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Born in Israel, fluent Hebrew speaker. Grew up in the states.

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• It's time for the media to talk about Zionism
  • Ori December 4, 2012 at 6:14 pm with 11 replies

    Very eloquently stated. As an Israeli-born American of 20+ years, I couldn't have put it better myself. My entire family is definitely steeped in Zionism because they have never known anything else. I desperately try to separate them from it, but frankly, who wants to apologize about the conditions of their birth or their existence? I completely agree with the article, however, I would like to see some intellectual consistency, with the criticism of religious-based nationalism extended to Muslim countries. If we oppose Israel from the point of view that 'Jewish and democratic' is an oxymoron that produces oppression, why can we not acknowledge that Muslim and sharia-based nationalist ideology is equally destructive? Is it because the Muslims are brown and poor (miskenim)? Isn't that a little patronizing to consider 'Jews and liberals to be "above" Zionism' but say that a mirrored ideology is alright and appropriate for Muslims and Arabs. I just cannot wrap my head around that sort of self-righteousness, as in, specifically directed at Israel and Zionism (which I personally am no fan of).

• Israeli urges world to 'deny us business and culture' to force change from militancy
  • Ori November 21, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    What the hell, we're talking about the Bronze Age now? Are you criticizing Israel or the entire existence of Jewish people since the Bronze Age?

  • Ori November 21, 2012 at 3:50 pm with 5 replies

    You do know that's a mis-characterization of Zionism right? I mean, it may have resulted in extreme oppression against the Native peoples, but that wasn't the goal. I mean, if you think the goal was to gather millions of refugee Jews from Europe and settle them in Palestine simply to harass and disposes the native population, then you are sorely, sorely misinformed. Zionism is just like any other religion. The Muslims built their states based on the mythology of the Quran and the concept of their religion/tribe being superior. Zionism sought to establish a state for Jews, based on the history and mythology of Judaism and people who call themselves Jews. There was no target in the Palestinians. It was the callous dismissal of their existence, and the continuation thereof, that created the situation they/we are in. Jews weren't sitting in Europe, thinking how awesome it would be to occupy the Palestinians. I wonder how many people who criticize Israel are even honest enough with themselves to understand Zionism. Even the American colonial enterprise was based on settlement of the land, not oppression of the people.

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