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Rightwing Republicans seem to look on Israel as a good wedge issue against Democrats, if only the Democrats would play ball. Yesterday Texas Representative Louie Gohmert was given an hour to rant on the House floor. He warned that BDS was leading to a second Holocaust and then read from a Caroline Glick article calling  Peter Beinart an anti-Israel Jew and Max Blumenthal an anti-Semitic Jew. This is almost as laughable as Blumenthal, author of Goliath, recently making the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s top 10 list of anti-Semites and Israel haters.

Go to 3:10:00 or so in the video. 

We’re not thinking straight in this town, and there are negotiations ongoing with Iran about nuclear weapons, whose leaders have called us the great Satan that needs to be destroyed, called Israel the little Satan that needs to be destroyed and they have missiles that can put nuclear weapons on top of Israel for its destruction, creating a new Holocaust. Millions of lives could be lost, but as our friend, prime minister Netanyahu points out, they’re building and they’ve created intercontinental ballistic missiles. He’s trying to wake the United States up, Netanyahu is, and he’s saying, they don’t need those to take out Israel. They got missiles to take us out. These intercontinental ballistic missiles are for the United States, they call the great Satan, and its leaders believe that under their interpretation of prophecy from the Koran that the 12th Imam can emerge or will emerge from chaos and they believe it can be nuclear chaos and so by creating nuclear bombs and setting them off Israel, the United States, little Satan, great Satan, they can hasten the return of the 12th Imam to rule over the global — imam to rule over the global caliphate and when someone thinks those thoughts, we need to take out anywhere they’re producing nukes. We have the power and ability to do it and everybody, including Russia and China needs to understand if we don’t take them out they could be launched at Russia and China because they’re led by infidels, in Iran’s way of thinking, just like the U.S. and Israel are to their way of thinking….

And yet as the odds are getting stacked farther and higher against Israel’s existence and as we are demanding Israel give away more of its land, as Palestinian leaders continue to say they’re not agreeing to anything, they’re not agreeing to Israel’s right to even exist as a Jewish nation, as a place where the Jews can avoid another Holocaust like in World War 2, they’re not even willing to recognize that. How can there ever be peace? As I said personally to the Palestinians’ former prime minister, how can you expect peace when you won’t even recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish nation? So they want Israel to keep giving away more and more land and every time, going back to the very inception of Israel, 1,000, 1600, 1,800 years before Mohammed was born, the actual founding of Israel, going back that early, any time Israel has given away land to buy peace, that land ultimately gets used as a staging area from to attack it. And I hope they’re about to learn that lesson.

So what do we have going on here in the United States now? Well, Carolyn Glick has a great article, column one, “The left against Zion.” This is from December 19.

“This week has been a big one for the anti-Israel movement. In the space of a few days, two quasi academic organizations – the American Studies Association and the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association – have launched boycotts against Israeli universities. Their boycotts follow a similar one announced in April by the Asian Studies Association.
“These groups’ actions have not taken place in isolation. They are of a piece with ever-escalating acts of anti-Israel agitation in college campuses throughout the United States.”

And I would interject, it is sickening and incredible to me to see anti-semitism growing just the way it did before the 1930’s and 1940’s when over six million Jews were mercilessly, brutally killed and we’re seeing it arise. When I learned about the Holocaust and when I’ve been to Germany, I’ve learned and read and seen, I could never imagine — thank god we could never have that happen during my lifetime and now I’m watching the seeds of anti-semitism, of anti-Israel, of people wanting to wipe them off the map, of those who are proposing another Holocaust and then we have pseudo intellectual wannabes at universities where they no longer allow true diversity of thought  and discussion that made them originally great, which allowed them originally to have liberals there get in charge and now they cut off so often conservative speech. It used to be at universities, even as conservative as Texas A&M was when I was there, we had many liberal speakers. And I enjoyed meeting and debating with some of them. som of the greats in the country. And now even at Texas A&M, they’re careful not to invite people that are too conservative because you don’t want to tick off the faculty senate. Like most universities, have gotten very, very liberal. But in Caroline Glick’s article–

“Every week brings a wealth of stories about new cases of aggressive anti-Israel activism. At the University of Michigan last week, thousands of students were sent fake eviction notices from the university’s housing office. A pro-Palestinian group distributed them in dorms across campus to disseminate the blood libel that Israel is carrying out mass expulsions of Palestinians.
“At Swarthmore College, leftist anti-Israel Jewish students who control Hillel are insisting on using Hillel’s good offices to disseminate and legitimate anti-Israel slanders.
“And the Left’s doctrinaire insistence that Israel is the root of all evil is not limited to campuses.
“At New York’s 92nd Street Y, Commentary editor John Podhoretz was booed and hissed by the audience for trying to explain why the ASA’s just-announced boycott of Israel was an obscene act of bigotry.”

It’s a great article. Don’t have time to read it all. But she points out

“This week, Harvard Law Prof. Alan Dershowitz retired after 50 years on the law faculty. His exit, the same week as the ASA and the NAISA announced their boycotts of Israeli universities, symbolized the marginalization of the pro-Israel Left that Dershowitz represented.
“For years, Dershowitz has been a non-entity in leftist circles. His place at the table was usurped by anti-Israel Jews like Peter Beinart. And now Beinart is finding himself increasingly challenged by anti-Semitic Jews like Max Blumenthal.

“The progression is unmistakeable.”

