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Page A8 in the New York Times today. This is repulsive. What would your old aunt say who gets the paper? It’s against common decency. And that’s the “spirit” of Israel– humping?

The Jewish National Fund has to sell sex because the virtues of that place don’t stand on their own.

Legal discrimination, not sexy.

Ethnic cleansing, not sexy.

Brute force and violence, not sexy.

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  1. Cliff
    Cliff on April 1, 2014, 8:41 pm

    ‘J Date: Get Chosen’

    LOL

    I remember when Shlomo Sand was touring the UK and US for his book. The same Zionist hack gave him an earful about his interpretation of the notion of ‘Chosenness’.

    Multiple times, this deranged Zionist said Sand was antisemitic because he implied ‘Chosenness’ was seen by Jews as an entitlement or something. Rather than whatever it supposedly ‘really’ is (a ‘responsibility’?).

    Anyways, I’ve read quite a few other Zionists complain about the alleged decontextualization of ‘Chosenness’. Just look up Wondering Jew’s comment history.

    Although the same guy also calls Judaism a ‘corporation’ – which is not very farm from the antisemite Kevin MacDonald’s thesis that Judaism is a ‘group evolutionary strategy’.

    The conclusion we should take away from all of this naval contemplation and Zionist self-worship is that it’s ok to trivialize Judaism and/or Zionism if you’re a Zionist. Zionists apparently OWN Judaism. Judaism is a property of Big Zion, according to them, so you have to pay them a royalty fee (plus they need to give you the stamp of approval).

    • JeffB
      JeffB on April 1, 2014, 11:08 pm

      @Cliff

      The conclusion we should take away from all of this naval contemplation and Zionist self-worship is that it’s ok to trivialize Judaism and/or Zionism if you’re a Zionist. Zionists apparently OWN Judaism. Judaism is a property of Big Zion, according to them, so you have to pay them a royalty fee (plus they need to give you the stamp of approval).

      You don’t see this sort of thing from Christian Zionists. Once you drop them, well yes. Jews own Judaism and Jews are mostly Zionist. Judaism and Zionism are both the property of the Jews. Judaism is the religion of the Israeli state and the Israeli nation. Zionism was a secular form of Judaism which has mostly merged with 19th century Judaism to create a hybrid religion.

      So yes, Zionism owns Judaism and visa versa.

      • annie
        annie on April 2, 2014, 2:02 am

        Judaism and Zionism are both the property of the Jews.

        i had no idea judaism was a ‘property’.

      • on April 2, 2014, 6:32 am

        Hell, Zionism owns the Nazis, WWII, the Swastika, the “disputed” territories, and so much more.

        Only they can make comparisons between Nazis and –fill in the name–, WWII was solely about the victimization of Jews, the appearance of anything that could possibly be interpreted to be a Swastika is anti-Semitic as apparently nobody else suffered at the hands of the Nazis, one must not call the occupied territories occupied or you are an anti-Semite, and so on ad infinitum

      • pabelmont
        pabelmont on April 2, 2014, 7:41 am

        Is “judaism” protected in the USA under the rubric of “free exercise of religion” (1st Amend.) or under “protection of property” (“nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation”) (5th Amend.). I suppose one preliminary question is whether or not “judaism” could be taken (by anyone for any purpose away from anyone else) (and then, always a popular question: who owns judaism? [Big Zion or some one else?].

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail on April 2, 2014, 4:44 am

        A bizarre concept of ownership, no doubt intended to forestall any outsider analysis or discussion. Zionism is a 19th Century political, nationalist ideology, which has harnessed and exploited Judaism for its own ends. If Zionism is a religion, so is scientology. And like scientology, it relies on fables and myths to award itself rights and privileges which are not available otherwise, in the normal, rational world. And like scientology it has a zealous police force, forever advocating, harassing and manipulating public opinion, not to mention its own members.
        And btw the ad is pathetic, is this how desperate zionism has become to lure new adherents? Maybe they have to stoop to this level, because of the deeply unattractive nature of their core message, and the radical unsexiness of its proponents (!)

      • JeffB
        JeffB on April 2, 2014, 8:59 am

        @justice

        If Zionism is a religion, so is scientology. And like scientology, it relies on fables and myths to award itself rights and privileges which are not available otherwise, in the normal, rational world.

        Of course the Church of Scientology is a religious institution and Scientology the religion of church. As for fables, what do you think religions traffic in? Finally as for privileges Zionism grants itself are most certainly available in the real world as demonstrated by Israel itself.

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail on April 2, 2014, 12:21 pm

        The Church of Scientology, as you refer to it, is as much a religion as the Flat Earth Society. It requires you to believe in a race from another planet. Which is exactly my point – zionism has as much credibility. Using such surreal axioms doesn’t, in my view, give you a licence to dispossess and cruelly displace other people, maintaining that control with extreme violence. Silly me, I thought religions were about ethics and behaviour – clearly not in zionism’s case, and another strike against its pretensions to be a religion. The privileges zionism demands are derived from this fantasy, there is no basis in the real world for privileging one group of people over others, or granting them exclusive rights to the enormous detriment of others, fomenting violence and war. Zionism, like scientology, is a pseudo-religion, a cult like the Moonies. Established religions are not political, nationalist, ethno-supremacist ideologies.

      • talknic
        talknic on April 2, 2014, 7:19 am

        JeffB “Judaism is the religion of the Israeli state and the Israeli nation”

        Care to point that out in the Declaration …. thx … I’ll wait http://talknic.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/waiting_for_the_israeli_propagandist.gif

        Accordingly we, members of the People’s Council, representatives of the Jewish Community of Eretz-Israel and of the Zionist Movement, are here assembled on the day of the termination of the British Mandate over Eretz-Israel and, by virtue of our natural and historic right and on the strength of the resolution of the United Nations General Assembly, hereby declare the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel.

