Most Jews want to expel Palestinians — Pew’s ugly portrait of Israel

Israel/Palestine

Most Israeli Jews want to expel Palestinian citizens of Israel from the country. And overwhelmingly, those Palestinian citizens say that the United States is too supportive of Israel.

This documentation of racism and polarization inside Israel is contained in a new in-depth survey of Israeli attitudes by the Pew Research Center.

This Pew tweet reflects the deeply discriminatory nature of Israeli society. Four out of five Israeli Jews like being on top:

And a vast majority of Palestinian citizens of Israel regard the society as discriminatory.

Here’s the headline that has made Haaretz and the Forward too: the stunner that Israeli Jews want Palestinians in their midst to get out of the state, by 48 to 46.

Israeli Jews are divided on the question of whether Arabs should be allowed to live in the Jewish state. The survey asked Jews whether they strongly agree, agree, disagree or strongly disagree with the statement that “Arabs should be expelled or transferred from Israel.” Roughly half of Israeli Jews strongly agree (21%) or agree (27%), while a similar share disagree (29%) or strongly disagree (17%).

And these attitudes are most strongly embedded among religious people. Though more than a third of seculars also want to expel Arabs:

Datiim [religious] are especially likely to favor the expulsion of Arabs. Roughly seven-in-ten (71%) say Arabs should be transferred.

Hilonim [seculars] lean in the other direction: Most (58%) disagree and say Arabs should not be expelled from Israel, including 25% who strongly disagree. But even among these self-described secular Israeli Jews, about one-third (36%) favor the expulsion of Arabs from the country.

 

Expulsion of Arabs, Pew breakdown

Expulsion of Arabs, Pew breakdown

The data on intermarriage reflect this racism. 97 percent of Jews don’t want a child to marry a Muslim, 89 percent are against a marriage to a Christian. Muslim and Christians are also intolerant of such matches, but by a lesser number.

Intermarriage data

Intermarriage data

Of course American Jews are very different:

Here is impressive evidence of the fact that the settlements are now thought to be at the heart of Israeli society, as Weiss reported in January:

Stark change in Israeli Jewish view of settlements in last two years

Stark change in Israeli Jewish view of settlements in last two years

The study also shows that all the liberal and centrist Israeli parties together command 28 percent of Jewish voters’ support– and Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud equals that, at 28 percent. With Naftali Bennett’s settler party getting 11 percent, Shas 12 percent and Avigdor Lieberman’s party getting 9 percent. That’s 60 percent on the right. This is the society that Max Blumenthal told us about and the mainstream media denies: a hard right wing society, shot through with racist attitudes.

Those Israelis don’t like the United States, either. Israeli Jews say that the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel, by 5 to 1. Even the seculars are overwhelmingly of that opinion, by about 3.5 to 1, while the religious are more than 6 to 1 on the question.

 

Israeli views of American support

Israeli views of American support

 

But Palestinian citizens of Israel say that the U.S. is too supportive of Israel; more than three out of four say so. Only one in eight thinks the U.S. is insufficiently supportive. Notice that Christians in Israel say the U.S. is too supportive of the country by about 14 to 1! Pew:

Israeli Arabs are considerably less likely than Jews to say U.S. support for Israel is insufficient (12% vs. 52%). In fact, a big majority of Israeli Arabs say the U.S. is too supportive of Israel (77%).

Here is that data:

Pew Forum data on Palestinian views of US support

Pew Forum data on Palestinian views of US support

The message there is that the Israel lobby is a Jewish lobby. Israeli Jews are all for support of their society, but the minority doesn’t like that support, because the society is so discriminatory.

And does this surprise you?

Most Arabs say Israel cannot be both a democracy and Jewish state

Pew’s data show us that the deep divisions within Israel and Palestinians under occupation are reflected inside Israeli society, which reflects hard-right racist attitudes. Jews are legally superior in Israeli society, they like it that way, and Palestinians don’t see Israel as a democracy and don’t like the U.S. support for Israel.

How long can the U.S. continue to be on one side of a Jim Crow society where 20 percent of the population cries out for its rights? How long can American politicians continue to describe this country as a democracy?

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  1. a blah chick
    March 8, 2016, 1:03 pm

    “Those Israelis don’t like the United States, either. Israeli Jews say that the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel, by 5 to 1”

    There’s no pleasing them.

    Ungrateful Ingrates.

    • amigo
      March 8, 2016, 1:44 pm

      They should be asked just what it is the US should be doing to please them.

      Some possible responses!!.

      1, Increase the AID to Israel.

      2, Cover the cost of transferring Israel,s enemies .

      3. Refuse to trade with any nation that says anything negative about Israel.

      4, Use the US military might to destroy the Arab World .

      5, Finance the anti BDS movement.

      That will do for starters.,

      OOPS –major omission—Nuke Iran.

      • ritzl
        March 8, 2016, 4:52 pm

        7) List to be updated and agreed to daily.

  2. amigo
    March 8, 2016, 1:29 pm

    All very well but will it make the front page of the main US print media.Will it be featured on “Fair and balanced ” faux news. Will NPR hold a discussion on the subject.Will anyone be able to get a response from the WH spokespeople.

    It will as usual be kept out of view and eventually disappear .Out of sight , out of mind.

  3. amigo
    March 8, 2016, 1:36 pm

    Might I suggest you change the headline to !!.

    “Pew,s portrait of “Ugly ” Israel .”

  4. inbound39
    March 8, 2016, 2:16 pm

    In the next twelve months there will be a dramatic shift in support for Israel and its criminal actions. In my view it has reached a critical tipping point. America and UK can no longer feasibly support OR defend Israel’s actions given the shift in opposition to Israel within American and UK citizenry. Also this is definitely the wrong time for Israel to create hundreds of thousands more refugees. There is talk that the Obama Administration is planning to make a positive shift in the trajectory for ensuring a Palestinian State and will support International Resolutions calling for a Palestinian State before leaving office so it will set the stage for the incoming new President. It would seem the World actually does have a limit.

    • MHughes976
      March 8, 2016, 5:18 pm

      Are you sure, inbound? I don’t see much movement within the political class, and it is still they who make the decisions.

  5. ckg
    March 8, 2016, 3:00 pm

    And unsurprisingly, Isabel Kershner doesn’t mention Israeli Jews’ preference for expelling Arabs until the eighth paragraph in her NYT article on the Pew survey. Differences of opinion on intermarriage are in her first paragraph.

    • amigo
      March 8, 2016, 3:18 pm

      ckg, yeah and it is buried under the following headline!!.

      “Deep Rifts Among Israeli Jews Are Found in Religion Survey”.

      Most people will just move on after the first para.Who is interested in Jewish tribal differences.Just another way the NYT can claim it reports negative articles about Israel.

      • ckg
        March 8, 2016, 3:21 pm

        amigo,
        Even worse, the NYT headline of the AP article on the survey is, “Poll Shows More Israelis Believe Settlements Help Security”

      • Mooser
        March 8, 2016, 5:25 pm

        “Who is interested in Jewish tribal differences.”