And people need to wake up and understand, this kind of thing has all happened before. And when people don’t recognize it, it happens again in history. And god help us that it doesn’t happen while our generation is in charge. But as these growing acts of anti-semitism, anti-Israel continue to progress by so-called progressives, making it seem as if this is another apartheid like in South Africa, that was so unfair, racially so wrong in South Africa– it got corrected. This is not the same thing, at all. This is a group of people who have been persecuted throughout their history having a country where they have a longer history of right to that area than any other people existing today. And yet as universities, the so-called left, become more loud and more vocal in their hatred and anger, I wondered, if Iran dropped a nuke on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, if Iran killed a million Jews in Israel, have those leftists, those anti-semitic, anti-Israel folks at universities, have they gotten so far from decency that they would applaud Israeli Jews being killed by the millions in Israel? I wonder. I wonder if there would be a reaction like there has been in history, like there was in Germany when Jews were being killed. ‘Well, they deserve it, they were the problem in this country.’ Rationalization is a great thing and it’s a dangerous thing. People who were in Germany, who lived through the Holocaust don’t want to talk about it because they cannot believe that they got sucked into that group dynamic that allowed them to be so inhuman and so calloused that they didn’t care about the extinction of Jews in Germany. And I really don’t know the answer, if these anti-Israeli groups in universities that like to think they’re diverse, but yet they come after and destroy anybody that attempts to debate them, would they cheer if Jews and Israelis were killed by Iran? I hope they wake up to what’s happening at these universities. But here again, love of money can be the root of all evil and we see universities across this country getting more and more money from middle Eastern countries that say, hey, and by the way, you need to teach a course on Islamophobia or at least have a seminar, talking about anybody that raises issues about radical Islam…

And yet those kind of things are being talked about and taught at universities. We got to get back to having real debate. Some people think when I get upset, you know, it means I hate somebody. I don’t. I come from a family where we fuss at each other tooth and nail. We still love each other, stand by each other. But as pastor, and I heard it was attributed to Johnson as president, but we had a pastor in Mount Pleasant, Texas, in 1953 that said to my parents, if two people agree on everything, one of them’s unnecessary. Same’s true here in congress. If we all agree on everything, then — agree on everything, then all but one’s unnecessary. We don’t need a congress, we don’t need advisors. One people knows everything, then just let them make all the decisions. But that’s not the case in this fallen world. We need to hear from everybody. Debate’s a good thing. And it used to be on universities and can be again if they’ll allow all voices to be heard.

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  1. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    January 11, 2014, 12:47 pm

    What a racist warmonger. What are these people doing in america?

    News from last week: Gohmert want to bomb iranians
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/07/344288/lets-blow-iran-nuclear-sites-up-us-rep/

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      January 11, 2014, 5:37 pm

      What a racist greedy warmonger.

      Fixed it for you. Gohmert is hardly unaware of how much cash Mark Kirk is washed over with through the Israel lobby.

      • ckg
        ckg
        January 11, 2014, 10:10 pm

        I doubt Gohmert is influenced much by AIPAC cash. He is the product of Christian Zionism, which has a hold on Texas voters. He is a true believer, unlike many AIPAC lackies motivated by greed.

      • Theo
        Theo
        January 12, 2014, 12:31 pm

        Probably one of those born again christians who clutch in one hand their Bible while with the other shoot doctors who perform abortions on the needy.
        The Air Force Academy in Colorado is totally in the hands of such people, so we must be careful whom our pilots will bomb in the future. It is pitiful how our nation is sliding toward a control by fanatical religious groups.

      • Justpassingby
        Justpassingby
        January 12, 2014, 4:39 am

        Krauss
        I dont think you realize what kind of views these warmongers have about muslims, arabs, persians.

      • oneof5
        oneof5
        January 12, 2014, 11:08 am

        “I dont think you realize what kind of views these warmongers have about muslims, arabs, persians.”

        Can’t speak to what Krauss does or doesn’t know … but I agree with the implication contained in your post that their actual views towards the groups you mention are very extreme – along the lines of viewing them as something sub-human.

        This is, to some degree, a reflection of some portion of an electorate which is largely ignorant of those particular groups. The pols are representative of those that elected them … which is a very scary thought indeed.

      • Jeff D
        Jeff D
        January 12, 2014, 11:47 am

        Exactly. How do you solve the problem where the electoral system, working as it should, yields lawmakers who are both absolutely representative of their constituents and absolutely morally reprehensible? The two greatest mistakes the US ever made were fighting (let alone “winning”) the Civil War, and admitting Texas into the Union. The advertising tag line for Texas tourism for many years was “it’s a whole ‘nother country”. Both Texas and the US would likely be better off if it always had been.

        But might-have-beens don’t solve the stated problem, and finding such a solution before the problem finishes the US (among other countries) is something we have to get right, and soon.

  2. seafoid
    seafoid
    January 11, 2014, 12:50 pm

    Next stage is for someone in the tea party to say Blumenthal was a camp guard at Bergen Belsen.
    It’s so laughable .

    And very helpful to ordinary Americans staring climate change in the face.

    • bilal a
      bilal a
      January 11, 2014, 12:54 pm

      baby its cooooold outside…

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        January 11, 2014, 1:15 pm

        Calling anyone normal antisemitic is straight out of the boy who cried wolf. If human rights are antisemitic Judaism has a problem.

