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‘That tyrant whose seat you’re in? We took him out’ (The Egyptian revolution continues)

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Riveting video/manifesto from Mosireen– who has educated us before— featuring martyrs to the military rulers of Egypt. A friend translates the Arabic in the video description:

These are images you have never seen before, or maybe you have but you did not pay attention to them. Though these are images of everyday life, they hide sites of pain, corners of terror, the places left behind by martyrs.

Most of these images were taken in spaces where the state’s security forces kidnapped, tortured or murdered one of us. The very fact that these images were taken is due to the courage by those left behind, to give witness. We carry a heavy burden, to carry this revolution forward.

The speaker in this video is one of those who will not give up the fight, no matter the complexity, no matter the success of their propaganda, he will speak out and stand in their path and this is why they hunt him.

Whether on our streets in broad daylight or in the dark corners of their citadels, these security men practice their violence on us with all the legitimacy the state can offer.

This is why we went to the street January 25 2011.

This is why we continue to fight them today.

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  1. Baldur
    January 26, 2014, 11:46 am

    The situation in Egypt will only get better when American aid to the Egyptian army is ended. As things currently stand, the army is a vast and bloated organization more akin to a huge Mafia. They will continue to rule Egypt until the balance of power is normalized.

    • Ellen
      January 26, 2014, 3:13 pm

      Talk of ending aid to Egypt sent AIPAC into overdrive. The idea freaked Israel out. Many reasons why. But the more dysfunctional Egypt is, the better for Zioland.

      • Citizen
        January 26, 2014, 10:47 pm

        Yeah, that formula for military aid to Israel linked with a smaller annual sum to Egypt was a marriage our then US regime made in hell; together it’s by far the biggest chunk of all US foreign aid. Nobody feels the squeeze more than the residents of Gaza.

  2. Mike_Konrad
    January 26, 2014, 11:58 am

    Morsi was a dictator.

    Sisi may be heavy handed, but his is advocating women’s rights and Christian rights.

    He is the best guy in Egypt right now.

    • Justpassingby
      January 26, 2014, 3:37 pm

      Mike konrad shows again his love for pro-israel dictators.

      • Semiotic Observer
        Semiotic Observer
        January 26, 2014, 8:50 pm

        I think Morsi would have been better for Israel. I believe that’s why the US tried to save him.

        For Israel, having other religious/sectarian and right-wing governments in the neighborhood makes Israel’s government seem normal. Also, having a bunch of “bearded ones” to point at every time they want to convince the world that they are surrounded by… well, you know.

        So far, El-Sisi seems closer to a Mubarak than to an Abdel Nasser. If he is smart, and really cares about what is good for Egypt, he wouldn’t run for president.

      • Marco
        January 26, 2014, 10:59 pm

        Honestly, the Sisi regime isn’t even a run of the mill dictatorship.

        The death toll since July 2013 is worse than any similar period under Mubarak, Sadat, or Nasser, nevermind Morsi. General Sisi is the most oppressive leader in modern Egyptian history. Not only that, but the massacre of Muslim Brotherhood and other opponents in August 2013 is one of the worst mass killing of protesters since Tienanmen Square.

    • Walid
      January 27, 2014, 12:56 pm

      Careful about buying into promises, Mike, Morsi had promised a Christian Vice-President and lots of women-ministers. It never happened and there’s a 99% chance it wouldn’t with Sisi either. Politicians are always promising the people what they want to hear. Military people aren’t much into rights. Mubarak, the former military man, wouldn’t let the Christians repair their churches that were falling apart.

      Sisi has to worry about keeping the Salafis happy; he owes them, and they don’t want to give anything to the Christians.

  3. Citizen
    January 26, 2014, 1:35 pm

    I don’t know what to make of the video clip or Phil’s take on it. I remember when the NYT dissed the Iraqi elections, but the reality turned out that those Iraqi’s turned out at nearly 100% to vote, more than any % ever in America, and they held up their purple inked finger in elation. The Arab Spring may have been sprung, and no longer thrives, but the US government has had a big hand in all of this. The whole ball game for the USA is to maintain Arab powers that act as Israel’s shield, bucked up by US bucks, and, as Mearsheirmer and Walt surmised, Big Oil is not really in that picture since they could be more profitable by siding with the Arabs, and the same can be said by siding with Iran. The Bill Kristols of this world say contrary, but it’s the truth, and why Bill praised himself for ending the era of “the Arabists” in the US state department. Why could anybody with half a brain think that giving Israel a blank check both with free dollars and UN SC veto is good for the USA?