        Bartenders, for one! A vital interest.

        What are you supposed to do if they serve up a tref country? With occupation as a chaser.

  6. Krauss
    March 8, 2016, 3:17 pm

    What is revealing is that the younger are more in favor of expelling rather than the older. Usually the younger are more liberal; not in Israel.

    The data on intermarriage was shocking.

    • Citizen
      March 9, 2016, 12:19 pm

      Wasn’t shocking to me.

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 7:34 pm

        “Wasn’t shocking to me.”

        It was to me, but I got used to it in time.

  7. Krauss
    March 8, 2016, 3:18 pm

    BTW where is that troll gnome hophmi, reassuring us all that this data is all just overblown hyperbole if not anti-Semitism? I’d love to see how that clown tries to spin this blatant proof of a Jim Crow racist state.

    • oldgeezer
      March 8, 2016, 4:14 pm

      @Krauss

      Easy answer. They’re waiting for Israeli propaganda sources to spew out the party line. They always shoot themselves in the foot when they try to go it alone.

  8. echinococcus
    March 8, 2016, 3:30 pm

    “Deep Rifts Among Israeli Jews Are Found in Religion Survey”

    Bullsh*t. The data shows that there is no disagreement to speak of among the invader Herrenvolk –no relationship to religion. They are all agreed in the majority with Nazi-style elimination of the owner population, period.
    The whole bunch must be expelled, neutered or defanged before it’s too late.

  9. Stephen Shenfield
    March 8, 2016, 5:11 pm

    There has been a big decline in the proportion of Palestinian citizens of Israel who believe in the possibility of a two-state solution: “As recently as 2013, roughly three-quarters of Israeli Arabs (74%) said a peaceful two-state solution was possible. As of early 2015, 50% say such an outcome is possible.”

    The proportion of Israeli Jews who believe in the possibility of a two-state solution is somewhat lower still, though it fluctuates.

    It seems that the pollsters did not ask about the possibility of a one-state solution.

  10. Whatt
    March 8, 2016, 5:18 pm

    Interesting how the Christian Palestinians (compared to Palestinian Muslim and Druzes) are generally more forceful in rejecting Israeli Zionist practices, and have a more clear view of what Israel is all about.

    • Abuadam
      March 8, 2016, 8:51 pm

      The Christians are better educated, and I’m saying this as an educated Muslim Palestinian.

    • Abuadam
      March 8, 2016, 8:57 pm

      The Christians are better educated, and I’m saying this as as an educated Muslim Palestinian.

    • Neil Schipper
      March 8, 2016, 10:28 pm

      Interesting how nearly a quarter of Israeli Muslims say U.S. support for Israel is either “not supportive enough” or “about right”.

      My speculation is that these are the Israeli Muslims most able to think their way out of their indoctrination. They observe their cousins in Arab-Muslim majority lands languishing under authoritarian rule, if not fleeing by the millions at great personal risk.

      My speculation is that these are the Israeli Muslims who have a fairly clear-eyed view of what life would be like under Arab-Muslim majority rule.

      • Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 11:35 am

        “My speculation…”

        Okay, that’s enough of that.

      • chocopie
        March 9, 2016, 7:45 pm

        Nah, pretty sure they’re the least educated and most marginalized segment and they have no idea what the US is doing. They probably hear the Israelis always bitching and moaning about the US and from this assumed the US must be doing something right.

        The U.S. is very supportive of Israel and that is an indisputable fact. So these people, far from having a “clear-eyed view,” are actually incorrect.

  11. henspert
    March 8, 2016, 7:19 pm

    Is there a Printer Friendly button or can one be created. I like to print articles on occasion. When I do the fonts are too small to read. Thanks!

  12. Kay24
    March 8, 2016, 8:59 pm

    The picture of Israelis holding their flag is menacing, considering what the polls show, and their mind set. They are arrogant, think they are superior to all others, vicious against the minority, cruel towards their neighbors, steal what they want, kill without conscience, and are sadistic in their treatment towards unarmed civilians. The result of being brainwashed that the world is out to get them, and justifications from their leaders for the necessity to “defend” themselves.

    The polls show a very ugly side to Israelis, something we have seen many times in polls and videos.

    Many of these traits were seen many years ago in Germany too. It is unbelievable to think the victims of those horrible crimes, have turned out to be nasty human beings.
    The US and other Western nations must be held responsible for enabling Israel, by aiding and supportin it, arming it, and protecting it from international censure. We made that monster.

    • Neil Schipper
      March 8, 2016, 10:46 pm

      … vicious against the minority, cruel towards their neighbors, steal what they want, kill without conscience, and are sadistic in their treatment towards unarmed civilians …

      It’s almost as if Israelis are gradually adopting the norms of the region.

      An acclimatization.

      A survival strategy.

      • Kay24
        March 9, 2016, 2:05 am

        “It’s almost as if Israelis are gradually adopting the norms of the region.”.

        A military occupation that has gone on for the past 60 + years, is NOT the norm in that region.

        If the brutal occupier needs a strategy to “survive” imagine how much more the oppressed under the occupier must need. There is a simple solution, but Israel is too greedy for lands to take it – end the damn occupation, end the illegal settlements, and do what a “democratic” nation is supposed to do. The unwanted refugees from Eastern Europe were supposed to stay within their borders, not steal some from their neighbors, and killing them on a daily basis.

      • talknic
        March 9, 2016, 2:59 am

        @ Neil Schipper March 8, 2016, 10:46 pm

        “It’s almost as if Israelis are gradually adopting the norms of the region.”

        Name another state in the region who has been in occupation of its neighbours territories for 68 years

      • Sibiriak
        March 9, 2016, 3:46 am

        talknic: Name another state in the region who has been in occupation of its neighbours territories for 68 years
        ———————-

        49 years, not 68, if you judge by international law and declarations by the UN and the ICJ, acording to which the 1967 Green Line divides Occupied Palestinian Territory from Israeli territory ( unless and until a final agreement authorizes adjustments to that line, no such final agreement/ border adjustments being legally required).

        As Hostage succinctly put it:

        So the proposition that Israel is an occupying power inside the Green Line is really a non-starter.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/following-abbas-statement-on-right-of-return-palestinian-youth-in-lebanon-call-for-end-to-oslo-and-the-palestinian-authority#comment-513677

        On the other hand, if you are arguing from “strict morality”, you could just as well follow Echinococcus’ logic and say the Zionist occupation has been going on for some 100+ years. The immoral and often violent expropriation of Palestinian land began long before 1947.

        In any case, your basic point is still valid.

        I would add that, imo, Israel’s actions should be judged by the standards of international law and universalist humanist ethics, not some irrelevant, alleged “norms of the region”.

      • Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 11:17 am

        “It’s almost as if Israelis are gradually adopting the norms of the region.”