      • Jeff D
        Jeff D
        January 11, 2014, 1:44 pm

        Judaism is doing just fine, even as Zionism-über-alles takes several sizeable hits below the waterline. The sooner that people, both Jews and gentiles, tell the racist inciters exactly how many miles up their tailpipes they can shove themselves, the better off the world will be.

    • pabelmont
      pabelmont
      January 11, 2014, 1:48 pm

      Come onnnnnn, Global Warming is well-known to be a Big Lie, whereas the fact that Blumenthal and BDS are antisemitic is a truth as plain as the nose on your face. In life, it’s important to know truth from fiction!

      OTOH, it’s also important to know which side your bread is buttered on.

      • Theo
        Theo
        January 12, 2014, 12:44 pm

        Just tell the same to those people on the pacific islands whose lands are vanishing in the waters, or the ice bears who will be starving soon, not to discount the glaciers melting all over the world.
        Making such a statement about global warming is like saying water is not really wet! Just keep counting the ever growing number and strenth of hurricanes and tornadoes, watch the rising level of seas caused by the melting of snow and ice on both pols, and if you live long enough you will be convinced. In Greenland, where 30 years ago there was a 10 feet iceshelf, today they grow potatoes!! Naturally all those have nothing to to with the climate change!

  3. bilal a
    bilal a
    January 11, 2014, 12:53 pm

    Speech above is a caricature of anti semetic tropes, echoes war thirsty Single Loyalists being called out by HuffPo:

    White House Dares Democratic Senators Pushing Iran Sanctions To Admit They Want War
    The “certain members” the White House is referring to are led by Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), who is pushing legislation, backed by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, that would tighten sanctions on the Iranian regime despite the ongoing negotiations.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/09/white-house-iran-war_n_4572003.html

    see John Glaser at antiwar.com:
    http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/01/10/obama-wh-pro-sanctions-senators-should-admit-they-want-war-with-iran/

  4. just
    just
    January 11, 2014, 12:54 pm

    How rich is it that a Baptist from the state of Texas, United States calls Max Blumenthal an anti- Semite? Kinda fittin’ that he is a deacon of his mighty church.

    From his website: “Today, he and his wife Kathy are the proud parents of three daughters. Their family attends Green Acres Baptist Church in Tyler, where Louie has served as a deacon and still teaches Sunday school.” From the church’s website, about their pastor:
    “David enjoys leading educational tours to Israel and has visited the Holy Land over 25 times.”
    http://www.gabc.org/pastor

    I feel sorry for his kids….. they might not stand a chance at real learnin’.

    Congratulations to Max! A question for any Texans here: how come y’all keep electing psychos? Wonder how much he’s paid for spreading hasbara/ lies.

    • bilal a
      bilal a
      January 11, 2014, 12:57 pm

      Texas has a long liberal populist tradition, but now its all about Saudi linked big oil and Defense/intell spending. Look forward to some analysis of the political economy of Christian Zionism.

      • just
        just
        January 11, 2014, 1:21 pm

        I know some liberal Texans, but they ain’t got the “mike”.

        It’s irredeemable miscreants like Rick Perry, GW Bush, and Gohmert that get the coverage……

        (Sadly, Ann Richards and Molly Ivins are no longer with us.)

  5. MHughes976
    MHughes976
    January 11, 2014, 12:56 pm

    If he hates no one, not even the ASA loony-lefties, and believes in debate, perhaps he should talk to them and use calmer language. He accuses people of having bloodthirsty thoughts at least at the back of their mind behind their vocal political views but should perhaps ask himself what lurks at the back of his own mind behind all that vocal political expression? Is he sure that there’s nothing in that mind of his, that so hates the idea of a nuclear attack by Iran, that might not entirely loathe the idea of a nuclear attack on Iran, or at least of a non-nuclear attack so massive that it would be almost as devastating? It should be recalled that Iran has no nukes, so any idea of an Iranian nuclear attack is for the time being unrealistic, whereas Iran’s enemies do have nukes and do have quite menacing attitudes.

    • American
      American
      January 11, 2014, 1:20 pm

      ‘He accuses people of having bloodthirsty thoughts ‘

      Projection.

      • bilal a
        bilal a
        January 11, 2014, 3:08 pm

        Not exactly, ie Pulsa DiNura

        Perhaps this is connected more to the present than to the past. Then, 500 years ago, Toaff believes, Jews did not murder Simonino, just as they did not murder any other child. They certainly did not murder him in order to use his blood in the Passover ritual, for if there were indeed some use of blood, it was blood that was taken from living people and without resistance on their part. But when he looks around him today, he sees extremist Jewish elements that are distorting the spirit of Judaism, with curses and attempts at excommunication, and this, in his opinion, could end badly. As, for example, in the cases of the pulsa denura (kabbalistic death curse) ceremonies that were the background to the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin by Yigal Amir, or the intolerant behavior toward Yonatan Bassi, himself a Jew of Italian origin.
        http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/toaff-fights-for-his-good-name-1.214410

        Economy Ministry receives threatening letter directed at Minister Bennett; ‘Pulsa diNura was invoked,’
        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4366877,00.html

      • Abierno
        Abierno
        January 11, 2014, 5:19 pm

        The fear mongering of MS. Glick and Congressmean Gohmert are deeply troubling. Validating Likud’s paranoid world view – that mid east countries, particularly Iran, are hyperfocused on the extermination of the Jewish people of Israel, is akin to validating the delusions of the paranoid schizophrenic. Individuals of the Jewish religion and ethnicity are, in fact, well assimilated into the power structures of most European countries as well as the US. Even the slightest real move toward such an outcome would immediately be met with international military retaliation.

