Ibrahim ‘the half bodied,’ an icon of Gaza skirmishes, loses his other half for Jerusalem

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The narrow streets of the 70 acres of Gaza City’s densely crowded Beach refugee camp were never so quiet as today. The poor camp on the western part of the city is famous for starting life too early every day, with the fuss of street vendors, donkey cart drivers and the vegetable market, which is filled with customers by 6:30 am.

All of these faded this morning, one day after Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, 29, was shot dead during skirmishes with the Israeli army east of the city.

In front of his old family home, Abu Thurayeh’s friends began to set up a condolence tent for his relatives and neighbors. His 27-year-old cousin Mahmoud Abu Thurayeh was delivering the chairs shortly before mourners arrived.

Funeral of Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, killed at a demonstration on Gaza border, December 15, 2017. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

“Ibrahim has always been the first to offer help to set up such tents for the martyrs of the camp,” Mahmoud said. “But today it seems he will not, forever”.

Ibrahim had lost his legs in an Israeli attack on Al-Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza. He was injured in 2008 by an Israeli helicopter that targeted him after he took down an Israeli flag along the border and raised a Palestinian one.

Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, at a demonstration on the Gaza border on December 8, 2017. Abu Thurayeh was killed a week later. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

Since that time, he has been active in the clashes–until he was killed with a bullet above his eye fired by an Israeli soldier.

About 150 Palestinians were injured and four were killed near the border fence in Gaza on a day of clashes that erupted also in the West Bank in protest of the U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, on a pylon with a Palestinian flag, at a demonstration on Gaza border at a demonstration on the Gaza border some weeks ago. Abu Thurayeh was killed Dec. 15, 2017. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

In a video clip two days before his death, Ibrahim said he had come to participate in the clashes in Nahal Oz (east of Gaza) because he wanted to cross the occupied land on the other side of the barbed wire border even once in his life. But his dream ended with a fatal shot.

“The Israeli army is cowardly and does not appear to fight except behind the concrete cubes,” he added in the video. “We only have small stones that reach only 50 meters, and every day I will come crawling on my hands.”

“I am here to deliver a message to those soldiers: ‘This is our land and we will not give up. The United States should withdraw its declaration over Jerusalem.'”

Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, climbing a pylon by the border of Gaza with Palestinian flag, at a demonstration on the Gaza border some weeks ago. Abu Thurayeh was killed Dec. 15, 2017. Photo by Mohamed Asad. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

Losing his legs did not mean he was helpless, said Sameer Abu Thurayeh, 32, Ibrahim’s brother: “My brother was an icon of confrontations and was always found in the first rows. He lost his feet 10 years ago because he replaced the Israeli flag on the border, and yesterday was killed while a small Palestine flag was in his lap.”

“Ibrahim came here only to express his anger at the Trump’s declaration, so he was the victim of murder,” Sameer said, adding that the Israeli soldier “was involved in killing a young man without feet crawling on the ground.”

The older bereaved brother, who took part in Ibrahim’s funeral, recalled for Mondoweiss their last conversation during breakfast last Wednesday. Ibrahim saw that the demonstrations were becoming deadly. “Mom, bro… please forgive me for any mistake I have ever did, I have lost my legs for my country and I think that is not enough, I must sacrifice my whole body for the sacrifice of the homeland,” Ibrahim said.

Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh at a demonstration on the Gaza border some weeks ago. Abu Thurayeh was killed Dec. 15, 2017. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

“I did not know a friend or a brother but Ibrahim,” Sameer said. “Israel robbed me of everything. Why they fear a wheelchair bound man?”

At the morgue doors of Shifa Hospital, a crowd of relatives and associates from the skirmishes gathered to catch a final glimpse of his body. I met Nael Abu al-Reesh, 23, who apparently had not changed his clothes since the clashes erupted a week ago. I could smell the fumes of burning tires, while his sweater was filled with bits of dry grass picked up on the eastern border.