        We declare that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948, the People’s Council shall act as a Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People’s Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be called “Israel.”

        The State of Israel will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

        The State of Israel is prepared to cooperate with the agencies and representatives of the United Nations in implementing the resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947, and will take steps to bring about the economic union of the whole of Eretz-Israel.

        We appeal to the United Nations to assist the Jewish people in the building-up of its State and to receive the State of Israel into the community of nations.

        We appeal – in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months – to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

        We extend our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.

        We appeal to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream – the redemption of Israel.

        Placing our trust in the Almighty, we affix our signatures to this proclamation at this session of the provisional Council of State, on the soil of the Homeland, in the city of Tel-Aviv, on this Sabbath eve, the 5th day of Iyar, 5708 (14th May, 1948).

        “Zionism was a secular form of Judaism”

        A secular religion. AMAZING!!

      • JeffB
        JeffB on April 2, 2014, 8:34 am

        @talknic

        Israel is a living breathing state of a living nation. That nation resolves cultural issues and change’s its opinions. One of the opinions it has shifted on is its attitude towards Judaism. Judaism has changed in response to Israel and Israel has changed in its relationship with Judaism.

      • Cliff
        Cliff on April 2, 2014, 8:57 am

        @JeffB

        Nope, Judaism hasn’t changed.

        But thanks for proving that Zionism is antisemitic.

      • eljay
        eljay on April 2, 2014, 9:07 am

        >> Israel is a living breathing state of a living nation.

        Presumably, you mean “the Jewish nation”. IOW, Israel is a supremacist “Jewish State”. Pity. What it should be is the secular and democratic state of and for all its Israeli citizens, equally.

        >> That nation resolves cultural issues and change’s its opinions. One of the opinions it has shifted on is its attitude towards Judaism. Judaism has changed in response to Israel and Israel has changed in its relationship with Judaism.

        How has Judaism – the religion – changed? What has the “Jewish nation” added to and/or removed from Judaism? Who decided which changes were permissible and which changes were not?

      • talknic
        talknic on April 2, 2014, 9:18 am

        JeffB “Israel is a living breathing state of a living nation”
        … living illegally beyond its borders in other folks territory.

        ” That nation resolves cultural issues and change’s its opinions”
        … except for its continual coveting and stealing other folks territory while dispossessing and slaughtering them to do it as it continues to lie to its own people and sell them land in non-Israeli territory, breaking International Law, the UN Charter and relevant conventions.

        “Judaism has changed in response to Israel”
        … strange, the text is the same and it forbids lying, stealing, coveting other folks property

        “and Israel has changed in its relationship with Judaism”
        … indeed, breaking Judaism’s basic tenets. Nothing to be proud of.

      • libra
        libra on April 3, 2014, 3:42 pm

        JeffB: Israel is a living breathing state of a living nation.

        Methinks Jeff drives a Volkswagen. Professor Ellis would be horrified.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976 on April 2, 2014, 9:40 am

        If ‘secular’ means ‘concerned with the things of this world’ and ‘religion’ means ‘concerned with things beyond this world’ then secular ideas can, I suppose, claim reason and authority, over and above what they have in secular terms, from religious ones – as with the Crusaders’ ‘God wills it!’. So religions can have secular elements or aspects and most do. But religious ideas can add authority, beyond what secular ideas have in themselves, only if they are in themselves not entirely secular. So religions can’t take entirely secular forms.

      • LeaNder
        LeaNder on April 2, 2014, 10:12 am

        “Zionism was a secular form of Judaism”
        A secular religion. AMAZING!!

        No, it is not really amazing. It may have been more obviously a secular form of religion, or a culture based on shared religion, than other approaches. I would even argue that (theoretical) communism is ultimately a secularization of religious thought. ;) But that may be me.

        Obviously there is a strong nexus between religion – culture – and politics.

        David Ohana: Political Theology in the Holy Land. Ohana looks into the founding myths with this method.

        political theology
        Wikipedia entry: Political theology

        Consider: Karl Schmidt, and political theology. Wikipedia:

        I admittedly liked Jacob Taube’s: The political theology of Paul. Here a recent take on it. Not sure if I can link to it, in any case it see p. 250f.

        Thus last but not least a summary of Talal Asad’s Formation of the Secular: Christianity, Islam, Modernity. Or some of his central theses:

        What dynamics are involved in excluding “the other” in our secular cultural context”? How can “the other” be defined, and actually is thus defined by Islamophobes? Do they worry about distinctions between religion, culture, politics? I do not have that impression.

      • talknic
        talknic on April 3, 2014, 11:12 am

        @ LeaNder

        “Obviously there is a strong nexus between religion – culture – and politics”

        All three must have a place to exist. Where else do they occur other than amongst groups of people?

        A strong sense of common belief is essential in keeping groups of people together and; when the sh*t is hitting the fan while the tribe is lost in the desert under one’s leadership, one best come up with something rather awe inspiring that binds and gives the majority hope and faith.

        Circumstance and tribal leaders change. If, unlike some https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Jonestown , the notions they planted gave people hope in adversity, they’ll likely live on despite being bullsh*t and; despite G-d being obviously AWOL during things like the Holocaust

        Cultures on the other hand develop and change over generations of living under particular circumstances. Many 3rd generation Chinese Australians no longer speak Mandarin, have ‘strine’ accents, follow Home and Away, don’t use chopsticks when eating a hamburger or pizza

        One can adhere to a set of basic tenets commonly developed and refined long before being codified and reflected in, amongst other religions Judaism. They’re a common sense guide on how to avoid getting smacked in the face or ostracized because you’re a jerk.

