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Tens of thousands of African asylum seekers in Tel Aviv protested in front of eight embassies and United Nations and European Union offices as part of a three-day strike against Israel’s policy of imprisonment for those requesting refugee status, causing the U.S. Embassy to shut down. Israeli onlookers jeered at the marches, shouting “Go home!” and “back to Africa!” as the protesters met for a second day of actions beginning this morning at Levinsky Park near the city’s central bus station, the hub for Israel’s refugees.

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At 9:30am protesters broke off into ten groups, thousands in each, and marched to the embassies of the U.S, African Union, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Sweden and Italy. Additional groups marched on the offices of the United Nations High Council of Refugees and the European Union.

“The Israeli government is a dictator government,” said Father Semerehb an Eritrean Orthodox monk. “They have no democracy here. There is no work, no visa, no green card.” Father Semerehb has lived in Israel for the past three years. “In my nation when I heard of Israel I thought it was very nice,” but now he and 60,000 other asylum seekers are facing imprisonment orders and the end of a de facto Israeli policy to not deport would-be refugees. Many refugees have also received prison summons to show up at a desert detention facility when renewing identification cards over the past week.

Along the protest route to the beachfront U.S. Embassy, tucked between Tel Aviv’s district of seaside hotels, Israeli onlookers shouted disparaging remarks. “Go home! Go home!” bellowed a blond middle-age woman as she threw her torso out of an SUV window. “Back to Africa!” a shopkeeper moaned. The state should “get them to leave here” a waiter said to me. My colleague David Sheen who has covered anti-African racism in Israel more than any other journalist interviewed one Israeli-onlooker who said the march was like a “black plague” upon the Mediterranean city.

But not all Tel Avivians were enraged at the sight of Africans chanting “freedom, not prison” and “we are refugees, we want asylum.” Many were stunned at the amount of demonstrators, “this is not normal, we’ve never seen anything like this,” said a young Israeli barista. “Justice. They deserve rights, they deserve freedom and they deserve to be treated as any Israeli citizen,” said Yossi Cohen, 32, from a corner store while filming the march on his iPhone.

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At first sight, foreign embassies are an odd target of protest for those seeking asylum in Israel. Yet reaching to outside countries with safe haven policies is an attempt by protest coordinators to pressure Israel into compliance with international refugee conventions.

“In our desperation for help – We call upon the ambassadors and diplomats in Israel. We know their countries are also dealing with the challenge of many refugees seeking political asylum and protection from persecution, war and genocide,” said organizers of the event in a press release this morning. “Many of our brothers and sisters have arrived at their countries and received asylum, protection and refugee rights.”

At 12:30p.m the crowd outside of the embassy peaked with around 20,000 protesting, approximately one-third of the total African refugee population in Israel. It’s worth noting that the organizing to assemble the three-day strike took coordination from Eritreans, Sudanese and Israelis—populations that until now have not engaged in mass direct actions together.

At 2p.m. the protest in front of the U.S. embassy began waning, with asylum seekers heading back to Levinsky Park.

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  1. seafoid
    seafoid
    January 6, 2014, 11:38 am

    The Palestinians should do the same. Get the attention of the world back on the crimes of Israel. Oppressive systems can’t handle mass protest. The bots only have limited prison capacity.
    A campaign to shut down the roads in Israel would also have potential. The Israeli economy is built on cheap fuel and needs to be open 24/7 to fund the occupation.

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      January 6, 2014, 1:58 pm

      Good point.

      If palestinians did this they could get some attention worldwide, but they dont.

    • January 6, 2014, 6:17 pm

      remember right after 911 netiyahoo was questioned and he said”its very good” then knowing he let himself slip he tried to put on his typical deceitful facade’well, its not very good but now america will know how it feels to deal with terrorism”.
      (i will leave it up to all you to decide if the israeli government sponsored mossad was involved here deceitfully carrying out the pnac plan of “short of a catastrophic event, like a “new pearl harbor”, the transformation will be a long one”.)
      well, jews have been behind the weaking of US immigration laws since the 1920’2 which have resulted in the maddening influx of spanish
      so, i’m practically laughing out loud at the zionist monsters in israel dealing with “their” own immigration problem.
      what goes around comes around. get used to it!

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      January 6, 2014, 8:28 pm

      You must all ready know the media does not cover it much when the Palestinians protest.

      • Justpassingby
        Justpassingby
        January 7, 2014, 3:18 am

        Kathleen

        Sorry but palestinians in Israel doesnt protest like this.

      • Krauss
        Krauss
        January 7, 2014, 7:40 am

        There are close to 2 million Palestinians living inside Israel. The numbers who are protesting here gives an estimate of 60-70% of all Africans in Israel. As you can see in the picutres, women and children are there too.

        If we could only 20% of Palestinians in Israel, that would be 400,000 of them.

        Of course, they probably are more afraid to protest since they already hold citizenship and are rooted and people like Lieberman would threaten to cut it off. They could also face sanctions at work and so on.

        But as time goes on and the desperation deepens, this must be the tactic. Massive, non-violent protest.

      • tree
        tree
        January 7, 2014, 8:11 am

        Of course, they probably are more afraid to protest since they already hold citizenship and are rooted and people like Lieberman would threaten to cut it off. They could also face sanctions at work and so on.

        Palestinian citizens of Israel tried that in 1976 Land Day and the result was 6 dead, hundreds wounded and several hundred arrested. They tried it again in 2000 and ended up with 12 dead. They have more to fear than just threats to their citizenship, which are daunting enough.

  2. MahaneYehude1
    MahaneYehude1
    January 6, 2014, 11:52 am

    @seafoid:

    Get the attention of the world back on the crimes of Israel.

    Could you, please, tell us how your government treats the asylum seekers? could you, please, tell us what do you do personally for the asylum seekers in your country? I do thank you in advance.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      January 6, 2014, 12:29 pm

      “Could you, please, tell us how your government treats the asylum seekers?”

      I don’t know about seafoid, but YOUR government could simply investigate each individual and if the government can demonstrate that they are not legitimate refugees, then they can deport them if it is safe to do so. And you leave the rest alone to live their lives.

      What you DON’T do is squeal like a little girl who saw a mouse and vow to get rid of all the black-skinned people, which appears to be the plan of Benji Netanyahoo and his band of criminals.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 12:55 pm

        @Woody;

        but YOUR government could simply investigate each individual and if the government can demonstrate that they are not legitimate refugees, then they can deport them if it is safe to do so. And you leave the rest alone to live their lives.

        That’s Meretz suggestion and I hope the government will accept it. I admit that the government doesn’t treat the problem in correct way, but I won’t call it “crimes”.

      • Ellen
        Ellen
        January 6, 2014, 4:40 pm

        MY1 I am afraid you just do not “get it.”

        but I won’t call it “crimes”.

        The Israeli government has freaked out and is now putting refugees into Prisons. The Holot prison facility in the desert is specifically only for the Africans. These procedures are in direct violation with the UNHRC conventions to which Israel is a signatory. That is, indeed, an international crime. Not that Israel will be held accountable.

        There are well established procedures on determining refugee status. What Israel has done is labeled all refugees “infiltrators” and criminalized refugees.

        No doubt an influx of refugees puts strains on any society/community. But the first world — to which Israel belongs — has much experience with this, but meanwhile Israels is treating refugees as a threat to its national security and identity as a White Jewish Nation.

        Besides, doesn’t Israel need the cheap labor now that the wall is built? Just askin’

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 6, 2014, 9:57 pm

        Ellen “MY1 I am afraid you just do not “get it.” “

        A propagandists job is ‘not to get it’ at all costs

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 2:13 pm

        “That’s Meretz suggestion and I hope the government will accept it. I admit that the government doesn’t treat the problem in correct way, but I won’t call it “crimes”.”mahane 1/2 or 3????.

        You called illegal squatter price taggers attacks, crimes.

        Will you now call Israel,s policy of blaming the Palestinians for these attacks a crime.

        This my 6th request for an answer mahane.

        Or do we assume you agree with the GOI and lay blame for price tag attacks squarely on the shoulders of the victims of those crimes.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 8:59 am

        amigo says:
        January 7, 2014 at 1:20 pm

        I am not sure about other European Countries but we do not have tens of thousands of Asylum seekers protesting outside our Government Buidings. In fact there are no protests ongoing.

        That’s because Ireland, when it detains asylum-seekers, actually locks them up and doesn’t allow them freedom of movement like Israel does. They can’t just walk out and ignore the policy of signing back in and march (while being followed by news cameras and supporters who are feeding them) to the government offices.

        http://www.detention-in-europe.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=146&Itemid=178

        The Irish Government does not require these asylum seekers to change their religion as part of gaining citizenship unlike the so called only democracy, blah blah blah.