Funeral of Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh, killed at a demonstration on Gaza border, December 15, 2017. Photo by Mohammed Asad.

“Once we arrived at the confrontation on Friday afternoon, I was pushing Ibrahim’s wheelchair at his request to the nearest soldiers’ point. He was carrying a slingshot and a small flag,” Nael said.

“Suddenly a soldier raised his thumb.” The soldier’s look said, you are doing a wonderful job guys and I will show you something soon, Nael said. “In a minute we were rained with dozens of gas bombs and everything turned like fog. I felt that I had lost the wheelchair handles and no longer heard the words ‘Push me more forward.'”

“After a few seconds, I found Ibrahim’s forehead bleeding heavily, there was a hole above his left eye, and then I realized that his soul had gone forever,” Nael said, standing near an ambulance preparing for his funeral.

“I will go back to Nahal Oz now. I feel there is a duty to do over there,” Nael told Mondoweiss.

While those young men in the West Bank and Gaza confront Israel with stones, Israeli soldiers fire rubber bullets and live ammunition.

Since Trump has turned his back on decades of U.S. and international diplomacy by saying Jerusalem is the Israeli capital, the international community warned of uncontrollable reactions, and Hamas vowed to open “doors of hell” and called for a “new intifada.” Demonstrations have swept the Palestinian territories. Eight Palestinians have died and hundreds have been injured in clashes with the Israeli army, while dozens have been arrested.

All photographs by Mohammed Asad. 

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  1. Sergio Lima
    December 16, 2017, 12:57 pm

    This literally broke my heart! May you rest in peace, Ibrahim Abu Thurayeh! Shame on Israel and on indifference of the Jewish communities around the world in front of these horrible acts of violence!

  2. Maghlawatan
    December 16, 2017, 3:55 pm

    Shot in the head by an indoctrinated Zionist. I was going to say Jew but Israelis are no longer Jewish. Judaism was never nihilistic.

  3. Maghlawatan
    December 16, 2017, 5:37 pm

    I am pretty sure Israel will end with all non Palestinians herded into gaza following capitulation by the IDF. And they will be picked off at will because what goes around comes around.

    • eljay
      December 17, 2017, 12:26 pm

      || Maghlawatan: I am pretty sure Israel will end with all non Palestinians herded into gaza following capitulation by the IDF. And they will be picked off at will because what goes around comes around. ||

      You may be right, but I really hope you’re wrong. The Palestinians would truly be a moral beacon to the world if they were to look to justice, accountability and equality – and not bloodthirsty vengeance – to right the on-going wrongs of the Zionist nightmare.

      • Maghlawatan
        December 18, 2017, 4:16 am

        Zionism is fanatical so a linear outcome is unlikely.

  4. Naftush
    December 17, 2017, 2:21 am

    The story has the smell of being too good. It’s got everything — malevolent Je.. er, Zionists who’ve murdered someone whom they’d already crippled, a selfless victim whose soul yearned only for his lost homeland and capital, even a swipe at mendacious America. Its weakness is that there is no IDF policy of shooting people dead for raising Palestinian flags. Even before Oslo such flags flew under soldiers’ noses without response. One expects additional details to smother this account in further contradictions. But never mind, if it encourages responses such as Maghwalatan’s — wishing mass murder of “all non Palestinians” — it serves the cause, eh?

    • JosephA
      December 17, 2017, 8:42 am

      Your doubting this journalist’s account serves the racist (zionist) colonialist cause. I am appreciating your morality right now. You are probably happy that another innocent, indigenous Palestinian is dead. Guess what is worse than a murderer with no conscience? An apologist with no conscience. Your posting smells of rotten hasbara.

      • Naftush
        December 17, 2017, 1:39 pm

        Several times I’ve called out MW contributors for editing reportage or interviews to conform to scripts. One contributor more-or-less acknowledged it and none to date has answered the charge topically. As for serving a racist cause, your strategy of dehumanizing the questioner does it rather well.