        However, the fear mongering in the above description of Iran actually
        mirrors (projects) the military policies of Israel. The US and European public needs to hear more about these: 1) The Dahiya Doctrine – effectively executed in Gaza and Lebanon, projected for Iran. Deliberate, intense targeting of civilians to inflict as much pain, suffering as possible – hitting the instrastructure such as apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, power plants. Inquiring minds might want to read up on the current news regarding the late Ariel Sharon’s policies toward the subjugation and occupation of Lebanon ,not the least of which were the massacres of Qibya, Sabra, Shitila.

        The Daniel Project: Commissioned by Ariel Sharon. Built the justification of “anticipatory and pre emptive strikes” Also, justifies
        strategic “targeted assassinations” such as those being carried out in Iran and other venues.

        The Samson Project, a deliberate strategy of massive retaliation. The
        abandonment of proportionality is the essence of the Samson Option – Israel with its Dolphin class submarines, which are equipped with nuclear warheads will bring down not only the holy places of Islam but also the capitals of Europe and Russia. To quote Martin Crevold, professor of military history, Hebrew University: “Most Europeans capitals are targets of our air force.”

        Israel is not a signator to any of the nuclear regulatory treaties. There are no inspections of Israeli nuclear facilities. On the other hand, Iran has no nuclear weapons, has not invaded any other country for hundreds of years, is a signatory to the IAEA treaty and is currently subjecting itself to consistent inspections, even knowing that the information that comes from these inspections appears to make its way to Israel with the resultant assassination of their nuclear scientists as well as infection of their computer systems with viruses such as Stuxnet, a US/Israeli confection.

  6. American
    American
    January 11, 2014, 1:00 pm

    Gohmert is a true retard, one of those christo zios, old testment doomsday freaks.
    AIPAC doesnt even have to pay him for this stuff, he believes it.

    But I must say this is getting wilder and wilder, denouncing people by name (and a Jew like Max at that) as anti semitic and trying to create a second holocaust on the house floor?

    • annie
      annie
      January 11, 2014, 1:05 pm

      did you hear the way his voice slowed down at this part, all dramatic:

      I wondered, if Iran dropped a nuke on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, if Iran killed a million Jews in Israel, have those leftists, those anti-semitic, anti-Israel folks at universities, have they gotten so far from decency that they would applaud Israeli Jews being killed by the millions in Israel? I wonder. I wonder if there would be a reaction like there has been in history, like there was in Germany when Jews were being killed. ‘Well, they deserve it, they were the problem in this country.’ Rationalization is a great thing and it’s a dangerous thing. People who were in Germany, who lived through the Holocaust don’t want to talk about it because they cannot believe that they got sucked into that group dynamic that allowed them to be so inhuman and so calloused that they didn’t care about the extinction of Jews in Germany. And I really don’t know the answer, if these anti-Israeli groups in universities that like to think they’re diverse, but yet they come after and destroy anybody that attempts to debate them, would they cheer if Jews and Israelis were killed by Iran?

      eee gads. these freaks will really stop at nothing.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 11, 2014, 1:14 pm

        I wondered, if Iran dropped a nuke on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, if Iran killed a million Jews in Israel, have those leftists, those anti-semitic, anti-Israel folks at universities, have they gotten so far from decency that they would applaud Israeli Jews being killed by the millions in Israel? I wonder. … And I really don’t know the answer …

        I wondered, if Israel or the U.S. dropped a nuke on Tehran or Mashhad or Tabriz, if Israel or the U.S. killed a million Iranian men, women and children in Iran, have those Zio-supremacists, those war-mongers, those hate-filled anti-Iran folks at universities and in the governments and in the boardrooms and in the war-rooms, have they gotten so far from decency that they would applaud Iranian men, women and children being killed by the millions in Iran? I wonder. And I really do know the answer: Damned right they would!

        The f*ckers. >:-(

      • January 11, 2014, 5:58 pm

        I personally would be astounded if Iran dropped a nuke on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv seeing as how Iran has no nukes and has not attacked anyone in my lifetime.

        I would not, however, be surprised by any act of aggression undertaken by Israel against Iran; I do doubt they would go nuclear at first but if they did attack Iran and the USA did not help them out and they were going under there is no doubt in my mind they would nuke Iran

      • American
        American
        January 11, 2014, 1:16 pm

        ”Rationalization is a great thing and it’s a dangerous thing. ”

        lol, yea…retardation and stupidity are even more dangerous …since they almost always precede the rationalizations.

  7. American
    American
    January 11, 2014, 1:09 pm

    ”I’m watching the seeds of anti-semitism, of anti-Israel, of people wanting to wipe them off the map, of those who are proposing another Holocaust ”…….Caroline the Glick

    Mark Twain wrote: “No God and no religion can survive ridicule. No political church, no nobility, no royalty or other fraud, can face ridicule in a fair field, and live.”

    So—— hehehehe, hahahahah, hearty har har, silly silly, rolling our eyes–where’s yur tin foil hat Caroline? , hysterically funny….