        OK, blah blah blah (I’m trying to talk at your level). Israel has never required anybody to change their religion, much less asylum seekers, to get citizenship. Approximately 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jews, they have never changed their religion. The majority of non-Jewish citizens, of course are Arab Muslims, Christians and Druze, but non-Jews from abroad obtain Israeli citizenship (without changing their religion!) every year. Some get Israeli citizenship through marriage to an Israeli citizen (who may be Jewish, Christian, Muslim — whatever). A former neighbor of mine was a Portuguese Catholic married to an Arab Catholic Israeli citizen. He obtained Israeli citizenship by marrying his Israeli citizen wife. Neither were Jewish. Mira Awad, one of Israel’s most popular singers and actresses, is the daughter of an Arab Greek Orthodox Christian man who married a Bulgarian Orthodox Christian woman. Neither of her parents changed their religion to marry each other, her Bulgarian-born, non-Jewish mother is an Israeli citizen. Also, it’s more rare, but non-Jewish foreigners can apply for naturalization and immigrate to Israel through other channels besides marriage, they can reside legally in Israel for a number of years for business- or work-related reasons and then become eligible to apply for citizenship. Also, asylum seekers have in the past been granted citizenship outright, including Vietnamese “boat people” in the 1970s and Darfur Muslims in 2007. They were not forced to change their religion in order to become citizens. Hundreds of thousands of Russian non-Jews married to Jews from the former USSR also obtained Israeli citizenship walong with their Jewish spouses. Again, nobody is ever forced to change their religion. Those who want to change their religion usually find many obstacles put in their path by the Orthodox rabbinate. It’s much easier for a non-Jew to become an Israeli citizen in Israel than it is to change your religion to Jewish in Israel.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        January 6, 2014, 1:57 pm

        Mahane

        The next time Jews are in trouble a lot of countries are going to adopt the Israeli approach. And there won’t be any IDF to fly over Poland when that happens, either. There was no IDF to fly over Poland when it mattered, of course.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 2:15 pm

        @seafoid:

        OK, I hope they adopt the Israeli approach which i sure, with the time, will accept the asylum seekers. But I also hope that next time Jews are in trouble they can find shelter in Israel, their home. You see, even you know that Jews are in trouble from time to time exactly like the Zionists knew when they struggled for the Jewish state.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        January 6, 2014, 2:35 pm

        Mahane

        It’s not going to be the exclusively Jewish home for much longer.
        It would have made much more sense to run the kip on Jewish values but the bots weren’t intelligent enough. It’s such a sad story.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        January 6, 2014, 3:00 pm

        “But I also hope that next time Jews are in trouble they can find shelter in Israel, their home.”

        But it’s not their home. That’s the lie that you refuse to see. Their homes are where their homes are. The land you are referencing is the Palestinians’ home and what you are referencing is the crime against humanity when the zionists stole it.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 6, 2014, 7:24 pm

        @ Mehane
        Israel may be a nuclear-armed, voluntary ghetto, but it’s still a ghetto. That’s not much of an insurance policy in a mostly Gentile world. Israel’s security as a Jewish state depends on America, which is 98% Gentile. Fool me once, fool me twice…

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 2:31 pm

        ” You see, even you know that Jews are in trouble from time to time exactly like the Zionists knew when they struggled for the Jewish state.” mahane 1/2 or 3.

        Describe “struggled???.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism

        or
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence
        or
        http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm

        Take your pick mahane, there sure was/is a lot of “Jewish struggling ” going on.

        Don,t suppose Jews being in trouble from time to time can be attributed to it,s insatiable need to steal that which belongs to others or teaching your children that Gentiles are lesser than Jews and are only here to serve to serve them.

        Get out of ALL of occupied Palestine and return to wherever you came from and your troubles will be miraculously reduced.

        That includes all of occupied Jerusalem so you need to get on the train.You too are an illegal squatter apologist.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      January 6, 2014, 12:50 pm

      We take them in. We took in jews in ww2. Was that the right thing to do?

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 1:02 pm

        @seafoid;

        We take them in. We took in jews in ww2. Was that the right thing to do?

        Exactly what is happening in Israel now.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        January 6, 2014, 1:19 pm

        “Exactly what is happening in Israel now.”

        No, it looks like what is happening in israel now is that they are searching for the political will to kick them all out, because of their unforgivable blackness.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 2:59 pm

        @woody;

        Till today, no one was “kicked out” and I sure and hope no one will in the future. The Israeli government must find a solution to those asylum seekers and the forces in Israel advocate them are increasing.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 5:41 pm

        If they can demonstrate a legitimate fear of persecution in their homelands, then they should be granted temporary asylum, whatever their skin color is, and until their refugee status can be determined, they should be detained, in accordance with international norms.

        because of their unforgivable blackness.

        If Israel was afraid of black citizens, it would not have gone to such great and heroic lengths to facilitate the immigration of Jews from Ethiopia into the Jewish state. Among those who oppose the presence of the African migrants from places like Eritrea, Sudan and Congo, are many Israelis of Ethiopian descent by the way.
        Israel can and should grant asylum to some legitimate refugees (and has already done so in many cases), but many of those people are economic migrants claiming to be refugees.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        January 9, 2014, 2:30 pm

        “Till today, no one was “kicked out” and I sure and hope no one will in the future.”

        But the point is that the mainstream in israel is looking to kick them out because they are black gentiles. That they haven’t the political will to do it yet is fortunate, but no exoneration.

      • American
        American
        January 6, 2014, 2:17 pm

        MahaneYehude1 says:
        January 6, 2014 at 1:02 pm
        @seafoid;

        We take them in. We took in jews in ww2. Was that the right thing to do?

        Exactly what is happening in Israel now.>>>>>>

        No it isnt. We were and are not a Jewish nation and we took in Jews—-specifically 2 million of them between 1890 and 1920. They were almost 20% of the total of 12 million immigrants allowed in the US during that time…a number far above their % in the world.

        You on the other hand take in ‘only’ Jews.
        Good luck if you’re ever on the run finding anyone who feels sympathic to you and is willing to take you in after what you’ve proven to be.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 2:44 pm

        @American;

        I strongly recommend you to read more about the asylum seekers in Israel, not only what MW publish.

        About your wish to me (I sure you didn’t read my opinion about the asylum seekers I wrote in the past): I don’t need anyone to take me in, since I am already at my home and have no intentions to leave it. In worse case, I am ready to die for my country and it is not a poetic language nor phraseology.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 5:52 pm

        American says:
        January 6, 2014 at 2:17 pm

        We take them in. We took in jews in ww2. Was that the right thing to do?

        Few Jews were accepted into the US before the US entered the war (those that did had to demonstrate adequate finances and/or relatives in the US who were able to support them) and almost no Jews were able to come into the US from Nazi-occupied Europe after the US entered the war.

        We were and are not a Jewish nation and we took in Jews—-specifically 2 million of them between 1890 and 1920. They were almost 20% of the total of 12 million immigrants allowed in the US during that time…a number far above their % in the world.

        In the period that you write of, Jews were part of a general unprecedented immigration wave to the US from Eastern and Southern Europe. They were not being welcomed to the US because they were Jews who were granted refuge from persecution but simply because the expanding US economy needed workers. Most of these people worked in the needle trades.

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 3:07 pm

        “Exactly what is happening in Israel now.”mahane 1/2/3???.

        Don,t think so.

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.567450

        Israel pays money to get rid of “Untermenschen”.

        “The Interior Ministry said the migrants left for Sweden in the context of a government incentive scheme and were granted $3,500 each upon departure. They are encouraged to leave Israel voluntarily and to promise not to return.”

      • yrn
        yrn
        January 6, 2014, 2:16 pm

        Ireland :Female asylum seekers ‘living like prisoners’
        http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/female-asylum-seekers-living-like-prisoners-252047.html

        Last week the immigration authorities in Ireland gave these folks the most dreaded deportation letter, which gives these immigrants from Africa a “persona non grata” status with a 30 day mandatory execution period, to pack their small belongings and return home to face death,
        http://ugandans.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/african-asylum-seekers-in-ireland-get-their-deportation-orders-from-the-state/

        Humanist Ireland/Seafoid

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        January 6, 2014, 2:37 pm

        They are all kept in a concentration camp in the desert outside Athlone, YRN

      • yrn
        yrn
        January 6, 2014, 2:48 pm

        seafoid
        Athlone Dublin

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 2:54 pm

        @seafoid;

        They are all kept in a concentration camp in the desert outside Athlone, YRN

        Very nice evasion, seafoid!!!

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 2:49 pm

        @yrn:

        Please, don’t confuse seafoid and others here with facts. He already said that his country let the asylum seekers in so their is no immigrant problems in Ireland nor in other European countries only in Israel!!!

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 1:20 pm

        “Please, don’t confuse seafoid and others here with facts. He already said that his country let the asylum seekers in so their is no immigrant problems in Ireland nor in other European countries only in Israel!!!”mahane 1/2or 3????.

        I am not sure about other European Countries but we do not have tens of thousands of Asylum seekers protesting outside our Government Buidings.In fact there are no protests ongoing.

        The Irish Government does not require these asylum seekers to change their religion as part of gaining citizenship unlike the so called only democracy, blah blah blah.

        Ireland also does not imprison children in open cages at night during freezing weather, unlike the so called “Light unto the Nations.

        Mahane, you are squatting in a vile supremacist and racist entity that I would be ashamed to claim citizenship of .

        I would hang my head in shame were I unlucky enough to have been born in such a hell on Earth.