        Well, of course they are! They are back in their “historical homeland”, and ready to relive the Bible story! How did that turn out for us?

      • Don
        March 9, 2016, 2:16 pm

        I would like to nominate Neil for the RW Award.

      • Annie Robbins
        March 9, 2016, 4:40 pm

        richard witty?

      • Kay24
        March 9, 2016, 8:51 pm

        Annie, more like Regretfully Wrong. :))

  13. MaxNarr
    March 8, 2016, 9:00 pm

    While 99% of Mondoweiss readers want to ethnically cleanse Jewish settlers from Judea / Samaria. Barbaric.

    • talknic
      March 9, 2016, 3:08 am

      @ MaxNarr March 8, 2016, 9:00 pm

      “While 99% of Mondoweiss readers want to ethnically cleanse Jewish settlers from Judea / Samaria. Barbaric”

      LOL. If some moronic, nonsense babbling schmuck stole Max’s home he’d consider it ethnic cleaning were they to be made to adhere to the law and be told p*ss off back to their own home

      Max demonstrates again what Zionist brainwashing can do

    • eljay
      March 9, 2016, 10:05 am

      || MaxNarr: While 99% of Mondoweiss readers want to ethnically cleanse Jewish settlers from Judea / Samaria. ||

      I have no idea what a “Judea / Samaria” is, but Israelis have no right to occupy and colonize territory outside of Israel’s / Partition borders. Similarly, non-Israelis have no right occupy and colonize territory inside of Israel’s / Partition borders.

      — Edit —
      Google says that “Samaria” is a hair salon in Texas. No idea why “Jewish settlers” are occupying it.

      • Talkback
        March 9, 2016, 2:59 pm

        I think he meant German settlers in Bohemia and Moravia and that the Nazis have a right to settle in occupied territories despite the Nuremberg trials and the Geneva Conventions.

    • Mooser
      March 9, 2016, 11:15 am

      “While 99% of Mondoweiss readers want to ethnically cleanse Jewish settlers from Judea / Samaria. Barbaric.”

      You might want to find a word besides “Jewish settlers” for them, “MaxNarr”. To most people that’s why they should be kicked out. No MaxNarr, it’s not the “Jewish” it’s the “settler”.

      Do you really think the one gives immunity (or even ROTFL sympathy?) to the other?

      You are so precious, dude. Haven’t you ever heard of anti-semitism? If you are so afraid of antisemitism, why do you stress, over and over, how “Jewish” this all is, this illegal settling and land-stealing?

      • MaxNarr
        March 9, 2016, 6:39 pm

        You want to ethnically cleanse Jews from Judea / Samaria. Full stop. It’s not 50% of the readers here, it’s the entire readership. Take a step back and think about what that really means. Also rethink who is the antisemite here, the one who wants to rip Jewish families from their homes, or those who advocate for equality in Judea and Samaria?

      • echinococcus
        March 9, 2016, 11:10 pm

        Equality with illegal invader thugs? Forget it. Out. Back to where you came from. Tough for Brooklyn, though.

      • talknic
        March 9, 2016, 11:50 pm

        @ MaxNarr “You want to ethnically cleanse Jews from Judea / Samaria”

        Illegal Israeli settlers are required by International Law to p*ss off back to Israel.

        Go whine to the stupid Zionist Federation and idiotic Israeli Government for encouraging them to break the law

      • eljay
        March 10, 2016, 7:09 am

        || MaxNarr: You want to ethnically cleanse Jews from Judea / Samaria. Full stop. … ||

        There is no Judea / Samaria. Full stop.

        Israelis have no right to occupy and colonize any territory outside of Israel’s / Partition borders. Full stop.

      • MHughes976
        March 10, 2016, 12:20 pm

        I very much want there to be a world including the ME, wherever its frontiers are drawn, where anyone can live anywhere without discrimination on grounds of race or religion. On the other hand I would think that any reasonable ‘solution’ would involve the relocation of most of the Jewish settlers currently in the highly disputed West Bank, not because they are Jewish but because their withdrawal would be an essential symbol of good will and determination to bring the great conflict to an end. There would be many concessions, real and symbolic, that the Israeli side could expect to receive were a genuine solution, generally agreeable to all, were ever to be found. Not that I see any short term hope.

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 4:21 pm

        “You want to ethnically cleanse Jews from Judea”

        That happened to a Jewish person I know! Stopped paying the mortgage, and he was ethnically cleansed from his Jewish home. On his Jewish land.

        “MaxNarr”, this may be a shocking concept, but being Jewish does not exempt a person from laws. But you just keep insisting that it does. You’ll convince people of it, if you try.

      • YoniFalic
        March 10, 2016, 7:54 pm

        I have to follow up @Mooser’s comment and point out the following from the definitions associated with the international anti-genocide legal regime.

        The racist genocidal settlers in the OT do not count as a population under the International Convention for the Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide.

        They constitute a criminal conglomeration or conspiracy of genocidaires, who should be removed and sent to the ICC for trial and in some cases execution upon conviction.

        We should not mince words in this discussion because we must decide whether the international anti-genocide legal regime is to be taken seriously.

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 10:47 am

        “They constitute a criminal conglomeration or conspiracy of genocidaires, who should be removed and sent to the ICC for trial and in some cases execution upon conviction.”

        “Yoni”!! How can you say that? My God! Wouldn’t it be better to say “and in a few cases execution upon conviction”? For almost all the settlers, imprisonment and/or fines would be appropriate.

      • YoniFalic
        March 11, 2016, 11:27 am

        @Mooser

        I might be reaching the limit of my English, for I don’t understand a material difference between what you wrote and what I wrote.

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 12:12 pm

        ” for I don’t understand a material difference between what you wrote and what I wrote.”

        There ain’t one. I just thought it might be comforting to stress the fact that most will be guilty of crimes equivalent to felonies, usually punished by jail time and/or fines. Only a small minority of “settlers” would be guilty of capital crimes. Executions are grisly, and it might even be better to forego capital punishment for life imprisonment. So why stress the possibility of executions?

        Of course, somebody will have to decide what to do with the IDF, and its officers.

      • YoniFalic
        March 11, 2016, 12:17 pm

        @Mooser

        I think I understand now. The word “some” means “at least a few”.

        Okay — I should have written “a few”.

        Yet I have to note that Julius Streicher was executed even though he never physically hurt anyone directly but only incited. By that standard practically all Neocon leaders and Martin Peretz et al. would be liable to execution, i. e., חייב מיתה. If incitement to commit genocide under Nuremberg Tribunal precedent or under customary international law deserves execution, what do perpetrators deserve?

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 3:44 pm

        “If incitement to commit genocide under Nuremberg Tribunal precedent or under customary international law deserves execution, what do perpetrators deserve?”