  8. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    January 11, 2014, 1:12 pm

    Beinart,Gohmert ,Glick Blimenthol
    How do all end up on house floor
    How do all end up on Holocaust ware house
    How does Israel end up on House floor

    How could Gohmert have all these
    information when he does not the geographic location of Iraq or ME( I am assuming he does not know ,to have an understanding of the depth of the knowledge these Representative have about I -P . If he had , then he does not the priority his job imposes on regarding what stance is best for his country)
    But the episode proves the enormous influence of the AIPAC on funneling information to Congress ( bush used to get from PNAC and later AEI who used to create information in league with Isarel) , on providing talking points
    , and then shaping debate ,picking up issues out of millions other more important national issues, and shaping public opinion- from there – bills and laws and foreign policy will emerge as intended by AIPAC – and campaign money will flow with free endorsement by the media through the same one sided depiction of the problem and showcasing the figures taking charge of the situation following the scripts of AIPAC
    Has any one in Congress ever bother to cite Mondoweiss or Lobelog or Say Salon or Huffingtonpost or Guardian or any article out of NYTimes or LATimes that accidentally have spilled the bean on Iranian nuke or WMD in Syria or prewar intelligence cherry picking by Government?

  9. Sibiriak
    Sibiriak
    January 11, 2014, 1:14 pm

    A pro-Palestinian group distributed [ fake eviction notices ] in dorms across campus to disseminate the blood libel that Israel is carrying out mass expulsions of Palestinians.

    A blood libel?

    • just
      just
      January 11, 2014, 3:29 pm

      More ridiculousness from the inventors and purveyors of ‘ridiculosity’.

  10. Denis
    Denis
    January 11, 2014, 1:24 pm

    @Gohmert: We’re not thinking straight in this town

    He sure got that right.

    Arutz is reporting Obama has announced he has picked Fischer as Fed vice-chairman, but the headline is

    Fischer to Serve as Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve

    As if Congressional approval is either not necessary or is a foregone conclusion . . . and that would be right, too.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/176156#.UtGKNLT-mXM

    Why don’t the Americans just turn their government over to the Knesset and avoid the middleman — the voter.

    • judithbell
      judithbell
      January 12, 2014, 11:54 pm

      Stanely Fisher, who is American, was the dean of MIT’s Economics department. He is considered one of the most brilliant economic minds in the world today. The US, which always picks the head of the World Bank (the IMF is a European pick) courted him to be head of the bank but he decided he wanted to go to Israel and head up their national bank and so he took out citizenship and did just that.

      It is not unusual Mark Carney of Canada did the same with the Bank of England. He had been head of the Bank of Canada and was highly regarded.

      The US government is and should be thrilled to have Fisher back. He succeeded in doing wonderful things for the Israeli economy

      America will be a lot poorer if it excludes citizens with connections to other countries. But more importantly, why would you imply that Israel controls America because Fisher will be vice- Fed chief.

      Would you say Italy controls America if Mario Draghi, another brilliant mind, was picked.

      Your comment actually reinforces the congressman’s point.

  11. Shmuel
    Shmuel
    January 11, 2014, 1:32 pm

    everybody, including Russia and China needs to understand if we don’t take them out they could be launched at Russia and China because they’re led by infidels, in Iran’s way of thinking

    I wonder if being an infidel is worse than being a godless communist.

    anti-Israel Jews like Peter Beinart. And now Beinart is finding himself increasingly challenged by anti-Semitic Jews like Max Blumenthal.

    OK, now I’m really confused. Being an “anti-Semitic Jew” seems to be worse than being an “anti-Israel Jew”, but if being anti-Israel is being anti-Semitic (seeds of the Holocaust and all that), how do you tell the difference between the two? And what is this “anti-Israel Jew” and “anti-semitic Jew” business anyway? Is the good congressman singling out Jews?

    • W.Jones
      W.Jones
      January 11, 2014, 1:35 pm

      Depends who you ask.

    • Jeff D
      Jeff D
      January 11, 2014, 1:50 pm

      Being an “infidel in ‘Iran’s eyes'” is the current rephrasing of McCarthyite Commie accusations, but lacking McCarthy’s levels of sensitivity, intellect or cultural awareness. Useful idiots like Mr. Gohmert demonstrate that it is entirely possible to rate well below zero on those benchmarks.

      Treason.

  12. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    January 11, 2014, 1:40 pm

    So this is the way it works. With liberalization, opportunity is cornered and opponents are destroyed in relevant field of media, finance, judiciary, and foreign policy both inside and outside the gpvernment( remember the crowing of Kristol over banishing. Arabist and the outcry against Al Zajeera by ADL, removing Arabs or Muslim from campaign organization, decrying campaign donation by Muslim or Arab, and spreading innuendo against Muslim activist or administration employee ( even Huma Abedin was not spared) and refusing Abhu Dhabh the Port Authority business)
    Now there is one voice when Israel is involved and the arrow is shot to one direction only whether Sturat Levy or Fisher or NYT Jerusalem reporter or NYPD chief or Homeland Security chief or the media debating those issues by these people . It is silencing of debate and discussion by the connected dots across the landscape . There is one voice.
    Diversity of opinion is about sex and drug legalization or at best about grabbing the opportunity of helping the poor with godly words of hope or personal check.

  13. Jeff Klein
    Jeff Klein
    January 11, 2014, 1:54 pm

    Kachiiing! A speech like that starts the contributions meter running.

    There used to be such a thing as “Court Jews” — Now there are “Court Goyim” . . .

  14. pabelmont
    pabelmont
    January 11, 2014, 1:56 pm

    So, BDS, Beinart, J-Street (maybe), and Blumenthal, and MondoWeiss (I truly hope) are getting under their skins. Good thing. Good place to be.