        It takes a very special kind of apologist to defend this hell on earth.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 6, 2014, 7:56 pm

        @ Milhael
        There was a significant anti-zionist movement among conservative jews into the early 1940s in America (concerned about the issue of dual citizenship, hence loyalty), until rumors of Hitler’s final solution became rampant–something FDR had to mollify at the time: http://books.google.com/books?id=-t3Hx4ASLKUC&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=american+council+for+judaism+in+the+1940's&source=bl&ots=MGMaM3Zlzr&sig=VhCrei7rMhgWb9rkvbsZUsjA94c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6k7LUtq2N6TR2QXF3YHYDw&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=american%20council%20for%20judaism%20in%20the%201940's&f=false

        Recall, e.g., the anti-zionist American Council for Judaism in the early 1940’s?

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 9:29 am

        Citizen says:
        January 7, 2014 at 6:08 am
        Israel brands itself as “the Jewish sIsrael brands itself as “the Jewish state.”

        Imagine if America branded itself as “the Christian state.”

        Israel is a democratic nation-state, it is a “Jewish” state like Greece is a Greek state, like Japan is a Japanese state and like Finland is a Finnish state, all these countries are ethnic democracies that have substantial minorities who dfo not belong to the majority national/ethnic group but are given civic and civil rights. An ethnic Albanian, Romani, or a Jew in Greece is entitled to full civic rights as a Greek citizen, but Greece is still the Hellenic (Greek) Republic that defines itself as a state of the Greek People. Ethnic Pontic Greeks from the Crimea in Ukraine can get Greek citizenship due to their ancestry. Israel’s being a “Jewish state” refers to the majority ethnic/national group, not the religion of Judaism. If the USA branded itself a “Christian” state it would be privileging one religion over all others and over non-belief. Israel does not privilege Judaism over all other beliefs, but just as Greece is a natio-state of Greek people, Israel is a nation-state of Jewish people.

        “What current political leader declared “This belongs to the White Man.” Wasn’t it Israel’s interior minister, Eli Yishai? Or more precisely, he said concerning migrants and refugees, “Most of those people arriving here are Muslims who think the country doesn’t belong to us,the White Man.”

        The second quote of Yishai, the son of Tunisian Jews (Africans!) is the accurate quote. Yishai, a religious fundamentalist, has said many stupid things (he believes the Earth is only 5774 years old). But read his quote again. He said most of those people arriving in Israel are black Muslims and that they think that the country doesn’t belong to white Jews. Now, Eli Yishai may have erred by thinking that he can see into the hearts and kidneys of African migrants and knows their state of mind and may have falsely attributed that sentiment to them, or he may be right, but what he didn’t say was that “Israel belongs to the white man”. He said African Muslims don’t believe the Land of Israel belongs to “us” (Jews) and doesn’t belong to the “white man”. It’s clear as day what he said. It’s not clear that he possesses psychic powers and knows what every African migrant in Israel believes.

        In America, David Duke is not America’s Secretary of the Interior. Instead, he’s banished to the fringe, unacceptable in government, and a cultural pariah.

        The USA doesn’t have the oddities of Israel’s electoral system, with proportional representation and horse-trading to form coalition governments that allows characters like Yishai to attain prominence either. The USA has a fucked-up system all its own that allows Tea Party nuts to hold the country hostage. We have our fucked-up system and big mouths, you have yours.

        Citizen says:
        January 6, 2014 at 7:56 pm
        @ Milhael
        There was a significant anti-zionist movement among conservative jews into the early 1940s in America (concerned about the issue of dual citizenship, hence loyalty), until rumors of Hitler’s final solution became rampant–something FDR had to mollify at the time: link to books.google.com

        Recall, e.g., the anti-zionist American Council for Judaism in the early 1940′s?

        Yes, Elmer Berger of the American Council for Judaism was representative of a trend that you see throughout Jewish history, of the insecure Jew who feels threatened by other Jews who are proud of their Jewish national identity and fear that any expression of it will undermine them. Lord Montagu was another prominent example of this mindset in the UK in the past century. This is called the “Galuth (Exile) Mentality” that many Jews living in open democracies have been unable to shed. No other ethnic group would feel threatened by national independence movements in their historic homeland. Irish-Americans never felt their patriotic bona fides as Americans might be called into question because they supported Irish independence. They should get over it and stop being such pu**ies.

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 6, 2014, 9:51 pm

        @ yrn “Ireland :Female asylum seekers ‘living like prisoners’”

        “The eight participants” is an alarmingly small sample to reach any accurate conclusion

        “Last week the immigration authorities in Ireland gave these folks the most dreaded deportation letter”

        How many? All of them? On what basis were they refused?

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 6, 2014, 11:58 pm

        Each of these “what about Kamchatka and Serendib” posts brings a number of people to their senses re Zionism; even hyenas, could they read, would be ashamed of them.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 7, 2014, 1:31 am

        @talknic and puppies:

        talknic: I am very surprised: you are the man of the UN resolutions and laws. Why don’t you cite the UN definition for refugee?

        Look, many times I admitted and still admit that the government of Israel failed to treat the asylum seekers problem in Israel and I hope they will find solution to this humanitarian problem. But, please, don’t tell us that Israel is the only country faces such problem. Most of the Western countries, European, Australia, Japan, US etc, have the same problem and many are confused and don’t know how to treat it. And, yes…also Ireland.

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 7, 2014, 4:57 am

        MahaneYehude1 ” Why don’t you cite the UN definition for refugee?”

        Are you really that poorly informed?

        http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/StatusOfRefugees.aspx

        “.. the government of Israel failed to treat the asylum seekers problem in Israel and I hope they will find solution to this humanitarian problem”

        “find” ? WTF do you think the UN Charter and conventions convey? Israel pleaded to join the UN and signed the convention.

        ” don’t tell us that Israel is the only country faces such problem. “

        Israel seems to have a unique ‘solution’

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 7, 2014, 2:36 pm

        to the seafoids

        No European country civilians are living under missile attacks.
        No European country is under existential threat.
        No European country lives under threat of war.

        Want me to continue????

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 6, 2014, 10:17 pm

        @Mikhail – “almost no Jews were able to come into the US from Nazi-occupied Europe ” thanks to very intense, in-your-face lobbying by the Zionist organizations of America (the same happened in GB), led by Rabbi Wise.
        You are behaving like the guy who murdered mother and father and asked for mercy on the grounds that he was an orphan.

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 4:42 pm

        to the seafoids

        No European country civilians are living under missile attacks.
        No European country is under existential threat.
        No European country lives under threat of war.

        Want me to continue????

        Please do Mahane 1/2 or 3.

        No European Country is occupying it,s neighbour and stealin their land.

        Israel is not under existential except from it,s own policies.

        Israel is not under threat of war.Your endless whining and victimhood claims are truly tiresome.

        Tell Hasbara central to send a fishmonger.We are tired being served the same potato chips off your zionist shoulders.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 8:37 am

        thanks to very intense, in-your-face lobbying by the Zionist organizations of America (the same happened in GB), led by Rabbi Wise.

        Bullshit. Rabbi Wise’s sin was one of omission, not commission.

        And my name is spelled Mikhael, thank you.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 9, 2014, 5:14 am

        @ Mikhael

        It’s patently dishonest to say that Israel’s governing body of laws are not de jure enmeshed with Judaism, the religion, in a discriminatory manner, and de facto the status of being a Jew in Israel is the sole guarantee of full and equal democratic rights in Israel. Everybody else is effectively a second class citizen. Are you claiming the countries you mention also have such a system?
        Also, as to those countries, what land and people do they have under occupation?

        As to the Tea Party in America, this group began as a grass roots protest against endless taxation without representation, hence their name. An element of their protest seeks curbs on government spending & on endless growth of government into every sphere of American life–the core there is libertarian individualism. This has always been a traditional root in America. Nothing to do with race, ethnicity, religion.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 9, 2014, 9:05 am

        puppies says:
        January 8, 2014 at 11:00 am

        And that’s why they so actively lobbied *against* admitting Jewish refugees from Europe.
        Some logic you got.

        Some knowledge of history you got. There’s no evidence of Stephen Wise lobbying, actively or quietly against the admittance of more Jewish refugees from Europe into the US during the WW2 years or the years immediately preceding the war, an offer that in any case that not on the table. The historical record shows that Wise believed in quietly urging FDR’s administration to admit more Jews, whereas other Zionists (Hillel Kook et al.) believed in more intense activism, marches, demonstrations, etc. to bring attention to this issue.
        There was a difference of opinion among the pro-Zionist factions in the US over which tactics would be more effective in saving Europe’s Jews, there’s no evidence (except in your mind) of Wise lobbying to prevent immigration of European Jews o the US.

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 9, 2014, 9:32 pm

        @Michael – no reply button

        “there’s no evidence (except in your mind) of Wise lobbying to prevent immigration of European Jews o the US.”
        I sent the references to Wise’s testimony to Congress (1943 fcol!) and the official letter to Gov agencies in the name of the JCA (1938 and other.)
        Post seems to have disappeared, perhaps censored by the site.
        All you have to do is a little research without leaving your chair to retrieve a treasure trove of documentation.
        Once more, it is documenting the explicit opposition of the Zionist organizations to the relaxing of quotas for European Jews in US and UK on the grounds that this will draw away attention from immigration to Palestine. Plus, as I was mentioning in that post that my generation has talked a lot to our parents’ generation, in particular to the people who had fought for the quotas to end up defeated by your goons.

