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The verdict against teaching evolution, in the Scopes trial, was delivered in
July 1925. The Levy Report concluding that Israel’s administration of occupied
lands in the West Bank is not an occupation was delivered in July 2012. Between
these two events, a certain symmetry may be found, according to Zeev Sternhell. [Haaretz: The Dream Has Vanished, With the Left’s Help]

By enlightened contemporaries, says Sternhell, “Levy’s learned conclusions will
be treated in the rest of the world just like those rulings once handed down by
village courts concerning evolution and the origin of man.”

These words come with authority and with disturbing force from Sternhell, who
is among the preeminent historians of mid-twentieth century Fascism and the
anti-Enlightenment ideologies of the nineteenth century. And the comparison may
run deeper than the parallel between two embarrassing judgments of law. The
Bible Belt in America, with its mystique of a chosen race on chosen land, bears
a close resemblance to the settler belt in Israel. Both evangelical orthodoxies
are driven by a profound hostility to the secular society that nourished them.
Both, by their unbending unity, have conquered major political parties. In the
case of Israel, Sternhell argues, the conquest of the state itself by the
settler movement is almost complete.

“the survey published on the front page of Haaretz earlier this week confirms what is already clear from our daily experience–that a majority of Israelis are not deterred by apartheid. In the wake of a continuous ideological effort of an entire generation, the right wing has ultimately succeeded in endowing society with its values: If it were to annex the territories, it would not annex the human beings living there. The Arabs would remain with the status of a population that is no longer occupied because the territories–according to what Levy stated–are not occupied territories, and they will merely be the dust of humanity, without identity or rights.”

We think of such a catastrophe as a sudden blow. On the contrary, Sternhell
implies, it can steal on a country unawares, like a thoughtless daily chore.
Before its meaning has quite emerged, it puts conscience to sleep and leaves
its traces everywhere in the common life.

“the nationalistic and messianic settlement ideology has spread like an oil
spill, until it reached the point that we are currently at: The dream of a
liberal and open society has vanished and the rug is fast being pulled from under the feet of sane Zionism. The only question now is whether we have already reached the point of no return, or whether there still remains one minute before midnight.”

How close are Americans to a similar collapse? In Israel, says Sternhell, acceptance of apartheid has become normal, as few persons a decade ago would have predicted.
In America, acceptance of a state at permanent war is now almost normal. We
have, perhaps, ten minutes before midnight–as, in the middle of one big war
and with one just ended and the aftershocks tingling from our last “kinetic
military action,” we are drawn insistently toward a next and a larger war with
another of Israel’s neighbors. And drawn, once again, by the same forces, in
Israel and America. Two bible belts and the people who know how to use them.

David Bromwich

David Bromwich's latest book is "American Breakdown: The Trump Years and How They Befell Us." He teaches literature at Yale and is a frequent contributor to the Huffington Post and has written on politics and culture for The New Republic, The Nation, The New York Review of Books, and other magazines. He is editor of Edmund Burke's selected writings On Empire, Liberty, and Reform and co-editor of the Yale University Press edition of On Liberty.

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  1. pabelmont on October 28, 2012, 1:16 pm

    If the so-called liberal Zionists and their friends in the USA read this, their minds might be opened. The march of Fascism is not limited to Israel, and the USA’s anti-terrorism crusade (and attendant changes to laws and legal practice — see
    Cert. Pet. in HolyLand Foundation case — show Fascism making an impressive march in the USA as well, and not just in the antediluvian south.

  2. MHughes976 on October 28, 2012, 1:20 pm

    This all goes way back, of course. I had a look recently at Cotton Mather’s Wonders of the Invisible World, written in connection with the Salem witch trials, where he says that the American colonies were lands reclaimed from the devil.

  3. Krauss on October 28, 2012, 1:43 pm

    A good article by Mr. Bromwich. However, I would argue that he is mistaken in two significant ways.

    First, demographics. The bible belt may have higher birthrates than secular whites, but they are still lower than for hispanics. And add to this continuous immigration.