    Curious that we haven’t heard anything loony about the Dutch pension funds taking back their money ($170B) from Israeli banks.

    When we hear AIPAC and MSM editorials warning against the Dutch and the EU, we’ll have reason to hope that something REAL is happening.

    • just
      just
      January 11, 2014, 2:03 pm

      “something REAL is happening.”

      I believe that it really, really is. Otherwise, there would not be the heady scent of so much desperation (flop sweat) in the air.

  15. Edward Q
    Edward Q
    January 11, 2014, 2:06 pm

    What do these people have to say about the problem of racism in general, not just anti-semitism?

  16. Keith
    Keith
    January 11, 2014, 2:11 pm

    I think it says volumes about the state of our democracy that someone like this can be elected to the House of Representatives multiple times. I find him far more frightening than Pam Geller due to his position. This post has profoundly depressed me, and I was morose to begin with.

    • libra
      libra
      January 11, 2014, 4:38 pm

      Cheer up Keith. When the useful idiots get this stupid they start to become useless.

      • oneof5
        oneof5
        January 12, 2014, 2:48 am

        libra sez:

        “Cheer up Keith. When the useful idiots get this stupid they start to become useless.”

        Useless to them … not useless to us … ;-)

    • oneof5
      oneof5
      January 12, 2014, 2:41 am

      Keith,

      You just need a little Louie Humor is all – I highly recommend partaking of some Louie-On-Skewer – fully roasted of course – from the fine folks over at Wonkette.

      If your sense of humor is anywhere close to being as sick and twisted as is mine, be prepared to bust a gut.

      (Warning: Avoid consuming liquids or semi-liquid foods while imbibing … ;-)

      http://wonkette.com/tag/louie-gohmert

  17. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    January 11, 2014, 3:03 pm

    Gohmert supports Apartheid, by using the Apartheid word ‘antisemetic’ – a sanitized, ‘Jew only’ phrase, aka ‘phuck all the other [non European] semites.’

    Go live where your heart feels at home, dude.

  18. Philip Munger
    Philip Munger
    January 11, 2014, 3:22 pm

    What a feather in Max’s cap to be called out on the House floor by one of most retro, purposefully ignorant members or the U.S. House since the early 19th century.

    Congratulations, Mr. Blumenthal.

    • just
      just
      January 11, 2014, 3:40 pm

      Precisely.

      Hope that the Gohmert followers are paying extra special attention, and are finally falling off the proverbial wagon in a very good and healthy way. All that craziness needs to git gone in order to let the sunlight in.

      Yee- haw! Max– many thanks! Many thanks to MW as well.

      ‘Mr. Max Blumenthal Goes To Washington’. Catchy, isn’t it?

  19. Egbert
    Egbert
    January 11, 2014, 4:09 pm
  20. James Canning
    James Canning
    January 11, 2014, 4:26 pm

    Gohmert is an idiot. In fact, Israel would benefit from even greater pressure from the world, to stop oppressing the Palestinians, growing the illegal colonies of Jews in the West Bank, etc etc.

  21. Blownaway
    Blownaway
    January 11, 2014, 4:55 pm

    I think Israel needs more friends like these…

  22. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    January 11, 2014, 5:24 pm

    In US ,Israel is searching for people like Gohmert and Menendez and for mayor who will skew the poll number or ignore to get AIPAC directive on Democratic Convention ratified . Slowly some voices are being heard denouncing the AIPAC directly or indirectly.
    Not that long ago,there was an article in Tablet ( I think it was. In Tablet ) and linked to Mondoweiss ,denouncing the trend and openly admitting of the possibility of the abandonment of US by the Jewish establishment in preference to China.
    It was not an isolated thought . It was a connected thought and it is alive. It is connected the way Glick , Gohmert ,money,power,and the platforms these operate from are connected.
    So comes here Spengler writing on the new prospect based on so many common values between China and Jewish people.
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/CHIN-01-100114.html. It is worth reading to see how malleable and plastic the values have become or have always been to suit the current needs of the Zionist .
    I guess that malleability and plasticity allowed the Zionist to frame the lucrative aspect of the deal of supporting the cause of the Zionism to the contemporaneous world powers in 1900- I ,E , Czar ,Sultan,Kaiser,and Prime minister – of different philosophies ,and of different world views.
    Yes ,it is being built slowly in India and China ,targeting the elite through more than enough new Jewish Israeli study centers in China . There people of wisdom talk of non-tribal Jewish value with the age old repression and rebirth of Chinese civilization ,and , smartness,hard work,and tolerance of Judaism.
    I would worry if I were Chinese.

    • mikeo
      mikeo
      January 12, 2014, 7:55 am

      The Jewish People Policy Institute has published a strategy paper on cosying up to the Chinese here.

      Speaking of “how malleable and plastic the values have become or have always been to suit the current needs of the Zionist”, here is a selected quote from the section “Money & Power” – the Chinese are cut a bit of slack on Anti-Semitism (after all the Jews might need’em when it all goes to shit in the US).

      The image of Jewish riches has existed in China for more than a hundred years. Images of success and power are linked to it. The Jews are admired, but perhaps also envied because they are seen to have what every Chinese wants to have for himself and his nation: money, success, and power…

      The explanations for Jewish money and the Jews’ alleged dominance of business, the banks, the stock exchange, the world economy, etc., have varied. There have been a small number of anti-Semitic expressions in line with hostile European attitudes, particularly in bio- graphical references to some of the former rich Jews of Shanghai.