        “Yoni” I know very little about international law, but in the resolution of a ‘colonial problem’ like Palestine, there can be a wide range of penalties. Don’t they range from execution to a process of reconciliation that avoids most penal penalties (like we haven’t already suffered…oh wait, never mind, different word)?
        Anyway “Yoni”, I am too busy being terrified of the penalty which may be exacted from American Jews (such as we are, of course) if Zionism goes south and sideways. I hear they might bust us back to ordinary people. Not sure if we can stand that. Of course, we’ll fight and appeal that decision with every resource we have!

      • YoniFalic
        March 12, 2016, 11:01 am

        While the United Nations established decolonialization as a goal, it created an international antigenocide regime onto which both Israel and also the USA has signed on.

        Thus either we address the State of Israel and its criminal genocidaire-invader population from the standpoint of international antigenocide law, or we chuck the international antigenocide regime.

        There is neither laches nor statute of limitations in international antigenocide law.

        In addition, unwillingness to apply international antigenocide law to a population that has been subjected to genocide invalidates international antigenocide law by rendering it fundamentally unfair.

        International antigenocide law must be applied uniformly from Nazi Germany to Zionist Israel or not at all.

    • zaid
      March 9, 2016, 7:56 pm

      Max

      LOL……i am one of those.

      But i wont call it ethnic cleaning since they (Israeli settlers) are nothing but illegal thugs who stole a land that doesnot belong to them.

      • MaxNarr
        March 9, 2016, 9:09 pm

        The first step to ethnic cleansing and genocide is dehumanization. You might call them rats, you might call them illegal thugs, you might call them thieves. Or you might just call them what they are, Jews in their Land.

      • talknic
        March 9, 2016, 11:46 pm

        @ MaxNarr “The first step to ethnic cleansing and genocide is dehumanization. “

        Uh huh. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=%E2%80%9CArabs+are+pigs%22

        “… you might call them illegal thugs, you might call them thieves”

        If that’s what they are, who cares if they’re Jewish, Hindu, atheists, British, French, Israelis or Jews from Brooklyn

        ” Or you might just call them what they are, Jews in their Land”

        Or you might just call them illegal Israeli settlers who’re not in Israel, which is what they are and you know that’s who’s being discussed

        Try something else Max, you’re losing!

        ————-

        Say …… why are apologists for Israeli crimes so stupid?

      • Kay24
        March 10, 2016, 1:05 am

        @Talknic “Say …… why are apologists for Israeli crimes so stupid?”

        They have to be stupid to just spew the unrealistic narrative from their leaders without deep thought and reasoning. They seem totally incapable of realizing that it is due to the decades old occupation and land grabs, that they are experiencing violent resistance from those they hold under occupation. To stop the stones and rockets you have to end the occupation.
        They must be stupid to keep pretending otherwise.

      • eljay
        March 10, 2016, 7:11 am

        || MaxNarr: The first step to ethnic cleansing and genocide is dehumanization. … ||

        Of the sort that hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists have been doing to non-Jews in (Mandate) Palestine for ~70 years.

        || … Or you might just call them what they are, Jews in their Land. ||

        Jewish citizens of countries around the world – including Israel – are “Jews in their (respective) lands”.

        Jewish citizens of Israel occupying and colonizing land outside of Israel’s / Partition borders are not “Jews in their land” – they are (war) criminals. And you and hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists like you are apologists for their (war) crimes.

      • amigo
        March 10, 2016, 11:23 am

        “The first step to ethnic cleansing and genocide is dehumanization. ” Maxnard

        Where did you learn that from Maxi, in a Yisha or at local zioniist meetings where the agenda was all about solving the demographic problem.

        “You might call them rats” maxi.

        I am in no mood to insult rats.

        “you might call them illegal thugs, you might call them thieves.”maxi.

        We call them as we see them.

        ” Or you might just call them what they are, Jews in their Land.” maxi

        Nope , we will not call them that.We will call them what they are , which is , citizens of Israel which makes them “Illegal squatters” .Check 4th GC .( hint–Geneva Conventions).

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 4:15 pm

        “Or you might just call them what they are, Jews in their Land.”

        MaxNarr, I beg you, for the sixth or seventh time, please, please, find a Rabbi, or better informed Zionist who can guide you in your comments.

        Not only are your comments not helping, “Max”. Well, let me put it this way, “MaxNarr”. The most sensible conclusion is that you are an antisemite, caricaturing a Zionist, and Jew to make Jews and Zionists look, well, less than perfect .
        If you insist on commenting, please lantzmann, seek guidance from a Rabbi or better informed Zionist.
        If nothing else, “MaxNarr”, try and see the viewpoint of a Jewish parent! Would you want your kids to be taught by, under the influence of, or worse, under the control of people like you, “MaxNarr”?

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 4:24 pm

        “The first step to ethnic cleansing and genocide is dehumanization.”

        That’s very true, “MaxNarr”, but wouldn’t it be better to follow the usual and customary procedure, in which the party doing the ethnic cleansing is also responsible for the preceding dehumanization? Do you think it’s a good idea for the Israelis to do it to themselves?

      • YoniFalic
        March 10, 2016, 8:06 pm

        The vast majority of the Judaic population of the Greco-Roman world did not consider Judea their home while the descendants of Greco-Roman Judeans, Samarians, Galileans, Nabateans, Peraeans, Idumeans and Gaulonitians entirely converted first to Christianity and then mostly to Islam.

        When Philo wanted to attend a Temple Service, he visited the Egyptian Judaic Temple and not the Jerusalem Temple.

        While some modern “Jews” may descend from Greco-Roman convert Judaic populations, the vast majority descend from more recent convert populations.

        When a modern “Jew” claims territorial rights to Palestine, decent human beings must consider him a totally racist genocidal liar. Because the lies of such a person are used to justify murder and genocide, decent human beings must hate him without reservation and without equivocation.

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 10:52 am

        “When a modern “Jew” claims territorial rights to Palestine, decent human beings must consider him a totally racist genocidal liar. Because the lies of such a person are used to justify murder and genocide, decent human beings must hate him without reservation and without equivocation.”

        That’s the Zionist wet-dream right there. That’s what they want.

  14. bryan
    March 9, 2016, 5:33 am

    We are of course all familiar with the “fact” that Palestinians teach their children to hate Jews (see for instance http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/05/04/palestinians-teach-their-children-to-hate-jews/).

    However, the poll reveals that Palestinian Israelis (especially Moslems) seem to be slightly more tolerant of Jews than Jews are of them (only 3% of Israeli Jews [perhaps don’t knows?] would not disapprove of their children marrying Moslems, whilst the equivalent figure for Palestinian Moslem Israelis not disapproving of their children marrying Jews is 18%).

    When are we going to get an honest recognition of the fact that Israelis teach their children to hate Moslems (and indeed all non-Jews)?

  15. yonah fredman
    March 9, 2016, 5:46 am

    It is not unusual for me to nitpick a word or a headline. But a lead sentence is rarely false. A plurality of Israeli Jews supported the statement. That is not the same as most Israeli jews. 50.1 per cent would equal most. 48 percent is not most
    The actual tally is horrible and a sign of detachment from reality on the part of way too many. This does not make the lead sentence true. It is near to the truth, but it is not true.