      • Keith
        Keith on April 2, 2014, 6:12 pm

        TALKNIC- “Zionism was a secular form of Judaism” A secular religion. AMAZING!!”

        While all ideologies are not religions, all religions are ideologies. They are distinguished from other ideologies by the use of a god-head(s), and by a mythology rooted in the metaphysical. Some ideologies, however, seem to give a metaphysical interpretation to secular phenomenon. I believe that Zionism is one. Israel is heaven, the Holocaust hell, and anti-Semitism a dark, irrational satanic force. This is combined with a secular use of Judaic symbolism to create a unifying mythos quite removed from reality and taken on faith. Ultimately, secular religions tend to be unsuccessful in interpreting physical reality in metaphysical terms, hence, short lived. They last only so long as they appear successful in explaining and controlling events.

    • Walid
      Walid on April 2, 2014, 2:23 am

      “The conclusion we should take away from all of this naval contemplation and Zionist self-worship …”

      Israel after all is the navel of the world. The Bible say so and in more than one instance.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976 on April 2, 2014, 8:56 am

        If I lay in a bath with a fleet of toy boats I could achieve navel and naval contemplation at the same time.

      • Taxi
        Taxi on April 2, 2014, 9:20 am

        Dig where you’re coming from, MHughes.

    • Mikhael
      Mikhael on April 2, 2014, 11:14 am

      Cliff says:
      April 1, 2014 at 8:41 pm
      ‘J Date: Get Chosen’
      LOL
      I remember when Shlomo Sand was touring the UK and US for his book. The same Zionist hack gave him an earful about his interpretation of the notion of ‘Chosenness’.
      Multiple times, this deranged Zionist said Sand was antisemitic because he implied ‘Chosenness’ was seen by Jews as an entitlement or something. Rather than whatever it supposedly ‘really’ is (a ‘responsibility’?).

      That’s exactly what the concept of chosenness means in Jewish theology, that the Deity chose the Jews were to observe the miswoth–613 commandments–stuff like the dietary laws and keeping the Sabbath in all its complexity. This is a concept that religious Jews believe in, including the vehemently anti-Zionist Neturei Karta, and that non-religious people, including secular Zionists–do not care about. So religious Jews (whether Zionist or anti-Zionist) believe that they were “chosen” to observe these complicated rituals while non-religious Jews (including secular Zionists like yours truly) don’t care. But the people who obsess about the Jews’ supposed election are freaks like you.

      • American
        American on April 3, 2014, 12:24 pm

        @ Mikhael

        Any kind of ‘chosenness’ is a problem. An unfortunate part of Judaism.
        Because to call yourself chosen for any reason, good or bad, makes you think you are just that—-uniquely chosen —that you stand out from all others.
        Doesn’t matter if you think you were chosen to ‘follow’ or ‘instruct on’ or ‘live by’ some supreme being’s rules.
        To believe ‘your God’ favors and or chose Jews over all other humans for *whatever purpose* leads to all kinds of faulty thinking.

      • Taxi
        Taxi on April 3, 2014, 3:39 pm

        “To believe ‘your God’ favors and or chose Jews over all other humans for *whatever purpose* leads to all kinds of faulty thinking.”

        Not to mention resentments.

        (No it’s not an antisemetic, it’s human nature to resent those who declare themselves above you, regardless of their religion).

  2. piotr
    piotr on April 1, 2014, 8:44 pm

    As a fan of Cruella DeVil, I beg to differ. Definitely sexy.

  3. Ellen
    Ellen on April 1, 2014, 8:51 pm

    Pathetic. “One hump or two. …Remember the family. ”

    Geesh, some of us want to forget our relatives.

  4. Rusty Pipes
    Rusty Pipes on April 1, 2014, 9:31 pm

    JDate and JNF’s ends intersect when they promote a hump in Israel. Like Birthright, the trip’s selling point is hooking up in Israel. The only question is whether JDate is planning for the humping to happen in a fantasy Bedouin tent or if they are planning a more comfortable setting for the over 30 crowd? The JNF can supply the other fantasy and hump when the tour takes them to the site of their prospective dream home in the Negev, where real Bedouins (with or without camels)are having their real tents demolished to make way for the JNF’s planned communities. Is stealing someone else’s land a moral hump these visitors must struggle to surmount or can they be swept away by the romance of it all?

  5. seafoid
    seafoid on April 1, 2014, 10:03 pm

    A geopolitical joke
    Inspired by
    http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/kahn/archives/vp72.htm

    This farmer was a simple but G’d-fearing person, living on the plains of the Crimea. One day he came home to his wife and told her that the Rabbi had said that soon Mashiach would come and take them all to the land of Israel. “This is terrible”, said his wife. “Don’t we have enough problems already? Who is going to tend to our chickens and look after our geese? And what about the awful sexism ? You better go straight back to the Rabbi and tell him that we can have no part in this. It will be a real disaster. Especially for our daughters” . When the husband returned to the Rabbi with his wife’s message, he told the farmer to go home and tell his wife that any day the Cossacks could come and plunder their farm and steal all their fowl. Obviously, they would be much better off when Mashiach will come and take them to the land of Israel. After the farmer related the Rabbi’s response to his wife, she contemplated what he had said and understood that he had a valid point. Suddenly, she exclaimed, “I have a perfect solution. Let Mashiach come and take the Cossacks to the land of Israel and everything will be fine.”

    • wondering jew
      wondering jew on April 1, 2014, 11:24 pm

      seafoid- Wow! Your reading is far and wide. Do you read all the Jewish web sites or how did you come across this? Did you google Maschiach? Really, how did you find this? I like the way you changed plains of Russia to the plains of Crimea.