    Israel has a very high birthrate. Discounting Gaza, it can probably increase its chances substantially over the long run if it does ethnic cleansing by attrition, which seems to be the favoured plan as of now(on display in East Jerusalem).

    Second, political potency. The Republican party has never quite acquiesced to the evangelicals. George Bush Jr courted them, and in symbolic decisions like stem cell research, he gave away minor crumbs off the table. In the larger scope of things, he, like most other Republican presidents, did not give them what they wanted.

    And the Republican party is just one party. In Israel, you have across-the-board concensus. The Settlers don’t get the crumbs; they are represented at all levels of government. Bibi’s closest political ally is a settler, Lieberman.
    And even those out of government tirelessly advocate on behalf of the settlements, like Labor’s Yachimovich spirited defence of Ariel, the Apartheid outpost.

    Therefore, the comparison between the both is weak. In Israel, the settler belt is far stronger and supported by all parties. It isn’t a movement – it is a political center.

    Liberal Zionists need to come to grips with this. And then confront their own support for Apartheid, without the rationalizations.

    • seafoid on October 28, 2012, 5:07 pm

      The Republicans are more dependent on the evangelicals now than in 2000 because of demograpic changes. The white proportion of the population is decreasing. The Tea Party defenestrated the moderate element of the GOP so they had to fall back on the less educated white people.

      I think one big difference between the 2 countries is there really isn’t anyone like Foxman promoting the Scopes judgment in DC who can punish anyone who steps out of line the way AIPAC can on matters pertaining to “Isreel” . Foxman is on record as saying that Israelis are God’s chosen people and that Erez Israel was given to them by G-d and Israeli policy is more or less run on this platform.

      In finance they often say “Never give up on the US” but I think Israel is gone beyond the point where it can be saved. There is something fundamentally irrational about the Israeli decision -making elite.

      • Krauss on October 29, 2012, 3:10 am

        I agree that the GOP is more dependent upon white evangelicals today than in 2000, which is part of the reason why they are moving so far to the right on social issues.

        Still, the GOP is not the same as America. Nationally, we are moving towards a Californian situation. The GOP in permanent minority.

        In Israel, there is unanimousconsent that the settlements must be protected. Livni may mouth platitudes, and vague ones at that, that “Israel needs a political revolution” but she is the same person who bragged that “I demanded that the IDF and the IAF acted like real hooligans in Gaza” right after Cast Lead as the elections were coming up.

        Shelly Yachimovich openly courts settlers, ignores to even talk about the Palestinians and adopts a language so identical to Bibi that Haaretz calls her “Bibi’s twin” on the 2SS/Peace Process(or whatever’s left of it).

        Therefore the comparison to the Bible belt in America is wrong. It is a force, but it isn’t the centrist position for both parties. Even the GOP has shied away from the more central demands of the evangelicals.

        Thus, Bromwich’s comparison is severely lacking as in one case it is a minority movement, a powerful one, but still in a minority.

        In the other, it has been the overwhelming concensus for decades. No matter what party is in power, the settlements continue to grow with time.

        It’s more than past time to abandon the myth of the “extremist settler movement who always get their way”. It’s a dependable ploy to be used in hasbara purposes but it is far removed from historical realities. This is why Mr. Bromwich’s piece is flawed because it seeks to equate two vastly different phenomena, who differ enormously in their impact on national policy.

        A good example to use, instead, is the religious mentioning of Israel during the third and final presidential debate. That was a good example of where both parties tried to outdo each other and where there is basically no wiggle room for any major politician in America today.

        In Israel, as I mentioned, Labor is openly courting settler votes and has completely ignored the entire question of the 2SS. That is a sign that the settler “movement” is actually centrist policy in Israel. Thus, the comparison is wrongheaded and clumsy(and perhaps an artifact of wishful thinking, to drag down American political life with Israel ‘s Apartheid as he despairs of the Zionist dream).

      • seafoid on October 29, 2012, 11:38 am

        I agree, Krauss.