      But in general, the Chinese traditions with regard to money and wealth are similar to those of the Jews, and different from the moral reticence that Christianity often
      maintained towards wealth. Both Chinese and Jews celebrate riches, success, and well-being in this world, not poverty.

      Therefore, when Chinese authors speak admiringly of the “commercial consciousness” of the Jewish Bible, or “the special sense that Jews have about money,” this must not be seen as a reflection of Western prejudice, though it may sound quite similar.”

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 12, 2014, 8:35 am

        If memory serves, the trend for a number of year snow in South Korea is to teach children the Talmud because the leaders there believe it will help their people get richer, more successful in the material sense.

      • American
        American
        January 12, 2014, 11:56 am

        mikeo says:
        January 12, 2014 at 7:55 am
        The Jewish People Policy Institute has published a strategy paper on cosying up to the Chinese here.>>>>

        Read that some time ago, posted here.
        However the ‘real’ hook Israel is trying to use on China is 1) its influence with the US 2) its claim of international Jewish banking networks as a asset to China.
        All their puff about Jewishness being worshipped in China is silly and just their usual choseness promotion. Dont think they’re going to convince China’s leaders Jews are smarter than they are or needed considering how they have already made China number one in global commerce expansion.
        I would love to see Israel switch its dependence from the US to China though, but it wont–because their relationship with the US is the biggest plus they have in their ambitions–and they dont want to lose it. They would try to maintain and play both the US and China…which would bring in a whole new set of problems for the US.
        But if by some miracle Isr would spurn us for China I would rejoice cause China would control them not visa versa as is the case with the US.
        I dont think it will come about however for one very good reason—there are only 2,500 Jews in China out of a 1,353,600,000 population .
        The sole reason for Israel’s success in the US is the US political system, zionist money and organizing Jewish segments to use as US election threats. They will never be able to duplicate that in China…whole different system in China.
        But I would really, really love to see China or Russia take over Israel.

      • traintosiberia
        traintosiberia
        January 12, 2014, 2:04 pm

        Fascinating account. Thank you.
        Chinese diaspora and the mainlandChinese elite also share common attributes with the Jewish in diaspora and in Israel proper . Chinese expatriates in SE Asia have inserted themselves well in between the ruled and the crony corrupt rulers – Suharto and Marcos are two examples who benefitted from this arrangements. But it was very true in Thailand of early 20 th century and possibly in English Burma as well. Chinese tried to import the revolution in Indonesia . Jewish influence in US communism and socialism are well known and discarding those ideas for the sake of broader overriding Jewish interest are also well known as are the desertion of the communism of Soviet in general by the Russian Jewish after Stalin defeated the internationalist stream of communism ( Trotskytes-variant- the reason the neocons want US not to think of isolationism – has resemblance to this attitude .it supports the continued upward mobility of a class that benefits from war related,confrontation related intervention while the local ,internal causes suffer and are neglected) . Ideas have been created,used,exploited and discarded – ie , communism,nationalism,capitalism or the hybrid depending on the needs of the moment by the Chinese elite to advance group at the cost of other- Xinxiang, Tibetians,and other minorities .The diaspora Chinese have responded to local economic crisis by fleeing the country with asset and resources in 1997 . But the commonality goes beyond the obvious. Chinese never define themselves in terms of religion but in terms of shared experiences,attitudes ,culture,and genes. Jewish people have de judazied their religion and have secularized the same concept without a YHWEH.

  23. dbroncos
    dbroncos
    January 11, 2014, 11:14 pm

    If you think Louie Ghomert, Ted Cruz and Rick Perry are bad you should talk to their consituents.

  24. RepresentativePress
    RepresentativePress
    January 12, 2014, 12:45 am

    I made a video out of part of Rep. Louie Gohmert’s speech called Most Ignorant Speech on the House floor? I wonder. and I read another part from Caroline Glick’s article “The Left against Zion” where she gives her reason why “Leftists hate Israel.” please pass it on.

  25. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    January 12, 2014, 11:01 am

    There’s something inherently racist in a Christian calling a Jewish person antisemitic. As if Jewish people were not individuals with a range of opinions and beliefs but rather a monolithic group which must fit into a predetermined mold. I’m sure Ghomert doesn’t see that of course.

    • piotr
      piotr
      January 13, 2014, 7:47 am

      I think that nuttery is a more unifying phenomenon than anti-Semitism or racism.’

      To a nutter, if there is a range of opinions then one of them is correct (her or his) and the rest is wrong. The only issue is if they are harmlessly or dangerously wrong.

      So Glick is harmlessly wrong by rejecting Jesus Christ as her personal Lord and Savior (she will merely go to the Lake of Fire by herself) but the leftist Blumenthal is dangerously wrong — after all, he is a leftist and you cannot condone the utter wrongness of those people. And yea, he is Jewish, so I have no idea about those confusing Jewish issues, but I can trust Glick because she is a good girl, a right winger after all, so I will quote her at those late hours.

