Jews in America is not predicated on that basis.)

  7. Krendall Mist
    March 20, 2016, 5:32 pm

    The Garland nomination as “reminder that Jews are the blue state establishment”? Really, Mr Weiss? No Goyim in there? And what of the Jews who own the “red state” candidates?

    The Garland nomination is an object lesson in Washington’s identity politics–Jewish identity. Obama, the great progressive–picks a State Security company man who has sustained almost every life sentence of Gitmo (Muslim) “forever prisoners” he’s decided on the basis of secret, non-existent, and patently fraudulent evidence–prisoners later released through by “review boards” overcome by rare pangs of conscience? Farcical.

    Obama picked Garland because he knew his identity shielded him from any Republican attack and would force–as we started to see within hours–the august Senate start backpedaling on their “no vote” line like little boys caught rifling their sisters’ underwear drawer. Obama tossed the alternative “best candidates” because he damned well knows the Republicans could easily pick off Asians and Blacks with ad hominem attack and without any consequence. But, go after a Jew? Political suicide. Might as well refuse to attend both AIPAC and J Street annual events or refuse to declare yourself an undying friend of the Jewish and Democratic State.

    But it has been amusing. I love watching Congressional lickspittles on both sides shuck and jive and hem and haw whenever they are directly confronted with a contradiction between their own avowed principles –such as, for instance, the interests of Americans–and “what’s best for the Jews.”

  8. Atlantaiconoclast
    March 20, 2016, 7:21 pm

    It is unclear to me why people who worship diversity seem ok with 0 Protestants on the Supreme Court. Are Jews really that much more clever?

    • echinococcus
      March 20, 2016, 8:40 pm

      They are, and how: they managed just that, didn’t they?

    • rosross
      March 21, 2016, 7:59 pm

      No, followers of Judaism are not more clever and if evidence for that fact were ever required one only has to look at the disaster that is Israel and its history of irrational if not frequently, seriously stupid behaviour.

  9. kalithea
    March 20, 2016, 8:38 pm

    I’m supposed to be thrilled that Obama nominated a right-wing Jewish justice to the court and feel real, real comforted that he received a glowing commendation by Orrin Hatch in the past when he ascended to the circuit court of appeals.

    And he’ll do just fine in a Trump administration since he’s also very pro-police and has rarely if ever ruled in favor of the criminally-accused on appeal because they must all be 100% guilty since mistakes are never made in the legal system. So the future Trump police state will be safe with the likes of Garland and Trump’s bestie Sheriff Arpaio. Check.

    And he joined with those judges who opposed hearings in the U.S. for Guantanamo detainees. Check on exclusion of foreign prisoners of war from rights under the law.

    And he’s probably a Zionist, so the state of Zionism is safe with him. Check and check.

    He’s so swell, and Jewish too, what a prize for the Court!

    And as for the rise of Jewish elitism…too bad you’re in the microscopic minority of Jews condemning and rejecting Zionism and too bad most Jews are Zionist. So the truth is that Jews having acquired affluence and influence hasn’t helped much in advancing the cause of justice and democracy in Israel and the U.S. has it? And Zionist PEPs don’t count, because hypocrisy is not progress. This rise in Jewish elitism only helped to rig the system in favor of Zionism.

    It’s kind of demeaning to go looking for better angels in this rich and influential lot of Zionists when as you can see from the responses from SG, Herchel and hophmi; there’s not a single atom of altruism for Palestinians to be found there. The benefits for the tribe justify the means and milking the Holocaust is a fail-safe excuse that will always overshadow the suffering of others and ensure the perpetual injustice that Zionism created.

  10. SonofDaffyDuck
    March 21, 2016, 11:12 am

    OK! Gonna say it.
    The general wisdom is that we Americans are not one culture or tribe anymore, but that we are now several tribes bound together by some sort of attractive force … the equivalent of the physicist’s dark matter, which is called “diversity.”
    But to accept this and then to balance the attractions (and repulsions) of the force of , is it not necessary that the distribution of political power be equally diverse?
    And who could argue that the Supreme Court does not represent political power?

    On this basis, is this delicate balance on which our society rests best served by a court which is constituted of five Catholics and four Jews? As a member of the former confession, I think not.
    The Gods of diversity would demand a Protestant female or even….male. Or maybe one more Afro-American, or Indian-American female or …..

    • rosross
      March 21, 2016, 7:57 pm

      There are more Muslims in the US than Jews so there should be a Muslim appointed. There may well be more Hindus.

      Perhaps a wiser course is to have no-one appointed who holds to any religion.