      • seafoid
        seafoid on April 1, 2014, 11:28 pm

        There was a shorter joke from Moshiach.com here
        http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/.premium-1.582663

        I thought it was hilarious – that diaspora humour and the Crimea and the Cossacks and everything

      • Walid
        Walid on April 2, 2014, 12:37 am

        Not to disappoint Yonah, he surely remembers from 4 years ago the Israeli ad in the Canadian press luring young Jews in Toronto with oral sex to promote Israeli tourism. Now they have taken it one level higher with the humping. Richard Silverstein wrote about it at the time but the offensive video was removed:

        “Canadian Jewish Tourism Ad Uses Oral Sex to Promote Israeli Tourism
        by RICHARD SILVERSTEIN on FEBRUARY 21, 2010

        … Dimi Reider has discovered one of the stranger of Israel’s tourism promotions. This one is sponsored by the Canadian Council for Israel and Jewish Advocacy (CIJA) undoubtedly in close collaboration with the foreign ministry. The video is in indescribably bad taste, portraying an attractive couple in bed with the woman telling the man she can’t possibly “do it” because it’s “too small.” The dialogue is so lame that it simply must be quoted to be believed:

        Girl: Uhhh…
        Boy: What?
        G: Don’t be mad…It’s just that it’s small…
        B: Small?!
        G: I don’t know if I can go there.
        B: I consider this a spot of worship. It may be small, but it’s brought the driest places to life. Baby, this is paradise. [camera pans to show map of Israel and tourist guidebooks covering boy’s crotch].
        G: OK, but if I go down there for you, you have to promise you’ll down south for me next winter.

        I’m simply flabbergasted that Israel would use the promise of fellatio and cunnilingus to promote itself. This also puts into proper perspective the blandishments of Birthright Israel and its former premier trip vendor, Shlomo Momo, who hold out to trip participants the possibility of great Jewish sex and meeting potential Jewish mates on their trips…”

        http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/02/21/canadian-jewish-tourism-ad-uses-oral-sex-to-promote-israeli-tourism/

      • Walid
        Walid on April 2, 2014, 12:57 am

        Israelis just won’t quit with the se ads; again at it last year in Canada.

        Article that appeared in the very Jewish, “National Post”; that video too was removed by YouTube:

        “‘Ultimate trivialization of the Zionist dream’: Rabbis say sexy tourism ads for Tel Aviv ‘disgusting’
        Joseph Brean | June 18, 2013 5:45 PM ET

        Ad using group sex to promote Tel Aviv called ‘disgusting’

        … Reaction from Canadian rabbis to the new online ad from CIJA’s “Size Doesn’t Matter” campaign has “ranged from confusion and derision to disgust,” with some denouncing the “shockingly poor taste,” according to the Jewish Tribune.

        “You don’t want people coming to Israel for sex and that’s almost what it’s suggesting. It’s the ultimate trivialization of the Zionist dream and bordering on the extremely offensive,” said Rabbi Philip Scheim of the Beth David B’nai Israel Beth Am Synagogue in Toronto, calling it “soft porn” and “very poor use of communal funds,” according to the newspaper.

        “Canadians would be up in arms if there was a similar advertising campaign for Montreal or Toronto,” said Rabbi Chaim Steinmetz of Montreal’s Congregation Tifereth Beth David Jerusalem.

        … In the 33-second ad, a muscular man wearing only underwear is seen from the back in a plush ocean-front room, as he walks out onto a sunny patio. An exterior shot reveals it as the Alexander, the boutique hotel in Tel Aviv known for its presidential suite.

        Back inside, we see only the man’s feet as he drops his shorts and gets in a shower. The camera lingers over his front as he soaps up, then returns to his feet. A woman’s feet appear, with red nail polish, to the sound of a satisfied “Mmmm.” Then another man’s feet appear behind the woman’s, to more “Mmmm” and the hint of a giggle.

        “Tel Aviv…” says the closing caption. “There’s room for everyone.”

        The ad has been viewed more than 70,000 times in its first week…”

        http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/18/ultimate-trivialization-of-the-zionist-dream-rabbis-say-sexy-tourism-ads-for-tel-aviv-disgusting/

        Pssssst: For those that missed it in 2010, or were still too young back then, the “Size Doesn’t Matter “video is at the end of the National Post article.

      • pabelmont
        pabelmont on April 2, 2014, 7:59 am

        I’m no expert and way too old (beyond 3 score and ten) to know what’s today thought to be in “good taste”. For all I know, all these sex ads are in perfect taste for the crowd they’re aimed at. And, again, perhaps young “Jews” are not the same — taste-wise — as young Quakers or young Catholics; or as (other) young atheists. (Or maybe they are!)

        These jokes (or whatever they are) remind me of the very crude humor of the “humor” magazine published at my mostly-boys-then alma mater in my freshman year in the 1950s.

        So maybe Israel — which maintains a large standing army of very crude toughs — is aiming for army recruitment at EXACTLY the right folks!

      • James North
        James North on April 2, 2014, 8:34 am

        Yonah: But what do you think about the Jewish National Fund’s ad, which is after all the subject of this post?

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew on April 2, 2014, 11:35 pm

        James North- I think it is shlocky. A sign of the times. Not a sign of the apocalypse.

        So now you have my comment about the post. And why do I have to comment about it? Am I not allowed to comment about something that seafoid said and not react to the earth shattering post? The JNF uses the word hump in an ad and it needs my comment. Hardly.

    • Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield on April 2, 2014, 6:50 am

      The terrain in Crimea is hilly. Where are the plains?