      • tree
        tree
        January 7, 2014, 8:02 am

        Few Jews were accepted into the US before the US entered the war…

        Reply button not available so this is a response to Mikhael above. I’m aware that “common knowledge” is that the US accepted few Jews in the years prior to WWII but that isn’t entirely true, especially when considered as a percentage of the total number of all immigrants allowed into the US during the time. All figures on Jewish and total immigration to the US below come from the archives of the American Jewish Congress published in 1940.

        http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1940_1941_8_Statistics.pdf

        As a background, when the US passed the Immigration Act of 1921, it severely limited immigration to the US and put quotas by country of origin on immigration. Despite “common knowledge”, there were no restrictions on Jews per se, only on immigrants based on their country of origin. Immigrants from Southern and Eastern European countries were extremely limited (and this BTW seems to be related to both fear of Communism and a fear of too many Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians. ) Asians were banned completely from immigrating to the US during this time, and those that were here were not allowed to become citizens.

        From the year 1922 till the end of 1939, a net total of 333,456 Jews immigrated to the US (Jewish immigrants minus Jewish emigrants). Interestingly, the net total of Jewish immigrants to Palestine during the same period was approximately 295,000 (probably several thousand less than that as there are no figures for Jewish emigration from Palestine for the years 1931-1934). So there were more Jews coming to the US and staying than there were Jews going to Palestine and staying during this pre-war, post immigration quota period.

        The period from 1922-1931 saw 223,191 Jews immigrating to the US (net figures), and 66,353 Jews immigrating to Palestine (also net). The figures are reversed from 1931-1939, with 110,265 (net) going to the US and somewhat less than 228,000 (net with no figures for emigration from 1931-1934) going to Palestine. While the US is a much larger country than Palestine and certainly could have and should have taken in more Jewish refugees (as well as more non-Jewish refugees who suffered similar gruesome fates), other figures should be taken into consideration when analyzing the US immigration record during this time, vis a vis Jewish immigration. Total US immigration from all sources went down from slightly over 800,000 in 1921 to 300,000 in 1922, and jumped up to 500,000 in 1923, then 700,000 in 1924, just before the restrictions were tightened again, and then hovered around 250,000-300,000 until 1931 when it dropped precipitously to less than 100,000 and then down further to 35,000 in 1932, and an all time low of 23,000 in 1933, in the heart of the Great Depression. By 1938 the total was up to 68,000, with 30% of that total being Jewish, and by 1939 the total was up to 82,000, with over 50% of the immigrants to the US that year being Jewish. All immigration was limited during this time but in 1939, Jews were a majority of those immigrants allowed into the US, and 70% of those Jewish immigrants came from Nazi Germany.

        Another way of looking at the figures would be to compare 1921 and 1939. In 1921, over 800,000 total immigrants came to the US, and roughly 120,000 of them were Jewish. In 1939, only one tenth as many immigrants were allowed into the US(82,000), but the number of Jewish immigrants allowed in that year (43,000) were slightly more than a third of the number allowed in 1921. US immigration was skewed towards the Jewish refugees during that time, despite the fact that the numbers were small, too small.

        Another comparison can be made to the heyday of Jewish immigration to the US from 1899-1914, when an average of around 90,000 Jews immigrated each year to the US, and the total yearly immigration figures for all US immigrants was around 900,000. In 1939, although the total immigration had plummeted to less than a tenth of that number(82,000), the number of Jews immigrating that year(43,000) was more than half of the yearly Jewish average of 1899-1914 when the US immigration figures from all sources were ten times the 1939 figure.

        It should also be noted that it is estimated that 20,000 to 30,000 German Jews visiting the US during the mid to late 1930s were allowed by the US government to indefinitely extend their US tourist visas, thus preventing them from having to return to Germany. And it should be noted as well that roughly 75% of Germany’s Jews were able to emigrate from Germany prior to WWII, and only roughly 10% of them emigrated to Palestine. Most went to the US and Western Europe, as well as South America, Africa, and China.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 8:35 am

        As a background, when the US passed the Immigration Act of 1921, it severely limited immigration to the US and put quotas by country of origin on immigration. Despite “common knowledge”, there were no restrictions on Jews per se, only on immigrants based on their country of origin.

        I didn’t say otherwise, but “American” implied the converse, that when the US admitted millions of Jews in the period of mass immigration from the 1880s to the 1920s it was welcoming them as Jews. During that period, it was accepting people from Eastern and Southern Europe, a large proportion of whom happened to be Jews, who had hitherto only moved to the USA in very small numbers.

        While the US is a much larger country than Palestine and certainly could have and should have taken in more Jewish refugees (as well as more non-Jewish refugees who suffered similar gruesome fates), other figures should be taken into consideration when analyzing the US immigration record during this time, vis a vis Jewish immigration….US immigration was skewed towards the Jewish refugees during that time, despite the fact that the numbers were small, too small.

        Sure. In the pre-war years, the US was still in the throes of the Great Depression, it was xenophobic towards all, and the State Department was especially leery of an increase in the Jewish population, though it did accept a token amount.

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 6, 2014, 2:26 pm

        Wait wait. We did not take them in any really significant numbers in WW2 because of the open opposition and lobbying by the Zionist organizations, who wanted the few survivors to be directed to Palestine as illegal colonizers.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 5:45 pm

        puppies says:
        January 6, 2014 at 2:26 pm

        Wait wait. We did not take them in any really significant numbers in WW2 because of the open opposition and lobbying by the Zionist organizations

        Cordell Hull and Sumner Welles were not Zionists. They simply didn’t want an excess of Jews in their country.

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 7, 2014, 3:25 am

        Don’t try to be cute, it’s not in character. I said Zionist organizations, ZOA and all its members, under Rabbi Wise. Opposing the mercy rulings of FDR, etc. Recent history. Public archives. All in plain view. Useless talking to any Zionist anyway, you won’t learn except in an attack of hypocrisy when the rats jump ship.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 7, 2014, 8:29 am

        puppies is correct

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 5:54 am

        puppies says:
        January 7, 2014 at 3:25 am
        I said Zionist organizations, ZOA and all its members, under Rabbi Wise. Opposing the mercy rulings of FDR, etc. Recent history. Public archives.

        The “sin” of mainstream American Zionist leaders such as Stephen Wise during WW2 was that they were afraid to aggressively lobby FDR to admit Jewish refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe and had a “shtadlan” mentality, whereas people like Hillel Kook (aka “Peter Bergson”), Ben Hecht, Eri Jabotinsky and other adherents of Revisionist Zionism didn’t suffer from such timidity and engaged in activism such as the Rabbis’ March on Washington and establishing the Emergency Committee to Save Jews to bring attention to the situation in Europe. Establishment Zionism in the US, represented by figures such as Wise, shrank from such tactics and thought quiet behind-the-scenes petitioning was more effective. Which wing of Zionism was correct is a matter of debate. Nevertheless, characterizing Wise’s reluctance to confront the US State Department as “opposing the mercy rulings of FDR” shows your willingness to lie and distort the facts.

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 8, 2014, 11:00 am

        “The “sin” of mainstream American Zionist leaders such as Stephen Wise during WW2 was that they were afraid to aggressively lobby FDR to admit Jewish refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe”

        And that’s why they so actively lobbied *against* admitting Jewish refugees from Europe.
        Some logic you got.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 9, 2014, 5:02 am

        @ puppies

        Looks to me like Stephen Wise, for example, worked constantly behind the scenes to influence FDR to save the Jews of Europe. Read the comments under this article dissing Wise: http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/11/04/the-shameful-legacy-of-rabbi-stephen-wise/

        The suggestion is that Wise feared taking direct public action to save the Jews because he felt anti-semitism was rampant in everyday America at the time and a public call to save the Jews would be counterproductive in helping FDR take America to war against Germany. As we know, the decision was made by Hitler when he honored his reciprocal treaty with imperial Japan a few days after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 10, 2014, 2:57 am

        Yeah, that’s the postwar myth. Talk to those who were around then. Like the late Gollobin.
        Wise and Co opposed tooth and nail the widening of quotas for European Jews in both US and GB. Testified against it in Congress, wrote letters, etc. Against, not timidly pro.
        I believe I had provided a couple refs in a post that seems to have disappeared. Essentially you’ll find them in the refs to Leni Brenner’s book.

        A very short situation summary here:
        http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/ch06.htm
        look up the meetings / congress etc

        “The correlative to the acts of collaboration with the Nazis throughout the 1930’s was that when attempts to change the immigration laws of the United States and Western Europe were contemplated in order to provide token refuge for persecuted Jews of Europe, it was the Zionists who actively organized to stop these efforts.

        Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: “If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative.” [84] This obsession with colonizing Palestine and overwhelming the Arabs led the Zionist movement to oppose any rescue of the Jews facing extermination, because the ability to deflect select manpower to Palestine would be impeded. From 1933 to 1935, the WZO turned down two-thirds of all the German Jews who applied for immigration certificates.

        Berel Katznelson, editor of the Labor Zionist Davar, described the “cruel criteria of Zionism”: German Jews were too old to bear children in Palestine, lacked trades for building a Zionist colony, didn’t speak Hebrew and weren’t Zionists. In place of these Jews facing extermination the WZO brought to Palestine 6,000 trained young Zionists from the United States, Britain and other safe countries. Worse than this, the WZO not merely failed to seek any alternative for the Jews facing the Holocaust, the Zionist leadership opposed belligerently all efforts to find refuge for fleeing Jews.