        Support for YESHA cuts right through Israeli Jewish society. One in 7 Jews in Israel is a settler and the whole programme is funded out of general taxation. paid by everyone working.

        What there was of the left was destroyed by the right in Israel and now there is just one amorphous Zionist mass that thinks force will win the day and fingers crossed Iran will be sorted out as well.

        Most of the settlers are ordinary Jews who just wanted a bigger house for a lower price. There aren’t so many nutcases.

        The ones who turn up here are dishonourable exceptions.

  4. seafoid on October 28, 2012, 1:43 pm

    Irish broadcaster Vincent Browne called an antisemite by Israeli embassy for saying that

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/i-am-not-antisemitic-claims-vincent-browne-3276074.html

    “Israel is the cancer in foreign affairs. It polarises the Islamic community of the world against the rest of the world,”

    while Rahm Emanuel tells Israel that O has isolated Iran from the world

    http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/focus-u-s-a/rahm-emanuel-to-haaretz-thanks-to-obama-iran-is-isolated-from-the-world.premium-1.472638

    “Emanuel replies that President Obama has been “a very good friend of Israel” on each of the key issues concerning the two countries’ relationship: The peace process, Iran, the Arab spring, military cooperation and common values.

    On Iran, Emanuel said that “there is an appreciation of Israel’s sense of threat of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon – and when he (Obama) went into the Oval office, when it came to Iran and the international community, America was isolated – in three and a half years, the tables have been turned, and Iran is isolated from the world. That’s because of the leadership of the President.””

  5. pabelmont on October 28, 2012, 2:08 pm

    The Israeli settler movement probably thinks that the settlement program is not a “legitimate rape” and that therefore the Palestinians (and the world) must accept the natural consequences of the program. Of course, with zealots, it is hard to persuade them that their zealous doings are “rape” at all.

    The American Zionists probably take their lessons from ostriches.

  6. Betsy on October 28, 2012, 3:00 pm

    Here’s a voice in the deep Bible Belt in rural Kentucky — an oped by Larry Webster — an old-style Southern populist who carries on the tradition of critical thinking that is still a large minority in southern rural poor communities (but the progressive urban communities have failed so badly in linking with). Larry in his usual outrageous style is very clear in describing how this is basically about economic class and that race & religious & gender identity politics are about distracting white working class from the class warfare. Here’s the full, VERY FUNNY article http://www.kentucky.com/2012/10/28/2387283/webster-poor-white-men-will-fight.html

    and here’s the key comment re/ the role of Israel in US politics: (5th paragraph down)

    “In the other corner sits the challenger, on piles of money that measure labor he has appropriated from countless poor people before they were set adrift, snorting Koch, bought by a casino mogul whose loyalty is to another country. Apparently a presidential candidate can accept tens of millions of dollars worth of support from an agent of another country if it is all biblical. Mitt Romney is of a biblical sect, but they had to have more.”

    For those who worry re/ a resurgence of racism against Jewish people — note how clear Larry Webster is that this is a joint project of religious self-delusion, drawing of the scriptures Christian, Mormon, Jewish…so he is not scapegoating one ethnic group. In fact, he’s demonstrating the kind of down-home sophistication about racial politics, that the more critical folks down South have re/ the region’s history…

    • HRK on October 29, 2012, 11:47 am

      I have an evangelical background, though I’m probably not evangelical anymore (believe in evolution, don’t believe in a literal Bible though I do believe in a literal resurrection–the demarcation line for Christianity, I think).

      Evangelicals are so pro-Israel because many of them are literalists. It’s that simple. The way Bromwich juxtaposes (apparently, white) evangelicals with fascists seems very ridiculous to me.

      Speaking for myself:

      Do I feel that race should be incidental to my identity? Yes. Do I feel that I should vote my race? No. Switching to cultures: Do I feel that all cultures are equal at producing stable, successful polities? No. Can cultures change? Yes, but it doesn’t happen overnight. Do I feel that we have something worth protecting here in America that could be destabilized with mass immigration? Yes. Do I plan to treat all Americans as my brothers–regardless of whether my idea about immigration is implemented or not and regardless of whether we’re destabilized or not? Yes.