  6. Krauss
    Krauss on April 1, 2014, 10:38 pm

    I think the ad is directed towards young men.

    It’s well-known that young women are much more community-oriented for the large part. If you look in your own family, the people who organize family get-togetheres are almost always women. Women are also more likely to get engaged in Chuch/Synagogue/other religious institution.

    They are even less likely to interracially marry, with the sole exception of Asian women. In every other racial group, women are more racially conservative in terms of spousal selection. Among Jews, men are much more likely to indicate an interest in non-white women. OkCupid showed this back in 2009(when they were still independent) that among religious groups, Jewish men were far more willing to date not only non-Jewish women, but also non-white women. The biggest differences lay in dating preferences of muslim Arabs. Jewish men were much more likely to date a pretty Arabic girl than a Jewish woman was likely to date an Arab man.

    And what do men in their early 20s think about? Not so much about relationships, but more about humping. And if you want to draw them in, this is where you have to go. It will be a “gateway drug” to Zionism. Sex first, the rest later.

    Is it going to work? Well, a free trip promising sex. Not a lot of young guys are going to say no if thats what offered and Birthright is notoriously selective in what it shows to young Jews once they are in Israel. Any contact with Palestinians is made with pre-approved people whose salary and livelihood depends on telling young Jews exactly what they want to hear, or else their Zionist minders fire them and give trouble to their families.

    • Krauss
      Krauss on April 2, 2014, 1:38 am

      Unrelated but important.

      and this is one of the greatest dangers the state is facing. It’s the biggest threat to Israel’s existence – more than Iran, more than anything. We can’t imagine a world without AIPAC, without the Jewish lobby and the lobbies defending Israel’s interests in the American administration – but this is all growing weaker and weaker.

      My bold. The quote is from Jay Ruderman, who was born in America and has interests in America. He is all about lobbying about America but he actually lives in Israel.

      Yet we are:

      A) Supposed to pretend that dual loyalty isn’t an issue and in fact anti-Semitic?
      B) Not allowed to use the term “Jewish lobby” yet here Ruderman is doing it, openly.

      More here: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4505598,00.html

    • RoHa
      RoHa on April 2, 2014, 4:44 am

      “They [women] are even less likely to interracially marry,”

      So that’s why most interracial marriages are gay marriages!

    • William Burns
      William Burns on April 2, 2014, 5:37 am

      Israel: for people who have to go halfway around the world to get laid.

    • libra
      libra on April 3, 2014, 5:23 pm

      Krauss: And what do men in their early 20s think about? Not so much about relationships, but more about humping.

      So Krauss, if the women aren’t interested who are these men humping? Something here doesn’t seem to add up, unless the ad is meant to be taken literally.

  7. JeffB
    JeffB on April 1, 2014, 11:00 pm

    What would your old aunt say who gets the paper? It’s against common decency. And that’s the “spirit” of Israel– humping?
    The Jewish National Fund has to sell sex because the virtues of that place don’t stand on their own.
    Legal discrimination, not sexy.
    Ethnic cleansing, not sexy.
    Brute force and violence, not sexy.

    Yeah its not like my aunt would have heard slogans like “Virginia is for lovers”, an “Enchanted Evening in Italy”, or France’s whole romantic culture dripping with sex. Israel is about more than the Palestinians. Israel may be a flawed society but it has wonderful features and being a great romantic destination for JDate’s clients is one of them. Same as Taglit-Birthright is a good place for hookups and the start of relationships though aiming 30-45 this is people looking to marry. Anyway Jews aren’t prudes, and moreover the Jewish community has always supported matchmaking. They understand when they put horny young people together of the opposite sex the goal is not that their bridge skill improve. Judaism has mostly always been mildly pro-sex and Zionism similarly.

    Finally of course violence is sexy! Violence and exposure to violence increases sexual response in both males and especially females. That’s been well known for years and heavily documented. Frankly it is the reason whole genres of movies of television. For that matter look at the amount of violence in women’s romances the male leads prove themselves as mating material through violence. We don’t live on planet liberal. Humans really are just talking apes.

    • justicewillprevail
      justicewillprevail on April 2, 2014, 9:16 am

      You can’t open your mouth without putting your rather large foot in it, can you Jeff? I guess you are trying to say that your kind of Judaism is paranoid about people marrying outside of the narrow confines of your ideology and thus promotes these cheesy, panting teen lust ads, which just betray a kind of witless desperation. As for your point about violence, if you can’t see how tasteless that is, in conjunction with the violence that Israel is founded on and maintains, then you are beyond the pale. Maybe you could incorporate your great insights into some new ads for teens: come to Israel, watch the IDF drop some sexy bombs on civilians in Gaza, witness the arrests of children in the night, the harassment of people trying to go to work or college, a house demolition. Get those hormones jumping. Ugh. Talking apes? Are you trying to illustrate your thesis here? Well, speak for yourself.

      • JeffB
        JeffB on April 2, 2014, 11:26 am

        @justicewillprevail

        I guess you are trying to say that your kind of Judaism is paranoid about people marrying outside of the narrow confines of your ideology and thus promotes these cheesy, panting teen lust ads, which just betray a kind of witless desperation.

        All nations use sex to carry their identity to the next generation. That’s part of what makes a nation different from a hobby. Nations aim to last for hundreds not thousands of years and that means they need to be passed down through families. Call that desperation if you wish, but it is ultimately the thing that most matters. The first imperative of life is survival, nations that can’t pass down their beliefs are no more.

        As for your point about violence, if you can’t see how tasteless that is, in conjunction with the violence that Israel is founded on and maintains, then you are beyond the pale.