    • Walid
      January 27, 2014, 1:46 pm

      “I don’t know what to make of the video clip …(Citizen)

      Nothing to be made of it, Citizen, it’s a whole lot of talk about nothing. The pseudo revolution that really had nothing substantial to say or to aspire to 3 years ago is still as soulless today as it was back then. The video is a total waste with lots of gibberish about white powder in the streets and about the cops being as vicious as ever. Back then everybody was taken up with the romanticism of kids handing out flowers to soldiers and soldiers letting the kids climb on their tanks and when the kids were asked what they wanted out of their revolution, they’d answer that they wanted Mubarak out and better Internet service. That was the intellectual level of that bogus revolution.

      This January 25th while the masses gathered in Tahrir with pictures of Sisi, there were other demonstrations elsewhere like in Suez by the Brothers as well as ones in back alleys by kids from 3 years ago saying their January 25th movement had been hijacked by the Brothers and the soldiers and that they intended to keep going on with their “revolution”. Then suddenly the riot police showed up and showered them with tear gas and the 30 or 40 revolutionaries quickly dispersed. They didn’t have the opportunity to talk about the Internet this time.

      That whole thing from the beginning with the the State Dept pressuring the military council to let the fundies run in the elections, to letting them win and in the end booting them out was set-up.

  4. ritzl
    January 26, 2014, 3:00 pm

    Gotta be an MK Top Ten…

    Morsi was a dictator. Except that he was elected.

    Sisi may be heavy handed, but his is advocating women’s rights and Christian rights. By killing anyone who disagrees, or looks like they might disagree, or had something that disagreed with them at lunch.

    He is the best guy in Egypt right now. As viewed from the back end of his tank.

    I’d call it bizarre, but methinks you’ve managed to capture the alpha-omega of Beltway/DC conventional wisdom on this.

  5. Keith
    January 26, 2014, 7:39 pm

    I continue to be astonished and dismayed by all of this reference to an Egyptian “revolution” as if that is what it really was. It wasn’t. It was basically an IMF riot in reaction to neoliberal globalization. There is a problem with labeling it a revolution, then basing your analysis upon your label. There is way too much giddy romanticism and too little understanding going on. There is no revolution unless you seize control of the underlying mechanisms of power. This never occurred. The army continued to effectively control the country with the support of the empire, including the global financial system upon which Egypt was dependent for survival. I said at the time that Egypt didn’t have the wherewithal to break free from the global system. It didn’t and it doesn’t. More street riots will result in more street riots and little else. Unless Egypt can feed itself without foreign assistance, it is incapable of breaking free from imperial control. Below is a quote from Tariq Ali saying essentially the same thing.

    “Ever since the beginning of the Arab Spring there has been much talk of revolutions. Not from me. I’ve argued against the position that mass uprisings on their own constitute a revolution, i.e., a transfer of power from one social class (or even a layer) to another that leads to fundamental change. The actual size of the crowd is not a determinant—members of a crowd become a revolution only when they have, in their majority, a clear set of social and political aims. If they do not, they will always be outflanked by those who do, or by the state that will recapture lost ground very rapidly.” (Tariq Ali)

    • Walid
      January 27, 2014, 2:00 pm

      “members of a crowd become a revolution only when they have, in their majority, a clear set of social and political aims….” (Tariq Ali)

      That’s what I said when the Egyptian thing flared up and the kids had neither social nor political aims. Worse than that, they had no leader, no spokesperson. The only true Arab Spring that happened was the one in Bahrain as the oppressed people there knew exactly what changes they wanted. Everywhere else it was programmed by outside political or financial forces like the IMF, that you mentioned, and what it had in store for Libya when that changeover happened.

  6. kalithea
    January 27, 2014, 12:15 am

    The Egyptian military is U.S.-funded on behalf of Israel. There will never be a real democracy in Egypt until the external meddling ends and the U.S. funding of the Egyptian military ends. I don’t care what they say they stand for – it’s all bullshet and power-driven.

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