      Also: If it’s so wrong to say that American culture–which certainly has been influenced strongly by European culture–may be better than another culture . . . (presumably because we can’t say one culture is better than another) . . . then please get on Phil’s case for saying that Jewish culture is bookish–which is clearly a dogwhistle of some kind–the kind that explains why Jews do very well in academia and other intellectual areas (very well = do better–GET IT?).

      Because we can’t have a world in which it’s verboten to say that one culture is better than another . . . except we can say however discreetly that Jewish culture might be the exception to that rule. That’s insane/totally Jewish supremacist. It’s one way or the other: either no culture is better than another or there are all kinds of success-producing differences among the cultures of the world. The latter seems extremely plausible to me. Cultural progressives such as Betsy will claim the former–and then often (–not saying Betsy herself would do this) peacock around the room, what with their exceptional virtue. (And what could their ulterior motive be? Aren’t they white? And aren’t they arguing not on behalf of their own interests? Surely they must be correct–their disinterested virtue proves the case!)

      About that last part–about cultural progressives not serving their own interests–recently I came up with an explanation regarding how their seemingly other-oriented politics actually serves their own direct, greedy/grubby interests. (Can’t you tell I’m proud of myself? My turn to peacock.) Here it is (read/weep): http://cognitiveparfait.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/comment-on-what-motivates-cultural-progressives/

      David Bromwich: “The Bible Belt in America, with its mystique of a chosen race on chosen land, bears a close resemblance to the settler belt in Israel. Both evangelical orthodoxies are driven by a profound hostility to the secular society that nourished them.”

      Mystique of a chosen race on chosen land? If you’re talking manifest destiny–that was in the 1800s, and pretty much ALL white Americans felt that way–perhaps a small minority dissenting. Actually, pretty much all of Europe felt that way about empire and colonization. But it’s doubtful that other cultures wouldn’t have felt the same way had they the power to achieve dominance over other cultures at that time.

  7. DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 3:37 pm

    RE: “How close are Americans to a similar collapse?. . . In America, acceptance of a state at permanent war is now almost normal. We
    have, perhaps, ten minutes before midnight–as, in the middle of one big war and with one just ended and the aftershocks tingling from our last “kinetic military action,” we are drawn insistently toward a next and a larger war with another of Israel’s neighbors.” ~ Bromwich

    ALSO SEE: “Broken Shards of My Heart: The US in Decline”, by David Michael Green, Common Dreams, 6/09/12

    [EXCERPTS] . . . This country is dying, let’s be clear. It may live yet. It may survive for decades in slow decline. It may find a way in utter crisis to throw off, before it is too late, the fat slimy boa which is squeezing every last cent of value out of it. Its political class may invent a devastating foreign crisis with massively grim consequences in order to deflect public attention from its manifest failings. . .
    . . . Who knows? What we can be sure of, however, is that what was once a great and promising idea as much as a nation is now decrepit to the core, and rapidly rotting away, and that these wounds are entirely self-inflicted. That, for me, is the kicker. The Soviets didn’t invade and take us over. We didn’t succumb to some raging virus like the Black Plague. A meteor didn’t blast a hole in the middle of North America. . .
    . . . It will get far worse before it gets better, if it does. The Wisconsin election was widely and correctly seen as a dry run for November, but in fact November is already as over as is May or April. The hapless Obama people may not have gotten the word, but they are as dead as the unions in Wisconsin that they didn’t bother to support. And Obama will go down in near-term, right-wing renderings of history as another Jimmy Carter. Meanwhile, stupid liberals, who slavishly admired a decidedly right-wing, militarist, ultra-statist, corporate-serving Democratic president, will sit holding their heads in surprise at the damage wrought to the president himself, to his party, and to their cherished liberal principles. Um, sorry, but have y’all been snoozing through Afghanistan and Pakistan? Did you miss the whole presidential-ordered assassinations program? Have you not heard what has happened to whistleblowers? Did you forget the tax cuts and the offer to dismantle Medicare? Have you been watching Fox and not heard about the growth of military spending? Did you not know that the health care bill was co-authored by, and for the benefit of, insurance and pharmaceutical companies? . . .
    . . . This country’s future looks grim in so many ways. You can just feel the doors and windows shutting, one by one.
    Are we really so far off, given the displays we’ve already seen, from being a corporate-owned polity, in which oceans of Citizens United sponsored propaganda limits the cognitive landscape of an entire country, sham elections and a steady stream of brain-numbing high-def television gruel satisfies most of the (obese) public enough to keep them stuck on their sofas, while a massive police state armed with domestic drone aircraft and angry cops deal swiftly with the few remaining malcontents stupid enough to demand a return to the better country we once knew? You know, more or less a carbon copy of Putin’s Russia, here in North America. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/06/09