        I have always failed to understand why your side keeps trying to put morality into fact. There are statements about things you like or dislike and there are statements about things that are true or false. The two have little to do with one another. Humans are what humans are.

        Getting deeper. You can’t photosynthesize. As you were reading my post you were sucking oxygen into your lungs. That oxygen is a highly volatile gas whose useful property for you your ability to get energy:
        C6H12O6 + 6 O2 → 6 CO2 + 6 H2O + 2880 kJ·mol−1

        You can’t make sugar (C6H12O6) to get it you have to kill. Quite literally for you to be alive is to breathe and to be breathe is to kill. That is what you, that is why you are. Your DNA made it to today not because of anything other than a trillion generations of winning battles. We are writing in English because ultimately the Brythonic peoples lost to the old English speaking peoples. Virtually everything about you taken far enough back is a product of violence. So no I’m not speaking for myself, I’m speaking for you too. You have no choice in what you are. Pretend piety won’t change that.

        Israel is the end of enslavement of the Jews. I casually wish good things for the people of Gaza, if they are willing to stop their senseless war. The people of Gaza still have the opportunity to decide if they want to part of Israel, choose any number of alternatives or act in a way that gets them bombed. They are moral agents and I respect their autonomy. But that doesn’t stop me from glorying in Israel’s vitality and that includes sexual vitality. I’m going to have a burger in about 20 minutes. That cow doesn’t deserve life any less than me, he just lost the battle of species.

    • kalithea
      kalithea on April 2, 2014, 11:08 am

      Finally of course violence is sexy!

      In the context discussed here daily; I’m sure your view was held by many…in circa 1940s Germany.

  8. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich on April 2, 2014, 2:37 am

    And I thought ‘Carlifornication’ was a bad choice…

    Apparently you need to have balls to come up with an ad like that?

    • kalithea
      kalithea on April 2, 2014, 11:12 am

      Apparently you need to have balls to come up with an ad like that?

      Nope. You need to have your brain located next to them.

  9. bilal a
    bilal a on April 2, 2014, 6:34 am

    This is part and parcel of the culture of Mel Brooks Kaminski and Sarah Silverman, its not Jewish, rather the antinomian messianic rebellion which morphed into Zionism:

    Thus the ritual violation of halakhic prohibitions presented an equal opportunity for women to engage fully in what was viewed by the sectarians as positive religious activism. Moreover, they could even exceed the men’s capacity for such subversive acts of “restoration,” since the Sabbateans’ favoured mode of tikkun was the infringement specifically of those halakhic prohibitions that curtailed the proclivities of the body, most notably the consumption of forbidden foods, or the consumption of food at forbidden times, and above all the violation of the laws of incest. The domain of the body—the effective Sabbatean arena for “restorative” action—had long been associated with women, in line with the dualistic scheme, adopted by medieval philosophers and kabbalists alike, that juxtaposed the female domain of “body” with the male domain of “spirit” or “soul.” The body and its appetites, especially its sexuality, were viewed as the natural environment of the female, whose very creation as a distinct being signalled sexual tension. In this environment women were free not only to act but also to activate men’s sensual urges. It is not surprising, therefore, that they were often able to take charge of the heretical enterprise of “restoration,” which had shifted them from the periphery to the center stage of religious action. …

    “The evidence he collected from repenting Sabbateans who confessed before the rabbinical court of Satanov in the summer of 1757 suggests that Haya Schor exerted a great deal of power in the Sabbatean circles of her day. She initiated new recruits to the sectarian fellowship, not hesitating to pronounce some candidates unfit and to withhold her sexual favours from them if she judged them to be insufficiently proficient in the doctrines of the sect or if they exhibited reluctance to consume the prohibited fat of an animal—an antinomian act by which she tested the measure of their sectarian allegiance. She acted quite independently of her husband, at times defying his authority even if, as was customary among the Sabbateans, he was eager to sanction her adulterous acts, viewed within the sect as positive commandments, “mending” or “restoring” the redeemed world to its final state of perfection. ”

    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/sabbateanism

    Thus what was once sin ( usury, gaming, adultery, murder of innocents, etc) becomes a religious rite of worship.

    • Taxi
      Taxi on April 2, 2014, 9:08 am

      Ah yes, bilal, the “Sabbateans”: are the european disciples of Rabbi Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676) who converted to islam during the height of his popularity as a jewish Rabbi, thereby devastating his followers and other jews all over the world.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbateans

  10. Taxi
    Taxi on April 2, 2014, 8:17 am

    Wow what a cult.

    • seafoid
      seafoid on April 2, 2014, 10:00 am

      The main thing about being a Zionist is that you don’t think.
      Shooting, crying and f$cking are fine but thinking is not kosher lemehadrin.

      • Taxi
        Taxi on April 5, 2014, 5:36 am

        I mean a cult like Bhagwan Shri Rajneesh – his ashram with it’s sex rooms and violence rooms – to attract the youngens.

  11. hophmi
    hophmi on April 2, 2014, 8:27 am

    It must be a good ad if the two of you are going out your way to be prudish.

  12. Kay24
    Kay24 on April 2, 2014, 8:32 am

    We should not be surprised. Israel has been condemned many times for it’s history of organ trafficking, and human trafficking, by international organizations.
    There is something seedy in that land of Israel. They have a record of breaking international laws, and it is not only their brutal occupation, human rights violations, and land grabs, but some nefarious activities too. The “only” democracy in the Middle East, and the “best” ally the US can buy, is up to it’s neck in all sorts of devious crime.

    • hophmi
      hophmi on April 2, 2014, 10:38 am

      “Israel has been condemned many times for it’s history of organ trafficking, and human trafficking, by international organizations.”