      • Mooser
        December 17, 2017, 1:52 pm

        “Its weakness is that there is no IDF policy of shooting people dead for raising Palestinian flags.” “Naftush”

        Just goes to show you, “Naftush”, you can’t count too much on the Mod’s Holiday spirit. It has its limits.

      • Mooser
        December 17, 2017, 2:30 pm

        “As for serving a racist cause….”

        The “racist cause” is of course, racism against the race of Jews?
        Isn’t it wonderful how our racination is both the source of our troubles, and the source of our privilege? And each or the other at the very time we need it!

      • amigo
        December 17, 2017, 4:21 pm

        “Several times I’ve called out MW contributors for editing reportage or interviews to conform to scripts. One contributor more-or-less acknowledged it and none to date has answered the charge topically.” Naftoosh.

        Hey , do not tolerate these impudent gnomes.

        Set up your own blog and control the agenda and narrative.The bonus will be your ability to “expel” anyone who practices intellectual honesty or attempts to deviate from the zionist truth.

        Don,t worry about us here , we will manage somehow .

      • Mooser
        December 19, 2017, 9:51 pm

        “Several times I’ve called out MW contributors for…” “Naftush”

        You’re like me. You like to make people laugh, even if they are laughing at you. That’s a generous, giving way to be, “Naftush”.

        And what a comic conceit! A Zionist, (and an especially thick one, too) posing as an objective, disinterested (and oh so helpful) critic of Mondoweiss. It’d make a great skit for Shabbos Night Live.

    • Talkback
      December 17, 2017, 9:25 am

      Naftush: “Its weakness is that there is no IDF policy of shooting people dead for raising Palestinian flags.”

      ROFL Cause we all know that the IDF only follows policies. Especially its medics.

      What a pathetic attempt, Naftush. Really pathetic.

      • Naftush
        December 17, 2017, 1:45 pm

        Pathetic is as pathetic does. Palestinian flags were hoisted all over the territories long before Oslo and a fortiori after. The author claims that this man lost both legs for doing this and that he had been targeted. Possible but unlikely, like the rest of the article too “good” to be true. If you had been the contributor, I bet you’d have identified the shooter as a medic just for the pathos value of it.

      • Talkback
        December 17, 2017, 4:11 pm

        Naftush: “Pathetic is as pathetic does.”

        So you are self aware.

        “Palestinian flags were hoisted all over the territories long before Oslo and a fortiori after.”

        Before Oslo the flag was banned and Palestinians were imprisoned. And sicve Oslo some were still targeted and punished by the terrorist wing of the Zionist Apartheid Junta. Even in 2013 they detained and interrogated Palestinians for raising Palestinian flags on their cars in Jerusalem and eight others were pulled over by traffic police and fined 250 shekels ($65) for having Palestinian flags on their cars.”

        Naftush: “The author claims that this man lost both legs for doing this and that he had been targeted. Possible but unlikely, like the rest of the article too “good” to be true.”

        Pathetic Naftush, absolutely pathetic. His brother made the claim. But he must be a liar, because nobody has lost any legs after being targeted by Israel’s institutionalized terrorists, right?

        Naftush: “f you had been the contributor, I bet you’d have identified the shooter as a medic just for the pathos value of it.”

        Of course. Because it would be also to good to be true that Israel’s medics murder defenseless Nonjews, right? Possible , but unlikely. Like you being honest.

      • just
        December 17, 2017, 5:03 pm

        ‘Naftush’~ you’re not only pathetic, you are also an immoral Israeli Zionist (probably another ‘settler’), squatting on Palestinian land which you call “the territories”.