        As late as 1943, while the Jews of Europe were being exterminated in their millions, the U.S. Congress proposed to set up a commission to “study” the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.

        This is the same Rabbi Wise who, in 1938, in his capacity as leader of the American Jewish Congress, wrote a letter in which he opposed any change in U.S. immigration laws which would enable Jews to find refuge. He stated:

        It may interest you to know that some weeks ago the representatives of all the leading Jewish organizations met in conference … It was decided that no Jewish organization would, at this time, sponsor a bill which would in any way alter the immigration laws. [85]”

    • American
      American
      January 6, 2014, 2:08 pm

      MahaneYehude1 says:
      January 6, 2014 at 11:52 am
      @seafoid:

      Could you, please, tell us how your government treats the asylum seekers? could you, please, tell us what do you do personally for the asylum seekers in your country? I do thank you in advance.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      We pay the taxes to support the Jewish Russians immigrants dumped on the US by Israel. Frankly I think the group that claims to be the ‘World Wide Nation of Jews’ should pay the bills for ‘their people’ since ‘their people’ are part of the World Wide nation of Jews.

      U.S. HOUSE APPROVES LEGISLATION TO EXTEND BENEFITS FOR JEWISH IMMIGRANTS

      September 17, 2008

      UJC today hailed the U.S. House of Representatives for passing the SSI Extension for Elderly and Disabled Refugee Act. UJC played a key role in the faith-based advocacy coalition led by the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS).

      Specifically, this legislation extends the maximum period that elderly and disabled legal immigrants can receive SSI benefits from seven to nine years. The SSI program provides monthly payments to low-income individuals who are blind, disabled, or 65 and older. Currently, legal immigrants only receive payments for seven years unless they are able to successfully apply for naturalization – a feat rarely achieved due to bureaucratic red tape and immigration backlogs.

      “Each year, thousands of Jewish individuals legally move to this country in search of their own vision of the American dream,” says William C. Daroff, vice president for public policy and director of UJC Washington. “It is outrageous that legal immigrants who have taken honest steps towards naturalization have been denied SSI benefits simply because the federal government has been unable to process their applications in a timely fashion.”

      Legislation to extend SSI benefits to legal immigrants has been pending in Congress for a number of years. The Senate and House champions who have supported this legislation include: Senators Gordon Smith (D-OR), Herb Kohl (D-WI), and Benjamin Cardin (D-MD), as well as Representatives Jim McDermott (D-WA) and Jerry Weller (R-IL). House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is a long-time leading supporter of extending these essential benefits to legal immigrants, and was instrumental in today’s passage.

      “It has taken many years of hard work to see this legislation through to completion,” said Daroff. “Despite the long and bumpy road, these Senate and House champions never swayed in their support of this bill. Because of their continued commitment, Jewish and other legal immigrants will be able to continue to receive their benefits without fear their hope of the American dream will be lost in a sea of bureaucratic red tape.”

      Today’s House passage gives final congressional approval to the legislation. The bill now moves to the President, who is expected to sign it into law.”

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 6, 2014, 8:11 pm

        Yes, the US made some very bad deals impacting US best interests when it negotiated with the Russians to allow mass immigration of soviet Jews to Israel, taking their taxpayer funded high academic expertise with them.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      January 6, 2014, 3:54 pm

      Work hard for immigration reform.

      Look at what has been happening in Dayton Ohio

      http://www.welcomedayton.org/

    • Ellen
      Ellen
      January 6, 2014, 5:04 pm

      Could you, please, tell us how your government treats the asylum seekers? could you, please, tell us what do you do personally for the asylum seekers in your country? I do thank you in advance.

      Here you go in my current region.

      the International Institute of St. Louis, meet refugees at the airport, take them to housing that has been obtained for them, provide orientation, and help them begin the process of building a new life in America. Depending on the needs of the refugee family, services can include registration for English classes for adults and public school for children, job program registration, on-going orientation and healthcare access.

      The US Department of State, Bureau of Population, Migration & Refugees (PRM) provides a modest per capita resettlement grant to each sponsoring agency to help address the refugees’ housing, food and other basic needs for up to 90 days after arrival. Refugees are liable for their IOM travel loans, which can frequently cost $1,500 per refugee. New arrivals must begin paying pack their travel loans less than six months after arrival in the U.S.
      http://www.iistl.org/stlouisrefugee.html

      And from the Federal Government:

      The Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration provides aid and sustainable solutions for refugees, victims of conflict and stateless people around the world, through repatriation, local integration, and resettlement in the United States.

      http://www.state.gov/j/prm/

      But Israel is sooooo worried about reaming Jewish and White only…. You know remaining a Jewish state, blah blah. So build prisons in the desert for the “inflitrators.”

      Maybe Zionists want to join up with those who also want to remain “racially pure” like the Arian Nation and KKK? Same philosophy, right?

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 5:32 pm

        But Israel is sooooo worried about reaming Jewish and White only

        Noooo….Israel has never been Jewish-only and a significant proportion of its Jewish population isn’t even “white.”

        Israel does have a responsibility to provide shelter to any legitimate asylum-seekers, but it doesn’t have a duty to give permanent citizenship or residency rights to anyone claiming political or ethnic persecution.

      • Ellen
        Ellen
        January 7, 2014, 4:21 am

        Mikhael, Israel had labeled all as “infiltrators.” That is the language the government is using. Think about it.

        You are debating imaginary stuff. No one anywhere said Israel has a duty to give citizenship or permanent status to refugees.

        What process does Israel have in place to determine legitimate Asylum seekers? And for shelter and integration of refugees? Other than the new prison, that is.

        Perhaps I should clarify. Israel demands to be recognized as a “Jewish Nation.” Leadership and resources are for the White Man. What current political leader declared “This belongs to the White Man.” Wasn’t it Israel’s interior minister, Eli Yishai? Or more precisely, he said concerning migrants and refugees, “Most of those people arriving here are Muslims who think the country doesn’t belong to us,the White Man.”

        Refugees have poured into TelAviv, settling in the poorest areas. This is surely a strain on neighborhoods that were already struggling. The not so white Mizrahi neighborhoods.

        But think about this: what if the Likud and Shas has supported development, enterprise and enfranchment in those neighborhoods for the “dark Jews” instead of pumping all that money and support into the illegal settlements on occupied lands for White Jews from Brooklyn and Odessa?

        The mess is of Israel’s own making and it has everything to do with the racial/ethnic politics of the state.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 7, 2014, 6:08 am

        Israel brands itself as “the Jewish state.”

        Imagine if America branded itself as “the Christian state.”

        “What current political leader declared “This belongs to the White Man.” Wasn’t it Israel’s interior minister, Eli Yishai? Or more precisely, he said concerning migrants and refugees, “Most of those people arriving here are Muslims who think the country doesn’t belong to us,the White Man.”

        In America, David Duke is not America’s Secretary of the Interior. Instead, he’s banished to the fringe, unacceptable in government, and a cultural pariah. Why? He’s smart, fairly well educated, is a good family man who says he’s a Christian, and born so; many think he’s handsome and charming too. He’s ostensibly not even a hater, his political stance is simply the vision of an America “separate but equal.” The reason is because he’s a white racist. And the US Constitution, as amended (and enforced by state police power), states all American citizens are to be treated by the state and local governments as equals, regardless of race, color, or creed.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 7, 2014, 8:31 am

        Ellen: Mikhael, Israel had labeled all as “infiltrators.”

        Yes, all Gentiles, because they are Gentiles. Which is quite ironic, because Hertzl called Zionist immigration “Judeninfiltration” (Jews infiltration).

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 6:45 am

        Mikhael, Israel had labeled all as “infiltrators.” That is the language the government is using. Think about it.

        If they have crossed the border illegally, then they are infiltrating, aren’t they?

        You are debating imaginary stuff. No one anywhere said Israel has a duty to give citizenship or permanent status to refugees.

        What process does Israel have in place to determine legitimate Asylum seekers?

        I happen to think that Israel should implement a better process of reviewing asylum claims and be more liberal in granting such status instead of the current system, and I think that they should be allowed to work legally in Israel while their claims are being vetted. Allowing them to work legally would reduce the petty crime statistics, which has shot up in the areas these migrants have moved into. But Israel has in fact granted refugee status and even citizenship in the past to many claimants (going back to the Vietnamese boat people in the 1970s), and even granted citizenship as recently as the past decade to many asylum-seekers from Darfur.

        And for shelter and integration of refugees? Other than the new prison, that is.