    • lyn117
      March 9, 2016, 12:49 pm

      Yes, it could say “More Israeli Jews than not”

    • Mooser
      March 9, 2016, 1:23 pm

      “It’s not unusual…”

      Take it away Tom!

    • amigo
      March 9, 2016, 2:05 pm

      “It is not unusual for me to nitpick a word or a headline. But a lead sentence is rarely false yonah.

      Says the guy who has a penchant for commenting on articles he has not read.I don,t have time to post all the relevant links but trust me . they take up considerable amount of cyber space.

      “This does not make the lead sentence true. It is near to the truth, but it is not true.” yonah.

      We have known unknowns and knowns we don,t know and unknowns we have yet to know and unknown knowns. Yonah Rumsfelled.

      • Don
        March 9, 2016, 2:23 pm

        I want to nominate Amigo for the Mooser Humor Award

      • Mooser
        March 9, 2016, 2:53 pm

        Darn, I had a parody of the entire song based on “Yonah’s” comment, now lost. And don’t say “Pew”. It makes “Yonah” think of churches and crosses and priests, oh my.

  16. rugal_b
    March 9, 2016, 5:49 am

    This is the result of unrestrained and unchallenged nation-building and social engineering by the European, white Jews in Israel who managed to instill the hatred within them of Arabs and non-whites, into the general Jewish populace leading to the unfortunate scenario we see today.

    Despite what the information presented in the article may imply, the root of racist thoughts and behavior of Israelis are learned from the racist European white Jews who through the support of white supremacist regimes of the USA, UK, Canada and Australia, were able to dominate the process of shaping Israel’s collective culture and sociopolitical identities.

    It is extremely sad for me to see, Jews of Arab ancestry internalizing so much hatred to their own kin, their own brothers and sisters. If only they could realize that they are being used as pawns by the white Jews who would happily see them too gone from Israel if the circumstances allow it.

    • eljay
      March 9, 2016, 11:12 am

      || rugal_b: … the root of racist thoughts and behavior of Israelis are learned from the racist European white Jews … It is extremely sad for me to see, Jews of Arab ancestry internalizing so much hatred to their own kin, their own brothers and sisters. … ||

      Why are you blaming “Euro Jews” for the hatred “Arab Jews” have for Arabs?

      Progressive Marxist belief in determinism in human behavior tells us that “each and everyone of us are uniquely molded to play specific roles in the universe … Circumstances change and people react to the change according to their predetermined qualities.”

      Therefore, if “Arab Jews” hate Arabs, that’s because they are predetermined by the universe to hate them. An “Arab Jew” can’t turn into a “Euro Jew” any more than Obama can turn into Netanyahu.

      • Atlantaiconoclast
        March 10, 2016, 1:22 am

        Amen. Every group has racists. This notion that only Whites are racist is so destructive.

      • rugal_b
        March 10, 2016, 4:06 am

        “Why are you blaming “Euro Jews” for the hatred “Arab Jews” have for Arabs?” – Eljay

        For the same reason I blame European colonialism and imperialism in the rise of sexism, misogyny, homophobia, anti-black racism and many other social ills in traditionally progressive nations where these issues were not present before European contact. It is a deliberate form of violence inflicted upon these societies, to destroy its highly sophisticated and functional systems of civilisation, developed and refined over thousands of years, in order to render them dysfunctional and chaotic. In turn, the colonial actor, namely the white Europeans, can maximize their theft and exploitation of the resources from these rich societies.

        Racism against Arabs were introduced as part of state policy by the European Jews, in order to secure their new role as the ruling class of colonial Israel. This is not unique to Israel at all, but is common modus operandi for many similar settler-colonial projects. Arab Jews have absolutely no rational motivation to develop racist hatred towards their own kind, who share more of their own blood and DNA than any other ethnic group in the world. This is why I view the anti-Arab racism by the Mizrahim as a form of self-hatred that was instilled by the white Jews for their own political gain.

      • rugal_b
        March 10, 2016, 4:24 am

        “Every group has racists. This notion that only Whites are racist is so destructive.” – Atlantaiconoclast

        No, this is not true for countries with a white majority such as the USA, UK, Australia etc. Racism has a specific definition which takes into account the power dynamics of the society in question, and the form of prejudice taking place. All groups has assholes, but that doesn’t mean all group has racists, because society is simply not built that way.

        In the context of American society, racism is a white-specific phenomenon, because white people overwhelmingly hold most positions of power. Consequently, only white people are able to systematically oppress other groups based on the racial traits, such as skin colour, hair texture, body shape etc. Again, being racist is a privilege, not an innate ability found in all groups.

        Lastly, dismissing the reality of racial violence in America and other white ruled societies, you are engaging in erasure of POC and black experiences which should be a good reason for self-education.

        Below I listed several excellent resources for you and others to learn and understand more about race and racism, which I am sure you will find enlightening after you gone through them.

        30+ Resources to Help White Americans Learn About Race and Racism by Jon Greenberg (http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/07/white-americans-learn-race/)

        8 Things White People Really Need to Understand About Race by Jamie Utt (http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/07/8-things-white-people-race/)

        11 Common Ways White Folks Avoid Taking Responsibility for Racism in the US by Robin DiAngelo (http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/08/white-america-responsibility/)

        3 Reasons We Cannot Cater to White Friends Who Say ‘I’m Not Racist’ by Hari Ziyad (http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/03/white-friends-im-not-racist/)

        Hope you find these resources helpful, and I would be more than happy to share heavier literature on the subject if you are interested.

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 12:31 pm

        “Hope you find these resources helpful”

        Who the hell do you think you are kidding? “rugal b”, you should go back to Yahoo or Disqus. It won’t work here. Even if it did work, “rugal b”, and you managed to hook some sucker, the Mods, I think, wouldn’t let it work!

        So you are not going to get that big explosion of racism in defense of “white people” you keep on hoping for “rugal b”, the deck is stacked against you here.

  17. yonah fredman
    March 9, 2016, 5:54 am

    BTW if trump will be the Republican candidate a racist white will receive a majority of American white votes, including some here.

    • eljay
      March 9, 2016, 10:02 am

      If I were American and had to choose between:
      – Sanders and Trump, I’d vote Sanders;
      – Clinton and Trump, I’d spoil my ballot.

      • Another Dave
        March 9, 2016, 2:16 pm

        Back in 1988 a good number of Canadians made the choice to split their votes between the NDP and the Liberals; we got 5 more years of Mulroony for that mistake.

        Of the Republicans running, Clinton would be far better than Trumpf.

    • Mooser
      March 9, 2016, 1:32 pm

      “BTW if trump will be the Republican candidate a racist white will receive a majority of American white votes, including some here.”