        Here’s Gideon Levy’s video about this deliberate murder:

        https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/942496831585554432

        Here’s his article:

        “… The Israeli Military First Took His Legs, Then His Life

        The Israeli army sharpshooter couldn’t target the lower part of his victim’s body — Ibrahim Abu Thuraya didn’t have one. The 29-year-old, who worked washing cars and who lived in Gaza City’s Shati refugee camp, lost both legs from the hips down in an Israeli airstrike during Operation Cast Lead in 2008. He used a wheelchair to get around. On Friday the army finished the job: A sharpshooter aimed at his head and shot him dead.

        The images are horrific: Abu Thuraya in his wheelchair, pushed by friends, calling for protests against the U.S. declaration recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital; Abu Thuraya on the ground, crawling toward the fence behind which the Gaza Strip is imprisoned; Abu Thuraya waving a Palestinian flag; Abu Thuraya holding up both arms in the victory sign; Abu Thuraya carried by his friends, bleeding to death; Abu Thuraya’s corpse laid out on a stretcher: The End.

        The army sharpshooter couldn’t aim at the lower part of his victim’s body on Friday so he shot him in the head and killed him.

        It can be assumed that the soldier realized that he was shooting at a person in a wheelchair, unless he was shooting indiscriminately into the crowd of protesters.

        Abu Thuraya posed no danger to anyone: How much of a danger could a double amputee in a wheelchair, imprisoned behind a fence, constitute? How much evil and insensitivity does it take in order to shoot a handicapped person in a wheelchair? Abu Thuraya was not the first, nor will he be the last, Palestinian with disabilities to be killed by soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces — the most moral soldiers in the world, or not.

        The killing of the young disabled man passed almost without mention in Israel. He was one of three demonstrators killed Friday, just another humdrum day. One can easily imagine what would happen if Palestinians had killed an Israeli who used a wheelchair. What a furor would have erupted, with endless ink spilled on their cruelty and barbarism. How many arrests would have resulted, how much blood would have flowed in retaliation. But when soldiers behave barbarically, Israel is silent and shows no interest. No shock, no shame, no pity. An apology or expression of regret or remorse is the stuff of fantasy. The idea of holding those responsible for this criminal killing accountable is also delusional. Abu Thuraya was a dead man once he dared take part in his people’s protest and his killing is of no interest to anyone, since he was a Palestinian.

        The Gaza Strip has been closed to Israeli journalists for 11 years, so one can only imagine the life of the car-washer from Shati before his death — how he recovered from his injuries in the absence of decent rehabilitation services in the besieged Strip, with no chance of obtaining prosthetic legs; how he rumbled along in an old wheelchair, not an electric one, in the sandy alleys of his camp; how he continued washing cars despite his disability, since there are no other choices in Shati, including for people with disabilities; and how he continued struggling with his friends … .

        No Israeli could imagine life in that cage, the biggest in the world, the one called the Gaza Strip. It is part of a never-ending mass experiment on human beings.

        One should see the desperate young people who approached the fence in Friday’s demonstration, armed with stones that couldn’t reach anywhere, throwing them through the cracks in the bars behind which they are trapped.

        These young people have no hope in their lives, even when they have two legs to walk on. Abu Thuraya had even less hope.

        There is something pathetic yet dignified in the photo of him raising the Palestinian flag, given his dual confinement — in his wheelchair and in his besieged country.

        The story of Abu Thuraya is an accurate reflection of the circumstances of his people. Shortly after he was photographed, his tormented life came to an end. When people cry out every week: “Netanyahu to Maasiyahu [prison]” someone should finally also start talking about The Hague.”

        read more: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.829384

        “Too good to be true”? I am almost positive that you would support giving the IOF coward and immoral “sharpshooter” a medal… you probably also revere the grotesque war criminal Elor Azaria, too.

      • Mooser
        December 22, 2017, 6:10 pm

        “Naftush”, if you want to be a powerful advocate for Israel, you need to have at least a nodding acquaintance with the mores and morals extant outside of Zionism.
        Unless it is your intent to let us know just how Zionists feel and think, of course. Do you think that is in Zionism’s best interest?