        Israel has limited resources and can’t take in an unlimited number of claimants. Up until recently, people from Sudan, Eritrea and other places have been coming in increasingly large numbers precisely because Israel has been relatively much more hospitable to them than any other country in the region. That’s why they don’t stay in Egypt, which they have to pass through to get to Israel. That’s why they shell out thousands to smugglers, who might rape them, steal their organs, or hold them for ransom until their relatives pay up to get them across the Sinai and into Israel. For years, it has been known that whether they live there in a legal limbo or not, Israel presents a safe haven AND an opportunity to earn money.
        The logic behind the new open-door detention policy is that real refugees, people who are truly fear persecution and death if they return to their home countries, shouldn’t mind being housed in a temporary shelter like the “Holot” facility (which you characterize as a “prison”) and provided with dorm accommodations (nice than some youth hostels I’ve visited), three daily meals, recreational facilities, Internet access, and libraries and classes while their claims are being reviewed, if the alternative is being sent back home to be persecuted by the regimes they are fleeing. (Jewish refugees from Germany and Austria fleeing Nazism who managed to reach the UK were also interned because they were regarded as enemy aliens, some were sent to camps in the Australian Outback, and Somes Island in New Zealand–it didn’t occur to them to march on London and demand anything–although many petitioned to fight in His Majesty’s Armed Forces against the Nazis–and of course the camps they were interned in provided them with shelter.) On the other hand, if the main motive for these people coming to Israel was to earn money in the wealthiest economy in the region, whether they are exploited and underpaid in relation to Israelis or not–cooling your heels at a facility on the border without an opportunity to work is not going to be an attractive option.

        Clearly, many of these people are actual refugees fleeing oppressive regimes, and Israel has a duty to ensure that while they are in Israel they have an opportunity to present their cases. But many of them (if not most) are simply economic migrants. Wanting to earn money and send it back to your family back home may be laudable, but it’s not Israel’s responsibility to help them achieve this goal.

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 7, 2014, 5:01 am

        Mikhael “Israel does have a responsibility to provide shelter to any legitimate asylum-seekers, but it doesn’t have a duty to give permanent citizenship or residency rights to anyone claiming political or ethnic persecution” or dispossession or statelessness.

        The same criteria applies BTW to the Arab states who have generously hosted Palestine refugees for 65 years

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 6:50 am

        The same criteria applies BTW to the Arab states who have generously hosted Palestine refugees for 65 years

        Arabs talk a good game about “Arab unity”, but they’ve never been “generous” to “Palestine refugees for 65 years” (with the possible exception of Jordan). The Palestinian Arab refugees living in Lebanon are of the same ethnicity, speak the same Arabic dialect, and have had generations born in Lebanon, but few are allowed to work legally in Lebanon. (Plenty of Sri Lankans and Filipinos get work visas to work as domestics in Lebanon, but not Palestinians)

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 6:12 pm

        Here you go in my current region.
        the International Institute of St. Louis, meet refugees at the airport, take them to housing that has been obtained for them, provide orientation, and help them begin the process of building a new life in America. Depending on the needs of the refugee family, services can include registration for English classes for adults and public school for children, job program registration, on-going orientation and healthcare access.

        You’re talking about people who have already had their refugee status approved by the State Department outside the US after applying for it in a third country and having their claims investigated and vetted. In the cases where such claims have been approved (usually after waiting for several years at a minimum), then yes, such individuals can be welcomed at US airports by the non-governmental NGOs such as the one you mentioned.

        Those people who simply land at US airports and claim asylum are promptly detained and can spend years in facilities such as the publicly traded CCA’s Elizabeth NJ detention facility, where inmates are occasionally shackled, and unlike Israel’s Holot facilty, have no freedom of movement:

        http://blog.nj.com/njv_amy_gottlieb/2007/10/jailing_immigrants_in_elizabet.html

        The Australians don’t have to worry about asylum claimants walking out of an open-door facility locked away like 3500 km from the mainland on Christmas Island.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Island_Immigration_Reception_and_Processing_Centre

        And of course, the migrant protestors know they have nothing to fear, because Israel isn’t Egypt:

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/31/sudan.brianwhitaker

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/04/sudan.mainsection
        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/04/sudan.mainsection

    • ziusudra
      ziusudra
      January 6, 2014, 5:57 pm

      Greetings M. Yehude1,
      How did 60K Africans get to enter into Israel?
      Now you know what the Italians, Greeks, Turks, Germans & French are going through.
      Israel is a Democracy, you can handle it.
      ziusudra

    • talknic
      talknic
      January 6, 2014, 10:01 pm

      MahaneYehude1 tell us how your government treats the asylum seekers?”

      If they can be ascertained to be genuine asylum seekers, Australia gives them asylum

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 7, 2014, 1:22 am

        @talknic:

        “I’m disappointed to report that my own country Australia treats asylum seekers worse even than Israel does: locks them in prisons – men, women and children – for years at a time.”

        http://mondoweiss.net/2013/12/african-jerusalem-detention.html/comment-page-1#comment-621223

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 7, 2014, 5:04 am

        MahaneYehude1 January 7, 2014 at 1:22 am

        As I said … http://mondoweiss.net/2013/12/african-jerusalem-detention.html/comment-page-1#comment-621223 More than 90% are eventually ‘processed’ as genuine refugees

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 7, 2014, 12:48 pm

        @talknic:

        More than 90% are eventually ‘processed’ as genuine refugees

        Ynet Jan/7/14:
        Australia pushes refugee boats at sea
        This legal? Legal experts disagree: According to testimony, Australia coping with the influx of immigrants began to use military force to ward off immigrant boats back to Indonesian waters: (Hebrew)
        http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4474198,00.html

      • Sumud
        Sumud
        January 7, 2014, 8:47 am

        Nice selective quote Mahane. Thanks for correcting him talknic.

        Tell me Mahane: how many non-jewish refugees were granted full Israeli citizenship last year in Israel?

        Australia took in about 30,000 last year, about 1 in 1,000 for our population – and many countries rank higher.

        http://www.factsfightback.org.au/does-australia-take-the-most-refugees-check-the-facts/

        How many did Israel take in?

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 8, 2014, 11:00 am

        @Sumud:

        What’s the problem? Where is your honesty? I assume you feel uncomfortable when a Zionist like me quote your comment and use it. BTW, I sent link to your complete comment.

        “How many did Israel take in?”
        How many did Israel “kick out” to the sea? The fact is that the asylum seekers are still in Israel, not in Eritrea. By the time, Israel will find just solution for all of them.

      • amigo
        amigo
        January 7, 2014, 12:45 pm

        Mahane 1/2 or 3???.

        5th request.

        When are you going to condemn the GOI claiming that The Settler attacks are of the Palestinians making and ergo , their own fault.

        If you refuse to condemn Israel for this, your condemnation of the squatter thieves is just hasbara.

        Come clean.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 7, 2014, 5:31 pm

        @Amigo;

        Sorry, you posted here too many replies to me and it is behind my ability to respond to each of them. I just want to tell you that when Israel will be in the same situation like Ireland, living peacefully without missile attacks for instance, be sure that Israel will act like Ireland. Meanwhile, we have to struggle for our existence here in the neighborhood called the Middle East, which, unfortunately, is not nice neighborhood.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 8, 2014, 6:39 am

        Last time I looked, Ireland was still occupied, in part, by British colonials; “the troubles” aren’t yet over. Ireland’s natives, are the Irish. Israel’s natives are the Palestinians, by and large. And of course, In Israel’s OT, the Palestinians are the natives, and the Jewish settlers keep taking more of their land.

  3. Cliff
    Cliff
    January 6, 2014, 11:53 am

    Quick, quick – some Zio go bomb an empty bus and say it was a terrorist attack.

    Or talk about antisemitism.

    Or how no country is perfect, blah blah double standards.

    Or about suicide bombing. Or about the Holocaust. Blah blah blah blah

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      January 6, 2014, 2:00 pm

      Bet Israeli regime is in panic now with these anti-racist protests.

    • Kris
      Kris
      January 6, 2014, 8:11 pm

      Don’t forget delegitimization of Israel. And the worse things that are happening somewhere else in the world.

    • amigo
      amigo
      January 8, 2014, 10:20 am

      this is a reply to clan mahane.

      “Sorry, you posted here too many replies to me and it is behind my ability to respond to each of them.”mahane

      7 of them cover the same subject so you have no excuse.Nice try though.

      So given your refusal to condemn Israel we can only assume you agree that the Palestinians are to blame for the price tag attacks because they did not protect their property without weapons against the criminal settlers and the IDF.

      Thanks for making your position clear.

      ” I just want to tell you that when Israel will be in the same situation like Ireland, living peacefully without missile attacks for instance, be sure that Israel will act like Ireland.” mahane

      When Israel treats it,s neighbours as Ireland has and does treat it,s, then the Missiles, (mostly home made tin can devices) will stop.When Israel stops it,s land theft and criminal oppression , the neighbourhood would be much nicer.

      So quit the eternal victim nonsense.Israel is the problem not the solution.

      Oh btw, Israel will never be like Ireland.Ireland is amongst the most liked nations on the planet.Israel is the most hated,right up there with Iran.But that will change when the next poll is done this summer.

      You are hopelessly in denial.

  4. Ira Glunts
    Ira Glunts
    January 6, 2014, 12:08 pm

    Allison, great post and photos. I think this is an exciting and important story and I hope you will be able to continue following the story.

    Isn’t it amazing for Mondoweiss to have on the scene reporting about this inspiring protest movement?

    @seafoid The asylum seekers actions also got me thinking about the Palestinians and mass civil protests. Let’s see what happens with the asylum seekers. Of course, the Israelis have much more leverage that they can use against the Palestinians both in the OT and in Israel than they have over the Africans.

    And this is a really mass protest. Saturday night the Israeli police estimated 30,000 participated in the march to Rabin Square. That is half of the estimated total number of refugees!