      So you’ve been thinking about voting for Trump, “Yonah”? Good for you! Keep the US-Embassy-in-Jerusalem and rebuilt Trump Temple firmly in mind, and you’ll know how to cast your vote.

  18. James Michie
    March 9, 2016, 8:57 am

    “Most Jews want to expel Palestinians”? Excuse me, Phil and Adam, but wasn’t that the core “objective” of establishing a Jewish state, beginning in 1948, by stealing and/or destroying at gunpoint Palestinian villages, homes, businesses, farms and property and either killing and/or driving out Palestinians from their lands? Here’s a more accurate headline for your piece: “Pew Survey confirms 1948 purpose of establishing a ‘Jewish state”.

    • MHughes976
      March 10, 2016, 3:26 am

      Ever since the Zionist Congress of 1905, which fixed explicitly on Palestine, it was clear that the non-Jewish local population would have to make way. What else? They had, on the Zionist view, no inherent right to be there and it would be wrong to treat them as if they had. They were few and poor and it would not be difficult to find other places for the great majority where they would be happier. On the other hand, a non-threatening minority would always be welcome to stay by an act of grace. To this day, I think, the final act is conceived as one of conciliation – compensation, new lives, ceremonial handshakes, a grateful minority settling down to run the lavishly funded Museum of Palestine. Of course some recalcitrant elements would need a firmer hand.

  19. Dan Walsh
    March 9, 2016, 1:07 pm

    Zionism’s foundational principles rest upon efforts to control and manage the demographics of historic Palestine. These population-shifting tactics are nothing new and we should not be surprised at Pew’s findings. “Ingathering” was, and is, a central tenet of political Zionism as is the removal of as many indigenous Palestinians as possible. Herzl, Weizmann, Dayan, Eban, Ben Gurion and Meir were all infamously outspoken about Zionism’s plans to depopulate historic Palestine of Palestinians.

    For example: “We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village.” ­Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion. Source: Wikipedia

    There are many Palestinian-published posters carrying these quotes. Here are some Zionist-published posters on the subject of ingathering, ethnic-cleansing, de-population and transfer:

    One Million In Israel – On To the Second Million

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/one-million-in-israel-on-to-the-second-million

    and:

    In this poster Ben Gurion is portrayed as being the dupe of both Kennedy and Nasser relative to Return:

    He Has Agreed With Kennedy To Return Them

    and:

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/he-has-agreed-with-kennedy-to-return-them

    and:

    The counterpoint to “transfer” and expulsion-of-Palestinians is Jewish immigration/aliya:

    Stand Up and Be Counted

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/stand-up-and-be-counted

    and:

    For the Expansion of Jewish Settlement

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/for-the-expansion-of-jewish-settlement

    and:

    Growth Versus Siege!

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/growth-versus-siege

    To see more posters on the subject of aliya/transfer/depopulation go here:

    http://www.palestineposterproject.org/special-collection/aliyahemigrationimmigrationtransfercolonizationinternal-displacementrelocation

  20. yonah fredman
    March 9, 2016, 4:19 pm

    The rightward trend of the Israeli electorate, including the extremist “solution” of expulsion, is the result of a few factors:

    Demographics: The Jewish communities who are reproducing at greater rates than ZPG are all right wing: Mizrahi, black hat Orthodox and knitted yarmulke Orthodox are these growing communities, white European secularists have few kids. Add to this the Russian immigrants, who unlike their forbearers who made the trek from Russia still harboring illusions about the socialist revolution, these more recent Russian immigrants suffered the slings and arrows of socialism for 70 or so years and thus tended towards Reagan conservatism and therefore vote right wing. (Mention must be made regardingn American olim since ’67, who have been primarily religious rather than the aliyas from Eastern Europe and to a lesser degree central Europe in the 30’s and before who were primarily secular.)

    Unending war: If the people have hope of some negotiated agreement then there is pressure to adjust to new realities and to see negotiated agreements as the mode by which tensions and conflict will be resolved. Close the road to negotiated agreement, the people are still hungry for resolution and the logic of the simplistic expulsion plan increases in its appeal.

    Poor leadership: Bibi crystallizes the epitome of hopelessness in his “in your face” personality, and even though previous prime ministers are mostly to blame for the current Israeli position, Bibi’s presence is the face of this hopelessness.

    • Annie Robbins
      March 9, 2016, 4:37 pm

      bringing in a million rightwing russians was a calculated plan to shift the trajectory of the political leanings of the country. and it worked too.

      • yonah fredman
        March 10, 2016, 3:12 am

        annie robbins- Do you have any proof of this calculation? Or any source for this speculation?

      • amigo
        March 10, 2016, 4:28 pm

        “annie robbins- Do you have any proof of this calculation? Or any source for this speculation?”yonah , ( not the full article ) fredman.

        You could try this link and you will only need to read the first line.No need for you to read the full article.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_Post-Soviet_aliyah

      • yonah fredman
        March 10, 2016, 7:22 pm

        amigo- Mooser’s apt pupil. increasing the dreck percentage in the comments section.

      • Mooser
        March 11, 2016, 10:30 am

        “increasing the dreck percentage in the comments section.”

        “Yonah”, I’m sorry, but you are in error. I checked immediately, and there is no statistic for “drek percentage in comments” to be found in Google analytics.

        Why, they don’t even separate the negative from the positive comments! Don’t care what you say, as long as you say something.

      • oldgeezer
        March 11, 2016, 11:27 am

        @Mooser

        The laughable part is 90 minutes later he complains about tone.

      • yonah fredman
        March 13, 2016, 3:59 am

        oldgeezer- The level of amigo and mooser is fine, if that’s what you want.

        your tone the other day was actually well within political discourse, although obviously your point was wrong. Phil was saying something against the religion or against all religion. And you refused to admit that. Show that piece that Phil wrote to 7 out of 10 journalism or history students, they would come to the same conclusion as me.

      • amigo
        March 13, 2016, 12:13 pm

        “oldgeezer- The level of amigo and mooser is fine, if that’s what you want. ” yonah fredman

        Yonah , you asked Annie to back up her claim .I provided you with a link.I even pointed out that you only needed to invest the minimum of intellectual effort by reading the first line.You refused and proceeded to post your own “drek”.

        I don,t think your level of intellectual laziness or dishonesty is what most people here prefer.

        You set yourself up as a target of derision when you post comments on articles that you admit you have not read.You have zero credibility on this site Yonah.Deal with it.

      • oldgeezer
        March 13, 2016, 2:54 pm

        @yonah

        Well not surprisingly we still disagree. Surprisingly or not we are now closer to being in agreement. We are closer to agreement as you moved your goal posts.

        Phil was indeed saying something against religious instruction/all religions. That is not what you claimed in your first post whatsoever. Your first only suggested that Phil was targetting Jews and Judaism in his article.