      As far as I can tell, Israel has never been condemned by any human rights organization for human trafficking or organ trafficking. The State Department has talking about human trafficking in the Israel country report, but that’s hardly a problem confined to Israel.

      According to the 2012 3P index, which measures enforcement of human trafficking laws, Israel received a score of 12 points, one below the US score of 13, in the same rank as France, Greece, Iceland, and Portugal, and ahead of Denmark, Luxembourg, and every other state in the Middle East. Tied for the worst score are Iran, Syria, and Libya. So, contrary to your claim, Israel is, as far as anti-human trafficking efforts go, in the first-tier. So I’d say the only seedy thing here is your ignorance.

      http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/md/awi/humantrafficking/country_ranking_2012.xls

      • seafoid
        seafoid on April 2, 2014, 11:00 am

        Hoph

        Organ trafficking is a problem in Israel because of religious objections to the process within Israel. So you get organs being supplied outside Israel, usually by people from poor countries, to meet natural demand that is not met in Israel due to rabbinical influence.

        It is very distasteful and has nothing to do with Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. More to do with Judaism and modernity.

      • hophmi
        hophmi on April 2, 2014, 11:12 am

        You’re out of date. There’s been a strong anti-organ trafficking law in Israel since 2008. Moreover, Israel is hardly the only country with a transplant tourism problem. Many wealthy countries have the same problem.

        In terms of Judaism, organ donation used to be more controversial, and you’re correct that for this reason, consent rates in Israel were low, but it has improved markedly since 2008.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/18/israel-s-campaign-to-halt-organ-trafficking-tourism.html

      • seafoid
        seafoid on April 2, 2014, 3:10 pm
      • amigo
        amigo on April 2, 2014, 11:19 am

        “As far as I can tell, Israel has never been condemned by any human rights organization for human trafficking or organ trafficking.” hopknee

        Maybe that,s because they , (HRO) are too busy dealing with Israel,s hundreds, correction, thousands of Human Rights abuses.

        Not to mention Ethnic cleansing and child torture and collective punishment and extra Judicial Killings and land theft and use of illegal chemicals (WP) just to mention a few of Israel notable achievements in the field of Human endeavor.

      • American
        American on April 2, 2014, 12:08 pm

        http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_human_organ_harvesting
        Jewish human organ harvesting

        Jewish human organ harvesting was revealed by Swedish freelance journalist Donald Bostrom when he began to investigate United Nations employees concerns that soldiers snatch Palestinian children in the middle of the night, murder them, and sell their organs.[1] Bostrom ran the story in Aftonbladet, Sweden’s leading tabloid newspaper.[2] The translated headline of the article read “They plunder the organs of our sons”.[3]

        In his investigation Bostrom was able to document the case of Bilal Ahmed Ghanem, a 19-year-old Palestinian man who was murdered by Israeli soldiers in 1992 in the West Bank village of Imatin. Bostrom was an eyewitness to the Israeli raid into the village.[4]
        When the Israeli soldiers enter the village, they targeted Ghanem at the gate of his family’s home and called his name “Bilal, Bilal.” He turned around and was shot dead.[5] Instead of allowing his body to be recovered by his family, the Israelis immediately abducted his corpse using an ambulance and a military helicopter which were staged and ready to transport the young man’s body to the hospital.[6] A week later his body was returned to his family with with an incision from his neck to his stomach suggesting his organs had been taken.[7]
        His brother Jalal Ghanem said, “It was very clear that there was no abdomen, it showed from the way it was stitched. There were no teeth in his mouth.”[8]

        Other Palestinian men were being abducted by the Israelis that year which also coincided with a shortage of organs for transplant in Israel. In his article Bostrom wrote, “At the same time that this organ campaign was going on, young Palestinian men were disappearing and being delivered back to their villages five days later at night, dead and cut open.”[9]

        Israeli outrage
        Israel has expressed outrage over the exposure from the article. Dozens of public officials and commentators in the Jewish state have declared the article to be anti-Semitic and a modern form of ‘blood libel’ reminding the public of charges of ritual murder from the Middle Ages.[10]
        Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister declared, “We are not expecting an apology from the Swedish government… We are expecting condemnation.”
        The Government of Sweden has refused to apologize or condemn the article saying the country has press freedom.

        Israel admits to organ thefts

        Harvested organs were alleged to have been used by the military and in public hospitals. Israel has admitted that it harvested organs from the dead bodies of Palestinians and Israelis in the 1990s, without permission from their families. The admission follows the release of an interview with Jehuda Hiss, the former head of Israel’s forensic institute, in which he said that workers at the institute had harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from Israelis, Palestinians and foreign workers.

        In the US, for rabbis, it’s just business

        In July 2009 the FBI conducted raids involving money laundering and bribery arresting forty-four persons including five rabbis.[13] The human organ trafficking ring was uncovered in part of the investigation. One of the rabbis arrested said he had been in the human organ business for ten years. “His business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 which he would turn around and sell for $160,000”

        Its not ‘blood libel’ if its true. And Israelis have a far reaching human organ trafficking ring all over the world.