    Netanyahu declared he would rid Israel of the Africans this morning at a Likud meeting despite official condemnation from the UN.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      January 6, 2014, 12:32 pm

      “Isn’t it amazing for Mondoweiss to have on the scene reporting about this inspiring protest movement?”

      I agree whole heartedly, Ira. Great job, Allison. Keep up the good work!!

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      January 6, 2014, 12:53 pm

      @ Ira

      The Israelis assume eternal mass Palestinian compliance. Serious protests would scare the shit out of them. Imagine 50k marching on east jerusalem.

      • MahaneYehude1
        MahaneYehude1
        January 6, 2014, 1:00 pm

        @seafoid:

        Imagine 50k marching on east Jerusalem.

        About a year ago or more, the Palestinians arranged “the march of the million” through the facebook. Only several tens participated in the march, most of them journalists and photographers. I wonder why.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        January 6, 2014, 1:59 pm

        @ Mahane

      • yrn
        yrn
        January 6, 2014, 2:08 pm

        MahaneYehude1

        “About a year ago or more, the Palestinians arranged the march of the million”

        There were Millions in the march, point is they didn’t know the direction.
        Allison sent them to New Jerusalem in California.

      • Cliff
        Cliff
        January 6, 2014, 5:06 pm

        @Kahane

        Because Jewish Israelis are by and large, fanatical racists and happy colonists.

        The protesters here are mostly African. Not White Jews.

      • talknic
        talknic
        January 6, 2014, 7:25 pm

        MahaneYehude1 “Only several tens participated in the march, most of them journalists and photographers. I wonder why”

        Uh? You didn’t know Palestinians are under occupation? WOW!!

        Maybe problems getting to the march because of Israeli checkpoints, road blocks, goons

      • Kris
        Kris
        January 6, 2014, 8:14 pm

        Maybe they didn’t want to be murdered by the IDF.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 6, 2014, 8:19 pm

        @ MahaneYehude1
        You wonder why more Palestinians didn’t join the march of the million? Have you ever been hit with skunk or a rubber bullet, or a canister? Where do you live that you don’t know the Palestinians live under brutal occupation? And the Arab Israeli’s are second-class citizens?

      • puppies
        puppies
        January 7, 2014, 12:05 am

        People marching on Jerusalem get mowed down by bullets, as in the last two RoR marches.
        I’d recommend to Mehane to get a taste of it before inciting a rerun.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      January 6, 2014, 3:55 pm

      What Ira said…great reporting Allison. Sure hope folks share this story wherever they can

  5. Theo
    Theo
    January 6, 2014, 12:22 pm

    So again, the US embassy had to shut down, it seems it becomes a regular procedure, not only in moslem lands, but now at our best friends, the shining democracy in the ME!
    Perhaps the palestinians watch this and grow cojones and join the fun, putting real pressure on Niniyahoo, ringing in the last round of this shameful farce we so dearly support.

    Allison, great job and keep it up!!

  6. W.Jones
    W.Jones
    January 6, 2014, 12:26 pm

    Congratulations to them.

    • W.Jones
      W.Jones
      January 6, 2014, 12:39 pm

      If Israel had more Africans, their country would be more diverse and multicultural, and eventually, I think, tolerant, including of Palestinians. Perhaps especially of Palestinians.

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 6, 2014, 6:20 pm

        If Israel had more Africans, their country would be more diverse and multicultural, and eventually, I think, tolerant, including of Palestinians. Perhaps especially of Palestinians.

        Israeli Jews whose forebears lived in African countries, whether they are white or brown Israeli Sefaradi Jews from places like Morocco and Tunisia, or black Israeli Jews whose families came from Ethiopia, tend to vote Likud and are often hardline vis-a-vis the Palestinians.

        Even non-Jews resident in Israel (foreign workers from places like Thailand, asylum-seekers from Africa) etc. tend to sympathize with Israel. Quite a few of them have been victimized by Arab terrorism.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/world/middleeast/19gaza.html?_r=0

      • annie
        annie
        January 6, 2014, 6:54 pm

        Israeli Jews whose forebears lived in African countries…… tend to vote Likud

        do you have any source articles on this?

        asylum-seekers from Africa…tend to sympathize with Israel.

        do you have any source articles on this?

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 7:45 am

        Annie Robbins says:
        January 6, 2014 at 6:54 pm
        Israeli Jews whose forebears lived in African countries…… tend to vote Likud
        do you have any source articles on this?

        Anyone with minimal basic knowledge about Israeli society would know that Sepharadi and Mizrahi Jews–especially those with heritage in North Africa–Moroccans, Tunisians, etc. have historically tended to vote for Likud and other right-wing parties. Begin’s 1977 electoral victory was attributed to this constituency. If you won’t accept the opinion of an Israeli like me who has many relatives of North African background, nearly all of whom are hardline Likudniks, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the dynamics of Iseaeli society. Not all Sefaradi, Mizrahi and North African Jews are right-wing (I’m an example of a left-wing Zionist of Mizrahi heritage), but most of us are.

        This is one of the oldest stories of ethnic voting in Israel. North African Jews can be counted to vote Likud like American blacks vote Democrat (post-1965, at least) and Mormons vote Republican. If you don’t know this, then noting you say about Israel can be taken seriously.

        http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-10-09/news/8802050660_1_sephardim-likud-labor-party

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud#Culture

        As for Israelis of Ethiopian-Jewish heritage, they too, more often than not, vote Likud (and Shas), following much the same pattern as Israelis whose families used to live in Morrocco, Tunisian, Algeria, etc.
        Part of their loyalty to Likud is connected to the recognition that it was under Begin that the mass immigration to Israel began (Operation Moses) and Ethiopian-Jewish fealty to Shas has to do with their gratitude to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, who issued the halakhic decision affirming their status as Jews. Formerly many Israelis of Ethiopian-Jewish heritage voted National Religious Party, a right-wing Zionist pro-settlement party, now that it’s defunct, those votes go to the National Union.

        Although the first Ethiopian-born Knesset member was from the Labour Party (Addisu Massala) , they are not much of a contender for the Ethiopian vote.

        http://www.haaretz.co.il/misc/1.1086632

        http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A6%D7%90%D7%99_%D7%90%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%94#.D7.A4.D7.95.D7.9C.D7.99.D7.98.D7.99.D7.A7.D7.94

        asylum-seekers from Africa…tend to sympathize with Israel.

        do you have any source articles on this?

        Every African I encountered in Israel was effusive in how great Israel is, and that’s been the prevalent attitude until Israel started sending them back home or interning them.

        That’s why they want to stay. If it sucked so bad, they’d be begging to go somewhere else.

        http://www.jta.org/2012/05/17/news-opinion/world/south-sudan-worlds-youngest-nation-develops-unlikely-friendship-with-israel

        This is a 14-year old article from Derfner (who now writes for 972 and Mondoweiss), about foreign guest workers (mostly Asians and Latinos) during the 2nd Intifada–(before the big African “refugee” influx which began c. 2005)

        http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000189.html

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick
        January 6, 2014, 8:46 pm

        The article you cite talks about the death of a Thai worker in 2010 by a rocket attack from “Hamas controlled” territory, though another group claimed responsibility. How this translates into “sympathy” for Israel I have no idea. Many of these foreign workers live and work in deplorable conditions in Israel. As for Jews from Africa they learn pretty quick that if you want to prove yourself a “good Israeli” you need to hate Arabs. It’s like a rite of passage.

      • W.Jones
        W.Jones
        January 7, 2014, 11:18 pm

        “As for Jews from Africa they learn pretty quick that if you want to prove yourself a “good Israeli” you need to hate Arabs. It’s like a rite of passage.”

        Is the end result that very many of the African immigrants have similar generalizations about Palestinians then?

        Or are the immigrants more sympathetic than others in the society?

      • Mikhael
        Mikhael
        January 8, 2014, 8:23 am

        a blah chick says:
        January 6, 2014 at 8:46 pm
        The article you cite talks about the death of a Thai worker in 2010 by a rocket attack from “Hamas controlled” territory, though another group claimed responsibility. How this translates into “sympathy” for Israel I have no idea.

        The territory is “Hamas-controlled” because Hamas controls it.
        Conditions for foreign workers vary. Undocumented workers in Israel, like elsewhere, risk being taking advantage of by employers who think they can get away with it if the workers are uninformed about their rights or intimidated. In the case of Thai workers, they mostly arrive on contract. The work is hard and labor-intensive, but that’s what they sign up to do and they earn many times more in a few weeks in Israel than what they would earn in Thailand doing the same thing. Some foreign workers get exploited by some unscrupulous bosses, and that’s not okay, but when employers try these things workers have recourse to NGOs like Kav le Oved (workers’ hotline) and Israeli labor courts that foreign workers don’t have access to in places like Saudi Arabia and Dubai.

        How this translates into “sympathy” for Israel I have no idea.

        If you’re a Thai farm worker enduring rocket barrages from Hamas-controlled Gaza just because you want to send money home to the Isan region, how you would expect them to have “sympathy” for the Palestinian Arabs who are trying to kill them (and have succeeded in doing so several times), I have no idea.

        As for Jews from Africa they learn pretty quick that if you want to prove yourself a “good Israeli” you need to hate Arabs. It’s like a rite of passage.