        Yonah, regardless of your personal religious beliefs, to deny that religion has been at the heart of bigotry, racism and unspeakable crimes against humanity is to be deaf, dumb and blind. That is not to say religions are evil but that they are easily manipulated, or used, as a focal point to gain widespread support for evil actions. This has been documented not only in the bible but in other records of history. It is witnessed particularly throughout, but not limited to, the middle east in the modern times. Religious education, unless one is majoring in the study of religions, is not education but indoctrination. It does not serve humanity and it does not belong in an educational institute.

        But did Phil attack Judaism specifically? Absolutely not and his observations about the linkages between religion and bigotry/racism are spot on. Ask any Protestant or Catholic.

        To wander off topic slightly the current attempts to meld Judaism and zionism are dangerous. One can only assume that the desire is to gain protection for the discussion and criticism of zionism. The end result will be that Judaism will be open to debate as a political movement. Any sane person who cares about people of the Jewish faith should be resisting this false equivalency. It does not bode well for people of that faith if it continues. And that will be another wrong piled upon those that came before.

      • Mooser
        March 14, 2016, 3:26 pm

        ” The end result will be that Judaism will be open to debate as a political movement.”

        It’s even worse than that. Once the Zionists decided (as they have been doing for so long) they have the right to take life and land on that basis and seem ready to completely destroy peoples on that basis, certainly any rhetorical weapon, any social weapon can be fairly put into play.

        Sorry.

      • Mooser
        March 14, 2016, 3:28 pm

        “Show that piece that Phil wrote to 7 out of 10 journalism or history students, they would come to the same conclusion as me.”

        The entire article was rigidly fact-checked by 4 out of 5 dentists who chew gum.

    • Mooser
      March 9, 2016, 6:04 pm

      “The Jewish communities who are reproducing at greater rates than ZPG are all right wing: Mizrahi, black hat Orthodox and knitted yarmulke Orthodox are these growing communities, white European secularists have few kids.”

      So the headgear really helps, huh? Okay, it sounds a little hokey to me, but a guy is obligated to try and turn that romantic spark into an eternal light when he’s married. So, should I wear the Orthodox black hat or Orthodox knitted yarmulke, well, before, or during?

      “white European secularists have few kids.”

      Isn’t that funny. And with so much, to look forward to, and such wonderful opportunities for their kids in Israel! They can be part of the Jewish destiny of reclaiming their ancestral homeland. Gosh, you would think that alone would get them in the kid-making mood. Don’t understand it.

    • Mooser
      March 9, 2016, 6:08 pm

      “Close the road to negotiated agreement, the people are still hungry for resolution and the logic of the simplistic expulsion plan increases in its appeal”

      Got a high opinion of Isrelis, don’t you “Yonah”?

      And if they want it, are “hungry for the resolution” (“Yonah” try not to make them sound positively anthropophagistic, would ya?) they’re gonna have it?

  21. W.Jones
    March 9, 2016, 10:45 pm

    For their part, here’s what the Arab Israelis think:
    http://www.christianitytoday.com/images/68207.png?h=337&w=309

    Notice the Christians’ views are strongest.

  22. Atlantaiconoclast
    March 10, 2016, 1:04 am

    I keep asking my liberal Jewish FB friends how they can call Trump racist when they never criticize Israel’s truly racist immigration system, its wall, and its laws. Not one can answer me. They just keep screaming “Trump is a racist.” NO self awareness about their own ethnocentrism.

  23. NickJOCW
    March 10, 2016, 4:04 am

    If the Palestinians are ever to regain their homeland, it is desirable, if not indeed essential, that plans be laid, ideally at a UN level, to determine where the evacuated settlers are to go. It was bad enough for Palestinians themselves but at least they were able to flee to refuge, however primitive, in neighbouring countries. But where would settlers go? I doubt there is a nation on earth would accept them. What are they to do? Invade Jordan? Requisition Lebanon? It’s all very well wanting them cleared from stolen land but where are they to go? I have never seen any reason why Jews should not have a land of their own and maintain they own customs in it if that is what they want, but not by ousting indigenous inhabitants. Look at the problems bona fide refugees face, the heart rending scenes and stories, and just imagine the media attention settlers would get. And it would be worse for settlers because refugees drowning in the Aegean are victims whereas it would require a Papal level of humanity to see settlers in that light.

    • diasp0ra
      March 10, 2016, 5:30 am

      @NickJOCW

      What settlers exactly are you talking about? Are we talking about settlers in the Golan and West Bank, or are you referring to all Israelis as settlers?

      If the first, then they can go back to Israel.

      If the second, I don’t think Palestinians at this point think that they can push every single Jewish Israeli out of historical Palestine. I don’t think that’s desirable either. Even the old agenda of the PFLP and similar groups called for the abolition of Zionism and for one state where everyone is equal.

    • talknic
      March 10, 2016, 9:14 am

      @ NickJOCW March 10, 2016, 4:04 am

      “If the Palestinians are ever to regain their homeland, it is desirable, if not indeed essential, that plans be laid, ideally at a UN level, to determine where the evacuated settlers are to go”

      If they’re Israeli, they can go to Israel.

      “It was bad enough for Palestinians themselves but at least they were able to flee to refuge, however primitive, in neighbouring countries. But where would settlers go?”

      If they’re Israeli, Israel!

      “I doubt there is a nation on earth would accept them. What are they to do? Invade Jordan? Requisition Lebanon?”

      Go to Israel!!

      “It’s all very well wanting them cleared from stolen land but where are they to go? “

      ISRAEL!!!

      ” Look at the problems bona fide refugees face, the heart rending scenes and stories, and just imagine the media attention settlers would get”

      They wouldn’t be refugees, they have a state, ISRAEL!!!!

      ” And it would be worse for settlers because refugees drowning in the Aegean are victims whereas it would require a Papal level of humanity to see settlers in that light”

      THEY CAN GO TO ISRAEL!!!!!!

      • bryan
        March 10, 2016, 9:35 am

        Talknic – what a typically heartless response: they may be Israelis, but were they to return to Israel they would face housing shortages, high cost of housing, underinvestment in infrastructure, inferior social and educational facilities, higher taxation and a host of other penalties. In addition, were Israel to become just a normal society the generous funding currently provided to illegal settlements by American philanthropists would surely be diminished, if not turned off. Have a heart, man!

      • talknic
        March 10, 2016, 10:19 am

        @ bryan

        ;-)

      • Kay24
        March 10, 2016, 10:57 am

        If Nutty had the arrogance to invite Jews from every corner of the earth, even India, to come and squat in illegal settlements built on stolen land, it is not anyone else’s responsibility to find accommodation for those squatters, when the time comes for them to vacate illegal housing. Let Israel build upwards and accommodate all those who took a risk to live in some else’s land, and keep the whole lot within the 1967 borders. What Israel has sown, they must reap.