      Nuttery comes in two basic flavors. One is rather logical and even follows the facts from this world (more or less), it is just that after the conclusion you are tempted to check for the slips in the logical chain (the meaning of the last elections in Australia is that it fulfills a Biblical prophecy??!!). This raving is quite illogical and counter-factual. For example, can university presidents be “heard in universities”? Sure they can, so the lamentation that universities are taken by the forces of the Hidden Imam is tad overdone. And on the issue of the Hidden Imam, the theory that nukes are believed by the Persians to be a tool to hasten his re-emergence has a very, very thin support. This is inner nutterosphere stuff.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      January 13, 2014, 7:58 am

      # oldgeezer
      Ghomert’s logic would have any American critical of America or the current American regime–“anti-American.” Thus, Ghomert, by his own political positions on domestic political issues, such as abortion, is anti-American. The man is a walking mental wasteland.

      • Jeff D
        Jeff D
        January 13, 2014, 10:15 am

        True about Gohmert. 100 years ago, or even fifty, true believers like him could be found in the local sanitarium or, at worst, in the pulpit of one of the less mainstream churches on the “wrong side of the tracks”, where overzealous counterfactualism and utter disregard in the inconsistency of one’s own stated positions were seen as qualifications for the job rather than for the nuthouse.

        Then the Reagan Revolution happened, and the inmates took control of the asylum, the country and, by extension, a still-respectable chunk of the world. Cynical puppet-masters’ money flowed like the mightiest of rivers, and the useful idiots provided cover and infotainment whilst the nation and a still-respectable chunk of the world were looted and left to rot. We’ve been distracted, diverted into arguing over what patterns the rubble should bounce with, instead of picking up some rocks and hurling them at those who got us into this situation.

        A wise man once noted that you rarely improve your situation by solving the wrong problem. A much richer man noted that if you can keep the proles from realising what their problem really is, let alone organising effectively to resolve it, then you can exercise absolute power for as long as you care to. In either case, there will always be people, immune from any sense of logic or reason, who can be counted upon to work tirelessly against their own interests. In religion, these extremists are often called zealots. In American politics, they’re what’s left of what once was the Republican Party. In either religion or politics, history teaches that their ascent into positions of power and influence unequivocally signals the onset of a truly dark time for the people they purport to lead; a time from which the people will be extremely fortunate to survive and recover from.

        Things are going to get much, much worse before they get better — if anyone’s still left by then.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 13, 2014, 12:16 pm

        @ Jeff D
        Yes, but I don’t think the GOP, by virtue of itself or its inclusion of far right-wing elements, has a monopoly on the patterns of undermining the best interests of their own constituencies. The Democratic leadership has proven equally skilled. What they have in common consistently is allegiance to AIPAC/Israel.

  26. homingpigeon
    homingpigeon
    January 12, 2014, 12:50 pm

    Beloved Habibis, the scope of BDS in the US is incomplete until we extend the boycott to politicians of both of the parties of Death. Democratic and Republican candidates generally will compete with each other to see who can be most subservient to Israel. And in turn the Lukidnik AIPACers will destroy a politician who is not 101% on board with them. No other issue will count for them. Meanwhile, too many voters from the community of conscience, while understanding the Palestinian case, will vote for Zionist American politicians, playing the game of the “lesser of two evils.” At the time of the election they will decide that since both are in the hands of Zionists anyway, they should choose on the basis of other issues. In this way the system is enabled.

    I submit that when we see that these candidates are competing with each other to ingratiate themselves with AIPAC, we MUST reject them both, and vote for a third party. And further we must inform them of that fact.

    My mondo friends who are horrified and bemused by Texans and Baptists might be pleased to know that this son and grandson of Baptist ministers is in Texas preparing a Congressional campaign on the Libertarian ticket against a prominent Republican. The Palestine issue will be prominent. When the time is right I’ll come out of the pigeon coop.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      January 12, 2014, 10:56 pm

      @ homingpigeon

      I agree with you assessment. I never vote for a democrat or republican if there’s third party contenders offered.

    • piotr
      piotr
      January 13, 2014, 8:00 am

      “Bird, fly from the road, and quickly. See that dust cloud coming quickly, horse charging far ahead? Blasting, turning, fire pouring…”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGofoatz-20
      It is a nice song but in practice, there is something to be said for evolutionary approaches.

  27. piotr
    piotr
    January 13, 2014, 8:33 am

    The Heritage Foundation Presents;

    Intercontinental Ballistic Missile Threat from Iran

    The longest range was from the Shahab-3, which can travel approximately 1,200 miles. Iran clearly has missiles in its arsenal that can easily reach the Strait of Hormuz, Israel, and U.S. troops stationed throughout the Middle East.

    From that, and from warning issued by Mr. Netanyahu (P.B.U.H.) Rev. Gohmert concludes that Iran’s “mullah” can dispatch nuclear warheads to USA. There is a certain slight of here, isn’t it? Iran possesses missiles that may reach American soil if dispatched from Chukotka peninsula, or Africa if dispatched from Iraq, but that does not really mean that they can leap over Atlantic, or fly from Iran to any of the 50 states. By the way, Iranians can walk to the Stait of Hormuz, so ominous warning of Heritage Foundation is a bit strange.

    Idiots like Gohmert get their wisdom from D.C. think tanks. Do you thing that the reverend got the Glick article on his own? However, the reception of right wing think tanks in the vast American country side is somewhat patchy and there are some signs of right wing rejection of their message. For example, some theologian remind that Israel has no right to its name: it may be a Jewish state, from Judah, but it has no connection to the 10 lost tribes.

    • James Canning
      James Canning
      January 13, 2014, 7:25 pm

      Since Iran borders the Strait of Hormuz, not much range is needed (to hit ships in that strait).

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