      • Mooser
        December 22, 2017, 6:50 pm

        ” Possible but unlikely, like the rest of the article too “good” to be true.”

        Gee, just think how much damage Israel could have done to the Palestinian narrative by not shooting a legless, weaponless man.
        Do you think it would have been worth the risk?

    • CigarGod
      December 17, 2017, 12:02 pm

      It’s not the only time.
      Does it matter if it is a legless man, a tomato picker or a bulldozer?

      ‘a nod’s as good as a wink to a blind horse.”

    • eljay
      December 17, 2017, 12:20 pm

      || Naftush: The story has the smell of being too good. … ||

      In 2008, “Jewish State” Occupation and Oppression Forces goons injure a non-Israeli man in not-Israel.
      In 2017, “Jewish State” Occupation and Oppression Forces goons kill a non-Israeli man in not-Israel.

      I can’t imagine what a story that does not have “the smell of being too good” smells like.

    • Mooser
      December 17, 2017, 1:42 pm

      ” — it serves the cause, eh?”

      “Naftush” I think your Israel has got what we in the crisis-management business (What, I’m not? Who isn’t, these days?)
      call a “perception management problem”.

      • gamal
        December 17, 2017, 2:46 pm

        “call a “perception management problem”. ”

        did you hear what they said…this can’t be real..

    • Maghlawatan
      December 18, 2017, 4:17 am

      Israel runs a shoot to kill policy in Gaza. Zionists love it.

    • Maghlawatan
      December 18, 2017, 4:21 am

      “But never mind, if it encourages responses such as Maghwalatan’s — wishing mass murder of “all non Palestinians” — it serves the cause, eh?”

      I missed that. Where is it?
      You can’t have an honest Zionist.

    • Misterioso
      December 18, 2017, 10:50 am

      @Naftush

      In short, BULL CRAP!!

    • Jerry Hirsch
      December 19, 2017, 11:58 am

      Exactly. When not a word is said surrounding the circumstances of his death, that absence begs us to find out the rest of the story.

      Thoraya purposely scaled the fence knowing full well his death would generate enormous propaganda value. Even though he was disabled, his climbing ability was quite impressive as can be seen in the photos here.

      “In a video clip two days before his death, Ibrahim said he had come to participate in the clashes in Nahal Oz (east of Gaza) because he wanted to cross the occupied land on the other side of the barbed wire border even once in his life. But his dream ended with a fatal shot.” Mondoweiss

      • Mooser
        December 19, 2017, 12:42 pm

        Ah, “Jerry Hirsch”, does Zionism know what a powerful advocate they have in you?
        You will help many people make up their minds about Zionism.

      • eljay
        December 19, 2017, 12:53 pm

        || Jerry Hirsch: Exactly. When not a word is said surrounding the circumstances of his death, that absence begs us to find out the rest of the story. … ||

        Indeed. jpost.com:

        … Photos showed Abu Thuraya being pushed on a wheelchair while advancing toward the border with the protesters … Tear gas canisters landed around the rioters, and at some point he left his wheelchair behind, crawling through the grass. The footage, after he was shot, shows him being pushed while slumped in his wheelchair and then carried away.

        Palestinians said he was shot in the head, and a Health Ministry spokesman in Gaza, Ashraf al-Kidra, claimed he was pronounced dead at Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital as a result of his wounds. …

        || … Thoraya [sic] purposely scaled the fence … ||

        Speaking of absence, where’s the link to a pic to substantiate your claim that a legless man scaled a “Jewish State” fence?

        (Not that it would justify his summary execution, mind you, but I am curious to see just how terrifying an apparition it must have been to cause a “Jewish State” soldier to commit murder.)

      • Mooser
        December 19, 2017, 10:08 pm

        “Jerry Hirsch”, you should really rent yourself out as a TBM.