    P.S. I have already voted for Stein/Honkala (Green Party) by absentee ballot. Here in Georgia I had to do so by write-in, but they will be on the ballot in most other states. Here is their map of ballot access in the various states. – http://www.jillstein.org/ballot
    Notwithstanding the fact that I agree with what David Michael Green wrote, had I resided in one of the 2012 Swing States (the electoral votes of which might realistically go to either Obama or Romney), I would have voted for Obama.

    P.P.S. “FREE DON” SIEGELMAN PETITION – http://www.change.org/petitions/president-obama-please-restore-justice-and-pardon-my-dad

    • DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 3:40 pm

      RE: “Are we really so far off, given the displays we’ve already seen, from being a corporate-owned polity, in which oceans of Citizens United sponsored propaganda limits the cognitive landscape of an entire country, sham elections and a steady stream of brain-numbing high-def television gruel satisfies most of the (obese) public enough to keep them stuck on their sofas, while a massive police state armed with domestic drone aircraft and angry cops deal swiftly with the few remaining malcontents stupid enough to demand a return to the better country we once knew? You know, more or less a carbon copy of Putin’s Russia, here in North America. . .” ~ David Michael Green (hereinafter referred to as “DMG”)

      MY COMMENT: I feel compelled to make it clear that I very respectfully disagree with the above-referenced excerpt from DMG’s commentary in that I feel DMG is being somewhat unfair to “Putin’s Russia” in more or less equating said “Putin’s Russia” with the (not-so) United States. More specifically, I believe “Putin’s Russia” pales in comparison to America’s current unholy trinity of “inverted totalitarianism”, “manufactured consent” and“monetary fascism”.

    • DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 3:49 pm

      P.S. Here is the link for David Michael Green’s website (The Regressive Antidote) – http://www.regressiveantidote.net/

      FROM THE REGRESSIVE ANTIDOTE‘S “ABOUT” PAGE:

      [EXCERPTS] The Regressive Antidote* is the home for David Michael Green’s regular political commentary. The site derives its name from an essay I wrote regarding the importance of properly labeling the radical (and so-called) conservative movement of our time. I try to update it weekly with a new column, as well as some fresh regressive outrage and a pithy quote to ponder.
      When I’m not ranting about politics, I am busy poisoning the minds of America’s next generation of leaders, as an associate professor of Political Science at Hofstra University, located in Hempstead, New York. It is here that I hunt for naive new recruits to induct into my super-double-secret, crypto-anarcho-syndicalist, angry lesbian revolutionary cell, devoted to overthrowing – by means of a shocking putsch employing weapons of mass instruction – the reigning evildoers now at the helm of Toastmasters International. But that’s our little secret, okay? Please don’t tell anyone else. I could get in a lot of trouble.
      Meanwhile, you might like to know that I did my PhD in Political Science at the University of Wisconsin (1999), and also have degrees from the University of Illinois (International Politics, 1994), and from the University of California – Riverside (Public Administration, 1982; History, 1980). In addition to toiling in the vineyards of academia, I have also served as a management analyst (which sounds a lot more important than it actually was) for the California state judiciary and two University of California campuses – Berkeley and San Francisco.
      My academic interests chiefly center around questions of European integration (the EU), international organization, and political identity. But recent developments have re-ignited my passion for American politics, as well. At Hofstra, I offer courses on international politics, comparative politics, European politics, foreign policy, American politics, and an on-site course in Manhattan, at the United Nations headquarters and surrounding embassies. Currently in the works is a new course on international organization and law, and a seminar on political fiction.
      My academic book, “The Europeans: Political Identity in an Emerging Polity” was published in March 2007. I have also begun research for another book – an essay on contemporary American politics – which I hope will be of interest to both academic and general audiences.
      I have been active in various political organizations throughout my adult life, and have participated in multiple electoral campaigns, all of which always seem to lose somehow, even when they’re not supposed to . . .
      . . . Besides the study and practice of politics, my passions include music, songwriting, recording, hiking and kayaking. . .