        North African and Ethiopian Jews do not tend to vote for Likud and other parties on the right of the Zionist spectrum because they “hate” Arabs, but because they are usually people with a traditional Jewish mindset and these parties play to that affinity. The Israeli Left is perceived as European, alien, secular; Likud and other parties on the Zionist right have traditionally portrayed themselves as down-home, traditional, and folksy, these are values that appeal to Israeli Jews with roots in Ethiopia or Morocco.

        While many North African Jews had good relations with individual Arab neighbors, in places like Morrocco orTunisia , many others also carry memories of humiliations that accompanied life for impoverished Jews in the mellah (the Jewish quarters), and they remember the attitudes encompassed in this quote by Moroccan writer Said Ghallab. “The worst insult that a Moroccan could possibly offer was to treat someone as a Jew….My childhood friends have remained anti-Jewish. They hide their virulent anti-Semitism by contending that the State of Israel was the creature of Western imperialism….A whole Hitlerite myth is being cultivated among the populace. The massacres of the Jews by Hitler are exalted ecstatically. It is even credited that Hitler is not dead, but alive and well, and his arrival is awaited to deliver the Arabs from Israel.

        Israeli Jews of Ethiopian-Jewish heritage, whose forefathers were reviled and ostracized as buda (hyena people) by Ethiopian Christians and forbidden to own land in that country for centuries, now that they are living freely as Jews in their own homeland, are not disposed to look kindly on people who they believe desire nothing less than to evict them from their country and return them to the state their ancestors lived in.

        They believe that parties like the Likud will prevent this from happening.

  7. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    January 6, 2014, 1:07 pm

    The insanity of Zionism is illustrated by the fact that an Ethiopian will be granted automatic citizenship in Israeli so long as he/she can prove themselves to be ”Jewish”. But another African who looks just like them, and shares much of the same culture, will be despised and considered a demographic threat just because he/she is Christian or Muslim.

    Madness.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      January 6, 2014, 4:31 pm

      ancient history

      http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/History/Pages/ZIONISM-%20Timeline%20of%20Events.aspx#1940

      1941

      The Patria, carrying illegal immigrants about to be deported to Mauritius, is sabotaged by the Haganah to prevent its sailing; it sinks in Haifa harbor with 250 aboard

      1942

      The Struma, returning to Europe after British insistence that it would not be allowed into port in Palestine, founders in the Black Sea and all 770 persons aboard perish

      1947

      4500 refugees who left Europe on the Exodus are not allowed to disembark in Palestine and are sent back to Europe

  8. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    January 6, 2014, 1:59 pm

    Where is netanyahu, obama now to defend this racism?

  9. hophmi
    hophmi
    January 6, 2014, 2:13 pm

    Look Mondoweissers: This is what a protest looks like in a democratic country. Tell your Palestinian friends to take notice.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      January 6, 2014, 2:58 pm

      We don’t have to tell our Palestinian friends anything, hoppy. Their protests would look exactly like this if your Jewish friends didn’t fire on them with rubber bullets, tear gas canisters, attack them, and generally act like the SA at a Red Front rally every time the Palestinians had the gall to ask for rights in their own land while being non-Jews.

    • Kathleen
      Kathleen
      January 6, 2014, 3:58 pm

      Hey Hop can you talk to your friends in the Israeli government and the IDF and ask them why they throw non violent Palestinian organizers into prison along with those who commit violent crimes. Can you ask the IDF why they have and continue to use violence against non violet Palestinian protesters over the decades?

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      January 6, 2014, 4:26 pm

      Hoph

      the Palestinians don’t have a country. Tell your bots.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      January 6, 2014, 8:10 pm

      Look Mondoweissers: This is what a protest looks like in a democratic country.

      True, some Israelis even sound like Neo-Nazis in Germany.

      Tell your Palestinian friends to take notice.

      Tell this to your friends in your antigentile pseudo democracy: http://www.btselem.org/demonstrations/military_order_101

    • Kris
      Kris
      January 6, 2014, 8:30 pm

      @hophmi– Really? This is not what a protest looks in a “democracy, ” it is what a protest looks like in an Israel that doesn’t want to underline its racism at this time by shooting African asylum seekers in the streets in front of the news cameras of the world. Racism (except against Palestinians) is not socially acceptable. And President Obama is black.

      At the nonviolent protests held every week by Palestinians, the IDF shoots at the protestors with live ammunition and has killed people by shooting tear gas canisters directly at their heads. With total impunity.

      Later, under cover of night, the brave IDF soldiers break into Palestinian homes, terrorize whole families, drag children out of their beds into custody, and trash everything in the house. The IDF soldiers are also thieves, and steal the little that their victims have.

      In a “democracy,” you would not have soldiers shooting an unarmed woman. Or anyone else.
      http://www.palestinechronicle.com/in-video-nabi-saleh-woman-shot-at-close-range-by-israeli-forces/#.UstaOaWE6f0

      Israel is what a fascist country looks like.

  10. hophmi
    hophmi
    January 6, 2014, 3:20 pm

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/does-immigration-mean-france-is-over/

    “It is difficult to go more than a day in France without hearing someone express the conviction that the greatest problem in the country is its ethnic minorities, that the presence of immigrants compromises the identity of France itself… In the past year I have witnessed incessant stop-and-frisk of young black men in the Gare du Nord; in contrast with New York, here in Paris this practice is scarcely debated. I was told by a taxi driver as we passed through a black neighborhood: “I hope you got your shots. You don’t need to go to Africa anymore to get a tropical disease.”

    Guess we should boycott France.

    • Cliff
      Cliff
      January 7, 2014, 3:43 am

      What hophead is saying is that since other countries did X bad thing, the Jewish State should be able to do it too.

      Like incinerate Palestinian children with white phosphorus. How dare you single out Israel for killing civilians and children with cruel, bizarre weaponry!

      You are so brave, hophead. Truly a righteous (perpetual) victim.

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      January 7, 2014, 8:38 am

      Or – to imitate the Israeli method – imprison all Jewish “infiltrators” and their descendants, who were not citizens of Palestine on 15 May 1948 or even shoot them, if they try to “return”. It’s your sense of justice and humanity, isn’t it?

  11. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    January 6, 2014, 6:18 pm

    Palestinians, who watched Israeli onlookers jeer at the marches, shouting “Go home!” and “back to Africa Europe!” , had similar sentiments.

  12. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    January 6, 2014, 8:34 pm

    To all the hasbarists out there let me explain to you what is going on.

    Israel does not want these dark-skinned non-Jews because they fear it will shift the demographic balance. This balance must be maintained because…

    THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THE ASHKENAZI ELITE CAN STAY IN POWER.

    These people have been running the country, some would say into the ground, from the very beginning. They have a cushy thing going and consequently don’t want to give it up.

    Now, here’s another nasty truth, these Jewish elites feel little solidarity with their co-religionists. Oh, they will talk up Jewish unity or culture or traditions but in the end what they really care about is staying in control. As a result they are perfectly willing to throw other Jews under the bus as they see fit. Think about those folks in Jaffa on fixed incomes or pensions who must be thrown out of their homes to make way for condos and luxury hotels. And how about those IDF troops that died at the end of Israel’s killing spree in Lebanon in 2006 simply because Olmert needed to get his poll numbers up.

    The tribal system that Israel has established is needed not to sustain Jewish culture or traditions but to keep the ruling class in power.
    Period.

  13. dbroncos
    dbroncos
    January 6, 2014, 11:18 pm

    Black protesters in Israel demanding to be treated like equals, like human beings. What to do, what to do? Netanyahu’s government understands that this is a different kind of problem for Israel’s hasbarachiks. It would be tough to spin them as terrorists – they’re not Arabs. Police dogs, water cannons and billy clubs are out of the question. What to do, what to do…?

    • NickJOCW
      NickJOCW
      January 7, 2014, 9:04 am

      What to do, what to do…? . Well, they could go back behind their UN designated borders and enclose themselves with an 8 metre wall. Then few would care that much what they get up to.

      _______________

      That others are just as bad is an insidious justification that logically leads back to brutal barbarism. The inhuman comments of local bystanders, comments I have seen expressed before on vox pop video interviews with Israelis, show precisely the direction that attitude leads. Dependence on such arguments will galvanize all mankind in opposition because it supports precisely what civilization has struggled to overcome since human societies first formed.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        January 7, 2014, 12:07 pm

        “Dependence on such arguments will galvanize all mankind in opposition because it supports precisely what civilization has struggled to overcome since human societies first formed.”

        Especially modern civilization in the form of international law, paid for by two linked world wars, applying the principles of Nuremberg and the Tokyo War Crimes Trials on a universal basis. Those trials were not even over when the Zionists Jews broke them to create the state of Israel. It’s a disgrace that the PTB then allowed this, making the most basic mistake in that two wrongs don’t make a right. Truman erred, basically just to retain office, and the US regimes since 1967 have been severely complicit in enabling the very Darwinian principles America fought against at Nuremberg and Toyko. Goering’s laughing in his grave, as is Goebbels.

  14. OlegR
    OlegR
    January 7, 2014, 9:31 am

    “Refugees”,
    predominantly 80% young (20-45) single males that traveled through 3 or 4 countries where they would have been safe to get to the one state that has a western standard of living.

    Btw how are things with the Mexican illegal immigrants, all naturalized ?

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