  5. gamal
    December 17, 2017, 3:08 pm

    His main source of income was from car washing, to support his family

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/12/16/545805/-Israeli-kill-wheelchairbound-Palestinian-man-

  6. Kate
    December 19, 2017, 5:21 pm

    Don’t feed the troll, guys. It only encourages him.

  7. JLewisDickerson
    December 19, 2017, 8:04 pm

    MY COMMENT: In order to fully comprehend what Israel has become, one merely has to contemplate the striking similarities between:
    • the recent extra-judicial assassination by the IDF of Ibrahim Abu Thraya, the wheelchair-bound double amputee in Gaza, and
    • the murder of Leon Klinghoffer aboard the Achille Lauro in 1985. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Klinghoffer

    • JLewisDickerson
      December 19, 2017, 8:07 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE: “Netanyahu: Stupid Like a Fox?” | By Uri Avnery | Antiwar.com | June 13, 2011

      [EXCERPT] Last week, there was a repeat performance. The Palestinians all around Israel have declared June 5 “Naksa” Day, to commemorate the “Setback” of 1967, when Israel spectacularly defeated the armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, reinforced by elements from the Iraqi and Saudi armies.

      This time, the Israeli army was prepared. The fence was reinforced and an anti-tank ditch dug in front of it. When the demonstrators tried to reach the fence—again near Majdal Shams—they were shot by sharpshooters. Some 22 were killed, and many dozens were wounded. The Palestinians report that people trying to rescue the wounded and retrieve the dead were also shot and killed.

      No doubt this was a deliberate tactic decided upon in advance by the army command after the Naqba Day fiasco and approved by Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak. As was said quite openly, the Palestinians had to be taught a lesson they would not forget, so as to drive any idea of an unarmed mass action out of their minds.

      It is frighteningly reminiscent of events 10 years ago. After the first Intifada, in which stone-throwing youngsters and children won a moral victory that led to the Oslo agreement, our army conducted exercises in anticipation of a second Intifada. This broke out after the political disaster of Camp David, and the army was ready.

      The new [Second] Intifada started with mass demonstrations of unarmed Palestinians. They were met by specially trained sharpshooters. Next to each sharpshooter stood an officer who pointed out the individuals who were to be shot because they looked like ringleaders: “The guy in the red shirt… Now the boy with the blue trousers…”

      The unarmed uprising broke down and was replaced by suicide bombers, roadside bombs, and other “terrorist” acts. With those our army was on familiar ground.

      I suspect very much that we are witnessing much the same thing once more. Again, specially trained sharpshooters are at work, directed by officers. . .

      SOURCE – http://original.antiwar.com/avnery/2011/06/12/netanyahu-stupid-like-a-fox/kilhgj

    • Annie Robbins
      December 22, 2017, 5:57 pm

      it doesn’t change the fact they murdered him.

    • Mooser
      December 22, 2017, 6:41 pm

      “This is the gtg”

      Ah, good ol’ “mcohen”. He always demonstrates the cowardice of his convictions.

  8. mcohen..
    December 22, 2017, 8:24 pm

    Hi annie says…..”murdered him”

    Well i see it differently.
    regardless of who pulled the trigger he made a decision to martyr himself before the un vote.his story was immediately picked up by the usual media suspects and milked for all its worth.i call it

    Fake international news enabling….FINE

    More importantly it demonstrates the despair that is evident in this protacted conflict and the lengths leaders are prepared to go to draw attention to there causes.what is disappointing is the inability of hamas and fatah to agree on a path towards peace.it is interesting that ibrahim lost his one leg in fighting between fatah and hamas.
    To me this sums up the situation well

    1.the strategy behind the palestinian leadership to keep up the pretense of reconciliation to scuttle any peace deal with israel is a grave mistake.it is national suicide handed to them on a plate

    2.time is running out for the arab people.turkey is in the process of taking over water resources in syria and iraq and as global warming progresses the middle east will become less inhabitable.the same for egypt and its out of control population growth.