      * Another ‘Scooter Pie’ Production

      SOURCE – http://www.regressiveantidote.net/About.html

      P.P.S. “FREE DON” SIEGELMAN PETITION – http://www.change.org/petitions/president-obama-please-restore-justice-and-pardon-my-dad

    • DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 3:58 pm

      RE: “This country is dying, let’s be clear. It may live yet. It may survive for decades in slow decline. It may find a way in utter crisis to throw off, before it is too late, the fat slimy boa which is squeezing every last cent of value out of it.” ~ David Michael Green (from above)

      REGARDING “THE FAT SLIMY BOA”, SEE: “Milton Friedman and the Rise of Monetary Fascism: The Dark Age of Money”, by James C. Kennedy, Counterpunch, 10/24/12

      [EXCERPTS] If you often wonder why ‘free market capitalism’ feels like it is failing despite universal assurances from economists and political pundits that it is working as intended, your intuition is correct. Free market capitalism has become a thing of the past. In truth free market capitalism has been replaced by something that is truly anti-free market and anti-capitalistic. The diversion operates in plain sight.
      Beginning sometime around 1970 the U.S. and most of the ‘free world’ have diverged from traditional “free market capitalism” to something different. Today the U.S. and much of the world’s economies are operating under what I call Monetary Fascism: a system where financial interests control the State for the advancement of the financial class. This is markedly different from traditional Fascism: a system where State and industry work together for the advancement of the State.
      Monetary Fascism was created and propagated through the Chicago School of Economics. Milton Friedman’s collective works constitute the foundation of Monetary Fascism. Knowing that the term ’Fascism’ was universally unpopular; Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics masquerade these works as ‘Capitalism’ and ‘Free Market’ economics.
      The foundation of Friedman’s corrupting principle is that the investor (money to be more precise) has no duty, obligation or covenant to anyone or anything. Friedman’s ‘Market’ is not subject to ‘any’ human standard of morality, political limitations or national interests. Money is free to act without bounds or conventions. Nothing is prohibited as long as the market can provide a “clearing price”.
      The fundamental difference between Adam Smith’s free market capitalism and Friedman’s ‘free market capitalism’ is that Friedman’s is a hyper extractive model, the kind that creates and maintains Third-World-Countries and Banana-Republics, without geo-political borders.
      If you say that this is nothing new, you miss the point. Friedman does not differentiate between some third world country and his own. The ultimate difference is that Friedman has created a model that sanctions and promotes the exploitation of his own country, in fact every country, for the benefit of the investor . . . the uber-wealthy. He dressed up this noxious ideology as ‘free market capitalism’ and then convinced most of the world to embrace it as their economic salvation. . .

      ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/10/24/the-dark-age-of-money/

  8. DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 4:14 pm

    RE: “. . . The Bible Belt in America, with its mystique of a chosen race on chosen land, bears a close resemblance to the settler belt in Israel. Both evangelical orthodoxies are driven by a profound hostility to the secular society that nourished them.
    Both, by their unbending unity, have conquered major political parties. . .” ~ Bromwich

    MY COMMENT: Take it from someone who’s lived his entire life “down he—uh” in “these here parts”, Prof. Bromwich ain’t jus’ whistlin’ “Dixie”, y’all! ! !