  11. ritzl
    March 21, 2016, 11:33 am

    Hmmm. Is “humility” code for distance, Phil? This liberal-blue “establishment” that you say Jews should humbly acknowledge being a principal factor within is about to nominate a psychopath for President. If Hillary gets elected and kills a million more human beings for no apparent reason (ie. f-ks up royally and publicly) will blame for that malignant behavior fall commensurately on this same major Jewish component of the establishment decision-making apparatus? Or will it be a case of proud [but humble] king-makers on the front end and “How dare you point ‘that’ out?” distancing on the back side should it all go terribly wrong?

    Second, is Garland a PeP/MeP? Someone should ask him, though I doubt anyone will. If he is, wouldn’t that inability to personally discern and internalize universal principles raise big questions about his ability to adjudicate and craft decisions involving universally applicable legal principles as a justice?

    Just asking.

    I get the gist if this article and why you wrote it, but it’s pretty tone-deaf to us non-Jews and it really does only consider a “good times” scenario.

    It made me squirm a bit. I would squirm less if there was an accompanying exhortation to be accept back/down side criticism as a group alongside the exhortation to be humble as a group for achieving this level of policy-driving “inclusion” (not sure that’s the right word, but it’ll do). I think the on-ramp to rapid de-assimilation comes from separating – or trying to separate – the two scenarios, NOT from treating them as inseparable parts of a whole.

    FWIW

  12. rosross
    March 21, 2016, 7:53 pm

    @ Herchel,

    You know, the world at large does not swallow the propaganda of poor little Israel surrounded by enemies anymore, if indeed it ever did.

    Nor the delusion that somehow, most Jews, scattered around the world, citizens of dozens of countries, are somehow threatened by countries in the Middle East. Well, Israel threatens them because Israel gives Jews and Judaism a bad name.

    For one thing, Israel does not represent Jews or Judaism and most Jews do not live in UN mandated Israel, never did and never will.

    Secondly, it is Israel which has done nothing but attack the indigenous people of the land it stole in its colonial war and its neighbours.

    The Arab world offered Israel peace some years ago, on one condition, end the occupation. Israel refused. Now, since that time Israel has attacked quite a few of its neighbours without cause, littered them with cluster bombs and continued to maintain occupation, colonisation and apartheid.

    The remarkable thing is actually how patient, intelligent, considered, sensible, Israel’s neighbours and the indigenous Palestinians have been in the face of such aggression and the human rights atrocities and war crimes it has entailed.

    Israel is a rogue State in general and particularly in the Middle East. It is a danger to the region, to the world and to itself.

    What the world sees, and we see more clearly in this age of technology and social media and a camera in every hand, etc. etc., is that the State of Israel maintains certainly the most murderous and venal occupation in modern history by a nation claiming to be a democracy, and one of the worst by any nation, even the Chinese give the Tibetans full and equal rights as citizens, and the regular slaughter and subjugation of nearly six million indigenous Palestinians, imprisoned in bantustans and the concentration camp of Gaza.

    The world sees Israel as a thug, in short, and it does not see Israel as facing any aggression except that of its own making.

  13. rugal_b
    March 21, 2016, 8:12 pm

    Fleeing persecution is a bad lie, and even if true, it would only mean his ancestors were cowards. Black people have been persecuted in levels unseen anywhere and across any time period in the US for over 500 years. Yet they still manage to stand tall and rise despite all efforts of the white supremacist empire. They consistently produce the bravest, fiercest and most inspiring men and women to actively resist and defeat the forces that oppress, not just them but anyone. It is no surprise then to see the first black person elected as the president went and become the single greatest leader of the nations history, bar none. Black people didn’t flee persecution, they fought it, and they won. If my ancestors were pathetic enough to flee when faced with injustice, I would be ashamed of my existence being possible due to their cowardice.

    • Mooser
      March 21, 2016, 10:10 pm

      “Fleeing persecution is a bad lie, and even if true, it would only mean his ancestors were cowards”

      Gosh, when I think that possibly millions of Jews fled to the US from Europe, I can really begin to see the extent of our cowardice.

      “If my ancestors were pathetic enough to flee when faced with injustice, I would be ashamed of my existence being possible due to their cowardice – “

      Gosh, when I think there were Jews all over the place in the 30’s fleeing persecution, it really gives me doubts about my “predetermined qualities”

      Have we Jews done anything brave, “rugal_b”? Have we ever struck a blow against white oppression?

      And did I mention you sure talk funny for a “social justice advocate”?

    • yonah fredman
      March 22, 2016, 2:02 am

      Rugal b- better dead lion then a living coward, huh! Why did God give you a brain and feet? Why did man invent boats and oars? To get from place to place. You’re a dope. You should fit right in here. Better dead in auschwitz than alive in Seattle? Gfy.