      • eljay
        March 10, 2016, 11:05 am

        || Kay24: … What Israel has sown, they must reap. ||

        Yeah, but sowing is fun. Reaping is just anti-Semitic. :-(

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 6:03 pm

        Are the various settlers ‘citizens of Israel’? or are they not. I don’t think being a ‘citizen of Israel’ or even legal residency in Israel is required to be a “settler”. But I don’t know.

        But certainly they will go back to the countries they are citizens of. Well, an awful lot of them may have to be detained and investigated and tried.

      • amigo
        March 11, 2016, 2:31 pm

        . “Well, an awful lot of them may have to be detained and investigated and tried” Mooser.

        Quite so but the Palestinian authorities will be busy building their institutions and demolishing zionist structures and replacing road signs and removing road blocks and the security wall , they may have to apply the Israeli laws of administrative detention for a decade or so.There will be lots of work for the squatters to do so they won,t feel unwanted or not part of the new State.Of course they will not resist as that would be terrorism –eh.

  24. Ossinev
    March 10, 2016, 7:02 am

    @NickJOCW
    “But where would settlers go? I doubt there is a nation on earth would accept them”

    Sorry Nick I had to fight back the tears (of laughter) on this one

    Israel where they come from ? Brooklyn where they come from. Paris where they come from ?Toronto where they come from ? etc etc ad nauseam ad nauseam. In the case of Israel they can just phone ahead to their Fascist cousins in the Land of Creation next door , pack the furniture in a van and 20 -45 minutes later using the Jews only highways ( no annoying refugee style checkpoints ) they can be settling down to a nice get together. In the other cases it would be a little more inconvenient (how annoying and sad for them ). They would have to retrieve their first passports from the drawer get on the internet and book their flights.

    To compare these self centred lunatic tossers to refugees in any way is mind boggling.

    • NickJOCW
      March 10, 2016, 10:57 am

      Well, I’m greatly relieved it will prove that easy. I had visions of weeping, wailing, and worse..

  25. yonah fredman
    March 10, 2016, 7:26 am

    The numbers quoted by Pew regarding expulsion has been under intense scrutiny and dispute and is attributed to the poor phrasing of the question that Pew posed.

    http://linkis.com/www.algemeiner.com/2/GZDhf

    • Sibiriak
      March 10, 2016, 11:10 am

      See also:

      http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.707589

      …Israel Prize laureate Sammy Smooha, a professor of sociology at the University of Haifa, has criticized the wording of the transfer query in the Pew survey.

      […]Smooha explained that the question as phrased did not specify the identity of candidates for expulsion, so that it’s possible that respondents thought it referred to the transfer of West Bank residents who reside in Israel proper but are not Israeli citizens per se. Moreover, the sociologist said it does not state whether the expulsion would affect all Arab citizens in Israel, or only those who support the country’s enemies or are deemed to be subversive. “In other words, this question can be understood in various ways,” he said.

      He also believes that the poll “reflects alienation and disgust with the Arabs more than it attests to agreement to grant legitimacy to the government to expel them, [because] the statement presented in the survey is unrealistic and unfeasible.”

      Since 2003, Smooha himself has been researching the relations between the country’s Jewish and Arab citizens.

      “It’s absolutely clear to me that about a quarter of the Jews oppose coexistence with the Arab citizens, but the vast majority of Jews accepts coexistence,” he noted. “Among the Arab public, too, between a quarter and a third oppose coexistence. On both sides there is a population that rules out coexistence, but they won’t set the rules. That will be done by the mainstream, which is prepared to make concessions to the other side.”

      Added Smooha: “The Jews have complex positions. While they wouldn’t object if Arabs left the country, they don’t want the government to initiate such a move. The Jews have come to understand that the Arabs are here to stay and that they have to get along, and they don’t want to upset everything or sabotage coexistence.”

      • oldgeezer
        March 10, 2016, 2:15 pm

        Smooha sounds like he’s spewing apologetics in response to an embarrassing result. The ISraeli prize is mentioned to lend him credibility whereas it is merely a political award and not one denoting academic work or excellence.

        He is correct that the question could be interpreted any way by the listener. Three percent may have thought the question specified Martians for that matter.

        That erroneous interpretation doesn’t invalidate the question. Similarly the lack of qualification of the term Arabs results in a perfectly reasonable expectation that the questionner refers to all. It requires a leap of logic to implement your own subset criteria onto a question. This is the same kind of obfuscation used by zionists over res 242.

        That the Jewish support, according to his research, is a fixed 25% whereas the Arab support in the opposite direction is presented as a range, the lower bound of which starts at the same level, tellingly reveals his idealogical bent.

        Smooha is the wild eyed inventor of the term “Ethnic Democracy”. The creation of such a term is required to justify calling Israel a democracy of course. What a surprise! Ethnic democracy is an oxymoron.

        He actually considers Israel to be a shining example of ethnic democracy which others countries should follow. Cough cough. Of course elsewhere he concedes Israelis aren’t prepared to share any of the power structure with Palestinians. Nor do they wish to remove any of the restrictions placed upon Palestinians.

        Shining example of apartheid perhaps. Shining example of any form of democracy? No. It’s a bad enough example he had to create the term to begin with. Surprisingly enough there was already a term for what he describes and that’s ethnocracy.

        Israel Prize
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Prize

        Ethnic Democracy
        http://img2.tapuz.co.il/CommunaFiles/32398285.pdf
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_democracy

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocracy

        http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01419870.1990.9993679?journalCode=rers20

      • oldgeezer
        March 10, 2016, 2:28 pm

        One question begs. If Israelis are so proud of their country why don’t they acknowledge what it is? Why pretend it’s a democracy? Why invent new (and redundant) terms for it?

        The only answer I can come up with is they need to believe it is something else as they know it’s immoral and wrong. Maybe I give them too much credit for having morality though.

      • Mooser
        March 10, 2016, 6:26 pm

        “Smooha sounds like he’s spewing apologetics in response to an embarrassing result.”

        And trying hard, and failing miserably, at trying to sound objective and disinterested.

  26. justicewillprevail
    March 13, 2016, 6:10 pm

    I daresay there will be an article about it, but this is wonderful news:

    “The Duke of Cambridge has paid tribute to the “incredible work” of the teaching profession as a Nobel-style award worth $1m was handed to a teacher from Palestine.

    Hanan al-Hroub, who works with children who have grown up exposed to violence, was given the second annual Global Teacher prize at a star-studded ceremony in Dubai.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/13/palestinian-teacher-wins-global-prize-worth-1m

    “Hroub grew up in the Bethlehem refugee camp, and was regularly exposed to violence. She went into primary education after her own children were left traumatised from witnessing a shooting on their way home from school.”

    Even better how the Israelis will have to acknowledge her, through their bitter, clenched teeth, lol.

    • oldgeezer
      March 13, 2016, 7:32 pm

      @justice

      No doubt Jon s will be heart broken that his many years teaching a fictional narrative have not been recognized. No doubt due to his victim status and nothing to do with his fictional propaanda. I’m sure it’s tough learning your lines.

      Kudos to her!

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