    3.national aspirations will be affected by population growth and finite water resources.the fact is that right of return is simply out of the question for both sides.

    4.the palestinian leadership must take the deal trump is offering.stop wasting resources on intifada’s.if i had the power to vouch for the jewish people i would say take the deal offered regardless.there will come a time when your people will be fairly rewarded.
    do it now before the slow creep of nationalism returns to europe.

    5.i support all countries to move there embassies to jerusalem.even if the idea does not truly reflect realities on the ground the possibilities of jerusalem becoming a spiritual light to the politics of the nations is a powerful incentive.
    after all in israel unlike many other countries politicians are jailed for there crimes.

    • Maghlawatan
      December 22, 2017, 11:33 pm

      Where to start?
      Time never runs out for rights.
      Israel is not stable
      It’s a Jewish protection racket. It’s pathetic.

      “There will come a time when you will be rewarded” Never trust a junkie.

      “Jerusalem becoming a spiritual light for the nations” is deluded.

      • MHughes976
        December 23, 2017, 3:27 pm

        Where to start is difficult indeed. I would agree that if Trump is going to act as a mediator his suggestions should not be dismissed lightly, though it may not be too difficult to dismiss them rationally. But the essence of mediation is to be, you know, in the middle, not to be identified from the start with one side. If it is presumed that his proposal will have been pre-settled with the Israelis and then dictated to the Palestinians that is not mediation at all.

    • Talkback
      December 23, 2017, 2:59 am

      mcohen: “Well i see it differently.”

      What a surprise. Let’s see how you are going to justify murder this time.

      mcohen: “regardless of who pulled the trigger …”

      Yes, that’s the general attitude in the Zionist Apartheid Junta.

      mcohen: “… he made a decision to martyr himself before the un vote.”

      Sure:
      “DARVO

      Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender. A behavior of perpetrators of wrongdoing (especially sexual offenders), when accused of attacking their victim, reversing the roles of victim and offender.
      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/DARVO

      Just add that you will never forgive him for being murdered by JSIL.

      mcohen: “4.the palestinian leadership must take the deal trump is offering.”

      Yep. They must subjugate to the will of Jews who claim to represent all Jews.

      mccohen: “5. i support all countries to move there embassies to jerusalem.”

      Of course you support war crimes. And if a war crime becomes systematic/wudrespread it becomes a crime against humanity.
      You support crimes against humanity.

      • Talkback
        December 23, 2017, 4:30 pm

        Seriously mcohen? An article by Alan Dershowitz? You gotta be kidding, right? Any of his lies you want me to debunk in particular by citing relevant Security Council Resolutions since 1967 and an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice?

        Obama didn’t change anything into illegal that wasn’t allready illegal since 1967. It’s not “disputed” only because your Apartheid Junta and its shysters want it to be.

      • Mooser
        December 23, 2017, 5:08 pm

        “Seriously mcohen? An article by Alan Dershowitz? “

        Seriously, he has recommended the article twice. Here and the “Team Trump” thread. He loves him some Dersh.

      • oldgeezer
        December 24, 2017, 8:51 am

        @mcohen

        From der douches of history wrt the 67 war started by Israel, thru Israel not illegally occupying and ending with everyone knew that….. he has inverted reality on it’s head. Works for the faithful, criminal and stupid but no one else.

    • Mooser
      December 23, 2017, 1:13 pm

      “5.i support all countries to move there embassies to jerusalem”

      But you’ll spend the rest of your life trashing that poor Catholic boarding-school.

      • mcohen..
        December 23, 2017, 2:51 pm

        Fuckwit

      • MHughes976
        December 23, 2017, 3:15 pm

        Oh come now, we have rules.

      • gamal
        December 23, 2017, 3:38 pm

        “Fuckwit”

        after slandering a murdered hero cohen finally triumphs “Fuckwit” backlit by the spiritual light of Zionism. like the settlers dumping excrement on people, Zionism has robbed you even of self respect.

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