      • eljay
        March 22, 2016, 8:51 am

        || yonah fredman: Rugal b- better dead lion then a living coward, huh! Why did God give you a brain and feet? Why did man invent boats and oars? To get from place to place. You’re a dope. You should fit right in here. Better dead in auschwitz than alive in Seattle? Gfy. ||

        Yesterday: “To engage requires being on the same page vis a vis both a humanitarian basis and an acceptance that [thing to be accepted] is a valid priority or basis for a world view.”

        Today: “Go f*ck yourself.”

        Someone forgot to take his meds…

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 9:52 am

        Shmuel delineated two forms of communication: shouting and engaging. M Hughes wrote something worth engaging, and I engaged. Rugal wrote something worthy of ignoring or shouting. I chose shouting.

        Cite one instance that eljay ever engaged in ideas or thoughts instead of shouting. Bet you can’t.

      • eljay
        March 22, 2016, 10:15 am

        || yonah fredman: … Cite one instance that eljay ever engaged in ideas or thoughts instead of shouting. Bet you can’t. ||

        Shame on you for scoffing at eljay. But he accepts your bet. Here and here are just two of many examples of eljay engaging in ideas or thoughts instead of shouting.

        eljay accepts your apology. Now man up and pay up promptly.

      • Sibiriak
        March 22, 2016, 10:29 am

        yonah fredman: Cite one instance that eljay ever engaged in ideas or thoughts instead of shouting. Bet you can’t.
        ——————-

        See the exchange I had with eljay beginning here:

        http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/practicing-standard-countries/#comment-775641

        ( June 19, 2015, 9:23 am)

      • Mooser
        March 22, 2016, 11:26 am

        “Bet you can’t”

        “Yonah” comment archive

        “Yonah” don’t get mad at “rugal-b”! He is an even more radical Zionist than you!

        “Shmuel delineated two forms of communication”

        That’s his problem. Isn’t he from Israel?

      • talknic
        March 22, 2016, 12:08 pm

        @ yonah fredman
        “Shmuel delineated two forms of communication: shouting and engaging. M Hughes wrote something worth engaging, and “ you keep trying to justify the unjustifiable

      • yonah fredman
        March 22, 2016, 7:33 pm

        eljay- yes, you engage in ideas. no, you never engage in a discussion with a zionist on the level of ideas. you recycle the word zio supremacist a million times, so that your posts seem to resemble some kind of a robot, and occasionally emulate amigo and mooser in 7th grade puerile scoffing. compared to mooser you lift the discussion level. that’s a low bar you set for yourself.

      • Mooser
        March 22, 2016, 9:10 pm

        “compared to mooser you lift the discussion level.”

        “Yonah”, you want to raise the discussion level, maybe it would help if I understood why you try to impute, and become upset if everybody doesn’t impute to the Jews the exact same qualities that antisemites accuse us of??

        You know,
        1)having a “group consciousness” which excludes others from fairness or ethical consideration.
        2) Being engaged in a Jewish project (the return to Israel) with no consideration, or even the outright use of the countries in which we live.
        3) being in thrall to ancient rituals and spurious religious texts and all kinds of myths to the extent of killing over it.
        4) projecting the feeling that everybody owes us something, and we’re going to get it. That our religion entitles us to material things.

        Why do you keep on insisting on what could be an antisemite’s checklist?

      • eljay
        March 23, 2016, 7:36 am

        || yonah fredman: eljay- yes, you engage in ideas. no, you never engage in a discussion with a zionist on the level of ideas. … ||

        I knew you wouldn’t want or be able to man up and stand behind your bet. Instead, as you Zio-supremacists like to do, you change the terms of the discussion and divert attention.

        || … you recycle the word zio supremacist a million times, so that your posts seem to resemble some kind of a robot … ||

        1. I’m happy to be a robot who advocates the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality instead of a Zio-supremacist who consistently but hypocritically advocates injustice, immorality and supremacism.

        2. We are not all graced with your ability to produce countless paragraphs filled with sombre- and pious-sounding blather (when you’re not busy yelling at people to go f*ck themselves, that is) whose sole purpose is to attempt to justify, validate, defend and/or excuse Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”.

        || … and occasionally emulate amigo and mooser in 7th grade puerile scoffing. … ||

        Oh, come on, just tell me to go f*ck myself. You know you want to. :-)

      • yonah fredman
        March 23, 2016, 8:50 am

        eljay- you win the bet. you are a righteous man. bye bye.

      • eljay
        March 23, 2016, 9:21 am

        || yonah fredman: eljay- you win the bet. you are a righteous man. bye bye. ||

        No, I’m not a righteous man. But you most definitely are a sore loser. :-(

        If you’re going to make a bet, don’t sulk if you lose it. If you can’t handle losing a bet, don’t make one.