    SEE: “Bush Had Gog and Magog, Bibi Has Amalek”, by Richard Silverstein, Tikun Olam, 5/25/09

    [EXCERPTS]

    “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu considers the lifting of the Iranian nuclear threat his life’s mission. Before coming to power, he had mentioned that such an operation might cost thousands of lives, but the price was justified in view of the threat’s severity.” – Aluf Benn, Haaretz
    ~
    “My job is first and foremost to ensure the future of the state of Israel … the leadership’s job is to eliminate the danger. Who will eliminate it? It is us or no one.” – Bibi Netanyahu quoted in Haaretz

    Recently, Jacques Chirac confirmed that George Bush, in telephone calls leading up the Iraq war, attempted to persuade France to join the coalition of the willing by invoking the Biblical war of Gog and Magog. . .
    . . . The closest political leader to Bush on today’s political stage is Bibi Netanyahu, as the above Haaretz passages make clear. In addition, there are Bibi’s references to Iran being Amalek, implying Israel’s duty to smite the mullahs a terrible blow lest they first strike Israel in an nuclear attack. . .
    . . . Aluf Benn credits Bibi with firmly held beliefs as does Jeffrey Goldberg (not that Goldberg is my arbiter of truth by any means). So we must at least credit some conviction to Bibi. In doing so, we have to concede that the fervor with which he leads Israel to war against Iran is frightening in the extreme.
    We have the example of George Bush to guide us. He too believed he was on a mission from the Lord to tidy up the Middle East. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/05/25/bush-had-gog-and-magog-bibi-has-amalek/

    • DICKERSON3870 on October 29, 2012, 4:27 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE:
      “God’s Hand” – Rep. on Israel Policy [VIDEO, 04:04]
      Cenk Uygur breaks down comments regarding foreign aid and Israel by Republican Congressman Daniel Webster.
      LINK – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jpw9ifX8_k

      Congressman Daniel Webster “Must Fund Israel” Or Lose “God’s Hand”! [VIDEO, 02:12]
      Theologian Paul Begley of Indiana explains that Florida Congressman Daniel Webster “Must support Israel” or lose the “Hand Of God” upon America! This is the one Congressman who is not afraid to stand for God’s Chosen People!!
      LINK – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCv6RhtuHE

      “Bachmann: America ‘cursed’ by God ‘if we reject Israel’”, By Andy Birkey, The Minnesota Independent, 02/08/10

      [EXCERPTS] At a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Los Angeles last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann offered a candid view of her positions on Israel: Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist.
      The Republican Jewish Coalition is the same organization that recently hired former Sen. Norm Coleman. . .
      . . . Here’s a transcript of some of her remarks at the RJC event:

      I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.
      Right now in my own private Bible time, I am working through Isaiah . . . and there is continually a coming back to what God gave to Israel initially, which was the Torah and the Ten Commandments, and I have a wonderful quote from John Adams that if you will indulge me [while I find it] . . . [from his February 16, 1809 letter to François Adriaan van der Kemp]:
      “I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of the other sect, who believe or pretend to believe that all is ordered by chance, I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise, almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all

      . . . So that is a very long way to answer your question, but I believe that an explicit statement from us about our support for Israel as tied to American security, we would do well to do that.

      SOURCE – http://minnesotaindependent.com/55061/bachmann-america-cursed-by-god-if-we-reject-israel

      P.P.S. “FREE DON” SIEGELMAN PETITION – http://www.change.org/petitions/president-obama-please-restore-justice-and-pardon-my-dad

  9. Citizen on November 3, 2012, 9:18 am

    Irony that much poetic license was taken by those who wrote the bible, its (translated, retranslated) passages now devoured by very literal people very proud of their practical “common sense.”

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