        Israeli Organ Trafficking Ring Broken Up – Tablet Magazine
        http://www.tabletmag.com/…/israeli-organ-trafficking-ring-br…‎
        Tablet Magazine
        Jun 21, 2013 – Haaretz reports that an Israeli organ trafficking ring was uncovered in Costa Rica. On… …

        Israeli Organ Trafficking and Theft: From Moldova to Palestine
        ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/aw-organs2.html‎
        If Americans Knew
        As Scheper-Hughes describes it, organ trafficking consists of “paying the … “the percentage of organs donated among Jews is the lowest of all the ethnic groups. …. ring centered in Israel, is the first case of trafficking to be prosecuted in the US

        Israeli man convicted of organ trafficking in N.J. | Jewish Telegraphic …
        http://www.jta.org/…/united-states/israeli-man-conv…‎
        Jewish Telegraphic Agency
        Oct 30, 2011 – … person to be convicted of illegal organ trafficking in the United States since … Some 40 other people, mostly rabbis and politicians from New …

        The Rosenbaum Kidney Trafficking Gang » CounterPunch: Tells the …
        http://www.counterpunch.org/…/the-rosenbaum-kidney-trafficki…‎
        CounterPunch
        Nov 30, 2011 – Some of the victims of US organs trafficking are bonded servants … a deputy mayor, 2 state legislators, 5 Orthodox Rabbis, a stripper or two, …

        Traffickers Targeting Haiti’s Children, Human Organs, PM Says …
        http://www.intifada-palestine.com/…/prime-minister-of-haiti-confirms-trafficki…‎
        Jan 29, 2010 –
        The Prime Minister of Haiti confirmed the trafficking of children and human … children by the USA “Organ Mafia” that operates along the US/Mexico border in … Last year the FBI arrested 6 rabbis for trafficking in human organs …

        Interpol hunts two Israelis for Kosovo organ trafficking Israel News …
        http://www.haaretz.com/…/interpol-hunts-two-israelis-for-kosovo-orga…‎
        Haaretz
        Nov 12, 2010 – Like us on Facebook and get articles directly in your news feed ….

  13. Taxi
    Taxi on April 2, 2014, 9:16 am

    Two humps? Might have to go to Central Asia for that one!
    “The two surviving species of camel are the dromedary, or one-humped camel which inhabits the Middle East and the Horn of Africa; and the bactrian, or two-humped camel, which inhabits Central Asia.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel

    Map of central Asia:
    https://www.google.com.lb/maps/@45.285372,66.9045435,5z

  14. kalithea
    kalithea on April 2, 2014, 10:51 am

    Was it created by Shmuley Boteach?

    Allow me to embellish JNF’s humping invitation:

    Welcome to Zioland, the center of global depravity, where humping is the kind of spirit Israel wants you to experience, and if 1 and 2 humps doesn’t satiate you, then why not catch the Palestinians be persecuted in the concrete wall-enclosed Ziocolosseum called the OT, plenty of action there!, and finally don’t forget to finish off the week with a deep, soulful hypocrisy immersion: victim role-playing at yet another memorial museum and above all, be seen wailing by the ruins in Jerusalem.

  15. JeffB
    JeffB on April 2, 2014, 11:55 am

    @eljay

    >> Israel is a living breathing state of a living nation.

    Presumably, you mean “the Jewish nation”. IOW, Israel is a supremacist “Jewish State”. Pity. What it should be is the secular and democratic state of and for all its Israeli citizens, equally.

    It will be. But I agree it is a pity the Palestinians are dragging the process out, won’t become Israeli and allow that to happen less traumatically.

    JeffB: That nation resolves cultural issues and change’s its opinions. One of the opinions it has shifted on is its attitude towards Judaism. Judaism has changed in response to Israel and Israel has changed in its relationship with Judaism.

    Eljay: How has Judaism – the religion – changed? What has the “Jewish nation” added to and/or removed from Judaism?

    Judaism had as one of its core idea the notion of a divine redemption where the exiles gather again in Zion under the messiah it is one of the Ani Ma’amin. Well that’s happened now though not quite the way the Jewish religion anticipated. And as a result the religion has had to mutate. Moreover in a deeper sense Rabbinic Judaism was a religion of despair and defeat. The Jews are now restored and that religion no longer fits.

    So for example the Pittsburg Platform (Reform Judaism) used to have explicitly anti-Zionist language:
    We recognize, in the modern era of universal culture of heart and intellect, the approaching of the realization of Israel s great Messianic hope for the establishment of the kingdom of truth, justice, and peace among all men. We consider ourselves no longer a nation, but a religious community, and therefore expect neither a return to Palestine, nor a sacrificial worship under the sons of Aaron, nor the restoration of any of the laws concerning the Jewish state.

    and by 1937 that had changed to a Zionist religious position:
    Judaism is the soul of which Israel is the body… In all lands where our people live, they assume and seek to share loyally the full duties and responsibilities of citizenship and to create seats of Jewish knowledge and religion. In the rehabilitation of Palestine, the land hallowed by memories and hopes, we behold the promise of renewed life for many of our brethren. We affirm the obligation of all Jewry to aid in its upbuilding as a Jewish homeland by endeavoring to make it not only a haven of refuge for the oppressed but also a center of Jewish culture and spiritual life. Throughout the ages it has been Israel’s mission to witness to the Divine in the face of every form of paganism and materialism. We regard it as our historic task to cooperate with all men in the establishment of the kingdom of God, of universal brotherhood, Justice, truth and peace on earth. This is our Messianic goal.

    Who decided which changes were permissible and which changes were not?

    The Jewish people via massive supermajorities bordering on consensus.

  16. German Lefty
    German Lefty on April 2, 2014, 12:10 pm

    One hump or two?
    JDate.com – Get Chosen

    Actually, I find the puns pretty funny. The problem is the double standard. Jewish Zionists shout “anti-Semitism” whenever non-Jews use similar puns. They would accuse us of ridiculing Israel (“hump”) and Judaism (“chosen”).

    The Jewish National Fund has to sell sex because the virtues of that place don’t stand on their own.
    So true!

    What would your old aunt say who gets the paper? It’s against common decency.
    Oh, please! Don’t be more papal than the pope. Besides, old people enjoy sex, too.

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