      • amigo
        March 23, 2016, 11:20 am

        ” so that your posts seem to resemble some kind of a robot, and occasionally emulate amigo and mooser in 7th grade puerile scoffing. compared to mooser you lift the discussion level. that’s a low bar you set for yourself.”YF

        Says the zionist apologist who refuses to provide links and regularly comments on articles he has not read and insists on offering his “assertions”.That,s a pretty low bar you set for yourself.

        Says the guy who whines if someone disagrees with him and accuses them of refusing to engage and advises them to go and have safe sex.

        At least my 7th grade material is the product of a mind that can tell the difference between right and wrong.

        We are not interested in engaging with an intellectually lazy and dishonest apologist for the crimes Israel has been committing for the last 7 decades and as such you deserve only derision and scorn.Your only way to deal with that is to say bye bye.You don,t even display honesty in that as you will be back posting the same nonsense that your archives are over flowing with.It,s a good thing , you are not on the Palestinian side.Israel needs no enemies with friends like you.

      • Mooser
        March 23, 2016, 12:47 pm

        “Better dead in auschwitz than alive in Seattle? Gfy.”

        “Yonah”, right on! It’s much better to be alive (even if insomniac, dyspeptic, arthritic and a confirmed alopeciac , like me) in Seattle than “dead in auschwitz”.
        But people will say some very inappropriate things during the winter and early spring. It gets frustrating, waiting for a sunny day.

    • Sibiriak
      March 22, 2016, 12:52 pm

      rugal_b: Fleeing persecution is a bad lie, and even if true, it would only mean his ancestors were cowards…
      ————–

      Ah, if only the Palestinians had stood their ground….

  14. lysias
    March 26, 2016, 7:36 pm

    It’s very disturbing that, before Scalia died, the Supreme Court was made up of 6 Catholics, 3 Jews, and no one else, that now, after he died, the Supreme Court is made up of 5 Catholics, 3 Jews, and no one else, and, if Garland were to be confirmed, it would be made up of 5 Catholics, 4 Jews, and no one else. I say this although I am a Catholic. Imagine the uproar if this Supreme Court were to overrule Roe v. Wade (which could well have happened before Scalia died, with only the 5 votes of the Catholic conservatives on the court).

    The last Protestant on the court was John Paul Stevens, who retired in 2010. Why is that?

    • Boomer
      March 27, 2016, 3:07 pm

      lysias, the question you raise regarding the composition of the Supreme Court is interesting, but I wasn’t initially sure whether I wanted to comment. Even to discuss the question may be to open oneself to being called a bigot. I can recall when “counting Catholics,” as well as “counting Jews,” was not condoned by right-thinking people. Then too, some may wonder about your question’s relevance to the goal of helping Palestinians (or at least ending U.S. complicity in their oppression).

      One might address your question by commenting on the relative decline of Protestant culture in a more diverse America, or on Mr. Obama’s specific political incentives (and those of earlier presidents) for each of his appointments, or on various other factors. One factor that deserves mention, I think, is the “Logic of Collective Action,” ably described in a 1965 book by that title by Mancur Olson: http://economics.about.com/cs/macroeconomics/a/logic_of_action.htm

      He showed, among other things, how a small group that is intensely interested or affected by an issue may outweigh a larger group whose members individually have less at stake. Today his observations about the role in our democracy of special interest groups may seem so commonplace as to hardly deserve mention, but the dynamic wasn’t so obvious to everyone before he published his work.

      I think it has some relevance here. Perhaps Mr. Weiss would agree, since he has several times noted the presence of Jews in the new “elites” that govern our society. One might conclude, using “The Logic,” that the best hope of contesting the Zionist’s hold on U.S. I/P policy will be a coalition of small interest groups: Palestinian-Americans plus non-Zionist Jewish Americans, together with such other Americans that will join in the cause. Obviously, that’s what is at work now, and obviously it is not winning . . . but I don’t see a better strategy.

    • Boomer
      March 28, 2016, 6:43 am

      PS: I didn’t mean to imply that you were a bigot; I was just expressing a caution that raising the question could open one to attack, if one is Protestant, as I am. When I said, “I can recall when “counting Catholics,” as well as “counting Jews,” was not condoned by right-thinking people,” I should have said “right-thinking Protestants.” Obviously, the rule didn’t apply to the groups in question: they can and do count, which is part of the “logic.”

      Even today, the rule applies. I have many non-Jewish friends with whom I must avoid much discussion of Palestine and U.S. policy toward it. They won’t tolerate it. They know enough about reality to realize there are problems, but they don’t want to know too much: that would complicate their world view, in which America is good, Jews are good, Israel is good, and much criticism of any of them is bad, a sign of bigotry. (Obviously, I have to avoid discussion of the issue with my Jewish friends too, except for the very few whom I know that are unhappy with Israel’s policies, but that’s another issue.)

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